Never messed with MIDI, for the same reasons you mentioned at the start of the video. Thanks for the explanation. I think I’m going to give it a shot-this simplifies things a ton.
Great video, thank you. I'm going to get a Jet MCX eventually. Having the ability to send multiple MIDI commands gets us beyond the 3 Snapshot limit of the HX Stomp.
Good video. Personally, I like leaving MIDI Ch 1 open whenever possible. That makes it easier to just plug a factory new pedal into the rig to demo it or deal with pedals that listen on all channels by default.
Great video, super helpful to understand the MCX since there isn’t much out there on the pedal. One thing I didn’t find in any other info is that the messages are sent on the release of the button, not the press. Wanted people to be aware if they are looking at the MCX.
Glad it helped! And yes...Junior talked about that as a feature...like you could go ahead and step on a switch when you have time and to get ready and then release at the precise moment you want!
Yes. Those are some good options as well. Those Disaster Area pedals can't do as much, (which may be fine) for example the DMC Micro only "Controls up to three MIDI devices". The MC3 is a beast AND it looks great AND has a screen. But it's just a little bit bigger. If I had more room, I would look it that for sure. I just love the look! And they've thought of everything as well.
Subscribed...thanks for the great content! Got interested in the HX Stomp while taking some time off over Christmas and have been trying to decide how I would incorporate it into my current rig if I decide to give it a try. Not currently a MIDI user but this is giving me some really good ideas! Really appreciate your heart for leading worship and investing in others doing the same.
No problem Jimmy, keep it up, your enthusiasm and positive attitude are an encouragement. My current signal chain is... MXR Custom Comp -> Mad Prof Little Green Wonder -> EHX Soul Food -> Tech 21 Blonde (Amp Sim) -> Volume/Tuner -> Empress Echosystem -> TC Arena -> DI direct to mixer Ordered the Stomp last night, think I will try using drives in the Stomp along with snapshots and a MIDI controller for starters and maybe replace drives with something midi controlled in the future...idk?
I 100% understand why you chose a small board... ive done it too where I go from a big board with 10 pedals to a small board with only 4 pedals to keep it as simple as possible... but it looks like you could benefit from getting a bigger board because I know you probably already miss your volume pedal
haha...yeah, that's always the struggle. I'm pretty comfortable using my volume knob but it def isn't as good. I still kept my VP, so I could throw it in front of my board if I really want it on a particular day.
This is so good. You know your gear so well! How do you remember what does that, though? Wouldn't it be a lot easier if it had a screen like the Morningstar does?
I agree, the screen would be nice. But then you have the size issue. I could get a bigger board, but I'm really trying to keep things as small as possible. But to keep my mind organized, I keep each bank a song, and have 3-8 sounds pre-programmed in each bank (leaving the other 2 for scrolling). Song 1 = Red Bank, Song 2 = Green bank and so on. And since you can save your presets or "songs" in the editor, you don't have to recreate them again. If in 3 weeks we do song 1 again, but we play it as song 3 in the set, I can just send all those settings back into the MCX in the 3rd bank.
hmmm...that would be very redundant...and neither have midi through...although I'm sure there is a work around if you use a midi junction box like my Disaster Area Midi Box 4
The intro sounds sweet! I recently sold my helix to buy an hx stomp. I'm looking to make my rig even more compact, but the learning curve ouch hahahaha.
Thanks for the in depth tutorial and review. I just got the MCX. Do you notice a short delay on short press? I assigned short press to change my snapshots but there is a slight delay. Any workaround for this issue?
I think there is a very slight delay as the these are smart switches and they need to make sure you are just doing a short press. The new ones have to wait to see if you are going to do a long press...but they now have it to where you can turn that off if you don't want it
@@HeyWorshipLeader Thank you for the clarification. I really love this pedal. Small yet so much control . I will try to turn turn that feature off and see how much difference it makes. Thanks
@@HeyWorshipLeader Thanks for the detail. I fiddled around but wasnt able to find out how to turn off that long press feature. I found out that we are able to do that on the jet micro, but I dont see that on MCX. Any ideas?
A really handy video. I'm looking to add a midi controller early next year to my Stomp. I've been considering the MC6 since I have space and I like the display. If I had less space to work with, the MCX would be a frontrunner for sure. Maybe it's a nitpick but on the MCX editor, should not the Channel be the first thing? Seems backward and potentially confusing to select the CC# BEFORE you select the device channel. Channel>CC>Value just makes more sense in my head.
I agree about the editor. I also would change some of the wording in the editor like "Start Over." I didn't want to click that at first, because I thought it would erase what I just did. As far as the MC6, that thing looks awesome. If you have the space, it's probably a good option as well. I haven't messed it before.
Hey thanks for the walk through. I just want to ask, since it's not directly explained on your content, 1. where are the TRS cables from the Revelation and Arrow going to from your pedalboard? 2. during midi control settings on you mac, are all 3 pedals connected via USB to your mac? @HeyWorshipLeader
I see you created some setups on the green bank. But how do you select the green bank? I see your MCX is already on green so you can just go from there. But say I'm in green and I want to switch to blue - how do I do that? It seems the Midi controller can do a lot. You can have one button affect multiple things on multiple pedals at once. Currently I'm thinking simple. I want to access a color bank to access presets in one pedal, and then access another color bank to scroll presets of another pedal. Is there an easier way to do what I'm thinking, or am I on the right track?
great questions...TRS cables can also send midi. You can buy a 5 pin to TRS custom cable here: www.disasterareadesigns.com/shop/p/5p-trs-pro-midi-cable
Great sounds ! I like your vid’s a whole lot. I have a question: first of all, I am about to put together a small HX Stomp based pedalboard like yours. But I have one specific objective: I want to be able to navigate a whole set with 1 foot switch… Sitting all by itself away from any other thing I could hit by accident … No aiming necessary… And that switch would just go to the next preset on the midi controller with one short press. How might I accomplish that? I’m klutzy and my foot - eye coordination is not good ... especially when I’m trying to play.
You can hook up an external foot switch to scroll through presets via Foot Switch 4 ....most people use a dual foot switch to scroll up and down...if you use a single foot switch once you went past a preset you'd have to bend down to go back....which might be fine for you. You could use a simple foot switch like this one from JHS: www.amazon.com/Jhs-RedR-JHS-Remote-Footswitch/dp/B06XYQLXGC/ref=asc_df_B06XYQLXGC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312151212938&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15798644299894822065&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009718&hvtargid=pla-505505116997&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=65054436434&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312151212938&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15798644299894822065&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009718&hvtargid=pla-505505116997 Or a single switch midi baby controller like this one from Disaster Area: www.disasterareadesigns.com/shop/p/midi-baby Hope that helps
@@HeyWorshipLeader Man thanks a lot for your reply. I also have A General MIDI question : is it possible to send a pc message and a cc message to the same channel on one press (Like for example switching to a different preset AND a specific snapshot on the Stomp)? I know you’re MCX will send 16 simultaneous messages, but if I understand correctly each message has to be on a different channel?
Gonna be getting a Jet Micro HX 3.0 but good lord is it annoying to source a low profile MIDI Cable. they really should have stock of some to bundle with your order so you aren't having to scrounge the web for pedalboard friendly options. I was very close to going with Disaster Area over them for this reason but the MIDI Baby 3 has less viability in its uses so JET won out there.
I love the size on this pedal, but I have 2 pedals with 1/8" midi... kinda leaning toward the Morningstar, but I prefer the no screen small size super simple layout of this one. Grrrr. No perfect options. Haha.
Haha! Not at all. I got the black thing going on and I mentioned that in my last video that that's only thing I don't like. I need to get it custom painted...haha
@@theTang2007 Oh I've talked to Junior...they outsource the encasings so once they pick a color that's it...it'd have to be custom...but now the color is growing on me :)
Never messed with MIDI, for the same reasons you mentioned at the start of the video. Thanks for the explanation. I think I’m going to give it a shot-this simplifies things a ton.
That's awesome! Let me know if you have any questions!
My brother...Your in ear/mix tutorial was so spot on. My frustration level went from a 9 to 2. Appreciate ya.....
That's awesome!
Very instructive video, man. Watching you all the way from Brazil. Keep at it, bro!
Thank you so much!
Great video, thank you. I'm going to get a Jet MCX eventually. Having the ability to send multiple MIDI commands gets us beyond the 3 Snapshot limit of the HX Stomp.
thanks! good idea
So good! Thank you Sir!
You got it!
Great video! I am looking to reduce my board size. Thanks for giving us such great content.
Glad to help!
Great video! Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
Good video. Personally, I like leaving MIDI Ch 1 open whenever possible. That makes it easier to just plug a factory new pedal into the rig to demo it or deal with pedals that listen on all channels by default.
Oh that’s a great idea!
Great video, super helpful to understand the MCX since there isn’t much out there on the pedal. One thing I didn’t find in any other info is that the messages are sent on the release of the button, not the press. Wanted people to be aware if they are looking at the MCX.
Glad it helped! And yes...Junior talked about that as a feature...like you could go ahead and step on a switch when you have time and to get ready and then release at the precise moment you want!
The Jet MCX, Disaster Area Midi Baby and DMC Micro, Morningstar MC3... some really nice compact controllers out there for small boards.
Yes. Those are some good options as well. Those Disaster Area pedals can't do as much, (which may be fine) for example the DMC Micro only "Controls up to three MIDI devices". The MC3 is a beast AND it looks great AND has a screen. But it's just a little bit bigger. If I had more room, I would look it that for sure. I just love the look! And they've thought of everything as well.
@@HeyWorshipLeader Lots of good options. I love having options! None of this stuff was available when I got into MIDI effects 20 years ago.
Subscribed...thanks for the great content! Got interested in the HX Stomp while taking some time off over Christmas and have been trying to decide how I would incorporate it into my current rig if I decide to give it a try. Not currently a MIDI user but this is giving me some really good ideas! Really appreciate your heart for leading worship and investing in others doing the same.
Wow! Thanks for the encouragement! What other pedals do you run?
No problem Jimmy, keep it up, your enthusiasm and positive attitude are an encouragement. My current signal chain is...
MXR Custom Comp -> Mad Prof Little Green Wonder -> EHX Soul Food -> Tech 21 Blonde (Amp Sim) -> Volume/Tuner -> Empress Echosystem -> TC Arena -> DI direct to mixer
Ordered the Stomp last night, think I will try using drives in the Stomp along with snapshots and a MIDI controller for starters and maybe replace drives with something midi controlled in the future...idk?
I 100% understand why you chose a small board... ive done it too where I go from a big board with 10 pedals to a small board with only 4 pedals to keep it as simple as possible... but it looks like you could benefit from getting a bigger board because I know you probably already miss your volume pedal
haha...yeah, that's always the struggle. I'm pretty comfortable using my volume knob but it def isn't as good. I still kept my VP, so I could throw it in front of my board if I really want it on a particular day.
Thank you so much. Life changer haha
Happy to help!
This is so good. You know your gear so well! How do you remember what does that, though? Wouldn't it be a lot easier if it had a screen like the Morningstar does?
I agree, the screen would be nice. But then you have the size issue. I could get a bigger board, but I'm really trying to keep things as small as possible. But to keep my mind organized, I keep each bank a song, and have 3-8 sounds pre-programmed in each bank (leaving the other 2 for scrolling). Song 1 = Red Bank, Song 2 = Green bank and so on. And since you can save your presets or "songs" in the editor, you don't have to recreate them again. If in 3 weeks we do song 1 again, but we play it as song 3 in the set, I can just send all those settings back into the MCX in the 3rd bank.
@@HeyWorshipLeader that sounds nuts to me! :P I guess you could go for a Nano Max or even a Metro size board if you got a bigger midi controller.
@@pdepurpurina Haha! That's true. Maybe one day :)
Is it possible to use this AND the little Robbie pilot?
hmmm...that would be very redundant...and neither have midi through...although I'm sure there is a work around if you use a midi junction box like my Disaster Area Midi Box 4
The intro sounds sweet! I recently sold my helix to buy an hx stomp. I'm looking to make my rig even more compact, but the learning curve ouch hahahaha.
Thanks man! haha..I bet, Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the in depth tutorial and review. I just got the MCX. Do you notice a short delay on short press? I assigned short press to change my snapshots but there is a slight delay. Any workaround for this issue?
I think there is a very slight delay as the these are smart switches and they need to make sure you are just doing a short press. The new ones have to wait to see if you are going to do a long press...but they now have it to where you can turn that off if you don't want it
@@HeyWorshipLeader Thank you for the clarification. I really love this pedal. Small yet so much control . I will try to turn turn that feature off and see how much difference it makes. Thanks
@@HeyWorshipLeader Thanks for the detail. I fiddled around but wasnt able to find out how to turn off that long press feature. I found out that we are able to do that on the jet micro, but I dont see that on MCX. Any ideas?
I only need the MCX to control my HX stomp, cause my other pedals are the RC-30 looper and the MXR Carbon Copy (which don't have midi)
I would the JET Micro instead. It’s preprogrammed for the HX Stomp!
@@HeyWorshipLeader Never mind, I just ordered a Jet Micro just now after seeing the price. I will utilise the MCX for something else.
Would of got this if Morningstar didn’t make the MC3 but it’s still a small nice midi controller! Thanks for the video too very informative!
Yeah, that MC3 looks amazing. I don't think you'll regret that decision at all!
A really handy video. I'm looking to add a midi controller early next year to my Stomp. I've been considering the MC6 since I have space and I like the display. If I had less space to work with, the MCX would be a frontrunner for sure. Maybe it's a nitpick but on the MCX editor, should not the Channel be the first thing? Seems backward and potentially confusing to select the CC# BEFORE you select the device channel. Channel>CC>Value just makes more sense in my head.
I agree about the editor. I also would change some of the wording in the editor like "Start Over." I didn't want to click that at first, because I thought it would erase what I just did. As far as the MC6, that thing looks awesome. If you have the space, it's probably a good option as well. I haven't messed it before.
Hey thanks for the walk through. I just want to ask, since it's not directly explained on your content,
1. where are the TRS cables from the Revelation and Arrow going to from your pedalboard?
2. during midi control settings on you mac, are all 3 pedals connected via USB to your mac?
@HeyWorshipLeader
There’s actually a midi junction box under the pedalboard!
I see you created some setups on the green bank. But how do you select the green bank? I see your MCX is already on green so you can just go from there. But say I'm in green and I want to switch to blue - how do I do that?
It seems the Midi controller can do a lot. You can have one button affect multiple things on multiple pedals at once. Currently I'm thinking simple. I want to access a color bank to access presets in one pedal, and then access another color bank to scroll presets of another pedal. Is there an easier way to do what I'm thinking, or am I on the right track?
I think you’re on the right track. I think junior the builder uses it in a similar way. A short press of all 3 switches changes bank colors
i wonder if i can plug midi from pedal to interface and Midi map each thing in my DAW?
Yes you can...anyone that can be midi mapped...I tested this out and can control Ableton and vise versa...have Ableton control my Stomp...It's awesome
How are you sending the messages since the stomp and jet are 5 pin and the broken arrow is 1/4?
great questions...TRS cables can also send midi. You can buy a 5 pin to TRS custom cable here: www.disasterareadesigns.com/shop/p/5p-trs-pro-midi-cable
Great sounds ! I like your vid’s a whole lot. I have a question: first of all, I am about to put together a small HX Stomp based pedalboard like yours. But I have one specific objective: I want to be able to navigate a whole set with 1 foot switch… Sitting all by itself away from any other thing I could hit by accident … No aiming necessary… And that switch would just go to the next preset on the midi controller with one short press. How might I accomplish that? I’m klutzy and my foot - eye coordination is not good ... especially when I’m trying to play.
You can hook up an external foot switch to scroll through presets via Foot Switch 4 ....most people use a dual foot switch to scroll up and down...if you use a single foot switch once you went past a preset you'd have to bend down to go back....which might be fine for you.
You could use a simple foot switch like this one from JHS: www.amazon.com/Jhs-RedR-JHS-Remote-Footswitch/dp/B06XYQLXGC/ref=asc_df_B06XYQLXGC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312151212938&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15798644299894822065&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009718&hvtargid=pla-505505116997&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=65054436434&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312151212938&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15798644299894822065&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009718&hvtargid=pla-505505116997
Or a single switch midi baby controller like this one from Disaster Area: www.disasterareadesigns.com/shop/p/midi-baby
Hope that helps
@@HeyWorshipLeader Man thanks a lot for your reply. I also have A General MIDI question : is it possible to send a pc message and a cc message to the same channel on one press (Like for example switching to a different preset AND a specific snapshot on the Stomp)? I know you’re MCX will send 16 simultaneous messages, but if I understand correctly each message has to be on a different channel?
How do you plug three midi pedals into one controller? Do they go into a hub and from the hub to the mcx?
Yes! I have a disaster area midi box 4 under my board
Gonna be getting a Jet Micro HX 3.0 but good lord is it annoying to source a low profile MIDI Cable. they really should have stock of some to bundle with your order so you aren't having to scrounge the web for pedalboard friendly options. I was very close to going with Disaster Area over them for this reason but the MIDI Baby 3 has less viability in its uses so JET won out there.
Yeah...I agree...I'd like to get a lower profile midi cable as well.
hmmm . . . never thought of my "9-ness" in relation to my gear. Do i really need another reason/ excuse for buying new stuff?
Haha! No we don't!
I love the size on this pedal, but I have 2 pedals with 1/8" midi... kinda leaning toward the Morningstar, but I prefer the no screen small size super simple layout of this one. Grrrr. No perfect options. Haha.
Seems to be to tiny for foot.
Is anyone of you, subscribers, using this thing in real life?
It is small but once you get it and see the raised foot switch in the back...an angled step works great...I use all the time and wear 11 shoe
Is it petty that I don't want to consider this pedal because it doesn't come in white? I mean, I've got this whole white pedalboard motif going.
Can get a Disaster Area mini Midi controllers in white. Similar in function, size, and price.
Haha! Not at all. I got the black thing going on and I mentioned that in my last video that that's only thing I don't like. I need to get it custom painted...haha
Email them. They might be able to help you out!
@@theTang2007 Oh I've talked to Junior...they outsource the encasings so once they pick a color that's it...it'd have to be custom...but now the color is growing on me :)
Or just use hx command centre
I thought we left Midi behind a long time ago. Back to making things complicated again.
Worst MIDI Editor I've ever seen... Dont' buy this pedal. It'll be a big mistake