Packard Six Engine Family 525, 415, 241.5, 268.4, 288.6, 237 and 245
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- The highly requested Packard, six engine family episode, Packard would offer the six from 1911 until 1950 with brakes in between starting off with a T head engine and then going to an L head engine
Lots of really cool advertisement pieces in this one as well as information. Enjoy. =)
Special things to Ben parks for digging up a lot of useful information greatly appreciate it. I also also found information from this site which I can’t request it enough. If you have a Packard check this place out.
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"Walk Like A Man" by the Four Seasons. 1963
Yeah buddy congratulations I’ve been waiting forever to use that song I think with packard I’m going to use songs that deal with men or have men in the title or have some sort of because it’s asked the man who owns one and it just ties in
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Congratulations ✌️😊
@@What.its.like. That's a good reason to use that song. And that's two winners for me so far! Not bad. And now I know that I can go up to heaven a happy man, but I still wanna get at least one more winner down the road sometime, so I'll keep watching your videos - which I would do regardless!
=) I was surprised I didn’t get muffled like it generally does, but you did good man
I had a customer who had 2 1926 6 cyl. Packards. Both were 426 series, one was an award-winning roadster and the other a 4dr. sedan. We had to rebuild the roadster's engine. Surprisingly, these engines used roller cams. The person we bought some NOS engine parts from up in Oregon said that the roller cam engine didn't come out until 1927. Both of these Packards were numbers-matching and had their original engines. These engine used copper head gaskets, which were re-usable. The cast iron head was removable. The cast iron block was cast in one piece with the cylinders. The crankcase was cast aluminum and the oil pan was also cast aluminum.
The sedan came out of a museum in Indiana and was said to be running and driving. It wasn't. Some of the valves were stuck open, having obviously been that way for years and the engine wouldn't turn. Luckily, the spark plug holes were large enough that we could spray penetrating oil on the valve stems. We could also stick a large screwdriver through the spark plug holes and pry the valves closed. We also poured ATF into each cylinder filling them. After a week of soaking, and breaking the engine free, the engine would turn easily and smoothly using the hand crank. Now it was time to free up the valves. We had already been spraying the open valves with penetrating oil. Cranking the engine also opened all the other valves, which also stuck open. Continuing to spray each vave over a few days with penetrating oil, we started pushing each valve closed with the screwdriver. After doing this multiple times, the valves would close on their own.
After draining the oil pan, refilling it with the proper 30W non-detergent oil, putting the spark plugs back in, fresh gas in the tank, adjusting the ignition points, pouring some of the fresh gas into each priming cup, we got the engine to start. It ran so smooth and quiet that the only indication that the engine was running was the spinning fan and a quiet putt-putt from the exhaust. The engines were bolted solidly to the frame. One of the reasons that the engine was so smooth and quiet was because the multiple clutch disc and flywheel probably weighed over 100 pounds. We would use a cherry-picker to pick-up and move around, also using it to install the flywheel.
Packard engines were marvels unto themselves. Packard prided itself as being an engineering company and overbuilt everything.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share all that insight and information greatly appreciate it. I was finding that out when doing this episode I got over the years from the Packard Bible but I found out there’s a lot of conflicting information. Some engines are in cars that aren’t supposed to be according to what the book said, but I feel like they probably just started putting engines and whatever car they could. I didn’t know about the roller cam. It didn’t say anything about that but that’s crazy..
In my opinion I think Packard is better than Rolls-Royce.. they have such presence especially when one just glides past you
@@What.its.like. Packards were indeed the standard of the world and equal, if not better than Rolls-Royce. Both brands were engineering companies as R-R aircraft division is today. Packard was better skilled as proven by them improving performance of the R-R Merlin aircraft (and marine) engine during WWII.
Both companies left the coach building to other companies. Packard went to assembly line mass production and at that time moved down to the ranks of Cadillac and Lincoln. Their only coach-built vehicles were professional like: ambulance, hearse and limousines.
Oh, another thing about the 6cyl. Packard engines(and other cyl. configurations as well), the engine bearings, although using steel shells as a base, were individually poured and individually fitted. After the roller cams, the next Packard innovation was when they went to conventional disposable bearings in shells. Other engines as new as the Chevy 235 6 cyl. used poured rod bearings in the rods themselves, though mass-produced and uniformly manufactured and re-manufactured.
That’s great to know thank you so much for that I’m hoping to drive one this year I’ve heard they are the best in terms of balance
Really want a 1939 packard 6 but honestly would take any body style from 1937-1941 in the six
Cool new engine! I remember Lawrence telling me that the cylinder jugs were cast in France and aged outside with some special "sauce" applied, apparently to allow the stress to come out of the metal so they wouldn't distort after machining and use. The 1909 must have had the 4-cylinder engine, Julius said it was 35 or 45 HP. Neat to watch them run with all the oil lifters, like a golden calliope in motion! Thanks Jay for the tour of this fantastic six cylinder engine!! 🎉🚂😊 Packard with hand lapped gears, everything done superbly; simply the best. 🏆
Great information =)
Ferdinand Porsche visited the USA in the late 30s to visit us car plants while planning the new Vw factory. He liked the 6 cyl Packard enough that he bought one.
Awesome information =) thank you so much for sharing that
1928 Packard Roadster; beautiful body styling, plenty of smooth power at hand, and a little better handling. The 26 is very nice also. 😊
Awesome choice =)
1913 Packard model 38 runabout, because I like the feeling of openness, and the low lugging engine has that tractor feel to it. Take a test drive today at your Packard dealer! 🚜 😊 Torque to spare, climbs hills in 3rd gear. ⚙️
Hahaha nice =)
Another interesting episode. I enjoy hearing about early engines. Wow, tough Would You Rather choices. But I'd take the 1912 Packard Model 30 Limo and the 1924 Packard Six Touring and the 1937 Packard 115C Two Door Business Coupe.
Happy you dig this episode awesome choices =)
In the early 1950’s Packard should have focused on the engines and become an industrial engine designer and builder
Learned something again, thank you! WYR: 1913 Runabout, 1928 Roadster, 1949 two door fastback. But honestly, how could you go wrong with any of these? And thank you Mr Parks. ~ Chuck
=) glad you dig this episode it was a long time coming I learned packard made four cylinders
Can’t wait to do the straight eight episode that might be a while yet I think next week will be Buick, Oldsmobile Pontiac 215 v8
Great choices
Thanks for another great video Jay, wow 500+ CI engine just sounds crazy and heavy 😂, for the WYR I’ll take the Turing models because they look impressive and finally the 49 because I’ve always liked that look they remind me of a speeding train from back in the day
Great choices happy you dig this episode =) yeah 525 cid is a huge 6
Ya gotta love that 1940 Packard with the "Chrome Porn" and its graceful, sweeping lines. Only way the pic could be any better would be to park the vehicle in front of some classic "Art Deco" building!
I love Packards really want to own one some day
First Choice WYR all Packards with headlights on top of the fenders 😉❤️
Second choice Packards with headlights in the fenders 😂👍❤️
Ask the gentleman that owns one 🤔
Great Episode
Happy Motoring ✌️🤠
Hahaha awesome I wanna own a Packard one day I really like the 115 C and the 39s sixes.. but realistically, I would take anything that I could get at an affordable price the pre-war cars keep going down and value on one hand it’s super sad that a lot of people from my generation don’t really care for that type of car but I feel like if they experienced it for what it was there’s nothing that compares to one especially in the 30s there are cars that are better but they’re so balanced
@@What.its.like. Technology is lost to time 🤔.. it's an time consuming effort to restore with correct parts and manufacturing non-existent pieces 🧩...
Rat Rods are the short cut for todays builders 😔..
I Compromise on some builds 😢.
Speedsters are period pieces with scraps and imagination 🤔??
I bought a Buick straight 8 drive train from a scrap yard for twice the price per pound and mounted it to a 47 Chevy truck frame,a Pontiac grill and hand made cowling, swap meets and Craig's list back then for under 2200.00 dollars 👍
Projects are out there 👌😊
Start collecting parts and remember!!!!
If you don't take a chance 🤔
You never had a chance 🤷
Happy Motoring ✌️🤠
Hi Jay! More Packard goodness! Kudos to Mr. Ben for providing information for this interesting engine episode! You know it's kind of sad that the Packard 6 kind of gets lost what with all the wonderful twin sixes and the inline eights Packard was so famous for. There's no doubt in my mind that any engine Packard made got the same attention to detail and engineering excellence they were also known for. Those big ole T-head engines were monsters! And heavy too, what with having to have two camshafts and the like. The casting of the cylinder/head units was WIDESPREAD in those days, as you have related. Another advantage of that was being able to make several different kinds of engines with the same castings. Want a cheap car, give 'em a two cylinder. Want something a little more perky? Make a 4. Want something prestigious? How about a six? Gives a company a lot of flexibility. Once Henry Ford came out with the L-head mono-block Model T, though, the T-head's days were numbered. WYR#1 Give me that speedster! SPORTY! #2 Going with the ROADSTER! #3 You really threw me a curve there! Was all set to pick that pretty business coupe when the 1941 pops up!! I'll stay with the Coupe anyway!
Awesome choices. Thank you so much for sharing all that insight. I greatly appreciate it.
It was sort of an ingenious design if you think about it because if you had an issue, you could just replace the jugs instead of replacing the whole block.
War is always a bad thing, but a lot of innovation comes out of it. If you think about it, they were able to figure out how to cast things more proper.
Interesting to see how the displacement went down, yet horsepower and torque went up. Shows how fast the engineers figured out this new-fangled internal combustion thingy. Sad to see how Packard fell from a Cadillac competitor to become a Studebaker in the 50's. WYR= YES!
I’m not gonna lie Packard is one of my favorite brands. People have no idea what quality is especially people that review cars from today. Sometimes I get water when I get in Packards because it was made in America. It was built with love and everything is real and most of all when you try to wash it it doesn’t move lol but that’s most classic cars.
Yeah, it’s amazing How displacement went down but horsepower improved I really like the six cylinder Packard from the 115 C and newer advertisements claim they got 20 miles per gallon which is pretty good all things considered and you could probably switch out the rear end and get better
Great choices =)
I really want to drive a packard this year. I’ve heard that they’re the best balanced car.
Don't care for the engine videos, but like your car videos! Good job anyway!
Packards are awesome, and I can appreciate all of these great automobiles, but
I'd pick the '49 , '40 110, and the '37, in that order.😎
Great choices =)
1912
1928
1937
I’m pretty sure 1948-50 the Six was used only for taxis and export. And after they found their way into White medium duty trucks.
Excellent research!!!
Awesome choices Mark Chandler I believe you’re right because I couldn’t find any information or pictures on those and then I did see something where it said that was used in fleet cars taxi cabs essentially
I totally missed the opportunity to give you a shout out in this video because I got all the information most of the information from the Packard Bible that you gave me
Thank you so much for that book I love it
+That's an astute observation and I believe that you are correct, as all the Packard Motor Company offered to the public during those years was the Standard 8, Super 8, and the Custom 8. Definitely not very attractive cars but sold well at least initially.
I love the '37 coup.
Sweet rumble seat or business coupe
Well done episode very educational, you are so welcome. First choice 1913 Model 38 Packard runabout, second 1921 Packard 6 runabout.
And the 49 Packard 6 fastback.
Awesome choices. Thank you so much again I really appreciate it. We’re going to do the Cadillac four-cylinder as well as the Packard four-cylinder. Eventually I think next week I’m going to try to do the 215 Pontiac, Buick, Oldsmobile, one displacement, three totally different engines
For WYR, it's the 1913 Packard (I like its looks), the 1928 Packard 6 Roadster, and the 1940 Packard 110.
Awesome choices =)
WYR 1: All of them.
WYR 2: All of them.
WYR 3: All of them.
You can never have too many Packards. I'd love to see an episode featuring a Lanz Bulldog tractor at some point. 1-cylinder 2-stroke hot bulb diesel engine that can run at ZERO revolutions per minute, and even BACKWARDS. Try doing that with any other engine you might put in a car of truck and see what happens.
Awesome choices as always. I’ll have to look that up. I’ve never heard of that.
@@What.its.like. It sounds crazy, and is actually crazier to watch.
I like the 1928 Roadster and the 1937 Business Coupe.
Sweet choices
I have a soft spot for runabouts, so WYR it's the model 38, the '24 Touring car, and the sleek '49 fastback. You made mention of updraft carbs, and as usual there was a good reason early cars used them. Flooding was a big problem with early cars as you didn't have a lot of compression or spark power to help you clear it, and the technology of the time didn't allow perfect needle-and-seat sealing for the float. With gravity helping out it was nearly impossible to flood an updraft carb as excess fuel would simply pour out of the carb intake opening instead of going into the engine. Which led to fires if an unwary person lit a match under the hood to see why their car wouldn't start in the dark. It was also more suitable for alcohol fuels which could be made on farms and used as a gasoline substitute, a touted feature of the Model T Ford.
Packard may have stopped making cars, but the company morphed into electronics where it was a leader in technology and a standard for quality there too. It eventually got lost in corporate mergers and spin-offs but is still in fragmented existence under other names, a testament to the lasting value of quality.
Awesome information =)
That 1940 Packard Six looks straight out of Gotham City.
=)
1914 Packard Series 48 Touring, 1928 Packard Six Roadster, 1940 Packard 110 two door Sedan for me.
Awesome choices =)
Ask the man who owns one!
=) love packards
1914 Touring
1928 Roadster
1937 Business Coupe
It was actually Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons, but that would be picking a nit...
Either would do =) awesome choices
WYR Runabout
WYR Touring
WYR Fast back
It is too bad Packard disappeared on us.They did have some nice style .
Great choices I totally agree. They kind of lost their way after the war and then they found their way in 1955 but it was too late if they did what they were doing in 1955 they would’ve stuck around if they didn’t get catfish by Studebaker. They would’ve survived the decade.
It’s super ironic. Packard did not survive the decade because they merged with somebody. Studebaker was way more soft, and Packard was.
And hindsight is always 2020 but what they should’ve did was they should’ve bought out pierce arrow and peerless in the 30s. They could’ve been three peas under one roof.
BTW it's Walk Like a Man, by the Four Seasons from 1963.
Yes =)
Geebs beat you for title
@@What.its.like. yes, I know...by twelve minutes 🤥 oh well....
May NOT alternate intake and exhaust in flathead for example Ford has center two exhausts next to each other (and they overheat)
Thank you so much for that correction should have said in-line L-head motors =)
@@What.its.like. lots of inline flatheads have paired intake and/or exhaust ports Two exhaust valves next to each other do not cool well I'm trying to remember how my Nash flathead and Chrysler were Time to go to bed ASk the man who owns one
1949 packard 6 2 door fastback
Awesome choices =)
Big girls don't cry --Frankie Valley and the 4 seasons ?
You were on the right track it is not that song
ask the man that owns one
=) they were an awesome company sucks they didn’t make it
Torquie engine!
Limo- Runabout --Fastback
Awesome choices =)
The T-head diagram is a misnomer. The camshafts have to run parallel to the crankshaft. (And I'll take the 1924 touring.)
Thank you so much for that correction I couldn’t find a diagram that worked the best. This was the best visual representation I could find.
Sweet choice
HUH? T head, L head, they are all standard nomenclature for engine design. The drawing shown is a bit strange as it would only be practical for a single cylinder engine as the valves are aligned with the crankshaft instead of being either side of the piston. I assume that the drawing was done to demonstrate a T head with one cam. The T head had advantages over an L head or side valve because it was a cross flow design and could use bigger valves.
I DID NOT TUNE IN TO HEAR BAD NOISE LAUGHING CALLED MUSIC AND TO SEE A 1950S PICTURE ON THE SCREEN LIKE WE USED TO HAVE AT 10PM WHEN THE TV STATION STOPPED BROADCASTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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