USMC ILBE Pack Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- The USMC ILBE pack Is an amazing design that has an equally amazing story. In addition to a very detailed review and demonstration, I will share the unusual history of the ILBE.
Further Viewing
If you are interested in viewing additional videos about this amazing pack, PLEASE Visit Renaissance Marine's TH-cam Channel. During my video, due to my lack of actual training with the pack system, I did not know the USMCs instructions to attach the assault pack to the main pack. The Renaissance Marine covers the correct way to attach the assault pack in the second video in his series on the ILBE. After watching these videos, I am certain you'll want to subscribe to his channel.
Links To The Renaissance Marine's ILBE Videos:
• The USMC ILBE Pack System
• Attaching ILBE Assault...
• USMC ILBE. Utilizing t...
• ILBE pack alterations
When I was in the Marines this was one of the few things I thought was a great product, and not just something some officer wanted to waste money on.
I used this pack exclusively from October through May this year and last. "IF" this pack were being produced commercially with the same materials, specifications and materials, I would buy another one (preferably in Multicam, I'm a Multicamaholic) . It is truly a fantastic pack. There are a few (and very few) things I would change (most very slightly) but it is in my humble opinion the finest general issue pack the United States of America EVER issued!
Brother, I'd like to thank you for your service to our GREAT Country! I pray blessings upon you and your family! God Bless You, The United States Military, and May God Bless America By Saving Her! I believe he is and will!
Yep I love my ILBE that I got, I did like using one on the Corps also, though sometimes I still break out my large Alice pack, for old times sake, haha. The Alice is a great pack for when it was developed, though they suck when heavily loaded down, haha. I carried one of those at first.
For sure man…where in for the change, from the older flak jackets to the ridiculous monstrosity that was the MTV? So damn heavy, haha. My medium was 55lbs with no mags in it, that was just the vest and plates, and empty pouches it came with. And it came in a damn plastic bag, all disassembled, in huge amount of pieces, haha. With no instructions, for the cable pull apart system. It was a nightmare, haha. But yeah when we got it, I was like what do they want us to do with this thing, fight tanks?
@@boonedockery7220 The only thing I would add is a zipper at base similar to the FILBE to reach sleeping gear without turning out the rest of the pack.
I was issued and used the ILBE. I did not like it. I opted to use a modified ALICE pack when I deployed.
This has got to be the most detailed review of this pack I've ever seen. Well done.
Thank You Very Much! I really appreciate that!
I've used my ilbe on backcountry hunts a few times. It is very comfortable under heavy loads, well designed and bomb proof.
Agreed! I'm happy to hear from another iLBE lover! Thank you for adding to the conversation! Much Appreciated!
Best review of an ILBE pack on TH-cam 👍
Thank you very much SGT!👍😀
After watching this great bible of ILBE decided to get my own, to carry my stuff and tools for work :)).
yes, i come back to watch this video over and over. i love the dept of information and enthusiasm!
Thank You brother! When I shot that video, It was a spur of the moment thing and I just started talking with not too much planning. I never would have thought it would be as well received as it has. When replying to comments about that video, I reference and supply links to your videos. Between the two of us I think that anyone seeking information on the ILBE with have a thorough and complete course on the pack! Thank you again for giving me the shout out and sharing the video. I really appreciate that Brother!
Very thorough review, I have ordered one for this camping season...cant wait !
That is a serious rucksack you are privileged to have there. This was fantastic. Bravo!
Thank You very Much! At the time I purchased it, they were quite plentiful. I searched for a good while to find the deal I did. I feel "BLESSED" to have been able to purchase what I did for the price I did. I am still amazed at the quality of this pack! Cheers My Friend!
This review and your knowledge is spot on. I used this and the filbe in the Marine Corps and I couldn't have put this any better
Thank you very much! This is greatly appreciated!
I'm after a new pack, multi-season, multi-weather, basically a mix between a hunting pack and a BOB. I swear man, there are 10,000 sponsored videos that absolutely suck. They don't dare go into a negative about a specific pack and a great deal of them straight up sound like shills.
I've been watching these vids for almost a month now and I STILL don't have a pack.....bc according to packtoobers - they're ALL fantastic....okay. I've watched TWO of your vids and I just ordered this pack surplus, undeployed, complete, and I have zero doubt about my purchase. I'm a gear head but I own nothing if it doesn't work and doesn't last.
Just wanna say thanks man, I love the stories and I love that you seem to be super enthusiastic about this stuff. You're a credit to your community. Please never change into Demolition Pack Channel or something equally absurd. Keep it real.
Thank You Very Much! You Have No Idea How Much Your Words Mean To Me! I Really Appreciate It! I keep it real and always will. Thanks Again!
Fantastic review, you know this pack and the history behind it, thanks!
Great job laying out the history and features. I really enjoyed the video!
Thank You!
Fantastic review! Wish more reviewers were this thorough.
Thank You Gil! I know I don't always cover all the bases I intend to (I'm still new to this and have a lot to learn) but I do the best I can with the knowledge I have. Thanks Again!
Wow! Great for all ILBE lovers! Super info. Learned more for sure. I've personally just completed all ILBE original component quest. Not cheap to do. Keep on trucking'.
Thank you Paul! I still believe the ILBE is the best mass issued military pack ever made! Congrats on completing the set!
Great instructional video John! Just picked up one of these yesterday. Very thorough review!
Thank you very much Jack! I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine!
Never thought listening to the history of a pack would've been so interesting. Thank you
Thank You! A lot of folks just think I drone on and on and annoy them... I prefer thorough over fluff. Thanks again!
Very nice and comprehensive. I was always unsure of how to attach my assault pack but I like the way you showed.
Thank You! I'm certain had I actually been issued one and trained properly I could have provided more and better information.
Excellent video thank you so much for putting it out! Bought one myself in the local military surplus store few years ago in good condition (no hydration pack, no assault pack) for $110. It’s an AMAZING deal for such a excellent pack!
Thank You! You got a great deal on a great pack! With the availability of the ILBE rapidly dwindling, if you can get a used, serviceable ILBE for less than $250, in your words you got "an AMAZING deal"! Years ago, I purchased 2 new swiss volcano (mountain) stoves for $17.00. Today one used stove sells for around $50 if you can find them. Jumping on good surplus deals is always a good investment!
Bought one of these 12 years ago. Use it as a winter/PT pack. It has been bombproof. Very happy with it.
Awesome!
Great job. Best review of this pack out there. The only thing you didnt touch on was the adjustable torso length in the frame.
Thank you! If I do another I will definitely mention that.
Great review. I got to use both this pack and the coyote brown colored FILBE when I was in. I went through boot camp and infantry school with the ILBE and was issued the FILBE when I got to my unit in 2012. My main gripe with the ILBE was that the day pack mounted to the back and being a grunt we were always loaded to absolute capacity. The daypack on the back put a lot of weight on the back of the pack that pulled you backwards. The FILBE mounts the daypack on top that I found to be more comfortable.
Thank you for adding your experienced insight! Having never used either pack in the military, your comment was very educational and enlightening. I felt the same about the Large ALICE pack. Once you stuffed everything in that pack it looked like you were carrying a green whiskey barrel and it was as about as comfortable as doing so. We all looked like Quasimodo (Hunchbacks) Humping that ruck! I'm going to have to break down and buy a FILBE.
@@boonedockery7220 It's a bit of a toss up who you ask amongst those that have used both as to what pack they liked more. If you do get a FILBE, I'd reccomend trying to get one with the 2nd generation frame, which has more reinforcement. I've seen failures with both packs - A strap that broke on me mid-hike at infantry school using the ILBE, and some frame cracking with the FILBE in extremely cold weather (I was in a cold weather unit 0/10 would not reccomend).
To be honest, I'd be happy with either pack. If you're not going to be carrying more than 50lbs or so and keep the daypack light then the ILBE should be just fine!
Great review man. I just bought this pack at local surplus store for 125.00$. I thought it was filbe but now I see it’s an ilbe. I’m pretty stocked about it. I needed a good pack for hauling meat on those way back deer hunts. I think this will serve many purposes for many yrs. Very informative vid thx.
Thank you very much, I'm glad you found it informative. Congratulations on scoring the pack at such a good price! It will work great for hunting and hauling meat! I am certain you'll like the ILBE!
The ILBE is way better than the FILBE. The FILBE is better for wearing over plates.
Good job I have had mine for a good while now got it packed and ready it's a great pack great video my friend.
Thank You Mark! From what you wrote I can tell Your My Kind Of People!!!👍 God Bless Brother!
Great video, I'm sold.
One of the best, if not the best review of this pack. Thanks for taking the time given.
Thank You VERY MUCH! I deeply appreciate that!
@@boonedockery7220 Your welcome. As a note I attach my main pack w/o shoulder straps or hip belt, to the Eberlystock F1 mainframe. If I need to run a assault pack I attach the Arbor Arms Tradesmen pack to the main pack using the buckles and a little modification. The Tradesmen costs much more than a used ILBE assault pack but it is a much better pack imo. Again great history lesson as well. I also used the ALICE system when I was in the Corps.
@@azprepsteader1803 I'll have to google the components but I am intrigued! Thank you for your comments! As far as my videos go, the comments are the icing on the cake! A Lot Of Great Information Shared In Them!!! Also, Thank You For Your Service To This Great Nation! If you used the ALICE system, your one of the Proud Old Guard! Still prepared and ready for the call too I bet! God Bless!
@@boonedockery7220 Once a Marine, always a Marine albeit a bit older and slower lol.
A bit of info on the F1 mainframe which primarily is a hunting frame. The F1 has the ladder rack system in it to adjust for ones upper body but also I like it because I still like to run a war belt as opposed to just a pack and chest rig (ranger rack). I can adjust the bottom of the F1 to ride at canteen height on the back of the belt. When I run the F1 in this manner I remove the hip belt from the Mainframe. No quick release on the F1. Being older the F1 is the best way (comfortable) for me to haul heavy loads. As well if I don't need a lot of gear I simply remove the ILBE and attach the Tradesmen to the F1 with a couple of Eberlystock batwings. Also I like the modularity of the F1 as I can haul game, wood, ammo, fuel etc If you can figure out how to lash it down the F1 can haul it.
@@azprepsteader1803 This is great information! ! I only ever used the ALICE LBE when I was a Cav Scout but as time went by I've tried many vests and rigs. Even though I'm comfortable with some of the chest rigs and have made multiple systems with them, I am still drawn back to the LBE. Simple and functional. I really like the British PLCE system. The cost of the higher end rigs are fair but, shipping is outrageous! So, I guess I'll just go back to what works for me and I can acquire Without a Kings (Or Queens) Ransom.
I just received one of these as a gift. It’s brand new and 100% complete with original hydration system. It has the instructions in it and all the factory tags. At first glance and once over I was really excited and impressed as I have a nice backpacking pack and a nice hunting pack. This was a great video! I really enjoyed the history part of it. I’m not too versed on this pack just yet but as it came from the factory the assault pack is strapped on different than you have it. If you undo the outside flap on the front of the pack that you showed us, the assault pack lays against the front of the pack and the flap goes over the assault pack. The clips on the flap, clip into the Corresponding clips on the pack. The strap at the top of the flap will clip into one of the female ends at the top of the pack near the main opening of the pack. You can cinch it down as tight as you need. Then the lid clips into place (as it would normally) over the assault pack effectively securing the assault pack into place. It fits snug and does not Protrude too far out. Again, this was a great video, I enjoyed it thoroughly. Thanks!
Edit: I just saw your video on how to put on the assault pack. Also, mine came with the large beaver tail. Does that make it a recon pack??
Someone REALLY Likes You! That IS AN AWESOME GIFT!!!! The Recon Pack is like Bigfoot! I've heard of them but have NEVER seen one! "IF" by any chance you received the two Sustainment Pouches, that set in worth it's weight in gold to collectors! If I had that pack, I'd never part with it and would use it as a primary pack. Congratulations On Receiving Such A Fine Gift! You Are Going To LOVE Using It!
Thank you for sharing this, it gives the rest of us hope that we too, may someday run across the RECON ILBE!
I'm pleased that between my video and Renaissance Marine's videos, you may have learned a few helpful bits of info about the pack.
Please comment again after you've been able to use it and let everyone know what you think! Thanks again and have a fantastic day!
Can you tell me where it was bought from?
@@Riverbank1776 If you’re asking me, I didn’t ask where he got it from. I thought about it but I felt it would be in bad taste to ask since it was a gift. From my understanding, he got himself one as well.
Great video my brother John!!! I learned a few things about the ILBE I didn't know!! Thanks for as always a very good and informative video brother!!🙂🙂🙂 and that guy you gifted one of those to is a very lucky man to have a great friend like you!!😉😉🙏🙏❤🙂🙂🙂 love ya brother keep up the awesome videos 🙏❤🙂👍👍👍🙂
As Always, Thank You Brother Jay! I'm Elated The Gift Was Well Received By My Dear Friend And BIC!!!! love You Too Brother! I'll Keep Filming As Long As Anyone Is Interested! Thanks For The Inspiration And Motivation You've Always Given Me!!!!
Great review, for an army dog!!! Well done brother, thanks for your video!
It`s a sad story for the Marines. But not as sad as the Army`s story when they were treated with UCP... 😀 some military decision makers must be corrupt or morons. Or both.
I love my ILBE, had 2 of them shipped to Germany when they were still cheap (around 100 bucks)... and kept the better one. I still use it every time I go on an overnighter with the boys. And it`s my BOB of course. Sometimes I wish I had the Recon version for more space (esp. in winter). Only change I made is a Kifaru waist belt, which is both lighter and more comfy.
Thanks for the comprehensive video, I enjoyed watching it!
UCP was pure corruption! Our government needs an enema! Currently the level of corruption in every area of our government is both obscene and palpable! Please excuse the rant.... I'm glad you own an ILBE and appreciate it as I do! The recon ILBEs are rare. The near mythical ILBE sustainment pouches go for more than $100 each IF you can find them. The last one (single) I saw on eBay was $125.00.
I'm glad you liked the video! I had no clue it would have been so well received. Have a great day!
Additionally I’ll add: The rated load of the pack is 125lbs (good luck going far with that). Also, the way you attached the go-to-hell pack is/was not as intended. I won’t say anything is “wrong”, but it was designed differently.
Awesome review sir!!! I own both the standard ILBE and the recon ILBE. Also have both the assault pack and the corpsman assault pack. They are all bomb proof. Finally found the recon sustainment pouches at a good price and snagged them. Thinking of buying another standard pack and doing a mod job on it lol. I enjoy seeing a great review of a great pack. New subscriber here!!!!
Welcome to the family Vince! You have acquired some fine packs sir! The sustainment pouches are as scarce as hens teeth and usually very expensive IF they can be found. Congratulations on finding them AND at a good price!
My channel has a good variety of bushcrafting and wild camping videos and most of them have a hint of military in them. Being prior service, I have a tendency to use military equipment with a military mindset.
I certainly hope you enjoy some of them and by all means, anytime you can add to the conversation with your comments please do! I feel that my videos are more of the conversation topic and comments are a perpetual learning thread.
Thank you for subscribing and i can't wait to hear from you in the future!
Great review. I got this pack new for free from USMC DRMO several years ago and I’m glad I did.
Awesome! I have heard from a few (very few) that they didn't care for it for various reasons. Compared to the A.L.I.C.E. packs I was issued the ILBE is Amazing! Compared to my numerous Mystery Ranch packs, It Stands Up To ALL of Them In Quality And Function! I had no idea that anything like the DRMO even existed. I had to google it! If the Army had anything like that in the early '80s, I wish I had known about it!!!!
@@boonedockery7220 I too was issued an ALICE pack when I was in the Marines. As a grunt in the early 90's I hated the pack. I wish they had this in my day. I am now using this pack for everything from hiking to mining and fishing.. Cheers.
I desperately love and miss DRMO
Osprey has had the integrated daypack concept perfected for years. Cool to see it in a military pack
Spot on review John! I couldn't agree more that this was a good pack, so much so that I bought one and took it up Mt Rainier! I even learned a little about this pack from your video and I'm the one who carried the darn thing lol!! Unfortunately the USMC as went back to a MOLLE style pack. Funny enough about two months ago I snapped the frame lol. Great vids.. keep them coming!!
Thank you very much Mike! Your endorsement brings a new level of validity to this review. I know that if it weren't the pack I praised you would set the record straight! Your "REAL" use and recreational preferred use of the pack adds credence to my comments. Thank you so very much for posting this comment. I definitely appreciate it and any one that reads it should view it as good advice for procuring one of these fantastic packs! As long as Folks keep watching, I'll keep publishing! God Bless Brother!
braver man than me. i wont get anywhere near mt rainier. its overdue for an eruption ya know. lol
Big thanks to you ! I have a whole set too. Love it! It's my bug out pack .
Isn't this an amazing pack!?!? By any chance do you have the Ultra Rare Sustainment Pouches??? I've found a few on eBay, but WAY out of my price range. I honestly can't believe that these aren't being currently produced commercially. I'm happy to hear from another ILBE aficionado!
The ILBE is effectively a Arc'Teryx's Bora on steroids so the foundation was there in their expedition grade rigs. It was born to succeed. I liked mine a lot. I moved on to a FILBE which I also like for different reasons which is Mystery Ranch's take on the MOLLE II, but with all the issues the MOLLE II design had addressed and it carries way better in my opinion than either the MOLLE II or the ILBE (not that either pack didn't carry great).
Either rig is over-engineered for civilian use. No one is ever going to wear them out just backpacking a typical recreational load and they make the best BOBs and are perfect for extended hunting outings. They're like budget Kifarus or other high falutin packs. I used the IBLE Assault Pack as my EDC bag for a decade and it's been through 6 states with me. Bombproof. I still have it.
I have two, neither came complete, I purchased the additional pieces on the internet, I love them, I keep one with me at all times when I travel.
I have had several, however I have given them to friends over the years I wish I would have held on to one extra. They are amazing packs. For a mass military issue pack, they are absolutely incredible!
great video, really enyoed it, keep it up man
My favorite backpacking camp hiking TH-camrs. I've bought multiple products because of you
Have you been pleased with the items you've purchased? I know when I first started getting into contemporary wild camping, I purchased quite a few things based on TH-cam videos that wound up not getting used that much or replaced. I realized that I had to really do my homework for a while before I bought items in excess of $100. I would really feel bad if someone made an investment on an item because of one of my videos that wound up not working for them. I do things very differently and I use gear that others don't or wouldn't use. I know what works for me, and why. I hope the kit(s) you build become personalized ergonomic systems that work for you, as mine has for me. I pray you have a very blessed day.
@@boonedockery7220 I have purchased a mallome cookset from your video with Carter that I have been happy with as well as a helikon-tex swagman that I love the versatility of. You have also steered me away from the mystery ranch THOR backpack that I almost purchased and I found that series very helpful. I appreciate that we both tend to look for products with muted tones as well.
About the time you posted this video, I found a batch of complete ILBE marpat systems (all three components) in new unissued condition. I paid just over $500. At that time I was seeing the assault packs (used) going for ~$200. I don’t regret buying it in the slightest. That said, I have an Eberlestock Skycrane 2 that I use for most of my excursions. I will never get rid of my ILBE though. I may end up setting it up specifically for hunting trips, or I might just keep it around for an extra pack in case of insert-scenario-here.
As a Corpsman I carried used the ilbe corpsman assault pack.Great medical pack loaded with alot of gear.
I have seen them. Great Pack! I haven't seen one for sale for a long time.
I got mine several years ago, absolutely love it. I did have to buy the day pack separately
I have yet to hear from anyone that owns this pack that has any substantial complaints about the ILBE. It is a rarity in military issued equipment!
Thank you so much for this review! Subbed!
It makes my heart happy you liked it! Thank you very much for your subscription! I hope you find a couple more of my videos you enjoy!
Great video, like the socom also
Thank You! I'm Quite fond of her!😀👍
Excellent review - Thank you !
Thank You Raymond! I deeply appreciate your kind words as I also hope you found the video informative and entertaining. Cheers!
@@boonedockery7220 Absolutely ! I am a brand new subscriber, and am looking forward to checking out the other videos from your library in the days to come. Take care !
@@raymondparker1110 Thank You! I hope you find a few that you enjoy!
Great review. Watched it again.🙂
Thank You Doug! I apologize for the extremely late reply! Renaissance Marine TV produced a fantastic series of ILBE videos that actually corrects many of my speculations. He Has The Straight Scoop On The ILBE! Check it out, I think you'll like them. Have A Great Weekend!
Evening mate, great looking rucksack. Looking comfortable an easy too use. 👍🔥🇬🇧💪🇺🇸
It's probably my favorite full size pack!
I to am addicted to my ILBE😂. I once thought of cutting off molle, straps and center divide to drop a pound…I literally couldn’t do it, she’s like my child. I’m doing a few videos on this bag. Learned a lot here. Beautiful video brother. Subd. D😎🇺🇸
Thank You Very Much! I'm with you, I love the pack and I can't bring myself to alter it in any permanent way! I just checked out and subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to watching! Have a great day!
@@boonedockery7220 thanks brother. D😎🇺🇸
Thank you this is best rew. That I ever seen
I appreciate that Dean! Thank You!
@@boonedockery7220 Thank you. IM waching yor's rewiew of things that I have and you are 100 percent objektive,and If it is possible could you do rew of Helikon Tex boug put bag.
Best Regards from Europe (Croatia)
Another great video!
Thanks again! I appreciate it!
Great video. I just bought a used ILBE, Gen II. It's great.
Also, the waist belt stays open. It's not getting caught behind your back when you're putting it on.
John, I apologize for the extremely late reply! Congratulations on the ILBE purchase!!! The more I use mine the more I love it! I'm using my ILBE exclusively this winter. So far it's performing fantastically!
Actually , the back flap on the rear of the main bag is for your hydration system (the short pocket is where you put your camelback of water), also you would use this flap to put over the small day pack. This goes outside the daypack to help attach it to the main pack. It’s hard to explain, lol
Nice video! New subscriber 👍🏼
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CLARIFICATION!!!!!! I will go and figure it out now!!!!! Thanks for your support as well!!!!!
oh, you probably just put the bladder into the small daypack`s bladder compartement :)
I've learnt with my time in the corps.... the easy way is never the answer.. the most inconvenient way is always chosen
😆😅😆😅😆😅👍 Truth!
Great review. Helped me out when I got one of these early this year, coming back now to pay my due. I really love the camo pattern and I find it works better than multicam in arid evergreen forests.
Question, how in the world do I fit the modular sleep system in this thing? I think I may need to underload the stuff sack and just pack one of the sleeping bags on top in the main compartment.
Thank you! I glad I was able to provide some useful information. I really like MARPAT! It is a fantastic pattern and even works well in my neck of the woods. The Marines used the base pallet (with minor changes) of the venerable Woodland Pattern. I was issued woodland when I was in the Army. The color pallet was really tweaked to be used in Europe, that leaves it a bit dark for about 1/3rd of the year. With the tweaks that The Marine Corps made it pushes the "Dark Time" to about 2 months a year where I live. Unlike the Army, The Marines save a lot of money by NOT making much of there gear in MARPAT.
I do not own a sleep system so I have no idea how the system would be packed or attached. I would contact Renaissance Marine (on TH-cam) He taught me a few things about the ILBE that I didn't know after I posted my video. I'm sorry I could not answer your question. Have a fantastic evening!
Tan Webbing on top of the lid allows for securing natural camouflage. The color adds to breaking up the camo added to the pack.
Thank You For Letting Me Know!
I’m glad you said this. I was going to point out that some “veg” fixes the color variant. Semper Fi!!
Best review for the ilbe ive seen, great job. I love mine its just about perfect for bug out or the outdoors. If you were looking for the hydration pack I saw some on ebay new pretty cheap. Keep up the great reviews.
Thank you for the compliment and the tip about the hydration pack, both are very much appreciated!
@@boonedockery7220 no problem, also there's a seller on ebay that makes pouches to go on the hip belt. I think I'm going to get some but they're not cheap, I feel like they would be worth it tho lol.
@@alphaomegasurvivalsupply6548 That sounds very interesting to me. Could you share the sellers name or a link with me? Thank YOU!
@@boonedockery7220 no worries, here ya go and it looks like he makes the straps black or tan, so maybe message him and make sure he sends you the right color for gen 1 or 2 whichever you would prefer. www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-of-Custom-Digital-Marpat-Hip-Belt-Pocket-Pouches-for-USMC-ILBEMain-Pack-/272925803820?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286
@@alphaomegasurvivalsupply6548 Thank You! I'll check it out!!
They look really good!
The gray and coyote molle 2 frames fixed the black plastic issues. The problem is that the gen 1 molle rucks don't quite fit the new frames. I got my ACU ruck new in the plastic in 2008 and she is still going strong, but then again, I don't gorilla pimp it or throw it off the back of the truck everyday either.
When wearing a pack, you should wear the waistbelt tight and release some tension off of the shoulders that way the weight sits down on your hips.
I have a USMC FILBE, a MOLLE 2, an Alice pack, and a Crossfire Australia DG16. Along with smaller backpacks. I've always had my eye on an ILBE but never found a new one that's complete for less than 500. I was hoping to find one for 300 and under. You definitely sparked my interest in finding one again! Looks like it has nice padding, and more features than I realized! Great review!!
Thank you! I don't want to appear overly jubilant over this pack, however I have NEVER seen nor carried ANY standard military issue pack that even came close to the quality of the ILBE. You might have to search for individual components to assemble a complete set, but, it might be more affordable in the long run. I have yet to add the USMC Issue Hydration system and the ILBE Sustainment Pouches. The sustainment pouches are next to impossible to find and if you do, the asking price is usually well in excess of $100 for a single pouch..... Good Luck if you decide to get one. I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy mine if you do!
I was able to find one on Ebay for 130 dollars complete except for the assault pack.
Znemur has them complete and bran new, free shipping for $75 right now. Never ordered from them but that’s cheap!
@@shanek6582 Who's Znemur??
@@americanpatriot6918 then when you get there, type military and it’s there. Looks like some other good deals but I’ve never ordered. If you are near East Tennessee you can have my complete ilbe main pack for $90 but I’m not shipping lol. With my back I’ll never be able to carry it
I have both the ILBE and the ILBE Recon with assault packs and substancement pounces.
Pretty rare
LOL, great vid! So spot on.
Thank You!
I just recieved one of these. Best ruck Ive ever had, dont tell Alice. She's a jealous one 😄
Shhhhhhhhh.... It'll Be our secret.....
Great Video
Thank You!
very good review good job
Domingo, Thank You Very Much My Friend!
Looking good!
Thank you Dakota! Cheers!
Great review bro seems like a really good pack just surprised tht being a military pack it doesn't hve a built in scabbard cud put hunting rifle on side where you put your water bottle and secure with straps pretty amazing pack thx x2 cheers
Im sure u remember me I watch this video every once in awhile. I love watching videos about all the packs I have here and there. Today I saw this video pop up on my TH-cam menu so I thought id watch it again. I also own the ilbe as u may remember but I also own the large molle 2 rucksack in ACU camo. I have to say I actually love my molle rucksack. I have strapped up with 70 to 85 pounds or even more closer to 90 to 100 with groceries. I don't have a car right now so ill take the bus to the store and buy a few weeks of groceries no joke. One time I filled my bag up with 9 pop 2 liters and food too. I've Done this s million times so heavy i cud barely walk. And if I sat down I'm not getting back up again. No joke. On the bus I'd have to lean against the railing. But my point is this pack has been put thru heavy loads and camping and rugged work. It's pretty comfy and very very strong. And I did most of this in dead of winter in Minnesota. And no breaking Nor a chance to. It's sooò rugged. Don't sleep on ur molle rucksack it is tougher then u may think. And with the square frame it's soooo sturdy especially at high weight .that square design is soo how it shud be. Better support and power. Give it a chance!!!
I really enjoyed using that MOLLE pack. I never had any major issues with it. The issues I discussed on the video were relayed to me by combat veterans that were issued the pack. They all were in early enough that they could still use the old ALICE packs. Being infantry (82nd Airborne, U.S. Army Rangers and Army Special Forces) they used and abused the MOLLE and they actually preferred the the old ALICE pack to the MOLLE. Most of the issues they had with the frame breaking was from being thrown in and out of vehicles. The broken frames made them unusable. Tours in Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq in very hard use and rugged environments were the basis of their opinions. For our civilian use, when we are in total control of the pack would negate most of these issues. Whereas the MOLLE pack is a great civilian use pack, The combat Veterans I spoke to that used them in the field found them lacking as a combat pack. My understanding is that the Army and USMC have addressed the frame issue by completely changing the material and basic design of the frames and have drastically reduced the occurrences of braking. I personally liked it. However after using, Mystery Ranch, Kifaru, and Granite Gear military packs, I found the MOLLE to be much heavier and overly complicated when decked out with the complete pack system components. All that being said, It is a good solid pack and for the price I paid for a complete system, I found it to be an incredible deal. Anyone that has the opportunity to purchase one can rest assured they own a well made, heavy load carrying pack that is incredibly comfortable. I personally LOVED using it in Winter as all of my winter kit is VERY bulky and heavy! At the time it was the only pack I owned that could handle the load.
Thank you VERY MUCH for bringing up this point as it is very deserving of a deeper discussion and many that read these comments will glean useful and beneficial information from them! Thanks Again! I hope you have an excellent evening!
@@boonedockery7220 great reply thankyou as always. I love mystery ranch and kifaru and u shud look at hill people gear based out of Colorado all USA 🇺🇸 made. Their my go to packs. And I've seen them with 300pounds in the pack while being worn walking a trail. Yes 300 pounds !! He didn't walk far but it was incredible. Hill people gear is by far a number one favorite of mine. Thank for a great reply and the time and energy u always put in to replying. Be well sir!! And take care!
I just ordered a surplus one, Gen 2, after reading that for me it would be a better fit over the FILBE. I just wish it came with the assault pack also so I had a smaller option with it.
Great for backpacking in Colorado!
YES!!!!!!
Those old molle II packs accept the new frames the army is using now, the new frames are inexpensive and won't break, get one if you're worried about it....... anyway, don't abuse your pack and i bet you that old black frame never breaks ethier
Thanks for the info Kurt! I started off my bushcrafting/wild camping adventure with the Molle II. and it performed well. It was heavy but comfortable even with a heavy load. I'll keep my eye out for a newer frame and if I can get one on the cheap, I'll pick it up.
Is this new frame u mention the one their using on the new molle 4,000 rucksack?what is the new frame? If u can answer that that wud be great. Thankyou!
@@Tali-Khammael MOLLE 4000 uses DEI 1606mc frame.
The lid straps are for extra camouflage and work even in night ops under nvg use.. hence the reason for the color difference
That company that didn't give u the complete package happen to be sportsman guide?? I always love rewatching this video of urs. I'm a subscriber and it's a great piece.
Thank you very much for the views and subscription! You Nailed the company that I eluded to. If you haven't seen them already, check these videos out by Renaissance Marine. They are very informative!
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You can find the Hydration System on eBay from the company that makes them, Source, New for 50 bucks, I bought two of them to go with my ILBE Main Pack and Assault Pack as well as my wife's. I love the ILBE, one of my favorite pieces of kit.
Awesome! Do you happen to remember the manufacturer?
@@boonedockery7220 Source, a company out of Israel
Yep I used the ALICE pac for years they are bomb proof.
It was the universal everything "Bomb Proof" carrier!
I got one a few years ago....amazing. I want to get instructions on which straps connect with which when I put the assault pack on it.
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well done thx for this.
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it!
Wow love that pack
Jeff, I remember watching quite a few videos about this pack just before I ordered my pack. practically none of them praised the pack for the quality and design it clearly possesses. I am very glad I have several packs that I use because every time I come back to the ILBE, I love it even more!
Thank you
Your Very Welcome Jess! I just added a few links in this videos description box you might be interested in viewing that adds even more info about the ILBE.
I just picked up the ilbe 2nd gen in excellent condition for 80$ on marketplace. Been wanting one to replace my molle 2 for a while but i didnt want to spend almost 300$ for a used bag. I would rather just spend a little more for a new mystery ranch
I love my ILBE, I noticed Mystery Ranch's prices have really gone up quite a bit over the past several years. The cost of materials and manufacturing has led to the price hikes. Fantastic packs though!
Its a okay pack in my opinion. I like the USMC FILBE or ALICE packs a lot better. Other than that, i really enjoyed the video!👍
Thank you Adly! What is the extent of your use of the FILBE and ALICE? I carried my ALICE for many years but I have never carried a FILBE. I'm always interested in other opinions, tips and tricks, hacks, mods, you name it as far as packs are concerned! Please share if you any info you can! Thanks again!
There's a replica of this ILBE Pack (main + assault) a brand called Flyye. They have lots of colors/patterns to choose from. Works great as the original. Not sure with the quality but it would work the same purpose as the original.
I own several Flyye items and from what I have seen, I am impressed! I'll try to find their copy and check it out! Thank You Very Much For Sharing This!
i wish there was a video on how to adjust the shoulder straps. just pieced one together (didn't want to pay 300+ so got everything separate) and trying to figure out how to adjust it all. My kid and her husband both just got out of the Marines but they both used the FILBE system so no help there.
The front pouch where you and many want to Carry wet weather gear is designed to hold a hydration system.
Thank you Steve! I actually just learned of this from a fellow youtuber. Renaissance Marine! He has several great videos on the ILBE. It sounds as if you may have intimate knowledge of this pack and the videos may be moot. Thanks again for sharing this info as many that read it will learn from it!
I got the FULL SET (BRAND NEW) with ALL COMPONENTS included for $80 from a USMC Vet who got it free directly from the military just as he was being honorably discharged. He didn't need it and sold it to me. All I had was $80 in my pocket, and the deal was made. I ride my Harley-Davidson cross country 2x annually and the whole kit takes care of all my needs. Hydration, tent, sleeping system, etc. The hydration system I got with it is superior quality and definitely not made in China. I don't know what you got, but it's not original with this pack. The OG hydration pack fits neatly in the big bag and the 1-day assault backpack that comes with the set.
Awesome! You got an amazing deal! It should serve you well for a Very Long Time! I ordered the hydration bladder from "Sportsman's Guide". I no longer order anything from them. They have been guilty of false advertising far too frequently and I have not been satisfied with their so called "customer service".
do you wear it all on your back when you are riding? Or do you strap it to the fender or sissy bar? I always have difficulties with a heavy backpack on my bike if I go for more than an hour...
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You're Welcome Doug.
Great review. Very thorough. The history was particularly interesting. What LBE were the Marines using at the time? Doesn't look like it would integrate with web gear very well.
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Nate, I honestly don't know for certain. I would suspect some sort of modular vest.
Do you know the size or the pack cover that will fit over the ILBE? Thank you very much for the video! I am a Navy Seabees and we always got the Marine`s hand me downs so we got issued the coyote brown version of this pack.
I would say a large pack cover should work.
You attached the patrol pack wrong, it's supposed to be secured by the flap at the back that you currently have wrapped up. This allows it to be more secure and sit much higher on the pack for better center of gravity and load distribution.
I have one and I got it for 140 at my surplus store where I live I love it I’m thinking about getting another one so if this will never wears out then I have another one they are awesome I will never go to any other pack out there there’s no pack like just one in my opinion this is the best just wanted to let you know
David, I have numerous packs (my wife believes it's an unhealthy addiction, but that's besides the point...) and even though I use different packs for different reasons, "IF" I were to have to choose just one, I believe it would be the ILBE! I have had two others and have given them to worthy brothers. "IF" I can find another and be in the financial position to do it, I would buy it! That is the only pack I own that I truly want a spare. I'm glad there is another out their that appreciates this pack as much as I! God Bless!
it's good the divider is camo. if an enemy sticks his head in your bag, he'll never see it. 😂
I love my ilbe, my m14/m1a as well😉😉
Thomas, That Comment Tells Me A Lot About You! And I Like It! Like never before, our time to be prepared is crucial! God Bless You Thomas!
The First Generation Pack had BLACK BUCKLES , The Second Generation Pack Had TAN Buckles > Buckles Those were The GOOD ONES !!!! You can Thank Natick Soldier Systems Center in Massachusetts !!!! For Their Constant Redesign !!!
This is very cool information! Thank you for sharing it with me!
@ Boonedockery... In your opinion, do you think the A harness LBE system that was worn or used with the Alice be worn with this pack or do you believe the pack would be to long ? Thanks.
It is unfortunately too long. Actually the only rig I would use with mine is a chest rig. I prefer to wear my harnesses across my navel above my waist. Have a fantastic day!
@@boonedockery7220 I've had and been using the large Alice and A harness LBE setup for several years but been thinking long term situation possibly in our coming future and so the Alice just isn't big enough to hold winter and summer clothing, gear, ammo ect so I myself have been thinking of getting the ILBE system but I just can't bring myself to giving up the A harness LBE because I've got it setup the way I like it with it's loadout. Decision's, decision's.... With the experience in all the packs you've used, what would or could you recommend? Keep in mind, I still need to have my fighting load out but can't afford the price on some of these new packs, thank you in advance brother and keep humping.
Assault pack bottom nestles into outside flap he put away in the beginning for extra support.
Excellent! I will try that out! Thank you so much for the information!👍
I bought mine used for around $150 to use as a bugout /survival bag. It was full of sand when I got it (probably from Iraq or Afghanistan) but it's in great shape. I think that it's awesome that a soldier once used it. I done away with the radio pouch and divider and cut some of the extra MOLLE off to lighten it up. I nicked a small hole in the lid when I was cutting the MOLLE off and the material is so tough that it won't tear when you get a small hole in it like that. I sowed it up with braided 50lb fishing line and it's good as new you can't even tell that it was there. Great bugout bag. I don't have the assault pack but I'm thinking about getting one although I don't really need it. Only bad thing about the lid is that if you forget to zip it back up you'll lose everything that you have in it. That's why I don't carry loose small items in it I keep everything in stuff sacks inside the lid as to make it harder to fall out if I accidentally leave the lid unzipped. This is not really a problem with the bag it's user error. I also cut the hydration pouch off and all the Molle behind it because I don't need it and it was just way too much extra unnecessary material. I lightened the pack up by atleast a pound and a half with everything that I cut off and took out of it but you have to do it very carefully as to not cut any holes into it when removing anything that's sown to it like the MOLLE. If you wear this pack correctly most of the weight is going to be on your legs and it is rough on your legs at first but you get used to it. Good thing is you can switch the load from your legs to your back. As a backpacking pack it's not the best option but as a bugout bag it's perfect. It's heavy but it's built like a tank and that's what you want in a bugout bag, reliability.
Great Observations! Thanks for sharing! I always try to use stuff sacks and load cells in my pack for organization. I loath having loose items in my pack. I have seen several examples of streamlining the ILBE and if I ever find a serviceable used pack on the cheap, I plan on doing the same. I use a seam ripper when I remove webbing or pouches from military gear. I also use 3 or 4 ply waxed linen tread to sew with. It's the same tread I use with my leather work. Thanks again for sharing this information! I know it will useful for many that read it! Have a great day!
Can you please tell me, is there a trick to getting the hood to cover the top opening of the main bag body? Mine wants to slide forward and the bag contents get exposed. Thank you!
From my experience with the pack, The only time the lid has fit well on my pack is when it was completely full. The size of the slide release buckles creates a sizeable gap. Modifying the pack by permanently attaching a ladder lock to the main pack and using only webbing on the lid to lace through it would definitely shorten the gap by close to three inches.
I generally use a pack cover over my ILBE so the gap isn't going to be an issue with rain or debris getting into the main pack. Had the designers placed a second pair of attachment buckles lower on the shoulder strap side of the pack, one could use them when carrying a reduced load and the gap would not exist. Again, another modification that one could do to address the issue.
I have been bless by having the ability to acquire a variety of different sized packs. If my kit won't fill the ILBE, I simply use another pack.
I just checked out your channel, watched your intro and subscribed. I can't wait to look at it in depth!
Have a fantastic day and thanks for commenting!
@@boonedockery7220 amazing they could have such a design flaw. Thanks for the kind words about my channel - appreciate them much!
@@BushcraftWoodsDevil I deeply appreciate you watching and contributing to the conversation! I can't say it enough, the comments are my favorite part of YouTubing! I pray you to have a good and blessed evening!
@@boonedockery7220 thanks much, God bless and watch over you and your's as well brother.
Hello , my name is Vlad i am 49 ..the best and most detailed review by far for this amazing pack, so many usefull info's, is it possible to establish som communication?
Hello Wlad, thank you very much for your kind words. Currently, I have very little time to devote to the channel. I am dealing with relatives with very serious health issues as well as many other issues that demand my time. You are welcome to email me at boonedockery1750@gmail.com However, I can not guarantee that I will be able to reply to you in a timely manner. Prayerfully the issues I'm dealing will be dealt with in a month or two. Currently, I have hundreds of comments I still need to reply to and about 50 emails that need my attention. I do the best I can with the time I have, which is never enough. Thank you for watching and commenting. Have a great day.
Your right, I'm a collector.... whenever i see "propper" on a tag i usually pass on the item.
It's amazing what a difference an extra row of stitching can do to improve quality and longevity. I bought a Helicon "camogrom" SAS Smock when I was in England around 10 years ago and wound up resewing every button and re-enforced several other parts of the smock. After that it was great. Why in the world that wasn't done at the factory boggles my mind. It was inexpensive compared to everything else on the market at the time. It took me a leisurely 2 hours to do all the hand sewing. At the factory with machines it would have taken about 5 minutes by trained sewers. I would have gladly paid an extra $20. Oh Well.... That's the world we live in, minimal effort at maximum prices...
You can also remove the hip belt, and attach the lid by just wrapping the straps around the belt and buckle them to make a decent butt pack
Great tip Jon! Next time I take it out, I'll give it a try. Actually seeing that all the component parts are sold separately, one could buy a belt and a lid or two and build a dedicated rig! God Bless!
What company was the one you had trouble with so I know to watch out or avoid them entirely
Sportsman's Guide. They have such massive product sales they don't have to care about customer service. I will never purchase anything from them again.