I have learned more today by binge watching your videos than i have in 2 years watching a ton of portrait painting videos. Thank you, your an awesome artist and teacher. Im embarrassed to say i didn't think it was possible to paint gold without using metallic paint and you made it happen. Wow amazing.
The bad comments are so stupid. "Copying" the masters is exactly how artists learn. No one is claiming this is a perfect copy of a Rembrandt; it's simply a (pretty damn solid) approach to painting bright metallics, demonstrated by copying a painting with bright metallics. This tutorial is more about color mixing than it is about Rembrandt's techniques. Jumping in the comments to complain about this dude not using the chemicals that KILLED the greats is also a super weird thing to do, lol.
I think the better approach to this is to match the larger area of lower value in the helmet (the one reflecting light) and paint in the darks as accent... I am interested to do this one of these days... I think its fun. The shine part is just a visual trick.
Thank you for this tutorial. The « brown yellow » you mentioned, that looked like yellow ochre, who carries that Color and what is the name of that colour. Thank you for your time!!
to paint light is just a mindshift: paint more dark. beginners are too afraid to paint dark so they never make light appear. light only seems to shine when it's contrasted by dark. if there is no dark it'll just become a pastel kinda flat image. in theory there is more light, but without the contrast it just seems flat and dull, like a white canvas; it does not shine.
Nice demo, the only issue is that the masters like Rembrandt rely on transparency and translucency in his palette . The problem with the apeles palette is way to limited for those effects plus those colors are very opaque. Rembrandt’s palette is more extensive with lake colors , more earth colors , plus lead white which is less opaque than titanium . Get the book Rembrandt The Painter at Work it has a lot of technical info . You can’t do level master work with a student palette , you miss those effects that other pigments can and an old masters had extended palettes 🎨. The bright yellow that Rembrandt and Titian used as many masters is Lead Tin Yellow ( the brand NATURAL PIGMENTS has it in tube ) , you can’t mix that yellow it has beautiful properties no other pigment has
Yeah, the copy/study does look good and he certainly is very talented, but the issue with trying to capture technique in a copy of a C17th painting is that most modern copies and studies use wet on wet and are emulating the immediate effect of the surface layers, but as you say, up until the early C19th virtually all oil effects were done by glazes so it's a totally different process and effect
Absolutely, Rembrandt would have taken much longer, building glazes, depths and with superb ground pigments made by his colour-man to his own requirements. Even with the same supplies, Rembrant used, it will always never be possible to make a replica ; Rembrandt was a genius but I appreciate this artist's superb colour mixing tutorial and effort to try for a similar effect of Rembrandt stunning, shining hold effect. Xx
Hey Nic, with the textured chunks you've got on the edges, did you mix an agent into the paint, or is that just straight dried oil paint? Thanks for the tutorial!
You mention that the colors are weird for Rembrandt. I think its believed now that this painting wasn't actually painted by rembrandt but rather one of his students.
I have seen this painting in the original. Rembrandt's student who painted this, 'painted' the plasticity, he did not model it with thicker strokes of paint. I also see little resemblance to the gold in the helmet in the original; that's not possible in such a short time with a few brush strokes anyway.
The high contrast is what was mainly missing.. which he spoke on but then continued in a very “safe” manner with grey muddied mid tones being the dominant factor.
I recently started (SAFELY!!!) painting with lead white and I'm actually shocked by the difference this has made when mixing colours When doing a side by side comparison with my regular go-to titanium white. I immediately noticed that the lead white appeared a lot warmer than the stark titanium white that i was used to. But the real difference became apparent when I started to mix in different coulers. This is because (in my opinion) lead white has a much, much better pigment retention then my regular white. So if any painters out there have a chance to (SAFELY!!!) experience with lead white i would highly recommend it!!!
Interesting demo, thank you! From a viewing point of view, it was difficult to see the colours because of your dirty palette, couldn't see the order you laid your tints and shades in. Would recommend not using dab of paint on your finger to colour check - other viewers might use cadmium colours in their palette, and wouldn't recommend skin contact with those. Other than those minor points a good demo, good info about importance of contrast when depicting gold. Well done👏👏
Touching cadmium paint is not going to make you sick. There's no recorded case, ever, of somebody getting sick from skin exposure to cadmium paint. You have to breathe the dry pigments. It's not helpful to new artists when you spread bad information.
Big respect to that guy not only for trying to copy the God but also for not using the materials the God used. God Rembrandt was handling a thick but easily manageable paste in order to achieve such an illusional 3D depth and the secret is forever gone unfortunately.
Let me be the 91st comment to point out how I would do it better than you and then come up with a excuse why I know it all but cannot be bothered to make a video about it while my whole purpose of being here is purely antagonistic. Who said art can’t be fun?
this is nothing like Rembrandt: way to thick. and I highly doubt the painting you're trying to copy was painted alla prima like you do. though Rembrandt did paint in multiple techniques. or at least; his studio with it's students and their paintings below which he signed the painting. still I gave it a like, cause you paint oil in 2023. and it's a decent study. good. keep going !
I like your approach slightly better than the original. It isnt perfect but i like that the helmet has more middle tones in the lighest area compared to the original even tho it isnt as "realistic". For me the original has slight imbalance between blurred face and sharply defined, somehow "too normal" looking helmet. I think your version would more appear to painters who actually practice painting. Besides that i honestly doubt that this is originally Rembrandt's painting. I would rather bet that it was painted by one of his imitators/copiers of his style. There some lack of harmony in this work.
Bas ste se trudili. Lepo je ali ne moze uopste da se uporedi sa Rembrant. Kod njega izgleda zlato a kod vas izgleda bakar. Pričam slemu a i lik vam je sasvim drugaciji
Nice impression, bit clearly nothing close to the Rembrandt's technique. The impasto in the helm is particularity very off. Rembrandt were very carefully shaping the form underneath, using juicy amount of medium in order the paint to get the proper viscosity and behavior. Linseed Stand oil have honey-like consistency, and it is a good start, although a lot more can be said (like lead white behave differently as a start; or his extensive use of Smalt/Blue glass to all volume and texture to the paints - and there is modern substitutes!) Also you need proper brush for some of those passages, not that flat one. Some pointy aquarelle brush will do magic. Also Rembrandt were vivid user of all sort of transparent siennas and umbers. Rembrandt technique is 80% glazes and transparent effects, obviously not alla prima. I don't see point of limiting yourself in this artificial Apelles palette and missing all the properties you can get with the different earth pigments and few like "transparent yellow oxide", "stil de grain" (that are already quite synchronized with the Apelles gamma anyway)
if I'm not mistaken, this is not a painting by Rembrandt. A group of researchers analyzed the painting and concluded that this painting may have been done by one of his students.
Okay, but why does your own art suck if you talk all these "facts"? Your claims are ridiculous. You can make very accurate and good studies and copies not using the exact same colors and BRUSHES!? Are you kidding me...
You are not matching gold even 10%. May be Rembrandt used arsenic to get his gold effects. You can get gold paint in Market. Why do you waste our time & your time. every artist is unique. Do your style of art to get good Impressionism or realism in art. Even REMBRANDT got motivation from PAUL RUBENS .
What an absolutely horrible thing to say. He put a lot of effort into making this video; planning, making, editing along with painting while commentating about the process so we can learn to paint something as tricky as gold. It costs us nothing to get this information. Also why would you use gold paint? He’s trying to teach us how to paint gold using a standard palette. If you think you could do a better job feel free to make your own demonstration. But don’t go tearing down other artists
Здравствуйте. Я думаю у Вас техника не правильная. Автор оригинала использовал "свечение" краски. Лицо и шлем первым слоем полностью прописал оранжевым или красным цветом. Потом поверх наносил остальные оттенки. Первые слои оранжевого и красного как бы светятся из под слоёв других оттенков. Главное соблюдать толщину слоёв иначе "свечение" пропадёт. Это очень интересная техника)
It was not meant to be a finished painting, it was to show the contrast and get the idea behind painting gold. he just very generous went and painted the portrait in order to show how to mix the skin color, did you learn anything I sure did!!
34:00 min is where painting gold starts
I have learned more today by binge watching your videos than i have in 2 years watching a ton of portrait painting videos. Thank you, your an awesome artist and teacher. Im embarrassed to say i didn't think it was possible to paint gold without using metallic paint and you made it happen. Wow amazing.
Thanks for this longer format and for free! Nothing better than watching a pro tackle a painting step by step.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for the support
So many experts in the comments makes me wonder why they bothered watching a tutorial.
Because they are the so called " experts" they know "everything "😂😂😂😂
Because they are the so called " experts" they know "everything "😂😂😂😂
Haha funny😂
😂 haters gonna hate
Great comment! I needed a good laugh.😂
One of the best and easy to follow lessons I’ve watched. Thank you
Glad it was helpful! Thank you
I was recently admiring some gold materials in a Rembrant painting and now I stumble upon this video! Ty
Glad I could help!
very generous of you, I picked up a lot of tips on skin color , to me the gold was the icing on the cake!! thankyou.
This video is an absolute gem. Plus, it's on of my favorite paintings. Now I can make this portrait! Thank you Nic!
The bad comments are so stupid. "Copying" the masters is exactly how artists learn. No one is claiming this is a perfect copy of a Rembrandt; it's simply a (pretty damn solid) approach to painting bright metallics, demonstrated by copying a painting with bright metallics. This tutorial is more about color mixing than it is about Rembrandt's techniques.
Jumping in the comments to complain about this dude not using the chemicals that KILLED the greats is also a super weird thing to do, lol.
Thank you haha
I love every artist!
Nevermind the haters!
Bet they never picked up a paintbrush
Thank you for the demo!
not an expert, i do paint myself...the results speak by themselves, its not a matter of "haters gonna hate" but bruv...
Excellent work! Thanks for sharing and explaining as you paint!!
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed
Rembrandt was a beast
Alchemy! 🤗 Thank you so much for this demo. 🙏❤️
Thank you! 🙏
Your video is really informative and well done! I learned a bunch and look forward to challenging myself with this palette.
Glad it was helpful!
Cool! Always love to see other artists' processes to steal ideas.
Thank you! Hope to see more oil painting and drawing.
Thank you for the painting lesson, we are looking forward to your other works
We love this type of content!
Thank You Sooo Much for Sharing and Merry Christmas !
Very helpful to see how its all set up, thanks!
Excellent nice tutorial well explained thankyou ❤
Thank you so much Nic !
awesome video thanks for posting it
Glad you enjoyed it
I think the better approach to this is to match the larger area of lower value in the helmet (the one reflecting light) and paint in the darks as accent... I am interested to do this one of these days... I think its fun. The shine part is just a visual trick.
Thank you for this tutorial. The « brown yellow » you mentioned, that looked like yellow ochre, who carries that Color and what is the name of that colour. Thank you for your time!!
It’s Old Holland yellow brown. The link will take you to the Amazon list that has it and all the colors I use. Here it is: amzn.to/3P28R46
@@NicThurman thank you for the tutorial and for replying so promptly !! Happy holidays!!
Amazing to say the least ❤️🙏❤️🙏
Thank you so much for your tutorial, very helpful. Xxx
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching
Gold metal helmet in Rembrandt paint has a dark background maybe inside, what about outside in daylight the colors , shadows would be different
to paint light is just a mindshift: paint more dark.
beginners are too afraid to paint dark so they never make light appear.
light only seems to shine when it's contrasted by dark.
if there is no dark it'll just become a pastel kinda flat image. in theory there is more light, but without the contrast it just seems flat and dull, like a white canvas; it does not shine.
Thank you
Great video. Is this similar to the Zorn palette?
Yes it is!
Nice demo, the only issue is that the masters like Rembrandt rely on transparency and translucency in his palette . The problem with the apeles palette is way to limited for those effects plus those colors are very opaque. Rembrandt’s palette is more extensive with lake colors , more earth colors , plus lead white which is less opaque than titanium . Get the book Rembrandt The Painter at Work it has a lot of technical info . You can’t do level master work with a student palette , you miss those effects that other pigments can and an old masters had extended palettes 🎨.
The bright yellow that Rembrandt and Titian used as many masters is Lead Tin Yellow ( the brand NATURAL PIGMENTS has it in tube ) , you can’t mix that yellow it has beautiful properties no other pigment has
Yeah, the copy/study does look good and he certainly is very talented, but the issue with trying to capture technique in a copy of a C17th painting is that most modern copies and studies use wet on wet and are emulating the immediate effect of the surface layers, but as you say, up until the early C19th virtually all oil effects were done by glazes so it's a totally different process and effect
Absolutely, Rembrandt would have taken much longer, building glazes, depths and with superb ground pigments made by his colour-man to his own requirements. Even with the same supplies, Rembrant used, it will always never be possible to make a replica ; Rembrandt was a genius but I appreciate this artist's superb colour mixing tutorial and effort to try for a similar effect of Rembrandt stunning, shining hold effect. Xx
@@jakecavendish3470Yes!! I haven’t seen a video of a Rembrandt study in Rembrandts technique! Always just wet in wet…
I have to say I like your version better than the original, it’s really gorgeously atmospheric.
Value Value Value Value get that right and chances are your paintings will turn out well
And proportions
Hey Nic, with the textured chunks you've got on the edges, did you mix an agent into the paint, or is that just straight dried oil paint? Thanks for the tutorial!
It’s oil ground preparation: calcium carbonate + linseed oil
Bingo I am so glad u did
this paint8ng.ty
Hi, nice video, I’m just venturing into this content creation stuff myself. 👍🏻
Interesting , even if it is not really a picture by Rembrandt
You mention that the colors are weird for Rembrandt. I think its believed now that this painting wasn't actually painted by rembrandt but rather one of his students.
Wonderful.
Thank you! Cheers!
Thank you so much.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
Hello Nic. Can I use glass jar to put premixed oils? Because here in Arg I don't find empty tubes.
Do you think they do it the same way in Dafeng?
Can you please start a beginner level series for people who are new to paint
This is a beginner level series, as the host of the video is a beginner himself.
I have seen this painting in the original. Rembrandt's student who painted this, 'painted' the plasticity, he did not model it with thicker strokes of paint. I also see little resemblance to the gold in the helmet in the original; that's not possible in such a short time with a few brush strokes anyway.
The high contrast is what was mainly missing.. which he spoke on but then continued in a very “safe” manner with grey muddied mid tones being the dominant factor.
It's like the Zorn palette plus orange.
I recently started (SAFELY!!!) painting with lead white and I'm actually shocked by the difference this has made when mixing colours
When doing a side by side comparison with my regular go-to titanium white. I immediately noticed that the lead white appeared a lot warmer than the stark titanium white that i was used to. But the real difference became apparent when I started to mix in different coulers. This is because (in my opinion) lead white has a much, much better pigment retention then my regular white. So if any painters out there have a chance to (SAFELY!!!) experience with lead white i would highly recommend it!!!
What does it mean to use it safely?
Interesting demo, thank you! From a viewing point of view, it was difficult to see the colours because of your dirty palette, couldn't see the order you laid your tints and shades in. Would recommend not using dab of paint on your finger to colour check - other viewers might use cadmium colours in their palette, and wouldn't recommend skin contact with those. Other than those minor points a good demo, good info about importance of contrast when depicting gold. Well done👏👏
Touching cadmium paint is not going to make you sick. There's no recorded case, ever, of somebody getting sick from skin exposure to cadmium paint. You have to breathe the dry pigments. It's not helpful to new artists when you spread bad information.
Gracias gran maestro
I like it Question is Is it finished the way it is? Think needs more work .....
Big respect to that guy not only for trying to copy the God but also for not using the materials the God used.
God Rembrandt was handling a thick but easily manageable paste in order to achieve such an illusional 3D depth and the secret is forever gone unfortunately.
Since when is gold the colour of orange ?
wow
Let me be the 91st comment to point out how I would do it better than you and then come up with a excuse why I know it all but cannot be bothered to make a video about it while my whole purpose of being here is purely antagonistic.
Who said art can’t be fun?
Jeez you have quite a dutch intonation. Not much accent maar ben je Nederlands?
Anyone remember the film where a guy copied a rembrandt so well people thought it was real and he git prosecuted?
Yours is orange. His is gold.
What am I missing?
Thanks for this one! But this is most likely not Rembrandt's painting, they say :)
this is nothing like Rembrandt: way to thick. and I highly doubt the painting you're trying to copy was painted alla prima like you do. though Rembrandt did paint in multiple techniques. or at least; his studio with it's students and their paintings below which he signed the painting.
still I gave it a like, cause you paint oil in 2023. and it's a decent study. good. keep going !
I like your approach slightly better than the original. It isnt perfect but i like that the helmet has more middle tones in the lighest area compared to the original even tho it isnt as "realistic". For me the original has slight imbalance between blurred face and sharply defined, somehow "too normal" looking helmet. I think your version would more appear to painters who actually practice painting. Besides that i honestly doubt that this is originally Rembrandt's painting. I would rather bet that it was painted by one of his imitators/copiers of his style. There some lack of harmony in this work.
This painting is not done by Rembrandt! It is work of a pupil of him.
My personal painter just uses gold as the surface and goes from there. 😤
I think he would have liked…
Holy shit
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Bas ste se trudili. Lepo je ali ne moze uopste da se uporedi sa Rembrant. Kod njega izgleda zlato a kod vas izgleda bakar. Pričam slemu a i lik vam je sasvim drugaciji
Arsenic
Nice impression, bit clearly nothing close to the Rembrandt's technique. The impasto in the helm is particularity very off. Rembrandt were very carefully shaping the form underneath, using juicy amount of medium in order the paint to get the proper viscosity and behavior. Linseed Stand oil have honey-like consistency, and it is a good start, although a lot more can be said (like lead white behave differently as a start; or his extensive use of Smalt/Blue glass to all volume and texture to the paints - and there is modern substitutes!) Also you need proper brush for some of those passages, not that flat one. Some pointy aquarelle brush will do magic.
Also Rembrandt were vivid user of all sort of transparent siennas and umbers. Rembrandt technique is 80% glazes and transparent effects, obviously not alla prima. I don't see point of limiting yourself in this artificial Apelles palette and missing all the properties you can get with the different earth pigments and few like "transparent yellow oxide", "stil de grain" (that are already quite synchronized with the Apelles gamma anyway)
if I'm not mistaken, this is not a painting by Rembrandt. A group of researchers analyzed the painting and concluded that this painting may have been done by one of his students.
Why are you using plural form 'were' instead of 'was'? Were there many Rembrandts or are you talking about one specific person?
second language @@daenerystargaryen
Okay, but why does your own art suck if you talk all these "facts"? Your claims are ridiculous. You can make very accurate and good studies and copies not using the exact same colors and BRUSHES!? Are you kidding me...
@@bestofrock945 try painting Jeronimos Bosch with hog brush.
If you squint your eyes... maybe... :P
The painting is NOT by Rembrandt---- check your facts
i dont even paint but i can see that ain’t gold or even metallic enough
i think rembrandts is better
Calling the Zorn palette by its common name would greatly improve your ability to communicate with your audience.
It#s not a Rembrandt! Nothing is all this without underpainting in egg tempera.
You can do better
Not even close to the original. Thurman’s version is more orange than gold. !
Let’s see yours. 🙄
Let’s see yours. 🙄
I don’t pretend to be an expert !
Your excellent at Painting old mens helmets doesn't sound good on paper does it 😂
You are. not a Rembrandt ,but you good
Boring commentary, sorry, good luck for others
This is not very good. Your palette is way too limited for the range that metallic gold requires.
Oh really, I guess nobody told Rembrandt since that was his exact palette.
Not even close.
Not good enough
... more copper, than Rembrandt gold
You loose essentials.
You are not matching gold even 10%. May be Rembrandt used arsenic to get his gold effects. You can get gold paint in Market. Why do you waste our time & your time. every artist is unique. Do your style of art to get good Impressionism or realism in art. Even REMBRANDT got motivation from PAUL RUBENS .
Poor you. Your comment shows how unhappy you are. Go and take some medicine.
It’s not a waste of time. It’s a teaching and learning exercise. Old master copies are a traditional method of improvement.
What an absolutely horrible thing to say. He put a lot of effort into making this video; planning, making, editing along with painting while commentating about the process so we can learn to paint something as tricky as gold. It costs us nothing to get this information. Also why would you use gold paint? He’s trying to teach us how to paint gold using a standard palette. If you think you could do a better job feel free to make your own demonstration. But don’t go tearing down other artists
Exactly what a jealous, uneducated and untalented person would say 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I’m sure you feel great about yourself now. Ungrateful ass.
I’m not an art historian but I don’t think “Rembadt” used gold paint from the market
Здравствуйте. Я думаю у Вас техника не правильная. Автор оригинала использовал "свечение" краски. Лицо и шлем первым слоем полностью прописал оранжевым или красным цветом. Потом поверх наносил остальные оттенки. Первые слои оранжевого и красного как бы светятся из под слоёв других оттенков. Главное соблюдать толщину слоёв иначе "свечение" пропадёт. Это очень интересная техника)
I like it Question is Is it finished the way it is? Think needs more work .....
It was not meant to be a finished painting, it was to show the contrast and get the idea behind painting gold. he just very generous went and painted the portrait in order to show how to mix the skin color, did you learn anything I sure did!!