@@thekiller7994 "Hack fraud" is just a running joke in the RLM fanbase. I think it started because Plinkett calls George Lucas a "hack fraud conman" in one of the Star Wars Reviews. Either that or it started as a joke about the fans who would accuse RLM of being hacks and frauds for having the wrong opinions on a movie. Either way, it just pops up now and again.
@@sweetnerevarr4169 It might be like a Primus situation where he asked the fans to say "Primus sucks!" and it became this fun gag. Later on, when Tim Alexander left the band, he said something like "Yeah... Tim was the MVP of the band. We were good at what we did, but our 'songs' didn't have much of a structure and we had a hard time keeping time. Tim made the songs sound more dynamic and his tight playing made us sound tighter than we really were. I didn't think we were a good band without Tim." I think that's somewhat what RLM thinks. Like, we all look at Space Cop and think "Yeah, that was SUPPOSED to be bad. They're hack frauds, lol," but apparently they were trying to make something more on the side of MST3K (cheap sets, but still entertaining) and they just made a crappy movie, arguably worse than anything they reviewed on Best Of The Worst. Honestly, the impression I get of Mike is that he wanted to be the jobbing production guy, smoking a cigarette with the rest of the crew on a mid-tier movie about space wizards for Netflix, and he considers himself a failure because he's just a lame movie reviewer on TH-cam. Like, Mike and Jay seem to genuinely have some disdain for their TH-cam success because they both wanted it to lead to something else. Jay wanted to be a 'real' critic, and Mike wanted to work on 'real' movies.
22:20 this part got copyright claimed so ill fill in anyone curious for context what was said in this muted section. Jay was saying it would be funny if the Flash took one of the hotdogs then Jay said “not in the snyder cut” but was pleasantly surprised to see the Flash put the hotdog in his pocket
It's bizarre that part got copyright claimed after all this time, and just that part. I've seen this video at least 3 times already and it was never muted.
@@Tetragrammaton22 I’m guessing it’s because there’s a song running over that entire sequence. So it was probably claimed not by the movie studio, but the record label.
My theory is that Zack chose 4x3 aspect ratio to make sure that even if you glimpse a second from this movie, you know that's the Zack's version and not the Joss Whedon one. Absolutely no confusion allowed.
People already know that there is zero footage from the Josstice League in the Snyder cut...He did say that he would rather burn his entire film than use any of the footage shot by Whedon.
@@somethingsuperbland8829 if you’re serious then pet grooming is getting your pets coat cleaned and trimmed / nails filed down and other things like that.
Darkseid is going to erase all life in the universe. Also: When no one was looking, Lex Luthor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
Ironically, Diana granted that terrorist’s wish. He wanted to go back to the dark ages, of Gods wrath, etc. Only to get Straight up struck down by a God. Lmao love it
I liked this cut a lot, but the score was all over the place. The Amazon singing got annoying after like the third time it happened and then it played again maybe ten more times. And while I really love the MoS score, hearing it after hearing Diana’s theme so many times made it feel cheap even though it had a much more specific usage that should’ve worked.
@@tonyb7615 I'm a trek guy as well. Bsg is right up there tho.. An excellent series. If you haven't seen any then the very first episode "33" is worth it. One of the few shows that is good out of the gate.
Sigh, the streamer generation. I know you've probably grown up thinking that PewDiePie and Markiplier reactions are normal reactions that normal human beings have when surprised or happy, but they're not. They're exaggerated reactions, because streamers are actors. Believe it or not, most people don't scream at the TV and run around like a fucking idiot when they're invested in a movie. Edit: Upon rereading, I see now that my reaction was out of proportion with the original comment. My frustration still stands, but I'm sorry if I accused anyone of being younger than they are.
His point about superhero’s fighting each other makes sense. In the movies the hero’s are the only ones with a significant amount of character development and established abilities and rules, so even though it feels contrived, the fight scenes still feel good because you know who’s in them. The movie villains are always rushed, one-dimensional and are only there to serve the plot. In the comic books the contrivance feels much more forced and the villains usually have enough lore to make them feel fleshed-out
@@NameAvailable Thanos was basically the first and only villain to get around this problem, being extremely well developed and having the action centered around him made it feel more intense as he was sort of the main character for the two films ( less so in Endgame ). this is something I don't expect Darkside to do in the DC movies at all... if they ever get there of course.
Whaaaatt? Aren't these shots of Rich Evans a nod to the fact that Mike has done the editing for this video? Over the years these guys have taken turns to edit and subtly rag on each other using pointless, sometimes silly cuts when they take their turn to edit. They talked about it years ago in a video... gosh I wish i remember when...
I kinda wish Rich had mentioned Detective Chimp's excessive alcohol consumption in his description of the character. That habit makes Bobo very relatable, especially to the good people of Wisconsin.
I'm still waiting for the Dan Schneider cut where it's just two extra hours of younger teen versions of Lois Lane and Wonder Woman showing off their feet.
@@joshratliff2432 It went something like this, IIRC, Jay: "Is he going to save the hot dogs? That'd be too unfitting for The Snyder Cut." Mike: "That's in The Brian Singer Cut." And Jay laughed, as did I.
In the 2017 Justice League review, Mike said that at a 2 hour run time, the movie needed another hour and 45 minutes. Zack Snyder's JL is 3 hours and 44 minutes (without the added Joker/Martian Manhunter scenes). Pretty impressive if you ask me.
Joss Whedon's joke lines read by Mike Stoklasa really showcase the B-movie level of writing holy shit. I've heard better joke one-liners in Space Cop no kidding.
It's really sad that he's lost his touch. This is the guy who seemingly could do no wrong: Buffy, Angel, Dollhouse, Firefly, Dr. Horrible, Cabin in the Woods... All excellent. And then came Avengers and one wondered what happened. That movie is ok, but for Whedon it's really weak. And then the unbearably bad Avengers 2. True, looking at the serious Marvel movies, bad writing seems to be the norm, but still... I haven't seen the Snyder cut, I have the feeling what made me turn off JL the first time is not only Whedons doing. But since everybody is talking about Whedons bad writing and the stone that broke the axle was the excruciating technobabble when they're talking about that box... Well, here's to hoping.
Going back to some Avengers and iron man quip scenes is pretty embarrassing. I don't know if humor has changed that much in the previous decade but looking back at things like that and Borderlands just gives you second hand embarrassment
@@beageler my guess is that he got older and with movies that for the most part print money just by existing he realized he didn't have to try as hard. Pure speculation though.
@@Tetragrammaton22 i, for one, disagree with plinkett's take that the prequels are worse than the sequels. they are poorly executed, true, but on a comparative standpoint, are much more entertaining and better made than the sequels.
@@greggreg5189 near infinitely so, prequels introduced some concepts to starwars, gave a relatively reasonable backstory to characters and were not soulless. The sequels destroyed canon/lore contributed nothing new, beyond healing which they 'introduced' without regard for how it wasn't utilised prior. To say nothing of 'The Holdo Maneuver'.
I was a big Whedon fan back in the day. Not gonna lie, it kinda sucks to be confronted with such clear evidence that he's really not all that. Maybe the truth is that he used to do good work, but at some point in the last ten years he's just lost his touch.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer was a much better movie than a series. Firefly was really his best thing, mostly because the western dialogue cuts out most of the Whedonisms.
Its also formatted perfectly for human vision, which is an oval roughly 4:3 in shape. The 16:9 is a scam sold to you by the movie industry because when TVs became popular they wanted to differentiate themselves and changed the format.
It’s insane that the Snyder Cut has got Mike and Jay talking about the anti-life equation, mother boxes, and all sorts of other Jack Kirby stuff. I love it
@@king_julian327 with Flash doing some time travel shenanigans, and Keaton possible joining the solo flash movie, might as well go back to Adam West or George Reeves. Fuck it, nothing is canon and all DC movies are meaningless
"I survived the Snyder Cut and all I got was this lousy Snyder Cut." Also, I was expecting the joke to be just an hour of that flaming arrow flying through the air set to indistinct yodeling.
I dropped in the middle of my brother watching it so I wasn't super invested, but I was like "holy shit, these shots are too long." An hour could've been taken out with judicious editing just of scene footage
I still remember their review of a Transformers movie right on release(I think the 5th one?). It was just a black screen and an hours of the cgi transformation noises. I had the whole thing running in the background in case they put a gag in the middle. Last time I checked, they took that video down. I like to imagine it was a DMCA takedown because the noises are copyrighted.
I didn't expect much from the Joker scenes I heard they were adding, but god damn was it awful. Even putting aside how much of a douche canoe Leto is outside of his acting career, his epilogue scene was just so cringe-inducing. At least he's alright in Bladerunner.
Every time Wonder Woman appears it sound either like she is about to be possessed by Pazuzu, or a Euro-exploitation film from the 70s is about to begin.
Because without Martian Manhunter nudging her, she'd have never calmed Superman. Though I dont think that was exactly his goal because I dont think he'd have known. Though she's key for superman in the future as well. That was a big point of the nightmare future happening.
That scene made me think of the T1000. I wondered how long it was J.Connors foster mom, cooking dinner, and doing other mom stuff. What if JC never called? How long would T1000 stay and be a foster mom?
To be fair though, it would have been 15 minutes shorter but the flaming arrow stopped for coffee. Plus, there was a long line and the guy behind the counter got the flaming god arrow's name wrong.
@@ohnonotthegoldfish3559 Too bad the flaming god arrow never learned how to subtly excuse itself from situations like that. It all goes back to the flaming god arrow's upbringing.
@@FeverDreamlandTheater Being shot from the bow of a superhuman Amazonian does tend to have that effect on any flaming god arrow's psychological upbringing
@@Axterix13 I'm going to take this moment to agree that this is a great line and to also remind everyone that Batman would indeed have a Shakespearean, Adam-Westy personality if he's crazy enough to dress like a bat and galivant around fighting crime.
There was an idea, called the Half in the Worst: View Initiative. The idea was to bring together a group of of remarkable people to see if they could become something more. To see if they could work together when we needed them to, to fight the battles that we never could.
Im so happy this video exists, it’s just so perfect. The fact they mix a review and a best of the worst, the fact they actually liked it and gave it credit, the fact they discussed the differences between the cuts. It’s hilarious.
They did a great job on a larger platform to really show what works and doesn't work with this edit of an already fundamentally flawed film from the moment it was conceived with Man Of Steel and Batman V. Superman as the basis of this series.
@Code Turtle it's basically the same plot though with extra scenes. is it more fleshed out? Yes. Is it an unnecessary four hours? Yes definitely, is the story still terrible? Definitely.
Yeah even I didn't do that. I did watch the theatrical around the time the Snyder Cut was announced. It was even worse than I remember, and I enjoyed the Snyder Cut SO MUCH MORE because of it. -
I don't care It's all degrees of incompetent filmmaking Snyder cut still looks miles poorer than any raimi superhero flick Yes, even the studio-interfered spider-man 3, dammit
We gotta release the Rich Evans cut, where every time Wonder Woman shows up instead of that "ancient lamentation" leitmotif it plays Rich Evans' laugh.
I really like the Snyder cut.. but I couldn't stand that lamentation shit soundtrack..it was played so many times in the movie.. almost all the scene where WW was there.. it annoyed the fuck outta me...they should have gone with the a remix of the Hans Zimmer's theme.. it would have flowed a little better...
I'm talking about Batman's ridiculous dialouge. I'm saying the line "We tend to act like the doomsday clock has a snooze button" is dumb line for any character to speak.
The DCEU really makes you appreciate how good the Timmverse/DCAU was, where even silly characters like Gorilla Grodd or Titania are engaging and can be taken completely seriously. You contrast how the Martian Manhunter just kind of shows up in this movie with how they took the time to flesh out his family and the history of the Martian civilization in Justice League (2003), and it's kind of a joke. These characters can be great and have been great in other renditions of the DC Universe; you just gotta take the time to set them up and let the characters breathe.
I've been saying for years that they should just give the DCAU writers full creative control and let them produce feature-length films (animated or otherwise). Even the non-Timmverse direct-to-DVD entries are much better than anything Snyder has put out lately.
And the really impressive thing is that almost nothing in the DCAU was really planned to connect with each other. They just made great shows and then next show built on those strong foundations. Even within shows, they never actually knew how long the show would last. Justice League pretty much had 3 series finales because they kept thinking the show would end. They didn't know that Justice League was going to get renewed after the second season so they decided to go out with a bang with the Thanagarian invasion of earth. Then they thought Justice League Unlimited was going to end after it's second season so they resolved the Cadmus arc and saved a special episode for "Epilogue" which was supposed to wrap up the whole DCAU. Then they got renewed again and still managed to go out huge with Darkseid invading earth and all the heroes and villains having to team up to beat him.
I kinda hope this movie sets the precedent in Hollywood that audiences are willing to watch longer movies. It’d be pretty neat to see a return to the days of movie intermissions.
In Greece movies over two hours have intermission it's actually really nice you get to go the bathroom, get popcorn, refill your drink it's really nice
@@athenajaxon2397 That's great! More theaters should do that but I understand that if you have intermissions then you'd have one screening less per day.
To answer your question, I believe that Joss Whedon needed to contribute at least 51% of the scenes to this film in order to be given credit for directing. It's just like what happened with Richard Donner and Richard Lester with "Superman II."
Surprised they didn’t talk about Aquaman in the theatrical release drinking whiskey to the white stripes and swimming straight to Atlantis to fight Steppenwolf while under the influence. That was bizarre
I have a crippling condition. I am physically unable to look at Henry Cavill's face without seeing his awful CGI'ed upper lip. Even when its not there, I see it. Plz send help.
Hot take : because CGi artist did actually such a good job removing them so that some people were so involved on noticing them that they now see it everywhere because brain saved that pattern.
So technically, I think that Snyder said "I need to take some time off to deal with a family tragedy" and the studio was regretting having him as a director anyhow. So they gave him an ultimatum that if he left they were going to do it without him, and he was like "fuck you, but I have to go". They brought in Whedon, who was thinking of a way to get another crack at Avengers.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate Henry Cavill. While the rest of the cast looked bored and annoyed delivering the Whedon lines, Henry was fully vested and giving it everything he had. Sure it was still terrible, but at least he was trying.
I really appreciated that Joss Whedon made his Superman way more likable, actually trying to protect people and doing it with all the confidence only he can have, where as in the Snyder Cut he’s a violent psychopath that brutally tortures Steppenwolf before killing him.
Kinda impressed nobody mentioned the weird snyder scene where aquaman angrily walks into the ocean, throws his sweater off and jumps in the water. And suddenly a group of women start singing him a goodbye song, while one picks up his sweater and starts taking a deep sniff out of it in front of everyone else. And Batman just watches this whole thing like: "..bruh, what?"
I found it artful and it showed how the villagers there saw him as a God. He doesn’t ask for them to worship or sing for him or anything. But these villagers are a spiritual and religious people and praise him. I really like the scene.
Only trouble is, every shot of the Snyder films I've seen are too dark and murky to see anything. It's even in the posters, I can't make the characters out on that. I want Detective Chimp film.
Yeah, I hate the color correcting in Snyder’s fucking movies! Why is everything so bland and murky and shadowy and washed out and hazy and muted and shit???
Mike: "Rich, meanwhile someone is getting mugged in Gotham" 30:45 *Rich proceeds to laugh, as if he's queuing exactly what the Joker would do knowing Batman isn't there* Man, Rich has a far better Joker laugh than Jared Leto's.
Exactly. People need to understand that batman isn't supposed to fight the big bad guy, he does everything else. Without Batmans support the big supers wouldn't be able to fight the bad guy
@@tastycookiechip Batman is the guy who’s outsmarted Darkseid himself in the past, though. Kinda feel like an experienced Batman would be able to contribute a hell of a lot more than being a glorified bouncer.
Joss Whedon's cut plays like an alternate universe where human language is _almost_ semantically identical, but people only talk through one another rather than to them.
@@WampaReacts Also Snyder: WW: "You should get dressed" Cyborg: "I'm always dressed!" lol both versions have some abominable dialogue, and both version stink. This version just stinks a little less.
@@orihalchon Because 4:3 is how theatrical movies are actually cut. All you have to do is change your ratio on your TV to wide screen and it's perfect.
I wish they’d used the scene from justice league: war that shows what parademons actually are. That makes them more interesting than what most people assume is another generic cgi army.
Man I wish they would just redo this whole justice league nonsense. This JL film has some, not all, great qualities and great potential but overall it’s just not-good and just shy of being bad. Like, how do they have a JL movie without green lantern or a more involved Martian manhunter.
What is this, only one hour of material? Release the Evans cut.
In the Evans cut, Mike hangs dong in the intro. Full shaft bro
Hahahahaha! That is fucking classic.
i was expecting at least 8 hrs
High Quality Rich Cam was my favorite part
@@ComicPi I want the entire movie as seen from the high quality Rich cam
The RLM cast’s areas of expertise:
Mike - Script and story structure
Jay - aspect ratio and technical aspects of film making
Rich - Gorillas
And a shit ton of star trek knowledge
Rich is there for moral support...
@@greatclubsandwich5612 and sex appeal
Rich is common sense in its purest form and an ideas man
I know you joke and it is funny when you put it that way, but Rich's contributions are actually source material more than anything else
Mike was in such a state of shock over finding an enjoyable Zack Snyder DC film that he forgot all the Star Trek references he wanted to bring up.
This reminds me of the episode where Quark was upset that his mother started wearing clothes. Take off your metaphorical clothes, Mike.
This reminds me of that episode of Star Trek The Next Generation...
He was too busy studying his multi-page, stapled, single-spaced 12 pt font notes
@@Ottophil What? They LOVE TNG.
@@Luka1180 dude, Mike HATES TNG. He absolutely despises it. Where tf have you been? 🤔
I can't believe these hack frauds missed the opportunity to film this entire review in 4:3 to preserve Zack Snyder's original vision.
How are Red Letter Media hack frauds? Just wondering
@@thekiller7994 "Hack fraud" is just a running joke in the RLM fanbase. I think it started because Plinkett calls George Lucas a "hack fraud conman" in one of the Star Wars Reviews. Either that or it started as a joke about the fans who would accuse RLM of being hacks and frauds for having the wrong opinions on a movie. Either way, it just pops up now and again.
@@sweetnerevarr4169 It might be like a Primus situation where he asked the fans to say "Primus sucks!" and it became this fun gag.
Later on, when Tim Alexander left the band, he said something like "Yeah... Tim was the MVP of the band. We were good at what we did, but our 'songs' didn't have much of a structure and we had a hard time keeping time. Tim made the songs sound more dynamic and his tight playing made us sound tighter than we really were. I didn't think we were a good band without Tim."
I think that's somewhat what RLM thinks. Like, we all look at Space Cop and think "Yeah, that was SUPPOSED to be bad. They're hack frauds, lol," but apparently they were trying to make something more on the side of MST3K (cheap sets, but still entertaining) and they just made a crappy movie, arguably worse than anything they reviewed on Best Of The Worst.
Honestly, the impression I get of Mike is that he wanted to be the jobbing production guy, smoking a cigarette with the rest of the crew on a mid-tier movie about space wizards for Netflix, and he considers himself a failure because he's just a lame movie reviewer on TH-cam. Like, Mike and Jay seem to genuinely have some disdain for their TH-cam success because they both wanted it to lead to something else. Jay wanted to be a 'real' critic, and Mike wanted to work on 'real' movies.
Just crop it.
The way Zack intended.
@sweetnerevarr4169 that's hilarious man 😂
Imagine being in a dark theater and hearing Rich's laugh somewhere in the shadows.
Don't tell the world my secret fantasy...
His laugh would make me start laughing in the theater.
I would burst into laughter and wait at the end of the movie to find if he is there.
This comment has me howling 🤣
His laugh cuts through studios, producers and directors ..like a hot knife through butter
It looks like this film added 3 years to Rich Evans' lifespan. He has that youthful, 50 year old, vigor.
Nah, it's the CGI that was added in the Bauman cut
oh awesome! that means we get like what, 7 more years out of him?
Hahahaha
Might have also been all that juicy Shaq meat Rich has been eating.
haha classic joke, mock rich evans appearance. funny, original, classic
I like how they added an additional camera focused on Rich Evans. They know exactly what the audience wants
Rich Evans is the key to all this if we get Rich Evans working. Cause he's a funnier character than we've ever had
U gotta give the ppl what they want
I’m glad I didn’t need to scroll far to find someone else appreciating this. I wish they’d bring it back going forward.
Um what, they've done this before
I am all fucking in for this.
*Give me what I want*
22:20 this part got copyright claimed so ill fill in anyone curious for context what was said in this muted section. Jay was saying it would be funny if the Flash took one of the hotdogs then Jay said “not in the snyder cut” but was pleasantly surprised to see the Flash put the hotdog in his pocket
I think Mike's Bryan Singer joke was also in there :P
It's bizarre that part got copyright claimed after all this time, and just that part. I've seen this video at least 3 times already and it was never muted.
@@Tetragrammaton22 I’m guessing it’s because there’s a song running over that entire sequence. So it was probably claimed not by the movie studio, but the record label.
Remember when we didn't erase history because greed?
Thanks, thought I imagined Jay saying that
Martha to Lois: “I got the results of the test back. I definitely have breast cancer.” end scene
Got damn superman.
"Don't worry about it. Everything will be fine."
ah ah ah what a story Martha!
"Oh hai, Clark!"
And then plot twist : Lois was actually Martian Manhunter at that moment, and he flies away
I love that now they give Rich Evans his own close up camera angle that's better framed and lit than anything in the rest of the episode.
They should charge extra to watch it.
How benevolent, that they allow we mere mortals to witness Rich in his full glory.
Gotta make sure to show off the best assets in your production.
Legit 4k or higher rich Evans is amazing
What can you do, sex sells.
My theory is that Zack chose 4x3 aspect ratio to make sure that even if you glimpse a second from this movie, you know that's the Zack's version and not the Joss Whedon one. Absolutely no confusion allowed.
People already know that there is zero footage from the Josstice League in the Snyder cut...He did say that he would rather burn his entire film than use any of the footage shot by Whedon.
Can't blame him. The theatrical cut is easily one of the worst blockbusters ever made.
He has stated that he shot the film in 4:3 for IMAX as he prefers a taller image . Just so happen to have the added bonus of looking different.
the complete frame that was shot was a tall square, the widescreen version is zoomed in
@@botero01 cropped to be exact
17:58 I love that mike heard “kitten grooming” and interpreted it as kittens becoming grooms and having cat weddings
Always sunny in philadelphia logic
What is it
@@somethingsuperbland8829 if you’re serious then pet grooming is getting your pets coat cleaned and trimmed / nails filed down and other things like that.
@@RedEyeBlueEye oh I feel dumb for not remembering that lol. Thanks it totally slipped my mind
@@somethingsuperbland8829 no problem, I forget much more important things all the time
Darkseid is going to erase all life in the universe.
Also: When no one was looking, Lex Luthor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
underrated comment right there!
I love that this amazing reference lives on!
I was not expecting this reference but I'm you did it.
Yeah thats the best comment this videos gonna get
They’ll only show that on Snyder’s super-duper cut. Time for the hashtag campaign on everything.
The worst thing about Wonder Woman blowing up the listed building is that she works in conservation.
Ironically, Diana granted that terrorist’s wish. He wanted to go back to the dark ages, of Gods wrath, etc. Only to get Straight up struck down by a God. Lmao love it
@The Mad Capper Wasnt he salty for losing to the amazonians in the past, so he just singles her out, because she's amazonian?
@The Mad Capper he views her as a more worthy challenge I suppose
@The Mad Capper In the "ancient war" scene where the motherboxes originally got left on earth, yeah.
@@monetizedyay6827 Before Supes showed up, she was kinda the only one who could go head to head with him.
Rich Evans should teach Jared Leto how to laugh!
You can tell that either Zack Snyder or Jared Leto is trying to imitate Heath Ledger's laugh, and it's really terrible lol
One cannot teach what must be inherited. From the gods.
30:45 is a perfect Joker laugh
@@drdeadbeat1604 In a perfect world, he'd be the first and only choice.
Rich Evans should teach Jared Leto How To ACT.
*Wonder Woman’s toe enters the frame*
AMAZONIAN WOMEN SINGING INTENSIFIES
I liked this cut a lot, but the score was all over the place. The Amazon singing got annoying after like the third time it happened and then it played again maybe ten more times. And while I really love the MoS score, hearing it after hearing Diana’s theme so many times made it feel cheap even though it had a much more specific usage that should’ve worked.
Why did she have to sing imagine to defeat darkseid?
Just a bad cover of the intro song from BSG tbh.
@@tonyb7615 I'm a trek guy as well. Bsg is right up there tho.. An excellent series. If you haven't seen any then the very first episode "33" is worth it. One of the few shows that is good out of the gate.
Ooooooahhhhhoooiaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaahhhhh
I'm waiting for the Leo Fong cut, where it's four hours of Batman trying to start the Batmobile.
That’s wonderful.
Well, we kinda had a Low Blow moment when Darkseid crushed SteppenWolf cake head.
Please tell me that as the credits roll there's no music just the noise of engine struggling
... in slow motion with Hallelujah playing on infinity !!!
If they dubbed Rich's laugh over Jared Letto's joker you instantly make the cut better, this is a fact.
Dub it with “I’m the jokah baby”
100% rich has the best Joker laugh ive heard
Hahaha hahaha hahahahahaha........
Lol I'm driving and told my mother this guy could be the joker she agreed gg mom
@The Mad Capper Welcome to the pit!
"It was the most fun part of the movie" cuts to all 3 of them depressed on a couch
Sigh, the streamer generation. I know you've probably grown up thinking that PewDiePie and Markiplier reactions are normal reactions that normal human beings have when surprised or happy, but they're not. They're exaggerated reactions, because streamers are actors. Believe it or not, most people don't scream at the TV and run around like a fucking idiot when they're invested in a movie.
Edit: Upon rereading, I see now that my reaction was out of proportion with the original comment. My frustration still stands, but I'm sorry if I accused anyone of being younger than they are.
@@Mazra42 isajoke
@@Mazra42 calm down buddy
@@Mazra42 You forgot to take your medication again, Mr. Plinkett. You know how you get without it, and so does that judge in Tijuana.
@@abswing94 isnotfunny
Edit: But you're right. I may have had some pent-up anger that accidentally spilled out. Sorry about that.
I'm overjoyed at the mental image of Christopher Nolan doing his best Werner Herzog impression and telling Zack Snyder, "You must never watch this."
That's an extremely obscure reference, and I very much appreciate it.
Thank you for making my day. Hahaha
Christopher Nolan watching it on his phone with headphones and puts his head in his hands
@@johnnycoolguy9554 it’s not that obscure
You think you can experience a film like this on your phone? Get real!
"I have notoriously bad taste in movies-"
So Mike's finally admitting it.
"-sometimes"
Theeere's the denial.
😆
We're talking about the man who selected Vampire Assassin as Best of the Worst.
His point about superhero’s fighting each other makes sense. In the movies the hero’s are the only ones with a significant amount of character development and established abilities and rules, so even though it feels contrived, the fight scenes still feel good because you know who’s in them. The movie villains are always rushed, one-dimensional and are only there to serve the plot. In the comic books the contrivance feels much more forced and the villains usually have enough lore to make them feel fleshed-out
I'm still mad about Overlord, completely okay film but God how much Mike overhyped it
@@NameAvailable Thanos was basically the first and only villain to get around this problem, being extremely well developed and having the action centered around him made it feel more intense as he was sort of the main character for the two films ( less so in Endgame ).
this is something I don't expect Darkside to do in the DC movies at all... if they ever get there of course.
The hilariousness of the added “reaction” shots of Rich Evans multiple times was not lost on me.
Yeah but it was missing the slow motion, anachronisitc music overlay and lasting 3 unnecessary minutes...
Whaaaatt? Aren't these shots of Rich Evans a nod to the fact that Mike has done the editing for this video? Over the years these guys have taken turns to edit and subtly rag on each other using pointless, sometimes silly cuts when they take their turn to edit. They talked about it years ago in a video... gosh I wish i remember when...
Mike: "Rich, meanwhile someone is getting robbed in gotham"
Rich: *Laughs like the Joker*
Rich does a better Joker laugh than alot of the actors who've played the Joker.
Anyone who has watched the ending of snyder cut knows that Rich had a better joker laugh than jared letto haha
I kinda wish Rich had mentioned Detective Chimp's excessive alcohol consumption in his description of the character. That habit makes Bobo very relatable, especially to the good people of Wisconsin.
I'm still waiting for the Dan Schneider cut where it's just two extra hours of younger teen versions of Lois Lane and Wonder Woman showing off their feet.
And then the final penultimate magnificent Rob Schneider cut
Uf
Name the actresses 👀
I like this meme
Can of coke to you my friend
Don't you mean the Quintin Tarantino cut
“It’s really unfortunate when you give all your exposition to Gal Gadot” is the only piece of film commentary I’ll ever need to hear
"KAL-EL NO!"
Robotic Alexa Voice
Whew, her accent is hot, but terrible for exposition. And that woman wailing through her action scenes got old reeeaaal fast...
God, she's so bad.
Hot, but very bad at acting.
She’s fucking terrible ... and not just her “acting”
I want a new series where Rich explains the most outlandish characters in The DC universe
And a series on Mike explaining obscure Star Trek episodes and Jay sharing his hipster film knowledge
@@lorddevilfish5868 Jay talking about Tokyo Gore Police would be amazing.
Ah man, Mike's joke about the Bryan Singer Cut was silenced when they had to remove the copyrighted audio in the hot dog scene. I liked that joke :(
What'd he say?
@@joshratliff2432 It went something like this, IIRC,
Jay: "Is he going to save the hot dogs? That'd be too unfitting for The Snyder Cut."
Mike: "That's in The Brian Singer Cut."
And Jay laughed, as did I.
@@3DGECASE it was a solid joke
thanks for solving this
The addition of the extremely well lit, high quality Rich Evans laugh cam is fantastic
It broke new ground!
Everyone should have a rich Evan’s cam installed in their homes
I want the full video!
@@encephalltl5931 RELEASETHEEVANSCUT
Weirdly romantic?
In the 2017 Justice League review, Mike said that at a 2 hour run time, the movie needed another hour and 45 minutes. Zack Snyder's JL is 3 hours and 44 minutes (without the added Joker/Martian Manhunter scenes). Pretty impressive if you ask me.
Joss Whedon's joke lines read by Mike Stoklasa really showcase the B-movie level of writing holy shit. I've heard better joke one-liners in Space Cop no kidding.
I don't remember any one liners in Space Cop. Just Holden me Dickie.
It's really sad that he's lost his touch. This is the guy who seemingly could do no wrong: Buffy, Angel, Dollhouse, Firefly, Dr. Horrible, Cabin in the Woods... All excellent. And then came Avengers and one wondered what happened. That movie is ok, but for Whedon it's really weak. And then the unbearably bad Avengers 2. True, looking at the serious Marvel movies, bad writing seems to be the norm, but still...
I haven't seen the Snyder cut, I have the feeling what made me turn off JL the first time is not only Whedons doing. But since everybody is talking about Whedons bad writing and the stone that broke the axle was the excruciating technobabble when they're talking about that box... Well, here's to hoping.
Going back to some Avengers and iron man quip scenes is pretty embarrassing. I don't know if humor has changed that much in the previous decade but looking back at things like that and Borderlands just gives you second hand embarrassment
@@HkFinn83 I have the feeling that your problem is making assumptions without watching something
@@beageler my guess is that he got older and with movies that for the most part print money just by existing he realized he didn't have to try as hard. Pure speculation though.
"I have notoriously bad taste in movies sometimes" -Mike Stoklasa, movie critic
I understand that. I often enjoy movies that are objectively bad and dislike movies that are objectively good.
He recommended that Hercules movie, never let him live that down
It’s good to be self aware. Lol Mike has liked some absolute turds over the years.
Never Forget Vampire Assassin. He is the devils son.
@@Tetragrammaton22 i, for one, disagree with plinkett's take that the prequels are worse than the sequels. they are poorly executed, true, but on a comparative standpoint, are much more entertaining and better made than the sequels.
@@greggreg5189 near infinitely so, prequels introduced some concepts to starwars, gave a relatively reasonable backstory to characters and were not soulless.
The sequels destroyed canon/lore contributed nothing new, beyond healing which they 'introduced' without regard for how it wasn't utilised prior. To say nothing of 'The Holdo Maneuver'.
The part where Rich discusses comic book apes is pure gold. If it wasn't for the visual accompaniment I would've thought he was just making it all up.
I was totally expecting Monsieur Mallah since he mentioned Doom Patrol
I was lmao 🤣🤣
“why would you ever... write dialogue like that... for batman” killed me
Because they forgot that Batman and Robin was a thing.
I love batman and Robin
What is the one good one liner?
@@DollyRanch "I'm Batman"
I’M THE GODDAMN BATMAN
For Joss Whedon, it seems like every group of characters has to be some version of Buffy, Xander and Willow.
I was a big Whedon fan back in the day. Not gonna lie, it kinda sucks to be confronted with such clear evidence that he's really not all that. Maybe the truth is that he used to do good work, but at some point in the last ten years he's just lost his touch.
@Sam Paget clean yourself up!
@Andrew Sossaman I do. @Killah Mate. Phrasing.
P.S: Don’t actually change your comment, just because it made me laugh so hard.
@@KillahMate go re-watch the first Avengers film. It is really rough (even compared to Ultron), despite my memory of it being quite good.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer was a much better movie than a series. Firefly was really his best thing, mostly because the western dialogue cuts out most of the Whedonisms.
Just realized it's formatted perfectly to fit on an Apple Watch! The way it's meant to be seen 🕵🏼♂️
Don't tell David Lynch
Its also formatted perfectly for human vision, which is an oval roughly 4:3 in shape. The 16:9 is a scam sold to you by the movie industry because when TVs became popular they wanted to differentiate themselves and changed the format.
@@StrazdasLT plus, when you really inspect someone, you look at them vertically, head to toe. Widescreen = roll of toilet paper.
HAW YA DOIN
YA DOIN GOOD
The ending with Joker, and angry Superman, and a dead Lois sounds like they are trying to do an Injustice thing.
Lois is even pregnant. It’s totally an injustice thing. Cept joker ain’t dead
Yet
It was already set up in BVS
Supposedly its for the sequel if it ever happens
Yeah this is probably the answer Mike wanted when he asked if there's a popular story where superman is evil
“I have notoriously bad taste in movies” is one of my favorite Mike quotes now
"I judge movies on whether I'm miserable or not." - Mike Stoklasa (Theatrical Justice League HITB)
He liked The Fanatic
I appreciate that RLM and Mike took the time to compare the two cuts scene-for-scene
As confusing as their format was I appreciated it as well.
It’s insane that the Snyder Cut has got Mike and Jay talking about the anti-life equation, mother boxes, and all sorts of other Jack Kirby stuff. I love it
Man, poor Mike. He watched the original JL and then watched this. That's true blue hero stuff.
I did that as well and man, what a goddamn torture
He's not the hero we deserve, but the one we need right now.
True sadists watch the BvS extended cut first
@@brandonkylemarks And Man of Steel. I'm that guy.
@@king_julian327 with Flash doing some time travel shenanigans, and Keaton possible joining the solo flash movie, might as well go back to Adam West or George Reeves. Fuck it, nothing is canon and all DC movies are meaningless
Really wish this had been presented in 4:3 to preserve Mr. Plinkett’s artistic vision
"I survived the Snyder Cut and all I got was this lousy Snyder Cut."
Also, I was expecting the joke to be just an hour of that flaming arrow flying through the air set to indistinct yodeling.
I dropped in the middle of my brother watching it so I wasn't super invested, but I was like "holy shit, these shots are too long." An hour could've been taken out with judicious editing just of scene footage
I was expecting the flaming arrow to land on their red couch
I still remember their review of a Transformers movie right on release(I think the 5th one?). It was just a black screen and an hours of the cgi transformation noises. I had the whole thing running in the background in case they put a gag in the middle.
Last time I checked, they took that video down. I like to imagine it was a DMCA takedown because the noises are copyrighted.
@@lagg1e IIRC it was because of no-funs (or perhaps youtube bot algorithms) taking down troll vids.
Cutting out all the Zach Snyder slow motion bits would shave at least an hour off this thing.
I think it's like 20 minutes btw
I mean slo mo was mostly used for flash in the movie
A guy did it, and cutting all slowmos will cut about 15 or 20 mins in total, the video its somewhere in youtube
@@Sahil-hp3fz And the sesame seed
That Paul Feig tweet was scarier than The Exorcist.
The excorsit ist fictional
@@ErenTheWarcriminal ausgezeichnet
The Flaming Arrow of Gondor in Snyder Cut was on screen longer than Cyborg was in Josstice League.
Wonder Woman's [ancient lamentation music] had more screen time than cyborg
Cyborg actually has NO BUSINESS in a Justice League movie.
@@michaeldavis2001 because...?
@@nightofhalo it's been 4 days,I don't think we will ever get an answer
@@michaeldavis2001 u have no business to comment on a dc movie but here we are so...
Joker: how many can die in your arms before you grow numb to death?
Mike: ...(Sneeze)
Yeah, joker with a fake Gaelic accent is enough to induce allergies into anyone
To be fair to Mike I feel like a lot of people are also allergic to Jared Leto at this point
My gawd, Jared Leto is terrible
⚰😂
I didn't expect much from the Joker scenes I heard they were adding, but god damn was it awful. Even putting aside how much of a douche canoe Leto is outside of his acting career, his epilogue scene was just so cringe-inducing. At least he's alright in Bladerunner.
Every time Wonder Woman appears it sound either like she is about to be possessed by Pazuzu, or a Euro-exploitation film from the 70s is about to begin.
I've heard of Blaxploitation and Bruceploitation
What is Euro-plotation focused around?
Wonder Woman's weird theme should blast every time the camera cuts back to Rich Evans
That chanting music drove me insane... annoying as hell
It was cool sometimes but annoying at times cause how much it was played during her scenes.
@@alexrivera633 and not just her scenes. Any Amazon scene.
And have "Oh my gooooood" as added lyrics for it's whole duration
That woman shouting throughout the movie was annoying as hell. It was so cheesy.
Ma Kent turning into Martian Manhunter after a very touching scene was like "What??, Why??" Especially, in hindsight.
Because without Martian Manhunter nudging her, she'd have never calmed Superman. Though I dont think that was exactly his goal because I dont think he'd have known. Though she's key for superman in the future as well. That was a big point of the nightmare future happening.
That scene made me think of the T1000. I wondered how long it was J.Connors foster mom, cooking dinner, and doing other mom stuff. What if JC never called? How long would T1000 stay and be a foster mom?
@@rus6685 but why couldn’t it have just been Martha that comforted Lois and “nudged her to calm Superman”? Why did it need to be MM?
@Cyrus McWind Ah Jean, the French Manhunter a lesser known DC character.
At the time you let it go because you expect him to be important later on...
The actual Snyder cut is four hours of that flaming god arrow making its way downtown
To be fair though, it would have been 15 minutes shorter but the flaming arrow stopped for coffee. Plus, there was a long line and the guy behind the counter got the flaming god arrow's name wrong.
@@FeverDreamlandTheater And then an acquaintance from its uni days recognised the flaming god arrow and engaged it in awkwardly protracted small talk
@@ohnonotthegoldfish3559 Too bad the flaming god arrow never learned how to subtly excuse itself from situations like that. It all goes back to the flaming god arrow's upbringing.
@@FeverDreamlandTheater Being shot from the bow of a superhuman Amazonian does tend to have that effect on any flaming god arrow's psychological upbringing
@@fecxorfecxor768 I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought this bwahaha
22:19 I guess they had to mute the audio to avoid copyright but now the Bryan Singer joke is muted too
"That'll be in the Bryan Singer cut" underrated jab
Some say below the belt jab
Just as Singer likes ‘em.
I was watching this in a hospital lobby and laughed out loud like a crazy person at that joke.
The main reason to watch these blockbusters is so I can watch your review of it. Slainté! 🍻
Can of coke to you guys!
Happy days are here again!
Jay! ... what bar is Steppenwolf?
I watch new movies knowing it’ll be explained to me by them later ha
I don't watch this shit because of them. Cause I don't have to.
“Batman had ONE good one-liner”
“Hiya Freeze, I’m Batman”
Nah it’s gotta be “I’m not wearing hockey pads”
@@mrmongoose7630 That's what I figured. His enemies always get great ones. "you took my advice about theatrics...a bit literally!"
“I’ll get drive through”
"Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb."
@@Axterix13 I'm going to take this moment to agree that this is a great line and to also remind everyone that Batman would indeed have a Shakespearean, Adam-Westy personality if he's crazy enough to dress like a bat and galivant around fighting crime.
40:14 I love how they immediately go to Rich as their comic-book expert.
Half in The Worst: View, the most ambitious crossover in cinematic history
It's about family, and that's what's so powerful about it.
There was an idea, called the Half in the Worst: View Initiative. The idea was to bring together a group of of remarkable people to see if they could become something more. To see if they could work together when we needed them to, to fight the battles that we never could.
Hey, let's not forget _Parole Force Violators; Even_ now.
No ones ever really gone......
Im so happy this video exists, it’s just so perfect. The fact they mix a review and a best of the worst, the fact they actually liked it and gave it credit, the fact they discussed the differences between the cuts. It’s hilarious.
Literally anyone can figure out the differences between the cuts
@@gbrogo7139 Ik but them explaining the differences and pointing out the flaws are hilarious
They did a great job on a larger platform to really show what works and doesn't work with this edit of an already fundamentally flawed film from the moment it was conceived with Man Of Steel and Batman V. Superman as the basis of this series.
I clapped
@Code Turtle it's basically the same plot though with extra scenes. is it more fleshed out? Yes. Is it an unnecessary four hours? Yes definitely, is the story still terrible? Definitely.
Did anyone else notice how they used an extremely nice camera just for closeup shots of Rich watching the movie
Yes.
We all noticed.
How couldn't we?
It's Rich Evans we're talking about here.
He deserves it.
Rich Evans has the face of an angel and a laugh that makes joy soar. They're gonna use their best camera, trust me.
I hate comments like this. Yes, we watched the video. The fuck is your point?
I can only imagine Mike's joy while editing that "Rich Evans is wrong" segment
They should just release all the footage they shot of both cuts online and say "Edit it yourselves."
The best part of superhero films is seeing Redlettermedia do a video on it
Yeah I have no interest in superhero movies themselves but I'm always up for a RLM review of them
And pitch meetings
Its the only way i can consume the crap!
Especially DC movies
Like with so many things, I don't even participate any more. I just watch my favourite internet people talk about them.
"That would be in the Bryan Singer cut."
Stop. He's already dead.
I love how they keep saying "Miles Dyson" as if it were the actual name of the character.
It is amazing that he's kinda become typecast as "guy who fucks up making cyborgs" lol
Miles Moralis
That’s the greatness of Terminator 2. Even a side characters name that had just a few minutes of screen time is remembered decades later.
I mean, Miles Dyson did have a son…
I love how they spent so much time making sure the Rich Evans Cam was the most high quality thing they've ever shot
Can we give Mike a round of applause for sitting through the theatrical version just before watching the Snyder Cut?
The man is a machine
@Blake McCartney The man is a film trash receptacle.
Yeah even I didn't do that. I did watch the theatrical around the time the Snyder Cut was announced. It was even worse than I remember, and I enjoyed the Snyder Cut SO MUCH MORE because of it. -
@@phexus endless trash receptacle
That's 6 hours of Justice League. No ordinary man could bear such blunt force.
RLM liking a 4 hour DC snyder film... "THE WORLD IS CHANGING."
I don't care
It's all degrees of incompetent filmmaking
Snyder cut still looks miles poorer than any raimi superhero flick
Yes, even the studio-interfered spider-man 3, dammit
"WE NEED KONG"
"This is my crime scene now."
It's shocking to me that no studio has just paid these guys truckloads of money to just heckle and shut down projects internally.
@@cactusmalone Is Zack Snyder your mom or something?
Rich saying "OH MY GAAAAAAAHHHHD" when Superman lasers off Steppenwulf's horn is too funny
I enjoyed it, but couldn't help but giggle. It was just so childishly shot.
...? how was that scene childishly
@@Frank-zw7gn yeah what? Dude literally got mutilated and it's "childish"?
@@xrstevenson Childish might be the wrong word. Ridiculously, jarringly violent (which can be childish in its own way) is more accurate.
@@xrstevenson not 5 year old childish, more like 13 year old childish.
We gotta release the Rich Evans cut, where every time Wonder Woman shows up instead of that "ancient lamentation" leitmotif it plays Rich Evans' laugh.
I’ll finally pay for RLM+ for this.
I really like the Snyder cut.. but I couldn't stand that lamentation shit soundtrack..it was played so many times in the movie.. almost all the scene where WW was there.. it annoyed the fuck outta me...they should have gone with the a remix of the Hans Zimmer's theme.. it would have flowed a little better...
@@SK008 yes it was such a fucking weird thing.
Her making noodles: eeeehhhheeeeeahhhh
Her takibg a dump: EEEEHHHHEEEEEAAAHHHHHH
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 now I kind of want to see those scenes.. release the Trazyn cut😂
A Detective Chimp series is now my anti-life equation. I won't rest until I have it.
He would be a pretty dope character for Doom Patrol.
Only Green Lantern Math Equation film can truly give a life
@@AlanJ1993 Doom Patrol already has Monsieur Mallah.
The Howard The Duck movie will save the Marvel universe
Lancelot Link Secret Chimp
"Why would you write dialogue like that for Batman?"
Why would you write dialouge like that for anyone?
What dialogue?
@@reddevilsunited7780 These comments are, believe it or not, attached to a video. Perhaps it contains the answers you seek.
@@Moongrum158 I presume u mean specific dialogue - I’m not watching a video to find out the specific dialogue - u don’t want to say - fine
Bruh give him a break it’s a one hour video. XD
I'm talking about Batman's ridiculous dialouge. I'm saying the line "We tend to act like the doomsday clock has a snooze button" is dumb line for any character to speak.
Wonder Woman does anything -> **singing intensifies**
That was obnoxious by the end.
Haaaaaaaauuuaaaaahahahahahaahaaaaa
Snyder loves slow motion so much, that even the fastest character in the movie runs in slo-mo...
That's so weird to me. Every super fast person gets depicted in slow motion. Even The Boys ended up doing that, but thankfully only in one scene.
@@Horatio787 because if you don’t you’ll get the shitty cw flash run effect
@@roycastanon5754 True, but I love how The Boys depicts super speed as< "What?" .005 seconds ago the fast character did a half hour of work.
@@roycastanon5754 Why can't they just do what DBZ does and make super speed look like they're teleporting?
Exactly! I know, it's his style, but I hate it
Bad guy: *beheaded and punched through a portal back to the feet of his master*
Rich Evans: *laughing hysterically*
That’s priceless.
You forgot impaled*
"No Optimus!"
"We all had a job"
"I watched Doom Patrol!"
Chad rich evans strikes again
Damn and we get a breakdown of Detective Chimp? Rich is just breaking the chad scale
I appreciate that they have a dedicated Rich Evans cam. They need to have one for all their shows.
The DCEU really makes you appreciate how good the Timmverse/DCAU was, where even silly characters like Gorilla Grodd or Titania are engaging and can be taken completely seriously. You contrast how the Martian Manhunter just kind of shows up in this movie with how they took the time to flesh out his family and the history of the Martian civilization in Justice League (2003), and it's kind of a joke. These characters can be great and have been great in other renditions of the DC Universe; you just gotta take the time to set them up and let the characters breathe.
I've been saying for years that they should just give the DCAU writers full creative control and let them produce feature-length films (animated or otherwise). Even the non-Timmverse direct-to-DVD entries are much better than anything Snyder has put out lately.
And the really impressive thing is that almost nothing in the DCAU was really planned to connect with each other. They just made great shows and then next show built on those strong foundations.
Even within shows, they never actually knew how long the show would last. Justice League pretty much had 3 series finales because they kept thinking the show would end. They didn't know that Justice League was going to get renewed after the second season so they decided to go out with a bang with the Thanagarian invasion of earth. Then they thought Justice League Unlimited was going to end after it's second season so they resolved the Cadmus arc and saved a special episode for "Epilogue" which was supposed to wrap up the whole DCAU. Then they got renewed again and still managed to go out huge with Darkseid invading earth and all the heroes and villains having to team up to beat him.
Couldn't agree more Exo.
@@KingOfMadCows Thank you for this.
@@wristofkings Well, not Bruce Timm. He's stuck on his weird Batgirl/Batman shipping, keeps cramming it into everything he's attached to.
“Someone is getting robbed in Gotham.”
*Rich turns into Joker
If joker was part hyena
He was the reason that robbery was happening.
If that laugh was fake and forced and Rich Evans has become self aware then may God help all humanity.
He was so goddamn bored until that came up
He was the joker from the beginning
Jay doing an impression of David lynch talking to Zack Snyder is what gives me life
Timestamp?
@@arcticfirst 1:01:29
I appreciate the editor’s note of “Rich Evans is totally wrong.”
I know I shouldn't be, but I am always surprised by how diligently Mike takes notes.
That's because he can't remember anything after years of alcohol and vhs tapes have turned his brain to mush.
He's like the guy from Memento except for movie criticism
It's because their content comes across as effortless. But there's a lot of prep involved. Like anal
i think its naive to think these guys dont put a lot of work and thought on whatever they do
@@marceloz7894 Well, some people don't know about movie formats, so how the fuck would they know how much effort it takes to prepare a movie critique?
I kinda hope this movie sets the precedent in Hollywood that audiences are willing to watch longer movies. It’d be pretty neat to see a return to the days of movie intermissions.
In Greece movies over two hours have intermission it's actually really nice you get to go the bathroom, get popcorn, refill your drink it's really nice
So like Bollywood movies..sometimes they have 2 breaks
@@athenajaxon2397 That's great! More theaters should do that but I understand that if you have intermissions then you'd have one screening less per day.
@@Nitrobotti charge more
I’m all for it but I shudder to think of what they’d be charging at the theatre
You know it's gonna be a great review when they bring back international celebrity Rich Evans XD
We know him as Dick, the Birthday boy
Back back
@@personanongratis I have just come back from my weekly trip around the universe and I can confirm that Rich Evans is an intergalactic superstar.
Dick the recut boy. Which is also the title of a forthcoming documentary about the worlds best mohel.
He dressed for the occasion.
To answer your question, I believe that Joss Whedon needed to contribute at least 51% of the scenes to this film in order to be given credit for directing. It's just like what happened with Richard Donner and Richard Lester with "Superman II."
Surprised they didn’t talk about Aquaman in the theatrical release drinking whiskey to the white stripes and swimming straight to Atlantis to fight Steppenwolf while under the influence. That was bizarre
I mean he's half Atleantean it probably doesn't affect him
You are saying 'under the influence' like he went for a drive to drop off his kid at school
Hey have you seen that guy?
I would nit fight him sobber.
Justice League Snyder Cut: "That's stayin' in!"
You can just say "Snyder Cut"
I have a crippling condition. I am physically unable to look at Henry Cavill's face without seeing his awful CGI'ed upper lip. Even when its not there, I see it. Plz send help.
Hot take : because CGi artist did actually such a good job removing them so that some people were so involved on noticing them that they now see it everywhere because brain saved that pattern.
David Lynch would not approve of this, but point your phone at the TV and watch Henry through it with a moustache filter enabled.
Hahaha! xD
@@jimkocherful He absolutely would do this.
I have severe difficulties watching Affleck changing his appearance several times - sometimes even within the same scene.
So technically, I think that Snyder said "I need to take some time off to deal with a family tragedy" and the studio was regretting having him as a director anyhow. So they gave him an ultimatum that if he left they were going to do it without him, and he was like "fuck you, but I have to go". They brought in Whedon, who was thinking of a way to get another crack at Avengers.
Normal person: wow there ws a lot to analyze in this movie
RLM fan: Mike hasn't mentioned star trek a single time in this interview
Can we just take a moment to appreciate Henry Cavill. While the rest of the cast looked bored and annoyed delivering the Whedon lines, Henry was fully vested and giving it everything he had. Sure it was still terrible, but at least he was trying.
Maybe the CG of his face just made it look like he was trying.
I really appreciated that Joss Whedon made his Superman way more likable, actually trying to protect people and doing it with all the confidence only he can have, where as in the Snyder Cut he’s a violent psychopath that brutally tortures Steppenwolf before killing him.
@@Jonboi-jh3xc I appreciate your appreciation of Superman's character. Because I sure don't appreciate neither Whedon or Snyder in general.
Yeah as someone who has never cared for the Snyder DC era, I have tremendous respect for Cavilles apparent passion and professionalism
Is there a human on earth that doesnt appreciate Henry Cavill?
Kinda impressed nobody mentioned the weird snyder scene where aquaman angrily walks into the ocean, throws his sweater off and jumps in the water. And suddenly a group of women start singing him a goodbye song, while one picks up his sweater and starts taking a deep sniff out of it in front of everyone else. And Batman just watches this whole thing like: "..bruh, what?"
Yeah that got a 'dafuq?' out of me.
I found it artful and it showed how the villagers there saw him as a God. He doesn’t ask for them to worship or sing for him or anything. But these villagers are a spiritual and religious people and praise him. I really like the scene.
@@TheFro1112 Yeah. It was more of an ephemeral scene, almost religious. Not meant to be taken very ordinarily.
@@TheFro1112 Nah those women were thirsty...
That's just how women regularly treat Jason Momoa
Only trouble is, every shot of the Snyder films I've seen are too dark and murky to see anything. It's even in the posters, I can't make the characters out on that.
I want Detective Chimp film.
Yeah, I hate the color correcting in Snyder’s fucking movies! Why is everything so bland and murky and shadowy and washed out and hazy and muted and shit???
@@curly_wyn Yes more adjectives!
Can't wait for Justice League 2: The Rise of All These Streaming Services
JL2: TROATSS.
Quibi would definitely be the comic relief the studio thought was a great idea but audiences hated.
@@lucaswakefield4511 Darth Quibi theory?
The chrome edition should come out first.
Yup
Mike: "Rich, meanwhile someone is getting mugged in Gotham"
30:45 *Rich proceeds to laugh, as if he's queuing exactly what the Joker would do knowing Batman isn't there*
Man, Rich has a far better Joker laugh than Jared Leto's.
"Batman's been around 80 years and he's had one good one-liner."
Yup, and it's "The hammer of justice is unisex."
"You wana get nuts?! Lets get nuts" only 1 liner from batman everyone knows
@@captaintoyota3171 batman never said that, I did.
“I’m not wearing Hockey pads” “This Isn’t a car”
“It’ll sure make backing out of the driveway easier”
Bat credit card. "Never leave the cave without it!"
Batman's role is crowd control, which if you've ever played an MMORPG you'd know is an important function.
Like in a destiny raid somebody’s gotta clear the generic enemies
Exactly. People need to understand that batman isn't supposed to fight the big bad guy, he does everything else. Without Batmans support the big supers wouldn't be able to fight the bad guy
Exactly. Henry Cavill understood it very well.
this is a very nerd-dense comment
@@tastycookiechip Batman is the guy who’s outsmarted Darkseid himself in the past, though. Kinda feel like an experienced Batman would be able to contribute a hell of a lot more than being a glorified bouncer.
Joss Whedon's cut plays like an alternate universe where human language is _almost_ semantically identical, but people only talk through one another rather than to them.
Reminds me of an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation
Cyborg: "My toes Hurt! I don't understand the physics of how my toes hurt!" Josstice League
Cyborg: "I'm not Broken." Snyder cut
Nough said.
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@@WampaReacts Also Snyder:
WW: "You should get dressed"
Cyborg: "I'm always dressed!"
lol both versions have some abominable dialogue, and both version stink. This version just stinks a little less.
Sounds like Aaron Sorkin
can't believe they missed the chance to put this in a 4:3 aspect ratio
Rich wouldn't fit in the frame if they did it in 4:3 aspect ratio.
@@brockbuster Lies! The idea to make it 4:3 is so you can see more of the frame! On your 16:9 screens!!
Yeah, there is information on the top and the bottom that got cut away! Release it!
@@orihalchon That joke went right over your head, huh? You SnyderBros are legitimately insane.
@@orihalchon Because 4:3 is how theatrical movies are actually cut. All you have to do is change your ratio on your TV to wide screen and it's perfect.
"You wanna get nuts!" [Smashes vase on the mantle] "C'mon! Let's get nuts." Best Batman one-liner.
This is correct
Also best Batman movie... and Joker.
It's either this or "You'll peanut butter jello forever" from The Dark Knight
Small potatoes next to
"Eat floor! HIGH IN FIBER".
Rewatched that movie a few days ago, that whole scene is odd and I'd love to know the story behind it.
I wish they’d used the scene from justice league: war that shows what parademons actually are. That makes them more interesting than what most people assume is another generic cgi army.
Man I wish they would just redo this whole justice league nonsense.
This JL film has some, not all, great qualities and great potential but overall it’s just not-good and just shy of being bad. Like, how do they have a JL movie without green lantern or a more involved Martian manhunter.