@@GeekyLuigi idk, this is probably the most relatable series on the channel. No one truly fixes a wifi problem, you just either kick the can down the road, or trade one problem for another!
@@phoenuxx Meanwhile, I have 3 different routers and they generally just work with a decent zone of overlap. 1 is the crappy built into the modem router and the other 2 are wireless N routers from over a decade ago. I never really saturate any of the routers and most devices operate within their given zone. For the ones that do, switching can be done as needed.
I moved from Unifi to TP-Link Omada recently and OH MY GOD things have been SO much better. Better stability, less disconnects, significantly better signal strength, and no random bugs. The only downside is that they've had some manufacturing holdups so their 6E devices aren't available yet.
I had the exact opposite experience, from tp-link to unifi. Unifi for me is a game changer! also tp-link apparently getting banned by US gov. for security reasons.
@@faustinpippin9208you answered that yourself with your 250m^2 part. I know it seems simple but once you get passed 3000 sq ft you run into lots of issues with wifi range and consistency. Most of the hospitals, universities and high end offices you walk into have spent tens of thousands of dollars on wifi.
@@faustinpippin9208 neither do i, but its probably because its not 5ghz and above, so interference ain't a problem nor is it saturating the band with shitty sony audio speakers. Nor you have more than 500mb bandwith capacity
I'm learning this now: nothing ever works, there is always something that makes it flawed. The more advanced I make my house, the more daily annoyances I create. We just aren't there yet.
Building/Home automation has been a industry for ages. Just most this IOT "Smart Home" Devices from fresh brand trying to get in with its own 'language and eco' causes headaches and bad names all over.
This has been the bane of technology since its inception, it's just becoming more prevalent because of how much more frequently we are using it. Additionally, companies are now more concerned about making something "feature Rich" rather than stable
I've been using Unify access points for ages now and I only have good things to say, they're very easy to install and setup. Fantastic for hotels because you can run the cables with POE in about a day and install them just as fast, and this is Hotels I'm taking about with 30-50 of these. I will say the mounting plates for the older models are way easier to install and use
Is it possible that e.g. 4 access points provide a unified WLAN, but the APs only communicate via the POE switch and not via WLAN? Is an Ubiquiti UniFi 6 Lite the product i want? Would be great if you find some time for a short answer.
In the time I’ve been running a 4th gen mobile i5 and a GT(no X) 840M, Linus has gone through… an office, a house, 5 or 6 personal rigs, several network setups, 4 generations of Whonnock, 3 Windows versions, the life and death of at least 2 TH-cam channels (and the resurrection of one), and like half a dozen phones
Your bottleneck on the Ruckus APs was the Ethernet switches, the 6GHz won't give you a better performance over the 5GHz, just the same performance at shorter distances (until Wi-Fi 7). 10 bucks says you'll get a better speed if you went back to Ruckus APs now that you have faster Ethernet uplink. Also your Wi-Fi speaker, you shouldn't hide the base unit behind the cabinet (it even says this in the manual). You can also fix the channel so it stops flapping around.
This is true if the Ruckus AP's have 2.5 gbe interfaces. Some had multiple gigabit interfaces to build a aggregate ethernet bond with from my memory of a few years ago when I looked at them for work.
Linus has made his "tech house" to have many different devices and connections that the probability that one of these things will fail, malfuncton or underperform at a given moment is very high. It's likely he will never stop doing videos about the house.
Well Linus (and consequently Jake too lol) likes to tinker with tech, so he probably enjoys it. And sometimes these videos could be educational in case someone wants to (reasonably) use the product.
Lol this is the stuff i do around my house after the family said "don't spend the money, our internet is fine" I literally have ubiquity access points hidden in drop ceilings in the basement, and one helluva router upstairs with everything possible connected with cat6. A gigabit switch in the basement services the NAS storage, and some other things like VOIP phone modem. I secretly changed the wifi cards in 3 laptops to cards that will support gigabit wireless ( gigabit connection to the modem ) and literally nobody noticed except a visitor at christmas who jumped on a computer in the living room to state "WHAT THE HELL KIND OF INTERNET DO YOU HAVE" after trying to download a game for the kids realizing that the download speed was coming in at about 1.2gigabit ( yes we get more than we pay for dont ask me why ) I do these things for me. Really nobody else cares, or they are so used to things just working perfectly around here they think its automagic.
Same here. I'm running (refurbished) rackmount hardware in my closet, dedicated cat 6 ethernet to every room, wifi 6 mesh network, gigabit internet...I do it for me. The plebs don't appreciate it
If your in Canada, then the reason why you "get more than you pay for" is 2 of our major providers (Bell and Rogers) actually overprovision their packages. I've actually seen the rogers 500mbit package download at 900mbit constantly. Bell overprovisions by a percentage. As an example 1.5gbit would actually be allowed to get 1.8gbit in total
Just had the "why doesn't our internet just work, this one is cheaper" discussion with a cloud-only modem and router that doesn't even support port forwarding. Or other routers. I hate everything and am going start watching TH-cam by carrier pigeon.
@@baums547 traditional garage door openers are for the plebeians -- men like linus need an overly-engineered wifi dependent garage door opener, the true patricians choice.
@@canalcoloradoaado Sir, you're on Bell Canada and it's illegal to download past 10 Mbit/s in 2023, I'll give you a warning ticket and next time please stay below 5mbit/s or our routers gonna get finicky, sorry not sorry.
Part of me: man, Linus always gets the slick home upgrades for free Other part of me: Thanks Linus for providing honest reviews on products I’ll consider
@@DR19X He's dropped multiple sponsors for shitty behavior (Ring and Anker to name a couple), amended videos (as best as he is legally and technically able), and always tries to differentiate between sponsored videos and non-sponsored ones. He's proven time and again that he is honest and when he makes a mistake he owns up to it (not always to the liking of his critics but then you can never please everyone).
@@grn1 a quick example that comes to my mind when he got early access to the 3090 and was boasting about that card gaming on 8K but in reality it was a far reach and an advertising stunt. Perhaps dropping small money does not hurt as much as nicking Nvidia where few other TH-camrs stood their grounds. The only tech TH-camr I trust is GN and maybe another German channel i forgot their name. LTT is fine for entertainment.
@@DR19X Clickbait and stunts sell, he's flat out said this and he's flat out told us that he runs a business and has to make money. In that video he also showed that it was a bit of a stretch and admitted that 8K gaming wasn't realistic yet (still isn't). I think he does a pretty good job of balancing honest reviews and high standards with the needs of his company.
It's nice to have somebody like linus to waste him money on early adopter tech. You can help him install it, and learn a bit about it... then let him test it. A yeah later, when it is 3/4 less money, you can decide if you want one, based on the problems he had with his, and if they have been solved.
Whenever you need to mount anything with keyholes, the best way to do it is to take a piece of clear tape long enough so that it lays over both holes. Then, take a pen or sharpie and color the tape over the depression where the holes are, giving you the exact shape and distance of the holes. Then just take off that piece of tape and attach it to the surface you're mounting the thing to, drilling your mounting holes inside the colored in parts. Perfect distances every time without having to measure.
I think they were having the opposite problem - trying to line up the keyholes with the screws. I've used this method before as well though and it definitely works.
@@RyanGrissett I mean Linus is using tons of industrial powerful hotspots and he literally said that he is going to use the whole 6 Hz radio spectrum. Basically if anyone else tries to use Wi-Fi 6E near Linus's house it's gonna be a wild ride!
@@denismurin Hopefully he doesn’t have any neighbors like me who have an EMP generator that is used to make room for their own products to work. Block me from using a product I paid for and you won’t like what it will cost you.
@@denismurin 6ghz has less range, so interference between houses is even less than 5ghz, interference is already less of an issue for people in homes vs apartments. Also they aren't industrial/crazy they're just higher end small business APs.
This is a great insight into the problem with smart homes. I know Linus is using the videos to monetise it but still it's a great cautionary tale and I'm happy to see the honesty here with all the issues. Most reviewers just review equipment like that router, state it's specs, get paid to do so and that's that. Nice to see real world use.
It would be nice to see a bufferbloat test on wifi 6E comparing it to wifi 6 and wifi 5. That would help to measure wifi 6E benefits for people who like to play games while also transferring huge files using wi-fi or even using wifi 6E access points as wireless repeaters for multiple users.
the Ruckus AP could have totally done it, even only a few, but they take a bit more configuration-- they're meant to be installed in a large enterprise with a qualified installer
@@QualityDoggo Exactly , Linus is an influencer. He does not spend 60 hours a week installing WiFi or engineering custom programming or hardware solutions from scratch for people. You learn the most when you have an enterprise with over 1000 people to email you if the 100's of WiFi AP's you installed are not up to par.
Your Ruckus stuff are actually good. You spent a fortune on so many enterprise AP but you didn't spend a dime on a WLAN controller. You need to get Ruckus Smart Zone as the WLAN controller will automatically optimize the AP transmit power of each individual AP so that you won't get weird inteference 0:08
This 👆and you need to spend time adjusting the dials and knobs with Ruckus to make it compatible with consumer oriented hardware like Sonos and Bonjour, it’s well documented. I’d take Ruckus 6 over Ubiquiti 6E every time.
Presumably it would also support better AP hand off to make sure the clients move between overlapping AP's with less issue. Most enterprise setups do this and easily handle 1000's of devices in high density environments with overlapping AP's.
Ehh, auto cell sizing on the smart zone/vSZ still isn't great. In my experience, it usually pushes one or two APs to max Tx power, and then the rest around them to minimum. I will say that management is leagues better there than on Unleashed though, so spending the money on licensing for a vSZ would be a good call.
It’s all about tailoring the RF to the environment it’s in. Unleashed, Cloud or Smartzone can all do this if you know what settings to tweak. I’m the Technical Director of Purdicom (third largest Ruckus distributor in the world) and we do this day in day out to help out resellers. The devil is in the detail as they say.
@@akasaa yep, that's the difference between enterprise and consumer electronics. almost all their complaints are unimportant or fixable in enterprise scenarios but LMG is much more focused on Prosumer-Electronics than IT-Infrastructure
As someone who has installed a lot of Ruckus and other WiFi systems professionally the outdoor WAPs are much more directional than indoor WAPs. It should be mounted vertically as to broadcast over a driveway or a yard, not pointed at the ground as you end up sending most of your signal and range into the dirt.
If you run separate Wi-Fi networks from multiple APs all with the same name You just have to turn on band steering to let the AP and device negotiate which network to connect to. If it's a device that can only connect with 2.4 then it will connect with 2.4 but if the device can go with five or six GHz it will steer that device toward those networks instead. With ubiquiti I've had good experiences with fans during working pretty well.
The only shit thing is when you want to have all the 5/6ghz bandwidth to yourself but there’s other 5/6ghz capable devices that connect to your network.
Considering how the recent home upgrades have gone I feel there is a decent chance that two weeks from now on the WAN show Linus is going to say: "So Jake have to replace all my Wi-Fi access points again."
Great Video. Been using a Dream Machine Pro for about a year and it's been day and night. Started hitting my limits with my Nighthawk and needed something to keep up with my smart devices. Companies really need to start making routers that allow at least 100 devices for regular users. Good move going to Ubiquiti.
I think we need a dedicated episode on how to design and setup a home network: best practices, common issues and how to avoid them, how to isolate dodgy IoT devices that are more susceptible to hacking from your other devices, etc.
As soon as I saw that original Wi-Fi video for the new house, I knew the lack of Wi-Fi 6E would become a problem later. At least it’s being addressed now.
It isn't problem, he isn't in commercial estate full of office workes for it to be problem. Why are you commenting if you don't have any idea of actual differences between wifi standards?
@@username8644 If you've never used your phone to open your gate/garage your missing out, it's so much better than normal keys, but i use both just incase still
@@vgaggia dumbest thing I've heard today. It takes far less time to open the garage with the garage door opener. It takes forever to get your phone out, unlock the phone, open the app then finally open the garage door if it even works at all. By the time you've done that I'm already inside the house enjoying an ice cold Pepsi while laughing at you because you can't get the door to open.
In Australia Intel forgot to enable the 6e bands on their chips, so HP (and other brands with the same chips) laptops couldn't see the 6e networks! That was fun to troubleshoot
@@jpsimmonds-au let's compare it guys, iam in pretty much 3rd tier city in central Java, Indonesia, I pay about us$20/month for 'unlimited' 30mbps fiber (500gb FUP), + disney hotstar. We also have 2 more competitor that maybe ready in our area this year. What about you? Ps. It's $60 for 100mbps with 2TB fup
If you enable "Band Steering" in the unifi control panel, you might be able to have the APs force your compatible devices to the 6E network. It's enabled by default in newer versions of the control panel, but since you've been running the unifi gear for a while, it's possible that it's disabled on your end.
But if the device, like say a phone, is aware of it's location and has Canada in a lookup table that says "you can't use the 6GHz band here" it'll just refuse to connect.
I'm sure his neighbours all have gigabit too at his new mansion. The old house maybe not, but the new one has people rich enough to just hire a WiFi guy to fix their whole home network.
I think you would actually find that if you removed some of the Ruckus APs you would actually get better speed and connections. We use Ruckus and we deploy half the APs we would install if it were Aruba or Ubiquity. Because of the directional antenna array technology Ruckus uses they actually operate better with a sparser deployment.
e Exactly, dont get me started on aruba aps. Huge difference when youre used to installing Ruckus, hope they ramp up their production and solve their supply chain issues.
I knew it would go terribly when Linus first said he wanted basically everything in his house to be "smart", it's been what, two years and things barely work at all. Not to mention another problem with his house is that without the server everything shuts down, his house is going to be basically impossible to sell if they ever do that because it'd need everything ripped out to be functional for an average person
He gets a lot of content from his house not working, so he kinda makes money from its problems, which is pretty nice. Plus with the amount of work he's putting into it, I don't see him ever selling it.
@@memethief4113 Linus is pretty smart, he probably already considered that all the things he's doing would make it difficult to sell. So he definitely thinks of it as a long term residence at the very least.
6e with new spectrum was a game changer for me living next to an airport with radar that knocks my and my neighbors 5Ghz APs to the same interfering channels constantly. Downside is device support is minimal right now.
Funnily enough, as someone who works in a public school district tech department, we have those exact same Wireless APs implemented in our highschool and student's 1:1 Chromebooks have similar issues with connection as Linus. Our department never even considered that devices may be connecting to APs that are on another floor or further away than the classroom they are in. We have that AP in almost every classroom so it may be that the range is cranked, will update this post if lowering the strength solves the problem.
has been some time since i was in the settings of the unifi setup at work but if i remember it right there was an setting that allowed you to define a threshold value on which you clients will switch from on AP to the next. also pretty sure you define it in dBm. ihope i could help, if you finda fix for the problem i would love to get a headsup what fixed it
Hey, I work at a school district as well. Been dealing with these AP since October and it's been a nightmare. We did a lot of troubleshooting and got some interesting results.
@@Coz131 lol.. Aside from "wifi specialist" not being a thing in the general world, you missed "public school district tech department". They budget probably barely covers toilet paper let alone bringing in consultants.
You actually DON'T want that many AP's. You want maybe a 10-15% overlap of coverage. Any more than that you'll get interferences, and the devices will hop between AP's to often. My guess based on what I see is 2 AP's to cover your house. And then 1 in the garage, on the furthest wall away from the interior house (ie, closest to the garage doors).
He probably needs 2 but you can definitely use 3+ and properly get it to work if you play with the thresholds and adjust your power as well. I have 2.4GHz as a completely different SSID and only use it for security equipment and then placed (3) WiFi 6 APs Ethernet backhauled mesh. There isn’t a place in our 1200sqft home that doesn’t get 400mbit/s or higher on our iPhones and iPhone doesn’t have WiFi 6. My laptop gets hella fast speeds. Once apple upgrades to 6E I’ll probably run 2-3 of the same APs they are using in the video.
In my house, I absolutely needed a lot of APs due to concrete columns and steel in the construction. Even a small wall will absolutely destroy 6GHz. The roaming on these U6Es is very good. I am facing the same frustration with the country-locked 6GHz but easily fixed as per the video. I don't have the problem of wifi leaking through between floors in the building as the slab is about 25-30cm, call it 10 inches roughly, with again plenty of rebar in it. My recommendation would be to use the Unifi tools to map the signal out. The LR6+ isn't as good, it is basically the Lite version. The U6 Long-Range is the one that is the same level, but it is heavy (metal bracket to fit) and runs pretty toasty. That said, even the Lite models are actually not bad; I just prefer the Pro ones or Enterprise due to them getting much more frequent firmware updates and having a very huge install base -> any problems will be found and fixed up more quickly. One catch - Ubiquiti has started verifying the country of credit card vs country of delivery recently (as in, Feb 2023). If it doesn't match and you buy a lot of gear, they may flag as fraud and cancel the order. They really want you to use the local (country) distributor. This, even though I cannot buy 1/5th of the gear where I live. I have a lot of their gear including the (regular) NVR. IF you can buy the equipment, it works very well. I would avoid EA products unless you run a lab or are prepared to put up with some 'fun'. Wifi 6E is very nice when it works, but even if most of your clients use Wifi 5 or 6, or even still Wifi 4 for IOT, these APs have a level of capacity that is unlikely to be a bottleneck even if you have hundreds of clients on a single AP.
@@MrGivmedew I’m assuming you mean iPhones don’t have Wi-Fi 6E. Because my iPhone constantly has faster speeds than the PS5, sitting side by side and I know the PS5 has Wi-Fi 6
@@AmongUs-mb4qx How bad is Canadian internet? (cost and speed wise I mean). We just got upgraded finally after like 3 or so years of waiting for fiber to become available and the best we can get at reasonable pricing is 1gig down 50mbps up for $149 a month. Australia btw.
he cant solve his issues because he doesnt know Wi-Fi. ID be curious what the config on his vSZ even is, let alone if he has an ax capable device, although id assume he does with the inflated speedtests.
The solution is simple; lower the saturation of wifi devices in the house area and things will be better. I do know about those Unifi APs and they are wicked fast. I had experienced their quickness when moving between 3 floors in a very saturated building and aside from some hiccups from a couple misbehaving, the experience was amazing! Being able to go floor to floor, while in a meeting on my tablet, the only issue experienced while doing that was elevators blocked a lot of the signal, which was not a huge issue as once the doors open on another floor I am immediately attached to the nearest AP.
I love this series. I don’t feel so alone in my Wi-Fi endeavors. Ruckus is usually a reliable commercial solution, don’t get me started on trying to use Eero in a similar fashion!
I live in Ontario Canada, and I'm with Bell for home internet, and I've has wifi 6E for about a year, I love it because I can get over 1gb download, and almost 1gb upload
With the waterproof access point, can you do a video to see if you can add wifi under the water in your pool? Not sure if that even works, but would be interesting to find out.
Considering that microwaves are around 2.3 GHz and they definitely interact with water (think microwave ovens) your changes of transmitting any data over those frequencies in water are slim to none.
put your phone in a waterproof bag underwater and see how fast everything loses confection, waterproof is probable for ease of mind when outside in the rain
@@gman4141007 Waterproof is about not getting water on the PCB which would break your hardware and destroy all stored data. And maybe for some underwater photos.
I’ve just got 2Gbps fibre line fitted in the most remote part of the UK you could imagine, yet you’d be lucky anywhere else (unless a new build) to get 60mbps - we are so far behind in average speeds. 😂 congrats on the Wi-Fi project so far!
Probably because a lot of countries already had widespread adoption of cable TV whereas the UK doesn't and uses phone lines, much less suitable for data transmission than cable
@@username8644 I played Xbox 360 live for 3 years on 1.5MB ATT and .33 upload and even used to watch a bunch of Netflix but it was 480p or worse. I have 50 now and that even seems like a ton to me. Place where I might move to only has 15 download and another place I was gonna move to only have Hughes Net and Starlink and nothing else. Even tried every mobile hotspot and no coverage as a test before we were going to move there.
Next video: "I can't shower because my rgb gaming bathroom won't update the firmware, we need to reconnect the bathroom to a new server so the water can come"
5:40 - TOP TIP for key hole mounts - photocopy / scan and print the back of the unit - cut holes in the print out where your fixings are- use the paper as a guide to drill holes. Life made easier :)
@@handlemonium it really depends what you have on your phone. I have my bank's app and even though every action requires verification I would not let anyone else see how much I have on my accounts or what stocks I have bought. If you have different phone for personal things and that was work phone, then sure why not.
The fact that he had more than one Ruckus AP in house is crazy. They are arena grade. You would need maybe two. And then one external one. Hope his UniFi ones work better.
Can't compare an arena to a 5k sqft home with solid wood cabinetry, stone materials, insulation, etc. 5ghz and 6ghz don't penetrate well, a problem you don't have in an open air warehouse or stadium.
@sluflyer06 jokes on you, he already tested with 1 unit and he had good connection everywhere in his house. So yes, he only needs 1-2 in house and 1 outside for the garage
Hi Linus, I am currently in “genetic testing” to properly match my voice to what my character model will look like. I do truly appreciate the hard work you have done for all of us.
FYI for Jake, you need at least IP X7 to be submergable... X5 = low pressure jet (hose) if I'm remebering correctly. X6 = high pressure jet. X7 = 1m submersible for 30m. X8 > X7 but manufacturer specified. X9K = Steam washable (there is no "9" as far as I've seen).
There's a setting to handle ap hand-off. Polling threshold, which allows you to target a specific signal strength. Set that to a lower strength 35db. If this setting isnt working you have way too many ap devices
With that many high powered wifi access points so close together, they would be overpowering each other. Just imagine two or more overhead projectors all aimed at the same wall. You might be able to make out a few words but you can't make out the full message of any single projector. Even if their not on the same frequency a strong signal could overpower another connection.
@6:03 it looks like a second set of Porsche wheels and tires. Unless Yvonne traded in the minivan I think, we just found out what kind of car Linus got. Can't wait to see the wrap on it!
honestly it is not just fixing, video doesn't mentioned that old ones were 1GB uplink max, while Unifi 6 Enterprise have 2.5GB uplink. + wifi 6 is better in terms where it uses wifi 4 + wifi 5 frequencies and have better ways of handling different speed clients. Somewhy video focusing only on 6E extension.
Should have waited for WiFi 7 as I heard that it has tracking where it tracks the connected device with pin point accuracy and jumps between nodes based on where we are instead of how strong the signal is. The jump is said to be instantaneous with 0 loss of packets while switching. Yes that is crazy. But good see that finally true seamless mesh systems be coming.
Did LMG just break Unifi's Early Access Policy of doing media on early access devices? I thought Unifi had a policy like that at some point? Love seeing more Unifi content!
I lost faith in Ubiquity around 5 years ago. I get weird disconnects and the range is greatly weakened over time. Some APs needs frequent restart to make them work again. Switched to TP-link omada, and my oppinion is that the management software is more easy to use. The range is better and very stable. It's a thermal spa with camping and 60 room accomodation. There are 700 devices connected at daytime and around 300 at night.
Even on less expensive wifi setups you can assign certain hardware to particular access points or range extenders by locking mac addresses into those APs.
I remember when I did a deep dive into wifi installation, too many AP's is actually a bad thing. You want the signals to overlap at the edge of their optimal speed range. I bet if he paid someone to do a wifi survey for optimal placement of his AP's they would probably recommend 1 or 2 Ruckus AP's max
This was my thought too. I bet one AP on level 3 and one on level 1 would work much more reliably. Maybe the speed wouldn’t be super fast once you’re far away from the access point but devices with a high bandwidth requirement should be connected via ethernet if you want reliability. Realistically you should have all IOT devices on 2.4g, and no more than 2-3 mobile devices per person connecting via wifi, 1 of which should ever be a significant load at any one time.
@@pixels_per_inch mesh is never a good idea. You don't want the AP signals to overlap, you want the edges of the signal to over lap. Mesh always cuts you speed in half because it has to relay back to the main haul and talk back.
I think you are thinking of lame people mesh. It’s still called mesh even if it’s Ethernet backhauled. The problem with mesh is that if you don’t know what you are doing you won’t set the threshold for signal correctly and you’ll stay connected to the wrong AP for too long. But these same problems happen when you have all separated APs with different names unless you have an android phone and it does a decent job at switching on its own. iPhone def don’t do that and neither do laptops. I’ve gone both ways in my house. Mesh has been problematic at times but when I replace my 3 APs it will probably be with the ones they are using in this video. Right now I get 500mbit/s anywhere in my house on an iPhone and iPhone isn’t WiFi 6 or WiFi 6e yet. I have a WiFi 6 network for now and will upgrade it to 6E if and when apple gets 6E.
The issue with upload speeds being much greater than download speeds with ubiquiti APs is one I also experience. Have tried everything to resolve it but download is still usually half the max upload
I love when people who dont really know about the architecture and planning of access points and route and switching, create videos like this.....remember when he said change your mtu to get faster data speeds? what a guy....
1:03 "It should be fine, and if it's not, Jake has promised me that he will personally reinstall ALL of my existing rukus access points" He almost certainly did not LMAO
Linus with 6 router+access points: "I have no internet, internet drops between rooms" Me with 1 router: "internet goes everywhere in my house and beyond on the street."
Let's face it: Linus will not be happy with his wifi speeds until he can download 8k video on his smart fridge in under 3 seconds Edit: I love how my comment has been stolen and overtaken by a bot LETS DEFEAT THAT BOT
12:00 I think you guys should optimize to reduce bufferbloat. Having bloat from 5 ms to 9-13 ms is not really bad but you can do better than that. In most cases for real world uses it's better to sacrifice even 25% of your bandwidth if you can avoid bufferbloat as a result.
Not sure what you're on about with buffer bloat on 1+Gbit speeds. It's a speed test over WiFi... I'm certainly not going to drop over 200Mbit down to "reduce buffer bloat" when realistically you hardly see it anyway as not too much even maxes it out. Mostly an issue with weak connections and multiple people using it but in my case everyone in the house could be streaming Ultra HD at the same time and no one would notice, Linus has has more up / down than my 1Gbit down and 45Mbit up.
@@MidnightMarrow It really depends what's the worst case latency you accept. For absolutely minimal latency, you should stay around less than 50% of max bandwidth if you have multiple clients on the same network without co-operation. Sure, you can get *average* latency very low pretty easily but look that the max latency for the whole connection and it will show different results if you try to go close to 100% bandwidth with multiple clients. Watching movies is really hard and you'll barely notice even 5000 ms bufferbloat for that. Playing networked games or even doing full page reload is where the latency will show up more.
@@MikkoRantalainen I do play games whilst multiple people steam uhd content and download via steam. I absolutely had issues when I had 100mbit down thus I threw down the cash for gigabit and now my pings are consistent no matter what everyone else is doing whereas when I had 100mbit I was constantly spiking from less than 100ms to 800+. The only issue I could run into is if the measley 45 up were to get saturated but that doesn't happen as I'm the only one here that actually utilizes upload bandwidth.
Coming up next: Linus can't flush his toilet until his router gets upgraded.
I don’t but it past him to stupify his house even more
there's a fix for that 😂
They should make it into april fools video lmao
Ok but this whole saga is kinda funny, serves as a good reason against smart homes lol
Is it bad that i won't be surprised if this happens?
Can't wait for Linus to do this all again when Wifi 7 products release next year.
Lol.
We already got wifi 7 in the s23 ultra but not enabled yet
Too real. I have 5gb service waiting for 7 to run a mesh.
the heart tho 💀
Too many wireless EMFs which are toxic to the body in the long term, the higher the GHz the more disruptive to the human biofield.
Can't wait for the next video about them fixing their wifi for the 20th time.
Well it's only a week away so you don't have to wait long
Really is starting to get annoying huh.
@@GeekyLuigi idk, this is probably the most relatable series on the channel. No one truly fixes a wifi problem, you just either kick the can down the road, or trade one problem for another!
@@phoenuxx Idk... ive never had wifi issues..
@@phoenuxx Meanwhile, I have 3 different routers and they generally just work with a decent zone of overlap. 1 is the crappy built into the modem router and the other 2 are wireless N routers from over a decade ago.
I never really saturate any of the routers and most devices operate within their given zone. For the ones that do, switching can be done as needed.
I moved from Unifi to TP-Link Omada recently and OH MY GOD things have been SO much better. Better stability, less disconnects, significantly better signal strength, and no random bugs. The only downside is that they've had some manufacturing holdups so their 6E devices aren't available yet.
I had the exact opposite experience, from tp-link to unifi. Unifi for me is a game changer! also tp-link apparently getting banned by US gov. for security reasons.
@ ironically I ended up switching back to UniFi a few months ago. My stint with tp link didn’t last long 😂😂
@@ChrisMajesticyeah not bad products, just annoying to diagnose when you do get issues as the user interface and settings is designed for a toddler
The project of Linus new house is a perfect example of infinite money not solving every issue
Meanwhile my 10$ router provides flawless connection in my entire 250m^2 house
I dont get it
@@faustinpippin9208 you probably don't have hundreds of wifi smart switches causing interference
@@faustinpippin9208you answered that yourself with your 250m^2 part. I know it seems simple but once you get passed 3000 sq ft you run into lots of issues with wifi range and consistency. Most of the hospitals, universities and high end offices you walk into have spent tens of thousands of dollars on wifi.
@@faustinpippin9208 neither do i, but its probably because its not 5ghz and above, so interference ain't a problem nor is it saturating the band with shitty sony audio speakers. Nor you have more than 500mb bandwith capacity
@@faustinpippin9208 I mean I doubt it’s flawless compared to Linus’ wifi standards. I would also doubt your internet would even break 200Mbps
I'm learning this now: nothing ever works, there is always something that makes it flawed. The more advanced I make my house, the more daily annoyances I create. We just aren't there yet.
Building/Home automation has been a industry for ages. Just most this IOT "Smart Home" Devices from fresh brand trying to get in with its own 'language and eco' causes headaches and bad names all over.
@@junkieshere That's kind of what I've suspected. Too many brands, no one standard and too many eco systems. Nothing works.
@@junkieshere Matter will *hopefully* fixes that
This has been the bane of technology since its inception, it's just becoming more prevalent because of how much more frequently we are using it. Additionally, companies are now more concerned about making something "feature Rich" rather than stable
cable > wireless, this is my takeover from this, if something can be connected via cable do it and use wireless tech only when its neccessary.
ah the series that never ends, linus's wifi problems
In 70 years: my WiFi doesn't work anymore, Jake junior replaced it with a 10 terrabit/s AP.
Because he does it wrong, this is pretty fun to see
Wifi == Problems and Jank
more like linux sponsored segments.
I think you mean Linus's never-ending home problems
I've been using Unify access points for ages now and I only have good things to say, they're very easy to install and setup. Fantastic for hotels because you can run the cables with POE in about a day and install them just as fast, and this is Hotels I'm taking about with 30-50 of these.
I will say the mounting plates for the older models are way easier to install and use
Is it possible that e.g. 4 access points provide a unified WLAN, but the APs only communicate via the POE switch and not via WLAN? Is an Ubiquiti UniFi 6 Lite the product i want? Would be great if you find some time for a short answer.
Linus's son convinced him to get better wifi. I love family stuff like this.
you mean his husband
@@thebyzocker husson, sonband?
@@thebyzocker wut
@@thebyzocker You just have to accept it is both.
I thought Jake is his wife 🤣
Linus fixes and changes his wifi more often than most people upgrade their computers.
Wait..that doesn't make sense..?? (nagging feeling I've just been baited)
In the time I’ve been running a 4th gen mobile i5 and a GT(no X) 840M, Linus has gone through… an office, a house, 5 or 6 personal rigs, several network setups, 4 generations of Whonnock, 3 Windows versions, the life and death of at least 2 TH-cam channels (and the resurrection of one), and like half a dozen phones
Linus fixes and changes his wifi more often than most people change their passwords
I swear he just installs garbage solutions for content
@@shellderp Ubquiti is not a garbage solution been using them for years
Who else was waiting for Dennis to come crashing through the ceiling
Sliding down the stairs.
Your bottleneck on the Ruckus APs was the Ethernet switches, the 6GHz won't give you a better performance over the 5GHz, just the same performance at shorter distances (until Wi-Fi 7). 10 bucks says you'll get a better speed if you went back to Ruckus APs now that you have faster Ethernet uplink. Also your Wi-Fi speaker, you shouldn't hide the base unit behind the cabinet (it even says this in the manual). You can also fix the channel so it stops flapping around.
This is true if the Ruckus AP's have 2.5 gbe interfaces. Some had multiple gigabit interfaces to build a aggregate ethernet bond with from my memory of a few years ago when I looked at them for work.
@@ggletsplay5041 he’s using R750 which has 2.5GbE uplink.
Linus has made his "tech house" to have many different devices and connections that the probability that one of these things will fail, malfuncton or underperform at a given moment is very high. It's likely he will never stop doing videos about the house.
I believe that may be the point actually haha
Well Linus (and consequently Jake too lol) likes to tinker with tech, so he probably enjoys it. And sometimes these videos could be educational in case someone wants to (reasonably) use the product.
A new kind of bug infestation...
That's how you write a house off as a business expense. And as we learned in the last wan show, writing it off means he doesn't pay for it at all
content
Nothing hit quite right than a WiFi video from Linus
@Aingeal Dhè no fun Nelly
The fact I haven’t seen a Linus vid in a awhile and then I see Linus with a Wi-Fi thumbnail
@@eclipsemantis 🤓
Lol this is the stuff i do around my house after the family said "don't spend the money, our internet is fine" I literally have ubiquity access points hidden in drop ceilings in the basement, and one helluva router upstairs with everything possible connected with cat6. A gigabit switch in the basement services the NAS storage, and some other things like VOIP phone modem. I secretly changed the wifi cards in 3 laptops to cards that will support gigabit wireless ( gigabit connection to the modem ) and literally nobody noticed except a visitor at christmas who jumped on a computer in the living room to state "WHAT THE HELL KIND OF INTERNET DO YOU HAVE" after trying to download a game for the kids realizing that the download speed was coming in at about 1.2gigabit ( yes we get more than we pay for dont ask me why ) I do these things for me. Really nobody else cares, or they are so used to things just working perfectly around here they think its automagic.
Same here. I'm running (refurbished) rackmount hardware in my closet, dedicated cat 6 ethernet to every room, wifi 6 mesh network, gigabit internet...I do it for me. The plebs don't appreciate it
Not every hero wears a cape. Respect
The hero we needed, but don't deserve! Well done to you good sir!
If your in Canada, then the reason why you "get more than you pay for" is 2 of our major providers (Bell and Rogers) actually overprovision their packages. I've actually seen the rogers 500mbit package download at 900mbit constantly. Bell overprovisions by a percentage. As an example 1.5gbit would actually be allowed to get 1.8gbit in total
Just had the "why doesn't our internet just work, this one is cheaper" discussion with a cloud-only modem and router that doesn't even support port forwarding. Or other routers. I hate everything and am going start watching TH-cam by carrier pigeon.
I had Ruckus in my house for a couple of years. Now I have the Tp-Link BE550 Wifi7. Great coverage!
Staff wants to install enterprise WiFi at Linus' house because everyone's planning on moving into the attic
#AtticAddicts 😏
Ubiquiti has never been "enterprise". For proper enterprise wifi that you're better looking at manufacturers like Aruba or Mist.
I wouldn't call Ubiquiti enterprise.
It's always interesting watching tech guys over engineer something as simple as home wifi.
He can't open his garage door without wifi, has he heard of a garage door opener? They come standard with most if not all automatic garage doors.
@@baums547 traditional garage door openers are for the plebeians -- men like linus need an overly-engineered wifi dependent garage door opener, the true patricians choice.
Coming up next: Smart toilet but can't flush it because the Wi-FI is down and needs to be upgraded to Wi-Fi poopsi-E
@@baums547 *random guy comes up and clones the shitty door opener's Signal* ruh oh 😱😱
They are tech novices they demonstrate that every week...
only linus can break the law with Wi-Fi speeds
Edit:
Thought I was gonna thank you for the likes? Think again.
Do the mounties enforce e-speeding?
@@Flooding474 yes, ive seen a police officer with a download speedometer while coming to yt
@@canalcoloradoaado Sir, you're on Bell Canada and it's illegal to download past 10 Mbit/s in 2023, I'll give you a warning ticket and next time please stay below 5mbit/s or our routers gonna get finicky, sorry not sorry.
It's to do with the radio spectrum WiFi 6E uses not being made available in Canada for public use yet.
@@Flooding474 they enforced people with bouncy castles and honking horns so probably.
Part of me: man, Linus always gets the slick home upgrades for free
Other part of me: Thanks Linus for providing honest reviews on products I’ll consider
"honest"
@@DR19X He's dropped multiple sponsors for shitty behavior (Ring and Anker to name a couple), amended videos (as best as he is legally and technically able), and always tries to differentiate between sponsored videos and non-sponsored ones. He's proven time and again that he is honest and when he makes a mistake he owns up to it (not always to the liking of his critics but then you can never please everyone).
@@grn1 a quick example that comes to my mind when he got early access to the 3090 and was boasting about that card gaming on 8K but in reality it was a far reach and an advertising stunt. Perhaps dropping small money does not hurt as much as nicking Nvidia where few other TH-camrs stood their grounds. The only tech TH-camr I trust is GN and maybe another German channel i forgot their name. LTT is fine for entertainment.
@@DR19X Clickbait and stunts sell, he's flat out said this and he's flat out told us that he runs a business and has to make money. In that video he also showed that it was a bit of a stretch and admitted that 8K gaming wasn't realistic yet (still isn't). I think he does a pretty good job of balancing honest reviews and high standards with the needs of his company.
@@DR19X Put some respect on Hardware Unboxed's name.
They are the closest to Gamers Nexus.
Jake living vicariously thru Linus and his money spending it on gadgets he’d wanna play with 😂
except Jake already had those aps sooooooooooo
Not so vicariously tho as it seems it's more literally living with Linus' gadgets
I'd agree if I hadn't seen his Extreme Tech Upgrade and he hadn't mentioned already having these APs in his house.
It's nice to have somebody like linus to waste him money on early adopter tech.
You can help him install it, and learn a bit about it... then let him test it.
A yeah later, when it is 3/4 less money, you can decide if you want one, based on the problems he had with his, and if they have been solved.
“You just need to open your garage right?”
Whenever you need to mount anything with keyholes, the best way to do it is to take a piece of clear tape long enough so that it lays over both holes. Then, take a pen or sharpie and color the tape over the depression where the holes are, giving you the exact shape and distance of the holes. Then just take off that piece of tape and attach it to the surface you're mounting the thing to, drilling your mounting holes inside the colored in parts. Perfect distances every time without having to measure.
Thanks for this life hack
I've done this with a printer scanner instead
omg love this!
I think they were having the opposite problem - trying to line up the keyholes with the screws. I've used this method before as well though and it definitely works.
Randomly scrolling TH-cam comments and getting a LIFE LESSON for free. Thank you!
I would love to see Linus’s neighbors faces when they update to Wi-Fi 6E and they realize that they have military style full band jammer near them
What do you mean?
@@RyanGrissett I mean Linus is using tons of industrial powerful hotspots and he literally said that he is going to use the whole 6 Hz radio spectrum. Basically if anyone else tries to use Wi-Fi 6E near Linus's house it's gonna be a wild ride!
@@denismurin oh i see now, thanks!
@@denismurin Hopefully he doesn’t have any neighbors like me who have an EMP generator that is used to make room for their own products to work. Block me from using a product I paid for and you won’t like what it will cost you.
@@denismurin 6ghz has less range, so interference between houses is even less than 5ghz, interference is already less of an issue for people in homes vs apartments. Also they aren't industrial/crazy they're just higher end small business APs.
I have no clue why I watch these videos because I have no clue what any of it means but it’s intriguing and I watch anyway 😂
my new Wi-Fi is so fast its illegal..
Wow so is mine.....are you stealing from your neighbor too
Linus’s routers are so overkill, he could sell the WiFi password to his neighbors for a monthly fee and never notice the additional traffic
Pretty much yeah
He could sell it to the city
@@itsnophun I don't think it could reach that many people
Lmaoo😂
Beyond overkill but why not right
This is a great insight into the problem with smart homes. I know Linus is using the videos to monetise it but still it's a great cautionary tale and I'm happy to see the honesty here with all the issues. Most reviewers just review equipment like that router, state it's specs, get paid to do so and that's that. Nice to see real world use.
Using the money to actually make informative and somewhat educational video's? I don't have a problem with that, indeed.
It would be nice to see a bufferbloat test on wifi 6E comparing it to wifi 6 and wifi 5. That would help to measure wifi 6E benefits for people who like to play games while also transferring huge files using wi-fi or even using wifi 6E access points as wireless repeaters for multiple users.
Linus dumps a warehouse of electronics in a house and is surprised when the wifi stops working.
the Ruckus AP could have totally done it, even only a few, but they take a bit more configuration-- they're meant to be installed in a large enterprise with a qualified installer
@@QualityDoggo Exactly , Linus is an influencer. He does not spend 60 hours a week installing WiFi or engineering custom programming or hardware solutions from scratch for people. You learn the most when you have an enterprise with over 1000 people to email you if the 100's of WiFi AP's you installed are not up to par.
Interference......no, can't be that 😏
Your Ruckus stuff are actually good. You spent a fortune on so many enterprise AP but you didn't spend a dime on a WLAN controller. You need to get Ruckus Smart Zone as the WLAN controller will automatically optimize the AP transmit power of each individual AP so that you won't get weird inteference 0:08
This 👆and you need to spend time adjusting the dials and knobs with Ruckus to make it compatible with consumer oriented hardware like Sonos and Bonjour, it’s well documented. I’d take Ruckus 6 over Ubiquiti 6E every time.
Presumably it would also support better AP hand off to make sure the clients move between overlapping AP's with less issue. Most enterprise setups do this and easily handle 1000's of devices in high density environments with overlapping AP's.
Ehh, auto cell sizing on the smart zone/vSZ still isn't great. In my experience, it usually pushes one or two APs to max Tx power, and then the rest around them to minimum. I will say that management is leagues better there than on Unleashed though, so spending the money on licensing for a vSZ would be a good call.
It’s all about tailoring the RF to the environment it’s in.
Unleashed, Cloud or Smartzone can all do this if you know what settings to tweak.
I’m the Technical Director of Purdicom (third largest Ruckus distributor in the world) and we do this day in day out to help out resellers.
The devil is in the detail as they say.
@@akasaa yep, that's the difference between enterprise and consumer electronics. almost all their complaints are unimportant or fixable in enterprise scenarios but LMG is much more focused on Prosumer-Electronics than IT-Infrastructure
Welcome back to another episode of "we're using enterprise grade hardware with beta software again and THIS time it will DEFINITELY fit our use case".
Yes! I cringed when they said Unifi Beta.
As someone who has installed a lot of Ruckus and other WiFi systems professionally the outdoor WAPs are much more directional than indoor WAPs. It should be mounted vertically as to broadcast over a driveway or a yard, not pointed at the ground as you end up sending most of your signal and range into the dirt.
The amount of holes in Linus' house just due to his Internet alone has to be nuts
If you run separate Wi-Fi networks from multiple APs all with the same name You just have to turn on band steering to let the AP and device negotiate which network to connect to. If it's a device that can only connect with 2.4 then it will connect with 2.4 but if the device can go with five or six GHz it will steer that device toward those networks instead. With ubiquiti I've had good experiences with fans during working pretty well.
I enabled that on my Unifi setup at home almost a year ago and it has worked pretty well for me.
The only shit thing is when you want to have all the 5/6ghz bandwidth to yourself but there’s other 5/6ghz capable devices that connect to your network.
@@xDMG15x hybrid approach then. Create _2.4G network with slow stuff and _FAST with 5/6G with automatic steering.
@@vadnegru same, i just use ..._2.4G and ..._5G, when i get Guests i make a new WiFi ..._2.4G Guests
@@SamuelPiresN my fancy router have guest networks with auto disabling after set time.
Considering how the recent home upgrades have gone I feel there is a decent chance that two weeks from now on the WAN show Linus is going to say: "So Jake have to replace all my Wi-Fi access points again."
Great Video. Been using a Dream Machine Pro for about a year and it's been day and night. Started hitting my limits with my Nighthawk and needed something to keep up with my smart devices. Companies really need to start making routers that allow at least 100 devices for regular users. Good move going to Ubiquiti.
I think we need a dedicated episode on how to design and setup a home network: best practices, common issues and how to avoid them, how to isolate dodgy IoT devices that are more susceptible to hacking from your other devices, etc.
But from someone who knows what they're doing
LTT is not the channel for that kind of content
Comedy channel.
As soon as I saw that original Wi-Fi video for the new house, I knew the lack of Wi-Fi 6E would become a problem later. At least it’s being addressed now.
It isn't problem, he isn't in commercial estate full of office workes for it to be problem. Why are you commenting if you don't have any idea of actual differences between wifi standards?
@@username8644 If you've never used your phone to open your gate/garage your missing out, it's so much better than normal keys, but i use both just incase still
Will be a problem when WIFI 7F comes out.
@@wiziek sounds like you're the one who has no clue what he's talking about. Come back when you get certified and learn a few things my guy.
@@vgaggia dumbest thing I've heard today. It takes far less time to open the garage with the garage door opener. It takes forever to get your phone out, unlock the phone, open the app then finally open the garage door if it even works at all. By the time you've done that I'm already inside the house enjoying an ice cold Pepsi while laughing at you because you can't get the door to open.
In Australia Intel forgot to enable the 6e bands on their chips, so HP (and other brands with the same chips) laptops couldn't see the 6e networks! That was fun to troubleshoot
Our internet for the most part sucks anyway
@@Thevegetableslayer you forgot to mention the prices for actually fast internet 😔
@Zaydan Alfariz nope, I am pretty sure Indonesia has better internet
@Zaydan Alfariz Successive federal govs didn't care until it was too late + land size + hot weather + multiple natural disasters each year.
@@jpsimmonds-au let's compare it guys, iam in pretty much 3rd tier city in central Java, Indonesia, I pay about us$20/month for 'unlimited' 30mbps fiber (500gb FUP), + disney hotstar. We also have 2 more competitor that maybe ready in our area this year. What about you?
Ps. It's $60 for 100mbps with 2TB fup
okay, the "it almost sounds like jake" bit really cracked me up 😆
If you enable "Band Steering" in the unifi control panel, you might be able to have the APs force your compatible devices to the 6E network. It's enabled by default in newer versions of the control panel, but since you've been running the unifi gear for a while, it's possible that it's disabled on your end.
But if the device, like say a phone, is aware of it's location and has Canada in a lookup table that says "you can't use the 6GHz band here" it'll just refuse to connect.
@@fermitupoupon1754I never saw that implemented on the client side
if anyone of linus's neighbors in his entire neighborhood figures out his password, they are set forever lmao
I'm sure his neighbours all have gigabit too at his new mansion. The old house maybe not, but the new one has people rich enough to just hire a WiFi guy to fix their whole home network.
Linus has all the internet issues of a busy small business... but in his home LOL! This kind of stuff would drive me crazy at home.
I think you would actually find that if you removed some of the Ruckus APs you would actually get better speed and connections. We use Ruckus and we deploy half the APs we would install if it were Aruba or Ubiquity. Because of the directional antenna array technology Ruckus uses they actually operate better with a sparser deployment.
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Exactly, dont get me started on aruba aps. Huge difference when youre used to installing Ruckus, hope they ramp up their production and solve their supply chain issues.
I knew it would go terribly when Linus first said he wanted basically everything in his house to be "smart", it's been what, two years and things barely work at all. Not to mention another problem with his house is that without the server everything shuts down, his house is going to be basically impossible to sell if they ever do that because it'd need everything ripped out to be functional for an average person
Quite sure he does not care about that because it provides content for the company and the cost is probably written off.
He gets a lot of content from his house not working, so he kinda makes money from its problems, which is pretty nice. Plus with the amount of work he's putting into it, I don't see him ever selling it.
@@enderduck4253 it'll happen eventually, either by him, his kids, etc.
@@memethief4113 Linus is pretty smart, he probably already considered that all the things he's doing would make it difficult to sell. So he definitely thinks of it as a long term residence at the very least.
6e with new spectrum was a game changer for me living next to an airport with radar that knocks my and my neighbors 5Ghz APs to the same interfering channels constantly. Downside is device support is minimal right now.
Funnily enough, as someone who works in a public school district tech department, we have those exact same Wireless APs implemented in our highschool and student's 1:1 Chromebooks have similar issues with connection as Linus. Our department never even considered that devices may be connecting to APs that are on another floor or further away than the classroom they are in. We have that AP in almost every classroom so it may be that the range is cranked, will update this post if lowering the strength solves the problem.
Have you consulted a wifi specialist?
has been some time since i was in the settings of the unifi setup at work but if i remember it right there was an setting that allowed you to define a threshold value on which you clients will switch from on AP to the next. also pretty sure you define it in dBm. ihope i could help, if you finda fix for the problem i would love to get a headsup what fixed it
Or just disable the switch port on a few APs and see if that works
Hey, I work at a school district as well. Been dealing with these AP since October and it's been a nightmare. We did a lot of troubleshooting and got some interesting results.
@@Coz131 lol.. Aside from "wifi specialist" not being a thing in the general world, you missed "public school district tech department". They budget probably barely covers toilet paper let alone bringing in consultants.
If I had to open my phone to work my garage door I’d probably remove myself from existence
You actually DON'T want that many AP's. You want maybe a 10-15% overlap of coverage. Any more than that you'll get interferences, and the devices will hop between AP's to often. My guess based on what I see is 2 AP's to cover your house. And then 1 in the garage, on the furthest wall away from the interior house (ie, closest to the garage doors).
He probably needs 2 but you can definitely use 3+ and properly get it to work if you play with the thresholds and adjust your power as well.
I have 2.4GHz as a completely different SSID and only use it for security equipment and then placed (3) WiFi 6 APs Ethernet backhauled mesh. There isn’t a place in our 1200sqft home that doesn’t get 400mbit/s or higher on our iPhones and iPhone doesn’t have WiFi 6. My laptop gets hella fast speeds. Once apple upgrades to 6E I’ll probably run 2-3 of the same APs they are using in the video.
APs*
In my house, I absolutely needed a lot of APs due to concrete columns and steel in the construction. Even a small wall will absolutely destroy 6GHz. The roaming on these U6Es is very good. I am facing the same frustration with the country-locked 6GHz but easily fixed as per the video. I don't have the problem of wifi leaking through between floors in the building as the slab is about 25-30cm, call it 10 inches roughly, with again plenty of rebar in it.
My recommendation would be to use the Unifi tools to map the signal out. The LR6+ isn't as good, it is basically the Lite version. The U6 Long-Range is the one that is the same level, but it is heavy (metal bracket to fit) and runs pretty toasty. That said, even the Lite models are actually not bad; I just prefer the Pro ones or Enterprise due to them getting much more frequent firmware updates and having a very huge install base -> any problems will be found and fixed up more quickly.
One catch - Ubiquiti has started verifying the country of credit card vs country of delivery recently (as in, Feb 2023). If it doesn't match and you buy a lot of gear, they may flag as fraud and cancel the order. They really want you to use the local (country) distributor. This, even though I cannot buy 1/5th of the gear where I live.
I have a lot of their gear including the (regular) NVR. IF you can buy the equipment, it works very well. I would avoid EA products unless you run a lab or are prepared to put up with some 'fun'. Wifi 6E is very nice when it works, but even if most of your clients use Wifi 5 or 6, or even still Wifi 4 for IOT, these APs have a level of capacity that is unlikely to be a bottleneck even if you have hundreds of clients on a single AP.
@@MrGivmedew I’m assuming you mean iPhones don’t have Wi-Fi 6E. Because my iPhone constantly has faster speeds than the PS5, sitting side by side and I know the PS5 has Wi-Fi 6
you actually DO want that many APs. then you power tune them.
My internet is so expensive it should be illegal….
and in any other country, it probably is!
Found the Canadian.
@@AmongUs-mb4qx How bad is Canadian internet? (cost and speed wise I mean). We just got upgraded finally after like 3 or so years of waiting for fiber to become available and the best we can get at reasonable pricing is 1gig down 50mbps up for $149 a month. Australia btw.
@@WyattOShea about 25 loonies less for a 1.5 gig but the real kicker is the mobile data, over $100 for a 10GB data limit/ month.
Jake and Linus is just an unbeatable combo...
This is Anthony erasure and I will not stand for it!
@@Dr_Andracca yeah I guess you could include Anthony to make a trifecta. 🙃
I miss luke tho
@@siontheodorus1501 yeah that’s why i love the 4 hour wan shows every Friday!
My favorite work wives on TH-cam.
Linus making every video to make his entire house a business tax write off be like:
At least Linus has a staff he can count on for help in solving all of the issues with his wifi!
he cant solve his issues because he doesnt know Wi-Fi. ID be curious what the config on his vSZ even is, let alone if he has an ax capable device, although id assume he does with the inflated speedtests.
The solution is simple; lower the saturation of wifi devices in the house area and things will be better. I do know about those Unifi APs and they are wicked fast. I had experienced their quickness when moving between 3 floors in a very saturated building and aside from some hiccups from a couple misbehaving, the experience was amazing! Being able to go floor to floor, while in a meeting on my tablet, the only issue experienced while doing that was elevators blocked a lot of the signal, which was not a huge issue as once the doors open on another floor I am immediately attached to the nearest AP.
Did we know Linus bought a (presumably) Taycan? Those wheels on the wall in the garage. 👀👀
He mentioned it on WAN Show a few weeks ago
@@ctyoung0271 iirc he never specified what car exactly
New car mentioned, actual car model was not to my knowledge
Will he do a Video about it?
Those wheels on the wall appear to be from a Taycan. So he probably did buy a Taycan
I just love seeing the things parents will do for Jake, downgrading their wifi just so that their son can play Fortnite without any interruptions.
I love this series. I don’t feel so alone in my Wi-Fi endeavors. Ruckus is usually a reliable commercial solution, don’t get me started on trying to use Eero in a similar fashion!
@@spacecadet2172 eh, it’s above average for a one-button (toggle) solution to bufferbloat.
I live in Ontario Canada, and I'm with Bell for home internet, and I've has wifi 6E for about a year, I love it because I can get over 1gb download, and almost 1gb upload
With the waterproof access point, can you do a video to see if you can add wifi under the water in your pool? Not sure if that even works, but would be interesting to find out.
Won't work sorry :(
Considering that microwaves are around 2.3 GHz and they definitely interact with water (think microwave ovens) your changes of transmitting any data over those frequencies in water are slim to none.
Not holding my breath for that episode
put your phone in a waterproof bag underwater and see how fast everything loses confection, waterproof is probable for ease of mind when outside in the rain
@@gman4141007 Waterproof is about not getting water on the PCB which would break your hardware and destroy all stored data. And maybe for some underwater photos.
I’ve just got 2Gbps fibre line fitted in the most remote part of the UK you could imagine, yet you’d be lucky anywhere else (unless a new build) to get 60mbps - we are so far behind in average speeds. 😂 congrats on the Wi-Fi project so far!
Probably because a lot of countries already had widespread adoption of cable TV whereas the UK doesn't and uses phone lines, much less suitable for data transmission than cable
@@username8644 I played Xbox 360 live for 3 years on 1.5MB ATT and .33 upload and even used to watch a bunch of Netflix but it was 480p or worse. I have 50 now and that even seems like a ton to me. Place where I might move to only has 15 download and another place I was gonna move to only have Hughes Net and Starlink and nothing else. Even tried every mobile hotspot and no coverage as a test before we were going to move there.
1.8 download 0.14 upload in the remote scotland. I want even a quarter of that fibre you just got.
@@username8644 Thats sad, In in the US outside of a major city and we have 5Gb fiber to the home
Can we talk about how good the Wifi6e bit in the intro is? Actually hilarious. Someone give the writers a pat on the back. Or a raise. Or both.
Next video: "I can't shower because my rgb gaming bathroom won't update the firmware, we need to reconnect the bathroom to a new server so the water can come"
Not sure if Linus has talked about what car he bought from Quebec yet but it's def a Porsche! Can see some spare wheels at 6:06
Taycan most likely
5:40 - TOP TIP for key hole mounts - photocopy / scan and print the back of the unit - cut holes in the print out where your fixings are- use the paper as a guide to drill holes. Life made easier :)
Just take painters tape and put it over the holes and poke holes into the keyholes, then put the tape on the ceiling.
@@rwjehs8101 but it's Linus tech tips and although that is easier and works, it's not as fun and 'techy' 🤣
Indeed, but you still have to align the device to the screws; which is the actual pain..
@@leovbernardo that's.... What the tape with holes in it does
Or just check the box or the manual.
They might have the hole template.
Linus giving his phone to Jake is the level of trust I wish I had.
I mean, you'd trust any good friend or coworker you've regularly spent time with for 10 years with your phone for a hot minute, right?
@@handlemonium it really depends what you have on your phone. I have my bank's app and even though every action requires verification I would not let anyone else see how much I have on my accounts or what stocks I have bought. If you have different phone for personal things and that was work phone, then sure why not.
@@oappi4686 Must be tough to live such a paranoid life.
Pretty nice having employees to install your personal electronics into your house for you and you can even deduct it all as a business expense!
Linus: "Jake has already promised me to replace all my ruckas ap's"
Jake's inner thought: I've already chosen a spot to bury you.
The fact that he had more than one Ruckus AP in house is crazy. They are arena grade. You would need maybe two. And then one external one. Hope his UniFi ones work better.
overkill it is. I have a simple router and I can open my garage from the other side of the country. Dude can't even do it 10 ft away lmfao
Can't compare an arena to a 5k sqft home with solid wood cabinetry, stone materials, insulation, etc. 5ghz and 6ghz don't penetrate well, a problem you don't have in an open air warehouse or stadium.
@sluflyer06 jokes on you, he already tested with 1 unit and he had good connection everywhere in his house. So yes, he only needs 1-2 in house and 1 outside for the garage
Did anyone notice the Porsche rims with tyres! Good for you Linus! Congrats!🎉
I was just wondering
Hi Linus, I am currently in “genetic testing” to properly match my voice to what my character model will look like. I do truly appreciate the hard work you have done for all of us.
lol I love this
Tell them to let me goooooo 😮😮😮😂😂😂
FYI for Jake, you need at least IP X7 to be submergable...
X5 = low pressure jet (hose) if I'm remebering correctly.
X6 = high pressure jet.
X7 = 1m submersible for 30m.
X8 > X7 but manufacturer specified.
X9K = Steam washable (there is no "9" as far as I've seen).
There's a setting to handle ap hand-off. Polling threshold, which allows you to target a specific signal strength. Set that to a lower strength 35db. If this setting isnt working you have way too many ap devices
With that many high powered wifi access points so close together, they would be overpowering each other. Just imagine two or more overhead projectors all aimed at the same wall. You might be able to make out a few words but you can't make out the full message of any single projector. Even if their not on the same frequency a strong signal could overpower another connection.
@6:03 it looks like a second set of Porsche wheels and tires. Unless Yvonne traded in the minivan I think, we just found out what kind of car Linus got. Can't wait to see the wrap on it!
I wonder how many wi-fi videos Linus made saying "I finally fixed my wi-fi"
honestly it is not just fixing, video doesn't mentioned that old ones were 1GB uplink max, while Unifi 6 Enterprise have 2.5GB uplink. + wifi 6 is better in terms where it uses wifi 4 + wifi 5 frequencies and have better ways of handling different speed clients.
Somewhy video focusing only on 6E extension.
@@s.i.m.c.a Ruckus' APs have 2.5GbE, you can see it in 5:53 .
Should have waited for WiFi 7 as I heard that it has tracking where it tracks the connected device with pin point accuracy and jumps between nodes based on where we are instead of how strong the signal is. The jump is said to be instantaneous with 0 loss of packets while switching. Yes that is crazy. But good see that finally true seamless mesh systems be coming.
Where did you read that? I would like to read about it.
Why wait when he can monitized two videos for easy content instead by doing 6E and then 7 videos within 6-8 months of each other
I already use wifi 6e on a daily now. 1850mbps download and 1700mbps uploads at 4ms latency. So far its great.
Can't wait for WiFi7 and 10G switch upgrades!
Did LMG just break Unifi's Early Access Policy of doing media on early access devices? I thought Unifi had a policy like that at some point? Love seeing more Unifi content!
I love that cliffhanger with Linus' phone not working correctly on 6E.
Jake is sometimes the angel on Linus' shoulder giving him advice or a little devil playing trick and jokes
I lost faith in Ubiquity around 5 years ago. I get weird disconnects and the range is greatly weakened over time. Some APs needs frequent restart to make them work again.
Switched to TP-link omada, and my oppinion is that the management software is more easy to use. The range is better and very stable. It's a thermal spa with camping and 60 room accomodation. There are 700 devices connected at daytime and around 300 at night.
@8:20 he chooses a protocol with "more encryption" for the WiFi password, but he streams the password online for millions to see 😅
Lucky neighbours
Even on less expensive wifi setups you can assign certain hardware to particular access points or range extenders by locking mac addresses into those APs.
I remember when I did a deep dive into wifi installation, too many AP's is actually a bad thing. You want the signals to overlap at the edge of their optimal speed range. I bet if he paid someone to do a wifi survey for optimal placement of his AP's they would probably recommend 1 or 2 Ruckus AP's max
This was my thought too. I bet one AP on level 3 and one on level 1 would work much more reliably. Maybe the speed wouldn’t be super fast once you’re far away from the access point but devices with a high bandwidth requirement should be connected via ethernet if you want reliability.
Realistically you should have all IOT devices on 2.4g, and no more than 2-3 mobile devices per person connecting via wifi, 1 of which should ever be a significant load at any one time.
I wonder if he has 802.11k/v/r configured
@@pixels_per_inch mesh is never a good idea. You don't want the AP signals to overlap, you want the edges of the signal to over lap. Mesh always cuts you speed in half because it has to relay back to the main haul and talk back.
I think you are thinking of lame people mesh. It’s still called mesh even if it’s Ethernet backhauled.
The problem with mesh is that if you don’t know what you are doing you won’t set the threshold for signal correctly and you’ll stay connected to the wrong AP for too long. But these same problems happen when you have all separated APs with different names unless you have an android phone and it does a decent job at switching on its own. iPhone def don’t do that and neither do laptops.
I’ve gone both ways in my house. Mesh has been problematic at times but when I replace my 3 APs it will probably be with the ones they are using in this video. Right now I get 500mbit/s anywhere in my house on an iPhone and iPhone isn’t WiFi 6 or WiFi 6e yet. I have a WiFi 6 network for now and will upgrade it to 6E if and when apple gets 6E.
@@xDMG15x If his house is 3 floors, I would argue only one super powerful AP (on the middle floor) would work best.
I love the Ubiquity acces points; they look like Guitar Hero notes!
It's so nice to see Linus doing projects at home together with his boyfriend.
Jake taps his wife.
His wife's boyfriend*
13:06 ... I _knew_ that'd be a segue.
The issue with upload speeds being much greater than download speeds with ubiquiti APs is one I also experience. Have tried everything to resolve it but download is still usually half the max upload
I love when people who dont really know about the architecture and planning of access points and route and switching, create videos like this.....remember when he said change your mtu to get faster data speeds? what a guy....
1:03
"It should be fine, and if it's not, Jake has promised me that he will personally reinstall ALL of my existing rukus access points"
He almost certainly did not LMAO
Linus needs an AI assisted house automation layer (HAL for short) to optimise his network topology and control his garage door... 😁
I love how smooth Linus and the rest of the crew make the Segway to the sponsor
*Segue
@@GregoryVeizades Subway
funny how the usage has evolved to using "smooth Segway" - when segways were anything but a smooth ride
I screwed up on the spelling
Linus with 6 router+access points: "I have no internet, internet drops between rooms"
Me with 1 router: "internet goes everywhere in my house and beyond on the street."
Let's face it: Linus will not be happy with his wifi speeds until he can download 8k video on his smart fridge in under 3 seconds
Edit: I love how my comment has been stolen and overtaken by a bot LETS DEFEAT THAT BOT
but then why not 2 seconds?
12:00 I think you guys should optimize to reduce bufferbloat. Having bloat from 5 ms to 9-13 ms is not really bad but you can do better than that. In most cases for real world uses it's better to sacrifice even 25% of your bandwidth if you can avoid bufferbloat as a result.
Not sure what you're on about with buffer bloat on 1+Gbit speeds. It's a speed test over WiFi... I'm certainly not going to drop over 200Mbit down to "reduce buffer bloat" when realistically you hardly see it anyway as not too much even maxes it out. Mostly an issue with weak connections and multiple people using it but in my case everyone in the house could be streaming Ultra HD at the same time and no one would notice, Linus has has more up / down than my 1Gbit down and 45Mbit up.
@@MidnightMarrow It really depends what's the worst case latency you accept. For absolutely minimal latency, you should stay around less than 50% of max bandwidth if you have multiple clients on the same network without co-operation.
Sure, you can get *average* latency very low pretty easily but look that the max latency for the whole connection and it will show different results if you try to go close to 100% bandwidth with multiple clients.
Watching movies is really hard and you'll barely notice even 5000 ms bufferbloat for that. Playing networked games or even doing full page reload is where the latency will show up more.
@@MikkoRantalainen I do play games whilst multiple people steam uhd content and download via steam. I absolutely had issues when I had 100mbit down thus I threw down the cash for gigabit and now my pings are consistent no matter what everyone else is doing whereas when I had 100mbit I was constantly spiking from less than 100ms to 800+. The only issue I could run into is if the measley 45 up were to get saturated but that doesn't happen as I'm the only one here that actually utilizes upload bandwidth.
Linus bought a Porsche? 6:09
Jerry rig university t shirt is awesome!
I do love how Jake tales the time to explain how secure WPA3 is.
Then he tells Linus the password is 12345678. “Good thing we have WPA3” 😂