I think that the forgiveness factor is going to be a huge piece. Especially for the weekend golfer who may not have a ton of time to spend at the range, the leniency of a driver that offers forgiveness without sacrificing distance could be a huge selling point.
Great review Pete! Just notice your Walter Peyton doll on your desk! I’m from Illinois and a die hard Bears fan, so really appreciate that! Keep it up Pete!!
I wasn't expecting it to be much of an improvement, but it does seem to be. Not in speed, but in spin. From all the reviews I've seen it seems to have a very small, consistent spin window. I think that will help the average golfer more than the Pro. I've seen a lot of players hit good drives 280 or more with 2200 spin then 245-250 with 3500 spin. If the low and heal strike spins 2700 max compared to 3500 + it should really help.
I've watched 2 other reviews on the stealth and it's some what the same. The big difference is how it looks at address. Its fun to see the opinions of other golfers. But yours is the one that makes sense to me. Thank you Pete
The thing that scares me is the technology of softball and collegiate baseball bats that use carbon fiber. They have a break in period and the carbon fiber starts to soften giving it the trampoline effect when it hits the sweet spot of BREAK IN . Then once it goes past that sweet spot you get a rapid deterioration of that bounce.
Third video I've watched on this club and I'm seeing a trend: Low, consistent spin Better Dispersion IMO, that's a marked improvement. I don't know how much more distance we can get form the head of the driver but making them consistent and forgiving is the route. Had I not gotten a fitting last year, Id probably buy one of these but ill get one in 2023 lol
Pete with the best review I've seen yet... "It's a good starting point" are words to live by in regards to going stealth off the tee. The Stealth 2 is going to be awesome!!!
I’ve been swinging the SIM Max for two years and it’s the 5th Taylormade driver I’ve owned. I personally haven’t had many problems with lack of forgiveness from the SIM Max. It’s by far the best driver I’ve ever owned. I use to have the Cobra F8 and yes that club can hit absolute bombs but that’s a driver with almost no forgiveness (even though many people claimed it did) swung the SIM 2, couldn’t tell a big enough difference to spend the money for it. Especially that I already had the SIM Max dialed for me. I think the stealth looks nice, but I feel the SIM’s series is still elite compared to other top brand drivers.
Oh it's been a while but here I am Mr Finch. Great job reviewing this amazing club. It looks so classic yet so unique I will say that. Definitely try putting it in your bag and seeing how you do with it. Hopefully you and Rick can have a head-to-head soon in the future who knows. God bless you sir
I snapped my ping g5 driver a couple weeks ago and have been using my dads old 1998 callaway big bertha so i think this will be a suitable upgrade and i love that red face!
Sim to this maybe not but M5/6 or later versions......it makes sense. What I love about TM is that the fitting sleeve is still the same so I can run my favorite shafts into this without an issue. I have the Diamana and the Autoflex with this custom Stealth Plus coming with the Ventus once the customization gets applied and shipped. We will see ! Three wood was a big upgrade for me from the Titleist 917F2
Great review Pete. I think the fact that they've done something so new and it's already comparable, and even marginally better than an established technology, on such a fundamental aspects of the club, is really impressive. That said, are we ready to be the early adopters and pay €600+ for the privilege? Hmmm
Pete, Great video as usual. Two things I noticed ... aside from the red face on the driver. Beautiful rainbow at about 2:48 and ... Check out the Walter Payton bobble head! .... I grew up in Chicago in the 1970's and 1980's and Walter Payton was my (and everyone else in Chicago's) hero. Nice video, brother. 2 thumbs up.
Definitely interested in the longevity of the new stealth. Are we talking a year before the face caves in or is it going to be as durable as a titanium driver
@@lburwell99 yea but that’s like a poly coating. If anything I’m thinking that coating will eventually peel/tear. But will the face hold is the real question. Either way I’m happy for the release, because I just bought a used sim2 in great condition for 270
Interesting new driver from TM. I bought a (fitted) SIM2 last year and saw a great improvement on my 10 year old driver, From everything I am reading, improvements year by year are very small so unless your swing has changed dramatically my feeling is it is not worth looking at replacing a new driver for at least 5 years. I think there might be some amazing deals on SIM and SIM2 drivers out there soon.
Yea I wouldn't worry about it unless a new driver gave you less spin or increased forgiveness. Those sim drivers are serious so you're definitely squeezing your max out of it.
Just got my Sim2 Max for Christmas. Was broken hearted seeing a new Driver released by Taylormade. After seeing your video I don't feel so bad. I am a high handicap and will take any help that I can get. Each of these Drivers are some of the best help someone like me can find.
Great insight into the evolution of the TM drivers. I loved the look of the SIM driver too, but hated the lack of forgiveness particularly in shots off the toe (is that twist face not working for in to out swings?). So after years of playing TM drivers, I swapped out for a Callaway Epic Speed which is so much more forgiving. Not sure Stealth will bring me back to TM, maybe next year? 😎
thanks for the review, especially talking about toe hits. im a feel player with scratch handicap and hate all the data you can look at that ultimately dont matter when it comes to hitting a drive on the course.... its nice to finally see what i thought i felt in the sim with the occasional toe hit actually be significantly bad and they addressed it in the stealth some it seems.
I really like the look of the stealth driver the black and red combo is very striking to me. but the sim2 was also a very nice looking driver especially with the way you could customise the colour of it. TM are always the ones to beat when it comes to drivers and other brands are playing catch up all the time
Great to see a review I can trust Peter, currently using the original sim and waiting for a fitting session in the new stealth [mainly to check out different shaft options and to get away from the unforgiving off centre shots] I can understand your disappointment regarding the muted red I too was hoping for fire engine red, I will be considering the cobalt blue option 😁😁 my main concern for the new design is durability over a couple of years it’s a lot to lose if you cannot get anything back when you upgrade. Keep up the good work 👍👋
Good review Pete…it looks good, only TM Marketing thought it would make a big difference I guess. Really interesting points on the consistency of it vs the others though especially Sim original 👍👍👍
Great informative review Peter; some interesting talking points as always. However I just about spat out my coffee when you mentioned the price [not your fault]. Cheers / Happy New Year
Great video and interesting new club. I have to say, I really liked the subdued sound when struck. What you mentioned, but didn't put numbers to, was the performance on mishits. I would have liked to see the circles on the screen to show the dispersion to get a better idea of what the club did than the average numbers really tell us.
om the sound of the club my first thought was "ooo maybe it will have a more old school wood driver sound". i really like that nice THWACK you get too bad it sounds like it does
Interesting to see how this fairs in the coming months. I have an old Nike ignite 10.5 degree driver and undecided on my next driver! #JammyDriver #TaylorsMadeJam
@@Gattuso_Golf I switched to a g425max from a Titlelist D910. Longer off the tee(I think due to shaft differences. I am not a stiff flex for driver for now) but way more forgiving
If you have an original M2, there is no sense in buying a new driver. Same with the 5 and 3 wood. Those are the best woods ever and still hold up today.
@@el_duderino_man I own and played the M2 for 5 years because nothing could beat it. I did make the change last year to the Callaway Max LS - it was the first driver I demoed that could beat it - by beating it, I mean it has a larger sweet spot - specifically in the Toe - moving the slidable weight very slightly into the toe makes the Max LS just a better driver than the M2 - the original Sim could be longer, but it's so low spinning that misses are brutal
Great video as always Peter! However I will say the way all these new drivers look makes me very glad I bought a Mizuno ST180 online last year. I love my blue driver and I wish there was more individuality in how they made drivers look.
Bag it. Improvement is Improvement. A little is a little. A lot is a lot. At your level I think you've done most of the things that would be considered big gains. I feel like as long as there's not a trade-off or sacrifice from another aspect of your game and you can grab just a little more it's the way to go, i.e. Vice golf balls. Not a huge stride but every little bit helps. Thanks for taking us along.
I've been looking forward to your video on The Stealth. Very interested in this year's tech. After watching the video it seems like a good Gamer for Peter! Look forward to seeing if it makes it into the bag! Thanks Peter! Great video as always!
Good review Peter. If the red colour was more vibrant and popped it would be hard to call the driver Stealth 😁. It is great to see all the newclubz that come out but the cost of all of them is an issue for me and I suspect many others of my age, now I am retired my sole income is from my state pension and here in NZ the cost of this driver would be more than 2 weeks income so really the new clubs are out of reach of many senior golfers. My current driver is an RBZ which I have always been pleased with following my previous R580 and I wonder what sort of gain, if any, I would get from a current model driver.
Out of all of the reviews that come out on the same day, you're the best. I sure wish Taylormade had made the new drivers flashy enough for you! Cheers!
Great review Pete. It's a good starting point with the carbon. On looks the red face imho is too yuppy, throws me of massivly. Are you going to review the new callaway too? And bring back the power board you did last year :)
I played 9 holes with the standard stealth yesterday and it blew me away i have a very slow swing speed around 90 mph and the ball just flew my pkaying buddy said i hit some of the best drives he has ever sern me do as i dont regard myself as a good driver player at all i tend to sway towards 3 wood off the tee this will be going in my bag this season
Having bought the sim2 max D 3 months ago , I won't be rushing out for a stealth!! What I would say though, is that it would be good for 90% of club golfers if you tested the 'D' drivers more ,as that is the model most mid+ handicappers should be going for.
I was lucky when I was out buying a new iron set and driver, a guy from Taylormade were there showing off the driver. It looks absolutely beautiful. I love the head front, but I still prefer the color scheme of the old driver
Unfortunately TM was not the first to bring the Carbon Face driver, as Callaway released a bomber of a driver 2 decades ago in the Callaway C4. That club sounded amazing coming off the face- like a shotgun blast 💥 and went a mile! Great comparison vid though, exactly the info I was looking for!
Love the video Pete, it's giving u 7 yards more carry with the same swing speed (and similar launch I presume) while that may not seem like much that's pretty massive. Have to say I wasn't a fan of the red face when I first saw it but now I'm very Interested to try. Thanks!
It is and it isn't. It's less than a 1% gain. Which isn't going to drop shots on a scorecard. The average golfer would be better off putting the money into lessons and coaching.
I'm just here to Oooo and Ahhhh over the rainbow in your video!!!! Oh, and nice looking driver. I actually like the style over the Sims. Happy New Years!
I think I'll be sticking with my SIM. Did like the look of the new one, but also agree, if you're going to make the face red then go bold. I also prefer some more definition between the crown and the face like the have on both SIM and SIM2 models.
Great review Pete, love the honesty, my son is looking for a driver as he broke his! He had a callaway rouge, would this be a better replacement than a sim 2 or the new callaway rouge ? If I had the money !
Owned an M5 Tour, SIM and now an M3 and TSI3 but the sound was the only defining characteristic of any of them. The M3 is loud. M5 was sweet like the TSi and the SIM was much the same but the SIM felt completely dead off the higher part of the head. But paired with an Oban Kiyoshi white it was one of the best drivers I ever used. So much so that I’m selling my TSi to get it back lol
I said this during the PNC and people thought I was crazy, but, If Tiger Woods can consistently carry a ball 282 yds with a bad right leg and a years worth of rust on his game with this club, then imagine what it could do for the consistency of your mid-handicapper... It might not be a world beater, but for some, it could be a game changer.
Another great video but I’m always curious as to why there are 4 white dots on the face of the drivers you test. Is it something to do with the launch monitor ?????
wish there was more to the review. almost like when he picks between drivers for his bag for the new season. would have loved to see a spreadsheet with all the data to see.
Yonex did fully carbon woods back in the early 90s, and I read somewhere that McGregor created what Callaway call 'Jailbreak' also back then. Maybe the trend will be integrating old tech into newer club designs over the next few years.
Nice comparison Pete. Generally this looks to perform well. Negatives for me though, it does look a bit dull on the top (didn’t care for SIM 1&2 look either thought tbf) but don’t mind the red face. However, much like other companies basically £500 for a driver is just crazy. Just been fit for and purchased a PXG 0811 Gen 4 driver AND hybrid…£510 for both…that’s good value and I doubt much difference in performance. Never had PXG before so not a fan boy and moved from Ping G425 in both. Still have a white TM burner 3W in the bag which I still love. Everything going up in the world atm energy, fuel etc so it’s nice to get value where we can….
A buddy said and I agree, the Stealth is obviously a bite on the Nike Covert drivers and Tiger of course adopted right away and the face looks so strange (almost like straight out of R&D department) but if the results are the same then who's to argue or complain about it. Switched to the Callaway Epic Max LS and have been loving the forgiveness for off center hits. Still doesn't help with the occasional topper for 50 yards though. :D
I have a number of driver shafts I have been trying over the past year and put them in one of two Sim Max or one of two Sim Max 2 heads I have. I do find a difference from shaft to shaft but no difference between my 10.5 deg Sim Max to my 10.5 deg Sim Max 2 heads. I have ordered the Stealth with the new Mitsu Fubuki V 40g shaft and will put that in the mix and in a few months we will see if the head makes any difference.
Great review Peter. Given that it looks like it's going to Retail at AUD$1000.00 and the minimal if any improvement seen in reviews of this driver that I have seen so far Taylormade can keep it. The new Callaway Rogue looks awesome and if Callaway don't get greedy and keep the price right they will kick Taylormades arse. Let's see. Just based on the reviews and price point Taylormade can stick the Stealth.
I've never found a TM driver that matched the R5 TP I could hit that down the centre of an alley, been on a hunt ever since. I do like the M5, buddy has one and it works fairly well.
Hi I am hopeless with Drivers so use an M2 3 Wood -no driver ! I have an ancient Yonex ADX Carbon Headed and faced Driver! I keep it for sentimental reaso ns and to be honest it's still in one piece and hits fairly ok - though I have read about cracks in face in other peoples experience. I liked it and kinda thought other manufacturers would follow up and improve the technology ! Maybe TM have achieved this goal! Worth a look I suppose - that is if you can hit drivers !
OK, as a Bears fan, that little Walter Payton Funko Pop just rocks....great review as well, it is a really good driver, but not much of an upgrade over last years is good to know, and pretty much what I heard a couple others say as well. Granted my driver is like 12 years old, so probably a huge upgrade for me if I can swing it this year. :)
Nice review, what I’ve gleaned from all the reviews, is that the new face is significantly lighter, meaning the redistribution of weight means the whole club face is more consistent. This is a huge plus, for a low spin driver! Will stick with the original SIM. Not a big fan, of the red club face, TBH!
Great video as always. Pete, what’s your thoughts on this versus the TM M6? I’ve had it nearly 3 years now and find it ultra forgiving and plenty long. Do you see the Stealth as an upgrade on this?
Hey Richard, for me yes but I agree the M6 was forgiving and still a really good driver, I used it for a season and got a consistent little cut from it but the Sim (original) and Stealth + just get me a better launch and spin. But I have changed my swing around as well. Lot's to take into consideration
The consistency with your swing was exceptional and made the test. I have the Sim2 driver and will be sticking with it this year.
I think that the forgiveness factor is going to be a huge piece. Especially for the weekend golfer who may not have a ton of time to spend at the range, the leniency of a driver that offers forgiveness without sacrificing distance could be a huge selling point.
Nice work as always Peter and loving the insta engagement too. Can’t wait for that fake Peter Finch to tell me I’ve won! JammyDriver
He’s telling everyone else, I’d feel disappointed to be left out
Sorry I have just been told I won by the real Peters finches. Sent my card details so he can send the driver 💪 now #jammydriver
The real Mr Peters Finches Golfers! You are so Jammy!
WTF???? Seems legit yeah!
Love fake Peter, it's like having a friend when I get that notification of a reply to my comment.
Great review Pete! Just notice your Walter Peyton doll on your desk! I’m from Illinois and a die hard Bears fan, so really appreciate that! Keep it up Pete!!
I wasn't expecting it to be much of an improvement, but it does seem to be. Not in speed, but in spin. From all the reviews I've seen it seems to have a very small, consistent spin window. I think that will help the average golfer more than the Pro. I've seen a lot of players hit good drives 280 or more with 2200 spin then 245-250 with 3500 spin. If the low and heal strike spins 2700 max compared to 3500 + it should really help.
I've watched 2 other reviews on the stealth and it's some what the same. The big difference is how it looks at address. Its fun to see the opinions of other golfers. But yours is the one that makes sense to me. Thank you Pete
Respect for the Walter Payton funcopop! Awesome rainbow setting on golf course too. Excellent work Peter.
The thing that scares me is the technology of softball and collegiate baseball bats that use carbon fiber.
They have a break in period and the carbon fiber starts to soften giving it the trampoline effect when it hits the sweet spot of BREAK IN . Then once it goes past that sweet spot you get a rapid deterioration of that bounce.
Nice review - I bought the 2021 Sim2 so won’t be changing but would definitely take a look if I had a much older driver.
Third video I've watched on this club and I'm seeing a trend:
Low, consistent spin
Better Dispersion
IMO, that's a marked improvement. I don't know how much more distance we can get form the head of the driver but making them consistent and forgiving is the route. Had I not gotten a fitting last year, Id probably buy one of these but ill get one in 2023 lol
Pete with the best review I've seen yet... "It's a good starting point" are words to live by in regards to going stealth off the tee. The Stealth 2 is going to be awesome!!!
I’ve been swinging the SIM Max for two years and it’s the 5th Taylormade driver I’ve owned. I personally haven’t had many problems with lack of forgiveness from the SIM Max. It’s by far the best driver I’ve ever owned. I use to have the Cobra F8 and yes that club can hit absolute bombs but that’s a driver with almost no forgiveness (even though many people claimed it did) swung the SIM 2, couldn’t tell a big enough difference to spend the money for it. Especially that I already had the SIM Max dialed for me.
I think the stealth looks nice, but I feel the SIM’s series is still elite compared to other top brand drivers.
Nice review Pete a lot more in depth than ricks review, looking forward to your reviews of other brands latest gear!
Oh it's been a while but here I am Mr Finch. Great job reviewing this amazing club. It looks so classic yet so unique I will say that. Definitely try putting it in your bag and seeing how you do with it. Hopefully you and Rick can have a head-to-head soon in the future who knows. God bless you sir
I snapped my ping g5 driver a couple weeks ago and have been using my dads old 1998 callaway big bertha so i think this will be a suitable upgrade and i love that red face!
Sim to this maybe not but M5/6 or later versions......it makes sense. What I love about TM is that the fitting sleeve is still the same so I can run my favorite shafts into this without an issue. I have the Diamana and the Autoflex with this custom Stealth Plus coming with the Ventus once the customization gets applied and shipped. We will see ! Three wood was a big upgrade for me from the Titleist 917F2
Great review Pete.
I think the fact that they've done something so new and it's already comparable, and even marginally better than an established technology, on such a fundamental aspects of the club, is really impressive. That said, are we ready to be the early adopters and pay €600+ for the privilege? Hmmm
Pete, Great video as usual. Two things I noticed ... aside from the red face on the driver. Beautiful rainbow at about 2:48 and ... Check out the Walter Payton bobble head! .... I grew up in Chicago in the 1970's and 1980's and Walter Payton was my (and everyone else in Chicago's) hero. Nice video, brother. 2 thumbs up.
Definitely interested in the longevity of the new stealth. Are we talking a year before the face caves in or is it going to be as durable as a titanium driver
I wonder about that. Carbon fibre has fantastic tensile strength and the ability to recover from bending, but it does not like impact and shock.
Only one way for me to find out I suppose, hit, hit, hit, hit
I'm already seeing pictures online of demo clubs with nicks in the face coating from tee impacts...
@@lburwell99 yea but that’s like a poly coating. If anything I’m thinking that coating will eventually peel/tear. But will the face hold is the real question. Either way I’m happy for the release, because I just bought a used sim2 in great condition for 270
Carbon baseball bats get more pop as they break in.
Interesting new driver from TM.
I bought a (fitted) SIM2 last year and saw a great improvement on my 10 year old driver, From everything I am reading, improvements year by year are very small so unless your swing has changed dramatically my feeling is it is not worth looking at replacing a new driver for at least 5 years. I think there might be some amazing deals on SIM and SIM2 drivers out there soon.
Yea I wouldn't worry about it unless a new driver gave you less spin or increased forgiveness. Those sim drivers are serious so you're definitely squeezing your max out of it.
Yes it's the case that a new model will allow the previous model to be discounted. I got an ex rental SIM2MAX for £249.
Just got my Sim2 Max for Christmas. Was broken hearted seeing a new Driver released by Taylormade. After seeing your video I don't feel so bad. I am a high handicap and will take any help that I can get. Each of these Drivers are some of the best help someone like me can find.
Great insight into the evolution of the TM drivers. I loved the look of the SIM driver too, but hated the lack of forgiveness particularly in shots off the toe (is that twist face not working for in to out swings?). So after years of playing TM drivers, I swapped out for a Callaway Epic Speed which is so much more forgiving. Not sure Stealth will bring me back to TM, maybe next year? 😎
thanks for the review, especially talking about toe hits. im a feel player with scratch handicap and hate all the data you can look at that ultimately dont matter when it comes to hitting a drive on the course.... its nice to finally see what i thought i felt in the sim with the occasional toe hit actually be significantly bad and they addressed it in the stealth some it seems.
Love the Video Pete thanks heaps. I'm still feeling the love from my Sim driver so I'll stick with that for now. Happy new year mate.
Excellent unbiased review Pete! The best one I’ve seen today and I appreciate the comparison to prior models.
Cheers Zach
Great review. You are seeing exactly what I saw in my testing of the Stealth. And extremely consistent and forgiving driver.
I really like the look of the stealth driver the black and red combo is very striking to me. but the sim2 was also a very nice looking driver especially with the way you could customise the colour of it. TM are always the ones to beat when it comes to drivers and other brands are playing catch up all the time
Great to see a review I can trust Peter, currently using the original sim and waiting for a fitting session in the new stealth [mainly to check out different shaft options and to get away from the unforgiving off centre shots] I can understand your disappointment regarding the muted red I too was hoping for fire engine red, I will be considering the cobalt blue option 😁😁 my main concern for the new design is durability over a couple of years it’s a lot to lose if you cannot get anything back when you upgrade. Keep up the good work 👍👋
Did you have normal sim or sim max? My sim max is so forgiving
Good review Pete…it looks good, only TM Marketing thought it would make a big difference I guess. Really interesting points on the consistency of it vs the others though especially Sim original 👍👍👍
Great informative review Peter; some interesting talking points as always.
However I just about spat out my coffee when you mentioned the price [not your fault].
Cheers / Happy New Year
Great video and interesting new club. I have to say, I really liked the subdued sound when struck. What you mentioned, but didn't put numbers to, was the performance on mishits. I would have liked to see the circles on the screen to show the dispersion to get a better idea of what the club did than the average numbers really tell us.
I’ll probably get some posts done on this on social, it’s always tricky to know what to include and what to cut in the edit
om the sound of the club my first thought was "ooo maybe it will have a more old school wood driver sound". i really like that nice THWACK you get too bad it sounds like it does
Great video and nice to have you talking normal all the way through 👍🏻
I absolutely love the Sweatness figuring you have there. Makes those driver heads looks awesome! ;-)
Really good review mate best I've seen so far!
JAMMY DRIVER. Great review Pete. Really would love this club, hopefully 2022 brings me luck this year. Have a good year!
Interesting to see how this fairs in the coming months. I have an old Nike ignite 10.5 degree driver and undecided on my next driver! #JammyDriver #TaylorsMadeJam
Try the latest ping g425, bagged it after 10 years with my old driver
@@jd9799 thanks so much I’ll check the reviews definitely need an upgrade as I feel this is one thing putting me at a disadvantage.
@@Gattuso_Golf I found with it I gained minimum 20 yards off the tee but I hit alot more fairways too even on the bad shots
@@jd9799 I’m in need of a new driver but think the best thing is to get a fitting and find the right one for me
@@Gattuso_Golf I switched to a g425max from a Titlelist D910. Longer off the tee(I think due to shaft differences. I am not a stiff flex for driver for now) but way more forgiving
I'll be interested to see where this technology is in a few years, I'm still happy enough with my M2 for the foreseeable future though
M2 is still a brilliant driver
@@peterfinchgolf what’s its IQ?
If you have an original M2, there is no sense in buying a new driver. Same with the 5 and 3 wood. Those are the best woods ever and still hold up today.
@@el_duderino_man I own and played the M2 for 5 years because nothing could beat it. I did make the change last year to the Callaway Max LS - it was the first driver I demoed that could beat it - by beating it, I mean it has a larger sweet spot - specifically in the Toe - moving the slidable weight very slightly into the toe makes the Max LS just a better driver than the M2 - the original Sim could be longer, but it's so low spinning that misses are brutal
I still play the original M2 and nothing has persuaded me to change yet
Looks awesome!!! But again no dramatic difference in performance. I think it comes down to design preference.
Great video as always Peter! However I will say the way all these new drivers look makes me very glad I bought a Mizuno ST180 online last year. I love my blue driver and I wish there was more individuality in how they made drivers look.
Great review as usual Peter, Love that you test it against it's predecessors, that's the biggest thing for me that I want to see. Thanks 👍
Love to see the channel growing 🙏
Remember when Yonex had a carbon faced driver,played by Mickleson
I’ll be sticking with my SIM 2 for now. Very helpful review thanks.
The camera angle with the rainbow is amazing!
Nice use of "rainbow trajectory" after the entire intro was filmed with a glorious rainbow (double at that) in the background!
My 15 y/o TM works great...bought it for $27 on Amazon..
Bag it. Improvement is Improvement. A little is a little. A lot is a lot. At your level I think you've done most of the things that would be considered big gains. I feel like as long as there's not a trade-off or sacrifice from another aspect of your game and you can grab just a little more it's the way to go, i.e. Vice golf balls. Not a huge stride but every little bit helps. Thanks for taking us along.
I've been looking forward to your video on The Stealth. Very interested in this year's tech. After watching the video it seems like a good Gamer for Peter! Look forward to seeing if it makes it into the bag! Thanks Peter! Great video as always!
Thanks Matt
Happy new years Pete!
Awesome review. Best I've seen! I think I'll wait for the new cobra driver and see what that's about. Currently gaming the radspeed.
Good review Peter. If the red colour was more vibrant and popped it would be hard to call the driver Stealth 😁. It is great to see all the newclubz that come out but the cost of all of them is an issue for me and I suspect many others of my age, now I am retired my sole income is from my state pension and here in NZ the cost of this driver would be more than 2 weeks income so really the new clubs are out of reach of many senior golfers. My current driver is an RBZ which I have always been pleased with following my previous R580 and I wonder what sort of gain, if any, I would get from a current model driver.
Best video I have seen on this drive so fair. Nice work!
Great video. Thanks for the update.
Keep doing "honest" reviews is my advice for you! It's working, and we are listening!
Awesome review Santa 🎅 proper bombing it Mr finch. Its infectious how much you love the Sim :) bring on 2022
Out of all of the reviews that come out on the same day, you're the best. I sure wish Taylormade had made the new drivers flashy enough for you! Cheers!
Great review Pete. It's a good starting point with the carbon. On looks the red face imho is too yuppy, throws me of massivly.
Are you going to review the new callaway too?
And bring back the power board you did last year :)
Great vid ! Can you test Vega irons and wedges, not much on here about them? Thanks
I played 9 holes with the standard stealth yesterday and it blew me away i have a very slow swing speed around 90 mph and the ball just flew my pkaying buddy said i hit some of the best drives he has ever sern me do as i dont regard myself as a good driver player at all i tend to sway towards 3 wood off the tee this will be going in my bag this season
Glad to see Sweetness on your desk!!
Having bought the sim2 max D 3 months ago , I won't be rushing out for a stealth!! What I would say though, is that it would be good for 90% of club golfers if you tested the 'D' drivers more ,as that is the model most mid+ handicappers should be going for.
Agreed. $525 for a new driver or $275 for a sim2 max d that was never hit, which included a $200 Mitsubishi shaft. Save the $300 for lessons.
I was lucky when I was out buying a new iron set and driver, a guy from Taylormade were there showing off the driver. It looks absolutely beautiful. I love the head front, but I still prefer the color scheme of the old driver
Unfortunately TM was not the first to bring the Carbon Face driver, as Callaway released a bomber of a driver 2 decades ago in the Callaway C4. That club sounded amazing coming off the face- like a shotgun blast 💥 and went a mile! Great comparison vid though, exactly the info I was looking for!
Love your informercials. ❤️
Great review Peter! Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the new Rogue lineup!
Hi Peter, The New TM Stealth Driver introduced here in The States is retailing for $579.00 USD!
Excellent review, Pete. Will you be getting the new Callaway drivers in?
Ahh its offically 2022 im so excited for this year and the club releases cant wait for another year of great content pete!
Love the video Pete, it's giving u 7 yards more carry with the same swing speed (and similar launch I presume) while that may not seem like much that's pretty massive. Have to say I wasn't a fan of the red face when I first saw it but now I'm very Interested to try. Thanks!
It is and it isn't. It's less than a 1% gain. Which isn't going to drop shots on a scorecard. The average golfer would be better off putting the money into lessons and coaching.
Great review Peter. That's a big price tag for not much more performance. Sticking with my M6
Dam Finch, I couldn't stop looking at that Sweetness POP you have!! Gotta watch the summary again!!
Great video
Agree with it is a starting point and at least they try to do something different not like Callaway with the "new" Rogue!
great video, the rainbow on the course...*Chefs kiss! Love the comparison between the 2 prior versions! #jammydriver
I'm just here to Oooo and Ahhhh over the rainbow in your video!!!! Oh, and nice looking driver. I actually like the style over the Sims. Happy New Years!
@2:42 spectacular rainbow
I'm interested to see the durability over time. Already seeing pictures of demo clubs with nicks in the coating on the face from tee impacts.
I think I'll be sticking with my SIM. Did like the look of the new one, but also agree, if you're going to make the face red then go bold. I also prefer some more definition between the crown and the face like the have on both SIM and SIM2 models.
Great review Pete, love the honesty, my son is looking for a driver as he broke his! He had a callaway rouge, would this be a better replacement than a sim 2 or the new callaway rouge ? If I had the money !
Owned an M5 Tour, SIM and now an M3 and TSI3 but the sound was the only defining characteristic of any of them. The M3 is loud. M5 was sweet like the TSi and the SIM was much the same but the SIM felt completely dead off the higher part of the head. But paired with an Oban Kiyoshi white it was one of the best drivers I ever used. So much so that I’m selling my TSi to get it back lol
great review this. balanced and fair not many do it this way.
Very in-depth study. Thanks Pete.
I said this during the PNC and people thought I was crazy, but, If Tiger Woods can consistently carry a ball 282 yds with a bad right leg and a years worth of rust on his game with this club, then imagine what it could do for the consistency of your mid-handicapper... It might not be a world beater, but for some, it could be a game changer.
Another great video but I’m always curious as to why there are 4 white dots on the face of the drivers you test. Is it something to do with the launch monitor ?????
wish there was more to the review. almost like when he picks between drivers for his bag for the new season. would have loved to see a spreadsheet with all the data to see.
Yonex did fully carbon woods back in the early 90s, and I read somewhere that McGregor created what Callaway call 'Jailbreak' also back then. Maybe the trend will be integrating old tech into newer club designs over the next few years.
Nice comparison Pete. Generally this looks to perform well. Negatives for me though, it does look a bit dull on the top (didn’t care for SIM 1&2 look either thought tbf) but don’t mind the red face. However, much like other companies basically £500 for a driver is just crazy. Just been fit for and purchased a PXG 0811 Gen 4 driver AND hybrid…£510 for both…that’s good value and I doubt much difference in performance. Never had PXG before so not a fan boy and moved from Ping G425 in both. Still have a white TM burner 3W in the bag which I still love. Everything going up in the world atm energy, fuel etc so it’s nice to get value where we can….
A buddy said and I agree, the Stealth is obviously a bite on the Nike Covert drivers and Tiger of course adopted right away and the face looks so strange (almost like straight out of R&D department) but if the results are the same then who's to argue or complain about it. Switched to the Callaway Epic Max LS and have been loving the forgiveness for off center hits. Still doesn't help with the occasional topper for 50 yards though. :D
I have a number of driver shafts I have been trying over the past year and put them in one of two Sim Max or one of two Sim Max 2 heads I have. I do find a difference from shaft to shaft but no difference between my 10.5 deg Sim Max to my 10.5 deg Sim Max 2 heads. I have ordered the Stealth with the new Mitsu Fubuki V 40g shaft and will put that in the mix and in a few months we will see if the head makes any difference.
Great review Peter. Given that it looks like it's going to Retail at AUD$1000.00 and the minimal if any improvement seen in reviews of this driver that I have seen so far Taylormade can keep it.
The new Callaway Rogue looks awesome and if Callaway don't get greedy and keep the price right they will kick Taylormades arse.
Let's see. Just based on the reviews and price point Taylormade can stick the Stealth.
I've never found a TM driver that matched the R5 TP I could hit that down the centre of an alley, been on a hunt ever since. I do like the M5, buddy has one and it works fairly well.
Hi I am hopeless with Drivers so use an M2 3 Wood -no driver !
I have an ancient Yonex ADX Carbon Headed and faced Driver!
I keep it for sentimental reaso
ns and to be honest it's still in one piece and hits fairly ok - though I have read about cracks in face in other peoples experience.
I liked it and kinda thought other manufacturers would follow up and improve the technology !
Maybe TM have achieved this goal! Worth a look I suppose - that is if you can hit drivers !
Great review, Pete!
Love the review. Love the look. The Walter Peyton bobble head was the real winner
OK, as a Bears fan, that little Walter Payton Funko Pop just rocks....great review as well, it is a really good driver, but not much of an upgrade over last years is good to know, and pretty much what I heard a couple others say as well. Granted my driver is like 12 years old, so probably a huge upgrade for me if I can swing it this year. :)
Up the JAMMIE DRIVER!!! Happy new years pete!
Nice review, what I’ve gleaned from all the reviews, is that the new face is significantly lighter, meaning the redistribution of weight means the whole club face is more consistent. This is a huge plus, for a low spin driver! Will stick with the original SIM. Not a big fan, of the red club face, TBH!
Peter you have such a smooth, synchronized golf swing regardless of the club you’re using. What is your average swing speed?
Very important question. How do you get in and out from that desk?
Great video as always. Pete, what’s your thoughts on this versus the TM M6? I’ve had it nearly 3 years now and find it ultra forgiving and plenty long. Do you see the Stealth as an upgrade on this?
Hey Richard, for me yes but I agree the M6 was forgiving and still a really good driver, I used it for a season and got a consistent little cut from it but the Sim (original) and Stealth + just get me a better launch and spin. But I have changed my swing around as well. Lot's to take into consideration
@@peterfinchgolf thank you for taking the time to reply. You are a class act Pete 👍