They Locked Bastion And Roadhog In OWCS

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  • @skeletenkid
    @skeletenkid 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +697

    when flats roots for the hog player. not because he likes hog, but because he dislikes orisa that much.

    • @johnnyawsm8942
      @johnnyawsm8942 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Like everyone else, its orisa...

    • @rishabh5750
      @rishabh5750 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      he also looks like hog

    • @BlueDrew10
      @BlueDrew10 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      And Mauga. Mauga is just so boring... I'm a Hog frequenter, and I'll admit he should never be meta because he's low skill. But Orisa and Mauga are even lower skill AND they're boring to play. Especially Mauga. They have no business being anywhere close to meta, yet here we are.

    • @KH0RNE
      @KH0RNE 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@rishabh5750 that's wild

    • @Sheltur_0311
      @Sheltur_0311 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BlueDrew10mauga to counter the orisa if ima be honest, what i run

  • @gardenshedd
    @gardenshedd 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +573

    The age old question: “Where was Bastionmain even hiding?”

    • @gwyn.
      @gwyn. 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

      Look behind and 45° downward is where you find him.

  • @m0rphine_834
    @m0rphine_834 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +298

    Vice were trying to play chess on nepal but dirt's eating the pieces

    • @jasonkumfer2986
      @jasonkumfer2986 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Accurate analogy ✅

    • @shiloh3541
      @shiloh3541 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Lmfaooo

  • @unmellowthegamer8946
    @unmellowthegamer8946 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +142

    "I don't fear the man that has practiced 1000 kicks once, but i do fear the man that has practiced one kick 1000 times."

  • @therealasian6999
    @therealasian6999 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +185

    The team “aww yeah” lock in ball and junk rat made me happy 😂

    • @emburst859
      @emburst859 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      When Flats mentioned the team Avoided at the beginning, they turned into Aww Yeah. It still has many of the same people on the team. Chazm, the ball player, was a ball one trick on Avoided who literally went by the name "Ball" for a while.

    • @DPIstanley
      @DPIstanley 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      My guy was talking about avoided like Kayzer and Chazm aren't killing it on aww yeah right now

  • @Shadow211195
    @Shadow211195 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +89

    This kinda made me realise: Imagine Cyx playing serious for once and joining a team. Dude would be an absolute menace.

    • @cometasteroids7761
      @cometasteroids7761 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Bro i really wanna see how cracked cyx is when he locks in the entire time.

    • @joegarrison5911
      @joegarrison5911 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Him and blackswordz are the two best Hog one tricks. Maybe there's one in Asia I don't know of but those guys are always towards the top of the ladder

  • @Momo_pstat4
    @Momo_pstat4 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +128

    Wanted bastionmain to win so badly. I am so bored of tracer sojurn just getting to do everything

    • @mattevans4377
      @mattevans4377 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      And before that Tracer Echo, and before that Tracer Genji. I'm sensing a pattern.....

    • @Momo_pstat4
      @Momo_pstat4 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@mattevans4377 i was more ok with tracer gengi, cause the comp sorta forces a team to play pure dive, which is so fun to both play and watch. Tracer echo was iffy, but tracer sojurn i just despise. The comp gets to do whatever you want it to be. Wanna be more brawly? Go orisa + moira. You wanna be a bit more dive? Run lucio kiri, and a tank with some mobility (since soj’s slide and range lets her basically be a dive hero if you wanted). You wanna bunker up/ poke? Tracer weirdly has the range to do it/ can break bunkers, so run an orisa + bap + kiri. The dps core is so flexible, it just lets you slot it into wherever you want it to be slotted into.

    • @mattevans4377
      @mattevans4377 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Momo_pstat4 We shouldn't still be seeing Tracer though, after all these changes.

    • @Momo_pstat4
      @Momo_pstat4 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@mattevans4377 very true. I agree there. I also wanna see soj nerfed into the ground. She has never been bad in ow2, just maybe not hard meta at times (but has been hard meta a few times and no one had fun)

    • @albedokreideprinz9205
      @albedokreideprinz9205 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Sojurn is just boring to watch being played tbh

  • @greed7ds139
    @greed7ds139 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +149

    My goats the 5'2 bmain and dirt

  • @QuarianGuy
    @QuarianGuy 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

    This is a certified "I'm sorry, I wasn't familiar with your game." moment.
    Love to see it.

  • @Shadowfex
    @Shadowfex 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    This is the Pro Overwatch we all want to see. Damn that was fun.

  • @rcbs9385
    @rcbs9385 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    The announcers sounded like they were enjoying a different matchup as well

  • @bazzfromthebackground3696
    @bazzfromthebackground3696 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Literally this team comp was *"Look over here."* Hog and Bastion were the distraction, because if you took your eyes off them you got mowed down. That let Moira and Tracer constantly take either flank. Lucio stuck with the distractions to get them around them map faster.

  • @joshuataylor5080
    @joshuataylor5080 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    Actually the most entertaining OWCS I've seen yet.

  • @eagerinspirit
    @eagerinspirit 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    this moira is actually putting in INSANE work my god

  • @michaelbillingham5580
    @michaelbillingham5580 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    Dirt just bullying orisa and bastionmain constantly just somewhere random

  • @Spoiledboy-dm3lc
    @Spoiledboy-dm3lc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +120

    I’m pretty sure vice was the team, in which their coach publicly flamed them on Twitter because they “had to counterswap to win” please correct me if I’m mistaken, I think sloth was the one player that tweeted discord dms between theirs and a different coach

    • @Phobie_2008
      @Phobie_2008 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Yep, sure is.

    • @Spoiledboy-dm3lc
      @Spoiledboy-dm3lc 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@joshuataylor5080 I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure it was them. bogur has a video covering what happened with the coach, it didn’t seem like the guy was joking around either

    • @Spoiledboy-dm3lc
      @Spoiledboy-dm3lc 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@joshuataylor5080 no, vices coach flammed his own team

    • @michaeljcaboose1152
      @michaeljcaboose1152 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      Incredibly based, if you’re a pro team and your tank swaps to Mauga they deserve to get publicly shamed.

    • @musicmaster8254
      @musicmaster8254 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sigma coach​@@michaeljcaboose1152

  • @user-st5py6ot5v
    @user-st5py6ot5v 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    The age old argument: sojourn is strong
    Blizzard: nerf genji

    • @mattevans4377
      @mattevans4377 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Playerbase: Don't look at Tracer

    • @michaelj49
      @michaelj49 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@mattevans4377 unlike sojourn, tracer takes skill. any dumbass with enough aim can spam and hit some shots with that railgun the size of mount fiji

    • @mattevans4377
      @mattevans4377 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@michaelj49 Yeah, Tracer was so skilled, they had to invent Brig to deal with her. And that was during 6v6.

    • @michaelj49
      @michaelj49 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mattevans4377 You forgot the part where they broke the entire game because they created the easiest, most spammable, non skilled cringey melee character that even your mon could use. that wasnt tracers fault, that was a devs issue, but whatever bro lmao

    • @mattevans4377
      @mattevans4377 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@michaelj49 It was. They refused to nerf Tracer, so added a hero that countered her instead. Problem was, to counter Tracer, also meant countering the rest of the characters too

  • @etherphenix1150
    @etherphenix1150 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    climbing as a one trick is the ultimate display of skill in overwatch*2*

    • @ballisticbullet428
      @ballisticbullet428 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I tell people that and my team gets mad at me because I'm not protecting them as doom in getting kills and taking space I'm able to sometimes save my team but that's if you position your self so I can easily help you

    • @etherphenix1150
      @etherphenix1150 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ballisticbullet428 Yeah I’m guessing you’re in low rank (below master) and what ppl don’t understand is that even though you could swap they could also adapt to you and output a team play to make your pick work. Ppl are just dumb overall. When it gets to something more complex than shooting what you see you loose 80% of them already 😂

  • @thanoswalles1352
    @thanoswalles1352 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I think one tricking in overwatch is gigabased, out skilling the counter is 10x more satisfying than switching off.

  • @ceene5327
    @ceene5327 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    i absolutely love teams like this. i get bored watching the same team comp over and over. this makes it really exciting. i think they should implement a competitive tournament with 5v5 random heroes retaining the 1-2-2 format. it would make games really interesting seeing how high skill players adapt to what they are given. it would be more entertaining allow devs recognize balancing requirements.

  • @abbattior
    @abbattior 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The casters said at the very beginning “they locked bastion and roadhog” flats is king of never paying attention

  • @Phobie_2008
    @Phobie_2008 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    Bro the Polar Hog skin is so unbelievably peak.
    1:48 are we as bad as Orisa or Sombra players though, flats?

    • @advancegeo2986
      @advancegeo2986 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      theyre all on the same level

    • @advancegeo2986
      @advancegeo2986 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      no one is worse then the others theyre just all annoying

    • @waterfence3
      @waterfence3 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@advancegeo2986sombra easily the worst

    • @PrimeKeroHS
      @PrimeKeroHS 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Depending on what you play in general, most of the cast can be considered annoying, so it's all nonsense really

    • @advancegeo2986
      @advancegeo2986 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PrimeKeroHS thats just not true of course there are always counters to what youre playing but those character pratically counter half the roster just by existing anyone like mei or sombra who take away your ability to fight back will always feel bad in an ability shooter

  • @AbashedCarc
    @AbashedCarc 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Honestly, while I am not too fond of one-tricks, I am glad to see some variation in OWCS... The matches feel quite dull when its always Orisa, Tracer, Soljourn, Kiri, Lucio....

  • @aqn01
    @aqn01 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    02:24 lucio started to cook

  • @Donkey_Budder
    @Donkey_Budder 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Good thing they counter swapped they almost had to use skill

  • @scottwillian2120
    @scottwillian2120 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    18:40 PICK THE F ANA AND THE F ZEN
    I CAN'T BE FORCED TO ORISA ALONE

  • @NoobiePlaysGamesIDK
    @NoobiePlaysGamesIDK 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It pains me to watch this honestly, I wanted Nightmare to win but there's just nothing you can do against the other team locking both meta dps and toggling between 2 meta tanks

  • @jace_519
    @jace_519 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    its like the chess move where you just piss on the board

  • @Hoehlenmaensch
    @Hoehlenmaensch 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    why did i miss this one? its beautiful. wish OW esports would always look like this. "You play meta? Okay, we just play what we like."

  • @rgpdno
    @rgpdno 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    26:22
    clean ahh transition from Mauga to Tracer

  • @thesalad943
    @thesalad943 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    That second match sucked cause you could really tell the better team didn’t win, it was just the full on hard counter mess express

  • @dagclo
    @dagclo 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been enjoying these a lot!

  • @Prolink
    @Prolink 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I heard you mention this on the Group Up Podcast. Thank goodness I watch enough of all your channels to get this recommendation; I wouldn’t have found this game on my own.

  • @eagerinspirit
    @eagerinspirit 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this felt like watching a ranked match with hard comms

  • @maxenti
    @maxenti 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    martha?

  • @carterlindstrom4831
    @carterlindstrom4831 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey does anybody know if the usual Outro song, know the feeling, is copyrighted? Thanks.

  • @tfulookingat8312
    @tfulookingat8312 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I always wondered from where is that moira skin?, i never see it neither in store, nor in hero galery.

    • @Phobie_2008
      @Phobie_2008 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s one of her overwatch 1 archives skins.

  • @marcikarcza4598
    @marcikarcza4598 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I get that this is high level play and ana is bad because of her mobility, but i think it would still be a good pick against mauga or roadhog for either teams

  • @lorenexus4917
    @lorenexus4917 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When you have to counter pick a non meta team comp. You know how bad it is for them.

  • @emburst859
    @emburst859 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the team Avoided that flats talked about turned into EU's AWW YEAH. Because Chazm is Ball from Avoided.

  • @nekogami87
    @nekogami87 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am so happy there is a namekuji brother equivalent in other region too now :D fuck the meta, give us fun to watch and root for. 😂

  • @user-lh7mt7zo7l
    @user-lh7mt7zo7l 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Remember when they said they wanted to help remove counterwatch?

  • @rotherd9671
    @rotherd9671 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Watch the Moira be Nolan on an alt XD

  • @JohnSmith-dz2dc
    @JohnSmith-dz2dc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Can someone explain the use of “special move” instead of “ultimate”?

    • @GeoffronX
      @GeoffronX 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      My favorite character is the reaper guy. he is very powerfull. special move, honestly is one of the best in the game and so he comes equipped with these two revolvers and only takes about 3 or 4 shots to actually execute a kill so it comes really in handy specially when you come from the side.

    • @draunt7
      @draunt7 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Some characters have combo's that are part of their kit. Think Roadhog's 1 shot hook combo.

    • @slainoncod
      @slainoncod 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GeoffronXit’s shotguns, his ult is nowhere near the best in the game. everything counters it. dva defense matrix, sigma rock, ana sleep, sigma can also absorb it, widow can easily headshot snipe you because you can’t really move when popping it. reaper q is really only viable in low ranks because low ranked players aren’t smart enough to look for it. anything past plat and you’re getting sat down the moment you even THINK about pressing Q.

  • @lukasberke
    @lukasberke 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the otp team was also the only team to watch with joy ngl

  • @A_Name136
    @A_Name136 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    36:53
    dude no cap i am also eating popcorn because I was craving it

  • @Chunkyloops
    @Chunkyloops 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One tricks find a way to make it work

  • @cirno9349
    @cirno9349 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nightmare are now my goats

  • @alexandrelemee1540
    @alexandrelemee1540 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    team of old otp is clockwork vendetta

  • @AUMOTmusic
    @AUMOTmusic 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    LISAN AL HOG

  • @Shrimp4Gura
    @Shrimp4Gura 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine if we get to see Dirt vs Nozl

  • @georgealvarez1195
    @georgealvarez1195 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    when your 5 stack ranked only strats dont apply here lmaoo

  • @Blacksunstoneful
    @Blacksunstoneful 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Imagine scrimming for weeks with your comp just to be forced to pick mauga and ana cause some dude shits on you with hog lol

  • @noisypr6048
    @noisypr6048 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love off-meta picks

  • @Adelemphii
    @Adelemphii 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly as someone who plays roadhog (ever since ow2, I haven't just had the drive to enjoy the german man anymore...) somewhat decently, I don't like flashpoint. Other than my personal feelings of "walking simulator" and "it feels like it lasts for forever", I honestly think some points are too open and make it hard for me to make the most of hog's kit because I get poked out before I'm even close enough to get something done. The woes of a lucio player on roadhog.

  • @curie1420
    @curie1420 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    shit like this makes me want to watch ow2 tournaments now, its always been soo boring seeing mirror matches

  • @notgryphon
    @notgryphon 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is this what people mean when they talk about a damage comp?

  • @aqn01
    @aqn01 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    finally something interesting other than same basically same teams all the time

  • @daoceanman7300
    @daoceanman7300 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just me and Martha

  • @itsmejoseph
    @itsmejoseph 32 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    I am wondering why didn't dirt go dva i dont watch the owcs if someone can explain that would be great.

  • @oldthug7624
    @oldthug7624 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I swear OWCS is so trolley. These plays would never work in my plat/diamond lobbies 😂

    • @westidegunnadlibs
      @westidegunnadlibs 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I mean when you’re among the best players in the world and on a team of other top players while everyone is communicating at the highest level, it’s a lot easier to make anything 18:12 work than it would be in slightly above average ranked games where it’s basically a free for all lmao

    • @oldthug7624
      @oldthug7624 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@westidegunnadlibs yeah you do got a point. I still see a lot of plays where it gets me thinking like “wait, this is one of the top players in the world?” lol not like I’m close to as good as them though.

  • @BTTRSWYT
    @BTTRSWYT 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Remember when bastion was meta?

    • @wever4873
      @wever4873 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      no i dont xd. is bad since release

  • @danielmastia87
    @danielmastia87 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    At 14:30 KYIDK does a weird lock on Ana, very weird at 0.25x much like aimbot to be honest. A hard perfect lock-on for like 3 frames, just when left click is pressed. That is REALLY suspicious.

  • @Sharples97
    @Sharples97 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'll literally root for any team that's not running orisa

  • @MrBastionOverwatch0
    @MrBastionOverwatch0 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    BASTION!!!!!

    • @wever4873
      @wever4873 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      brostion
      btw didnt u have Xacount ? i think im already following u xd

    • @MrBastionOverwatch0
      @MrBastionOverwatch0 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wever4873 maybe 🤔

  • @Burkius
    @Burkius 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I find it a little insane flats is saying “good adjustments” but also says “counter swapping a monkey could do” and I agree with the latter. There is zero skill in swapping lmfao, so lame.

  • @rickflorida3838
    @rickflorida3838 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don’t sleep on Moria. She’s kills and heals.

  • @TJBJ-20-19
    @TJBJ-20-19 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Flats dissagreees with the soilder but better comment about soujurn, then continues to explain why shes soilder but better lmao

  • @aranax418
    @aranax418 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WHY DONT THEY SWAP TO ZENYATTA OR ANA OR SOMETHING

  • @SpectrumHearts
    @SpectrumHearts 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is why I love OWCS leagues better than OWL

  • @dawsonsisk3469
    @dawsonsisk3469 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Always sad to see a meta slave team win

  • @ballpaddish
    @ballpaddish 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it honestly so stupid that counterswaping beats skill

  • @jahagkagau6061
    @jahagkagau6061 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ive been saying for ages hog is pretty good against orisa

  • @slainoncod
    @slainoncod 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    bmain playing league?

  • @FrankyColon
    @FrankyColon 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    flats, you gotta get over hating hog. love hog bro, just embrace the dark side. hes fun, hes crazy, he's not orisa

  • @wever4873
    @wever4873 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ppl : bASTION IS OP HUUUUUUUUUH
    reality : best bastion only make 5kill in this entire video and 0 with is ult
    also reality : tracer sojourn everywhere
    ppls : plz nerf bastion

  • @wanna877
    @wanna877 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bastion deserves an E

  • @beware_alex1446
    @beware_alex1446 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hog for life

    • @beware_alex1446
      @beware_alex1446 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      TTV-DEADROD_ hog player for the Win

  • @gap9447
    @gap9447 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yaay, mauga won this one!

  • @Burkius
    @Burkius 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Couldn’t they have just played Ana? LOL

  • @liamd3484
    @liamd3484 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    THATS NOT A SPECTATOR BUG! It's the God awful netcode that is now the weak crumbling backbone of the game! The game has a serious problem with late packets and packet bursting. The ping and latency is unprecedented, and the network error icons on the left are constantly shown! This game is in a bad state network-wise. Finally other people are noticing...

  • @wanna877
    @wanna877 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is whats wrong with OW...... its not the team with the most insane, its the one that counter the hardest.... ZZzzZzzz

  • @pabl0334
    @pabl0334 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Even in champion serious they play the CW game haha wow Good Job Blizzard on Fixing the issue on going 5v5 RIP 2 tank

  • @Sauze.
    @Sauze. 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is OWCS? I thought pro league ended 🤔

  • @droidaka6139
    @droidaka6139 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    afk till hog hits a hook. Thats the strat

    • @wever4873
      @wever4873 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      like a genji stupid comp. afk til u got nanoblade

  • @QuarianGuy
    @QuarianGuy 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Congrats to Vice but not gonna lie, their gameplay was so boring to watch compared to Nightmare.

  • @bradybarrilleaux6419
    @bradybarrilleaux6419 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First

  • @cbass2238
    @cbass2238 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Made me think this game could be fun for one round. Smh

  • @AutumnReel4444
    @AutumnReel4444 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Swapping is the worst part of the game, remove it

  • @Scamyul
    @Scamyul 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Counterwatch is so cringe and it limits the game at all levels

  • @_mgcobra_9846
    @_mgcobra_9846 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hot take: every character added to OW2 has been ass with the exception of Junker Queen, Rammatra, and Venture

    • @ceene5327
      @ceene5327 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes and no. i wouldnt call them ass. they are all fun in there own regard but have flawed design. kiriko: was given too much powerful utility. illari: has wonky primary healing and a overpowered dps ultimate. lifeweaver: literally a heal bot and too long cooldowns, with abilities that dont match the play style that this primary and secondary fire ask for. sojourn was a hit imo. mauga: stupid ultimate, and i dont like his hitbox or movement

    • @ink3487
      @ink3487 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@ceene5327sojourn was the biggest miss only mauga comes close. Good in every situation youd ever put her in. Massive burst damage completely untelegraphed. Free AoE damage for building an insanely strong ult that only requires good aim. Bad positioning isnt punished because slide is one of the freest escapes ever. Shes way too strong and way too versatile for the only thing she demands from the player being aim.

    • @ceene5327
      @ceene5327 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ink3487 biggest miss is wrong. yes her kit is powerful and versatile. but i dont think heroes should be designed based with intentions of flaws and counter play, this should naturally happen as people learn about the character. the idea when designing sojourn suited her character and her abilities coordinates with her other abilities. without implementing inherently overpowered ability concepts like invulnerability or abilities like swift step. instead a piercing concept was new and interesting, along with an ultimate that utilizes an existing ability rather than random garbage like cage fight.

    • @marsss-03
      @marsss-03 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ceene5327 Life Grip is probably one of my least favorite things added in the game ever, zero way to do anything about it if the LW is miles away (which he should be) and it just feels so cheap because you can deny a kill from someone that (probably) had to aim and position themselves correctly just by pointing your face at your teammate's direction. Petal has potential at least its not as cheap as Life Grip or lame as Rejuvenating Dash and your teammates can get creative with it like that one Rein in bogur's video that used it to pin a Pharah.

  • @calvinadams5780
    @calvinadams5780 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Flats you sound a little salty lol u no like hog mains I see