Packard twin six engine family
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- Today one what’s its like packard twin six engine family.. background history and overview of an awesome piece of vintage auto technology enjoy this episode, if you’ve had the pleasure of owning one of theses please share your experience in comment section
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And Packard 12 👍😉
Yeah buddy great choice and you got the song right out of the gate =)
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Small bore, long stroke, low compression by modern standards = incredibly smooth and tons of torque. Must have been a very pleasant car to drive.
Some of these cars were renowned for their ability to pull smoothly from almost a full stop back to road speed while being left in high gear and not using the clutch. Probably the ability to pull from extreme low RPM was sort of a labor saving means in the days before any kind of automatic transmission or "liquid flywheel" had arrived
Hi great work! If you are interested a fun topic could be classic V-12 car engines later used in famous fire trucks i.e. Pierce Arrow V12 used in Seagrave fire trucks for many years, and the Auburn v12 used (I think) in Lafrance trucks. Also,the Packard 6 used in smaller White trucks well into the 1950s and the Nash 6 used in Divco delivery trucks. Thanks for the shows!
One day we will do pierce arrow 12 =)
Great vid, really enjoyed!!! 👍👍
Bravo! It' great to see someone put the V12 into its' historical economic context. And I'm going with the Packard. Yeah, there were other V12 makers, but you're right- nothing was as smooth and the Packard engine- and wow... what a tale you have to tell about Merlin!!! I'm so thankful my channel doesn't cover WWII stuff and I can just sit back, relax and see the results of your work. Again, well done, Jay!
Glad you dig this episode =) going to cover all of packards engines especially the big v12 used in the war liberty in wwi and Merlin in wwii anytime I heard Merlin it gives me goose bumps
I believe the Packard V12 was far more powerful than Lincoln's although Lincoln may have had more than one design and/or shared an engine with large Ford over the road trucks
If you don't know what a packerd is ....that's like back to the future but nobody knows what deloren is or smokey an the bandit but no one knows what Coors beer is.... Great video 👍👍👍
Another great overview of a once-well known engine family. Thank you, Jay -- I learned a lot.
Glad you dig =)
Great video! Cadillac did eliminate the V-12 but kept the V-16 until 1940. Cadillac discontinued their original OHV narrow V V-16 in 1937 but started using a newly developed 135 degree L-head V-16 in 1938 through 1940. The Packard V-12 was a much more technically developed engine and during WWII, Packard under license from Rolls Royce, built the Packard Merlin V-12 aircraft engine and the V-12 twin super-charged marine engines used the the PT Boats. Packard really knew how the built engines!!
With all their V12 experience it is unfortunate that Packard didn't bring out a downsized Merlin for their cars after the war. This sure would have beat Caddy & Olds to the draw.
I hindsight I wish packard would have merger with peerless and pierce arrow could have been three Ps one roof
I wish they would have made a down sized version of the Merlin v12. Packard lost their way after wwii
They were well known as the "Master Engine Builders".
The 1st 12 cyl was in a 1915 packard and you are right, called twin six. In 1916 minor changes and when released it was such a hit packard had to hire extra security for the large amount of people interest. There is a video of a 1915 twin six model 125 on youtube to prove this. I own a 1925 packard 8 limo that does have the fuelizer to help the poor fuel quality that the fuelizer has a spark plug to ignite the fuel to warm it and burn any water in the 20 cent a gallon gas.
Cadillac V12 was probably the most modern with OHV, but forgot that with their V8. Packard probably had the best engineering, but was behind the times.
It another subject for another day, but in WWII, Packard was able to put it's best foot forward, showing it's engineering expertise when building the Merlin V12 engines.
Lincoln was furthest behind.
Lincoln seemed to have the most vulnerable design.. overheating issues
I know I might be nudging the bear with a stick. Today's "Would you rather" choices leave me with no choices, period. These motors (especially the early ones) could get problematic and expensive to repair. It's kinda like a hybrid car - eating a "Big Mac" then chasing it down with a diet coke. Amazing power can be had with just 4 cylinders today. You can even make 300 horsepower out of a vintage straight six Chevy. Packard made other cars that were really cool!
Packard made a lot of chasis for independent coach builders. Those were the best looking.
Question 1 - yes! 👍🏻
Hi Jay!: Good overview of the Packard Twelves! You are SO right! During that era, Packard made the BEST LOOKING cars! Would for sure go the Packard Twelve over the others!!
Glad you dig this episode
I can’t wait maybe we will get to feature some of those Packards on the channel
I'll take the Cadillac V-12, Keep the engine histories coming, and maybe do some automatic and manual transmission family series down the line, and the 1960's GMC V-6 truck engine family including their mighty 702 V-12 truck engine and the Buick V-6's.
Nice car and interesting engines. Best wishes 😊👋🐿
Thanks for another great video and count me in for a Packard v12 any day
I’m a huge fan I wish I could have found a wee bet more information
Without a doubt, I'd prefer the Packard V12.
My family used to own a 1916 with the non detachable heads (untill 6 years ago) smooth and powerful, easier to drive than other makes of the era because of the torque you hardly have to change gears. There is a video of it on my channel.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience =)
Send me the link and I’ll check it out
Elco PT boats had three 12-cylinder Packard gasoline engines generating a total of 4,500 horsepower for a designed speed of 41 knots.
One day we will cover that engine
Excellent!
Very informative video. I learned a lot. Good job.
Awesome glad you dig this video =)
Thanks young man, good job.
Glad you dig this episode =)
Without a doubt my choice is the Packard B12. As I said before in comments here on your channel I love Packard's and I don't think they ever made a car that was ugly. Sad they didn't survive.
B12, huh? Interesting piston configuration.
@@20alphabet should have been V12 I recently had surgery for arthritis in my thumb so I'm kind of one-handed right now till that heals up I'm a pretty crappy typer with two hands let alone one LOL
They made an engine called b12 it was aircraft engines
@@What.its.like. Not to mention the famous Rolls-Royce Merlin V12 which they made under license during WWII. IIRC Packard made over 50,000 of those
Yes that’s an engine for its own episode
Outstanding as always, and thank you as always! Choice - I would only take the Cadillac V12 if it was the OHV version, otherwise, it’s always the Packard. Thank you also Mark for the gift to all of us. ~ Chuck
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The Cad V12 was OHV, but it was smaller than the Packard V12 and had less power and less torque.
Czar Nicholas II and his brother both drove a Packard twin 6.
Hey buddy I'm catching up on your videos.
Packard!
Thank you, Jay. I never heard of the Twin Six until now. And I'll chose the Packard 12.
Awesome =)
Great job Jay, a good balance of details and general stats for the twin sixes! Packards had the best smooth running engine, Duesenburgs had more power but were rougher and built more for speed and a higher price range. Neat to see all of the old images, and how different the engines were over those years.
Glad you dig this episode =) going to do the Duesenberg engine as well one day
HP is one thing but those big cars needed torque numbers to get them rolling. I wonder what the torque was for the V 12 engines.
I would love to get a Packard 120!😉
Hell I’d be find with a 115C six cylinder
@@What.its.like. me too!😁
Would you rather: Packard V12, silly.
As much as I'd love to have the Packard V12, I did a lot of work on a '31 Cadillac V12 roadster, and that engine really grew on me. OHV, very strong, quiet and smooth. Honestly, any prewar V12 made in the US is a stunning choice if you get a chance to drive one. Best reason to have the Packard V12 is it's in a top end Packard though, only one of the world's finest cars.
Awesome insight =)
I have to say the Packard v12
All three please. 😉
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Great presentation on the Packard twin six/V-12 Jay. As much as admire Packards from that era, and especially the 120 model or its equivalent, I would have to go with the Lincoln V-12 engine as I believe that the Zephyr coupe still used a V-12 at that time and up into the early 40's, and that my friend is one tough car to beat!
Glad you dig this episode =)
That Lincoln V12 was a much smaller less powerful engine that the V12 in the K series Lincolns. The first generation, 1936 - 41, was not an outstanding engine. It suffered from inadequate water pumps, too small an oil pump, weak connecting rod caps, and hot running. The post-war version, (1942 -48), was much better, but the reputation lingered.
@@jamesbosworth4191 I thank you for that insightful bit of information. I would have liked Ford to have kept that Zephyr name in the '46-'48 66H Series models as they were essentially the same design as the pre-war Lincoln V-12 and with only 130hp appeared to have the same weak V-12 engines. The K Series engines were definitely a bit stronger at 150 hp, although the cars were quite a bit bigger too having a wheel base of 136 in.
@@8176morgan Not only more horsepower, but much more torque - 312 lbs. ft. @ 1800 RPM vs about 220 - 225 lbs. ft. @ 2,000 RPM. The K engine was 414 cubic inches, and cubic inches is what generates torque.
Good history. Hey Justin...are you ever going to do old Japanese cars?
Yes plan on it =)
Why? The Japanese destroyed our auto and steel industries.
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I’m hoping to cover at least one packard 12 this year I also meant to change the song oh well =)
Crossfire, srv. Packard
445.5 V-12 engine: ~3.9x4"=~48ci./cyl x 12= 576ci (9.44L); ( maybe the B x S specs here are wrong)
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Stuck between Cadillac and Packard
Cadillac V12 please
One of each
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Did any version of the Packard V12 outrun the Cadillac V16 models?
(Only 4 main bearings doesn't sound like enough but maybe Cadillac was weak in this area also?)
Did Ford increase the main bearing count from 3 to 5 during the history of their "flatty" V8 ?
Is it a mistake that the "Y block" modern Ford OHV V8 only had 3 main bearings?
Packard
Packard >>> Rolls Royce. Rolls don't even come close IMO. Packards are elegant, not stodgy and pretentious
Totally agree