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The german car manufacturers in fact criticised the tariffs on Chinese EVs, because they are afraid of counter measures by the Chinese Government.
Not only afraid, they have a huge plans to open joint EV production in China that will greatly benefit from Chinese subsides
It seems BMW X3 is made in China....
Germany isn't the pusher of the tariff, France is.
French cars have less than 0.5% market share in China.
Elektrek had a nice article about the same. This has happened before in the 70s when Japan mass produced smaller fuel efficient vehicles. US auto manufacturers pushed for tariffs instead of actually improving, and this backfired amidst the fuel crisis, US cars (and other exports) suffered retaliatory tariffs, and Japan took the lead in global auto manufacturing. With Chinese industry so focused on EVs, in time some brands will figure out how to create a premium driving experience (it's a big country, 3x the EU and 4x the US, so the range from budget to premium can be deep), and the US and EU auto industries will be left holding the bag. Keep up the great work Bjorn, we're not all haters 😊
björn, the thing is european cars are way too expensive, i was really looking forward to the release of the xpeng g6 here in germany but thats over i guess
Germany is against the EU tax because they consider China as their biggest client,( it will eventually effect their export) France however supports the EU tax rule. Personally I think it is a good rule to force the European car manufacturers to produce their electric cars in Europe. For example the Mini cabrio Ev was produced in the Netherlands 999 each then BMW moved production to China.
That's wisdom there folks. Chinese manufacturers could also produce their cars in the EU. The international supply chain is so fracked up that it's more profitable to build a 2T+ vehicle on the other side of the globe with miserable workers and import it, than building it only a few hundreds kilometers from the final clients. What a crazy world.
@@SupaPictave ... miserable workers... sure. You choose what you believe
That's one thing allowed here in Europe, yes.
BYD are building a factory in Hungary and are rumoured to be looking for a site for a second factory. They also landed the lowest EU tariff; less than 20%.
@@amniote69 Leap Motor is already in a JV with Stellantis, and starts these days to build EV's in Poland. Chinese brands can easy get around tarrifs, by building factories in the EU.
Björn, I usually like your vids but this time, it isn't the German (premium) brands which are in favour of the increased import taxes, but rather the small-car-makers in Europe.
The luxurious/premium brands want to sell their ice-cars in EU and need the Geely bevs (Smart/Mini/Volvo) for CO2-compensation, the others with more efficient/smaller cars simply don't, also they are not depending on exports to China.
I was being quite clear already in the beginning of the video that I didn't know much about this case..
It's more like U.S. influence on E.U. They don't like Chinese economy growth to much...
It makes no sense, most of the "German" cars are built using chinese EV tech, they were asleep at the wheel and China beat them, just like Japanese motrocyles did in the UK.
This is what happens when you have politicians without real-world experience and knowledge. Their decisions will only worsen the situation for the European car industry. Most parts used in manufacturing are sourced from China and merely assembled in Europe.
in germany, the german car manufacutres anounnced, they don't want these taxes and the big chinese manucfactures are further then politics building plants all over europe, BYD is planing the second plant in europe, Chery bought the closed Nissan plant in Barcelona, Leapmotor build in Stellantis plant Poland, SAIC (MG) is searching for an area, Geely is able to build cars in Volvo plants in sweden or belguim etc...
The chinese will build cars in EU/Europe, pay no taxes and make for competition
In Australia we are the opposite. Chinese EVs coming in cheaper, cause we have a free trade agreement with China, no more local auto industry and we are closer to Asia than Europe. German EVs are expensive and IDs not even here yet. BYD, MG, Volvo here and Zeekr, NIO coming soon but Tesla still has more than 50% of the ev market. Polestar and Kia and Ioniq here but not as popular
It's the very 'no more local auto industry' part that has the US and now the EU implement these tariffs. I guess Australia was more keen on shipping its hydrocarbons and metals to China, eh?
Great video! 👏👏👏
You know, the US regime subsidies the car industry and moreover the military industrial complex. During the financial crisis, GMC, Chevy Chrysler etc would be gone without extra subsidies. The European governments are also subsidizing their car industries heavily. All countries subsidize their own industries.
People seem to forget that when German and US manufacterers wanted to enter the Chinese market they were forced to have joint partnerships with Chinese companies and imports to China had tariffs on them and still do. If the Chinese want to compete in Germany and the US make them build plants in those countries and add to the local economy rather than import from China. Nobody is against Chinese vehicles, but if you are not adding to the local economy then you should pay additional tariffs on your products you import to those countries.
Yes!
Some Chinese automobile companies have begun to build factories in Europe. They will bring job opportunities to Europe and make positive contributions to the European economy. Hope Europe can give them a fair competitive environment instead of new discrimination or restrictions.
Exactly what should be done! Basically it is what Norway does with energents... Everything is majority state owned... Is it a subsidised if the company is owned by the state?
E-tron is build in Forrest near Brussels in Belgium. In Ghent there is a Volvo factory.
Chinese EV industry is much more developed compared to EU and European brands are struggling to catch up. That’s what all the experts are saying on Deutsche Welle. 😅 In my opinion additional tax on chinese brands could help in short term but longer term I am not sure. In general I think chinese car brands are putting more effort in EV research and development. Their success could not only be explained with state subsidies. Look for example at Yangwang U8, Xiaomi SU7 or NIO ET9 and how far they have come.
How did the current crop of Chinese car manufacturers get there? Subsidies. Forced "joint ventures". Technology transfer. Buying dead or dying brands.
@@proesterchen In the same time EU car manufacturers were subsidised by billions and they forget prices as cartels and the money does not went into R&D
@@proesterchen Governments duty is assuring optimal economical conditions for own population and companies. This is quite common. EU countries should have done more of this and stop relying on others. Not trying to glorify Chinese state here, but times when China was seen as the cheap low quality manufacturer seem to be far behind.
@@yaCiyaCi Apparently, the EU has woken up to the dangers posed by the Chinese Communist Party trying to level car manufacturing worldwide.
Better late than never, I say.
Also I agree with you, tarrifs are a tax on consumers and should not be imposed on evs.
Norway already said they won't implement the tariffs.
They don't have an industry to protect, but it will make the cars in Norway more expensive because export becomes less efficient.
Interesting, I thought they have to because their part of the EEA
@@kimediamond Cars are a bit different compared to other goods, you can't just drive it over a border and use it in an EU country. Cars have to be registered on name.
@@kimediamond There are many areas that the EEA does NOT cover, such as the EU common agriculture and fisheries policies, the customs union, the common trade policy, the common foreign and security policy, justice and home affairs, or the monetary union.
I feel like the smart way of doing tariffs is to do it the Chinese way: Have them do joint ventures with European manufacturers. That way we also get battery production and know how in Europe.
My mg was 15k euro cheaper then a Nero or kona for the same range roughly. The diving experience is better yes the tec is annoying at times and materials cheaper but but you can still have fun in it like a fossil car
Agree with you
It's about protecting profits. How many European car brands are manufactured in China and then sold at huge markups here.
Thanks for singing Micheal learns to rock 😂
My 21 m3p was freemont so true no tax on that actually
Actually, Germany isn't the biggest pusher of this tariff, France is.
French cars used to be a significant competitor in China 30 year ago. But they had long lost to German, Japanese and American cars, and have less than 0.5% of the market share left.
I just find it hard to justify for example the prices on VW cars. Same cars cost half the price in china while we pay double the price almost in EU.
If european car manufacturers really wanted to be competitive with lower prices they obviously could but they wont.
I agree , they could . They just have to produce in China - not in Europe and voila - you get your lower price car.
You get your paycheck from ?
A worker at BYD makes around 8000$ a year. A German autoworker makes perhaps around 6 times more than this.
Yea and also pays 6X everything else
xpeng's boss is just xpeng, xiaopeng LOL
Thank you Bjorn for discussong this , there is a lot more to come especially if china react and apply the same Patronism or protectionism to what they import from the EU and America, this will lead to only one thing more costs added to us the customer 😢 and less choice
It will be interesting to see if BMW brings forward the conversion of the Oxford Mini factory to build the new J01 model that is currently built by Great Wall Motors in China and exported to Europe instead of building them in UK. Only the EV version is built in China, the ICE version is a new body bolted onto the old F56 Mini chassis until the Oxford factory is converted to build the J01 chassis .
What will happen with Polestar 2 which is very popular across Scandinavia? I know Volvo EX-40 production is moving to Gent, Belgium.
As far as I know volkswagen and in generał german makes were against additional taxes because they are afraid of retribution taxes from CHINA on their cars, since they sell a lot of cars in China.
You didn't mention the Korean cars. The Ionic 5 would have enough room for the family. Good overview of the tariff implications and I learned Norway was not in the EU.
we went to trade in our 2022 ID3 but vw say that the car is not worth anything as trade in because every other ev has come down in price...my daughter has changed her t-roc for another t-roc because the EV exchange price is terrible...that is not encouraging electric car take up
BYD are building an european factory and it is interesting now that this comes up. Maybe they could find some kind of loophole and have the cars semi-produced in china to be finished in the european factory? keeping most of the costs down and pay a lower price than the additional taxes may cost to the imported cars.
@Björn Nyland The german car manufactures are AGAINST the tariffs on Chinese EVs. The french want tariffs to protect their business.
I think dual nvidia orin chips should be able to calculate auto steer. Hope you review xpeng g6, also onvo could be decent. Even german cars have chinese components and sell cars into china, so they dont want a chinese retaliation.
I few weeks ago I guesstimated that my MG5 car was about 30% cheaper than an EU equivalent (if there was one - not many estate car EVs except Taycan!). Now they’re going to get a 38% tariff so price will still be in the right ball-park. But it’s a pity because tariffs will work both ways - no chance of any EU EV exports to China.
MG5 estate??? 😂😂😂 And you eve dare to compare it with Taycan? 😂😂😂
Is MG5 that much cheaper than Opel Astra? 10% where I am.
@@aleksandertelepov4913 only said there are very limited estates though. What are you driving? Btw i might add ET5 touring and ID7 sw to the list
German and America subsidies EV cars but less than CCp subsidizes their EV exports. So these new tariffs level the competition. Bad for consumers but good for continued employment.
"no chance of any EU EV exports to China" - That was never going to happen in any meaningful numbers anyway.
The Chinese needs to build factories in Europe, byd already making one in Hungary, mg is screwed. Wonder what’s gonna happen with model 3.
Tariffs simply highlight legacy auto not reacting to the market years ago.
If they hadn’t pampered to their shareholders, they would be able to make decent EVs themselves.
I’m still seeing lazy efforts and shared platform stuff
Wow it sounded that you enjoy a good rant…😆😆 I don’t like the way most things are made in China nowadays. We in the west will come to regret this happening.
Well, this is fine as long as the tariff isn't targeted only towards Chinese cars. Does this tariff apply to Korean, Japanese and American cars equally or is it only targeted to Chinese cars ?? So, the fairness factor if not respected will attract a strong response from China and justifiably.
If the Chinese want to sell cars in Europe and the USA then they need to build car plants there and pay their workers local wages and have the same health and safety regulations, then let's see how cheap (expensive) their cars will be.
However, many of the car parts come from China, and the manufacturing in Europe is just assembly. The production of the car body is highly automated.
Should China ask EU labor and other prices for manufacturing goods if it is sold in EU?!?!
@@user-hb8sq6ce9u That may be true but at least it gives all manufacturers a level playing field.
Theres no way to manufacture modern cars in an unsafe way lol
One thing to note with a 38% tariff on MG this probably will signal the death of the MG cyberster before it even launches 😢
The tax is to make that market a leveled playing field. Can the Chinese companies compete without their government’s subsidy?
Everything is subsidised in EU. Result of it is that everything is overpaid twice... Putting tax payers money in private pockets! The is what subsidising means here in EU...
Competency vs Competency competition.
German EVs for rich people in Malaysia.
The truest words you said was "you scratch my back" but this clearly isnt happening. Trade is a 2 way street. Its not just cars btw its everything. If european jobs leave how do they afford to by imports anyway.
Norway didn't follow on EU 10% flatrate toll many years ago, and will neither follow this hiatus of tolls. The flatrate is on top of these new ones, så SAIC will be 48.x % once that's calculated
Bear in mind, only EVs manufactured in china. So anything with ice is still 0%
Also Nio claims firefly dub-brand will be competitive in europe even with the tariffs (for them amounting to ~ 30%)
Other thanS and X dont you get your 3s and Ys from china ? Uk gets them from there
UK is not EU
@@aleksandertelepov4913neither is norway but they seem to get from freemont
Y comes from giga factory in Berlin, so only 3 is affected.
@@aleksandertelepov4913 no longer in the EU but we still follow many of their rules to allow us to export to the zone and AFAIK we will follow this one too. All new cars here have to have the silly speed limit sign recognition and lane keeping warning systems imposed in the EU from July 1st this year but my new Mini Countryman S E delivered in April has them both as does my 2023 built Land Rover Defender.
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Protecting NO development and higher prices in EU. Whose interest should be protected? The consumer's or the manufacturer's where as EU car makers sell their cars 30% cheaper in China!? The consumer needs lower prices and the same quality. Lot of good name EU EVs are inferior by technology and quality to competitive chines cars, still with 20%-30% higher prices.
European car manufacturers are so in Depth that the need to stay alive else a lot of European pensioners are in big trouble
personally, I hate German automakers for the scandals, corruption and denialism, but in my opinion Chinese cars affect more Tesla sales than legacy automakers, thus I'm ok with tariffs.
for the German cars, they're truly shattered quality - I've rented combustion MG ZS, and it was truly 💩, despite it was new car (10k km on the odo). So big no to Chinese if they're selling sheet just a little bit cheaper than Tesla, but with huge subsidies and truly poor quality
Norway will not participate in the new tarrif rules. So you are ok anyway 👍
However, the new tariffs might reduce the sales of Chinese brands in the EU, and as a result, Chinese manufacturers' interest in Norway might also decrease. They may have seen Norway as a pilot area for Europe.
To be honest I wish it was possible to buy an EV without any autosteer etc if it could lower the price( I know it wont get 5 star NCAP). I just dislike using any kind of autosteering or one pedal driving.
For me those features feel like waste of money.
You should edit and correct your profile on Wikipedia. Like Kyle you have a cult following. Would love to see you work together. He is a fan. Holy macaroni.
What if China export their cars from Thailand ? if the Chinese has a technology advantage, all they have to do is build a factory in a cheap EU country or even other cheap Asian country and they'll just by pass your tariff. Then what ? EU brands also have to sell to other markets. If your cars are not competitive, how can you compete in other markets. The Correct strategies will be to work with the Chinese car makers. And try take market share away from Japanese and American car makers.
1:50 - Norway is in the EEA, so movement of goods, services and people within the common market. 2:50 - MG/SAIC are wholly owned by the Chinese government. The penalty is the highest because they get the most assistance. 10:50 - the prices could be a lot cheaper, the profit margins with the kickbacks are reported to be extremely healthy, to the point that most manufacturers will just absorb the tariffs with little impact on prices.
The aim of this is to protect industrial capability in the EU in general. This is why EU companies are also having tariffs applied to cars they make in China. The message to Chinese manufacturers is: If you want to sell a lot of cars in the EU you need to do what the Japanese manufacturers did in the 80’s and 90’s and build factories in the EU.
China has massive tarrifs on imported cars from europe and the US, so raising tarrifs in those areas is only fair and the main goal is to make the chinese manufacturers open factories here and create jobs here just like Tesla and others have opened factories over there to gain access to the Chinese market.
@@Devilhuo massive enough it forces most non-Chinese brands (including Tesla) to build their cars in China to be competitive. So, yeah, massive.
Wenn ich mir ein Smart#1 kaufen möchte und der teurer wird bleib ich bei meinem Lada Niva, der mit LPG läuft. Es gibt ein par EV´s die mich interessieren aber in China produziert werden und mit dem Strafzoll zu teuer werden.
Hier sind die Hersteller ja so schlau nichts zu produzieren was bezahlbar ist.
Genau - die Beschäftigten in der Automobile Industrie inkl der Zulieferer bekommen einfach zuviel Geld , Urlaub usw.
Selbst Dacia aus Rumänien - unbezahlbar. Und da haben sie die Produktion für den Smart schon extra aus Frankreich nach China verlagert und dann kommen die aus Brüssel mit ihrer Steuer -....
Any region would prefer its local industry to compare fairly against import. If you tax your local industry 20%, and import 20%, they can compete. If the foreign industry is given the ability to use sløve labor, or the government there lowers domestic prices for raw goods for the production, or even takes money earned elsewhere and gives to the business in order to strategically boost the production and thus make their products be more important globally, then the competition is not fair. The import tax is thus used to make sure that the local industry has a chance to compete even though it pays a proper living wage to its workers, uses fairly priced and produced raw materials, and is an positive asset for the local economy.
China wants the global economy to be dependent on their exports, giving them a political advantage. They use their ownership of raw materials and their low wages, and subsidies, as a tool to gain global political influence. If we let them undermine our own economy just because we want cheap cars, we are pissing our pants to keep warm. When our industry is dead, they will start blackmailing us and our kids into submission.
Clearly they copied the design of the Lincoln aviator
Bjorn,
If you want to understand the tariffs, you'll have to zoom out a little bit. It's not really about cars.
Since WWII the Americans are the dominant global force. The dollar is the only reserve currency in the world, so they have pretty much unlimited financial resources in the international sense and they have a military presence everywhere. The last 25 years or so, global economic growth has been driven for a big part by BRICS countries and China especially. So much, that China is now a leading economy.
Europe has always aligned its interests with the Americans, but China doesn't want to. If you really want to go deep into this subject, you could find out about Xi Jinping's views on a multipolair world. Anyway, China is trying to break the US hegemony and find some room for itself. That doesn't please the Americans and they are resisting in any way they can.
The EU tariffs are a result of that. The EU is siding with the US in its resistance of emerging Chinese influence. One aspect is that China has started investing in renewable energy sooner and much more prominently than EU/US and now has a firm grasp on global supply chains for all kinds of technology. Since it's clear that renewables are cheaper and the energy supply of the near future, it's a very real threat to western dominance. That's a major reason why both EU and US try to limit China EV sales globally.
You can find some clues for this analysis in the EU subsidy probe. Chinese automakers were forced to answer a questionaire with very detailed questions about their technology and resources. They had to disclose entire supply chains (from the resource level up) on all EV related parts, exact chemistry of batteries and in addition to that full disclosure about their sales channels in China. No one said it, but the probe was very close to industrial espionage.
By the way, MG got the highest tariff, not because of subsidies, but because they rejected to disclose the exact chemistry of their batteries. They felt it was strategic and sensitive business information.
The case was built around subsidies however. You've probably seen reports in the past of huge amounts of money flowing to Chinese manufacturers from the government. The thing is, this isn't really subsidy for the manufacturer, but for the consumers.
I don't know about Norway, but in my country (Netherlands) there is an EV incentive. Let's say my EV costs $30.000 and there is a $2.000 incentive. The system is as follows. I buy the car, pay $30.000 to the manufacturer and then the government pays me €2.000.
If I was in China than this was the situation: I buy the car, pay $28.000 to the manufacturer and the government pays $2.000 to the manufacturer.
The net result is exactly identical: I get a car for $28.000, there's a $2.000 contribution in public money and the manufacturer gets $30.000. The difference is, in China there's a money trail, a subsidy payment, to the manufacturer instead of the consumer. This was used to create the tariffs.
Google "CSIS china ev subsidy" and you'll find an American think tank that investigated Chinese subsidies from 2009 until now. Total amount is $230 billion, which is of course a huge number. Of this $230B paid to manufacturers, $185B are in fact consumer subsidies and tax breaks as I explained above. So, real subsidies (for R&D or government procurement of products) amount to $45B in 15 years. Still a lot, but not excessive, or out of bounds with EU/US industry subsidies. The US spend even more on saving GM from bankruptcy.
So there you have it. Tariffs are a pure geopolitical game over global hegemony. The EU case is built legally on very thin ice and the result is bad for ordinary citizens: prices go up and the renewable energy transition will most likely be slowed down. The fossil fuel industry (which got a multitude of $230 billion in subsidies over the last 15 years) will love it.
Very detailed write up, thanks for that an interesting read
When was the last time we saw a Chinese driving a Chinese car outside China? Never.
Not in your cave?😂😂😂
You must mean that shithole called China which has the largest emigrants in the world.
LOL.. dictator's car!
So what about BYD - with their EU factory? Will the Seal finally be super cheap or they also get fecked over by the EU?
BYD will then have to pay EU wages to the workforce and implement health and safety regulations so their production costs will be much higher than those produced in China where the workforce has very low wages and virtually no health and safety.
@@ohyesitsme Good point. Well, Eastern Europe where it's being built isn't exactly California though, so hopefully it'll still be made and sold pretty cheap. ...at least if they want to sell it to the masses.
Maybe they could find some kind of loophole and have the cars semi-produced in china to be finished in the european factory? keeping most of the costs down and pay a lower price than the addition taxes may cost to the imported cars.
the best Chinese EVs are only sold in China. don't know why China does not export those to Europe or elsewhere.
Björn, you are doing great videos on reviewing EVs, I really like your content. But afraid to say, you don’t seem to know a lot about international trade. If the EU wouldn’t take any action (as the US is doing), China will continue to subsidize, eventually dominate the market and the EU made cars (in your view overpriced) will decline. The result will be that European industry will slowly decline, jobs will go, prosperity will go down. You can apply that same logic to any industry, whether its EVs, steel or other goods. Eventually the low cost of subsidized goods that appeals to buyers fires back with a loss of jobs. Market competition and free trade only works when there is a level playing field and no unfair practices…..that for sure is not the case with China.
There's no such thing as competition with a country that doesn't care about paper losses if it means the destruction of the industrial production base outside its own borders.
We've seen this play out across many an industry over the past four decades, but trying to kill off car manufacturing in Europe was apparently the straw that broke the camel's back.
Not your best video podcast Björn. The germans are looking for import taxes ....really...
However - VW ID3 ID4 are also build in China - and of course much cheaper - and I wonder why they are not available in Thailand
similar to made in China Teslas ?
- and they have the ID6 - which is not available in the EU at all.
I was being quite clear already in the beginning of the video that I didn't know much about this case..
@@bjornnylandare there any Zeekr 001 selling in Norway and does Nio have any 500kw chargers there also. Holy macaroni, can't wait for you to get this shiet and test it. ❤ your content.
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Such protectionist measures are never good in the middle and long term. Especially when you want to transition from fossils to BEVs as quickly as possible. Apparently they don’t value this transition in Brussels and Berlin.
Obviously worked for China, forced localised manufacturing, technology transfers and IP theft.
The Chinese government subsidy for every export car is up to $10000, but that doesn't include battery subsidy for their producers. So Chinese cars are not cheap that is just called dumping.
Anything EU decides will pass straight on to Norway 😂😂😂
Norway is a member of EEA, and I guess, they are obliged to. Otherwise, non taxed cars will have to stay in Norway only.
These additional tariffs will not take effect in Norway, replied the Finance Minister of Norway when Bloomberg asked.
@@aleksandertelepov4913 EU countries charge customs duties on used cars imported from outside the EU, such as from Norway and the UK. In addition, VAT is also applied.
@@user-hb8sq6ce9u great 👍 i just realised it was the same for my old american made m3p after listening to bjørn
Sending data to china…..literally
I suppose you have a Chinese phone or computer so they have all your data already
@@paulc6766I hope they enjoy it
And sending to USA is ok?
@@paulc6766 AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Apple M1-M2-M3-A17 etc, Google Tensor CPU, Snapdragon, MediaTek, Samsung Exynos, etc. All components you will find in your PC or Phone and they aren't Chinese.
More to do with the EU taking its frustration due China support for Russia, whose economy has got stronger thanks to EU sanctions and its closer economic ties to China.
Yeah, right, Russia's economy has grown "stonger" from waging a war and having to sell its only significant export, hydrocarbons, at below-market rates to their friendly eastern neighbours.
Mounting deficits. Dwindling sovereign wealth fund being plundered. Raising taxes. Stronger. 😂
V@@proesterchen Micro Chip production up both in quantity and quality. Infra structure spending up. Out stripping NATO on every metric. Oil exports to the EU except Germany up, and Germany buying it's oil from India who buys it oil from Russia. You probably believe that the Russian Army is retreating as it moves westward 😅😅😅
Oh and Russia is isolated apart. from China, India, Mexico and Brazil, just to name a few small countries.
@@carlturner4344 Oh, I love the "micro chip production" part. Especially where Russian officials were getting excited about "domestic" lithography tools merely 3 decades out of date. Which, coincidentally, also made them at least 1 decade worse than what was regularly used in domestic production before the war.
That's what half the money once in Russia's sovereign wealth fund will buy you, apparently.
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