To fish the wall you can always strip off some of the jacket exposing the copper wire pairs and wrap it around a heavy nut or bolt and drop it through your hole so that the weight carries it straight down once you hear it hit the bottom you just pull up a little bit or not and poke your fingers in and grab your wire sometimes you need a little hook to grab it but any kind of weight will help. But you did the right thing getting a fish tape makes life so much better
That's great advice thanks. I was struggling to feel when the wire was hitting the floor so I just kept feeding more down the hole. I'll try this next time.
This was fun to watch. Definitely would’ve installed a wall plate with double keystones and ran patch cables directly from the router to the wall plates though. Just an aesthetic thing for me.
A tip for fishing cables is to use electrical tape to secure the wire to the fish. It's the one good thing electrical tape is good for. You can stretch it as you wrap, which will give you a tight secure connection. That way it won't really bind up on anything and it won't pull the wire off the fish.
Just an FYI for people who are new to UniFi APs. That metal plate was not needed in this scenario. That plate is designed to use in drop ceiling tiles. Pop the tile out of the grid, mount and place it back. For drywall, simple drywall anchors and the main mounting plate are more than enough.
Hey, good point. you're right that drywall anchors will work. Just make sure they're ones made for hanging objects from the ceiling. The regular anchors you would use for hanging pictures don't handle tension force well.
i know im late to this vid but best practice is to run the cable before you crimp the ends to ensure you have enough length ran. that way you dont come up short. its best to have more than less.
FYI...the metal backing plate that you used is designed for drop down ceilings. The primary method with sheet rock ceilings is to use the plastic wall anchors with the plastic bracket. However, what you did with both plates on each side of the ceiling is the strongest possible method to secure the AP.
Thanks for letting me know! Using only the plastic wall hangers felt wrong because I worry about things failing overtime. I probably could have gotten some specialty ones but it was easier to use the pieces I had from the box. However that's a good thing to know for folks in a multi-floor home that can't put the metal plate above the ceiling.
@@Schonz Very good. The key I've learned with plastic wall anchors is to drill the hole size correctly. For example, the UniFi directions says drill 6mm, which is 0.23622 inches, therefore, I use the drill bit just below this size at 15/64. If I can get the anchor to tap in great. If not, then I drill up one more size. You can always make the hole bigger, but you cannot go smaller. The AP's weigh about 1 pound, so they will be fine. One more tip...go to Ace Hardware and get a better set of screws. The anchors are fine, however, I find that the screws are a slightly undersized and the heads to the screws strip easy. Ace Hardware has excellent stainless steel screws that fit incredibly better.
Good evening Sir, thanks for your time educating us. Pls, kindly help... I have a unified AP Pro that want to use and extend internet service from groundfloor to 4th floor. pls how do i go about it... I have already run cat6 to 4th floor. Thank you.
Hey Man, I'm new to installing WAPs and this video is exactly my situation. I just have one question, if you are connected to your original router's wifi on say, your phone, and then you walk into your office, does your phone automatically connect to the wifi coming from the AP? Or do you manually have to change to that network each time? Thanks for a great instructional video btw!
It depends on the signal coming from your router. If your device is receiving a strong signal coming from the router, it will stay on the routers connection, but it WILL switch to the AP when it determines the AP is a more stable connection.
Hey, yea your phone or any device will manually switch over. Now I did have a lot of issues with this until I used "Enable Minimum RSSI" that lets you set a minimum signal strength for each AP. What it does is when the connection strength between your AP and device falls below a threshold, your AP will tell the device "hey find a better connection". Mine is set to -80 because I like to have WiFi when I'm doing yardwork. I think most others use -75. It's something you'll want to experiment with until you find something that works for each of your devices.
I see your isp is at&t fiber. When I’m connected wirelessly to the isp router I’m getting about 700-800 up and down but when I connect to my mesh system I’m getting about 500 megs down and about 500 up. I have the deco newer mesh system and I have them all hard wired together. I have my rg in pass through mode. What kind of speeds are u getting with your new set up?
Wow you're getting great speeds. Ever since seeing your comment I've been meaning to do a real speed test where I get everyone off the internet at my house but haven't had a great opportunity. My devices are seeing around 250Mbps down and 200Mbps up. However, the Ubiquiti software says my connections are running at a tx rx speed of 400Mbps so maybe I'm getting a decent amount of packet drops; but I have no idea. Also I'm not using passthrough mode and I'm using my modem as a switch. I'm planning on getting a PoE switch soon which will probably improve my speeds so I'll try to remember to get back to you when I finally get that in.
@@Schonz what’s the difference from a POE switch to using your router as a switch. I was looking at the new orbi WiFi 6E mesh system and thought it’s also like having a switch because of all the extra Ethernet ports available after running some Ethernet to each satellite right? I thought a switch was just extra ports right? But what’s the difference from a dedicated switch to using all the extra ports on something like the orbi system. (I have 1 gig AT&T fiber and hoping to get 2 gigs soon)
SO today I was installing a Sunbrite TV to a customer,,I saw the wap mounted on the ceiling,,checked behind the old tv saw the poe adapter,,,after I moved all connections to the new tv,,couldn't get the wifi,,it was the same problem with the old tv before I replaced it. He has the system in the utility room,,i saw everything is up and running,,so what do you think?
Good work dude! This is one of the most informative videos on TH-cam! If you ever do an update, or install anything new you should definitely record it!!! HUGE thumbs up from me
I'm wondering how well the work if you are running a dream machine non pro as your main router. Also how do those aps hold up when you're gaming and other people are streaming Netflix and TH-cam, I'm thinking of getting the WiFi 6 version or 6e version when that releases one per floor and running both in mesh. Before I forget does Poe still work if you run a wall socket or jack for eithernet?
Hey, so my setup has these access points plugging directly into my ISP provided modem. So things are working great without a dream machine. Now I do have the Unifi Network Application running on a laptop that stays on 24x7 running Ubuntu Server. The network optimization requires the Network App to constantly run but whether the optimization helps is debatable. I also had to play around with the power and advanced settings to get the AP handoff working just right. As far as speed everything is running great. The girlfriend and I can both be on zoom meetings with Netflix running in the background with no degradation in any of those services (or at least that I can tell). PoE should work as long as the cables are CAT5e or higher. So any compatible jack or socket should work.
if your adding 2 APs to your home network, do you label the ssid the same name? What happens if you do, and you connect to wap1 and move through the house and loose signal from lets say upstairs/downstairs, whil you have to log into wap2 if it has different ssid/name? HOpe this makes sense. Im gettting ready to put 2 WAPs in my new home upstairs/downstairs and wondered how to configuer? thanks
Helo sir I just want to know do you configure the IP address for those two wifi access point or it just automatically given by the ISP Modem at the moment we connect those access point?
Nice video sir...thnx a lot..i have quetion sir suppose AP installation is done then what is the next step..AP connected to Switcher so can i need to any licence of configure the device..please help me..i want to learn unifi AP all setup..installation is i learn but next step is configuration and whats the need..eg sw, licence etc
Very nice video. I have a question - I am trying to reconfigure 3 access points that were installed in my home (by a very expensive sound system installer). I think I can do it myself. But do I need to go around and reset all access points first? I've downloaded software but no devices show up. Also, in the diagram with the Power over Ethernet Adapter, you show only one access point hooked up. Is it not necessary to hook up the other? Just trying to understand how it works.
Hey, so my general advice is whenever you're having issues with any electronics try resetting it. However the caveat is you may lose all your settings that the installer put in place so you will need to make sure you're comfortable with reconfiguring the device. About the diagram, You're right I only show 1 access point as an example. Each access point would need its own PoE adapter Or if you have a PoE network switch you can skip all that. In my setup I didn't have a network switch, So I plug directly into my ISPs Modem. Some access points do have mesh networking in which case you just have to power device and make sure it's "in-range" of the other access points. Which access points did your installer put in?
@@Schonz I can’t believe it but I was actually able to reconfigure it using your video. (Had to reset and then “adopt”). My original installer ran ethernet cords to the router. Success! Thank you
Huh, is that powder fluff type insulation common in the US? Here in the UK the most common type you see for attic insulation is rolls of glass fibre wool around 250 to 270 mm that you just cut and lay out.
Yes, at least the houses I have lived in (all in the southern states) use this type of fluff insulation. It's quite messy, I would prefer a cleaner solution especially when I'm doing this sort of work or storing things in the attic.
It's a matter of convenience for the installation. Down here in the Southeast, the last place you want to be is in a Florida attic in July. Easier to blow an attic in 30 min then an afternoon laying rolls.
hello, I work for a hotel, when i came here (hotel) i found a network using unifi ac pro, to access wifi in this unifi the client have to put a user name and password! Now i brought news unifi6 and i want to do the same configuration but i can't do it....can u help me please?
Great video and feel your pain with all this wall fishing - makes me feel better about my frustrations when doing the same in my house. Side question: what did you use to create the diagram video after the "rats nest of cables" comment?
The plates you mentioned are much cleaner; I like them. I may switch to those once I figure out how many devices I'm going to hardwire, or just over estimate by a lot. Thanks!
Great video! Looking to take this project one at my house very soon. Are you available for just some general questions I have? Just want to talk through my steps and process to make sure I am not missing anything. Would greatly appreciate it! @schonz
Just unnecessary to do this amount of work. Put AP on the wall instead or just under a TV cabinet, your wifi will barely change. What are you gonna see a difference of, maybe 20mbps?
To fish the wall you can always strip off some of the jacket exposing the copper wire pairs and wrap it around a heavy nut or bolt and drop it through your hole so that the weight carries it straight down once you hear it hit the bottom you just pull up a little bit or not and poke your fingers in and grab your wire sometimes you need a little hook to grab it but any kind of weight will help. But you did the right thing getting a fish tape makes life so much better
That's great advice thanks. I was struggling to feel when the wire was hitting the floor so I just kept feeding more down the hole. I'll try this next time.
This was fun to watch. Definitely would’ve installed a wall plate with double keystones and ran patch cables directly from the router to the wall plates though. Just an aesthetic thing for me.
A tip for fishing cables is to use electrical tape to secure the wire to the fish. It's the one good thing electrical tape is good for. You can stretch it as you wrap, which will give you a tight secure connection. That way it won't really bind up on anything and it won't pull the wire off the fish.
great video! skipped the boring repetitive stuff but he kept all the important details!
Just an FYI for people who are new to UniFi APs. That metal plate was not needed in this scenario. That plate is designed to use in drop ceiling tiles. Pop the tile out of the grid, mount and place it back. For drywall, simple drywall anchors and the main mounting plate are more than enough.
Hey, good point. you're right that drywall anchors will work. Just make sure they're ones made for hanging objects from the ceiling. The regular anchors you would use for hanging pictures don't handle tension force well.
Wow I enjoy watching your video because is same thing am doing here in Bahrain from Cameroon.
i know im late to this vid but best practice is to run the cable before you crimp the ends to ensure you have enough length ran. that way you dont come up short. its best to have more than less.
That's very good advice. I ended up quadruple checking my measurements but the quicker and safer bet would have been to run the cable first.
FYI...the metal backing plate that you used is designed for drop down ceilings. The primary method with sheet rock ceilings is to use the plastic wall anchors with the plastic bracket. However, what you did with both plates on each side of the ceiling is the strongest possible method to secure the AP.
Thanks for letting me know! Using only the plastic wall hangers felt wrong because I worry about things failing overtime. I probably could have gotten some specialty ones but it was easier to use the pieces I had from the box. However that's a good thing to know for folks in a multi-floor home that can't put the metal plate above the ceiling.
@@Schonz Very good. The key I've learned with plastic wall anchors is to drill the hole size correctly. For example, the UniFi directions says drill 6mm, which is 0.23622 inches, therefore, I use the drill bit just below this size at 15/64. If I can get the anchor to tap in great. If not, then I drill up one more size. You can always make the hole bigger, but you cannot go smaller. The AP's weigh about 1 pound, so they will be fine. One more tip...go to Ace Hardware and get a better set of screws. The anchors are fine, however, I find that the screws are a slightly undersized and the heads to the screws strip easy. Ace Hardware has excellent stainless steel screws that fit incredibly better.
Thanks, handy to know you don't need a ubiquiti router
Wow I enjoy watching your video because is same thing am doing here in Bahrain am from Cameroon.
does your wifi network have that "handover" feature? ...to make your mobile devices switching between the strongest singnal of the APs?
Nice video tutorial. What's the name of the funnel type piece you ran the ethernet cables through? I have never seen/noticed them in a big box store.
How are your speeds compared between your original router and your access points
Hey there! Any advice on how to make both access points use the same Wi-Fi network SSID and pass?
Good evening Sir, thanks for your time educating us. Pls, kindly help...
I have a unified AP Pro that want to use and extend internet service from groundfloor to 4th floor.
pls how do i go about it... I have already run cat6 to 4th floor. Thank you.
If I mount the ubiquiti u6 lr on the wall at the top, will it also work? Ceiling mounting is not possible.
Hey Man, I'm new to installing WAPs and this video is exactly my situation. I just have one question, if you are connected to your original router's wifi on say, your phone, and then you walk into your office, does your phone automatically connect to the wifi coming from the AP? Or do you manually have to change to that network each time? Thanks for a great instructional video btw!
It depends on the signal coming from your router.
If your device is receiving a strong signal coming from the router, it will stay on the routers connection, but it WILL switch to the AP when it determines the AP is a more stable connection.
you should be turning off the router's built in wifi
Hey, yea your phone or any device will manually switch over. Now I did have a lot of issues with this until I used "Enable Minimum RSSI" that lets you set a minimum signal strength for each AP. What it does is when the connection strength between your AP and device falls below a threshold, your AP will tell the device "hey find a better connection". Mine is set to -80 because I like to have WiFi when I'm doing yardwork. I think most others use -75. It's something you'll want to experiment with until you find something that works for each of your devices.
I see your isp is at&t fiber. When I’m connected wirelessly to the isp router I’m getting about 700-800 up and down but when I connect to my mesh system I’m getting about 500 megs down and about 500 up. I have the deco newer mesh system and I have them all hard wired together. I have my rg in pass through mode. What kind of speeds are u getting with your new set up?
Wow you're getting great speeds. Ever since seeing your comment I've been meaning to do a real speed test where I get everyone off the internet at my house but haven't had a great opportunity. My devices are seeing around 250Mbps down and 200Mbps up. However, the Ubiquiti software says my connections are running at a tx rx speed of 400Mbps so maybe I'm getting a decent amount of packet drops; but I have no idea. Also I'm not using passthrough mode and I'm using my modem as a switch. I'm planning on getting a PoE switch soon which will probably improve my speeds so I'll try to remember to get back to you when I finally get that in.
@@Schonz what’s the difference from a POE switch to using your router as a switch. I was looking at the new orbi WiFi 6E mesh system and thought it’s also like having a switch because of all the extra Ethernet ports available after running some Ethernet to each satellite right? I thought a switch was just extra ports right? But what’s the difference from a dedicated switch to using all the extra ports on something like the orbi system. (I have 1 gig AT&T fiber and hoping to get 2 gigs soon)
SO today I was installing a Sunbrite TV to a customer,,I saw the wap mounted on the ceiling,,checked behind the old tv saw the poe adapter,,,after I moved all connections to the new tv,,couldn't get the wifi,,it was the same problem with the old tv before I replaced it. He has the system in the utility room,,i saw everything is up and running,,so what do you think?
Good work dude! This is one of the most informative videos on TH-cam! If you ever do an update, or install anything new you should definitely record it!!! HUGE thumbs up from me
I'm wondering how well the work if you are running a dream machine non pro as your main router.
Also how do those aps hold up when you're gaming and other people are streaming Netflix and TH-cam, I'm thinking of getting the WiFi 6 version or 6e version when that releases one per floor and running both in mesh.
Before I forget does Poe still work if you run a wall socket or jack for eithernet?
Hey, so my setup has these access points plugging directly into my ISP provided modem. So things are working great without a dream machine. Now I do have the Unifi Network Application running on a laptop that stays on 24x7 running Ubuntu Server. The network optimization requires the Network App to constantly run but whether the optimization helps is debatable. I also had to play around with the power and advanced settings to get the AP handoff working just right.
As far as speed everything is running great. The girlfriend and I can both be on zoom meetings with Netflix running in the background with no degradation in any of those services (or at least that I can tell).
PoE should work as long as the cables are CAT5e or higher. So any compatible jack or socket should work.
if your adding 2 APs to your home network, do you label the ssid the same name? What happens if you do, and you connect to wap1 and move through the house and loose signal from lets say upstairs/downstairs, whil you have to log into wap2 if it has different ssid/name? HOpe this makes sense. Im gettting ready to put 2 WAPs in my new home upstairs/downstairs and wondered how to configuer? thanks
So, for two access points, you have to have two PoE adapters? Or did you already have a PoE switch?
Disregard. I found another user with the same question and you answered it. Thanks for taking the time to post this tutorial.
What about a surface-mount installation onto a solid concrete ceiling? Is that even possible?
You're awesome, super helpful - thank you! 🙂
Hi what’s the model number of this unit with the POE adapter?
Helo sir I just want to know do you configure the IP address for those two wifi access point or it just automatically given by the ISP Modem at the moment we connect those access point?
One of the best instructional videos I’ve seen.
Nice video sir...thnx a lot..i have quetion sir suppose AP installation is done then what is the next step..AP connected to Switcher so can i need to any licence of configure the device..please help me..i want to learn unifi AP all setup..installation is i learn but next step is configuration and whats the need..eg sw, licence etc
Go to UBIQUITY website, training and classes available.
Very nice video. I have a question - I am trying to reconfigure 3 access points that were installed in my home (by a very expensive sound system installer). I think I can do it myself. But do I need to go around and reset all access points first? I've downloaded software but no devices show up. Also, in the diagram with the Power over Ethernet Adapter, you show only one access point hooked up. Is it not necessary to hook up the other? Just trying to understand how it works.
Hey, so my general advice is whenever you're having issues with any electronics try resetting it. However the caveat is you may lose all your settings that the installer put in place so you will need to make sure you're comfortable with reconfiguring the device.
About the diagram, You're right I only show 1 access point as an example. Each access point would need its own PoE adapter Or if you have a PoE network switch you can skip all that. In my setup I didn't have a network switch, So I plug directly into my ISPs Modem. Some access points do have mesh networking in which case you just have to power device and make sure it's "in-range" of the other access points. Which access points did your installer put in?
@@Schonz I can’t believe it but I was actually able to reconfigure it using your video. (Had to reset and then “adopt”). My original installer ran ethernet cords to the router. Success! Thank you
Huh, is that powder fluff type insulation common in the US? Here in the UK the most common type you see for attic insulation is rolls of glass fibre wool around 250 to 270 mm that you just cut and lay out.
Yes, at least the houses I have lived in (all in the southern states) use this type of fluff insulation. It's quite messy, I would prefer a cleaner solution especially when I'm doing this sort of work or storing things in the attic.
It's a matter of convenience for the installation. Down here in the Southeast, the last place you want to be is in a Florida attic in July. Easier to blow an attic in 30 min then an afternoon laying rolls.
Can you use an UI AP without any key or login?
hello, I work for a hotel, when i came here (hotel) i found a network using unifi ac pro, to access wifi in this unifi the client have to put a user name and password! Now i brought news unifi6 and i want to do the same configuration but i can't do it....can u help me please?
Great video and feel your pain with all this wall fishing - makes me feel better about my frustrations when doing the same in my house.
Side question: what did you use to create the diagram video after the "rats nest of cables" comment?
Thanks for the compliment and comment! The wall fishing takes so much longer than folks would think.
I use Adobe After Effects for all my animations.
I need help. The third WAP will not light blue
if I have poe switch do I still need to use injector!!
Your cat!!!!!!!!!!!! I love your cat :)
I would've just installed a keystone walljack instead of running wires through the open wall plate. Good job though.
The plates you mentioned are much cleaner; I like them. I may switch to those once I figure out how many devices I'm going to hardwire, or just over estimate by a lot.
Thanks!
Great video! Looking to take this project one at my house very soon. Are you available for just some general questions I have? Just want to talk through my steps and process to make sure I am not missing anything. Would greatly appreciate it! @schonz
I have ubiquiti in my house. A POE switch changes all of this!
Damn, thats a lot of work. I will let the construction workers handle this
Only possible with US paper houses.
Just unnecessary to do this amount of work. Put AP on the wall instead or just under a TV cabinet, your wifi will barely change. What are you gonna see a difference of, maybe 20mbps?
Crazy how cheap american houses are built😅
You talking too much that's the problem