I could be wrong, but I believe goo used to take 6 seconds to burn. Now with this patch it's going from 12s to 9s so it's not it's not completely reverted. Keep up the good work, I love the videos and the podium leage is dope I try to hop in there when I can.
@@obiwankenobaddie2734 well fucking skews me if I have to use shields in order to not be beamed down from across the map by mediums and lights Or have any chance of one 1V1 anyone with anything other than a hammer
@streetscience8646 tbf that claw change was necessary, the absolute bullshittery of heavies pulling a light in to have a light deleting melee or flame thrower was crazy. They should atleast let people still shoot while they're being pulled
Worst thing about the damn throwing knives is the freaking sound effect. Sounds like someone dumped a McDonald's kitchen of cutlery into an echo chamber I can't hear sh*t
The virgin dome shield vs the chad barricade, Barricade fans just keep winning. Unironically most underrated equipment never see any heavies using it xD
@@DaveDotEXE how interesting I never knew people struggled with it. I’m always swivelling around upon being shot and deploying barricades for me and the team like a twitch reaction. I actually have the opposite problem with the dome shield due to the dome taking some time to pull and deploy which puts you at risk during live or suprise confrontations. I presume you enjoy using the dome shield? :)
@@hellothere-oi2xq I think something to do with a legal issue for gambling if there was a metal ball and you're able to spin it on command etc, either that or the ball just wasn't ready for the new animations
not that I'm saying dome shield wasnt strong before but if heavy needed nerfs I don't think dome was the right target, rpg is way more problematic, winch nerf was ok but i think the main issue people had was the lack of counters, pulls through the wall etc. this will still have winch be annoying. The changes overall this patch were decent but nerfing light and heavy without touching medium seems odd considering how dominant med has become in the meta recently, the heal beam, model, defib loadout is crazy popular right now. Small steps embark, hopefully we get there 1 day
I couldn't agree more. I dont necessarily think these changes are bad. But they don't put their vinger on the sore spot. RPG for sure should be looked at. Heal Beam and Defib are fine, but perhaps lock it at max 1 per team? I dont know. We'll see how it develops over time I guess. Revert dash nerf Embark 🙏🏻
@@someonesomewhere8265 maybe but also keep in mind medium and heavy have less options for gadgets and weapons than light does so pick rate is not really relevant
@@Appoh good point dont get me wrong, but cmon man if i had a nickel for every heavy that wasnt using dome or rpg, or every medium that wasnt using defib, I would end up owing money, like I get it, but jesus theres no reason 3 items should be in quite literally every (every) loadout I see
Wow, that dome shield change is wild. Now the teammates will have to go for steal of the cashout because you’ll have to stagger it as heavy in order for it to be fully effective. 1.5 seconds of being exposed during a steal is gonna be tough! I think they should’ve started with 7 seconds
I'm just so glad light snipers are more viable in power shift. I think everyone should be playing light, and I'm so glad I can finally swap my glitch grenades out for a tracker dart. Nerf heal gun more next
The reality is, most teams will burn a shield in sub 5 seconds anyway. It will definitely effect how it's used in transit from site to site, when people are reviving and so on. I see the barricade getting used even more now.
No, they've been buffing up things too and they've not been making every single thing weak. But yeah they're starting to be on that I feel like that comes more of just the players. Keep saying a pressuring them now
@@arcanum3882 typo I was trying to say is that the players keep pressuring them or keep I guess annoying them about certain things to the point where they changed them like the knives
I think winch range nerf was perfect. getting winched from the roof of a 4 story building was ridiculous. Also, I feel the 15-second timer is going to make taking points so hard as an attacker. it is going to make lights the meta cause all they have to do is hide for 15 seconds rather than 25 making team wipes much more difficult with an agile light. But hey more tokens being used is nice I guess. Chefs kiss though is reducing the total wins needed for Emerald 1. Hallelujah!
Yeah Emerald change is really nice, I think that there's still some things about winch which would have been better to fix instead (around corner hooking etc) but overall if Embark was to nerf anything, this patch wasn't THAT bad in terms of negative changes, it's OK changes but dome F to pay respects
I don't even play heavy but I thought the dome was already weak, it was super easy to shoot out. imo they should've done something like Gibby dome, it's unbreakable but can't be shot through by you or enemies. Throwing knives were OP and needed that nerf. Too bad nothing was done for the 93r still 😭
@@THiiXY I made a whole video on my thoughts on it after grinding it to lvl 6 😭 I think it could use a ghost ring sight (better sights in general) and maybe a damage buff. It's a cool gun but it's sooooo bad 😭
I’ve been getting this bug where I’ll play the first round or lives normally, and then each time I die I lose another ability. Usually starts with my ability to crouch… then my q goes, then my e stops working, and so on with each death
@@ThisIsntTwitter hahahahahaha Oh wait, you're serious... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! There's a reason why double heavy and medium with healing beam is basically the most broken crew setup in the game.
Look at these biased light players that have never played heavy, lights are stupid they actually think that their guns aren’t good or just good enough when they are absolutely broken, but no “ I missed all my shots why didn’t I kill him” “my gun needs a buff”😂 delusional lights
I agree on claw being a bane to especially lights averaging 20 kills on a lights infested quick cash, but the buff resulted in the opposite effect, where lights stopped fearing claw users Dome shield with its low HP didn't need a nerf, it was the perfect getaway against mid-to long range where the claw nerf made close to mid range area a lot less large. It was indeed a sad day for heavies, but a glorious day for mids and lights
I used to be a light main back in CB, but I just lost my mind getting one shot by heavies so switched, would probably go back to light if heavy RPG was nerfed
@@THiiXYI’ve seen heavies complain about their weapons time to kill, especially against lights, and how all of lights weapons killed fast. A: lights weapons kill fast but have little ammo usually, and also because of light’s healthpool they could easily be dead before they’ve gone through half of a mag. B: heavy weapons do less damage but because of their larger healthpool and usually also massive ammo reserve, they can afford to keep shooting even if they miss some shots or take some hits. C: rpg
Really unfortunate that the reticle changes weren’t quite everything needed. The only thing missing was an option to truly disable the reticle from swaying from the center of the screen. Even with the static portion this is still the case
Not much into the balances changes but I am just glad they did improved the optimization of the game. Frames weren't as consistent until the new patch, so having that optimization really helped with my gaming experience lmao
Coincidentally, I was already switching dome shield to barriers because I’ve found that they’re more versatile. They also often times help better than dome shield anyway for stealing cashouts. Winch claw nerf is understandable Throwing knife nerf is fine but I don’t hate them as much as other people seem to lol Lava lamp skin is sick af. Nice update.
Frankly the dome shield change felt uncalled for, and this is as someone that plays Light and Medium slightly more. Aside from what already was mentioned, glitch barrels also one shot the dome shield now, and subjectively from my games the dome tends to already go down damage wise than before. The biggest problem though that I think Embark is aware on the Discord and hopefully will sort out is the persistent scan bug. While rare, the fact that I would have at least one game every other day where a recon grenade or tracking dart, whether from my teammate or my own, would result in an enemy team showing up for the rest of the round, is utterly game breaking.
To be fair, I didn't even know what the dome shield timer was until seeing this :') If you're using it in a hot situation, it's not gonna last longer than 5s anyways, certainly not 12. Five seconds of 360-degree cover still seems like it'll have tons of use. But I'll see how my opinion changes after using it a bit tonight!
S4 patchnotes we need: - Light Health buff from 150 to 175 - RPG damage nerf from 140 to 100, increased destructive capabilities. - Model 1887 damage range reduced in steps between 5 and 10 meters, improved reload animation and cancelling - Lewis Gun recoil improvements - M60 magazine increased by 10 - Dematerializer controls improved for less inputs required - Smoke grenade/powder canister rework to be thicker cloud like CS2/Warzone to actually mask position. - Restriction of 3 defibs on one team in ranked cashout - inspires diversity in gadget choice and removes the jackrabbit in heat triple medic meta. - Defib cooldown nerf - Dual kadachi blade buff - Riot shield improvements like being able to deploy grenades from behind the shield, holding shield while stealing cashout and long reviving teammates - Goo grenade reliability improved, placement oreview hologram implemented when holding down throw for accurate placement similar to barricade (Just my opinion)
What they are doing is a solved problem, they are trying to solve it the hard way. Games usually have systems where you have to pick your agents hence abilities and one team can't have multiple of the same. I dont even know if it's realistic for them to get players to play all three agents at the same time without straight up restricting players to those. Maybe if they were to make it the there can be multiple small mediums and hevays but only the abilities are restricted. Like only one healing beam. Only 1 defib only 1 throwing knifes. Only 1 rocket. And that can maybe have the effect of all classes being played equally without forcing players down that line.
^ I'm open to any solution in solving defib spam. A very good team on triple defib has to be killed 3-9 times in a single fight at times, which is outrageous. They could make the cooldown gradually increase as they are used.
These are all pretty good, I think the dual blades specifically need a range buff - the amount of times I feel like I should be hitting someone with them but I lock onto the air next to them is really annoying lol
Definitely should not have reduced damage for the 1887. Lowered damage means not being able to kill a medium in two full shots at a range that’s barely outside close range. The other medium guns already have a wider effective range and can kill me before I get the third shot in if they are good.
I really do hope the awareness of The Finals will reach the surface someday, and have its popularity boom. It feels like it's still under the radar. I can't remember last time i've had this much fun in a competetive shooter, although i know this game is not everyone's cup of tea. But if it keeps going at this rate with unnecessary nerfs, many of the current players will lose interest. Too many games sink low because of nerfs by devs who don't seem to play their own game, and focus more on nerfing rather than buffing unpopular items and classes. I'm all for a healthy balance, but i see no reason on the nerfing of dome shield.
They should have just removed the mash shield and replace it with the Dome Shield as a specialization. Also increase the Dome Shield to 15 seconds and add a little more health.
Domeshield stealing is one of the most braindead tactics in the game. That being said, i agree with there being a faster cooldown to make up for the nerf. I'm not sad about the TKs getting Nerfed, but i think the ROF nerf is all that needed
I play every class. Even heavy. I like this change to dome a lot. Face it, dome was OP. This should introduce more variety to heavy load outs…. Next they should address the RPG.
😂😂😂 man the mediums have no pro honestly 😂😂😂 lights can dash go invisible two ways they can and have recon like being invisible and not moving is the biggest advantage on top of that having the smgs one of them with no recoil 😂😂 and heavy we not gon talk about them i think they need to buff the AR just a bit or the damage range these ARs shoot like marshmallows
@@Killjoy.Z rpg is not OP sorry. Theres literally nothing heavies can do from far away to any target except RPG. Light and medium do cirlces around heavies and have the best weapons by far.
We could have a tf2 shovel inspired melee for lights like a tactical axe where u do more damage by falling on enemies and walk run and jump ability go with it. A sword for medium that does heavy swings but also a slight damage increase if u fall and melee using map or jump pad
They should've changed winch claw range from 17m to 15m first, instead of 12m. Same for the bubble shield, either reduce the duration by a bit at a time until it feels 'balanced' enough, or compensate the huge duration nerf with something else. If they really wanted to make the bubble shield a 'temporary protection' like they claimed, then why not shorten the animation time to make it more snappy to use, or reduce the cooldown ? Just nerfing the duration to the ground won't change how the bubble shield is played since its purpose remain the same, albeit with a much lower duration now. They have to adress the design flaws first before butchering stats.
Winch nerf was not needed. Imo it was designed to force long range engagements and them into short ones. The issue is that the heavy only now has very strong CQC potential with the Hammer and the auto shotgun really being it's only viable guns. The winch wasn't the issue it was the very oppressive CQC gear.
I guess changes based on what casual players actually wanted were out of the question. Let's be real, they cater to the demands of the light mains. I'm a medium main, but heavy did not need the dome shield nerfed. It's all but useless now. Lights need damage nerfs on everything for starters. A single light should not be able to melt two heavies in a gunfight. Yet I see it happen time after time. Some of us just want to have fun.
@PW.6060 Your backwards. Light is solidified as the worst class and has been nerfed heavier than every other class. The meta is Med, Med, Heavy. Not ANY variation of light. Also if a light is even able to kill 1 heavy in a straight shootout, you have a skill issue. A heavy only needs to RPG then shoot a light ONCE.
@@MomentousCheese It's not me. Most of the time, I see lights end games with 12 or more kills. Sometimes more than 20. Not just one, but multiple lights in the same lobbies consistently. I've seen lights eat RPGs and run off. It's not a one hit kill. If lights are so bad, why does everybody use them? It's literally the majority of most lobbies I play in.
@@THiiXY I see it. I'm not even a heavy main, I'm just blown away watching lights dominate. At least the game modes I play. I can't speak for anything competitive.
This season I feel like was a test season before Embark start to really define what THE FINALS is. They've now had 3 seasons and more than enough time to collect data on what's the future vision for the game. I think you'll be returning.
@@THiiXY I agree with you. And I do love that they are testing and experimenting. I also love the idea of Emerald. Just the questionable execution, timing, and placement of these ideas are head scratching at the moment. I do think if they can place all these ideas into there correct categories they will have much MORE to play with in this sandbox. Casual, Casual-Grind, and Ranked gives more options for players and more experimenting that can happen. Copium will only last so long, so get cookin’ Emark. Love your channel by the way, keep up the good work! ~ Love BayouRambler 🐶
Sure! I have two PC's and accounts to connect with in Private Matches. If you don't have a two PC setup, then you'll be able to do the same with GeForce NOW for THE FINALS - just a warning sometimes it's down whilst the game is updating.
idk what they were thinking with the dome shield change,,, you cant even res or steal or anything anymore... it takes so little damage to break too... this is basically removing dome shield because its so bad now
I came back to the game to try and get emerald, and jfc I cant imagine the average player being able to do this. I win on average somewhere around 50% of my games, and even then it will take me a week and change of trying hard to get e1. I was top 400 s2 and I cant imagine a casual getting this stuff while balancing life
As a heavy player the winch needed a nerf. Some shield might be too much, but honeslty no matter what class you played , it was always a pain when used to steal an objective.
As a havy main I think this update is great. I have no fun in seeing and playing the same thing over and over again. I would love to see light becoming a little more viable.
Dome shield nerf is no problem. can't remember the last time I had a dome last longer than six seconds. I throw that shit at enemies on purpose just to make space. Winch Claw has been crazy OP all season, not fun to use or play against and sapping the playerbase, but this nerf is specifically shitty because it stops you from grabbing stuff other than players, which is the whole justification for it having a low cooldown.
Heavy needed big nerfs. My own personal (and probably unpopular) opinion is that they need to be a touch slower as well. If they’re gonna have all that health, then a light build shouldn’t even need to use a dash or grapple to get away from the sledge hammer or spear. That’s the whole point. They’re supposed to be big and slow. Not SLIGHTLY slower than a light with what seems like infinite health.
this is crazy, when i first started playing i only played medium but after playing ranked i only played lite. bubble shield never seemed over powered to me. it was effective but just simply shooting it was also effective, they should have nerfed the wench claw. also i now only play lite in cash out and easily come out with a 20 kill game super EZ as a lite. the mediums seem to be my only issue always out killing me as a lite with only 1hp remaining it happens to often even when they miss most of there shots and i hit all mine.and they should have nerfed throwing knives to the ground by increasing the fire rate but reducing the damage.
Could someone with enough influence please ask Embark to stop over-nerfing the few remaining fun gadgets in the Heavy Build? These gadgets already have solid counters, yet they keep getting nerfed into oblivion, making the game less enjoyable. Meanwhile, certain classes remain frustratingly overpowered and unfair to play against due to these constant nerfs and the so-called 'QoL' changes (which are more like direct buffs) to the Light class. Balancing is essential, but it shouldn't come at the cost of making entire playstyles unviable. The game is at its best when all classes feel equally rewarding and fun to play Heavy Build is getting blasted for the sake of a class that doesn't even fit into the game and strengthens the TDM mentality. It's frustrating to see multiple playstyles being sacrificed for a class that undermines the game's overall balance and depth. The developers need to reconsider these changes if they want to keep even a fraction of the remaining community. My friends have already left because of the Light class, and I'm about to do the same. Don't get me wrong-I also dislike some of the awful nerfs to the Light class-but seriously, stop it. Do you really enjoy being queued against triple Light builds? Does that sound fun to you? Do you feel powerful when you throw your Dome Shield only to have it destroyed in 0.001 seconds because of a glitch or the sheer amount of incoming damage? At this point, does the Heavy Build feel like a tank or just a bullet sponge? Enough with this nonsensical balance for the love of God! PLAY YOUR GAME OMG
Hey I’ve been in Europe for a while without a good pc to play the finals, so I don’t know what balancing a changes have happened. Mainly I just want to know if the fcar got buffed yet
A better answer for you is that everything else has been nerfed so you'll probably feel the FCAR is way more stronger than you're used to depending on how long it's been. FCAR is still one of the most used medium weapons.
I'm so used to playing without them I wouldn't mind a toggle of grenade indicators, I like relying on instincts it makes it feel more scary lol XD but I can understand why you'd like the indicators on
@@decayed_firecaster I can totally understand that 😂 I can’t lie it is fun sometimes when you see one plop at your feet and you have that mini heart attack lol
Throwing knives are OP still, they should have some type of reload damage; you can one-to-two shot any kind of player basically instantly, there’s no counter
can someone explain how gaining experience works on weapons and equipment? it seems so random and slow with some things and others just seem to gain thousands just for using it, i haven't been able to find a guide anywhere so far but there has to be some answer to the method
For equipment, it's mostly based on the support that the equipment did - or the damage that it dealt. For example a C4 coining and enemy would grant a fair amount of XP but it being used to deal damage to help contributes as well. For weapons it's simply eliminations unfortunately, I don't think damage does that much to contribute to it at the moment. Modes like PowerShift/Bank it are very helpful towards gaining XP Hope that helps!
Something stil doesn't make sense to me that a knife to the face will do 170 damage, but a rocket to the face only does 140(Light player complaining about how op we are here)
OMG devs r completely invested in making this competitive like this SHOULD have been in terminal which makes sense but now it ruins the fun of casual. Plz tell devs to have s1 balance without nukes its perfect
The Emerald change kinda missed the point with what alot of people have been complaining about, it wasnt the amount of wins that was the issue, it was the lack of MM and progress if you didnt win the tournament. As it stands, if you try and solo WT, you will end up with 2 unranked or silver players on your team, have to drag them to the finals, just to lose to a 3 stack or stack of streamers, and you have sweated for half an hour for absolutley nothing, where as the players you dragged to the finals, have grabbed loads of XP for their ranking. Once again Embark showing the do not respect the players time in their game.
I just want an update to on-screen text size. I legitimately can never read my teammate's names, tell which Cashout is B or D, or read the descriptions of Terminal locations.
Lights doesnt need buffs people just need to get better at it like seriously its probably in my opinion the best class because of its abilities hell i got to the final round as a medium with a just 1 light who was a master stealer but ya know Lost because 2 v 3 is very hard
The lava skins' dynamics go so hard. That glow actually extends to the entire goddamn gun if you keep firing!
nah that's crazy
Yes people in my server just showed me what the flamethrower looks like on continuous fire, actually so cool :D
Example: th-cam.com/video/hKQXmwnsAfM/w-d-xo.html
Bro does not know what good sleep schedule is
ahaha I'm cooked bro
@@THiiXY bro please take care we wouldnt want you getting sick :((
I could be wrong, but I believe goo used to take 6 seconds to burn. Now with this patch it's going from 12s to 9s so it's not it's not completely reverted. Keep up the good work, I love the videos and the podium leage is dope I try to hop in there when I can.
You're right
I feel personally attacked… this wasn’t a nerf it was a hit job
Mannnnnn can’t winch claw from the top of zips 3000m straight down 🤡
@@RafaTheScientist that’s what you heavy players deserve
@@obiwankenobaddie2734 well fucking skews me if I have to use shields in order to not be beamed down from across the map by mediums and lights Or have any chance of one 1V1 anyone with anything other than a hammer
Good
@streetscience8646 tbf that claw change was necessary, the absolute bullshittery of heavies pulling a light in to have a light deleting melee or flame thrower was crazy. They should atleast let people still shoot while they're being pulled
Worst thing about the damn throwing knives is the freaking sound effect. Sounds like someone dumped a McDonald's kitchen of cutlery into an echo chamber I can't hear sh*t
ahahah that's the most accurate description of them I've heard so far :D
It needs to be loud though, otherwise you won't hear it over gunfire which would be a nightmare
The virgin dome shield vs the chad barricade, Barricade fans just keep winning. Unironically most underrated equipment never see any heavies using it xD
@@infestous because it's such a pain to place, it just never places when you need it
@@DaveDotEXE I agree not only that but placing it doesnt usually stop lights, they can easily go around it.
barricade + hammer = light bait.
i love my barricade
i feel really sorry for the barricades i always love deleting them with the Data reshaper 🤣
@@DaveDotEXE how interesting I never knew people struggled with it. I’m always swivelling around upon being shot and deploying barricades for me and the team like a twitch reaction. I actually have the opposite problem with the dome shield due to the dome taking some time to pull and deploy which puts you at risk during live or suprise confrontations. I presume you enjoy using the dome shield? :)
This is such a THE FINALS moment
THE FINALS™
@@THiiXY Hey, do you know what happend to the luis gun casino skin? In season one, it showed the metal ball going around. What happend?
@hellothere-oi2xq I noticed this, too. The skin is now able to do all the new animations... but no steel ball...
@@hellothere-oi2xq I think something to do with a legal issue for gambling if there was a metal ball and you're able to spin it on command etc, either that or the ball just wasn't ready for the new animations
not that I'm saying dome shield wasnt strong before but if heavy needed nerfs I don't think dome was the right target, rpg is way more problematic, winch nerf was ok but i think the main issue people had was the lack of counters, pulls through the wall etc. this will still have winch be annoying. The changes overall this patch were decent but nerfing light and heavy without touching medium seems odd considering how dominant med has become in the meta recently, the heal beam, model, defib loadout is crazy popular right now. Small steps embark, hopefully we get there 1 day
I couldn't agree more. I dont necessarily think these changes are bad. But they don't put their vinger on the sore spot.
RPG for sure should be looked at. Heal Beam and Defib are fine, but perhaps lock it at max 1 per team? I dont know. We'll see how it develops over time I guess.
Revert dash nerf Embark 🙏🏻
the model is staight up broken. I went from an average of like 6/7 kills a game to 15+ easily. we run 3 models and win significantly more than before
any gadget that has an over 80% use rate needs to be nerfed
@@someonesomewhere8265 maybe but also keep in mind medium and heavy have less options for gadgets and weapons than light does so pick rate is not really relevant
@@Appoh good point dont get me wrong, but cmon man if i had a nickel for every heavy that wasnt using dome or rpg, or every medium that wasnt using defib, I would end up owing money, like I get it, but jesus theres no reason 3 items should be in quite literally every (every) loadout I see
Wow, that dome shield change is wild. Now the teammates will have to go for steal of the cashout because you’ll have to stagger it as heavy in order for it to be fully effective. 1.5 seconds of being exposed during a steal is gonna be tough! I think they should’ve started with 7 seconds
7 - 5.5 = 1.5 (seconds of being exposed). I think 5.5 seconds uptime is fine, but I like Thiixy's idea of reducing the cooldown.
@@ApfelSwag My bad, i thought it was 8 second steal
The health on dome makes it to where you can easily pop it in 1 sec. This Neft is wild. One step closer to bare bones CoD
I'm just so glad light snipers are more viable in power shift. I think everyone should be playing light, and I'm so glad I can finally swap my glitch grenades out for a tracker dart.
Nerf heal gun more next
The reality is, most teams will burn a shield in sub 5 seconds anyway. It will definitely effect how it's used in transit from site to site, when people are reviving and so on. I see the barricade getting used even more now.
Can't believe how much this game is still slept on. Love THE FINALS!
FACTSSS!
Sleeping ≠ dead
The dome shield nerf wasn’t needed, doubt the devs have even played this game competitively. The dome shield gets torn through in seconds.
I'm saying... lame.
WOOOOO get SLAMMED HEAVY BOY
Yeah, one gun can rip through it. The basic strategy is just burning it down in a second or two 😂
Who are these changes for?
So we’re pulling a helldivers 2 and nerfing every single thing weaker huh?
No, they've been buffing up things too and they've not been making every single thing weak. But yeah they're starting to be on that I feel like that comes more of just the players. Keep saying a pressuring them now
@@madvortex39 What are those last two sentences?
@@arcanum3882 typo I was trying to say is that the players keep pressuring them or keep I guess annoying them about certain things to the point where they changed them like the knives
@@madvortex39 the answer is simple... dont listen to the players...
@@screwandwrenchrob4778 EA mindset
Love how they are just completely ignoring how broken so many things light has are and just giving it the most mid nerf in existence
Dash nerf was huge.
By the time youre able to get a glitch grenade on target, the dome shield will already be gone.
LOL true
dome shield nerf is so fuckin overkill good lord
over-nerf and they'll bring it back in line maybe
I think winch range nerf was perfect. getting winched from the roof of a 4 story building was ridiculous.
Also, I feel the 15-second timer is going to make taking points so hard as an attacker. it is going to make lights the meta cause all they have to do is hide for 15 seconds rather than 25 making team wipes much more difficult with an agile light. But hey more tokens being used is nice I guess.
Chefs kiss though is reducing the total wins needed for Emerald 1. Hallelujah!
Yeah Emerald change is really nice, I think that there's still some things about winch which would have been better to fix instead (around corner hooking etc) but overall if Embark was to nerf anything, this patch wasn't THAT bad in terms of negative changes, it's OK changes but dome F to pay respects
Im thanking the lord that they nerfed the winch claw because i always get cross mapped by it
@@Cr9mson yea winch nerf was needed. Rip to the dome though lmao
i reinstalled this game after 9 months and the heavy class is literally useless compared to how it used to be. That was all I used to play
very good nerfs gotta say i agree with the changes
Terrible Dome shield nerf...
They can literally break it fast.
And on top glitch nades disable them 😢
I don't even play heavy but I thought the dome was already weak, it was super easy to shoot out. imo they should've done something like Gibby dome, it's unbreakable but can't be shot through by you or enemies. Throwing knives were OP and needed that nerf. Too bad nothing was done for the 93r still 😭
yeah 93r could do with a nice meta shake up, just make it strong for some fun changes to the game
@@THiiXY I made a whole video on my thoughts on it after grinding it to lvl 6 😭 I think it could use a ghost ring sight (better sights in general) and maybe a damage buff. It's a cool gun but it's sooooo bad 😭
I’ve been getting this bug where I’ll play the first round or lives normally, and then each time I die I lose another ability. Usually starts with my ability to crouch… then my q goes, then my e stops working, and so on with each death
NAHHH, THEY SHOULD HAVE PUT THE FIRE THING ON THE MGL32, NOT THE FLAMETHROWER
So the heavy finally got some fucking nerfs.
Good.
Tf you mean finally? They've been nerfed to oblivion. If anything, lights need the nerf especially the SMGs.
@@ThisIsntTwitter hahahahahaha
Oh wait, you're serious...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
There's a reason why double heavy and medium with healing beam is basically the most broken crew setup in the game.
@@ThisIsntTwitteruninstall bro
@@staufackar2135facts
Look at these biased light players that have never played heavy, lights are stupid they actually think that their guns aren’t good or just good enough when they are absolutely broken, but no “ I missed all my shots why didn’t I kill him” “my gun needs a buff”😂 delusional lights
I agree on claw being a bane to especially lights averaging 20 kills on a lights infested quick cash, but the buff resulted in the opposite effect, where lights stopped fearing claw users
Dome shield with its low HP didn't need a nerf, it was the perfect getaway against mid-to long range where the claw nerf made close to mid range area a lot less large.
It was indeed a sad day for heavies, but a glorious day for mids and lights
Tf you mean heavy get a rpg/ flamethrower/ barricade winch all this shit and you need more??
Was actually hoping for a rpg damage nerf. Starting a fight against a 350 hp enemy, who took out 140 from you without any effort is demotivating.
I used to be a light main back in CB, but I just lost my mind getting one shot by heavies so switched, would probably go back to light if heavy RPG was nerfed
@@THiiXYI’ve seen heavies complain about their weapons time to kill, especially against lights, and how all of lights weapons killed fast.
A: lights weapons kill fast but have little ammo usually, and also because of light’s healthpool they could easily be dead before they’ve gone through half of a mag.
B: heavy weapons do less damage but because of their larger healthpool and usually also massive ammo reserve, they can afford to keep shooting even if they miss some shots or take some hits.
C: rpg
Mines exist, turret exists
Wym
“static” still moves around
really? not for me maybe I'm dumb but it's good (check the bottom setting)
@@THiiXY the static reticle is still moving when you move
Really unfortunate that the reticle changes weren’t quite everything needed. The only thing missing was an option to truly disable the reticle from swaying from the center of the screen. Even with the static portion this is still the case
Lights plague the game, "hmm let's nerf heavy again" xD
Silver 2 take af. win more than one tourny and see how many lights you find in emerald
@@cxnvn4043 light user stuck in QP :D ^
@@andrew_is_taken3404 that’s crazy I think you’re projecting as I’m plat 2 alr this szn and have a job 😱goofy
heavy is dead
Not much into the balances changes but I am just glad they did improved the optimization of the game. Frames weren't as consistent until the new patch, so having that optimization really helped with my gaming experience lmao
Coincidentally, I was already switching dome shield to barriers because I’ve found that they’re more versatile. They also often times help better than dome shield anyway for stealing cashouts.
Winch claw nerf is understandable
Throwing knife nerf is fine but I don’t hate them as much as other people seem to lol
Lava lamp skin is sick af.
Nice update.
Frankly the dome shield change felt uncalled for, and this is as someone that plays Light and Medium slightly more. Aside from what already was mentioned, glitch barrels also one shot the dome shield now, and subjectively from my games the dome tends to already go down damage wise than before.
The biggest problem though that I think Embark is aware on the Discord and hopefully will sort out is the persistent scan bug. While rare, the fact that I would have at least one game every other day where a recon grenade or tracking dart, whether from my teammate or my own, would result in an enemy team showing up for the rest of the round, is utterly game breaking.
Static crosshairs!! Im gonna be hitting so many shots with KS23! Hopefully the perfomance improvements help too! My 1050ti be sweating 😅
ahhaha I feel very bad for your 1050ti :D Yeah it's really nice to finally have this feature!
To be fair, I didn't even know what the dome shield timer was until seeing this :') If you're using it in a hot situation, it's not gonna last longer than 5s anyways, certainly not 12. Five seconds of 360-degree cover still seems like it'll have tons of use. But I'll see how my opinion changes after using it a bit tonight!
ahaha yeah it used to be waaay longer up to 20 seconds :D I agree though, I think heavies can still adjust to this change
Update: the nerf hit the bubble hard. RIP bubble. Noticeably less effective in my games. Slot it away with C4 into the sad bin of dead heavy toys.
As a mostly heavy main, im gonna keep using goo nade over dome shield. Ive won so many games with goo 😊 Making fire walls is fun too 🤪
ahaha flamethrower + winch + goo nade is crazy :D
S4 patchnotes we need:
- Light Health buff from 150 to 175
- RPG damage nerf from 140 to 100, increased destructive capabilities.
- Model 1887 damage range reduced in steps between 5 and 10 meters, improved reload animation and cancelling
- Lewis Gun recoil improvements
- M60 magazine increased by 10
- Dematerializer controls improved for less inputs required
- Smoke grenade/powder canister rework to be thicker cloud like CS2/Warzone to actually mask position.
- Restriction of 3 defibs on one team in ranked cashout - inspires diversity in gadget choice and removes the jackrabbit in heat triple medic meta.
- Defib cooldown nerf
- Dual kadachi blade buff
- Riot shield improvements like being able to deploy grenades from behind the shield, holding shield while stealing cashout and long reviving teammates
- Goo grenade reliability improved, placement oreview hologram implemented when holding down throw for accurate placement similar to barricade
(Just my opinion)
Heavy grande louncher double bounce remived
What they are doing is a solved problem, they are trying to solve it the hard way. Games usually have systems where you have to pick your agents hence abilities and one team can't have multiple of the same. I dont even know if it's realistic for them to get players to play all three agents at the same time without straight up restricting players to those. Maybe if they were to make it the there can be multiple small mediums and hevays but only the abilities are restricted. Like only one healing beam. Only 1 defib only 1 throwing knifes. Only 1 rocket. And that can maybe have the effect of all classes being played equally without forcing players down that line.
^ I'm open to any solution in solving defib spam. A very good team on triple defib has to be killed 3-9 times in a single fight at times, which is outrageous. They could make the cooldown gradually increase as they are used.
These are all pretty good, I think the dual blades specifically need a range buff - the amount of times I feel like I should be hitting someone with them but I lock onto the air next to them is really annoying lol
Definitely should not have reduced damage for the 1887. Lowered damage means not being able to kill a medium in two full shots at a range that’s barely outside close range. The other medium guns already have a wider effective range and can kill me before I get the third shot in if they are good.
I really do hope the awareness of The Finals will reach the surface someday, and have its popularity boom. It feels like it's still under the radar. I can't remember last time i've had this much fun in a competetive shooter, although i know this game is not everyone's cup of tea.
But if it keeps going at this rate with unnecessary nerfs, many of the current players will lose interest. Too many games sink low because of nerfs by devs who don't seem to play their own game, and focus more on nerfing rather than buffing unpopular items and classes.
I'm all for a healthy balance, but i see no reason on the nerfing of dome shield.
They should have just removed the mash shield and replace it with the Dome Shield as a specialization. Also increase the Dome Shield to 15 seconds and add a little more health.
the problem with the throwing knives were their damage not the speed at wich they are thrown 🤦🏼🤦🏼
I'm glad to hear about the claw distance nerf. The thing was crazy.
Yeah I understand it was brought in to counter a lot of the camping at the back of rooms/sites but 17m was pretty wild aha
Domeshield stealing is one of the most braindead tactics in the game. That being said, i agree with there being a faster cooldown to make up for the nerf. I'm not sad about the TKs getting Nerfed, but i think the ROF nerf is all that needed
TKs aren't a lights best weapons anyway; and lights are the weakest class definitively - didn't need the nerf at all
I play every class. Even heavy. I like this change to dome a lot. Face it, dome was OP.
This should introduce more variety to heavy load outs…. Next they should address the RPG.
Me as a medium main i feel shocked and relieved(as on how medium is untouched)
😂😂😂 man the mediums have no pro honestly 😂😂😂 lights can dash go invisible two ways they can and have recon like being invisible and not moving is the biggest advantage on top of that having the smgs one of them with no recoil 😂😂 and heavy we not gon talk about them i think they need to buff the AR just a bit or the damage range these ARs shoot like marshmallows
@@kristianmayes1533 idk about you but in solo queue triple medium is a gg i lost
@@meyoutuberfrendexactly the meta for this game is 3 mediums, has been from the very start
Glitch traps glitch traps glitch traps
@@xazathc i forgot about those (there broken aswell or really good depends)
Dome should be the exact time it take to steal a cashout, 7 seconds
The finals has the worst balance decisions, constant nerfing is the worst way to balance a game
@drawborderscrew2059 if you don't think the RPG is a problem then there's no dialog to be had with you. Pure delusion
@@drawborderscrew2059the rpg is the best weapon in the game, if you suck with it I’m so sorry
@@Killjoy.Z rpg is not OP sorry. Theres literally nothing heavies can do from far away to any target except RPG. Light and medium do cirlces around heavies and have the best weapons by far.
@@ReachDubiety So you don't have LMG's?
@@ReachDubiety OR a winch?
I’ve been on a crazy Minecraft grind the past few weeks taking a break from pvp games and this might pull me back in
respect, I tried out "Vault Hunters" recently and I had a blast, super fun modpack
Two heavies throw a shield after each other and you'll have the regular time again.
We could have a tf2 shovel inspired melee for lights like a tactical axe where u do more damage by falling on enemies and walk run and jump ability go with it.
A sword for medium that does heavy swings but also a slight damage increase if u fall and melee using map or jump pad
They should've changed winch claw range from 17m to 15m first, instead of 12m. Same for the bubble shield, either reduce the duration by a bit at a time until it feels 'balanced' enough, or compensate the huge duration nerf with something else. If they really wanted to make the bubble shield a 'temporary protection' like they claimed, then why not shorten the animation time to make it more snappy to use, or reduce the cooldown ? Just nerfing the duration to the ground won't change how the bubble shield is played since its purpose remain the same, albeit with a much lower duration now. They have to adress the design flaws first before butchering stats.
5.5 is kinda dumb like bruh if it gonna be that it should be faster
Winch knives nerf was oky but dome 🤔 kinda eh okay ig but pls return c4 back to 2 😭😭
I just love the cut at 9:02
ahahaha I wanted to make that cut better but I screamed too loud lol
@@THiiXY its just too good 😂
The sniper feels so good now w the crosshair change
Yeah i was enjoying the bow too :D
Defender bonus is sensible! gj
The lava lamp RPG is sick I’m definitely buying it😂
There's also a little switch on it too not sure if it does something haha :D
Winch nerf was not needed. Imo it was designed to force long range engagements and them into short ones. The issue is that the heavy only now has very strong CQC potential with the Hammer and the auto shotgun really being it's only viable guns. The winch wasn't the issue it was the very oppressive CQC gear.
I wish they would just add a battlefield mode, like on bf1 just five objectives a ton of people and lots of murder and mayhem
Barricade Shield Stonks 📈
This patch strengthen my doubts that devs or balance team are not play testing the game they just showe the buffs and nerfs from the air
Have you seen the devs play? They are just awful at games🤣
WOOOOOOOOdidnt even watch the vid YET GET SLAMMMMMMMED HEAVY BOYS
I guess changes based on what casual players actually wanted were out of the question. Let's be real, they cater to the demands of the light mains. I'm a medium main, but heavy did not need the dome shield nerfed. It's all but useless now. Lights need damage nerfs on everything for starters. A single light should not be able to melt two heavies in a gunfight. Yet I see it happen time after time. Some of us just want to have fun.
@PW.6060 Your backwards. Light is solidified as the worst class and has been nerfed heavier than every other class. The meta is Med, Med, Heavy. Not ANY variation of light. Also if a light is even able to kill 1 heavy in a straight shootout, you have a skill issue. A heavy only needs to RPG then shoot a light ONCE.
@@MomentousCheese It's not me. Most of the time, I see lights end games with 12 or more kills. Sometimes more than 20. Not just one, but multiple lights in the same lobbies consistently. I've seen lights eat RPGs and run off. It's not a one hit kill. If lights are so bad, why does everybody use them? It's literally the majority of most lobbies I play in.
Yeah there's a huge tug of war since the open beta between light mains and heavy mains that's for sure
@@THiiXY I see it. I'm not even a heavy main, I'm just blown away watching lights dominate. At least the game modes I play. I can't speak for anything competitive.
@PW.6060 Just play light yourself in high elo or high level ranked and you'll see man.
The Emerald update doesn’t move the needle on the issues it brought to World Tour. Hopefully S4 brings me back to loving this game again.
This season I feel like was a test season before Embark start to really define what THE FINALS is. They've now had 3 seasons and more than enough time to collect data on what's the future vision for the game. I think you'll be returning.
@@THiiXY I agree with you. And I do love that they are testing and experimenting. I also love the idea of Emerald. Just the questionable execution, timing, and placement of these ideas are head scratching at the moment. I do think if they can place all these ideas into there correct categories they will have much MORE to play with in this sandbox. Casual, Casual-Grind, and Ranked gives more options for players and more experimenting that can happen. Copium will only last so long, so get cookin’ Emark.
Love your channel by the way, keep up the good work! ~ Love BayouRambler 🐶
May I ask how you play all by yourself?
How can I repeat this? Or is it something else?
I really want to run alone on the cards
timecode: 4:23
Sure! I have two PC's and accounts to connect with in Private Matches.
If you don't have a two PC setup, then you'll be able to do the same with GeForce NOW for THE FINALS - just a warning sometimes it's down whilst the game is updating.
@@THiiXY Thank you very much!
idk what they were thinking with the dome shield change,,, you cant even res or steal or anything anymore... it takes so little damage to break too... this is basically removing dome shield because its so bad now
🥚 EMBRACE THE GOO META 🥚
😈😈😈
They should make the gravity code deter bullets
Heavy has only been nerfed since beta
I came back to the game to try and get emerald, and jfc I cant imagine the average player being able to do this. I win on average somewhere around 50% of my games, and even then it will take me a week and change of trying hard to get e1. I was top 400 s2 and I cant imagine a casual getting this stuff while balancing life
as a medium main, im quite happy to see the heavy and lights gettin nerfed...lol
The nerfed the heavy aswell ? lol glad i quitted before this new season. Big mistake whit this game.
As a heavy player the winch needed a nerf. Some shield might be too much, but honeslty no matter what class you played , it was always a pain when used to steal an objective.
As a havy main I think this update is great. I have no fun in seeing and playing the same thing over and over again. I would love to see light becoming a little more viable.
Long Live THEFINALS ❤. lmk bros always down to group up with experience players. 💎 season 2 playa
Dome shield nerf is no problem. can't remember the last time I had a dome last longer than six seconds. I throw that shit at enemies on purpose just to make space. Winch Claw has been crazy OP all season, not fun to use or play against and sapping the playerbase, but this nerf is specifically shitty because it stops you from grabbing stuff other than players, which is the whole justification for it having a low cooldown.
Heavy needed big nerfs. My own personal (and probably unpopular) opinion is that they need to be a touch slower as well. If they’re gonna have all that health, then a light build shouldn’t even need to use a dash or grapple to get away from the sledge hammer or spear. That’s the whole point. They’re supposed to be big and slow. Not SLIGHTLY slower than a light with what seems like infinite health.
Lucky im a medic medium, so ill try my best to keep my heavy on my team at all times alive.😂
Shoutout to the support chads
RPG nerf next please
Shawk my medium king
Hits can nerf next, including turret 😊
Static Crosshairs! F I N A L L Y!!!!!
THE DAY HAS ARRIVED!!
this is crazy, when i first started playing i only played medium but after playing ranked i only played lite. bubble shield never seemed over powered to me. it was effective but just simply shooting it was also effective, they should have nerfed the wench claw. also i now only play lite in cash out and easily come out with a 20 kill game super EZ as a lite. the mediums seem to be my only issue always out killing me as a lite with only 1hp remaining it happens to often even when they miss most of there shots and i hit all mine.and they should have nerfed throwing knives to the ground by increasing the fire rate but reducing the damage.
Could someone with enough influence please ask Embark to stop over-nerfing the few remaining fun gadgets in the Heavy Build? These gadgets already have solid counters, yet they keep getting nerfed into oblivion, making the game less enjoyable. Meanwhile, certain classes remain frustratingly overpowered and unfair to play against due to these constant nerfs and the so-called 'QoL' changes (which are more like direct buffs) to the Light class. Balancing is essential, but it shouldn't come at the cost of making entire playstyles unviable. The game is at its best when all classes feel equally rewarding and fun to play
Heavy Build is getting blasted for the sake of a class that doesn't even fit into the game and strengthens the TDM mentality. It's frustrating to see multiple playstyles being sacrificed for a class that undermines the game's overall balance and depth. The developers need to reconsider these changes if they want to keep even a fraction of the remaining community. My friends have already left because of the Light class, and I'm about to do the same. Don't get me wrong-I also dislike some of the awful nerfs to the Light class-but seriously, stop it. Do you really enjoy being queued against triple Light builds? Does that sound fun to you? Do you feel powerful when you throw your Dome Shield only to have it destroyed in 0.001 seconds because of a glitch or the sheer amount of incoming damage? At this point, does the Heavy Build feel like a tank or just a bullet sponge? Enough with this nonsensical balance for the love of God! PLAY YOUR GAME OMG
Great even more 3 medium teams
In closed beta 3 mediums defib into defib was crazy lol, it's still in here but way less common aha
Throwing knifes should have an ammo limit or deal atleast 20% less damage
Hey I’ve been in Europe for a while without a good pc to play the finals, so I don’t know what balancing a changes have happened. Mainly I just want to know if the fcar got buffed yet
A better answer for you is that everything else has been nerfed so you'll probably feel the FCAR is way more stronger than you're used to depending on how long it's been. FCAR is still one of the most used medium weapons.
Still no frag grenade indicator 😭
I'm so used to playing without them I wouldn't mind a toggle of grenade indicators, I like relying on instincts it makes it feel more scary lol XD but I can understand why you'd like the indicators on
@@decayed_firecaster I can totally understand that 😂 I can’t lie it is fun sometimes when you see one plop at your feet and you have that mini heart attack lol
@@thevoidhaven lmao totally this!
@@thevoidhaven especially when chasing a player and they throw a nade below their feet ahah
You want everything to be cod. You ruined this game
LET S GO THEY MADE EMER 1 63 WINS
HUGEEEEEEEE
I feel like more snipers are going to be more prevalent because of the crosshair change
At this point eliminate heavy entirely. Nerfed to absolute death RIP
Throwing knives are OP still, they should have some type of reload damage; you can one-to-two shot any kind of player basically instantly, there’s no counter
I have dedicated myself to being a F2P but GAWD The Finals is testing me everyday
can someone explain how gaining experience works on weapons and equipment? it seems so random and slow with some things and others just seem to gain thousands just for using it, i haven't been able to find a guide anywhere so far but there has to be some answer to the method
For equipment, it's mostly based on the support that the equipment did - or the damage that it dealt. For example a C4 coining and enemy would grant a fair amount of XP but it being used to deal damage to help contributes as well. For weapons it's simply eliminations unfortunately, I don't think damage does that much to contribute to it at the moment.
Modes like PowerShift/Bank it are very helpful towards gaining XP
Hope that helps!
@@THiiXY thanks for the advice, i'll do what i can
Something stil doesn't make sense to me that a knife to the face will do 170 damage, but a rocket to the face only does 140(Light player complaining about how op we are here)
OMG devs r completely invested in making this competitive like this SHOULD have been in terminal which makes sense but now it ruins the fun of casual.
Plz tell devs to have s1 balance without nukes its perfect
The Emerald change kinda missed the point with what alot of people have been complaining about, it wasnt the amount of wins that was the issue, it was the lack of MM and progress if you didnt win the tournament. As it stands, if you try and solo WT, you will end up with 2 unranked or silver players on your team, have to drag them to the finals, just to lose to a 3 stack or stack of streamers, and you have sweated for half an hour for absolutley nothing, where as the players you dragged to the finals, have grabbed loads of XP for their ranking. Once again Embark showing the do not respect the players time in their game.
I just want an update to on-screen text size. I legitimately can never read my teammate's names, tell which Cashout is B or D, or read the descriptions of Terminal locations.
The throwing knifes where needed. i would get first shots of and still die to them 😂
Lights doesnt need buffs people just need to get better at it like seriously its probably in my opinion the best class because of its abilities hell i got to the final round as a medium with a just 1 light who was a master stealer but ya know Lost because 2 v 3 is very hard
I love lava lamp 😍
Really cool skin ahaha :D
2:56 can someone tell me how he got the finals cloths? thx
Hey! Those items were only available in the closed beta unfortunately :/
@@THiiXY Oh ok, thx ^^
We here ❤❤ again 🔥🔥 the nerf was necessary heavy was just too OP man
My guyyyy super fast, much love!
@@THiiXY always here bro super fan am ur biggest fan 💕 much love