How to prepare a canvas like the Old Masters | Demonstration by Jan-Ove Tuv

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  • @elizabethbarbosa4077
    @elizabethbarbosa4077 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm so happy I found this channel! I love the Apelles palette :)

  • @sonalramnath
    @sonalramnath 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome! Thank you so much for this video🙏

  • @reycondolitorres9922
    @reycondolitorres9922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing the experience

  • @danigadaleta5092
    @danigadaleta5092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You so much for sharing. Definetely Will try this soon !!..

  • @phillipmurphy842
    @phillipmurphy842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Excellent presentation Jan-Ove ; it would be interesting to see your linen preparation steps (e.g., washing and glue sizing).

  • @juancarlosmartinlopezgarci5444
    @juancarlosmartinlopezgarci5444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much! I will try this soon.

  • @toddtyrrell
    @toddtyrrell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wonderful, thank you. Nerdrum's prepared grounds have been something of a mystery to me. Excited to try it.

  • @anikindarji875
    @anikindarji875 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trmendous! Thaaaaaaaank you!

  • @sid527
    @sid527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!!!

  • @ozymandiascakehole3586
    @ozymandiascakehole3586 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    gotta love that old holland

  • @stephenfularz7573
    @stephenfularz7573 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the information.

  • @pietromattioli285
    @pietromattioli285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you For this video

  • @rajachowdhury869
    @rajachowdhury869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm your big fan sir ❤️

  • @andreamuller8468
    @andreamuller8468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great!!!

  • @wesleythomas8009
    @wesleythomas8009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was watching with closed captions on and in the first 12 seconds it said you were going to prepare the canvas with chalk and lizard oil! 😂 I had to listen just to double check. Anyway, great video!

  • @josephtermeer4595
    @josephtermeer4595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That canvas sounds tight like a drum. Thank you for sharing this knowledge!

    • @KatarzynaWojciechowska1
      @KatarzynaWojciechowska1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because canvas must be glued out with 7 percent animal glue before any ground application ;)

    • @adolfodelgado5366
      @adolfodelgado5366 ปีที่แล้ว

      And if get loose, just wet it and let it dry at the sun and it will tight again

    • @adolfodelgado5366
      @adolfodelgado5366 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KatarzynaWojciechowska1 well they are differents ways to do it, it is not mark with strait ruler

    • @KatarzynaWojciechowska1
      @KatarzynaWojciechowska1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@adolfodelgado5366 no. There is no deviation from this rule. Canvas must be glued before any ground aplication. It is simple physics. Glue bonds fibers together and isolate canvas from oil. No ground can make this without gluing canvas. Ask a conservator.

    • @adolfodelgado5366
      @adolfodelgado5366 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KatarzynaWojciechowska1 that is why my gesso is white zink Elmer's glue and water

  • @bunnierivera3754
    @bunnierivera3754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Where do you get the chalk?

  • @marka9200
    @marka9200 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ten years of research trying to get this right…. When I started painting I would go to the museum and I will look at all of those great master paintings and I would ask myself say why does my paintings not looks like that it looks like leather looks like beautiful perfect surface it’s like what did they use I couldn’t figure it out and then I started doing the research and reading and reading in this video is so helpful and I am so happy and I just want to ask where can I buy this pure chalk from because I can’t find it anywhere.

  • @ronjohnson4566
    @ronjohnson4566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that was a great video. you answered questions that people don't even know to ask? thanks. only one thing I would change is the very beginning. i think it is linen you are priming. and I would mention the glue. the rabbit skin glue(?) up front.

  • @sunnytudorart
    @sunnytudorart ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How long should you wait after the 2nd layer before you can begin painting on it?

  • @raymondtheriault2555
    @raymondtheriault2555 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. For the chalk, what kind and where to get it? Thanks again!

  • @chicfromthesticks8900
    @chicfromthesticks8900 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you use premixed chalk paint in stead of Guesso?

  • @agustinacaruso
    @agustinacaruso 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent!!!

    • @Centinelaceol
      @Centinelaceol ปีที่แล้ว

      Agustina sabes cuales son los materiales que dice al principio del video ? No los identifico en inglés .. que clase de chalk es ese ? Que clase de aceite es ese que dice ?:S. aceite de lagartija?

    • @ailunkoyt
      @ailunkoyt 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Centinelaceolэтот «Linseed Oil»

  • @nicolasdemarco4479
    @nicolasdemarco4479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    is chalk the same material used for sculptures?

  • @laurabello3628
    @laurabello3628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video! I wonder why you prepare a ground with the same solvent as the one you would use for the paint layer..? (Was I clear with my question? Sorry, my English is a bit rusty... Hope you understand what I mean. Thanks again)

    • @jan-ovetuv3836
      @jan-ovetuv3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It´s an advantage to use a fairly "homogenous" set of materials, so that less problems arise technically.

  • @accepttt2723
    @accepttt2723 ปีที่แล้ว

    can we apply this method on upstretched fabric ?

  • @leonardnolan8856
    @leonardnolan8856 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, greetings form Rome. massively interesting content here ,thank you sharing. Quick question from a conservator, do you use 'cooked' or 'raw' linseed oil and is your gesso Gypsum or Plaster of Paris?

    • @Heurigijdbd
      @Heurigijdbd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      calcium carbonate

  • @guilhermecarvalho6944
    @guilhermecarvalho6944 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have been trying to apply a good ground for loose painting/impressiosism with acrylic basis. They seem to retain paint too much, so I can't get a long brushtroke on my canvas.
    Would an oil ground like yours be the solution? How long does it take to dry?

    • @Kurolicht
      @Kurolicht 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Adding chalk only makes the surface more absorbent

  • @LinhHoang-mf4yl
    @LinhHoang-mf4yl ปีที่แล้ว

    Excuse me sir, My canvas is Gesso canvas, so Can I apply some Calcium carbonate for ground? Thank you sir.

  • @AnitaMeno78
    @AnitaMeno78 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is recommended if you use acrylic paint?

  • @NJ-zj8by
    @NJ-zj8by ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greetings,
    In "Learn to Paint like the Old Masters from Odd Nerdrum's Prominent Pupil Sebastian Salvo | Part I," he seems to describe using this recipe you are demonstrating here, but with an alkyd resin added.
    Could you maybe specify which alkyd resin is added to this combination, in his mixture? Also, what proportion.
    Thank you

    • @zein9227
      @zein9227 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Most probably to accelerate the drying time. With an alkyd medium the ground will be dry in about 24 to 48 hours. Without drying accelerators the drying time is dependent only on the linseed oil and the thickness of layer. A titanium white ground can take 6 weeks to be surface dry and up to 6 months to polymerise completely.

  • @FridoomAssassin
    @FridoomAssassin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spanish subtitles will be available?

  • @jimqartworks
    @jimqartworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awesome, is that applicable to a wooden panel?
    thanks

    • @KatarzynaWojciechowska1
      @KatarzynaWojciechowska1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oil grounds are dedicated for canvas, wood must be ground with chalk gesso

  • @moliere9677
    @moliere9677 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you use raw or boiled linseed oil?

  • @aaronschmitz_
    @aaronschmitz_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Are you not using any type of glue or size to seal your fabric substrates before applying a ground?

    • @jan-ovetuv3836
      @jan-ovetuv3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This canvas was pre-glued. Claessens 066GL. (GL = glued).

    • @filippostrikas
      @filippostrikas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You mean rabbit glue?

    • @jan-ovetuv3836
      @jan-ovetuv3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@filippostrikas If you glue the canvas yourself, you can be positive it´s rabbit skin glue. I think Claessens uses PVA.

    • @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork
      @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jan-ovetuv3836 Sorry to tell you but your rabbit skin isn't actually, you know, rabbit. Used to be when the human diet included the little furry things. Now it is mostly farm animal. None the less doing it yourself is the only way to be sure. Most important step, this one.

    • @jan-ovetuv3836
      @jan-ovetuv3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork Thanks - yes, I know. Old habit to say "rabbit skin glue"...

  • @DizzyCsango
    @DizzyCsango 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why use expensive tube colours in your ground-incuding one containing safflower oil (Sennelier)-when you can use dry pigments?

  • @rammohan9447
    @rammohan9447 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sanding can be done in between 1st and 2nd layer?

  • @courtneycoart
    @courtneycoart ปีที่แล้ว

    The “color” you add is it just oil paint or pure pigment?

  • @owenkinsellaart9424
    @owenkinsellaart9424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've heard some people say that a gesso ground on linen runs the risk of cracking due to the gesso being to brittle?

    • @jan-ovetuv3836
      @jan-ovetuv3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Have never experienced that. I know Odd put it to a long test in a room with great fluctuations of temperature, and it endured very well.

    • @owenkinsellaart9424
      @owenkinsellaart9424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jan-ovetuv3836 I'm in two minds whether to try your mix out or to just use a oil based prime for my next large work. I'm doing a copy of a Caravaggio. Also working on half length portraits for admission to study with Mr Nurdrum. Cheers

    • @jan-ovetuv3836
      @jan-ovetuv3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@owenkinsellaart9424 My suggestion would be to first try it on a smaller canvas (f. ex. a self-portrait), if you are hesitant - so you acquaint yourself with the ground.

    • @owenkinsellaart9424
      @owenkinsellaart9424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jan-ovetuv3836 good idea.

  • @karenjohnston8130
    @karenjohnston8130 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have marble dust could I use that with line seed oil to make my ground or is it just for acrylic ground

  • @reycondolitorres9922
    @reycondolitorres9922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can I apply this preparation on a canvas prepared with acrylic?

    • @user-zz2tv1lp2e
      @user-zz2tv1lp2e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also want to know this

    • @Jjjcs
      @Jjjcs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Acrylic canvas is already prepared. Why would you add another preparation on top? Just tone your canvas and that’s it.

  • @carlossalgado5205
    @carlossalgado5205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Jan-Ove. Could you tell me again what kind of oil is that?

    • @leahcrossley6756
      @leahcrossley6756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He said linseed oil.

    • @carlossalgado5205
      @carlossalgado5205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leahcrossley6756 what is linseed in Spanish?

    • @vickrdable
      @vickrdable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carlossalgado5205 linaza

  • @noginresue2936
    @noginresue2936 ปีที่แล้ว

    Instead of chalk , does gypsum work ?

  • @albertosalazar802
    @albertosalazar802 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Desde el minuto 5..6 quedo plasmado un rostro

  • @smithsmithy4817
    @smithsmithy4817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No glue for sizing???

  • @bzxshor67mpts
    @bzxshor67mpts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you put it on oil based primer on claessens

    • @jan-ovetuv3836
      @jan-ovetuv3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean a Claessens which has already been primed (at their factory)? Yes, you can - but perhaps sand that pre-existing coat with some sandpaper, to ensure that the new layers is properly attached. Perhaps even "wash" the pre-existing coat with turpentine (or even Aceton - but be careful, as Aceton is extremely strong. You do NOT want to sniff it...).
      But of course you get the best surface to paint on if you apply this ground to a canvas which has only been sized (glued).

    • @bzxshor67mpts
      @bzxshor67mpts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jan-ovetuv3836 Thank you .I will see how it goes

  • @cherylmagellen2630
    @cherylmagellen2630 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you put this mixture over a canvas that has already been primed with gesso?

  • @marka9200
    @marka9200 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where can I buy this pure chalk from?

  • @gadolin619
    @gadolin619 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have three questions: 1.-Does the fabric have to be sewn with rabbit glue before applying this primer? 2.-How can I know how much oil the mixture contains? since it makes me super chewy 3.- Can the first layers be worked with only solvent? To respect the principle of fat over lean

    • @notthestrawman3005
      @notthestrawman3005 ปีที่แล้ว

      "..pre-glued by all means.." 12:13min

    • @pollyester6627
      @pollyester6627 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1.- No, PVA (polyvinyl acetate) can be used in place of r s g or animal 'hide' glue.

  • @vittoriobeghelli3561
    @vittoriobeghelli3561 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @pajaroart
    @pajaroart ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cuando mencionas ""Chalk" quieres decir "carbonato de calcio" o el yeso que usan los albañiles para frisar paredes? muchas gracias.

  • @egesanatresimegitimi2332
    @egesanatresimegitimi2332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many days this canvas will dry.. I tried this technic but still wet , five day and I m still waiting to my canvas dry..

    • @Jjjcs
      @Jjjcs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Needed a drier in the mix

  • @Mr960silva
    @Mr960silva ปีที่แล้ว

    that method can be used, over cotton, without rabit skin glue ?

  • @JorgeSilva-rb6nz
    @JorgeSilva-rb6nz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That procedement don`t replace the use of Gesso?

    • @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork
      @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a different type of ground. There are quite a few actually.

  • @1alexhyland
    @1alexhyland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you size the canvas first with glue? Or do you just go right ahead with the preparation described in the video?
    Thank you

  • @mvximilivn
    @mvximilivn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is that applied on a raw canvas? 😮

  • @albertosalazar802
    @albertosalazar802 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    El rostro de Jan Ove Tuv

  • @ElianaLemosArt
    @ElianaLemosArt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if calcium carbonate impasto will adhere to this ground in the mid/long term.

  • @tegian732
    @tegian732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How many layers one put ???

    • @jan-ovetuv3836
      @jan-ovetuv3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At least two, but you can do three (as I mention towards the end: the ground will then suck much more, but that can also be exploited to your advantage - depending on the technique you prefer)

  • @Larry-Art179
    @Larry-Art179 ปีที่แล้ว

    😊

  • @LITTLEBLACKNAILS
    @LITTLEBLACKNAILS หลายเดือนก่อน

    but at the beginning the canvas has only glue?

  • @salattu
    @salattu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it really chalk? I thought gypsum...?

  • @n.s.a-
    @n.s.a- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is chalk calcium carbonate?

    • @sergiofernandez-ll9xt
      @sergiofernandez-ll9xt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chalk containts calcium carbonate, i think over 99%

  • @emilianozsp9123
    @emilianozsp9123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    this serves as a substitute for gesso ?

    • @jan-ovetuv3836
      @jan-ovetuv3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And so much nicer to paint on…

    • @noginresue2936
      @noginresue2936 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jan-ovetuv3836 Instead of chalk , does gypsum work ?

    • @jan-ovetuv3836
      @jan-ovetuv3836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@noginresue2936 I would stick to chalk

    • @themrakaki
      @themrakaki ปีที่แล้ว

      @@noginresue2936 yes both works

    • @madeleine363
      @madeleine363 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I believe you would also need animal skin glue

  • @charles6762
    @charles6762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you paint acrylic over this

    • @MM-fb9fi
      @MM-fb9fi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no, oil over acrylic, thin layer, and no acrylic over oil, it will not adhere properly.

    • @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork
      @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only if you don't care about archival preserving. Oil and acrylic are not chemical friends. Use acrylic gesso to paint in acrylic. Stay in the family, so to speak.

    • @vaderetro264
      @vaderetro264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork Not really, it's fine to paint with oils over acrylic gesso. Only the reverse is bad.

  • @adolfodelgado5366
    @adolfodelgado5366 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I do is I make my own gesso, I buy white zink, colbon or Elmer's glue and some water mixed well that went you see it, is a very soft paste not to liquid, between paste and liquid, use a 2 inches brush the ones home Depot sale for like a dollar or two but clean loose hairs out before and spreed all over the canvas let it dry well and if you use a thick canvas sand it down with 120 grid sand paper clean all the dust and give another cover or second hand after it dry sand it again this time with 150 grain or if you want very soft, after the 150 do a 220 grid and it is done, I only do top and sides, the back I don't touch it

  • @miric6224
    @miric6224 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Too bad we didn’t see the whole process. That you either prepared another canvas in advanced or returned to this canvas with second layer. To see the interaction of layer colors.

  • @marokriste1620
    @marokriste1620 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beter is use poor zink couse charcle is to pure with linsed oil

  • @miric6224
    @miric6224 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, what colors of paints? I kept waiting for this info. Is this mixture translucent? I expect it’s not opaque because you keep saying the colors interplay. Would have liked to see you apply the second (3rd) layer (s). To see the interplay of colirs. Not a very good teaching video because it’s incomplete, it mostly showed how to use a palette knife……..just saying…overall, I do like this channel! Thank you.

  • @arduinomasterrobertmoller2904
    @arduinomasterrobertmoller2904 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great, that linseed oil directly on canvas will rot your canvas fast.

  • @vivecalammers
    @vivecalammers ปีที่แล้ว

    Lizard oil???

  • @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork
    @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting method. However, in two to five days I expect to have a completed work executed in oil. Hide glue and chalk are still king here, sorry.