it could be the reason lego themselves haven't made the piece yet could be due to stability and quality control issues. but it's still nice to see what fans can make themselves
That is what they'd want you to think, but it's honestly a combination of pride and prioritizing one-off molds for licensed themes more than anything Pride in that they may view their current inventory as 'flawless' with parts like this being 'unnecessary' and solvable through more convoluted means, with the second point being why things like recolors of the hotly-debated mixel joints haven't seen release They're a multi-billion company, of course they can release them in multiple colors on top of fixing part strength, they just chose not to in favor of appeasing the bigger fish they coattail (your Disneys, Universals, Nintendos, etc) It's been really weird to be honest, to see lego take mega bloks' old direction of super specific one-off molds (a small, useful minority of which lego has even translated over to their system, but would never admit to outright) while mega has inversely sobered up and shifted it's focus towards understanding an streamlining it's in-house system, going so far as to reviving dead molds to avoid the single-use hyperspecifics of the past
There’s nothing that would cause this design to be unstable. I made fifteen of these years ago for my Toa and Nuva (plus a couple extras) only with axle connectors instead of pins so I didn’t need to replace the gearbox. They’re no more unstable than the tow balls with axles or pins, or any other Mixel socket joint. Lego just doesn’t invest in new system/technic elements that aren’t aesthetic. It’s such an obvious counterpart piece to the existing tow balls that I’m disappointed still hasn’t been made official.
GoBricks make excellent brick and technic elements, in a lot of(probably most) cases with better quality than Lego themselves, so i doubt its due to quality control.
@@SchlelkohovI was with you until you tried to say mega bloks is doing something better than Lego. There's a difference between being too poor to afford Lego and thinking they are genuinely worse. And if you think they're worse you're probably delusional
@@Ankh_The_Artist Mega upstaged them at making spongebob and ninja turtle sets, and their system for customizing minions was leagues above the designs lego has out on shelves right now, Kre-o too had trolls sets before lego which lego borrowed ideas from like the cloth cutouts while not adapting the real hair elements that made them function as troll dolls Lego as a company began as a knockoff of the american-based building system kiddiecraft, but they've made many improvements and innovations since then Why then can't rival companies that are just as legitimate a business as lego get the credit they deserve? Step out of your circle and compare, you might be surprised
I hope GoBrick starts knocking off other Bionicle parts as well. Not the heads or masks, but like...joints, limbs, torsos, that sort of stuff. Things that can leave a level of plausible deniability, but still allow MoCists to build Bionicle without having to rely on ever-scarcer pieces being sold for a mint on Bricklink
The current gobricks pieces are the highest quality pieces I have ever seen on the market. Also, calling them a knockoff, when Lego does not produce these is pretty unfair in my opinion.
I've been using this technique in my digital builds for a while thanks to custom parts people made, and it's even cooler seeing how well it works in real life
Pretty legitimage. Shame Lego destroys old molds and doesn't make very many new ones. Reissues make other toy companies millions of dollars and Lego doesn't do them at all. I guess they're afraid of money.
@@toafellha8130 There are some IP connections to some pieces but that doesn't mean much for destroyed molds. Recreations can be made such as the 2010 Hau and the Walmart 'vintage' Rattrap as examples. But these are rarely exact. I imagine Lego could decently recreate some of their old molds for sure, but would they? It's a very expensive process.
@@HueyHolmes thanks, I was just wondering since Resin copies and bootlegs are always floating around, but any rival company has yet to start to do their own original ball-socket theme or start selling multi coloured/ 100x piece packages.
@@toafellha8130 There are some Transformers that use technic ball joints, sockets, pins, axles, and panels they're from Xiaomi, officially licensed products. Lego isn't too concerned about it.
I agree. Not just with Technic builds but also regular Lego build sets I have seen some LEGO variant brands some up with some really cool builds even LEGO never came close to producing, with those fun looking themes came some REALLY COOL parts.
I really hope Lego makes these new mixel pieces. I already use the standard mixel joint function to give Toa Mata/Nuva head articulation, as shown in some of Tammy Calamity videos.
Holy shit this just made the first 4 waves all my favorite now, the 4th wave, hordika are my favorite due to the possibility of it and now I can do that with the first 3 waves now and I can't wait for the pictures I can take and battles I can now have displayed
I use the method at 1:19 for my Self Moc, since he uses a Metru torso. But to make it more rigid, strip out the gears from inside entirely, and use the (copy pasted from Brinklink name) 'Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Angled #4 - 135 degrees', as it fits perfectly with the angles the shoulder socket holes are in the torso. Anyway, just stumbled across this video by chance, and enjoyed it. Might buy those pieces when my next paycheck arrives lol
I have been wanting this piece but with an axle instead of a pin for so long, my custom matoran NEED posable heads, and that would do the trick! These are great too tho
Since 2005 is what got me into Bionicle after getting Turaga Dume and Nivawk for Christmas, I wasn’t around in the beginning and always had a low opinion of the Toa Mata/Nuva and the Toa Metru because of their articulation. Toa Inika will always be my favorite, but this hack here really does so much to improve those older Toa.
Couldn't help but notice that the piece seems to be available in multiple colours. I noticed in the CG videos for the Metru the axle connection to their shoulders are replaced with some flexible colour thing instead (Onewa's is probably where you'll notice it best), so the variety there could be useful for one to one recreations of their motions in the promo cd vids.
I didn't even pick up on the articulate Tahu neck in the thumbnail because I used twisty bread plastic to achieve that and it made me forget that you can't pose mata heads for shit, quite the elegant solution in comparison to that
Oh God! Metru are my favs too, and I’ve ordered 10 black and 10 grey immediately. Thank you for your recommendation! This part really solves an almost 20 year old issue.
I'm a fan of the second method you described with the hand piece, I actually think it adds to the silhouette, but using it as a neck piece is actually fantastic. And it still looks awesome in the metru arms too. Very cool
Having a tow ball on a 2 long axle piece to go in the chest, and a tow socket with a 1 long axle for the arm would be the best combination. I noticed in your setup how the socket rotated freely, which I believe would be an inconvenience. This setup I've imagined would keep the gear function, maintain the original silhouette, and keep the socket fixed relative to the arm.
It's crazy to think that I can be like one of those older people and say things like, "Back in my days, we used to buy these at our local Toys R Us. Kids my age loved these toys. It's a shame they don't have them anymore," about these Bionicles
Damn, last night i just saw something like this, its an stl file with a full collar socket with axel connection used for the toa metru, someone even brought up the fact that part 92906 is so damn close to it
i dont trust the mixels joints for too long like that. they have a little too much give, break a little too easily, to hold up a whole nionicle arm like that. a previous moc i made was a brick-built mech that was about to scale with a big-fig, and all the joints i used for it are worse for wear. i think a similar piece with a bionicle sized socket would work wonders tho!
Doesn't GoBricks have a Mixel socket with a 2-long axle? It would allow users to add shoulder articulation to the Metru torso without nullifying the gear function.
Definitely a sin but if you really wanted to keep the authentic looks of the mata torso, you can just drill a pin sized hole on one side of the middle black piece that has the gear function go through the middle hole.
Cause Bandai constantly reprints old model kits. Since when do you see Lego rerelease the old Bionicle sets, down to the same packaging and relatively same pricing?
I tried this, and it’s alright, but the arms aren’t strong enough to hold up their weapons. If you can get it to stick, it can work for a little bit, but it’ll eventually fail
@@OSSOYTthanks, I actually meant the Matoran neck, I know the non socket part would need a work around but I wanted to see if the piece design includes enough friction/pressure as for the head not to rotate down.
@@toafellha8130 yeah, it works pretty well. You can add a bit of tissue or clay in the pin hole for even more friction but even with the biggest mask (noble rau). It stays up pretty well. I just reattached my Ahkmou to the towball-socket to test it out. Can send pictures if you need.
@@OSSOYT yes please, I actually want to start designing some pieces for studio too, are there any tips you can give? My mail is in my channel description - in the past when I posted my mail/links, TH-cam made the comment non-readable, I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
I beg to differ. I like my teams to look varied. Like each member has a well defined role in the team. Which is why my favourite team is still toa team designwise. (Characterwise too but that's beside the point)
My favorite Bionicle movie when I was a kid was Legend of Metru Nui. Since the Toa Stones were created by Lhikan, I assumed Vakama and the other 5 would look similar to him, like how children look like their parents when they ‘grow up’ (next step in Matoran evolution). People say they hate clone sets but here it made sense, imo.
Waitaminute didn’t someone make a video on this piece with a title like “alternative uses for osso unofficial Lego piece”? If someone finds it, link please
im stumbling upon all this lego bionicle mocs and i want to give it a try but i sold all my sets from childhood a while ago, is there a place to get pieces? even bootleg?
This can be achieved with official Lego using a bush, axle, and ball with axle hole (not through axle hole, just the regular one), then attack a hand connector to the ball, and use a small axle to connect the hand connector to the double-socket Metru shoulder. It looks very nice.
How did you do it with kopaka? It looks like you have the original piece 32034 in there which has an axle connection for the neck? Not a pin connection?
Sigh why do all these cool mods require a bricklink account and god knows what else instead of being able to make it with parts from the official sets. Can someone "link" me to the ball and axle part? since OP has already provided the link for the socket one. Indeed, I see this as a less invasive alternative to the ball and "hand" part but as one commentor stated I am afraid that it'll be less reliable. Should do anyway.
Turn the bgm down, and i don't think it needs to be something so intense. It sounds like you're shouting over rock music. Because you're shouting over Rock music, to be fair.
@@OSSOYTIt's a pun based on it being a rendition of Wily Fortress 1 from Megaman, or, Japanese, Rockman, but also the music for those games is inspired by rock music, too, and I was joking on the classic trope of shouting over rock music.
Seeing this makes it a real shame Lego never made these considering they'd be quite handy in other Lego themes too.
If they had a socket to axel connection that’s also be cool.
These are still fairly new so maybe we’ll see some towball-sockets with 1l axle pop up soon.
@@OSSOYT Plus, if we get them with 2l axles, we can also keep the gear function on Metru/Mata torsos
Mixel socket with axel hole connection is as useful as regular ball socket with axel connection, the customization options are endless.
@@aedaniammx7559I actually asked about that before I saw your comment. I hope they produce it eventually.
Honestly makes sense because even the regular micro ball joints come in the same way for mech feel connectors
Akmou has been cursed by the mask of life to be capable of preforming the gritty.
it could be the reason lego themselves haven't made the piece yet could be due to stability and quality control issues. but it's still nice to see what fans can make themselves
That is what they'd want you to think, but it's honestly a combination of pride and prioritizing one-off molds for licensed themes more than anything
Pride in that they may view their current inventory as 'flawless' with parts like this being 'unnecessary' and solvable through more convoluted means, with the second point being why things like recolors of the hotly-debated mixel joints haven't seen release
They're a multi-billion company, of course they can release them in multiple colors on top of fixing part strength, they just chose not to in favor of appeasing the bigger fish they coattail (your Disneys, Universals, Nintendos, etc)
It's been really weird to be honest, to see lego take mega bloks' old direction of super specific one-off molds (a small, useful minority of which lego has even translated over to their system, but would never admit to outright) while mega has inversely sobered up and shifted it's focus towards understanding an streamlining it's in-house system, going so far as to reviving dead molds to avoid the single-use hyperspecifics of the past
There’s nothing that would cause this design to be unstable. I made fifteen of these years ago for my Toa and Nuva (plus a couple extras) only with axle connectors instead of pins so I didn’t need to replace the gearbox. They’re no more unstable than the tow balls with axles or pins, or any other Mixel socket joint. Lego just doesn’t invest in new system/technic elements that aren’t aesthetic. It’s such an obvious counterpart piece to the existing tow balls that I’m disappointed still hasn’t been made official.
GoBricks make excellent brick and technic elements, in a lot of(probably most) cases with better quality than Lego themselves, so i doubt its due to quality control.
@@SchlelkohovI was with you until you tried to say mega bloks is doing something better than Lego. There's a difference between being too poor to afford Lego and thinking they are genuinely worse. And if you think they're worse you're probably delusional
@@Ankh_The_Artist Mega upstaged them at making spongebob and ninja turtle sets, and their system for customizing minions was leagues above the designs lego has out on shelves right now, Kre-o too had trolls sets before lego which lego borrowed ideas from like the cloth cutouts while not adapting the real hair elements that made them function as troll dolls
Lego as a company began as a knockoff of the american-based building system kiddiecraft, but they've made many improvements and innovations since then
Why then can't rival companies that are just as legitimate a business as lego get the credit they deserve?
Step out of your circle and compare, you might be surprised
I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THESE FOR YEARS
there are so many pieces that you would think exist but just dont.
I'll always love Bionicle regardless of their posability.
There are an obscene number of LEGO part concepts that I'm genuinely baffled aren't a thing already.
I hope GoBrick starts knocking off other Bionicle parts as well. Not the heads or masks, but like...joints, limbs, torsos, that sort of stuff. Things that can leave a level of plausible deniability, but still allow MoCists to build Bionicle without having to rely on ever-scarcer pieces being sold for a mint on Bricklink
I am afraid what you say is dreadfully true, because of skyrocketing prices, the future of Bionicle will be knock off parts.
@@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd If GoBricks makes parts, at least we'll get really good quality parts
I need mctoran parts
The current gobricks pieces are the highest quality pieces I have ever seen on the market. Also, calling them a knockoff, when Lego does not produce these is pretty unfair in my opinion.
Why are we not funding this?!
I've been using this technique in my digital builds for a while thanks to custom parts people made, and it's even cooler seeing how well it works in real life
I didn't think there was a better solution than the ball with axel stop, now I've got some shopping to do.
Really surprised LEGO hasn't made this piece already!
Pretty legitimage. Shame Lego destroys old molds and doesn't make very many new ones. Reissues make other toy companies millions of dollars and Lego doesn't do them at all. I guess they're afraid of money.
Are the pieces, of which Lego destroyed its mold still patent pended?
@@toafellha8130 There are some IP connections to some pieces but that doesn't mean much for destroyed molds.
Recreations can be made such as the 2010 Hau and the Walmart 'vintage' Rattrap as examples. But these are rarely exact.
I imagine Lego could decently recreate some of their old molds for sure, but would they? It's a very expensive process.
@@HueyHolmes thanks, I was just wondering since Resin copies and bootlegs are always floating around, but any rival company has yet to start to do their own original ball-socket theme or start selling multi coloured/ 100x piece packages.
@@toafellha8130 There are some Transformers that use technic ball joints, sockets, pins, axles, and panels they're from Xiaomi, officially licensed products. Lego isn't too concerned about it.
@@HueyHolmes oh yes, I think Ben cossy did a review on megatron. Let's hope the trend continues.
Hopefully Lego get something like this in the near future possibilities for upgrades in revamps I can already can see them
I agree. Not just with Technic builds but also regular Lego build sets I have seen some LEGO variant brands some up with some really cool builds even LEGO never came close to producing, with those fun looking themes came some REALLY COOL parts.
Time to use this for allof the toa metru i dont have
if the mixel socket piece had a 2 long axel connection the metru could still have their play feature
I really hope Lego makes these new mixel pieces. I already use the standard mixel joint function to give Toa Mata/Nuva head articulation, as shown in some of Tammy Calamity videos.
Next thing we need is a mixle-socket-axle-pin, so we can do Mata-Head articulation with this connection. >D
Holy shit this just made the first 4 waves all my favorite now, the 4th wave, hordika are my favorite due to the possibility of it and now I can do that with the first 3 waves now and I can't wait for the pictures I can take and battles I can now have displayed
I use the method at 1:19 for my Self Moc, since he uses a Metru torso. But to make it more rigid, strip out the gears from inside entirely, and use the (copy pasted from Brinklink name) 'Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Angled #4 - 135 degrees', as it fits perfectly with the angles the shoulder socket holes are in the torso. Anyway, just stumbled across this video by chance, and enjoyed it. Might buy those pieces when my next paycheck arrives lol
I have been wanting this piece but with an axle instead of a pin for so long, my custom matoran NEED posable heads, and that would do the trick! These are great too tho
This however, foes work for my ultra-poseable Turaga build arms tho! So it's very fitting to see it on the Toa Metru
Since 2005 is what got me into Bionicle after getting Turaga Dume and Nivawk for Christmas, I wasn’t around in the beginning and always had a low opinion of the Toa Mata/Nuva and the Toa Metru because of their articulation. Toa Inika will always be my favorite, but this hack here really does so much to improve those older Toa.
Damn...This Unofficial Lego Piece Taught Me How To Love Bionicle Again!
Couldn't help but notice that the piece seems to be available in multiple colours. I noticed in the CG videos for the Metru the axle connection to their shoulders are replaced with some flexible colour thing instead (Onewa's is probably where you'll notice it best), so the variety there could be useful for one to one recreations of their motions in the promo cd vids.
Great music choice, also fantastic suggestion. Really appreciate the knowledge share here!
I didn't even pick up on the articulate Tahu neck in the thumbnail because I used twisty bread plastic to achieve that and it made me forget that you can't pose mata heads for shit, quite the elegant solution in comparison to that
Oh God! Metru are my favs too, and I’ve ordered 10 black and 10 grey immediately. Thank you for your recommendation! This part really solves an almost 20 year old issue.
I'm a fan of the second method you described with the hand piece, I actually think it adds to the silhouette, but using it as a neck piece is actually fantastic. And it still looks awesome in the metru arms too. Very cool
That is really slick, thanks for the recommendation!
great video! thank you for sharing!
I finally had a chance to try this out and honestly, the best buy of my life! Thank you so much! 💪
Aw man that's dope, i was always pretty iffy on the silly swinging arms on the Metru gang. Might pick this up for my own Vakama.
this came out in perfect timing of me getting back into Bionicle, many thanks!
This is so dope!
Having a tow ball on a 2 long axle piece to go in the chest, and a tow socket with a 1 long axle for the arm would be the best combination. I noticed in your setup how the socket rotated freely, which I believe would be an inconvenience. This setup I've imagined would keep the gear function, maintain the original silhouette, and keep the socket fixed relative to the arm.
I can instantly think of so many uses for that piece, it's genius
I definitely remember doing the 1st method when i got my Toa Iruini as a kid. Definitely left room for improvement though lol
hehehehehe I’M GONNA GIVE YOU SHOULDER MOBILITY, VAKAMA‼️
It's crazy to think that I can be like one of those older people and say things like, "Back in my days, we used to buy these at our local Toys R Us. Kids my age loved these toys. It's a shame they don't have them anymore," about these Bionicles
This just solved my articulation and design issue
Wow! This is awesome. Thanks for sharing!
Comment for the algorithm. Thanks for the video too!
Oh that piece is amazing!
Dude, I wish I had these growing up! This is a literal game changer!
genius dude! thanks for sharing
What a great piece!
I NEED TO BUY THESE
That is quite handy. I am not sure if I'll try this myself, though.
This piece can def help with mech mocs
F yeah, I just started making my own toa using the Metru figs and this will help me a lot with new projects 🤘, thanks a lot!
Damn, last night i just saw something like this, its an stl file with a full collar socket with axel connection used for the toa metru, someone even brought up the fact that part 92906 is so damn close to it
uh thats nice. gotta buy some 😁
y'know i swear I've seen one of these with an axle instead of a pin connection. would've looked cooler on the mata neck tbf.
ty for posting
Interesting, I'm not a big collector but I kept my Nuva and Metru intact, might buy this in the future
WOW, thats pretty cool, thanks for the tip
i dont trust the mixels joints for too long like that. they have a little too much give, break a little too easily, to hold up a whole nionicle arm like that. a previous moc i made was a brick-built mech that was about to scale with a big-fig, and all the joints i used for it are worse for wear. i think a similar piece with a bionicle sized socket would work wonders tho!
It would be super cool if the same socket existed but with a 2L axle connection
Bionicle fans when moving neck:
You have a nice voice!
Just ordered 100 of them
Doesn't GoBricks have a Mixel socket with a 2-long axle? It would allow users to add shoulder articulation to the Metru torso without nullifying the gear function.
cool stuff!
FOR THE ALGORITHM!!!
Definitely a sin but if you really wanted to keep the authentic looks of the mata torso, you can just drill a pin sized hole on one side of the middle black piece that has the gear function go through the middle hole.
I’m about to go broke buying a bunch of these lol
I just removed the gears from their chest, issue solved 😂 but no side movement
Could you use to toe ball - axel joint upgrade for the legs?
No wonder why bionicle got lost to gunpla.
Cause Bandai constantly reprints old model kits. Since when do you see Lego rerelease the old Bionicle sets, down to the same packaging and relatively same pricing?
That looks like a K’NEX piece
So how secure is the connection regarding the pin? Like not much point in using it if it's just going to flop aroubd loosely with no friction.
No wonder why bionicle lost to Gunpla.
I tried this, and it’s alright, but the arms aren’t strong enough to hold up their weapons. If you can get it to stick, it can work for a little bit, but it’ll eventually fail
I’d try putting wet tissue or clear nail polish.
It's a great piece and ball joints and tow balls do work great together. What about neck articulation?
3:41
@@OSSOYTthanks, I actually meant the Matoran neck, I know the non socket part would need a work around but I wanted to see if the piece design includes enough friction/pressure as for the head not to rotate down.
@@toafellha8130 yeah, it works pretty well. You can add a bit of tissue or clay in the pin hole for even more friction but even with the biggest mask (noble rau). It stays up pretty well. I just reattached my Ahkmou to the towball-socket to test it out. Can send pictures if you need.
@@OSSOYT yes please, I actually want to start designing some pieces for studio too, are there any tips you can give?
My mail is in my channel description - in the past when I posted my mail/links, TH-cam made the comment non-readable, I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
Nice
What a great part! Is the pin hole wide enough to insert those light sword blade bars (LEGO 21462)? Cheers!
@@Senyoln1 yes! I’v done that multiple times
@@OSSOYT Brilliant!
I beg to differ.
I like my teams to look varied. Like each member has a well defined role in the team. Which is why my favourite team is still toa team designwise. (Characterwise too but that's beside the point)
Still think the Metru build is the best of the old school bionicle styles, with Hagah showcasing whats possible when you customize it more.
My favorite Bionicle movie when I was a kid was Legend of Metru Nui. Since the Toa Stones were created by Lhikan, I assumed Vakama and the other 5 would look similar to him, like how children look like their parents when they ‘grow up’ (next step in Matoran evolution). People say they hate clone sets but here it made sense, imo.
Isn’t there literally a piece like this but with a 2L axle? That’d enable the gear AND poseability
No, but there should be.
Waitaminute didn’t someone make a video on this piece with a title like “alternative uses for osso unofficial Lego piece”? If someone finds it, link please
im stumbling upon all this lego bionicle mocs and i want to give it a try but i sold all my sets from childhood a while ago, is there a place to get pieces? even bootleg?
Ive seen this gobricks brand on Amazon, is this peice on their website only or is it available on Amazon? Ill have to check
This can be achieved with official Lego using a bush, axle, and ball with axle hole (not through axle hole, just the regular one), then attack a hand connector to the ball, and use a small axle to connect the hand connector to the double-socket Metru shoulder. It looks very nice.
1:19
How did you do it with kopaka? It looks like you have the original piece 32034 in there which has an axle connection for the neck? Not a pin connection?
87994 is what I use for simple head articulation.
mawtha lol??
Wait a minute! Where did you get those pieces and where are they online? Because I need those pieces😲🤔
Check the description
@@MrSkeleton14 thank you!
Noice.
Sigh why do all these cool mods require a bricklink account and god knows what else instead of being able to make it with parts from the official sets. Can someone "link" me to the ball and axle part? since OP has already provided the link for the socket one. Indeed, I see this as a less invasive alternative to the ball and "hand" part but as one commentor stated I am afraid that it'll be less reliable. Should do anyway.
Turn the bgm down, and i don't think it needs to be something so intense. It sounds like you're shouting over rock music. Because you're shouting over Rock music, to be fair.
Duly noted. Didn’t know Genesis sound font could be mistaken for rock music lmao
@@OSSOYTIt's a pun based on it being a rendition of Wily Fortress 1 from Megaman, or, Japanese, Rockman, but also the music for those games is inspired by rock music, too, and I was joking on the classic trope of shouting over rock music.
Ohhhh I didn’t know you were referring to that kind of rock, man
FOR THE ALGORITHM!!!!!