Gotta say, Stranglehold genuinely looks like a hell of a lot of fun. If they could’ve made a sequel with the budget you mentioned… Remedy would have stiff competition.
Funny story: me and my friend are massive fans of Chow Yun Fat so when we saw a copy of Stranglehold in a store, it was the last one. We had to resolve it by flipping a coin to see who is gonna buy it. Gotta say I was lucky my copy still stands on the shelf.
I found the last copy of the PC version too! It was dirt cheap in the clearance bin at a store here in Dubai, way back in like 2012 or something, had an absolute blast playing it but could not progress beyond the seaside sheds level since I was just a kid. I gave it to my friend to install when he was looking for something to play, he lost it. #goodtimes
such a fun game it never gets old because you could do 1 mission in a million different ways with how many interact able objects there were and situations. I felt like I was filming a movie and doing different takes everytime I restarted the last checkpoint
@@achildnamedhotchick1739 Yeah, that's the thing that kind of gets missed with the review. The big point of Stranglehold was that they were trying to make you feel like you were directing and playing in a John Woo film, so they went out of their way to focus on the set pieces, destruction, and interactions. It's much more of an arcade-style shoot-em-up than anything else. It's far from perfect, but those couple of chapters that are all about the things you can shoot to hurt enemies is fantastic. I do think they could have done much more with the story, added co-op, or a lot of other things, but like the review said a sequel was planned and then canned. What might have been...
I remember Yahtzee saying, in one of his LDOs, that the Devs reached out to him after his 'Wet' review. The publisher gave them the prototype of the game they got from some unknown team and gave them less than a year to finish it. That's why it's in such a bad rushed state.
So basically, the devs were still being treated as grunts who would pump out games on short notice, just like when they were creating licensed shovelware
It was to be expected. Nobody sets out to make a bad game on purpose, especially with a publisher behind. There's a story behind every bad game, and it's usually something to this extent.
Double Action: Boogaloo is a multiplayer spin on Max Payne mechanic and boy it is one of the most fun source base indie shooter I have ever play, it certainly my favorite MP clone for that reason alone
I remember when my older brother first got stranglehold. He was so excited to show me the slow motion shooting mechanics. I used to watch him play for hours waiting for him to go to sleep so I could play as well. Definitely in my top 10 still.
I was actually a little surprised that Wanted: Weapons of Fate didn't make the list, but then again that game seems to have just disappeared from all records. With this video, I have officially heard more people talk about Wet than I have Wanted. I won't say Wanted is the best thing ever, but I thought it was a hell of a lot better than Wet. This one you might actually enjoy because as silly as it is, curving bullets never stops being fun for me, especially since once you're good at it you can pull them off in rapid succession.
holy shit you re right, i used to like that game because you felt so badass, and that plane section was always a highlight. Only thing i hated were those sniper sections.
My God! I'd completely forgotten about Wanted. I remember having a heap of fun with that game - the bullet curve felt good to use. That being said, I wonder how good it actually was. Because I also had great fun with Stranglehold and Wet too: but I was a kid for all of them.
@@CarterPresentsComics Of course I can say it. I'm not going to say it was the best game ever, but just because a developer goes under doesn't mean the games they made were bad. History is littered with devs who made terrific games that just didn't sell well.
did the demo give you a nookie too?? lolz why ya hitting yourself, why ya hitting yourself? I just picture the demo as some HS bully now lolz never played stranglehold demo or full game eh
I remember a friend of mine used to be obsessed with Wet before and during release. He changed his Xbox picture to it, talked about it a lot etc. etc. then once the game actually came out and he played it all that suddenly stopped. Seeing you talk about that game made me think of that and it just made me laugh. He did the same thing with Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X now that I think about it.
34:44 THERE IT IS AGAIN IM GOING CRAZY -Noodles "Need for Speed" (i can be anywhere) -Funke "Concept Albums" (light into water reflections) -Mandalore "Marathon" (we all have a real first floor) -Leon Massey "Life and death of skateboarding games" (the turtels hiding in the shells) -Punk Duck "How to Monster Hunter Rise" (the turtels hiding in the shells) -JFJ "Fun is fun 24" (rats in cages) -Brendaniel "the mtn Dew review" (it dwells within crystal) and counting
I only saw Noodle’s version but I’m also curious. Is this just a meme someone started and the rest followed, or are we looking at some collaboration of some sort.
You should try Chilli Con Carnage! Its strips away the unnecessary stuff and is a BIT more focused on buildings meter but you dont get tokens as easily anymore~
@@FemboyJoe Got chili com carnage and yeah ngl jts super fun a bit funner than TO even shame they dropped the open world but the crazier bosses was welcome
@@FemboyJoe CCC is one of the most underrated psp games and rare to find a physical copy nowadays, the gameplay is better than in total overdose because of the headshots was easier to do, it has the same amazing soundtrack that just feels badass to listen when you shoot. The only problem is the game was shorter than total overdose.
@@CaptainEggcellent Oh I see, I probably shouldve understood that too, since you mentoined the budget^^ Agreed, I think it was one of the most expensive games at the time when it got released. And even then it had to make cuts in content, and the consoles couldnt really deal with the graphics and physics... The PC port also wasnt great with that FoV and graphics bugs. Had those even back then playing the demo. Not exactly a recipe for success.
I honestly still love Wet. Despite all its flaws of which you listed. Its something that felt unique for the first half but uninspired in the later sections. If it got a nice proper remake with all issues fixed.... orgasm.
maaan, im at the point where he talks about stranglehold and i was wondering if WET is gonna be on the list (i am also wondering the same about Deadpool). I LOOOVED WET, got it on the day it came out for the PS3, i believe a friend of mine even preordered 2 copies for me and him and just brought it to me on his way from work, we played at my place 12 hours straight, till 4 in the morning, next day we did the same, and went on for 14 days just like that every day. Everytime i look at my shelf and see the game box im sad my ps3 dont work anymore, gonna get me another one, i miss that game, it was one of the few games i really loved and mainly WET has 2 things done really really well, the gunplay loop and the soundtrack, those 2 things really make a unique game even tho its considered a clone, for me WET was easily one of the most fun i had with videogames ever
YES. Such an underrated sub-genre, and it's great to see people acknowledge Total Overdoses existence! Absolute shame TO2 never got off the ground, an open-world game set in a Condensed pocket-sized Mexico for the 360/PS3 generation would have been badass. Also worth noting how Stranglehold even launched on the Xbox at all considering how batshit bonkers the visuals and destruction was, the janked FOV and FPS drops feel trivial when it shouldn't have been running at all on such aging hardware. I'm genuinely curious how the devs managed to pull it off under the hood.
@@ПавелПовх-з3у I figured everyone knew I meant 360 considering it's Stranglehold, should have better clarified then. In a way, it wasn't exactly the major tech-overhaul devs were expecting as it was only a marginal increase in hardware compared to PC GPU's that already doubled the rendering power of the 360 a year after it launched in 2005.
@@scarlettNET And that makes sense, I remember playing it at the time of release and wondered why It felt like I was playing it through the depth perception of a soup can compared to Gears of War.
Total Overdose was the first game ever to give me a headache. There was something about this game graphics that made my head hurt after playing for a while. Never before and never again I had experienced anything like this from the game.
I'd completely forgotten that WET existed until this video, but looking back on it I think I mostly enjoyed it for what it was. The style and acrobatics were awesome and I loved Rubi's design. Would love to see a better funded and more experienced team do another take on it.
the "standoffs" in "stranglehold" dont look dumb though, lol, they look like that one scene in EVERY gun-fu movie where the MC just dodges bullets for no reason other than "because they are THAT badass", it 100% fits in with the "no reloading" gun-fu action movie asthetic the game has going for it..
15:40 there's another reason why he doesn't reload in Stranglehold, that's because his character doesn't reload in Hard Boiled either. You see him load guns before a fire fight, but during fire fights, no matter how many bullets he fires, he never reloads. John Woo said he does this on purpose because 'reloading slows down the action scene' lol =) Also your issues with the Style of WET (gameplay issues, nailed it) seem to come more from a lack of experience with the conventions they are trying to ape, bad sound due to a terrible sound system in the cinema, adverts that have no connection to the movie you are watching, the overall interruptions in a cinema experience, for example; when I was a boy, my local cinema, no matter the film (U to 18) or it's length, would always have an intermission so they could sell you ice cream and chocolate from a confectionery girl who would walk to the front of the cinema, and these intermission weren't well placed, ever. The thing with WET is all 'style over substance' but you gotta like the style to begin with to gloss over the lack of substance lol. I enjoy WET for what it is, does that make a good game, no, a game worthy of defending, maybe.
I don't know, the "it's just part of the style" thing seems like an excuse to me - it's one thing to make the audio a little tinny and filtered to sound like a bad cinema's speaker system, it's another to make some sections ear-bleedingly loud.
34:40 to 34:57 This bit is in so many different videos that are done by such wildly varying youtubers and now even you. At this point it's such a layered mystery that i don't even want to know what it is anymore
You can really tell when a game was designed with analog movement in mind, and they just slapped it on a keyboard's digital input with no tweaking whatsoever, resulting in that jittery animation without frames in between. Really makes you appreciate the original Splinter Cell from 2002.
I haven’t even started the video but I have to say this. John Woo’s Stranglehold is the best Hong Kong action game ever imo. Max Payne is good don’t get me wrong, but that series always felt more like The Matrix with its emphasis on dodging enemy shots. Stranglehold however is just pure stylish destruction, feeling more like The Killer and Hard Boiled. It’s like both games are on two opposite ends of the third person bullet time spectrum.
Seems like he didn't give it a fair shake and tried to compare it too heavily against Max Payne. It's a game about dumb fun, and aside from the 2nd mission it's a lot of fun and worth a few playthroughs due to it's short length. And I would very much argue the levels are memorable.
The Punisher clip immediately took me back to its game which was surprisingly good and while without bullet time it still has more common with Max Payne than most of listed here.
Total Overdose is definitely one of my favorites on the PS2. I did replay it recently through GOG, and it certainly does not live up to memory. Still love it though.
I remember really thinking WET had charm that I wish came out a little more, but this vid reminds me of the things I thought back then. I know it won't hold up now, but man I'd like to see it given another chance. Rubi's definitely cool and honestly, I reckon Eliza Dushku probably has the free time.
I think 10.000 bullets could be considerate a Max Payne clone. It came out in Europe and Japan for the PS2. Its kinda clunky, but it features stylish characters designs, different characters with each feature its unique play style and amazing jazz music. Super worth checking out
i love total overdose because it's the literal opposite tonally. Also fun fact there was a really ambitious proper sequel (not the rehash on psp) in the works until the devs went bust.
I can wait 5 or even 10 years for a Raycevick upload because once it drops, it's sheer quality over quantity. Thanks, always much appreciate what you do.
Another banger Ray! Honestly growing up I loved Max Payne, Strangehold and Total Overdose - the latter’s simplicity was actually something I enjoyed as kid/teen because the action was so consistent. Max Payne 3 was arguably the last saviour of this sub genre of shooters. Tried playing Wet a couple of years ago mom PS Now and I couldn’t get in to it (especially with the awful control lag on ps now) - again the aesthetic and action is cool though! Strangehold still has the best destruction though, hands down.
I'll be honest, seeing these type of forgotten mediocre games getting break down with logic criticism really breaks my heart a bit because I really love these kind of games (the kind of games that people would call them as a clone, like games that inspired by gta or max payne). sure in a lot of aspects of these games it's always lacks of something that's makes them remarkable like good writing, balance gameplay and good design (which is maybe why these games were being forgotten) but I really love the style that these games have over their substance. I'll say that could be just my huge love for guilty pleasure or maybe I always growing up with a brain of edgy cringey 15 years old boy.
yeah, i think it doesnt make sense for such harsh criticism since they not new games and they not fighting for your "70 bucks". i mean, ofc he shouldnt aviod drawbacks, but there should be more emphasis on what makes them hidden gems and why you should try them. in fact, i think he specifically choosed those 3 games since they are truly amazing hidden gems. cus, you know, there exists also some actually really bad max payne clones games
@@notmus I was talking from the perspective of normal people, maybe they're just gonna see it as mediocre old games at best. but if you ask ME, of course these games is a fucking masterpiece. I still can't find todays modern games that has such a fun over the top shooting mechanic like Total Overdose or Stranglehold. it even inspired me to wanna make my own 2000's style over the top shooting games too :)
@@synthnation9857 You're right, i think there will never be another game like Total overdose or stranglehold in this age, those games were designed to be fun and didn't fail. Some people just have too high standards nowadays and only care about the graphics and details.
It's on steam, actually. Played it a few years ago as it needed a bit of work-arounds to get it up and running on new hardware. It has a weird size-disecrepancy between people and the vehicle models found on the streets, they feel like 25% smaller then their real counterparts while people are of average size so the pickup trucks and vans seem like toys, it's weird.
This video feels tailor made to my interests and I love it Also your cameo in the Marathon Infinity video by Mandalore was fantastic. Holy shit someone else remembers Amped 3
I must have played through Total Overdose at least 5 times when I was a teenager with a potato PC back in 06~07, those were the days. Not gonna lie, you may not have liked it but it remains one of my most cherished games, forger rose tinted glasses, they're breaking bad "Mexico yellow filter" tinted ones.
For some reason I remember Total Overdose as a masterpieces. I remember having a lot of fun in that game and wondered why they didn't make a 2nd part. It makes sense now why there was never a sequel. Thanks for covering that game up.
Theres was no sequel for the reason that the company closed down, they was planning to make a sequel but is cancelled for that reason, very sad because the sequel would be so good on ps3 and 360. Total overdose is still a masterpiece.
Max Payne 3 is my all time favorite 3rd person shooter, it just feels perfect. I truly think it's the best 3rd person shooter you can get while also mostly adhering to realism. The way max moves in that game and his shoot dodges are always orgasmic, when he jumps to about shoulder or head height down a flight of stairs taking out 10 guys before he hits the ground and grunts from landing from so high and then slides down the rest of the stairs to lay down on the landing to shoot the last remaining enemies before getting up. Chefs kiss
It's one of the most detailed games ever made, the weapon models alone are insanely well-detailed and the use of a freeze-frame pause menu that works as a photo mode; genius. I think my favourite things about it were the entry and exit wounds on enemies when shot, and the way Max manages his 3 gun limit by holding the weapons realistically when he has a free-hand, and dropping the primary when he goes John Woo with two-pistols.
@@takoshihitsamaru4675 totally agree. Rockstar really captured lightning in a bottle with that game. It's a shame it's not on modern consoles and doesn't have a remaster or remake yet
@@sygyzy0933 I'd love to see the first two games remade in that engine. They are in the works, but we've no way of knowing if they end up going that Max Payne 3 route or not. Still, would like to see a 4th game all the same, even if we have to go back to his past again. 3 really doesn't leave room narratively for another game.
@@PatricTheSpartian It's kind of a post-Max Payne game. And in that regard, it's written perfectly. It's the long aftermath of a traumatic past, it's seeing how Max is going long after the events of 1 and 2. It still haunts him, so he tries to drown it out with other ventures.
I'm wondering if gaming would be very different today if the presentation trend during 2008-2012 shifted towards the dark but insane adventures, artstyle, stories and characters that were popular on the internet's underground like Alice Madness Returns, Ghost in The Shell, Max Payne and Persona and more instead of the mainstream obvious presentation that was spearded by Call of Duty and Far Cry. I think the reason games like Wet grab a cult following just by its character design and concept is because there is very rarely any media with a big budget following those inspirations. Be it movie or game.
I gotta say, as someone who never saw WET before, Rubi's design strikes me of Ryuko Matoi from Kill La Kill, post high-school. And I mean it as a compliment to the game's protagonist.
All 3 games here are super underrated and cool. Max Payne and especially its sequels always were one of my favorite games of all time. I played Total Overdose when I was around 10-12, as someone from eastern Europe it was my first introduction to Mexican culture and everything around it. Loved it probably more, than San Andreas lol (and SA is awesome). Such a style. Stranglehold was one of the first games I got for my new PC and I clearly remember one thing - destructability. At its time if felt incredible, but with games like Gears of War 2 and Red Faction Guerilla not very long down the line made me completely forget about it. Wet is just pure fun. Love Kill Bill and it really sometimes make you feel like reliving scenes from these movies. Was very excited to discover a few years ago it was made by BHVR who also did Dead by Daylight which I played for 1.5k hours lol.
I can forgive Strangehold a lot, it is easily the best game out of this bunch and I do think it has plenty of variety to keep itself fun for its run time, even though it is shooting with very limited weaponry I think a lot of it is still enjoyable. I think you actually avoided the worst Max Payne clone by far, and that was El Matadaro. That game, if I recall, does not have bullets as projectiles but as hit-scan, yet it still has bullet-time, it plays absoltuely awfully.
Oh man, I thought I was the only one who remembered El Matador. Yeah, it was a weird game, but for some reason my 14-year-old self couldn't stop playing it.
Nobody needs your forgiveness.Total Overdose and Strangehold are game of their owns.No need to call them Max Payne clones cause this so called rayvick youtuber said so.Those games did so many things better than Max Payne games in terms of action and combat.Saying those game copied Max Payne is like saying all open world games are gta clone.
I always LOVED Total Overdose. That killer soundtrack and setting was a big selling point. Lot of great moments in that game backed by Delinquent Habits and Molotov.
I'll be honest, I haven't played any of these games, but this has been a great video. Been a fan of your work for a while. Well-structured videos with a nice balance of humour. Nice work.
I saw the ZP video on Wet back in the day and, loving the style of the concept art, played the demo. I could not for the life of me get into it - I remember feeling like there was something there that I was supposed to "get", but couldn't. I haven't heard a thing about it since. I do wish a developer with good means and a consistent vision could take the artbook and make something great out of it. Great video.
Absolutely loved this video, great job! I love the Max Payne games and have been streaming them and Stranglehold recently. I still have Total Overdose somewhere so will have to get back to it too.
Had a dev talk in 2012 on a Game Dev Camp with the lead writer of the Hitman games Morten Iversen and I don't know the connection but he talked about Total Overdose and how the dev team was devastated that Sands of Time came out before them because the mechanic had been done and implemented for more then a year at that point. He even had a prototype from another game that was cancelled with him and we all got to try it. That game was "Recoil: Retrograd" and was developed by hes closed company Zeitguys.
Ask and Reycevick you shall receive no seriously, it is such a curious thing to witness months of drout just see your beloved youtubers uploading good stuff merely weeks apart. Love your videos chief, the voice, the production value, its a sight for the eyes, a melody for the ears and a banquet for thought
@@johankaruyan5536 if it is a secondary channel fine but i've never seen a circle V logo at the end of a user name, to me it looks like someone is impersonating Raycevick and look how whatever they posted got deleted?? now I probably shouldn't have done this but I checked the profile and they have 1 video and sure enough that V logo is a emoji of some kind and not a check mark identifying verified.... the bots on here have been weird for a few months now and this latest shit with the PS5 scam is annoying as all hell and I bet that's what the comment was you win a PS5.....it's probably some POS scalper parading as someone else, some people have no honor it seems.... i hate telemarketers, i hate scammers, i hate hackers and I seriously hate fakers and posers.....
@@johankaruyan5536 and now the fukker changed his name my deduction was 100% correct!!! fukking poser!!! @Heinz Doofenshmirtz 🅥 ^this fukker when i posted originally had his name as @Raycevick 🅥 and he sniped the profile pic which he now changed what a loser!!!
My most prominent memory with stranglehold was playing it with my brother when we were much younger, and we did the spin attack with the rocket launcher. It must've been some sort of developer oversight, because it was so bizarre and hilarious watching this guy spin around all dramatically and fire this slow firing weapon like a machine gun, and it still somehow mowing down everyone in the room.
I loved WET a lot, but the criticism is pretty justified. My real disappointment is how no one ever talks about it, to say the game lacks a fanbase is a bit of an understatement
lmao edit: wasn't there a source (or goldsrc) mod that took this jump dive shoot third person style gameplay many years ago and was quite popular? I understand it was pretty good - probably lacks the epic story though
I cannot express how much i LOVED WET. I bought it for the PS3 not knowing anything about it but was so surprised how fun it was. I'm going to go find it and play it again.
Same. I had no clue what to expect going into it and ended up loving it. So much damn fun. I get his issues in the video but idk, just never bothered me. The aesthetic of the game, the combat, etc all just seemed to hit very very well for me.
@@fenrirsrage4609 when he listed all of the "bloated" features of Total Overdose, I was consistently asking mysefl "wtf is wrong about that?" it all sounds like an insanely fun time even with all the flaws.
Max Payne 3 multiplayer was highly underrated. I max leveled that game and loved every second. The vendetta system was awesome, not just that there was a taunt button to talk shit while you were fighting without doing a pose and all that like in most games. Stranglehold is a excellent game and blew me away when i played the 360 demo. I also found it on gog for cheap.
Underrated? The Multiplayer sucked ass imo lol. Look at all these weapons & perks but 90% of them are useless, combined with a dumb ass grind for unlocking them (RIP newbies). Much preferred Double Action Boogaloo in every aspect.
@@BDozer666 I always lean towards games Im good at and max paine 3 online was one of the games I was best at. That and another hated game called battlefield hardline. I was ranked 7th for most kills with the ACWR, goes to show how little people played it back then it was enough but not like call of duty numbers of people. I'll always be biased towards games I'm awesome at and I agree the grind was ridiculous. Took so long to unlock everything way to long.
Dearly love all of these, wouldn't mind more games like this. Hope that after the boomer shooter indie revival we'll get Max Payne inspired 3rd person shooters.
Your initial Max Payne video made me get into the games, bought all 3 Max Payne games on Steam, the only true games that make me feel like Neo/John Wick
@@Desmond9100 was just thinking about sleeping dogs! Loved that game but felt the gunplay was the weakest part. Would absolutely love a sequel though…would even play a remake just for the pork buns!! 🤣
@@morkgin2459 I did still enjoy the gunplay but the hand to hand was so good I think it was totally overshadowed. That and having just played through the whole of the uncharted series beforehand. I think if I’d played sleeping dogs on the prev Hagen when it came out I wouldn’t be so hard on the gunplay
Total Overdose was the bomb back in 2007 for me. Having no PC at home, I had to learn how to bypass the admin lock in the several cyber cafes near home so I could install it from my flash drive. Plenty of times my save got corrupted but had plenty of fun in the meantime. The nostalgia...
Thanks for the great videos as always man, check out "el matador" released in 2006, besides stranglehold it's the probably the closest in terms of tone to Max Payne.
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Oh hey, thanks for the shout out. I really appreciate it, dude.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
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@@baller42061 Do you enjoy being wrong?
@@romainvicta117 I am in your house
In an alternate universe these games would be awesome, so people would call them paynekillers
It is awesome tho
HOLY SHIT yes
That name is fuckin genius!! I'm going to refer to that genre as that from now on
Paynesouls
they are awesome
@@butterscotch5680 Agreeed
Gotta say, Stranglehold genuinely looks like a hell of a lot of fun. If they could’ve made a sequel with the budget you mentioned… Remedy would have stiff competition.
Played it in 2007. This game was pure fun. A sequel would be nice.
The fov sucks ass though.
it was
actually such a fun game, i wish it was backwards compatible on xbox, i still have a physical copy
@@yatoob though the band made fun music
Funny story: me and my friend are massive fans of Chow Yun Fat so when we saw a copy of Stranglehold in a store, it was the last one. We had to resolve it by flipping a coin to see who is gonna buy it. Gotta say I was lucky my copy still stands on the shelf.
Hope it was the ps3 version, that has the movie in the disc
I found the last copy of the PC version too! It was dirt cheap in the clearance bin at a store here in Dubai, way back in like 2012 or something, had an absolute blast playing it but could not progress beyond the seaside sheds level since I was just a kid. I gave it to my friend to install when he was looking for something to play, he lost it. #goodtimes
Stranglehold was one of my favorite one-off non-AAA games for 360 as a kid. The destruction is still really impressive even today. Loved it
such a fun game it never gets old because you could do 1 mission in a million different ways with how many interact able objects there were and situations. I felt like I was filming a movie and doing different takes everytime I restarted the last checkpoint
@@achildnamedhotchick1739 Yeah, that's the thing that kind of gets missed with the review. The big point of Stranglehold was that they were trying to make you feel like you were directing and playing in a John Woo film, so they went out of their way to focus on the set pieces, destruction, and interactions. It's much more of an arcade-style shoot-em-up than anything else. It's far from perfect, but those couple of chapters that are all about the things you can shoot to hurt enemies is fantastic. I do think they could have done much more with the story, added co-op, or a lot of other things, but like the review said a sequel was planned and then canned. What might have been...
alot of the cons that he mentioned about stranglehold max payne 3 has aswell
Stranglehold was AAA though (although their studio doesnt exist anymore), so not sure why you called it "non-AAA".............
Running on banisters and sliding on tables was good fun
I’ve played lots and lots of Total Overdose in childhood. Brings back fun memories
Thats the point. Total Overdose is all about fun. Love this game.
I had it as a kid too for PSP, but it was called Chili Con Carnage??
I remember Yahtzee saying, in one of his LDOs, that the Devs reached out to him after his 'Wet' review. The publisher gave them the prototype of the game they got from some unknown team and gave them less than a year to finish it. That's why it's in such a bad rushed state.
So basically, the devs were still being treated as grunts who would pump out games on short notice, just like when they were creating licensed shovelware
It's depressing how unsurprising that revelation is
It was to be expected. Nobody sets out to make a bad game on purpose, especially with a publisher behind. There's a story behind every bad game, and it's usually something to this extent.
I thought the demo of Wet was pretty fun, but I didn’t get the full game based on Yahtzees review
@@aidenp6001 "shovelware" lol
Not having to reload in Stranglehold is a in-joke for those who've seen Hard Boiled.
Double Action: Boogaloo is a multiplayer spin on Max Payne mechanic and boy it is one of the most fun source base indie shooter I have ever play, it certainly my favorite MP clone for that reason alone
Thanks! I can't believe im just learnimg about this now
A true spiritual successor to The Specialists (Half-Life) mod. TS is dead by now but it was fun back in the day.
lol yeah that game is fuego despite being insanely janky
@@andrewhudson7108 man that game was the best
@@andrewhudson7108 I remember the specialists
I remember when my older brother first got stranglehold. He was so excited to show me the slow motion shooting mechanics. I used to watch him play for hours waiting for him to go to sleep so I could play as well. Definitely in my top 10 still.
I've played max payne for the first time in 2019-2020, and it felt like a brand new game.
I was actually a little surprised that Wanted: Weapons of Fate didn't make the list, but then again that game seems to have just disappeared from all records. With this video, I have officially heard more people talk about Wet than I have Wanted. I won't say Wanted is the best thing ever, but I thought it was a hell of a lot better than Wet. This one you might actually enjoy because as silly as it is, curving bullets never stops being fun for me, especially since once you're good at it you can pull them off in rapid succession.
holy shit you re right, i used to like that game because you felt so badass, and that plane section was always a highlight. Only thing i hated were those sniper sections.
No way with a straight face did you say that Wanted game was better than Wet. 😂 Yeah that game was so good the company went under 😂
My God! I'd completely forgotten about Wanted.
I remember having a heap of fun with that game - the bullet curve felt good to use.
That being said, I wonder how good it actually was. Because I also had great fun with Stranglehold and Wet too: but I was a kid for all of them.
@@TheNighmare1 Yeah, the plane level was just awesome. I actually liked the sniping, but the occasional terret section was the lowest point for me.
@@CarterPresentsComics Of course I can say it. I'm not going to say it was the best game ever, but just because a developer goes under doesn't mean the games they made were bad. History is littered with devs who made terrific games that just didn't sell well.
The Stranglehold demo on the 360 had me in a headlock for like 3 months. That’s a memory that I repressed until this video.
same haha
did the demo give you a nookie too?? lolz
why ya hitting yourself, why ya hitting yourself? I just picture the demo as some HS bully now lolz never played stranglehold demo or full game eh
Same. I think I got it from an EGM and it was a ton of fun replaying it and becoming a god.
Yup! I had same experience but with PS3.
I guess you could say it had a... stranglehold on you
I worked on stranglehold, it was alot of fun to work on. I have some dev footage of the FX made on it
I remember a friend of mine used to be obsessed with Wet before and during release. He changed his Xbox picture to it, talked about it a lot etc. etc. then once the game actually came out and he played it all that suddenly stopped. Seeing you talk about that game made me think of that and it just made me laugh. He did the same thing with Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X now that I think about it.
I feel bad for him
@@voodoo2006 I don't, he later became an ass.
Who amongst us hasnt bought a game with their dick before?
Tbf, the game had real style behind all the shit
I remember replaying the demo for Stranglehold over and over again because the bullet time was so fun
Yeh I also did the same! Always wanted to play the full game but never got round to it! 😔
@@Yiyan81 Was a fun game for what it was. The destructible environments were impressive and made me wish Max Payne was like that too
glad im not the only one
L + RAYTio
Damn shame about Wet. From the character design, style, and animations, it looks like something I'd be 1,000% into if it was well executed.
You should still try it. It’s free on Ps Plus and you might be able to stomach it’s flaws, unlike this commentator here.
I never played it, but I bought it this year for my fat PS3.
Wet is actually a really fun game... I'd say its more of a Kill Bill clone made into a video game.
@@Rally351 Wait, it's free on PS Plus?
@@DaDualityofMan its on ps plus premium
34:44
THERE IT IS AGAIN
IM GOING CRAZY
-Noodles "Need for Speed" (i can be anywhere)
-Funke "Concept Albums" (light into water reflections)
-Mandalore "Marathon" (we all have a real first floor)
-Leon Massey "Life and death of skateboarding games" (the turtels hiding in the shells)
-Punk Duck "How to Monster Hunter Rise" (the turtels hiding in the shells)
-JFJ "Fun is fun 24" (rats in cages)
-Brendaniel "the mtn Dew review" (it dwells within crystal)
and counting
Can you elaborate, please?
@@LDVSoft All these youtubers have in their videos a similar sequence. Theme from Harry's Game over a spooky image with some text.
god I've been looking for anyone else to mention this.
I only saw Noodle’s version but I’m also curious. Is this just a meme someone started and the rest followed, or are we looking at some collaboration of some sort.
Maybe an editor doing an arg?
Playing max payne 1 in 2002, all alone at home was an experience that cannot be expressed in words!!
Max Payne 2 is one of my 5 favourite games of all time; I replay it each few years.
You've been missed my friend! Welcome back
@@recitationtohear no, it didn’t.
He doesnt even upload that frequently, I think this is normal
I remember playing total overdose during all of my childhood and absolutely loving it
You should try Chilli Con Carnage! Its strips away the unnecessary stuff and is a BIT more focused on buildings meter but you dont get tokens as easily anymore~
@@FemboyJoe Chile Con Carnage rules. It's probably my favorite PSP game
Same here tbh and it's disheartening seeing it get bashed unfairly.
@@FemboyJoe Got chili com carnage and yeah ngl jts super fun a bit funner than TO even shame they dropped the open world but the crazier bosses was welcome
@@FemboyJoe CCC is one of the most underrated psp games and rare to find a physical copy nowadays, the gameplay is better than in total overdose because of the headshots was easier to do, it has the same amazing soundtrack that just feels badass to listen when you shoot.
The only problem is the game was shorter than total overdose.
Stranglehold was great, but was doomed to fail with such an astronomical budget.
It didnt fail though, it was a good shooter with some flaws.
@@termitreter6545 sorry, I should have said financially fail. It was never going recoup its budget.
@@CaptainEggcellent Oh I see, I probably shouldve understood that too, since you mentoined the budget^^
Agreed, I think it was one of the most expensive games at the time when it got released. And even then it had to make cuts in content, and the consoles couldnt really deal with the graphics and physics...
The PC port also wasnt great with that FoV and graphics bugs. Had those even back then playing the demo.
Not exactly a recipe for success.
L + RAYTio
I remember total overdose being one of my first pc games, I still listen to the soundtrack from time to time
I honestly still love Wet. Despite all its flaws of which you listed. Its something that felt unique for the first half but uninspired in the later sections. If it got a nice proper remake with all issues fixed.... orgasm.
Me too. Yes, they just duct taped a janky Tomb Raider and Janky Max Payne together, but I felt the results was more than the sum of it's parts.
Honestly I kinda wish they'd make a sequel or spiritual successor to WET. It's got a lot of flaws but overall it's not totally terrible.
There's an upcoming game called wanted:dead gave me wet vibes. I'm kinda wanna see how will feels like once the game comes out
maaan, im at the point where he talks about stranglehold and i was wondering if WET is gonna be on the list (i am also wondering the same about Deadpool). I LOOOVED WET, got it on the day it came out for the PS3, i believe a friend of mine even preordered 2 copies for me and him and just brought it to me on his way from work, we played at my place 12 hours straight, till 4 in the morning, next day we did the same, and went on for 14 days just like that every day. Everytime i look at my shelf and see the game box im sad my ps3 dont work anymore, gonna get me another one, i miss that game, it was one of the few games i really loved and mainly WET has 2 things done really really well, the gunplay loop and the soundtrack, those 2 things really make a unique game even tho its considered a clone, for me WET was easily one of the most fun i had with videogames ever
I love Total Overdose so much, thanks for including it, definitely deserves more recognition.
How can i play that game on PC ?
@@TheMan-With-A-Plan the game is in GOG for a few bucks, or you can crack it but i do not recommend it many of them have malware or virus.
does he know?
YES. Such an underrated sub-genre, and it's great to see people acknowledge Total Overdoses existence! Absolute shame TO2 never got off the ground, an open-world game set in a Condensed pocket-sized Mexico for the 360/PS3 generation would have been badass. Also worth noting how Stranglehold even launched on the Xbox at all considering how batshit bonkers the visuals and destruction was, the janked FOV and FPS drops feel trivial when it shouldn't have been running at all on such aging hardware. I'm genuinely curious how the devs managed to pull it off under the hood.
It was on xbox 360, it was a bit over 1 year old at the time.
I think it has something to do with the FOV. It's probably a way to avoid rendering too much destruction stuff on screen at once.
@@ПавелПовх-з3у I figured everyone knew I meant 360 considering it's Stranglehold, should have better clarified then. In a way, it wasn't exactly the major tech-overhaul devs were expecting as it was only a marginal increase in hardware compared to PC GPU's that already doubled the rendering power of the 360 a year after it launched in 2005.
@@scarlettNET And that makes sense, I remember playing it at the time of release and wondered why It felt like I was playing it through the depth perception of a soup can compared to Gears of War.
Total Overdose was the first game ever to give me a headache. There was something about this game graphics that made my head hurt after playing for a while. Never before and never again I had experienced anything like this from the game.
I loved Total Overdose when I was a kid. Lol. That menu song was fire.
Return of the tress hell yes! The whole soundtrack was amazing, mind-blowing. One of the best soundtracks in video games.
Stranglehold is by far one of my favorite third person shooters. It’s just pure fun
I'd completely forgotten that WET existed until this video, but looking back on it I think I mostly enjoyed it for what it was. The style and acrobatics were awesome and I loved Rubi's design. Would love to see a better funded and more experienced team do another take on it.
Agreeed!
I only ever played the demo version but had fun with it
L + RAYTio
the "standoffs" in "stranglehold" dont look dumb though, lol, they look like that one scene in EVERY gun-fu movie where the MC just dodges bullets for no reason other than "because they are THAT badass", it 100% fits in with the "no reloading" gun-fu action movie asthetic the game has going for it..
L + RAYTio
@@TheJuhana are you having a stroke?
@@stapuft Yes
They do look dumb, they shoot him one at a time when they could all just shoot him at once like in ALL the normal shootouts in the rest of the game
Total Overdose is always a favorite of mine.
15:40 there's another reason why he doesn't reload in Stranglehold, that's because his character doesn't reload in Hard Boiled either. You see him load guns before a fire fight, but during fire fights, no matter how many bullets he fires, he never reloads. John Woo said he does this on purpose because 'reloading slows down the action scene' lol =)
Also your issues with the Style of WET (gameplay issues, nailed it) seem to come more from a lack of experience with the conventions they are trying to ape, bad sound due to a terrible sound system in the cinema, adverts that have no connection to the movie you are watching, the overall interruptions in a cinema experience, for example; when I was a boy, my local cinema, no matter the film (U to 18) or it's length, would always have an intermission so they could sell you ice cream and chocolate from a confectionery girl who would walk to the front of the cinema, and these intermission weren't well placed, ever. The thing with WET is all 'style over substance' but you gotta like the style to begin with to gloss over the lack of substance lol.
I enjoy WET for what it is, does that make a good game, no, a game worthy of defending, maybe.
L + RAYTio
I don't know, the "it's just part of the style" thing seems like an excuse to me - it's one thing to make the audio a little tinny and filtered to sound like a bad cinema's speaker system, it's another to make some sections ear-bleedingly loud.
Well said 👍
I actually not watched Hard Boiled. I know who John Woo is thanks to Mission Impossible 2
I think he also compared the guns to swords at some point.
34:40 to 34:57 This bit is in so many different videos that are done by such wildly varying youtubers and now even you. At this point it's such a layered mystery that i don't even want to know what it is anymore
You can really tell when a game was designed with analog movement in mind, and they just slapped it on a keyboard's digital input with no tweaking whatsoever, resulting in that jittery animation without frames in between. Really makes you appreciate the original Splinter Cell from 2002.
Yessssss
Saints Row 2 is likely the most egregious example.
shame its pc port was trash. The game ws fire, and the peak of the game.
I haven’t even started the video but I have to say this.
John Woo’s Stranglehold is the best Hong Kong action game ever imo. Max Payne is good don’t get me wrong, but that series always felt more like The Matrix with its emphasis on dodging enemy shots. Stranglehold however is just pure stylish destruction, feeling more like The Killer and Hard Boiled. It’s like both games are on two opposite ends of the third person bullet time spectrum.
Seems like he didn't give it a fair shake and tried to compare it too heavily against Max Payne. It's a game about dumb fun, and aside from the 2nd mission it's a lot of fun and worth a few playthroughs due to it's short length. And I would very much argue the levels are memorable.
Max Payne is a masterpiece. I will never be the same.
The past is a gaping hole
The impact of this game man. Even met a good internet buddy over a comments section because we both liked the game 😭
@@KH0LRA bro I wanna be friends with y'all too.
The Punisher clip immediately took me back to its game which was surprisingly good and while without bullet time it still has more common with Max Payne than most of listed here.
I only ever played the WET demo back in the day and it still resonates with me
Total Overdose is definitely one of my favorites on the PS2.
I did replay it recently through GOG, and it certainly does not live up to memory. Still love it though.
I remember really thinking WET had charm that I wish came out a little more, but this vid reminds me of the things I thought back then. I know it won't hold up now, but man I'd like to see it given another chance. Rubi's definitely cool and honestly, I reckon Eliza Dushku probably has the free time.
I remember enjoying WET enough, and the music was very catchy, but maybe it aged poorly, I don't know.
Rubi is a League of Legends champ now
That’s Ruby Rose from the anime “RWBY” you’re thinking of, not Ruby Malone from “Wet”; sorry buddy
In India, almost every gamer has played Total Overdose in his childhood.
Feels nostalgic. Would love to play it one more time.❤️
PSP version is completely different
I think 10.000 bullets could be considerate a Max Payne clone. It came out in Europe and Japan for the PS2. Its kinda clunky, but it features stylish characters designs, different characters with each feature its unique play style and amazing jazz music. Super worth checking out
It's basically Max Payne with the kung-fu mod, love it
I’ve always loved may Payne 2 the best. The rag doll effects were awesome with the bullet time
Yeah. Only GTA IV came up close to this level
i love total overdose because it's the literal opposite tonally. Also fun fact there was a really ambitious proper sequel (not the rehash on psp) in the works until the devs went bust.
You mean chilli con carnage right? This one was very fun too with the same good soundtrack and gameplay.
I can wait 5 or even 10 years for a Raycevick upload because once it drops, it's sheer quality over quantity. Thanks, always much appreciate what you do.
I remember scouring the internet for info on the WET soundtrack. I think I even emailed the composer/ppl who compiled it.
Did you ever find a full soundtrack list?
@@skycaptainshell1 No! Unfortunately.
I'd never thought I'd hear Raycevick say "Pendejo' in a Mexican accent, but here we are.
Another banger Ray!
Honestly growing up I loved Max Payne, Strangehold and Total Overdose - the latter’s simplicity was actually something I enjoyed as kid/teen because the action was so consistent. Max Payne 3 was arguably the last saviour of this sub genre of shooters. Tried playing Wet a couple of years ago mom PS Now and I couldn’t get in to it (especially with the awful control lag on ps now) - again the aesthetic and action is cool though!
Strangehold still has the best destruction though, hands down.
I'm disappointed you didn't cover El Matador, an obscure Czech shooter with very similar gameplay
And now you.
34:39 , you, Mandalore, FUNKe, and Noodle have each done -that- precise kind of cut, what does it mean, what am I missing?!
Someone on Mandy's videos mentioned it evoking "House of Leaves", but I don't get it either.
And it also feels like he is cutting part of the video cus it comes back in the middle of another sentence
Total overdose is great. Nostalgic
The best
Wish the company could finish Total overdose 2, the only sequel i really miss.
Stranglehold is one of the most underrated shooters of all time. Such a classic.
It wasn't a clone ether. MP was inspired by Hard Boiled, The true prequel to Strangle Hold.
I'll be honest, seeing these type of forgotten mediocre games getting break down with logic criticism really breaks my heart a bit because I really love these kind of games (the kind of games that people would call them as a clone, like games that inspired by gta or max payne). sure in a lot of aspects of these games it's always lacks of something that's makes them remarkable like good writing, balance gameplay and good design (which is maybe why these games were being forgotten) but I really love the style that these games have over their substance. I'll say that could be just my huge love for guilty pleasure or maybe I always growing up with a brain of edgy cringey 15 years old boy.
yeah, i think it doesnt make sense for such harsh criticism since they not new games and they not fighting for your "70 bucks". i mean, ofc he shouldnt aviod drawbacks, but there should be more emphasis on what makes them hidden gems and why you should try them.
in fact, i think he specifically choosed those 3 games since they are truly amazing hidden gems. cus, you know, there exists also some actually really bad max payne clones games
Mediocre? Are you alright? Total overdose is not even close to mediocre, is a masterpiece, same with stranglehold is a very fun shooting game.
@@notmus I was talking from the perspective of normal people, maybe they're just gonna see it as mediocre old games at best. but if you ask ME, of course these games is a fucking masterpiece. I still can't find todays modern games that has such a fun over the top shooting mechanic like Total Overdose or Stranglehold. it even inspired me to wanna make my own 2000's style over the top shooting games too :)
@@synthnation9857 You're right, i think there will never be another game like Total overdose or stranglehold in this age, those games were designed to be fun and didn't fail.
Some people just have too high standards nowadays and only care about the graphics and details.
@@synthnation9857 Also normal people were buying these games and playing them like kids who are now adults, some still remember these games like me.
I remember El Matador being a decent clone but I haven't touched since 2006. So my memories are probably keeping it in a nicer light.
It's actually runs on a modified max payne 2 engine too
It's on steam, actually. Played it a few years ago as it needed a bit of work-arounds to get it up and running on new hardware. It has a weird size-disecrepancy between people and the vehicle models found on the streets, they feel like 25% smaller then their real counterparts while people are of average size so the pickup trucks and vans seem like toys, it's weird.
i came to the video expecting el matador in it
It's garbage.
This video feels tailor made to my interests and I love it
Also your cameo in the Marathon Infinity video by Mandalore was fantastic.
Holy shit someone else remembers Amped 3
Amped 3 is the peak of human achievment.
Total Overdose, Stranglehold, Wet. Good times, I remember those
I must have played through Total Overdose at least 5 times when I was a teenager with a potato PC back in 06~07, those were the days. Not gonna lie, you may not have liked it but it remains one of my most cherished games, forger rose tinted glasses, they're breaking bad "Mexico yellow filter" tinted ones.
For some reason I remember Total Overdose as a masterpieces. I remember having a lot of fun in that game and wondered why they didn't make a 2nd part.
It makes sense now why there was never a sequel. Thanks for covering that game up.
Theres was no sequel for the reason that the company closed down, they was planning to make a sequel but is cancelled for that reason, very sad because the sequel would be so good on ps3 and 360. Total overdose is still a masterpiece.
@@notmus Oh, its a shame that they shut down. Have you played any of the other games made by them?
Max Payne 3 is my all time favorite 3rd person shooter, it just feels perfect. I truly think it's the best 3rd person shooter you can get while also mostly adhering to realism. The way max moves in that game and his shoot dodges are always orgasmic, when he jumps to about shoulder or head height down a flight of stairs taking out 10 guys before he hits the ground and grunts from landing from so high and then slides down the rest of the stairs to lay down on the landing to shoot the last remaining enemies before getting up. Chefs kiss
It's one of the most detailed games ever made, the weapon models alone are insanely well-detailed and the use of a freeze-frame pause menu that works as a photo mode; genius.
I think my favourite things about it were the entry and exit wounds on enemies when shot, and the way Max manages his 3 gun limit by holding the weapons realistically when he has a free-hand, and dropping the primary when he goes John Woo with two-pistols.
@@takoshihitsamaru4675 totally agree. Rockstar really captured lightning in a bottle with that game. It's a shame it's not on modern consoles and doesn't have a remaster or remake yet
@@sygyzy0933 I'd love to see the first two games remade in that engine. They are in the works, but we've no way of knowing if they end up going that Max Payne 3 route or not. Still, would like to see a 4th game all the same, even if we have to go back to his past again. 3 really doesn't leave room narratively for another game.
It's a shame it's not really a Max Payne game narratively.
@@PatricTheSpartian It's kind of a post-Max Payne game. And in that regard, it's written perfectly. It's the long aftermath of a traumatic past, it's seeing how Max is going long after the events of 1 and 2. It still haunts him, so he tries to drown it out with other ventures.
I'm wondering if gaming would be very different today if the presentation trend during 2008-2012 shifted towards the dark but insane adventures, artstyle, stories and characters that were popular on the internet's underground like Alice Madness Returns, Ghost in The Shell, Max Payne and Persona and more instead of the mainstream obvious presentation that was spearded by Call of Duty and Far Cry.
I think the reason games like Wet grab a cult following just by its character design and concept is because there is very rarely any media with a big budget following those inspirations. Be it movie or game.
Afro Samurai comes to mind as well. Bulletstorm.
I gotta say, as someone who never saw WET before, Rubi's design strikes me of Ryuko Matoi from Kill La Kill, post high-school. And I mean it as a compliment to the game's protagonist.
Really I thought I was the only one who knew about this year's ago but damn there's more people that realized this
Always seems to come back to anime with Wet, doesn't it
All 3 games here are super underrated and cool. Max Payne and especially its sequels always were one of my favorite games of all time.
I played Total Overdose when I was around 10-12, as someone from eastern Europe it was my first introduction to Mexican culture and everything around it. Loved it probably more, than San Andreas lol (and SA is awesome). Such a style.
Stranglehold was one of the first games I got for my new PC and I clearly remember one thing - destructability. At its time if felt incredible, but with games like Gears of War 2 and Red Faction Guerilla not very long down the line made me completely forget about it.
Wet is just pure fun. Love Kill Bill and it really sometimes make you feel like reliving scenes from these movies. Was very excited to discover a few years ago it was made by BHVR who also did Dead by Daylight which I played for 1.5k hours lol.
Great video! I really liked your closing sentence. Thank you!
I can forgive Strangehold a lot, it is easily the best game out of this bunch and I do think it has plenty of variety to keep itself fun for its run time, even though it is shooting with very limited weaponry I think a lot of it is still enjoyable.
I think you actually avoided the worst Max Payne clone by far, and that was El Matadaro. That game, if I recall, does not have bullets as projectiles but as hit-scan, yet it still has bullet-time, it plays absoltuely awfully.
Oh man, I thought I was the only one who remembered El Matador. Yeah, it was a weird game, but for some reason my 14-year-old self couldn't stop playing it.
Nobody needs your forgiveness.Total Overdose and Strangehold are game of their owns.No need to call them Max Payne clones cause this so called rayvick youtuber said so.Those games did so many things better than Max Payne games in terms of action and combat.Saying those game copied Max Payne is like saying all open world games are gta clone.
It's funny, I think the original Max Payne also had hitscan but they somehow got bullet time working so effectively in that game
@@slavboii420 no it was the first game with bullets as projectiles you can even see it if you use bullet time
@@abm128 Interesting. I saw somewhere that Max Payne 1 kinda imitates projectiles when in bullet time
One of your best yet, love you Ray. The Not Good reference was also gold, as were revolver spam audio jokes.
I always LOVED Total Overdose. That killer soundtrack and setting was a big selling point. Lot of great moments in that game backed by Delinquent Habits and Molotov.
Might I add as an honorable mention ''Wanted Weapons of Fate'' here.
I'll be honest, I haven't played any of these games, but this has been a great video. Been a fan of your work for a while. Well-structured videos with a nice balance of humour. Nice work.
I saw the ZP video on Wet back in the day and, loving the style of the concept art, played the demo. I could not for the life of me get into it - I remember feeling like there was something there that I was supposed to "get", but couldn't. I haven't heard a thing about it since. I do wish a developer with good means and a consistent vision could take the artbook and make something great out of it. Great video.
I am fully behind the remasters if it's Remedy at the helm, honest to God one of the most consistently great devs around.
I actually watched black lagoon some weeks ago and I really enjoyed it, thank you
Absolutely loved this video, great job! I love the Max Payne games and have been streaming them and Stranglehold recently. I still have Total Overdose somewhere so will have to get back to it too.
Had a dev talk in 2012 on a Game Dev Camp with the lead writer of the Hitman games Morten Iversen and I don't know the connection but he talked about Total Overdose and how the dev team was devastated that Sands of Time came out before them because the mechanic had been done and implemented for more then a year at that point. He even had a prototype from another game that was cancelled with him and we all got to try it. That game was "Recoil: Retrograd" and was developed by hes closed company Zeitguys.
Ask and Reycevick you shall receive
no seriously, it is such a curious thing to witness months of drout just see your beloved youtubers uploading good stuff merely weeks apart.
Love your videos chief, the voice, the production value, its a sight for the eyes, a melody for the ears and a banquet for thought
@Rаусеviск 🅥 Well this certainly aint raycevick.
looking like a scam alright
@@sebs-shenanigans It's not a scam
@@johankaruyan5536 if it is a secondary channel fine but i've never seen a circle V logo at the end of a user name, to me it looks like someone is impersonating Raycevick and look how whatever they posted got deleted??
now I probably shouldn't have done this but I checked the profile and they have 1 video and sure enough that V logo is a emoji of some kind and not a check mark identifying verified....
the bots on here have been weird for a few months now and this latest shit with the PS5 scam is annoying as all hell and I bet that's what the comment was you win a PS5.....it's probably some POS scalper parading as someone else, some people have no honor it seems....
i hate telemarketers, i hate scammers, i hate hackers and I seriously hate fakers and posers.....
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage I was trolling........
Bro wrote a whole essay
@@johankaruyan5536 and now the fukker changed his name my deduction was 100% correct!!! fukking poser!!!
@Heinz Doofenshmirtz 🅥
^this fukker when i posted originally had his name as @Raycevick 🅥 and he sniped the profile pic which he now changed what a loser!!!
My most prominent memory with stranglehold was playing it with my brother when we were much younger, and we did the spin attack with the rocket launcher. It must've been some sort of developer oversight, because it was so bizarre and hilarious watching this guy spin around all dramatically and fire this slow firing weapon like a machine gun, and it still somehow mowing down everyone in the room.
I loved WET a lot, but the criticism is pretty justified. My real disappointment is how no one ever talks about it, to say the game lacks a fanbase is a bit of an understatement
I'm certainly a fan of Wet and was disappointed about the sequel being cancelled.
I fucking hate WET. Worst game I've ever played.
Hot Damn!! You used the Chinatown theme from Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines in there! Mad respect Raycevick, you’re a true nostalgia artist 😁
What a end line, man. Nailed it. You should speak motivationally for uninspied Ubisoft open-world style execs
They're not looking for motivation unfortuantely.
lmao
edit: wasn't there a source (or goldsrc) mod that took this jump dive shoot third person style gameplay many years ago and was quite popular? I understand it was pretty good - probably lacks the epic story though
Double Action: Boogaloo, fantastic game
I liked WET's aesthetic and what it was going for, but I only got two hours into it and never finished it. Still, I think it'd be worth a good remake.
He talked so much about it that I just gotta comeback down here to say that Black Lagoon really is genius
I cannot express how much i LOVED WET. I bought it for the PS3 not knowing anything about it but was so surprised how fun it was. I'm going to go find it and play it again.
Same. I had no clue what to expect going into it and ended up loving it. So much damn fun. I get his issues in the video but idk, just never bothered me. The aesthetic of the game, the combat, etc all just seemed to hit very very well for me.
People expect too much. Not every game can be a 10/10 masterpiece. All of these games were still awesome and I still play them to this day.
Honestly agreedd Raycevick felt a bit too pretentious and unfairly comparing stuff
We know it and he knows it. The problem is when the flaws hinder the experience.
I agree!
@@fenrirsrage4609 when he listed all of the "bloated" features of Total Overdose, I was consistently asking mysefl "wtf is wrong about that?" it all sounds like an insanely fun time even with all the flaws.
Mentioning Black Lagoon in record time, well done Ray
My mission is complete
There was also a game called El Matador, i just remember 3 things from that game
Glass-Weird tutorial map - too much guns
Max Payne 3 multiplayer was highly underrated. I max leveled that game and loved every second. The vendetta system was awesome, not just that there was a taunt button to talk shit while you were fighting without doing a pose and all that like in most games. Stranglehold is a excellent game and blew me away when i played the 360 demo. I also found it on gog for cheap.
Underrated? The Multiplayer sucked ass imo lol. Look at all these weapons & perks but 90% of them are useless, combined with a dumb ass grind for unlocking them (RIP newbies). Much preferred Double Action Boogaloo in every aspect.
@@BDozer666 I always lean towards games Im good at and max paine 3 online was one of the games I was best at. That and another hated game called battlefield hardline. I was ranked 7th for most kills with the ACWR, goes to show how little people played it back then it was enough but not like call of duty numbers of people. I'll always be biased towards games I'm awesome at and I agree the grind was ridiculous. Took so long to unlock everything way to long.
MP3 multiplayer mode was excellent and was the first real effort to bring 'Max Payne' style action to online arena style gameplay.
Sure Raycevick, but you're wrong about one thing-tomboys are *inherently* likable.
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You may take 30 years to upload but when you do it's always a great time, keep up the great work
There is no possible way for me to have watched this whole thing yet but what a great video.
Dearly love all of these, wouldn't mind more games like this. Hope that after the boomer shooter indie revival we'll get Max Payne inspired 3rd person shooters.
Your initial Max Payne video made me get into the games, bought all 3 Max Payne games on Steam, the only true games that make me feel like Neo/John Wick
Check out Sleeping Dogs
@@Desmond9100 was just thinking about sleeping dogs! Loved that game but felt the gunplay was the weakest part. Would absolutely love a sequel though…would even play a remake just for the pork buns!! 🤣
@@Yiyan81 gunplay isn't that weak but it can improve definitiely. At least the enemies react if you shoot in balls.
@@morkgin2459 I did still enjoy the gunplay but the hand to hand was so good I think it was totally overshadowed. That and having just played through the whole of the uncharted series beforehand. I think if I’d played sleeping dogs on the prev Hagen when it came out I wouldn’t be so hard on the gunplay
@@Yiyan81 Give The warriers By Rockstar a try it is allot like Sleeping dogs But enemies put up more of a fight.
Best episode so far! keep up the great work 👍
The conclusion hits great. As usually, well fuckin' put.
Total Overdose was the bomb back in 2007 for me. Having no PC at home, I had to learn how to bypass the admin lock in the several cyber cafes near home so I could install it from my flash drive. Plenty of times my save got corrupted but had plenty of fun in the meantime. The nostalgia...
Whar actually prevented you from installing and running it from flash drive?
Lmfaoo i also "borrowed" TO from a cyber cafe using a flash drive(also a few other games too)
Thanks for the great videos as always man, check out "el matador" released in 2006, besides stranglehold it's the probably the closest in terms of tone to Max Payne.
Still remember the days when people used Stranglehold footage to make fake Max Payne 3 trailers. Good times, good times...
Stranglehold was a blast to play. I loved it.
I loved the voice of Max's voice actor, RIP😢