*Armchair Linux nerd observation time*: When you were (trying to) copy over the 2nd-gen's hard drive image, you missed a _tiny_ little detail. At 9:27, you can see a tiny little 34 MiB partition at the start of the iPod. That there partition is the iPod's OS partition, and as you might imagine, a _touch_ important to make it boot. I'm reasonably sure that if you'd imaged that tiny partition to the SSD, it might have booted up just fine. But since Disk Utility is a useless pile of shit and hides that OS partition, you had no real way of knowing that. Oh well, whatevs. Great video either way, looking forward to the Rockbox experience later. ;)
Oh yeah, and the reason you couldn't resize the iPod partition in GParted is because you'd installed the tools for HFS, and not HFS*+*. Just for future reference, GParted will straight-up tell you what it supports, and what you need to install to add support, if you open it up and head to View > File System Support.
Actually it's not correct. By creating a 34MB firmware partition and writing the firmware image into it, my iPod Gen 2 10GB Mac version works perfectly with a 64GB Compact Flash card with a CF card to IDE 50pin adapter.@@michaelepica3564
Ian, we are kindred spirits. God knows how many times I've tried something "simple" and had to spend hours or days trying to fix the stupidest shit I break along the way
Hey guys, druaga1 here... let's begin, yes! About time there's a new vid. 57 likes, 513 views and 0 dislikes. Legend. Nothing better than a cup of Druaga, man.
To print the progress in dd, find the process id number (pid) with "ps aux | grep dd", then run "kill -SIGINFO ", which will make the dd command spit out the current progress in bytes. Also, when running dd, add "bs=1M" to speed it up a LOT.
druaagaaaaaa. *nix-style command line utilities have a verbose option! it's just not on by default, because a lot of them existed back in the day of teleprinters, and people didn't wanna waste paper and ink on status updating stuff. usually it's -v
HOnestly I prefer long videos, I play a lot of games where I can turn the audio off and I like to watch youtube off to the side. on my 2nd monitor. Longer videos means I'm ALT-TABBING out of game less often to find a video. Also for the screen, I dunno whats causing the blueish thing going on, maybe it has to do with White balence settings on the screen or camera, but the lines on the screen could be the back lights flickering or strobing. I do believe some screens do this to enhance the refresh rate, or give you a false refresh rate that seems higher then the LCD really is.
sample I already had it ordered and I am just waiting for it to come :D It was only $40. Here's a link, if that's helpful. www.amazon.com/Apple-MA079LL-Generation-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B000932AKQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1474826779&sr=8-2&keywords=ipod+classic+4th+generation
I know this is old, but the proper name of the commands is "Data Duplicator"... Also, add status=progress to the end of your dd command to see the progress of what it's done so far. Extremely useful!
Why using cat? You can just du 'pv /dev/yourdisk > output.img' (you might need sudo) more deatails for pv: wiki.ubuntuusers.de/pv/ Useless use of cat: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_%28Unix%29#Useless_use_of_cat
You inspired me to do an SSD iPod 5th Gen. I used a mSata -> Zif adapter, i struggled, i used the wrong size battery cracked the screen, had the Zif board upside down... but finally got it. thanks!
Druaga, next time you need to use dd, you can put status=progress at the end of a dd command (like "sudo dd if=/dev/sdg of=/home/druaga/ipod.img status=progress"), and it will show the progress during a copy/imaging.
hye i think the issue with the older iPod was that it may not have 'liked' the chipset that your SSD used. I have a similar issue with the original xbox - i have a controller i modded to accept USB media in place of the memory card, so i can softmod them to have XBMC4Xbox installed. Unfortunately, only 1 out of 8 USB drives that i had on hand would work with the Xbox (surprisingly, it's a Nexxtech 2 gig i bought at The Source a few years back). It's probably why it worked with the newer iPod. that's awesome, by the way! now you need a controller to dock it into like that dude in that video ;)
You know what's weird is I stumbled upon druaga high as hell... I'm a producer but I know fuck all about computers, something about this guy listening to him while I pass out is kinda relaxing
Same length videos, whatever is fine. I like em long. (har har) I think most of your viewers, like me, keep watching because you do the long format, non-truncated videos. You still edit them concisely, it's not like there's a bunch of dead space.
Your video length is perfect. Also, I'm sure you got this 1000x over already, but when using dd if you specify a block size the transfer is much faster. for example bs=1024
Dang I don't know then, I have a 5th Gen iPod which I still have on an HDD because of how odd it is to upgrade to an SSD. I do appreciate your that you are willing to keep trying despite how many times you have failed. Also the Apple Partition Map doesn't allow you to resize while it is "being used" which is why I am happy apple switched from it. I wis my 5th gen supported that connector so I could have a 128ish gig SSD in it.
clay_ Actually Rockbox labels the iPod as the root directory for some reason, Also all it would do is add files to your root directory that could be easily deleted.
You can't flash mode on iPod 1st and 2nd gen because the FireWire controller not compatible. But you can do it with the 4th gen because it use USB controller so it compatible.
If you have the newest dd util you can pass status=progress to view the progress of the image. It was recently added. E.g. $ sudo dd if=/dev/sdg of=/home/druaga/ipod.img status=progress
When you edit in text, could you make it appear longer than a second on screen? It's not fun having to go back and pause the video just to see it. Also, congrats on making it work through all that trial and error. In addition to that, GParted tells you what plugins it needs for specific filesystems, I found that out after playing with it for a little while (Was given an exFAT formatted flashdrive by my dad, couldn't figure out why it didn't work with my Fedora laptop).
youtube has cards you can put in the corner look in the video settings where you find the description and other junk also can't wait for you to put rockbox on it
13:55 Mebbe not the best idea to have a connector with open metallic parts (including power) sitting on a metallic (most likely conductive) surface? Also did someone not mention in a previous video that your firewire card needs an internal power connector (most likely floppy type) ?
Holy shit. Congrats man. I was dead sure you wouldn't manage it and seeing it happening, getting detected and fully working... mindblown. Also. I prefer shorter videos.
What happened in GParted with the 4th gen iPod was that you selected hfs (not hfs+) which has a maximum capacity of 4 Gigs or so. Using hfs+ with linux requires the package 'hfsprogs' (part of ubuntu's 'universe' package source). Hope that helped...
@druaga1 why dont you hook up the old ipod hard drive to the linux machine and clone the disk to the ssd? then youd keep the same formatting and the recognizability of the drive then you can just expand the volume later
Druaga1, try using the dd command on Mac OS X. It should behave the same way, just use it from the terminal and clone the whole device like you did on Linux.
My best guess is that it didn't work on the 2nd gen iPod because the firmware doesn't allow anything higher then the maximum size apple was offering. So since 20GB was the maximum size apple offered, that's the maximum size the firmware will accept a hard drive for. However my guess could only be valid for the 2nd gen only, since I found out the maximum size apple offers for the 4th gen is 40GB and since you successfully installed it in a 4th gen iPod, so this may be all invalid statements. But I guess this answer I found on a thread regarding the exact same problem might be able to help you. This is what I found on that thread: The problem you face here is not only finding the HD but one that will fit within the limited space within your iPod.IDE HD's which the iPod used are not being made any more and IDE SSD are very rare.The problem you face is the size of the back case the larger drives are higher in height and the back shell was made larger to support the bigger drive on the newer models.So on the most part you're stuck putting the same or smaller drive in.
29:40 -- Blue due to white balance (color is measured in ####K (degrees Kelvin, for some crazy-ass reason), but, there's likely why), in addition to exposure for the brightness. Wavy lines due to refresh / 'vsync' of monitor compared to the FPS of the camera. XP Hopefully that makes sense, haha, awesome to see success on this.
This is like my favorite series on your channel drauga. Can you install a gaming graphics card on an apple 2 next? Really though, This series is awesome
![Installing an SSD in a G4 Cube [Part 1]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3zeUBTpvpF4/mqdefault.jpg)
![Installing an SSD in a G4 Cube [Part 1]](/img/tr.png)
![Installing an SSD in a G4 Cube [Part 2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/OvWjIk4bkhk/mqdefault.jpg)
*Armchair Linux nerd observation time*:
When you were (trying to) copy over the 2nd-gen's hard drive image, you missed a _tiny_ little detail.
At 9:27, you can see a tiny little 34 MiB partition at the start of the iPod.
That there partition is the iPod's OS partition, and as you might imagine, a _touch_ important to make it boot.
I'm reasonably sure that if you'd imaged that tiny partition to the SSD, it might have booted up just fine.
But since Disk Utility is a useless pile of shit and hides that OS partition, you had no real way of knowing that.
Oh well, whatevs.
Great video either way, looking forward to the Rockbox experience later. ;)
Oh yeah, and the reason you couldn't resize the iPod partition in GParted is because you'd installed the tools for HFS, and not HFS*+*.
Just for future reference, GParted will straight-up tell you what it supports, and what you need to install to add support, if you open it up and head to View > File System Support.
No it wouldn’t. 2nd gen iPods cannot detect anything higher than 20 gigs
Actually it's not correct. By creating a 34MB firmware partition and writing the firmware image into it, my iPod Gen 2 10GB Mac version works perfectly with a 64GB Compact Flash card with a CF card to IDE 50pin adapter.@@michaelepica3564
This is my new fav anime series
THERE IS A PART 3???
Here is part 3
PART 420
+ToperMasterComedy no, get out.
I KNOW I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!!
yea first 2 video's ended in a fail lol
Ian, we are kindred spirits. God knows how many times I've tried something "simple" and had to spend hours or days trying to fix the stupidest shit I break along the way
Part 4, WE NEED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!! Seriously though, if you make this work you will be my favorite youtuber.
Already in my top 10 though btw
***** on a 4th gen, not second gen
I vote for the longer vids! I love seeing you go though the same kind of struggles I go though when I do a project.
Hey guys, druaga1 here...
let's begin, yes!
About time there's a new vid.
57 likes, 513 views and 0 dislikes. Legend.
Nothing better than a cup of Druaga, man.
Never shorten your videos! It's more enjoyable to see the whole process instead of just parts of it!
15:05 "Most of my problems are user error."
Story of my life.
"Welcome to your new iPod!"
[Sees fancy iPod touch and iPod nano on the side]
"My iPod's not _that_ new..."
My favourite line of the series :P
Victor Tran? 😅
@@jaydenridley4 Hello!
ill be dammned first druaga password that is not related to weed XD
I think this is also a more serious installation. For Installations i don't REALLY care about, my Password Is most likely my Username
@@leberkassemmel Lemme guess, your pwd is "admin".
To print the progress in dd, find the process id number (pid) with "ps aux | grep dd", then run "kill -SIGINFO ", which will make the dd command spit out the current progress in bytes.
Also, when running dd, add "bs=1M" to speed it up a LOT.
Or do status=progress at the end of the command to get a percentage and time estimate
"Were solid state so we can shake the fuck out of it"
Extremely happy for you. Now I'm off to eBay to snag an iPod photo. I felt your pain in the previous videos, but celebrate your victory.
druaagaaaaaa. *nix-style command line utilities have a verbose option! it's just not on by default, because a lot of them existed back in the day of teleprinters, and people didn't wanna waste paper and ink on status updating stuff. usually it's -v
I like your album Ian, good job!
HOnestly I prefer long videos, I play a lot of games where I can turn the audio off and I like to watch youtube off to the side. on my 2nd monitor. Longer videos means I'm ALT-TABBING out of game less often to find a video.
Also for the screen, I dunno whats causing the blueish thing going on, maybe it has to do with White balence settings on the screen or camera, but the lines on the screen could be the back lights flickering or strobing. I do believe some screens do this to enhance the refresh rate, or give you a false refresh rate that seems higher then the LCD really is.
I prefer longer videos lol
I prefer longer cocks lol
I prefer longer toast lol
Good for you
i prefer longer limos
FordBoy 332
Like the on Jim Carrey used in The Mask?
Make it so long that you won't even NEED parts! LONGER
You have inspired me to buy an iPod Classic 4th gen and put a CF card into it. Thank you.
same here, stalking ebay for 2 days
sample I already had it ordered and I am just waiting for it to come :D It was only $40. Here's a link, if that's helpful.
www.amazon.com/Apple-MA079LL-Generation-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B000932AKQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1474826779&sr=8-2&keywords=ipod+classic+4th+generation
thanks dude ^^
sample You're welcome :D
Druaga your new album is awesome
I know this is old, but the proper name of the commands is "Data Duplicator"...
Also, add status=progress to the end of your dd command to see the progress of what it's done so far. Extremely useful!
Please don't make the videos shorter!
This is really cool that you got it to working! ;) And I am also happy that the album is free
next time you want to clone a disk WHILE having a progress indication :
_pv /dev/yourdisk > output.img_
You may need to install "pv"
Why using cat? You can just du 'pv /dev/yourdisk > output.img' (you might need sudo)
more deatails for pv: wiki.ubuntuusers.de/pv/
Useless use of cat: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_%28Unix%29#Useless_use_of_cat
Oh I didn't knew you could directy pv the disk.
Thank you.
Fixed.
+
As I was watching, I noticed the video up next was titled "How To Revive An Old iPod".
Fitting.
finally this awesome story is ending well !
Druaga1 videos are all i need to live
Loving the videos man, keep it up! Also have had your new album on repeat for almost 5 hours now, I really like it!
You inspired me to do an SSD iPod 5th Gen. I used a mSata -> Zif adapter, i struggled, i used the wrong size battery cracked the screen, had the Zif board upside down... but finally got it. thanks!
Druaga, next time you need to use dd, you can put status=progress at the end of a dd command (like "sudo dd if=/dev/sdg of=/home/druaga/ipod.img status=progress"), and it will show the progress during a copy/imaging.
This is for me perfect lenght of a video
Man that music just sounds like a quake soundtrack or something I rally like it!
hye i think the issue with the older iPod was that it may not have 'liked' the chipset that your SSD used. I have a similar issue with the original xbox - i have a controller i modded to accept USB media in place of the memory card, so i can softmod them to have XBMC4Xbox installed. Unfortunately, only 1 out of 8 USB drives that i had on hand would work with the Xbox (surprisingly, it's a Nexxtech 2 gig i bought at The Source a few years back). It's probably why it worked with the newer iPod. that's awesome, by the way! now you need a controller to dock it into like that dude in that video ;)
You know what's weird is I stumbled upon druaga high as hell... I'm a producer but I know fuck all about computers, something about this guy listening to him while I pass out is kinda relaxing
Same length videos, whatever is fine. I like em long. (har har)
I think most of your viewers, like me, keep watching because you do the long format, non-truncated videos. You still edit them concisely, it's not like there's a bunch of dead space.
I love your longer videos, they keep me entertained man.
Longer video's is part of the reason I love your videos!
I must say! I like that you upload long videos! Ive been watching all of your uploads and the only channel that i watch the entire video. :)
Long videos and I can't believe you came back for a part 3.
I'm mainly watching these because they're relaxing.
Your channel is growing so fast!
yo gratz on the new ipod ssd man keep the vids long!!
Your video length is perfect. Also, I'm sure you got this 1000x over already, but when using dd if you specify a block size the transfer is much faster. for example bs=1024
I never thought you could get this to work, nice job.
My productivity goes up with your longer videos.
OH GOD I WANT MORE
Dude, that was an awesome video!!! Way to go man!! I've really been enjoying your videos!!
Rockbox + Doom be about it! Oh and make the video 12 hours long!
yeeeey. I was very hyped for this video
this is my favorite Netflix series!
Dang I don't know then, I have a 5th Gen iPod which I still have on an HDD because of how odd it is to upgrade to an SSD. I do appreciate your that you are willing to keep trying despite how many times you have failed. Also the Apple Partition Map doesn't allow you to resize while it is "being used" which is why I am happy apple switched from it. I wis my 5th gen supported that connector so I could have a 128ish gig SSD in it.
I was starting to lose faith. Well played Druaga!
Edit: Nice tune btw
Happy you got it working in the 4th gen after the mess that was the 2nd gen
Finally a strawpoll that agrees with me, long live the length of druaga videos.
Keep the videos long Ian
What's up Red Eye
Hi Red Eye!
Hey Red Eye!!!!
Didn't know red eye watched him....
HI YOU READING THE COMMENT
LONGER! I love your vids :)
I came on Druaga1 to watch some old vids and I find this new one here unannounced by my phone.
Fuck *you* Google. Also, I need some popcorn.
@26:24 A Druaga password that is not weed? MADNESS!
FAKE!!
probably smokeWeed420
a uxwbill and Druaga1 video in one day? My word today is turning out to be awesome lol
This was a fun ride
I'm glad this worked
The reason why your screen has "wavy lines" is because your camera isn't recording at 60fps so it'll show the screen refresh.
That's more about the shutter speed instead of FPS... Not the same
5:08 Did you try opening the Rockbox installer as root?
installing rockbox on / is always a good idea
KlitButter Rockbox installer always lists the older iPods as / for some reason. Always makes me do a double take.
"SSSSHHHHIIIIIIIIIITTT"
-druaga1, probably
next to the mount point it said the drive label was Extra Storage, so its a good thing he wasn't using root or his storage drive would be rip
clay_ Actually Rockbox labels the iPod as the root directory for some reason, Also all it would do is add files to your root directory that could be easily deleted.
Good job. Glad you finally made it. I'll be waiting For the new IPod video to araive.
You can't flash mode on iPod 1st and 2nd gen because the FireWire controller not compatible. But you can do it with the 4th gen because it use USB controller so it compatible.
for some reason, I find your videos very satisfying to watch even if though I have no knowledge in this stuff lmao
If you have the newest dd util you can pass status=progress to view the progress of the image. It was recently added. E.g.
$ sudo dd if=/dev/sdg of=/home/druaga/ipod.img status=progress
at about 3 minutes in he said it should just work... and i paused the video, looked at how long it was, and knew it wasn't going to work
Use guitar picks to pry open these things instead of knives. You can buy those by the hundreds with the thickness and hardness you want.
You can buy phone repair kits on Amazon for pennies, they have plastic spudgers for prising open cases
Billy Reynolds You can buy 1000 picks for the same price of one of those kits.
or you could just use knife you already have... because it doesn't really matter what you use
that_motovlogger_fan_guy_for_ever
When you could potentially damage the plastic, it does.
Crimson Sunrise considering the age of the device in question, wear and tear is expected so its not really of concern
He has finally released part 3 all hell has broke loose
When you edit in text, could you make it appear longer than a second on screen? It's not fun having to go back and pause the video just to see it.
Also, congrats on making it work through all that trial and error. In addition to that, GParted tells you what plugins it needs for specific filesystems, I found that out after playing with it for a little while (Was given an exFAT formatted flashdrive by my dad, couldn't figure out why it didn't work with my Fedora laptop).
agreed
YES , what a fucking adventure . Felt good :'D
More Druaga1 wooooooooooooooooooo!!
youtube has cards you can put in the corner look in the video settings where you find the description and other junk also can't wait for you to put rockbox on it
longer videos, glad you got it working in the end. :)
13:55 Mebbe not the best idea to have a connector with open metallic parts (including power) sitting on a metallic (most likely conductive) surface? Also did someone not mention in a previous video that your firewire card needs an internal power connector (most likely floppy type) ?
Holy shit. Congrats man. I was dead sure you wouldn't manage it and seeing it happening, getting detected and fully working... mindblown. Also. I prefer shorter videos.
You can try adding --help to a command or use man to see the manual page and see if the program has a verbose option.
In honor of this series I'm putting your album on my iPod.
What happened in GParted with the 4th gen iPod was that you selected hfs (not hfs+) which has a maximum capacity of 4 Gigs or so. Using hfs+ with linux requires the package 'hfsprogs' (part of ubuntu's 'universe' package source). Hope that helped...
Long live videos!
Longer videos!!
Glad you got it working. I think you coulda got it working on the 2nd gen ipod but who cares, colour screen and doom ftw!
Best way to pass the time on the train. Can you make a coherent step by step 5 minute tutorial now?!
did you use the ReactOS computer from the ReactOS video and recording DV on Windows XP?
@druaga1 why dont you hook up the old ipod hard drive to the linux machine and clone the disk to the ssd? then youd keep the same formatting and the recognizability of the drive then you can just expand the volume later
Atleast you got it working on newer one :D
Wanna see that doom ssd ipod video :)
Btw nice album (even more when high) :)
Thanks for making it free :)
Love your videos bro keep up the good work 420forever dude and keep up them long videos XD
You did it Druaga1. You installed an SSD onto an iPod.
7:28 It's Mebibytes and Gibibytes, Megabytes and Gigabytes are different. KiB, MiB ang GiB are binary data.
YEEESSSS
I WAITING FOR 3RD PART FOR A LOT OF TIME
YEEEESSSS!
Waiting for the DOOM in iPod 4 vid!
Just keep doing what you are doing.
5:00 you were trying to put that on your drive called "Extra storage" which I guess was your main drive since mounted at the root \
Newer versions of dd support using status=progress as a command line option.
Druaga1, try using the dd command on Mac OS X. It should behave the same way, just use it from the terminal and clone the whole device like you did on Linux.
part... PART 3?!?!?!? OH MY GOD!
oh, and looooonger videos please!
My best guess is that it didn't work on the 2nd gen iPod because the firmware doesn't allow anything higher then the maximum size apple was offering. So since 20GB was the maximum size apple offered, that's the maximum size the firmware will accept a hard drive for. However my guess could only be valid for the 2nd gen only, since I found out the maximum size apple offers for the 4th gen is 40GB and since you successfully installed it in a 4th gen iPod, so this may be all invalid statements.
But I guess this answer I found on a thread regarding the exact same problem might be able to help you.
This is what I found on that thread:
The problem you face here is not only finding the HD but one that will fit within the limited space within your iPod.IDE HD's which the iPod used are not being made any more and IDE SSD are very rare.The problem you face is the size of the back case the larger drives are higher in height and the back shell was made larger to support the
bigger drive on the newer models.So on the most part you're stuck putting the same or smaller drive in.
29:40 -- Blue due to white balance (color is measured in ####K (degrees Kelvin, for some crazy-ass reason), but, there's likely why), in addition to exposure for the brightness.
Wavy lines due to refresh / 'vsync' of monitor compared to the FPS of the camera. XP
Hopefully that makes sense, haha, awesome to see success on this.
The iPod 5 and 5.5 also use ZIF drives. I successfully got a 5.5 working with an SSD a few years ago.
Yes I live for this series!
This is like my favorite series on your channel drauga. Can you install a gaming graphics card on an apple 2 next? Really though, This series is awesome