Dude, some people might say it's a little broken, but I think he's in the perfect spot right now. Because if you played bastion in above anything, then diamond you were playing get jumped simulator.
I'd like to see Bastion slightly stronger on recon form with a more reliable primary fire and slightly weaker in turret to compensate, but that's a good buff for sure Or a way weaker turret form, but be able to swap between both
Wish they would just rework his ult again. Half the reason off meta picks like bastion and torb are bad is because they have dps ults that don't make it easy to wipe a team.
@@Bamblez it's exactly that "fine". It's not a genji or sojourn you can nano combo to garentee atleast 3 kills or a whole team backs off with way less effort. Just because you have a few clips of people with movement on cooldown or a few ana kills doesn't mean it's not literally B teir at best.
@@PokemonFan-j6i I can get a triple kills on sojourn every day. When bastion had an unlimited ult bug it still only got 2 kills consistently. It's not about being good at using it as much as getting lucky people didn't move out of it. Exact reason why doom ult is only good for getting out, not getting kills.
Btw the Torb buff is bigger than I think people realize because now there is more skill since using his primary fire can be more effective now then the shotgun.
Honestly, I’ve been playing pretty much just Torb and Bastion since I started playing, despite them both not being meta, just because I loved their individual play styles. Now that they’re both buffed, should make life much more fun lol
Sad trying to play off meta with zoning ults. Dps is the worst role in the game and sadly the only way to feel impactful somtimes is having a ult that braindead combos with a nano
Is playing D'va into Bastion not way better than rein into Bastion? I find erasing damage is so much more useful than blocking it, i'd be eating bastion bullets, rein firestrikes, in fact Flats whole team is projectile based. Is it the lower rank I'm in? is it not a viable strat in GM?
Both DVA and Sigma are better against bastion than rein. DVA eats his dmg and sigma has 2 means to mitigate it and a rock to stall it. Dva reigns supreme but Sigma is a solid alternative
@@chase0373 it's literally not I've been getting to areas which i was unable to before especially with the buff to detonation time. I've been having 0 issues and it feels great.
I hope bastion becomes more interesting as time goes on. Best of luck to those who grind this game and I hope you're game's company makes a major U-turn kinda like capcom.
he shoot is own grenade on ball, then ball being close it boop bastion also a bit + ball doing is pilepiledriver( the fall abiltity ) making him going even higher ^^
@@wever4873just needed to know how he was flying before the pile drive (I know what that is) so it looks like he was booped from the momentum, got booped by grenade then pile drive’d to cause this series of events to map the death robot fly, thanks for the insight
Bastion feels overall no different to me. The healing is so slow that it never changes any interactions, and it’s with the part of his kit that is already really good. Overall the rocket jumping nerf (literally 50% worse) has removed skill expression from an otherwise very 2d character. You used to be able to jump up to the chandelier on eichenwalde with just the grenade, now you don’t even get close. He still might as well not have an ultimate, and recon form is still just a punching bag. Edit: chandelier is still possible, but only barely and is pretty close to frame perfect
The rocket jump wasn't nerfed at all, I literally did the chandelier jump you were talking about, the reason you can't do it anymore is because they changed the detonation time so you have to jump sooner
@@Braindead25_8 I hadn’t actually tried the chandelier tbh, I just hopped on and tried it. You can still do it, but now the timing is way tighter and it feels more like a perfect jump vs before it easy
I love watching people play Bastion seriously and make him viable. He was my original main when I started playing years ago. Don't play quite as much anymore, but he's still my favorite character.
dude he now shreds like crazy no matter what. In turret form, recon form, missile stirke form, the enemy is gonna have a bad time with all of them, but _especially_ turret form
My main opinion on Bastion is that he's in a good spot, except for his ult, his ult is basically non-existent, no damage, easy to avoid, and Tank was a perfect ult for him, it provided a lot of options and I don't know why they changed it. I played bastion actually quite a bit in OW1 and have considered maining him multiple times throughout OW1 and 2, but the only thing putting me off is that ult, I loved using Tank and its not even as if it was broken, it was just, fun. You know what, imma start something here, #BringBackTank
Hey flats I have been usually a plat to a diamond player on console I made alt accounts to try and play with some friends but after meeting the requirements to get into ranked I wasn’t able to play with them I was in masters lobbies I just wanna know if you think it’s odd because I always thought I would be a trash player in high metal lobbies is ranked easier than it was in overwatch 1 My main account was always in low ranks including in overwatch 2
A-36 Tactical Grenade Maximum explosion damage falloff reduced from 70% to 50%.( wich mean big buff some ppl dont undertand it ) Detonation time reduced from 0.5 to 0.35 seconds. Recoil adjusted to recover more quickly. Projectile size increased from 0.2 to 0.25. Impact damage increased from 15 to 30. Configuration: Recon Reload time reduced from 1.5 to 1.2 seconds. Configuration: Assault Transforming into Configuration Assault now repairs 50 armor health. Configuration: Artillery Targeting state movement speed increased from 20 to 25 meters per second. have a nice day
@@wever4873 I really appreciate it. I ain’t loaded up OW2 in a bit. I wasn’t good, but his grenade, every game, would get me a finish on a player fleeing around a corner or into cover. That’s a big buff all the way around for him.
np mate ! now is way better ! ppl can be rly toxic when they see "bad players", sometime for no raison i do nothing all the game and get flammed a bad game can happen everytime ! if u want i can coach u on bastion ^^ if ur struggling with aiming i can recomend going for 7 sens in game ( u can adjust) and 800dpi its prety slow but super acurrate, im actualy at 5 sens for 800 dpi but its rly annoying to play when everyone run super fast in any dirrections@@Yerocco
I hated this season so much that I officially deleted the game. No bit of it is even slightly fun to killing or winning, and the game is so fucking dead that I get the same players constantly. Fair to say I urge you all to do the same.
Which armor change? The one this season or the one at the start of OW2. Because only 50 healing really isn't that much when before he had a whole ability on a bar instead of a cooldown which could heal yourself.
The one this season, since it changed armor to add to dmg reduction bastion now has 50% dmg reduction when he has armor and is in sentry mode, it's kinda crazy
@@happycat4766 Armor resist percentages don't add to ability resistances, they multiply. So with Bastion in assault mode, you first factor in the 20% from ironclad and then the 30% from armor, which totals out to about 44% total resistance, not 50. Ironclad- 20%, meaning Bastion takes 80% damage Armor- 30%, meaning Bastion takes 70% of 80% of damage, or 56%, therefore negating 44% damage.
He still isn’t strong enough for higher ranks but your not gonna have much luck dealing with one as a tank unless your sigma or maybe Dva because even with Reins shield, He just melts it with ease and they made him harder to kill too so if you go at him and screw up, he can easily mess you up
hey flats thought i would mention this since not enough do i am glad that you always look at both sides of the overwatch coin people don't look at the other side enough people should really pick up what your putting down people are becoming to negative and overwatch needs a positive roll model atm, appreciate you flats
strong on low rank but thats all ^^ its acutualy one of the worst heros of time since lanch. even when is ult was infinite due to a bug ppl beraly kill 1or2 with it
Bastion's ult definitely isn't great but your usage is also pretty bad. No disrespect, I know you're just vibin but there's definitely a lot of room for improvement. Any time the enemy team has Ana, that should be your go-to target. She's a free kill unless they use a suzu which is a good CD to bait anyway. Zarya is a lowkey top target too if you're counting her bubbles. She's pretty easy to get to one with Bastion ult given her low mobility. I used to use DF ult on her in OW1 in a similar way and it worked really well.
Flats you cant be disrespecting Bastion ult when you are using it as if each missle does like 100 damage. He got ome 1 kill the whole video with it 😂. Like you should be able to secure a kill on an ana most of the time.
oof, well after a a change the 17 Sep 2019 " Bastion now correctly initiates 0.25 sec of recovery time when canceling Self-Repair by firing" + 0.50 sec animations=0.75 sec of nothing u can do after a shoot and heal. wich mean that u have to perfect 2buton in 0.25 sec 8 time in a row, not even considering adding rocket or super rocket jump @@reaper8664 wich mean it was the most frame perfectt ult in the entire game
"As long as I destroy their rein every fight we win the game" lore accurate bastion
yep and thats my thoughts anytime I see a rein (I go brt mode)
I mean... if you're getting tank diffed, the solution is to delete the enemy tank from the game one way or another. It's definitely _a_ win condition.
If the enemy stays on rein when a bastion is present, that’s their own fault.
Bastion is now lore accurate
Bastion is now lore accurate
@@Oradot11_Official
Bastion is now lore accurate
Bastion is now lore accurate
Bastion is now lore accurate
That Rein (PDUGGY) seemed so nice. always happy to see players who are great at the game and great people ❤
I read his name as PUDGGY
What about great and not great at the game (that’s what I am)
@@thebigsucc030 still much better than being toxic 🫂
@@thebigsucc030same thing ig
I wish I had a partner that sounded and acted like that I'd be pretty set
I’m enjoying the flats bastion arc. Good to see him just laughing and playing some OW
The reload buff is actually wild
its a good buff tho from the fact he has low damage in recon so having that faster reload is nice
@@felsbywarcraft1017plus the dps reload speed buff, very potent combination of buffs
2:42 I was in shambles he didn't nade jump.
Dude, some people might say it's a little broken, but I think he's in the perfect spot right now. Because if you played bastion in above anything, then diamond you were playing get jumped simulator.
I'd like to see Bastion slightly stronger on recon form with a more reliable primary fire and slightly weaker in turret to compensate, but that's a good buff for sure
Or a way weaker turret form, but be able to swap between both
Holy shit a good take, my sentiments exactly, when I was pushing from diamond to master's with bastion shit got hard.(bastion main 150h)
Yea because bastion is a bitch character that takes no skill to play, so when good players see him they know to dive him
Literally a Honzo pin cushion
@@lucky_-1ywhat? His recon form gun is lowkey crazy, its like mini soldier
8:58 Ana "New PVE mode is crazy" LMAO
9:38 That lifeweaver petal made you look like you were just flying for no reason.
Bastion feels so good rn
Wish they would just rework his ult again. Half the reason off meta picks like bastion and torb are bad is because they have dps ults that don't make it easy to wipe a team.
Mmmmmffgghh....
@@Bamblez I got a quad yesterday with his ult. Just don't drop it all in a single location.
@@Bamblez it's exactly that "fine". It's not a genji or sojourn you can nano combo to garentee atleast 3 kills or a whole team backs off with way less effort. Just because you have a few clips of people with movement on cooldown or a few ana kills doesn't mean it's not literally B teir at best.
@@PokemonFan-j6i I can get a triple kills on sojourn every day. When bastion had an unlimited ult bug it still only got 2 kills consistently. It's not about being good at using it as much as getting lucky people didn't move out of it. Exact reason why doom ult is only good for getting out, not getting kills.
Beep beep boop
Eeeeeeee-boop
What did you just say about my mother
Bwoo bwoo bwoo, bwo boo bee boo bop
You’re getting cancelled
WEEEEEEEEEUWWEWEEEEEE
Ah that explains why bastion had a 100% pick rate this morning in my ranked games
13:03 the hog ragdoll go crazy
The rein on flats team on the first game got the chilliest vibes
4:03
"Blasting this Rein, blastin him blastin him, Rein dead"
Flats on Bastion: "So anyways I started blastin'"
Bastin ‘em i’m blastin ‘em
9:24
Me: when my favorite song comes on.
It fell satisfying when you hit an enemy with the grenades when thier far a way and you stuck them with.
5:47
Lifeweaver is one of my favourite characters across all media. After taking a break for a few months, that made me feel like logging in again
Respect to the other rein, lived past his name and did the respectful rein duel even with a bastion reeming him
Flats on tank: droid/apple quality
Flats on dps: wish quality
Flats on support: we don't publicly discuss that
9:19 this segment is gonna live rent free in my head for awhile 😂
Btw the Torb buff is bigger than I think people realize because now there is more skill since using his primary fire can be more effective now then the shotgun.
Honestly, I’ve been playing pretty much just Torb and Bastion since I started playing, despite them both not being meta, just because I loved their individual play styles. Now that they’re both buffed, should make life much more fun lol
Sad trying to play off meta with zoning ults. Dps is the worst role in the game and sadly the only way to feel impactful somtimes is having a ult that braindead combos with a nano
@@GVQuadra yeah, but it’s fine. I’m happy with my funny little engineer man and my wholesome robot play. Makes life interesting
Flats’ venn diagram ults are hularious to me lol
Bro should be on the bingo card fr
Lmao was gonna say like all of them were
Is playing D'va into Bastion not way better than rein into Bastion?
I find erasing damage is so much more useful than blocking it, i'd be eating bastion bullets, rein firestrikes, in fact Flats whole team is projectile based.
Is it the lower rank I'm in? is it not a viable strat in GM?
Of course it's a viable strat, they probably lose that match bcs they didn't swap
Just cause something isn’t efficient doesn’t mean you can make it work. But yes, Dva is a go to for bastion in every rank cause of DM. DM go stupid.
Both DVA and Sigma are better against bastion than rein. DVA eats his dmg and sigma has 2 means to mitigate it and a rock to stall it. Dva reigns supreme but Sigma is a solid alternative
“Either you die a hero or live long enough to become the villain”
With the grenade changes grenade jumping with bastion is so much better, I'll grenade jump and turrent in mid air and get some nasty kills.
You can’t be serious, rocket jumping was nerfed into the ground. It’s literally 50% worse.
@@chase0373 it's literally not I've been getting to areas which i was unable to before especially with the buff to detonation time. I've been having 0 issues and it feels great.
@@yeah3708 th-cam.com/video/Wv-hFHRfFkE/w-d-xo.html I promise it’s nerfed
@@chase0373 you need to jump sooner bro
@@jevy2099 th-cam.com/video/Wv-hFHRfFkE/w-d-xo.html
Music at 11:15 ?
There's some unexplainable amount of dopamine when you land bank shots with sticky I swear
9:20 ish when he was just dancing
Bro the old western music in the background is such a vibe Flats 🤣🤣 shit had me bobbing my head the whole video
I hope bastion becomes more interesting as time goes on.
Best of luck to those who grind this game and I hope you're game's company makes a major U-turn kinda like capcom.
I forgot that bastion got a buff lol.
Overshadowed by lifeweaver, illari, review bombing, pve, and much other things
14:25 song?
13:03 what was this with the roadhog XD
10:58 I say the same thing everyday bro 😂
13:04 he just try to copy reaper ult, and he did it 😭😭
Forget bastion. Lifeweaver actually GOATED now.
I really like the background music it’s calming amidst the chaos
8:59 "New PVE mode is crazy"
Whats that music that you put?it was relaxing tbh
Find it?
@@burgerking3678 nah not yet.. waiting for someone to respond.
Bigweld whispered in my ear “you must watch robots” now after I finish this video I’m going to watch robots
9:19 I am that person. I dodge all in-game bullets in real life
bastion after the buffs be like 9:24
Completely random question but is Paradiso back yet or is the frquency of that map just screwed up?
9:23 One person Hikaru Nakamura Chess Grandmaster.
Jabba the hutt approves
9:19
Me, being autistic, almost constantly stimming: 😭🤷🏾♂️🤙🏾😀🕺🏾
whats the background music on the second match
Find it?
9:37 how did. bastion fly here?
he shoot is own grenade on ball, then ball being close it boop bastion also a bit + ball doing is pilepiledriver( the fall abiltity ) making him going even higher ^^
@@wever4873just needed to know how he was flying before the pile drive (I know what that is) so it looks like he was booped from the momentum, got booped by grenade then pile drive’d to cause this series of events to map the death robot fly, thanks for the insight
np^^ @@master_mega new nade did big boops now
what is the flute song in back?
Find it?
Bastion feels overall no different to me. The healing is so slow that it never changes any interactions, and it’s with the part of his kit that is already really good. Overall the rocket jumping nerf (literally 50% worse) has removed skill expression from an otherwise very 2d character. You used to be able to jump up to the chandelier on eichenwalde with just the grenade, now you don’t even get close. He still might as well not have an ultimate, and recon form is still just a punching bag.
Edit: chandelier is still possible, but only barely and is pretty close to frame perfect
The rocket jump wasn't nerfed at all, I literally did the chandelier jump you were talking about, the reason you can't do it anymore is because they changed the detonation time so you have to jump sooner
@@Braindead25_8 th-cam.com/video/Wv-hFHRfFkE/w-d-xo.html
@@Braindead25_8 I hadn’t actually tried the chandelier tbh, I just hopped on and tried it. You can still do it, but now the timing is way tighter and it feels more like a perfect jump vs before it easy
@@chase0373 Thats skill issue now lmao.
Skill issue
The enemy rein feels the pain of a thousands reins experience
Most relaxing Flats video ever.
Your outro is underrated
I love watching people play Bastion seriously and make him viable. He was my original main when I started playing years ago. Don't play quite as much anymore, but he's still my favorite character.
Wdym make him viable? He is top tier now because when he is in his turret form there’s basically nothing you can do but run to cover
He got buffed but they are minor changes but also needed to balance out how huge his hitbox is. Not sure about the armor healing though.
dude he now shreds like crazy no matter what. In turret form, recon form, missile stirke form, the enemy is gonna have a bad time with all of them, but _especially_ turret form
My main opinion on Bastion is that he's in a good spot, except for his ult, his ult is basically non-existent, no damage, easy to avoid, and Tank was a perfect ult for him, it provided a lot of options and I don't know why they changed it. I played bastion actually quite a bit in OW1 and have considered maining him multiple times throughout OW1 and 2, but the only thing putting me off is that ult, I loved using Tank and its not even as if it was broken, it was just, fun. You know what, imma start something here, #BringBackTank
300 dmg bro
It would be way to much in 5v5. His ult sucks because his kits op
@@ryansantana168 and that's if you're lucky
@@gavincalton5450 its not op it's fairly balanced tbh
@@gavincalton5450 He is op if you play on plat
I’m going to reveal my age a big, but whenever someone says buffed bastion all I hear is Buff Bagwell
I’m blastin I’m blastin I’m blastin I’m blastin em.
was going to put on a creepypasta, but this is way scarier
9:21 let me introduce you to Hikaru Nakamura...
Take a shot every time he says hes blasting
He thinks he is funny too
Yes i kinda main bastion and this buff was so needed
Glad to see you have a bit of fun in comp for a little bit at least.
wake up flats uploaded a video
Bastion is literally going *BRRR*
I wonder if this bastion is anywhere close to ironclad bastion.
Hey flats I have been usually a plat to a diamond player on console I made alt accounts to try and play with some friends but after meeting the requirements to get into ranked I wasn’t able to play with them I was in masters lobbies I just wanna know if you think it’s odd because I always thought I would be a trash player in high metal lobbies is ranked easier than it was in overwatch 1
My main account was always in low ranks including in overwatch 2
as a bastion main i am VERY happy with the buffs. You now have a higher survivability without supports.
hi mate
omaygot@@wever4873
9:31 everyone else tbh lololol
What was the bastion buff?
A-36 Tactical Grenade
Maximum explosion damage falloff reduced from 70% to 50%.( wich mean big buff some ppl dont undertand it )
Detonation time reduced from 0.5 to 0.35 seconds.
Recoil adjusted to recover more quickly.
Projectile size increased from 0.2 to 0.25.
Impact damage increased from 15 to 30.
Configuration: Recon
Reload time reduced from 1.5 to 1.2 seconds.
Configuration: Assault
Transforming into Configuration Assault now repairs 50 armor health.
Configuration: Artillery
Targeting state movement speed increased from 20 to 25 meters per second.
have a nice day
@@wever4873 I really appreciate it. I ain’t loaded up OW2 in a bit. I wasn’t good, but his grenade, every game, would get me a finish on a player fleeing around a corner or into cover. That’s a big buff all the way around for him.
np mate !
now is way better !
ppl can be rly toxic when they see "bad players", sometime for no raison i do nothing all the game and get flammed a bad game can happen everytime !
if u want i can coach u on bastion ^^
if ur struggling with aiming i can recomend going for 7 sens in game ( u can adjust) and 800dpi its prety slow but super acurrate, im actualy at 5 sens for 800 dpi but its rly annoying to play when everyone run super fast in any dirrections@@Yerocco
That was horrendous ult usage
true xd
I hated this season so much that I officially deleted the game. No bit of it is even slightly fun to killing or winning, and the game is so fucking dead that I get the same players constantly. Fair to say I urge you all to do the same.
I think that the healing change when he goes into turret mode is way too much since the armor change just buffed him…
Which armor change? The one this season or the one at the start of OW2. Because only 50 healing really isn't that much when before he had a whole ability on a bar instead of a cooldown which could heal yourself.
The one this season, since it changed armor to add to dmg reduction bastion now has 50% dmg reduction when he has armor and is in sentry mode, it's kinda crazy
@@happycat4766 Armor resist percentages don't add to ability resistances, they multiply. So with Bastion in assault mode, you first factor in the 20% from ironclad and then the 30% from armor, which totals out to about 44% total resistance, not 50.
Ironclad- 20%, meaning Bastion takes 80% damage
Armor- 30%, meaning Bastion takes 70% of 80% of damage, or 56%, therefore negating 44% damage.
Look at the patch notes right below hero updates. they made it additive a week ago
He still isn’t strong enough for higher ranks but your not gonna have much luck dealing with one as a tank unless your sigma or maybe Dva because even with Reins shield, He just melts it with ease and they made him harder to kill too so if you go at him and screw up, he can easily mess you up
Bastion go brrr in back
I live bastion this patch, playing as mercy pocketing him or being pocketed is great.
With the new life weaver buff bastion can have 500 hp
Emongg soldier is kinda crazy
They brought the second tank back😂
I wanted to see the BIG SLAM!!
Just hit my first aimbot bastion in qp; the wall following is always the dead giveaway it seems. (and the super janky aim that is all of sudden good)
Good news: Bastion buff!
Bad News: I started maining Doomfist...
How is that bad news lol. Bastion isn't good into doom
mmmmmeh as a bastion otp i can say that he cant dive me, and is a dive heros so idk look like its a suicide @@ianmills6260
Bro that flute sent me to sleep
Anyone else know that The new mythical Anna Skin affects her beach ball emote?
hey flats thought i would mention this since not enough do i am glad that you always look at both sides of the overwatch coin people don't look at the other side enough people should really pick up what your putting down people are becoming to negative and overwatch needs a positive roll model atm, appreciate you flats
Why tf get bastion a buff? He was already op! What's next? A sombra or pharah buff??
strong on low rank but thats all ^^ its acutualy one of the worst heros of time since lanch.
even when is ult was infinite due to a bug ppl beraly kill 1or2 with it
Bastion is best when you flank that’s all I do with him disappear and flank
Bep bep boop boop
Took them like 3 years to actually fix the que times
the music in the second half was giving me a headache and im unsure why
What is that melody
Bastion's ult definitely isn't great but your usage is also pretty bad. No disrespect, I know you're just vibin but there's definitely a lot of room for improvement.
Any time the enemy team has Ana, that should be your go-to target. She's a free kill unless they use a suzu which is a good CD to bait anyway.
Zarya is a lowkey top target too if you're counting her bubbles. She's pretty easy to get to one with Bastion ult given her low mobility. I used to use DF ult on her in OW1 in a similar way and it worked really well.
he was using it pretty badly not gonna lie ^^
Only thing that would make bastion perfect rn is an ult buff. Either an extra shell or larger radius
giving is old ult back wiith the heal only on ult. would be so good
@@wever4873 👎🏽
shot and heal mecanics was insanly good and super hard to master after the +0.25sec recovery change. @@jevy2099
They should give Bastion the Doomfist treatment and just make him a tank already lmao
That’s what orisia’s for
Ehh the fact that they changed bastion so much that he barely resembles his old self is what made me drop the mere thought of trying overwatch 2
Man i miss tank form 😪
Flats you cant be disrespecting Bastion ult when you are using it as if each missle does like 100 damage. He got ome 1 kill the whole video with it 😂. Like you should be able to secure a kill on an ana most of the time.
I’m glad they make an easy character even easier to play
wanna talk about the old 0.25 sec frame X8per ult ?
@@wever4873 last time I played ow1 was like 4 years ago
oof, well after a a change the 17 Sep 2019 " Bastion now correctly initiates 0.25 sec of recovery time when canceling Self-Repair by firing" + 0.50 sec animations=0.75 sec of nothing u can do after a shoot and heal.
wich mean that u have to perfect 2buton in 0.25 sec 8 time in a row, not even considering adding rocket or super rocket jump @@reaper8664
wich mean it was the most frame perfectt ult in the entire game
they did buff bastion, lol he was in all my matches and shredded through us lol