me first time in my life was skippy, first week in September and it was mega giga gaga cool, first day dolphins, first 4 days sun smooth wind, 4 x anchored 2 x docked, less people, less boats always a place, 1 day full action infront storm 5bft and 7,5kts sailspeed, no crash and only needed 23 litres for 1 week^^. Luck was on my(our) side^^
I just don't understand why everybody feels the need to go to the places that are absolutely not special at all ? What is this obsession with going to Hvar, Vis and Solta ? There are so many other places, which are far better, and are also for free, where you can go to ? We arrived, with our own boat, in Croatia (from Greece) in mid June and at the moment it is mid September, we are still around (now in Murter) and we have not spent a single day in a marina, not a single day in a port, we have only been on our own anchor and only in Pula we needed to pay for that (20 euro per day). We have not passed by the heavily overpriced popular restaurants, we simply went to the ones that are not the most likely ones and all of a sudden prices are cut in half. We have eaten oysters for free in Istra (you can just grab them from the concrete walls, like the locals do). In other words, sailing in Croatia is expensive for those who only want to go where everybody else goes. And the problem with that is you end up in anchorages which are completely unsafe. I saw an anchorage in your video where it would have been total chaos if you would have been hit by a thunder storm. To me that is not a safe place to be, so we don't go there. When I can slam into another boat when I am on a mooring buoy then that buoy is unsafe and I won't take it. After seeing your video I start to understand why people call Croatia expensive. If you go to the hyped up places it is indeed expensive. But if you go to the not so popular places and use your own anchor, don't go to the popular restaurants etc, you can save yourself thousands of euros. May want to give it a try next time. We will stay in Croatian waters until end of October, then we will go back to Greece, can highly recommend the low season.
@@davedavids9619 ...but in ports will charge you for water during high season, or not? Till now I never got it for free, there was always someone there or even no free tap. If you took it a canister or two on petrol station I guess it is duable, but if you want 600 liters, it will take you at least half an hour to do it and if there is a line of boats behind you.. Maybe if you do it simultaniously, but you need much more water than diesel, so ...
@@LIVE_AT_FULL_SAILS it is a matter of timing mostly. During day time you can always come into a port or marina for some water. Not all water is good water however, so be aware that you cannot drink that water, it is just for showering, toilet and for cooking if you first boil the water for about 5 min. During the morning hours, after everybody leaves there is enough time to come in, top up the tanks and leave again. If you have 600, 1000 or 1500 liters onboard you should be able to last for a few days. So planning your stops for water is a good idea. Yes, you will have to pay for the water, sometimes they charge 1 euro per 100 ltr or even 2 euro per 100 ltr, but that is still cheaper than paying 200 euro for a night in a marina. And if the fuel station has water as well you just take the water while you take the fuel. If you have to drag out the fuel stop you just use a slower flow rate. But also in fuel stations there are slow times, usually Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday there aren't that many clients and if there are it is only at the end of the day. We were just last week in Brbinj (Dugi Otok) and there was a water connection on the municipal quay. If you are familiar with Navily you will know that they always state if you can get water there or not.
@davedavids9619 thank you. I will really check in Navily. For now, the only place where I could get free water, was Greece. Or almost free, lets say Poros for 4 EUR, Serifos for 10 EUR for staying over night, and even for free in Monemvasia.
@TheNatkica, if you would go to the not so standard places, go outside of the main high season (mid July - end of August) you will find it is much quieter and you can still have complete anchorages to yourself. But in order to do that you will have to say goodbye to the standard places like Bol, Hvar city, Solta, Skradin, Zadar, Vis, Dubrovnik etc. As an example, we could have stayed in the marinas in Dubrovnik back in June when we arrived. Would have costed us 150 euro for a night. Instead we went 10 min North to a place called Zaton, anchored for free and the scenery was more beautiful than the marina in Dubrovnik. We still made it into the old town of Dubrovnik, just paid much less.
@@LIVE_AT_FULL_SAILS yes. Our boat was next to your boat ( side to side). Look at part in stari grad. The double mast boat. We spent a lot of time on boat. In Stari Grad we anchored twice for almost 3 weeks.
I see it now and really can't believe it. What a coincidence. I'm very happy about it. I remember you well, I always check ketch boats, I'm a great fan of Amel (because of the Delos I believe :))
Are you still on boat now? On saturday I'm going on another sailing week in the same area, hoping for some real wind this time. And on monohull, which I like more. They are more pristine :)
@@LIVE_AT_FULL_SAILSNot now. Its a week that i left the boat. But surely i will come on boat in a short time. We are thinking to participate on Jabuka regatta, just for fun.
I took my experiences as sailed solo from Amsterdam to Mallorca by ocean and then drive multi types of boats ( catamarans, sailing, power,RIB) in multi charter companies and living in boat full time day and night .and have more than 7000 nm
Tipičen turističen(terorističen) charter vijađ. Sam nikoli ne izbiram teh destinacij, in tudi sicer me ne vidijo med 15.7-15.8. Je pa res, da imam lastniško, in sem sam svoj skiper. Ampak razumem, s takšnimi krompirčki na barki, drugače tudi ne gre. Upam da si jim dobro zaračunal😅. Luštn video, dobri posnetki z drončkom.
Tudi osebno se teh terminov izogibam na Hrvaškem zaradi gneče, v Grčiji pa zaradi vročine. Ampak je kot praviš, drugače, če o plovbi odločaš sam. S posnetki z dronom pa prav nikoli nisem povsem zadovoljen... Ko delam montažo, prav vedno še manjka kak kader 🤣 Pa hvala za pozitiven komentar 👍
It is not allowed, but it is not forbidden either. In practice this means that the waterway must not be obstructed with a long line of the anchored boat which is tied to the shore. That can be a danger to smaller vessels that pass there at night.
Mestre, nisu Pakleni otoci nego su Paklinski…po paklini-smoli…i zabranjeno je vezati se kopno za drvece i stijene ( pomorsko dobro ) od sljedece sezone ce se takvo vezivanje drasticno kaznjavati….
I know about the name of Paklin's islands (Paklinski), but even croatian people has problems with correct pronounciation. About tie to the rocks I'm aware of it, but sometimes there is no other way.
It wasn't even two hours. And I believe ''cruising'' or even ''konoba hunting'' would probably be more appropriate term. But almost everyone calls this ''sailing'' and with other terms video wouldn't get your attention 🤷♂😉
@@LIVE_AT_FULL_SAILS these are typical trolls looking for attention and reaction. Just block them and hide them form your channel is the best approach so they don't infect the vibes or just ignore them. I think your video is good and very informative. Thank you for posting it.
me first time in my life was skippy, first week in September and it was mega giga gaga cool, first day dolphins, first 4 days sun smooth wind, 4 x anchored 2 x docked, less people, less boats always a place, 1 day full action infront storm 5bft and 7,5kts sailspeed, no crash and only needed 23 litres for 1 week^^. Luck was on my(our) side^^
btw i drove away in vienna with 800 eu in cash and came back with 500. was very cheap boat for 2000,- 4 cabines/ 6 people
I just don't understand why everybody feels the need to go to the places that are absolutely not special at all ? What is this obsession with going to Hvar, Vis and Solta ? There are so many other places, which are far better, and are also for free, where you can go to ? We arrived, with our own boat, in Croatia (from Greece) in mid June and at the moment it is mid September, we are still around (now in Murter) and we have not spent a single day in a marina, not a single day in a port, we have only been on our own anchor and only in Pula we needed to pay for that (20 euro per day). We have not passed by the heavily overpriced popular restaurants, we simply went to the ones that are not the most likely ones and all of a sudden prices are cut in half. We have eaten oysters for free in Istra (you can just grab them from the concrete walls, like the locals do).
In other words, sailing in Croatia is expensive for those who only want to go where everybody else goes. And the problem with that is you end up in anchorages which are completely unsafe. I saw an anchorage in your video where it would have been total chaos if you would have been hit by a thunder storm. To me that is not a safe place to be, so we don't go there. When I can slam into another boat when I am on a mooring buoy then that buoy is unsafe and I won't take it.
After seeing your video I start to understand why people call Croatia expensive. If you go to the hyped up places it is indeed expensive. But if you go to the not so popular places and use your own anchor, don't go to the popular restaurants etc, you can save yourself thousands of euros.
May want to give it a try next time. We will stay in Croatian waters until end of October, then we will go back to Greece, can highly recommend the low season.
Davedavids, where do you get water? Do you have watermaker?
@@LIVE_AT_FULL_SAILS we have indeed a water maker onboard, but if you don't you can always pull into a port or fuel station and get some water.
@@davedavids9619 ...but in ports will charge you for water during high season, or not? Till now I never got it for free, there was always someone there or even no free tap. If you took it a canister or two on petrol station I guess it is duable, but if you want 600 liters, it will take you at least half an hour to do it and if there is a line of boats behind you.. Maybe if you do it simultaniously, but you need much more water than diesel, so ...
@@LIVE_AT_FULL_SAILS it is a matter of timing mostly. During day time you can always come into a port or marina for some water. Not all water is good water however, so be aware that you cannot drink that water, it is just for showering, toilet and for cooking if you first boil the water for about 5 min. During the morning hours, after everybody leaves there is enough time to come in, top up the tanks and leave again. If you have 600, 1000 or 1500 liters onboard you should be able to last for a few days. So planning your stops for water is a good idea. Yes, you will have to pay for the water, sometimes they charge 1 euro per 100 ltr or even 2 euro per 100 ltr, but that is still cheaper than paying 200 euro for a night in a marina. And if the fuel station has water as well you just take the water while you take the fuel. If you have to drag out the fuel stop you just use a slower flow rate. But also in fuel stations there are slow times, usually Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday there aren't that many clients and if there are it is only at the end of the day. We were just last week in Brbinj (Dugi Otok) and there was a water connection on the municipal quay. If you are familiar with Navily you will know that they always state if you can get water there or not.
@davedavids9619 thank you. I will really check in Navily. For now, the only place where I could get free water, was Greece. Or almost free, lets say Poros for 4 EUR, Serifos for 10 EUR for staying over night, and even for free in Monemvasia.
Very nice presentation. Croatia is too crowdy and too expensive for me thou.
It really is!
@TheNatkica, if you would go to the not so standard places, go outside of the main high season (mid July - end of August) you will find it is much quieter and you can still have complete anchorages to yourself. But in order to do that you will have to say goodbye to the standard places like Bol, Hvar city, Solta, Skradin, Zadar, Vis, Dubrovnik etc.
As an example, we could have stayed in the marinas in Dubrovnik back in June when we arrived. Would have costed us 150 euro for a night. Instead we went 10 min North to a place called Zaton, anchored for free and the scenery was more beautiful than the marina in Dubrovnik. We still made it into the old town of Dubrovnik, just paid much less.
Very nice video. We have been close to you in Paklina bay. We stay there for two weeks. Very nice calm place.
Thank you. Were you there in summer aswell?
@@LIVE_AT_FULL_SAILS yes. Our boat was next to your boat ( side to side). Look at part in stari grad. The double mast boat. We spent a lot of time on boat. In Stari Grad we anchored twice for almost 3 weeks.
I see it now and really can't believe it. What a coincidence. I'm very happy about it. I remember you well, I always check ketch boats, I'm a great fan of Amel (because of the Delos I believe :))
Are you still on boat now? On saturday I'm going on another sailing week in the same area, hoping for some real wind this time. And on monohull, which I like more. They are more pristine :)
@@LIVE_AT_FULL_SAILSNot now. Its a week that i left the boat. But surely i will come on boat in a short time. We are thinking to participate on Jabuka regatta, just for fun.
I took my experiences as sailed solo from Amsterdam to Mallorca by ocean and then drive multi types of boats ( catamarans, sailing, power,RIB) in multi charter companies and living in boat full time day and night .and have more than 7000 nm
@Ilia777kh Where and how do You find work as a skipper or crew?
@@LIVE_AT_FULL_SAILS I am captain qualified with master of Yacht commercial 200GT
Malta, Ibiza formentera
I speak English French Arabic, Maltese greek
@@Ilia777kh Uff, you are much more qualified as I am.... I do skippering as a hobby, or maybe as a side job if I get the opportunity
@@LIVE_AT_FULL_SAILS sailing why cause life on the water is better, yes me too free to do what and when I want
Tipičen turističen(terorističen) charter vijađ. Sam nikoli ne izbiram teh destinacij, in tudi sicer me ne vidijo med 15.7-15.8. Je pa res, da imam lastniško, in sem sam svoj skiper. Ampak razumem, s takšnimi krompirčki na barki, drugače tudi ne gre. Upam da si jim dobro zaračunal😅. Luštn video, dobri posnetki z drončkom.
Tudi osebno se teh terminov izogibam na Hrvaškem zaradi gneče, v Grčiji pa zaradi vročine. Ampak je kot praviš, drugače, če o plovbi odločaš sam. S posnetki z dronom pa prav nikoli nisem povsem zadovoljen... Ko delam montažo, prav vedno še manjka kak kader 🤣
Pa hvala za pozitiven komentar 👍
Hallo, is it allowed to use shorlines in HR?
It is not allowed. But in main season you won't find a bay without many boats with shorelines
It is not allowed, but it is not forbidden either. In practice this means that the waterway must not be obstructed with a long line of the anchored boat which is tied to the shore. That can be a danger to smaller vessels that pass there at night.
Ovce zbog vune oko glave ne vide pase ovčare u vidu zakonske regulacije i novca. Turisti su ionako ovce, a ovce triba šišat.
I was there first week of May 2024. Indeed almost nobody.
I just finished week sailing trip in Croatia... madness how many boats still...
Mestre, nisu Pakleni otoci nego su Paklinski…po paklini-smoli…i zabranjeno je vezati se kopno za drvece i stijene ( pomorsko dobro ) od sljedece sezone ce se takvo vezivanje drasticno kaznjavati….
I know about the name of Paklin's islands (Paklinski), but even croatian people has problems with correct pronounciation.
About tie to the rocks I'm aware of it, but sometimes there is no other way.
@@skippy-rj5jd pa to je okej. Uvik se moš vezat sa sidrom na krmu. Okačit ga negdje di dobro stoji oko skale.
Should use the word Motoring and not sailing as 2 hours sailing over ten days is not sailing
It wasn't even two hours. And I believe ''cruising'' or even ''konoba hunting'' would probably be more appropriate term. But almost everyone calls this ''sailing'' and with other terms video wouldn't get your attention 🤷♂😉
stopped watching after 30 sec of this terrible english ..very irritating .
I wonder how your Slovene sounds like 🤣
And thank you for your opinion, who cares 190 😉
@@LIVE_AT_FULL_SAILS these are typical trolls looking for attention and reaction. Just block them and hide them form your channel is the best approach so they don't infect the vibes or just ignore them. I think your video is good and very informative. Thank you for posting it.
@@mvakleko Thank you for your opinion and advice 👍👍👍