Interesting this man never used steroids, makes 3 million a month helping people quit addictions. If you go watch his channel you will see he is teh best example you will ever see. Go watch and learn.
Except that this loudmouth dude could easily take down the guy he talked down to. I don't agree with his overall tone and attitude, but it'd be a folly to think the other guy would win in a fist to fist fight. He'd lose straight up, it's not even a competition. There is no shame in admitting it. Give credit where credit is due, right?
That steroid guy looks like the most insecure person on the whole stage. “The loudest man in the room is the weakest man in the room” That was a great closing statement “an argument with a stranger is an ego battle” Ill remember that one! 🙏
@@garymckeon5410 deffo, if you need to prove to everyone how alpha you are, the only person you are actually trying to convince is yourself. Insecurity operates through projection. Sigma males are the true alphas 😂
Seriously. I lost all respect for him immediately. Want to to know how stupid he sounds to me? Just replace every swear he says with the word "banana". Can't stand when people use swear words as filler. He talks like a child and wants me to listen to him?
I dress like I'm in a boy band, take steroids, can't control my emotions....and define my self worth by the fact I put myself in prison, and drive a Lambo. I AM A LOSER!! nice job WES!!
I've learned that big guys like that are nothing more than emotional babies... talk about laughing at a clown!! The bigger the guy, the more frail their emotions. Little sad emotional babies. Especially construction workers. 😅
Why people think, that making money is equal to intelligent, or dressing like an idiot ?! Also, a lambo?! Smart guys get a Porsche, not a FCK lambo! Show me your friends, i will tell you, who you are!!!!
"Baldy!" Has the Mentality that Outshining other men is what makes life worth living. He is overly concerned about the opinions of others which is a Feminine characteristic.
That guy is one big screaming insecurity. If after so much “success” he is incapable of allowing someone else their separate worldview, he is uncontrollably showing how undeveloped he is. That’s quite humiliating.
Yes and no. Yes bc whoever the moderator wouldn’t take control of this situation. Pathetic. That’s where they lost. Where they gained: seeing how this kind of behavior just makes you look like an Asshole and teaches nothing valuable
Never even watched the show, but I've heard the quote. And it's extremely appropriate to this situation. Reminds me of this: The Bible book of Proverbs, chapter 16, verse 32: "The one slow to anger is better than a mighty man, And the one controlling his temper than one conquering a city." We all relate to that dude who kept his cool and was all about family and making the future a better place. The dude who was trying to escalate is off-putting for a reason, because he's all about self.
This is interesting. I certainly agree that an argument, even with someone who isn't a stranger, is an ego battle. I don't think it's correct to say that it's NOTHING MORE than an ego battle. The people arguing could also be genuinely trying to arrive at the truth of the matter at hand.
In the gym, we call them "Anabolic Annies". They come in, strut around for a couple of hours while only doing about 15 minutes of actual lifting, basically disrupting and annoying everyone, especially the women and any guys who aren't built to their specifications of a "man" and wreck everyone's workout. They usually shut up when I start bouncing 500 lbs off of my chest doing Bench Presses. They can't figure out how a guy who only weighs 265 lbs and is 6'7" can do that. (being tall makes my arms very long which makes my bench pressing more impressive as I have to lift the weight higher during each rep lol). When I explain to them that I am lifting for the entire 2 hours I am in the gym and then I go to work for 10 hours as a Stonemason who usually ends up moving a total of 4-5 tons of stones every day by hand and it's all natural with zero enhancement drinks, drugs, powders, or shakes, they just move right along lol. They know their steroid-generated fake muscles have no endurance and no twitch of any sort.
@@thomasjoseph5876 That's todays gym. Big mouths like that wouldn't last 5 minutes at the original Golds, Bill Pearls and especially Vince Giranda's. I personally watched an idiot like that quickly taken out by Bill himself, and Vince was even more strict, he would let you know in advance what wasn't tolerated and would intimidate someone twice his size and half his age. No one messed with Vince.
@@dagodino We didn't have any of those cool gyms where I grew up. BUT...... We did have Jesse "The Body" Ventura's gym (that's where I learned to lift at), and while his Pro Wrestling Persona was a gimmick, he still didn't have any time for foolishness. You came, you worked out, you didn't bother others (questions or discussions about lifting were cool), and you left. If you wanted to gossip or bluster, you did it elsewhere lol. At any given time there were 2 or 3 Pro Wrestlers, Viking Football players, or amateur boxers lifting and they didn't cotton to any sort of BS either.
@@thomasjoseph5876In definetly not on the side of the dbags in question but, your comment is a a little suspect. I’ve been working out more than half my life. Gym rat for decades. Never seen a guy on roids who lifts for 15 minutes and is out. All of the roid guys including my times on gear - we put in a ton of work 45-1hr of intensity. Not a single guy I’ve ever seen fits your description of 15 minutes and talking sht had muscle. And literally no one lifts for 2 hours strait.
Success isn't measured by how much wealth you gain. Or by how much you can bench. But in the impact and influence you leave behind and the lives that you touch in your lifetime.
@@blatnick81 I respectfully disagree with you. My biased idea of success is the feeling state within you, if you're happy fishing or writing a book then you are successful. Question yourself this - if there is 1 thing that you want in this world, what is it? It's not kids, it's not a partner, it's not money, it's not health, what it is, is the feeling state of safety and not that those things bring you. When you're with your partner you feel joy right? So it's not the marriage that you want, it's the feeling state of safety in your soul. That's what you want. The feeling state. That state, no matter if it's lifting weights or laughing at a comedy festival or climbing a mountain, that feeling state is success. The only way your comment is correct is I'm saying, that the impact you have on the world has a profound impact on you, and how you feel. Many people have lasting impacts on the world and commit suicide... So where's the line in the sand there?? If you're not happy then you aint successful. Too bad some people can't see it
Yes, but what happens when a psychopath "alpha" meets a true social path who WILL take things a level higher no matter how high you want to take things... 🤔
They aren't his kids. Not shitting on step dad's but none of them were his kid a year ago, he had another kid named Wolfe who he doted on, bit as soon as breakup he never sees him or talks to him. Always played it like Wolfe was his son. A little over a year ago Morgan Osman was his new girl and engaged but it blew up in two weeks, she even tattooed his name on her face which he was happy about bc that's what you gotta do to show self belief. Then new girl comes in and a week later he's super dad.
If you have the correct Answers and information argue with idiots they don't always drag you down to their level remember they are idiots, but even an idiot can see sense,no disrespect to mark twain but those scholars aren't always right,ime not saying ime right but it's not fair on the idiot if you don't give him the chance to learn SOMETHING that's all I'm saying please excuse my spelling thanks.💛💜🤍❤️🧡💛💜✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌸🌼🌳🌴☺️
@@hottub2249 If you have the FACTS and the stamina then you can argue all day long with an idiot because even an idiot can be made to change their mind if you're wise enough it can be done in a short period of time,no disrespect to mark twain, some people don't have the stamina even for a short argument,if you're facts are strong enough and your delivery is equaly strong then you must deliver your point of view,it's called debate , you see idiots debating in parliament every day ,if you didn't debate with idiots the world would get nowhere fast ,so saying don't argue with idiots is a very stupid thing to say when it comes down to it the idiot whether you like it or not deserves to experience the truth,or we would have a LOT MORE IDIOTS ROAMING AROUND THIS WORLD,The World can't afford to have anymore Idiots it has quite enough thankyou,so instead of ignoring them interact with them and you might be quite surprised.💛💜🤍❤️🧡💛💜✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌸🌼🌳🌴☺️
A wise man once said 'When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.' The funny thing with plenty of ex-convicts is unfortunately that you can sense the attributes on them that made them go to prison in the first place.
Yup. Do disagreeing men stick to constructive and respectful argument or do they resort to the very behaviour that will likely put them in prison, the behaviour that drags down society when other men start to emulate it and form gangs that threaten your everyday citizen?
This guy is successful in every area? Right. Let’s give him a science exam and ask him to proofread a couple of history books for grammar and accuracy.
Mr Clean stating that his kids "see his Bugatti and see what he brings to the table" as a metric of a happy family is absolute cope. Children value their dad being there with them, loving them and feeling safe with them, and being made to feel that they're an important part of his world. Andrew gets that.
I have a nephew who grew up with a dad who made a lot of money - and spent a lot of money. Everything the kid learned was to measure how much things cost. My nephew adored his dad. My ex-brother in law didn't spend a lot of time with his kids, and at some point lost his high paying job and went bankrupt, including draining his kids' college funds. Left the family for another woman he'd had a kid with a few years before. Now, my nephew wants nothing to do with his dad. Mr Clean will end up the same way.
My Dad doesn’t have much, but he took us fishing, taught us work ethic, gave us opportunities to learn how to operate heavy equipment, taught us about finances. Love that man so much. I couldn’t care less if he had a Bugatti.
Always remember, if you raise your family to believe that uour value is based upon the monetary assets you provide them, you cement two ideals: 1) Anyone who could provide more to them should be considered more valuable (So if you aren't the richest man in the world, you ain't the alpha), and 2) Human beings have less inherent value than their possessions.
@JJ-mp7rg "Yeah I wish douchebags like that were more rare. Seem pretty common to me, in fact." Yep, thanks to social media where clowns like that are given a global stage with which to blast their idiocy and stupidity to a following of simple minded fools.
The one thing that Mr. Steroid does not have, is friends. He has "hangers on" and people who like his money and life style, but I wonder how many would have his back if he was in trouble ?
His trophy wife included , she wouldn’t put up with all that if it wasn’t for the money. If it all disappeared tomorrow she would be out the door the next day.
@@TrexGrimStudI think something happened at home that made him insecure. Insecurity made him play the big guy which made him go to prison. I don’t know nothing about him, but I saw it happen a thousand times.
Yeah, it shows the importance of 2nd amendment in the US, and good self-defence laws (anywhere). This was a controlled environment, but what would happen if a large bully like this picked him on the street... a gun is an equalizer or even a leverage.
The man with tits who wouldnt even be able to move a bigger couch? Not to mention defend his family unless he has his little pew pew Truth is none of these two are a good example, since you gotta mix both worlds to be a real man, love and strength, not just one.
Poor Wes. He's so brittle and easily triggered. He doesn't realise that even his massive body, that he has obviously spent SO many hours on, is a sign of weakness.
@@Cooldaddymon I think there's some value in keeping yourself sensibly strong and fit but that whole roided-up nonsense is a different ball-game. And it's much more about insecurity and fear and weakness and self-esteem issues.
@@Cooldaddymon when I was in high school in the seventies there was a guy that had bigger muscles then this guy he started to pick on this fat kid and the fat kid beat The living daylights out of him. I also have a friend that was half the size of this guy he would never fight anybody smaller than him. A guy like this with one punch he will knock him out just like Mike Tyson
Gotta say too, the fact Wes brings it to material wealth with his kids is really telling. My daughters appreciate the work I do, but they don't quite grasp the money associated with it. To them, Daddy works when he puts in effort, when I am doing things, not when I bring home toys. Like I remodeled their bathroom myself rather than pay someone in order to save money, and I genuinely think my kids connected more with that than had I just cut a check for someone else to do it.
This is so disappointing. I've heard smarter conversations from 6th grade kids. It baffles me that any grown man would waste any time attending to this event
@GABRIELADAWSON Probably want to learn to restrict your use of capital letters before making nonsensical comparisons with spectator events. Those Romans were clueless.
I was always told not to throw stones in glass houses. You can't mock someone's appearance when you look like a badly drawn caricature of Right Said Fred.
He avoided every single argument to just get personal...like a school ground bully...what a bore and if you think that guy is someone you want to be then your parents failed raising you.
...and tries to get up in his face, threatens violence. Guy struggles to use his words, and can't even form a coherent rebuttal, all he has is ad hominem. Trying to think on the fly is asking way too much of Turbo here; all he has is a trick-bag of pre-prepared talking points that are absolutely correct in his mind, and there is no other perspective.
@@masondegaulle5731 are you trying to argue that the so called alpha is the one coming off well here and whatever the hell a turbo is just looks weak and prepared? You are one of those guys whose a sheep! Easily led by idiots 🤣
Great points. My partner has a good disconnection saying at times: “I don’t believe this conversation is productive any longer we can come back to it later.”
My definition of success is to be known as a man of character, integrity, and honor. "He's a good man." "He's a trustworthy man." "He's a man of integrity." "He is a man of honor." "You can always count on him." "I trust him with my life." When people are saying these things about you - to third parties - you are a successful man. Doesn't matter how many tattoos you have or if anyone can figure out what they are.
@@denisrivarola2387 - I feel sorry for you that you believe that. I've known multiple men who were, and continue to be, spoken of very highly even after their death. I hope my legacy is like those men.
@@ShawnKitchenyes, I agree feeling sorry for Denis because it's obvious he will never be spoken about in this way. Perhaps it is because he surrounds himself with others who lack integrity, honor, trustworthiness etc.,
I love the idea of his kids encountering this video 10 years from now, and seeing how their dad had a tantrum and barely said he loved his kids more than a car.
All i gotta say, is that has to be a GOOD ass car to get away with that one, and seeing baldies fashion choice, i know whatever he picked isnt it lmao😂
The bald guy on the left wearing all white. He may just be the poorest person I know because all he has is money. He doesn’t seem to grasp or even attempt to understand a worldview that doesn’t put physical strength and material possessions as telltale signs of success. It’s not about being wealthy; it’s about doing the best you can with what you have. It’s not about having gigantic muscles; it’s about trying to be healthy to describe yourself and others. He is threatened by the other guys worldview, which is truly indicative of the bald guys insecurities. People with true power and success don’t need to show or tell you that they have these things.
A real man doesn’t need to tear down or berate or insult his fellow man to make himself feel like a man. All of us real men were out here in the real world busting our asses so he could go to prison and watch free TV and get a free meal and workout and play drop the soap with his fellow inmates.
@@DeadEnduro When you're arguing with a moron, you don't make intelligent arguments. He will not understand you. Instead, you hit him where it hurts. It worked here.
@@Tigermaster1986Did we watch the same thing? Dropping to Mr. Clean's level didn't work. He should have stuck to the high road rather than slinging mud with a man child
@@jaybird2148 Yes, you are correct, as evidenced by all the idiots in the crowd that showed up for this nonsense. You couldn’t pay me to go to such an “incel convention”.
What's a real man? Some people will say that a real man does not have to go to prison before he can develops a livable code outside of prison, goals, aspirations, standards, jail house upper muscles while always missing leg day exercises and the ability to discuss different views and topics in a adult and calm manner without attempting to bully, over talk and making attempts to threat his or her counterpart.
Wes has more than just a checkered past. He did 10 years in prison, something he's very proud of, for a multitude of crimes. He is an example of a manchild that destroyed his own family and community for short term financial gain and street rep. He is the absolute last person anyone should listen to for life advice.
Wait why would he be proud of having done 10 years in prison ? That makes no sense. I did a couple years in a state prison. I can understand being proud of doing a certain crime to end up in prison but not being proud of actually having been in prison for some time which obviously sucks big time and it’s embarrassing. Prison signifies failure, even if you okay with being a criminal it signifies that you failed as a criminal, You got caught and a were locked up like a bitch. Did he refuse to snitch on someone or something ? I can understand a criminal being proud of that I guess. I have no idea who he is but maybe he’s proud of having overcoming prison and rising above it... unfortunately he still seems like an asshole though.
@@LuckyCharms777A lot of roided out gym bros were bullied hard and could never fight back. I've heard this coming from them in videos and reading about their past. These people are trying to hide their fear.
I Googled his net worth, only 1.7 million I have 0 million so I can't make fun but to claim 90 million and be off by basically 88 million is hilarious in and of itself
@@molanlabe5868 this man suffers from insecurities. nobody really cares about how much money the next man has. then this man wears pants with no knees in them. like I did when I was 8 years old.
Yep his true net worth is around about $2 million, and has nothing to show for it, he has to rent kids to pretend to have a family, and hangs around with desperate penniless mothers to do so.
I think it was Billy Carlson who once said that the majority of churches are filled with people who lack the presence of a father figure in their life.
wrong take, it is given that these men love their families, this is a debate between successful men, the soft guy was bing evasive and gave a sneaky answer, that implied he was ashamed of lack of success. he also lied about no money, he should have been honest about his profession.
@@boshirahmed No, people who love their families, prioritize their families. This guy's ego is his priority. Money and muscles don't = success. I don't see anything soft about the man that you're talking about. It's obvious that the "alpha" man was insecure and lacking in intelligence, and when his ego was hurt he threatened violence because he cant use his words. I hope that you don't look up to that guy because he is a terrible role model.
My kids couldn't give two shi*s about my physique. They want me to be there to support them when they need me, to be interested in their lives and to provide what they need in life. Me having big muscles isn't something my kids require. *Edit: Some people seem to assuming that I'm unhealthy. I exercise a lot and my sons exercise with me. Just no need or purpose as far as longevity is concerned in having massive muscles.
I personally saw my dad go from unhealthy, to pretty good shape, and even though I'm in good shape, it made me want to do more.... and proud of him as well... so, definitely something to think about.
@@knightraider1362 You've assumed I'm unhealthy. I exercise everyday and my sons join in with me. We just don't waste time building enormous, silly muscles.
If you have to go by a alpha, beta, sigma, blah blah spectrum, you’re not anywhere near the top of that spectrum. Leave that crap for 13 year olds going through puberty rage.
@@jaybird2148 Exactly. Anyone thinking that way is immature and doesn't understand the nuance of life. They want a 1, 2, 3 rank and to be able to choose the top
Manhood is not 1 size fits all. Some men are clearly warriors. Others are priests, poets, philosophers, bricklayers, cooks, etc. You must consider your gifts, and what is your telos, ie. what would it look like if you developed yourself according to your gifts and nature in order to become your best self? Part of me becoming my best gift to humanity is to catalyze this in others, and that often means breaking the false assumption that we have to have the same kind of achievements as someone else. I have no idea what kind of man you are becoming unless I know what kind of man you are. If your answer for others is always, "I'm right, copy me," then you will confuse people and divert them from their course toward destiny.
As someone's with literally nothing to show for his artistic and intellectual talents, I doubt I'd be able to fulfil my dreams - or rather, delusions - of success.
@@fightscience Which shows why F&F aren't interested in a path forward for males. They will wallow in drama for cash and clicks. That makes them pretty feminine IMO.
@@davetherave1230 The bigger man got into an argument with the smaller man, then the bigger man decided to get physical with the smaller man and got cut with a paper clip. I learned that the Criminal Mind can be very ingenious in regards to Self-defense!
The weirdest thing is that Wes thinks his kids are going to be looking at him through some kind of sexualized lense and making comments on his body. Not if he's a good father or not but how subjectively good he looks when he takes off his shirt. Weird.
Basically the alpha male is saying "Mommy didn't love me, so I'm gonna compensate the shit out of it, So I don't have to be reminded that I wasn't loved for just being a child". Basic psychology.
I think the meathead does pretty well on the diagnostic checklist for NPD and he only needs 5 of these. 1, Grandiose sense of self-importance. 2, Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love. 3, Belief that he or she is special and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people or institutions. 4, Need for excessive admiration. 5, Sense of entitlement. 6, Interpersonally exploitive behavior. 7, Lack of empathy. 8, Envy of others or belief that others are envious of him or her. 9, Demonstration of arrogant and haughty behaviors or attitudes.
"alpha dude" is the definition of an insecure bully. Muscles, tats, money and being an asshole does not impress me. This guy is toxic and I hope he learns to realize this and change his ways.
The good thing about it is they identify themselves so the normal people can avoid them. And also I bet this type of people will ever find a woman that loves them, they'll find a woman that wants their money.
Guy is the perfect example of making wealth their identity. Guy talks about being "extraordinary" but take away his money and that's 3/4 of his personality gone, last 1/4 is just all front, person-suit stuff. Reeks of insecurity.
Mr. Steroid Clean is so insecure that he felt personally attacked by someone simply stating their personal view on life.
Thats weakness.
super weak. He is a walking weakness.
@ShawsOwn
Hopefully persil boy emerged a wiser man.
Absolutely
Interesting this man never used steroids, makes 3 million a month helping people quit addictions. If you go watch his channel you will see he is teh best example you will ever see. Go watch and learn.
Well-said (written)!
The loudest man in the room is the usually the weakest.
Except that this loudmouth dude could easily take down the guy he talked down to. I don't agree with his overall tone and attitude, but it'd be a folly to think the other guy would win in a fist to fist fight. He'd lose straight up, it's not even a competition. There is no shame in admitting it. Give credit where credit is due, right?
The emptiest vessel makes the most noise.
Or the dumbest... or both
@@iamR92you ever heard the term “gym muscles”
Dude is a fitness youtuber. Being fit does NOT equal being able to fight
Growing up i came up with “only little dogs bark a lot”
Big dude is so poor, all he has is money
Summed him up perfectly 👌
R.I.P. Bob Marley
@@Ben-Kensomeone else is quoted as saying it. We'll never know. Probably neither of them said it
Supposedly
One's wealth is measured in one's resources, and there is no greater resource than faith.
I'm trying to understand why anyone would sit and listen to this panel.
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100%
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Its for npc's that can't think and need to be told.
Not only did they sit to listen, they probably paid heavy to do so...
That steroid guy looks like the most insecure person on the whole stage. “The loudest man in the room is the weakest man in the room”
That was a great closing statement “an argument with a stranger is an ego battle” Ill remember that one! 🙏
insecure and scared hidden by aggression and trying to prove to everyone watching he is an alpha because he knows deep down he is not
@@garymckeon5410 deffo, if you need to prove to everyone how alpha you are, the only person you are actually trying to convince is yourself. Insecurity operates through projection.
Sigma males are the true alphas 😂
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Steroids = Roid Rage
I already knew that by all his tattoos. He didn't even have to speak for me to know that.
First rule of "alpha club": if you run your mouth about being "alpha" you're not.
Hear hear
😂 he’s a twat. He’s a small human to me.
Correct
He can´t get up is DCK!
Perfect, it`s simple Basic knowledge, thank you for remainding us... We need truth in these times...
Never take advice from someone in ripped white jeans.
Very good advice.
ESPECIALLY after Labor Day......can you say tacky?!
@@seymourglass26 $1000 for jeans is even more embarrassing lol 😆 #dontbedazzlemebro
@@seymourglass26 he's the result of Goldberg taking a dump at TJ Maxx.
lmao
He ISN'T an Alpha, he can't even get his point across without swearing.
Seriously. I lost all respect for him immediately. Want to to know how stupid he sounds to me? Just replace every swear he says with the word "banana". Can't stand when people use swear words as filler. He talks like a child and wants me to listen to him?
I dress like I'm in a boy band, take steroids, can't control my emotions....and define my self worth by the fact I put myself in prison, and drive a Lambo. I AM A LOSER!! nice job WES!!
I've learned that big guys like that are nothing more than emotional babies... talk about laughing at a clown!! The bigger the guy, the more frail their emotions. Little sad emotional babies. Especially construction workers. 😅
Why people think, that making money is equal to intelligent, or dressing like an idiot ?! Also, a lambo?! Smart guys get a Porsche, not a FCK lambo! Show me your friends, i will tell you, who you are!!!!
Well said
@@freehaven1 single?. Joking
@@freehaven1 I think I love you
Bald guy is probably one of the most insecure people I've seen in a long time; he's trapped at 12 years old.
everyone on that stage are the most insecure people on the planet.
dude is stuck in that high school mentality
"Baldy!" Has the Mentality that Outshining other men is what makes life worth living. He is overly concerned about the opinions of others which is a Feminine characteristic.
Many men rarely mature emotionally
Give him a little more credit. He's trapped at 14.
Imagine being triggered by someone who puts kids and family above bugattis
It shows his real self (spirit man) is not happy with his life choices
'bugattis'?
@@synthonaplinth5980 Sports car
It's really telling that he values his familiy so little. Can guarantee he takes drugs all the time and pays for sex lol.
They are losers
That guy is one big screaming insecurity.
If after so much “success” he is incapable of allowing someone else their separate worldview, he is uncontrollably showing how undeveloped he is.
That’s quite humiliating.
nailed it!
Requires a personality transplant for true success. Which is impossible. Karma.
@@cooganbeggs4942 thank you 🙏🏼
@@bardsamok9221 true true..!
I can tell he triggered you good
A dude that spent 3 hours putting his outfit together for the show, thinks he's a man.
The guy is like Andrew Tate, another so called masculinity coach to impress a bunch of 13 year olds.
He's a roid rage idiot.
White shirt jeans and shoes.... That would take you 3 hours?
For Wes this is nothing. He often carries a purse with a color that matches his outfit color.
That guy, I would never talk to. Not do business with, not buying from, not selling to. He is the most unstable guy I've seen in years.
You know who really lost? The audience that probably spent money to see that.
Facts 😂
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Jerry Springer lives! 😂
Yes and no. Yes bc whoever the moderator wouldn’t take control of this situation. Pathetic. That’s where they lost. Where they gained: seeing how this kind of behavior just makes you look like an Asshole and teaches nothing valuable
Finally! Some truth.
'Any man who must say, "I am the King", is no true king.' - Tywin Lannister
Never even watched the show, but I've heard the quote. And it's extremely appropriate to this situation. Reminds me of this:
The Bible book of Proverbs, chapter 16, verse 32:
"The one slow to anger is better than a mighty man, And the one controlling his temper than one conquering a city."
We all relate to that dude who kept his cool and was all about family and making the future a better place. The dude who was trying to escalate is off-putting for a reason, because he's all about self.
'go on.. say something clever'
"An argument with a stranger is nothing more than an ego battle." Real talk there.
@tatertotsRgewdnot if someone is able to argue. most aren't...
@tatertotsRgewd maybe don't project too much and check the hierarchy of defense mechanisms...
This is interesting. I certainly agree that an argument, even with someone who isn't a stranger, is an ego battle. I don't think it's correct to say that it's NOTHING MORE than an ego battle. The people arguing could also be genuinely trying to arrive at the truth of the matter at hand.
@tatertotsRgewd uhh, a big man online.. who doesn't have met them?
*Roid rage. This guy went viral for all the wrong reasons.*
In the gym, we call them "Anabolic Annies".
They come in, strut around for a couple of hours while only doing about 15 minutes of actual lifting, basically disrupting and annoying everyone, especially the women and any guys who aren't built to their specifications of a "man" and wreck everyone's workout.
They usually shut up when I start bouncing 500 lbs off of my chest doing Bench Presses. They can't figure out how a guy who only weighs 265 lbs and is 6'7" can do that. (being tall makes my arms very long which makes my bench pressing more impressive as I have to lift the weight higher during each rep lol).
When I explain to them that I am lifting for the entire 2 hours I am in the gym and then I go to work for 10 hours as a Stonemason who usually ends up moving a total of 4-5 tons of stones every day by hand and it's all natural with zero enhancement drinks, drugs, powders, or shakes, they just move right along lol.
They know their steroid-generated fake muscles have no endurance and no twitch of any sort.
He'll lose his money to settle lawsuits and will be back in prison
@@thomasjoseph5876 That's todays gym. Big mouths like that wouldn't last 5 minutes at the original Golds, Bill Pearls and especially Vince Giranda's. I personally watched an idiot like that quickly taken out by Bill himself, and Vince was even more strict, he would let you know in advance what wasn't tolerated and would intimidate someone twice his size and half his age. No one messed with Vince.
@@dagodino We didn't have any of those cool gyms where I grew up.
BUT......
We did have Jesse "The Body" Ventura's gym (that's where I learned to lift at), and while his Pro Wrestling Persona was a gimmick, he still didn't have any time for foolishness.
You came, you worked out, you didn't bother others (questions or discussions about lifting were cool), and you left.
If you wanted to gossip or bluster, you did it elsewhere lol. At any given time there were 2 or 3 Pro Wrestlers, Viking Football players, or amateur boxers lifting and they didn't cotton to any sort of BS either.
@@thomasjoseph5876In definetly not on the side of the dbags in question but, your comment is a a little suspect. I’ve been working out more than half my life. Gym rat for decades. Never seen a guy on roids who lifts for 15 minutes and is out. All of the roid guys including my times on gear - we put in a ton of work 45-1hr of intensity. Not a single guy I’ve ever seen fits your description of 15 minutes and talking sht had muscle.
And literally no one lifts for 2 hours strait.
Wes: Success is getting.
Andrew: Success is giving.
Well said.
I love the brevity, beautifully simple
Success isn't measured by how much wealth you gain. Or by how much you can bench. But in the impact and influence you leave behind and the lives that you touch in your lifetime.
@@blatnick81 I respectfully disagree with you.
My biased idea of success is the feeling state within you, if you're happy fishing or writing a book then you are successful.
Question yourself this - if there is 1 thing that you want in this world, what is it?
It's not kids, it's not a partner, it's not money, it's not health, what it is, is the feeling state of safety and not that those things bring you.
When you're with your partner you feel joy right? So it's not the marriage that you want, it's the feeling state of safety in your soul. That's what you want. The feeling state.
That state, no matter if it's lifting weights or laughing at a comedy festival or climbing a mountain, that feeling state is success.
The only way your comment is correct is I'm saying, that the impact you have on the world has a profound impact on you, and how you feel.
Many people have lasting impacts on the world and commit suicide... So where's the line in the sand there??
If you're not happy then you aint successful.
Too bad some people can't see it
@@devarmont87 You will never find success with your definition.
classic narcissist and sociopath
If you knew Andrew, you'd know he's not much better...
He just happened to be on the correct side of the rhetoric this time
Spot on, describing dark triad personality characteristics like they're something to brag about. Complete delusion.
@@marty7442 Who is Andrew? Is he a TH-camr?
Yes, but what happens when a psychopath "alpha" meets a true social path who WILL take things a level higher no matter how high you want to take things... 🤔
I think to much Adderall or coke mixed with steroids!
The dad guy is more handsome, more intelligent and doesn’t have a voice like he just smoked two packs of NAS Browns
Wes Watson actually has 3 children, his 2 kids and then himself
They aren't his kids. Not shitting on step dad's but none of them were his kid a year ago, he had another kid named Wolfe who he doted on, bit as soon as breakup he never sees him or talks to him. Always played it like Wolfe was his son. A little over a year ago Morgan Osman was his new girl and engaged but it blew up in two weeks, she even tattooed his name on her face which he was happy about bc that's what you gotta do to show self belief. Then new girl comes in and a week later he's super dad.
Pretty sure he doesn't have any... steroid use has rendered him infertile..
lol that's a good one.
Wes Watson is a fraud..
It wouldn't surprise me if he has kids that he doesn't know.
“Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain
😂😂😂
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. All it's gonna do is kick the pieces over and strut like it won anyway
If you have the correct Answers and information argue with idiots they don't always drag you down to their level remember they are idiots, but even an idiot can see sense,no disrespect to mark twain but those scholars aren't always right,ime not saying ime right but it's not fair on the idiot if you don't give him the chance to learn SOMETHING that's all I'm saying please excuse my spelling thanks.💛💜🤍❤️🧡💛💜✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌸🌼🌳🌴☺️
Facts
@@hottub2249 If you have the FACTS and the stamina then you can argue all day long with an idiot because even an idiot can be made to change their mind if you're wise enough it can be done in a short period of time,no disrespect to mark twain, some people don't have the stamina even for a short argument,if you're facts are strong enough and your delivery is equaly strong then you must deliver your point of view,it's called debate , you see idiots debating in parliament every day ,if you didn't debate with idiots the world would get nowhere fast ,so saying don't argue with idiots is a very stupid thing to say when it comes down to it the idiot whether you like it or not deserves to experience the truth,or we would have a LOT MORE IDIOTS ROAMING AROUND THIS WORLD,The World can't afford to have anymore Idiots it has quite enough thankyou,so instead of ignoring them interact with them and you might be quite surprised.💛💜🤍❤️🧡💛💜✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌸🌼🌳🌴☺️
A wise man once said 'When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.'
The funny thing with plenty of ex-convicts is unfortunately that you can sense the attributes on them that made them go to prison in the first place.
Yup. Do disagreeing men stick to constructive and respectful argument or do they resort to the very behaviour that will likely put them in prison, the behaviour that drags down society when other men start to emulate it and form gangs that threaten your everyday citizen?
Oh yeah
Not to mention he was dressed like a tampon.
This guy is successful in every area? Right. Let’s give him a science exam and ask him to proofread a couple of history books for grammar and accuracy.
I bet he's great at Calculus too 😂
Mr Clean stating that his kids "see his Bugatti and see what he brings to the table" as a metric of a happy family is absolute cope. Children value their dad being there with them, loving them and feeling safe with them, and being made to feel that they're an important part of his world. Andrew gets that.
I have a nephew who grew up with a dad who made a lot of money - and spent a lot of money. Everything the kid learned was to measure how much things cost. My nephew adored his dad. My ex-brother in law didn't spend a lot of time with his kids, and at some point lost his high paying job and went bankrupt, including draining his kids' college funds. Left the family for another woman he'd had a kid with a few years before. Now, my nephew wants nothing to do with his dad. Mr Clean will end up the same way.
My Dad doesn’t have much, but he took us fishing, taught us work ethic, gave us opportunities to learn how to operate heavy equipment, taught us about finances.
Love that man so much. I couldn’t care less if he had a Bugatti.
@@makattak88 ❤
Always remember, if you raise your family to believe that uour value is based upon the monetary assets you provide them, you cement two ideals: 1) Anyone who could provide more to them should be considered more valuable (So if you aren't the richest man in the world, you ain't the alpha), and 2) Human beings have less inherent value than their possessions.
Kids are the happiest while playing in the puddles after the rain. They don’t need any of that material wealth
“Gotta be ripped, rich, and rare.” Yeah I wish douchebags like that were more rare. Seem pretty common to me, in fact.
The epitome of toxic male...I'm a guy, and generally hate it when people use the term...but this guy is it.
dang that is spot on, best comment in the section.
I mean he’s being extreme, but men shouldnt have tits and 10 inch arms. Thats just pathetic
@JJ-mp7rg "Yeah I wish douchebags like that were more rare. Seem pretty common to me, in fact."
Yep, thanks to social media where clowns like that are given a global stage with which to blast their idiocy and stupidity to a following of simple minded fools.
@@thedude-jb7wx🔼🔼🔼🔼🔼🔼Yup!
Never take criticism from someone you wouldn't take advice from.
Because they're related
So true.. gonna keep this one
That's a keeper
Disagree. In a roundabout way, this thought again places you at the center. It's an ego-centric way of thinking and self-limiting.
I like this
The one thing that Mr. Steroid does not have, is friends. He has "hangers on" and people who like his money and life style, but I wonder how many would have his back if he was in trouble ?
His trophy wife included , she wouldn’t put up with all that if it wasn’t for the money. If it all disappeared tomorrow she would be out the door the next day.
How did he get his cash? Giving value to others? I think not. Perhaps selling candy bars and trading cards to kids. Useless endeavors.
Watson’s inability to deal with an alternative view is a sign of childishness and weakness
Steroid fueled ex-con with poor anger control, how shocking.😂
His rebuttals are ad hominem
He hasn’t seen his testicles since lockup.
All what so much steroids do to his body is making his willy smaller and not functional. No wonder he's so upset.
As Mark Maron said "I'm not an alpha male, I'm the guy at the end of the bar laughing at the guy who thinks he's an alpha male!"
Soo… he hides at the end of the bar and laughs at the people who achieved shit.. got it
@@BartMK I'm laughing right now in fact.
@@jabezhane please elaborate your amazing humor dude! Seems like you are having a great time
Hiding from insecure wanna be is like hiding from an monkey with a gun, still dangerous, it would just be stupid to get too close ;D
@@GeorgeWeedBush or maybe you are too afraid to even get close
I just love the coping delusions weak men make up to keep lying to themselves
Getting triggered and bullying with physical strength is the ultimate weakness.
Confidence means never having to brag about yourself. Your actions will speak for you. Watson is simply a bully.
That exactly what I was thinking when watching this guy.. a very insecure bully.
when he asked " do you always threaten armed men in Florida?"....he took away all power from the ex-con.
Sat down real quick after 🤣
Ex-con who legally cannot be armed. Mr. Clean is an absolute joke. 😂
Man was about to catch some 9mm suppository lol...😂
The bald, muscular guy is very insecure. That isn't persuasive.
maybe something happened in jail that made him so insecure .🤣
@@TrexGrimStud likely he got turned out and sold for smokes
@@TrexGrimStudI think something happened at home that made him insecure. Insecurity made him play the big guy which made him go to prison. I don’t know nothing about him, but I saw it happen a thousand times.
I enjoy the strategy of naming and pointing out what your opponent is doing, "you're now standing because you're losing the argument?"
“You need to set clear boundaries.”
“Do you often start fights with armed men in Florida.”
Yeah. I’d say that’s a pretty clear boundary.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Was a great retort
Yeah, it shows the importance of 2nd amendment in the US, and good self-defence laws (anywhere). This was a controlled environment, but what would happen if a large bully like this picked him on the street... a gun is an equalizer or even a leverage.
😂😂😂
Men done have TIIIIIITTTTS
You right, we got pistols brew 😂
The loudest person in the room is the weakest and most insecure.
In this case yeah
or autistic
Not necessarily. BUT it could be the most psychotic.
ALWAYS.
Clearly, only one real man in that situation. The family man.
Thank u!! Wealth is a tool and I love the quote he gave, 100% facts.
The man with tits who wouldnt even be able to move a bigger couch? Not to mention defend his family unless he has his little pew pew
Truth is none of these two are a good example, since you gotta mix both worlds to be a real man, love and strength, not just one.
1000% chance the bald dudes kids cant stand him
Bingo
Yeah, being rich means diddly squat if you're a massive tosser. In my humble opinion.
It’s trashy when ppl display their wealth for validation, much better to be humble if rich.
Agreed. Case in point Floyd mayweather
He's not rich.
@@pistolpedro007
I like Floyd. He does not ram his wealth down your throat.
@@williamweb9782 You mean Floyd "Money" Mayweather?
The one in white is still an infant.
Its a large baby grow
Even sounds like one!
It's ok to say hes bald.
He has a lot of nerve wearing white on his period.
Poor Wes. He's so brittle and easily triggered. He doesn't realise that even his massive body, that he has obviously spent SO many hours on, is a sign of weakness.
A guy like him will not last one day in construction
A lot of body builders had self esteem issues. And if you notice, many body builders are flat footed, so have had trouble being an athlete
@@Cooldaddymon I think there's some value in keeping yourself sensibly strong and fit but that whole roided-up nonsense is a different ball-game. And it's much more about insecurity and fear and weakness and self-esteem issues.
@@Cooldaddymon when I was in high school in the seventies there was a guy that had bigger muscles then this guy he started to pick on this fat kid and the fat kid beat The living daylights out of him. I also have a friend that was half the size of this guy he would never fight anybody smaller than him. A guy like this with one punch he will knock him out just like Mike Tyson
I'm wondering if he takes steroids. Anyone who has seen weightlifters on steroids in the gym shower knows the effect on penis size. Poor Wes?
Gotta say too, the fact Wes brings it to material wealth with his kids is really telling. My daughters appreciate the work I do, but they don't quite grasp the money associated with it. To them, Daddy works when he puts in effort, when I am doing things, not when I bring home toys.
Like I remodeled their bathroom myself rather than pay someone in order to save money, and I genuinely think my kids connected more with that than had I just cut a check for someone else to do it.
This is so disappointing.
I've heard smarter conversations from 6th grade kids.
It baffles me that any grown man would waste any time attending to this event
Thats why there was only 20 or so in the audience.
The Same Reason that they’ll Waste their Time and Money Attending Sports Venues.
I wouldn't know this event existed if it weren't for right here, now. Complete waste.
You saw grown men there? Where?
@GABRIELADAWSON Probably want to learn to restrict your use of capital letters before making nonsensical comparisons with spectator events. Those Romans were clueless.
In my opinion an Alpha Male wouldn't even be on that stage.
You are 100% correct.
As a sigma myself I agree.
Alpha sales guy. All sales guys think they are the best at sales, not realising the rest of us really don't care.
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LOL. Oh dear.. 🤦🏼
Dad guy: "Do you usually attack armed men in Florida?"
Bald guy: * *quickly sits down and lowers voice* *
😂🤣😅
Yeah I don't understand that one either.
he implied he was armed so if he was attacked he would defend himself with a gun.
He's forgetting this isn't prison 😅
@@paultenhout2446 He basically just told him to sit down and not come any closer or he'd end up like Trayvon Martin.
Bullying is a weakness. He's weak, why attack a person's appearance? Play the ball not the player.
I was always told not to throw stones in glass houses. You can't mock someone's appearance when you look like a badly drawn caricature of Right Said Fred.
He avoided every single argument to just get personal...like a school ground bully...what a bore and if you think that guy is someone you want to be then your parents failed raising you.
...and tries to get up in his face, threatens violence. Guy struggles to use his words, and can't even form a coherent rebuttal, all he has is ad hominem. Trying to think on the fly is asking way too much of Turbo here; all he has is a trick-bag of pre-prepared talking points that are absolutely correct in his mind, and there is no other perspective.
@@masondegaulle5731 are you trying to argue that the so called alpha is the one coming off well here and whatever the hell a turbo is just looks weak and prepared? You are one of those guys whose a sheep! Easily led by idiots 🤣
Sounds like trump, acts like trump
I learned a long time ago, anyone who has to announce he is in charge, is not.
What's more disappointing is that none of the others has the courage to tell the loudmouth he'd said enough and to sit down.
But they did encourage the other guy with their laughter, you could see they thought he was a dimple.
The humor of the situation briefly overtook their cowardice.
Great points. My partner has a good disconnection saying at times:
“I don’t believe this conversation is productive any longer we can come back to it later.”
"You usually attack ARMED men in Florida?"
Andrew de-escalated everything with just that statement.
You knew he was really packing too.
It's even more amusing when you realise that Mr. Roid rage can't potentially legally carry as he's a felon 🤣🤣
Dude did get pretty quite afterwards😂😂😂😂 nothing like an equalizer to make a punk show his true colors
Yes
He's armed because physically he's not fit enough to protect himself but yea he did put fear in him with thag comeback
An Alpha man will never humiliate anybody. He's the one protecting from harm to anyone. It has nothing to do with muscles.
Exactly
Some of the baddest dudes I know are 145 lb fighters. In his world, those guys are small and defenseless 😂
Alphas often humiliate people, it's Sigmas who don't humiliate people.
Alphas are a mess, if they have money they will loose it
I’m impressed. I made a comment then read this. We’re on the same page. With power comes responsibility ..
My definition of success is to be known as a man of character, integrity, and honor.
"He's a good man."
"He's a trustworthy man."
"He's a man of integrity."
"He is a man of honor."
"You can always count on him."
"I trust him with my life."
When people are saying these things about you - to third parties - you are a successful man.
Doesn't matter how many tattoos you have or if anyone can figure out what they are.
You've made the only comment in this section that I agree with wholeheartedly.
If you think people are gonna go around thinking and stating how a good lad you are, people don't do that.
@@denisrivarola2387 - I feel sorry for you that you believe that. I've known multiple men who were, and continue to be, spoken of very highly even after their death. I hope my legacy is like those men.
Men like this are the bottom of society, and everyone takes advantage of them. This is a life that society punishes, not rewards.
@@ShawnKitchenyes, I agree feeling sorry for Denis because it's obvious he will never be spoken about in this way. Perhaps it is because he surrounds himself with others who lack integrity, honor, trustworthiness etc.,
His mouth had so much traffic in jail that it has become very loose, so he can't even shut up if he wanted to😂
I love the idea of his kids encountering this video 10 years from now, and seeing how their dad had a tantrum and barely said he loved his kids more than a car.
Did he say that? I don't think he even did.
All i gotta say, is that has to be a GOOD ass car to get away with that one, and seeing baldies fashion choice, i know whatever he picked isnt it lmao😂
And that's the best he could come up with.
Sadly the chances are, they will grow up to be like him
Dude in white is a large child
An utterly undeveloped, out of control child.
And he has the nerve to insult another person.
"Rudeness is a weak man's imitation of strength".
Eric Hoffer
The bald guy on the left wearing all white. He may just be the poorest person I know because all he has is money. He doesn’t seem to grasp or even attempt to understand a worldview that doesn’t put physical strength and material possessions as telltale signs of success. It’s not about being wealthy; it’s about doing the best you can with what you have. It’s not about having gigantic muscles; it’s about trying to be healthy to describe yourself and others. He is threatened by the other guys worldview, which is truly indicative of the bald guys insecurities. People with true power and success don’t need to show or tell you that they have these things.
A real man doesn’t need to tear down or berate or insult his fellow man to make himself feel like a man. All of us real men were out here in the real world busting our asses so he could go to prison and watch free TV and get a free meal and workout and play drop the soap with his fellow inmates.
The big guy was a total douche bag. Too bad the other guy started to insult him back instead of just sticking to his values.
@@DeadEnduro When you're arguing with a moron, you don't make intelligent arguments. He will not understand you.
Instead, you hit him where it hurts. It worked here.
@@Tigermaster1986Did we watch the same thing? Dropping to Mr. Clean's level didn't work. He should have stuck to the high road rather than slinging mud with a man child
You do realise, your second sentence negates your first one, right?
The confidence of Andrew alone makes him twice the man Wes is.
Unfortunately the society we live in now will reward Wes Watson more for his antics than Andrew for his insight and intelligence.
@@jaybird2148
Yes, you are correct, as evidenced by all the idiots in the crowd that showed up for this nonsense. You couldn’t pay me to go to such an “incel convention”.
@@jaybird2148
If that is the case how sad is that? I think most comments here amount to wes being a big kid.
@@jaybird2148That is exactly what I would've said.
Apparently, it's backed up by a gun. Not real confidence. Wes, however, is just stone cold stupid.
Dude forgot to exercise that muscle in between his ears.
Been skipping brain day.
LOL
brain isnt a muscle but more like bag of fat.. dunyou have the same excercise routine?
@@bulkpaq4713Most people have neeurons in their brain
cant excercise what he didnt have
What's a real man? Some people will say that a real man does not have to go to prison before he can develops a livable code outside of prison, goals, aspirations, standards, jail house upper muscles while always missing leg day exercises and the ability to discuss different views and topics in a adult and calm manner without attempting to bully, over talk and making attempts to threat his or her counterpart.
Wes has more than just a checkered past. He did 10 years in prison, something he's very proud of, for a multitude of crimes.
He is an example of a manchild that destroyed his own family and community for short term financial gain and street rep.
He is the absolute last person anyone should listen to for life advice.
Wait why would he be proud of having done 10 years in prison ? That makes no sense. I did a couple years in a state prison. I can understand being proud of doing a certain crime to end up in prison but not being proud of actually having been in prison for some time which obviously sucks big time and it’s embarrassing. Prison signifies failure, even if you okay with being a criminal it signifies that you failed as a criminal, You got caught and a were locked up like a bitch. Did he refuse to snitch on someone or something ? I can understand a criminal being proud of that I guess. I have no idea who he is but maybe he’s proud of having overcoming prison and rising above it... unfortunately he still seems like an asshole though.
It is sad he thinks "real men go to Prison."
Apparently insecurity is the leading characteristic of self-proclaimed alpha males. Self-awareness and humility are like kryptonite to fragile egos.
Insecurity is what causes most of these guys to lift weights in the first place. They want to intimidate people with their size.
@@LuckyCharms777A lot of roided out gym bros were bullied hard and could never fight back. I've heard this coming from them in videos and reading about their past. These people are trying to hide their fear.
They call themselves alpha males to overcompensate for actually being the OPPOSITE of an alpha male. Deep down inside, baldy knows he's a coward.
Wes Waston lies about how much he makes. This man is worth nowhere near 90 million. It is stupid to even repeat that.
I Googled his net worth, only 1.7 million
I have 0 million so I can't make fun but to claim 90 million and be off by basically 88 million is hilarious in and of itself
@@molanlabe5868 this man suffers from insecurities. nobody really cares about how much money the next man has. then this man wears pants with no knees in them. like I did when I was 8 years old.
Yep his true net worth is around about $2 million, and has nothing to show for it, he has to rent kids to pretend to have a family, and hangs around with desperate penniless mothers to do so.
Hope the irs looks into him 😂
The family man is the man in this argument. He’s the man most women would love to marry. Working together for the family.
crowd full of lost boys looking for a father to guide them.
I think it was Billy Carlson who once said that the majority of churches are filled with people who lack the presence of a father figure in their life.
Damn... perfect analysis.
And in this Fresh and Fit failed them.
Profound
Mom alienated dad
I wish Andrew would've pushed the, "which is worth more, your Bugatti or your children" question.
Neither, dude's ego is clearly the most important thing in his life ...
wrong take, it is given that these men love their families, this is a debate between successful men, the soft guy was bing evasive and gave a sneaky answer, that implied he was ashamed of lack of success. he also lied about no money, he should have been honest about his profession.
They’re not even his children.
@@boshirahmed No, people who love their families, prioritize their families. This guy's ego is his priority. Money and muscles don't = success. I don't see anything soft about the man that you're talking about. It's obvious that the "alpha" man was insecure and lacking in intelligence, and when his ego was hurt he threatened violence because he cant use his words. I hope that you don't look up to that guy because he is a terrible role model.
@@boshirahmed "it is given that these men love their families," You don't know much about people do you?
When you can’t attack an argument you attack the person. That is when you know you have lost the argument.
Just look at how they attack Trump
THAT'S A BETA IN AN ALPHA COSTUME. 😂😂😂
Before this video, I didn’t know any of these panelists exist. Now I need to see if I can forget.
As soon as smaller dude mentions conceiled carry, big dude sat down real quick and had an attitude adjustment. 😂
He calls himself a super hero but can't stop bullets.
@@earth2earl "but im 260 bro"
I don't care how tough you are, you ain't bulletproof 😂
Nobel Prize for Fragile Masculinity goes to Mr Steroid
🤣🤣
The true weakness was everyone else being too afraid to cut in and move the talk forward instead of letting the bald punk take over the entire thing.
"Do you usually attack armed men in Florida?
Bro sat down so quick lmao
"There's no black and white life - it's all gray area" - as he makes black and white statements!
"Only Sith deal in absolutes." Pure hypocrisy. Funny thing to quote here but it's way too fitting 😂
Thank you. You've pointed out what I was going to write down in the comments section.
Yeah that was strange comment there
I caught that too
Imagine "working on yourself" so much and yet having so little self awareness.
Westrogen Watson summed up.
He worked on himself enormously. Do you know how much effort it takes to be a 40 years old man but to act like a 14 years old insecure boy?
when he said that you need to succeed in all areas of life, he apparently decided that you need to become the rudest asshole too 😅😅
My kids couldn't give two shi*s about my physique. They want me to be there to support them when they need me, to be interested in their lives and to provide what they need in life. Me having big muscles isn't something my kids require.
*Edit: Some people seem to assuming that I'm unhealthy. I exercise a lot and my sons exercise with me. Just no need or purpose as far as longevity is concerned in having massive muscles.
Exactly. This is the truth. You are a rare and valuable one.
Yeah but to be honest they do want u healthy not muscular but somewhat fit and healthy
Eat a steak, stickman
I personally saw my dad go from unhealthy, to pretty good shape, and even though I'm in good shape, it made me want to do more.... and proud of him as well... so, definitely something to think about.
@@knightraider1362 You've assumed I'm unhealthy. I exercise everyday and my sons join in with me. We just don't waste time building enormous, silly muscles.
Baldy lost big time. Looked pathetic. He should read up on sigmas.
Because now every bell-end and his dog pretend to be a 'Sigma male'... (Which in reality has alot in common with high functioning aspergers)
There is no such thing as a sigma male. It’s just a name someone came up with for moderately alpha guys.
@@joebrown3569 🙄
If you have to go by a alpha, beta, sigma, blah blah spectrum, you’re not anywhere near the top of that spectrum. Leave that crap for 13 year olds going through puberty rage.
@@jaybird2148 Exactly. Anyone thinking that way is immature and doesn't understand the nuance of life.
They want a 1, 2, 3 rank and to be able to choose the top
Being an asshole does not make you an alpha.
Agreed
At all…… it’s actually the opposite! The peak of alpha is actually a gentleman. Be well fellows, be in control of your emotions
Manhood is not 1 size fits all.
Some men are clearly warriors. Others are priests, poets, philosophers, bricklayers, cooks, etc.
You must consider your gifts, and what is your telos, ie. what would it look like if you developed yourself according to your gifts and nature in order to become your best self?
Part of me becoming my best gift to humanity is to catalyze this in others, and that often means breaking the false assumption that we have to have the same kind of achievements as someone else.
I have no idea what kind of man you are becoming unless I know what kind of man you are.
If your answer for others is always, "I'm right, copy me," then you will confuse people and divert them from their course toward destiny.
As someone's with literally nothing to show for his artistic and intellectual talents, I doubt I'd be able to fulfil my dreams - or rather, delusions - of success.
The host was the saddest part of all. He let his guest be insulted and not halt the conversation when needed.
Yes the conversation needed moderating. They let Wes Watson control the floor for the controversy.
@@fightscience Which shows why F&F aren't interested in a path forward for males. They will wallow in drama for cash and clicks. That makes them pretty feminine IMO.
@@deepzone31 It's all fronting for internet points and a hope they make some money off it
These people they sound really fake with their phony big words to is the ones that sociologists
Steroid monkey
Alpha man is the one who has control over himself and his emotions. Self-control is the ultimate power!!!
people love these black and white statements. just about all cowards have self control.. self control is meaningless on its own
I've seen 210lb men "Cut!" By 140lb men while locked away, due to being a Bully!
What happened?
@davetherave1230 big guy is bully. Big guy gets stabby by other guy.
Agreed. Size doesn't matter, intent matters more.
@@davetherave1230 The bigger man got into an argument with the smaller man, then the bigger man decided to get physical with the smaller man and got cut with a paper clip. I learned that the Criminal Mind can be very ingenious in regards to Self-defense!
@@mixmax6027Gettin' stabby wit it
"Strong minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Weak minds discuss people."
The weirdest thing is that Wes thinks his kids are going to be looking at him through some kind of sexualized lense and making comments on his body. Not if he's a good father or not but how subjectively good he looks when he takes off his shirt. Weird.
Reminds me of trump
or Biden showering with his daughter and sniffing strangers kids.@@lorenzovillegas2457
Wes is so undisciplined he can’t even see his biggest weakness is a lack of self control.
If someone stood up guaranteed he backs down. He’s a clown.
Basically the alpha male is saying "Mommy didn't love me, so I'm gonna compensate the shit out of it, So I don't have to be reminded that I wasn't loved for just being a child". Basic psychology.
Wes is a DSM-5 Personality Disorder, on the classic Overt Narcissist spectrum
Yes I think so.
I think the meathead does pretty well on the diagnostic checklist for NPD and he only needs 5 of these.
1, Grandiose sense of self-importance.
2, Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3, Belief that he or she is special and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people or institutions.
4, Need for excessive admiration.
5, Sense of entitlement.
6, Interpersonally exploitive behavior.
7, Lack of empathy.
8, Envy of others or belief that others are envious of him or her.
9, Demonstration of arrogant and haughty behaviors or attitudes.
empty vessels make the most noise
Mr. Clean needs some stoicism.
He wouldn't how to be stoic if it bit him in the @ss.
"Mr. Clean!" Needs to be more concerned about his own life and his family's well-being than what another man chooses his lifestyle to be!
He needs a damn enema... maybe it'll give him clear view 😂😂
Actually, Mr Clean needs Jesus.
This is so funny & entertaining that I think there should be a round two with these guys on stage together.
Andrew was in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent 😂
It seems that aggressive guy is overcompensating
Exactly
Yep.
Big truck, small wee wee.
Steroid monkey
@@FIGGY65 button.
"alpha dude" is the definition of an insecure bully. Muscles, tats, money and being an asshole does not impress me. This guy is toxic and I hope he learns to realize this and change his ways.
The good thing about it is they identify themselves so the normal people can avoid them. And also I bet this type of people will ever find a woman that loves them, they'll find a woman that wants their money.
That's why they are called alpha. They are feature-incomplete and not mature enough for public release.
Guy is the perfect example of making wealth their identity. Guy talks about being "extraordinary" but take away his money and that's 3/4 of his personality gone, last 1/4 is just all front, person-suit stuff. Reeks of insecurity.
The bully has a very thin veneer covering very big ego. I'm sure his lower lip was quivering when he heard "bald prisoner".
His big, but fragile, ego.