@@memethingz6004Ethan wasn’t defending Johnny he just said that’s what he expected from Johnny. He felt that Johnny and Colleen seemed like mean girls.
Him saying “little Johnny was all alone 🥺” LMAO you were a whole ass adult Also such weirdo behaviour to think that a performer would drive 2+ hours to pick up an audience member while they’re preparing to go onstage? As SWOOP pointed out, if Josh had come to pick John up THAT would have been very inappropriate
@@user-cx1sx9wp5r He was still being really dumb about it to assume they would come get him just because of an off hand comment saying he should come. Of course they said that. They want people in the audience. But he was also trying to paint himself as a young teen by calling himself "little Johnny". He was trying so hard to compare his situation to Adam's when he met Colleen in Dublin. She really did extend an invitation to Adam. Johnny became obsessed with Josh and is now on his single white male bullshit.
To be fair it was Ian the intern that used to do PowerPoints presentation but then he didn't feel like doing them anymore and told showed Olivia how to do them, he's kind of the unsung hero at h3
I love that Swoop referred to him as “John” because “Johnny” is a fairly juvenile nickname-y name and calling him John seemed like a way to reinforce that this is an adult man who has done most of these horrific things as an adult. It seemed like a very intentional choice.
She also called him Jonathan once or twice, what a power move. It was for sure intentional on her part. And I totally support her in this (and in general). Johnny makes it seem like he was 12 or 13 years old when all this was happening.
i laughed sooo hard when he said that… lord KNOWS that pissed John off with what he’s been trying to accomplish. Like, he is a nobody, but he’s trying to be somebody, so when someone who once gave him a platform makes that statement… it’s gotta hurt.
H3 hiring Olivia quite literally the biggest W. She brings such a unique perspective to the crew. Her powerpoints are my favorite recent segments. Love you Adam 🫶❤️
I started watching H3 because I saw some clips of of Olivia and I loved her. I’ve since come to really like the whole crew overall as well. But overall I think Olivia has added an important perspective and voice that wasn’t being filled. That, and she’s straight up delightful
Definitely. I unsubscribed from h3 because I got sick of all the times they got small but important facts wrong sometimes completely changing the story. Olivia makes sure the facts are straight, gently corrects Ethan, and is sure to make clear when things are alleged and not confirmed. Love that for her.
Although I agree with your take, it’s really unfortunate olivia speaks confidentially about things she’s completely wrong about. This happens a LOT. Not saying in this specific situation but as someone who follows the drama of some things, she’s confidentially gave ethan the wrong information. Which isn’t good. She’s definitely been progressing
Johnny’s family is so creepy. They’re the type of parents who would drive their kid to wait outside a TH-camrs house and then get mad when the TH-camr gets upset.
that's what blows my mind about all of this. his family was in on it as much as johnny was. like they believed josh owed them something, for whatever reason. it's so bizarre.
I know it was annoying to some people that Ethan kept getting confused, but watching the H3 pod live having no clue about the Swoop doc prior, I was also confused at times and him getting clarification helped me understand better. Now I’m watching more content about it after the fact. So I definitely think it’s still a net win! This is a common podcast strategy, where one person acts as the layman with no prior knowledge of the subject at hand. They mirror the viewer, often making it more engaging because they ask questions that the audience is thinking. So while it may be frustrating for people that already have the whole picture, it does serve a purpose!
@heyyitsjudeshe was also very good at keeping herself professional when John said that sexual grooming, of which Swoop is very open about having been a victim of, is not as bad as the grooming he went through, that he will not specify about.
Johnny seems disappointed that no one wanted to groom him. It reminds me of the episode if It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia where Mac is offended that he wasn’t SAed by his teacher when he thought other kids were.
Also like “Josh abandoned me, how COULD he” and then Josh says sorry for that and then Johnny is like “how could you apologize for that! You’re no one! I don’t care that we aren’t friends and I’m offended that you’re acting like I do care. I’m not a stalker” ???????????
Let's get one thing straight, Johnny doesn't love Joshua. Johnny is obsessed with Joshua. This isn't, and should never, be looked at as love. Love should be a beautiful thing where you care for each other, trust each other, respect each other, and would do anything for them. I love my furbabies and would do literally anything for them. This is sick and it's obsession. To be so demented that you would say something horrible about that person whenever you can, as Johnny did because he made sure to drop Josh's name whenever he could with the most amount of hatred he could. He wanted to bring pain to Joshua and that's just not love and no one should ever associate that word with those actions. He's is obsessed and has a big problem that maybe he should be talking to a professional about, because I worry he might take this to another level.
I think Johnny was definitely attracted to Josh. And Josh didn't reciprocate Johnny's advances. I'm thinking Johnny probably was crushed that Josh turned him down. Josh probably told him he wasn't interested in a romantic relationship with him. And I think that when Johnny came out to Josh it wasn't as Johnny claims but it was probably that Johnny told Josh he was interested in him. But Josh told him he was straight and wasn't going to be romantic with him.
There was a lot of unnecessary hate for Ethan and as someone that saw the doc first, it was frustrating to see him defend Johnny: but the last time he had seen Johnny he was supposed to be a victim so it honestly would have been more problematic in the grand scheme of things if Ethan immediately jumped on the Johnny hate train at the first excuse. It is okay that he needed more than a few inconsistencies to turn around.
Right. He actually formed his own opinion, which people on TH-cam don't usually do. It was a little frustrating to watch but he came to the right conclusion in the end. Because the evidence is there, once you realize Johnny is full of it but Adam's story has been the same since day 1
Agree, I mean it took me some time too while watching the doc. It's just healthy scepticism, everyone should have it. As is the motto of "believe victims", we won't immediately accept everything but we will take everything seriously and not dimiss upfront
I agree. For me, at the beginning of the doc, i was sceptical too. but after all swoop found out and how jonny just acted in general, it was just weird, to say the least.
Well he’d also platformed Johnny himself. If I had someone on my show and people later accused them of lying, I’d want the chance to form my own opinion too, to defend myself if necessary. I also think this is a weird situation for Ethan in general because of his fraught history with Trisha. Not excusing him, I did think he was being too flippant at places, but I understand his hesitancy. I would also point out that Johnny, while being a despicable person, is still a victim of Colleen Ballinger’s grooming. He had to learn all of these behaviors from somewhere, and he had the worst role models imaginable.
Yeah I think Adams chat have a bit of a hate boner with Ethan. Maybe they didn't know that Ethan didn't know the latest part of the story and the point of this show was to listen to Olivia do her PowerPoint (graphic design is her passion✨). I notice even the h3 chat gets like this. Imo Ethan was doing the right thing considering he didn't know what happened. He doesn't want swarms of people to attack John Boy. I actually like that he thinks out loud and processes stuff. The same happened when he was going through the Jonah hill story.
Johnny’s smile when he said he likes to ‘picture Josh in jail, just behind bars.’ Was the eeriest, most sinister giant smirk. Watched the whole doc & for some reason that face is etched in my brain 🧠 ESPECIALLY when what he wants him punished for DIDNT HAPPEN!!!!! How demented must one be.
He probably wishes he could be the c.o. Of just his jail cell too if it happened he probably had a whole sick fantasy going in his brain at that very moment
The faces he was making while talking about leaking Trisha’s nudes were so evil as well. “I didn’t think it would be healing for her 😈😁” so disturbing and callous
I believe what Ethan was trying to get across is that Johnny isn't a celebrity, he's not a big name whatsoever and didn't want mobs from H3 which feels like a responsible decision on his part to put up that disclaimer.
I think live chat was being a bit harsh to Ethan. He was learning about it through Olivia's powerpoint and I can see not wanting to immediately rip into someone that he initially thought was a legitimate victim in all this. It's a tricky thing to dive in on without the full context and information because of Johnny framing himself as a victim.
And he was incorrect and it was brought up a whopping few minutes later. His point is kinda on though- hold Johnny accountable but for someone who is this delusional about being a victim-don’t say things to fluff his ego into being some martyr
Honestly yes, I’ve seen Ethan doing it before. He doesn’t start a war with someone until he’s suuure they deserve it. So he plays devil’s advocate at the beginning, but he comes around.
I get what you're saying for sure but I think in the beginning before Olivia got through to the baaaad stuff he was trying to be somewhat charitable. I think he did realize Johnny is not deserving of the benefit of the doubt though. All Swoop's findings are incredibly damning. Also, if you're watching the H3 live when you've seen Swoop's video, you know what's coming and how awful it is.@@casna5400
For anyone who finds Swoop’s content watch time daunting, her videos are just as easy to consume in an audio format. She deserves a listen if you can’t give her a watch.
I watch swoop videos & she did amazing work for gather the information & research to make the ultimate documentary that tells what's going on on the situation. love swoop sm ❤
Johnny: Josh groomed me, we were having conversations about our personal life getting to know each other on an intimate level Also Johnny: Not even knowing the dude personally to this day 🤡
I appreciate Ethan taking some time to stop defending Johnny. We shouldn't instantly disregard a victim without having good reason to. Swoop definitely provided that evidence, but before seeing the doc it makes sense to want to defend him because he's viewed as a victim.
Agreee,I mean it took me some time watching the doc, it's not that I mistrust Swoop, but I do tend to not jump to changing opinions so fast Last Ethan knows John is a victim. Why would he doubt him
@@heathertapper-gq6pk but most of us only know that because of this doc. So before watching it a lot of people thought he was. So it's natural to defend someone you thought was a victim until you've seen otherwise. Ethan hadn't seen the doc yet, he didn't know what was going on. Last time he interacted with Johnny everyone told him Johnny was a victim.
the fact that Johnny learned nothing from Colleens mistakes & doubled down on all this is hilarious. Toxic Gossip Train: Johnny’s Version coming soon? 😂
Ethan is right on the money at 2:36:40. Johnny is gaslighting Josh into believing that Josh groomed him. This is a common manipulation tactic abusers use to not only shift the blame off of themselves, but also to further their control over a victim.
Like you had said: "he's taken something from every victim to become the perfect victim". That realization is so chilling. There's just something so gross, dehumanizing, and in his own words, sinister about using victims stories to gain sympathyv because youre not getting "that kind of attention". Its cold and calculating and evil. So sorry that you are now having to deal with this wolf in sheeps clothing.
He even so happened to be at the same show Becky was at, he’s going so out of his way to be sure that his stories overlap as much as possible to be the perfect victim and the perfect source for the creators covering this
Idk why I was dragged for saying the Trisha tweets were unnecessary & he could have just sent them directly to her. It’s weird that people are just realizing that the tweets should have been removed. It was humiliating & unnecessary. I’m not a fan of Trisha but it was weird.
Yeah he could have sent them to her and if he did feel the need to post them (although a bad idea) he should have censored them much more. He seems to get way too much joy from embarrassing people
And when Johnny defends himself by saying most of them have been taken down… he didn’t take them down. They got taken down and he was locked out of his account for a few days for tos violation. He never took the pics down and, in fact, left one up.
I've been following H3 for almost a DECADE and this is the most fair-minded Ive ever seen Ethan go into something like this, especially where he and his wife and their crew were bold face lied to like that. John Silvestri doesnt deserve such candor, but I am so glad Ethan went in with a level head and let the facts guide him to his conclusions. This is a big win for survivor/victim centered discourse when old asses like us are learning how to really exhibit patience and fairness. Thanks for your endless work to bring these abusers to light Adam!
Honestly, I never understood Johnnys trauma aside from working with collene on tour and sleeping on the bus. I don’t understand what bad things happened to him. He was an adult for a lot of what happened, not that anything happened to begin with.
He had basically said on the DWKT podcast that when josh gave him his number after a show they went on to have a much deeper and concern worthy relationship than in reality. That was why people were listening to his story and giving him the time, he made it out like this inappropriate relationship began before he was a legal adult and that Josh had slipped him his number on the sly. From the time he went on the DWTK podcast, he started adding more and more details that weren’t adding up. The truth is he was under 18 when Josh gave him his number but his parents were with him and were aware of & excited about the fact that Josh had given him his number as opposed to it being this big deal and secret correspondence between them.
I understood the issue with Cory and the bus a little because it almost sounded like Cory blew up on him without any explanation. But now seeing this other side makes me wonder the real story of how he lost room privileges and what he left out
As a long time H3 fan, hearing Adam yelling “hit play, hit play…” towards Ethan is so damn real. Man can’t get through a video to save his life with PEACE AND LOVE.
I'm really happy to see a lot more people online realise how fucking awesome Swoop and her channel is. I can say that I actually have followed her since the start of her channel because she was majorly fucked over by youtube and had her entire channel deleted on accident with no chance of recovery so she had to completely start over with this new one. She's also just an actually good person that gives a shit so deserves all of the love and praise and success. Separately, Mr. Johnny boy's response to Josh's apology really unsettled me at first as it felt like it was a genuine apology that he was ignoring vindictively but I quickly disregarded that as he's entitled to not accept an apology and still be hurt/ angry about "what happened".
I know it feels weird to watch yourself being interviewed during such an emotional time, but I want to tell you that EVERY interview I see of you (especially in this swoop doc) my first thought is “how the hell is he so composed”. You get your thoughts across so clearly and level headedly despite the emotional tsunami you’re riding.
Have I already watch H3’s stream? Yes. Am I thrilled to watch it again with Adam’s thoughts and commentary? Hell yes Keep being you, you’re truly awe inspiring
@@RustyClumps I do too even though I also like people like Jacksfilms shitting on it 😛 (To be clear if you’re completely unfamiliar with who I’m talking about though, he only talks about people who just literally stare at the screen and say like 15 words through the entire video, AKA Jinx, SSSniperwolf, etc lol so it’s different to be fair!)
I am a long time fan of H3 so I just want to say to chat who are saying “Ethan should have educated himself before this” this is the sole reason why Olivia was hired. More things are happening in drama that Ethan doesn’t have time to deep dive in and follow. So he hired Olivia who can not only educate the audience on what is happening but also Ethan live in time. So while you may not agree with what he’s saying in the moment, keep in mind you know more than him as it’s happening. ✌🏼 n ❤️
I wonder if JOHN genuinely believes he was groomed. It seems like he hears real victims' stories & thinks "I interacted with that groomer once, I must have been abused TOO!! 😱" I also wonder if he bonded to Colleen because in his mind, Josh was HIS ex, too
honestly thats how i feel too- i think he has such a loose and flaky definition of grooming that he thinks every interaction he’s had with someone in a slight position of power is him being groomed, and not just him interacting with someone
he probably wants to be, given how easily he disregards true victims. he thinks it's something to be envied and deserve attention for, and that's what he ultimately wants, with that greedy personality. to be envied and to have attention on him.
Based on the way he flip flops and goes back and forth I Genuinely believe he knows he wasn’t groomed. He contradicts himself so much and at different times recognizes he did not actually have an actual real personal relationship with Josh. At one point he says (paraphrasing) not even knowing the dude personally to this day. One time he questions if he’s just harassing them. He sprinkled the truth in a couple times, but his need for attention and villifying Josh for not reciprocating the type of friendship he wanted makes me realize he knows he’s lying he just sees his own needs as being more important than the truth.
@@cady__Mentally ill people are rarely very coherent. Usually they contradict themself all the time, even in the same sentence. I am not saying he is mentally ill, but him contradicting himself doesn't prove he's not.
Tbh with how all over the place Ethan can get, I feel like H3 would be unwatchable if not for Olivia’s ability to rein things in and her adorkable self lol
I am NOT an Ethan fan, but gotta love how he started out like, “we need to take it easy on this humble civilian”….and then he ended up roasting Johnny. 😂
@@4thaluvofthesimsfr and all the times they brought up some random other topic that had nothing to do with the subject matter! h3 is so hard to listen to 💀
all the love to you Adam! props to H3 for updating the story with the freshly fucked up truth Olivia is the absolute best! So happy Josh will FINALLY get the chance to tell his story
Swoop is such a good balanced person, how she sat and listened to half of the vile things that came out of Johnny's mouth without giving away her views is beyond me ❤
I could see the gradually building anger in her eyes when johnny said the most vile bs and it blows my mind that he didn't notice it He's such a narcissist that he thinks everyone automatically believes him
Reading Johnny's tweets is bonkers. "What about ME?? What about MY feelings, Joshua?!?!?!" He screams, at the husband of his idol, who he spoke to a few times online, and showed up to "surprise" visit at different gigs he was doing, barely constituting a friendly acquaintance. Like he is coming off as a legit stalker of Josh and Colleen. Especially Josh. He "groomed" you? He met you, felt sorry for you, thought he could be a sort of big brother to, but you stalked him and scared him with how intensely you latched onto him, and he cut you off! This whole thing has been absolutely insane. Johnny is dangerous.
@@amykru don't write off his behavior as a mental disorder, it takes away the full autonomy and control over his actions and behavior that he has. He should be held fully responsible for everything he's done. He's not mentally unstable, he's a jackass
@@killdestroy69 There are plenty of psychopaths in prison. Here are some of the traits: deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior. Tell me, does this or does this not sound like John Silverster or whatever his name is?
Although I think Ethan more or less gets it, he needs to just watch the documentary. Anyone who hasn't seen it needs to watch it, even if in segments til they're done to get the whole picture. Its worth it and its not hard. Its better than trying to just get a condensed version. The entire doc is chock filled with pertinent info from beginning to end.
@@harleysalemz she did a PowerPoint on that whole situation with Ariana’s scandal this year and she went super easy on her because she’s a fan. Hila held her feet to the fire a bit but overall it was just really biased.
@@maddielopez8625 I thought it was clear she was being hyperbolic and comedic about the cognitive dissonance you feel as a fan when someone you looked up to turns out to be awful in this way. She explicitly states what Ariana did was wrong and not actually excusable during the first video. It’s basically just jarring to see someone you respected turn out so awful and you don’t want to believe it, even if you explicitly acknowledge that you do believe it. They discussed it more in the follow up stream because there were a lot of people who thought she was being super serious. I think it’s just a genre of sarcasm that if you’re not familiar with people using a lot then it’s easy to misconstrue, but I find it weird people continue to misconstrue it even after she’s clarified multiple times now. But she and Ethan did address it in the follow up episode and she reiterates she doesn’t support Ariana. She also explained why she chose to not include some stuff some viewers thought relevant (time, difficulty verifying the claims, some claims debunked, etc).
my gut is usually correct, but seeing johnny on h3 the first time I couldn't shake that something was seriously wrong and got a visceral negative reaction to him. I felt bad for thinking badly of a victim...then the swoop doc came out 👀
Sadly, I believed John but noticed certain things that were off like the over speaking when on H3, the refusal to accept Josh's apologies, and seeming to blame Colleen for having to work as a bartender on a video on his channel. You've got a good gut and are smart to listen to it!
For me it was Johnny’s video reading Josh’s apology and roasting him. The anger really didn’t make sense to me and he seemed the most angry about Josh not talking to him anymore but also was furious that Josh apologized for that???
I didn’t think he was lying but it always seemed like I was missing a huge chunk of context. Apparently because there was no context and there were no details.
The love from the entire H3 cast towards Swoop for her thoroughly researched docu-series just warms my heart. A positive sparkle in what feels like a neverending storm of bull. I can't imagine how exhausted the victims (Adam, Becky, and any other victims who have spoken up and those who have chosen to stay quiet) must be by this point. Air hugs to all of them because no one should have to deal with this kind of shitstorm
Honestly, liars like Johnny are a blessing. They are so desperate to keep your attention and willing to say anything that they out themselves really quickly. SWOOP handled things perfectly by letting Johnny talk so long… she just kept handing him the rope to hang himself.
Olivia was truly the outspoken female energy the pod needed once Trisha left. I’m super glad to see Eli breaking out of her shell a little bit more in the last year and of course love Sam and Lena and Alison dans gf bc they are all wonderful but Olivia!!! She is mother she is queen she is everything she instantly became my fav pod member instantly
I’m glad Adam held his thoughts a certain points to see how Ethan’s viewpoint evolved. Especially because he hasn’t seen the video and is only getting the main points. It’s a lot of information to analyze especially when someone is sharing their thoughts out loud as they are processing. Chat needs to chill on Ethan 😭
Ethan is playing a part-in this convo, he is basically the audience that doesn’t understand the situation-it is a very common thing podcasters use-he knew what they were talking about IMO. Creators usually do not go in uninformed or unrehearsed. And I had some thoughts about the hazel thing. CB wanted to be so in control of Josh that she was expecting him to say yes, I have blue eyes, because you say so. It’s evidence of the abuse he asserted. And it’s not love, JS is obsessed.
If you want to defend a 30+ year old man acting like he can’t comprehend DV without flipping pronouns that’s your business. It’s gross business, but it’s yours.
@@Lucifersfursonaso, wtf? Are you defending CB? Are you CB or Johnny? I’m not defending in particular, just saying that a controlling narcissist does things like that-it’s called gaslighting. Look it up.
thats also the point of the powerpoint segments they do, Olivia (in this case) is supposed to be the expert presenter and Ethan is part of the audience
@@Lucifersfursonai think ethan flips pronouns for the half of his audience that is male and a little less educated on this kind of stuff. half of ethan’s audience is generally more percentage female, more understanding of these topics, and the other half that’s been watching the pod since back in the day is generally the edgier guy archetype. ethan’s whole point of that is to show how blatant the victim blaming is bc a lot of people literally struggle to see how men can be abused. if we don’t educate people with these beliefs in why they should open their minds how do we expect education around DV to ever progress??
Finally someone said it john was in love with josh, the way he calls it a "coffee date" and wants him to come back to make content and the way he texted josh, and on top of it josh distancing himself because of how attached john was, he was in love and mad josh didnt reciprocate and is now trying to destroy him over it, its pathetic
@@bobbiedaniel9347 like he couldn't give a good example of what Josh did that was grooming but gets so excited talking about how he got his number, and traveling out to see all of his shows. The receipts show john was the one tweeting and double texting josh with little to no reply, it sounds like he's was in love and is bitter and malicious about it
He was in lust or obsessed not really love I mean love has a pinch of obsession and lust involved but many other things are missing for it to be love for Johnny towards Josh
Ex-Mentor and Theatre teacher here. Healthy mentorships are absolutely possible, but they require structure, and systems of accountability. I had to do background checks, there was a clear system of report for both myself, and the kids. Boundaries were set to email only, outside of office hours, and emails were always CC’d to my supervisor. While I had personal, and even loving relationships with these kids, while they were in my life, it was never unsupervised, and never outside of the bounds set to keep everyone involved safe. Fandoms ain’t that. Johnny sucks. I feel so bad for Josh. Having someone twist, what genuinely seems like someone who just wanted to help a kid thrive. Adam saying John was in love with Josh makes Josh’s reaction to Johnny coming out make SO MUCH more sense. Also, ALSO, all of the behavior was supervised by his parents, while he was a minor! Adam’s mom, shout-out to you again for seeing danger over dollar signs, and getting your kid out of there!
i think the reason they kept going "you definitely couldn't say to a woman." is because there are people out there who don't blink an eye at that kind of stuff being said to men so it's to remind those people that it's horrific to say and sadly sometimes you need to compare it to being said to/about a woman to get them to empathize correctly.
ethan saying "its different from when i was a kid bc there was no social media, that connection was just not made. but i can imagine how weird it would be if my teacher was in my dms." is so fucking important to keep in mind if youre trying to HEALTHILY mentor a minor as an adult person. he just said it as a passing comment but its such a good explanation of when minor - adult interactions take a weird turn.
Adam I’m glad you brought up the idea of Johnny having feelings for josh and being angry and vindictive because they weren’t reciprocated! That’s the exact way I felt when watching Swoops video, there’s really no other explanation I can come up with as to why he’s so fixated on this man
And I never wanted to say that because I don’t want to perpetuate the idea that queer men are just in love with every man they interact with or push any other harmful stereotypes, but i really can’t see it another way
@@oatmi1k_you aren’t pushing a harmful stereotype from saying what someone is doing. Johnny is vindictive and lying for attention, he’s dangerously fixated on Josh. Speculating there’s a crush behind that is just going from what Johnny did, there’s nothing harmful about that.
it's also interesting how johnny, without being asked, brought up the idea of "maybe he thought I had a crush on him... bold of him to assume he's attractive enough for me"
Perhaps that's also why the focus on the coming out story, where Joshua is setting firm boundaries over something sensitive while John may have fantasized some other reaction.
Praying for a healthy, happy and laughter filled life for your lil one! You too mama! I hope your resting up as well! It’s not selfish to take care of yourself too!
OMG Johnny being just like The Woman Who Wasn’t There is scarily accurate!! They both had to develop the “worst” story and couldn’t just sit happy with the sympathy, they led themselves to their own demise by trying to climb the fame ladder to the top. Then one person saw some inconsistencies and decided to just double check, and it all crashed down. Fantastic comparison, Adam.
Can we all also appreciate how Swoop kept a straight face when she was sitting through all John’s bs and triggering nonsense? Love to Swoop ❤ I got the ick from John’s story being weird but my friends made me feel bad for not believing a victim. Im glad I wasn’t just being insensitive but damn did this slap everyone hard
hearing her take that deep breath to compose herself when john was talking about how his “grooming” was so much worse than sexual grooming TO HER FACE was heartbreaking
She looked so pissed at him several times. The seething "I gotta be calm, I gotta not show it. But if he dares say that again I'll tear him a new one" kind of anger. That took some serious control, but if Johnny wasn't just so damn egocentric he'd have picked up on it.
I know we always talk about how strong and mature you are considering the things you've been going through despite being so young but I hope you won't have to face such betrayals anymore and get to just talk about silly Internet drama and enjoy your teenage years 🙏💕
@@JillyCookeMusic as a 23 year old 20 is still too young for me especially since he's been dealing with this since he was 17 🥺 I cannot imagine myself dealing with sth like this now, let alone 3-6 years ago
@@bonbonnie8 lol calm down, I just wanted to emphasize the fact that he is pretty young and I'm not a native speaker. I didn't know it would disturb so many ppl to say that he is a teenager. Dw from now on I won't say teenager to anyone who is not between the ages of 13-19 thanks to the dictionary. Sorry Adam, clearly it's been so long since you've been a teenager 🙃
Something I learned from this is that when someone doesn't give me a straight answer over and over don't just automatically assume they're socially awkward and can't understand the question. Sometimes when things don't add up and when people can't give a straight answer it's for nefarious reasons.
this is really dangerous rhetoric to be putting online IMO. for those of us who are neurodivergent/on the spectrum, the idea that someone's going around saying "btw, if people seem socially awkward, you should be suspicious of them and not assume they have good intentions" is terrifying.
@@jules8273right? It would be better to say to keep it in mind for the future and at least not dismiss that. If it’s innocent work on phrasing and that.
@jules8273 I totally get your point, I think the comment was more meant in a way if you ask someone over and over again trying to get them to be more specific in one way or another and they still can't give you a better answer and realise things don't add up. However I'm not on the spectrum and can't tell how difficult it can be to answer questions sometimes. All I know is for myself sometimes it's hard to give a straight answer but if someone asks me over and over again and gets more specific it gets easier for me.
I wished I would have seen this live! Watching Ethan “get it” and almost jump out of his chair during Johnny’s “F around and found out” clips, OMG! It’s interesting to see someone reacting live to seeing/hearing all of this! 😮
Adam, please hear this from a fellow survivor of childhood trauma, Johnny cant do shit to discredit your story. He is a despicable person to be doing this, and he is getting what he deserves in what both Swoop and H3 are doing. Please take time to breathe get your new place, and have fun with those lego sets!! Sending you so much love!
I have a really hard time understanding what John was trying to claim. "He groomed me for no reason and didn't do anything, which is basically the worst kind of grooming." ?????
Literally lmaoo “I have no examples of him grooming me and I can’t actually describe how or why he might have groomed me…. which is even WORSE than people who have been through years of SA and abuse” bffr
Personally, I think Johnny did this to deflect from Colleen and help her. Like a “Don’t look at colleen, Josh did this to me and it’s worse!” He was pissed Josh didn’t take him under his wing and mentor him so from then on out, he had it out for Josh. Adam also said that they had team Josh Stan’s and team Colleen Stan’s and they were always competing! Which is weird for a couple. Colleen tried to ruin Josh’s life too and talked crap about Josh in group chats and was obsessed with putting him down after the divorce. I bet Colleen LOVED this cause it took the pressure off her and attacked Josh. I bet u if he went to her shows this year, he’s a Colleen Stan still! This was to help her.
Yeah.. Ultimately it’s the responsible thing to do. Ethan had an audience of 65k and while Johnny should experience consequences for his actions, Ethan and his audience should not be the ones to give him those consequences.
Adam I’m proud of you for your maturity and level headedness. It’s so important to go through this so meticulously. This must be taking so much emotional energy. Thank you for doing the work. PARENTS NEED TO HAVE THIS PUT IN THIER FACES.
Giving someone an apology doesn’t necessarily mean you were wrong. Sometimes it’s healing to just acknowledge how you affected someone. Unfortunately Johnny didn’t deserve it or appreciate it. He needs professional help for anything to get through.
The “he fucked around and found out” is so annoying, I’m glad that’s not being taken lightly. I was 15 when I was SA’d by a 28 yr old man and I blamed myself for so long and even still struggle with holding him accountable because I just think, “how could I let that happen.” But time and healing work helps me remember he was a grown fucking man and I was a child! If you feel this way too, please know it’s not your fault and you are valid. 💜💜💜💜
Adam saying the quiet part out loud - Johnny was in love with Josh. A teen's first love maybe or a major crush, it wouldn't surprise me, given how he's been acting.
The coming out thing not making swoops Final Cut really says a lot about swoop, I’m wondering if that interview with Josh dives further into that question and that’s why she held off talking about it in part 3 but one if the best things about swoop is she doesn’t present anything she can’t back up that’s why we go to petty university 😅
He’s lying about bullying you because he’s using it as one of his small admissions. Liars use these to “show” that they are being honest. “If I’m admitting this wrong on my part, then the rest of what I’m saying must also sound true..”
i think what destroyed him the most was the constant insinuation that HIS trauma is worse and more important than everyone else’s. this really isn’t a competition..
Johnny was a stalker who was denied direct access to his victim and got mad so now he's trying to destroy him. I've got a friend who's going through something similar. Her husband became ab*sive and, now that she's left, he's doing everything in his power to wreck her entire life. So far he cost her her housing, access to her child, stole her car, and currently is sending revenge corn to her friends and family as well as manufacturing things to try and get her arrested. It's what crazy people do when they're being denied access to people they feel entitled to for whatever reason
I can safely say that at the 3 hour and 40 min mark i thought it was winding down and then I spent the last 10 min mouth agape and begging for it to keep going. I'm ready for part 4.
but did you hear how much he was tripping over himself when he said "bold of you to assume i would have a crush on you mr david evans" and how it was legitimately the only time he tripped on his words *that much* apart from him slipping and saying he wanted to talk to boys, anyway
“If you tell the truth you won’t have to remember the lie” - a quote my mom told us alllllll through our childhood and we were very BRUTALLY honest kids Wild to me that he lied and continued to try to lie but couldn’t remember what his initial lie was to keep it consistent 👏🏻 wild how he messed up SO BAD On top of that belittling Josh’s experience with colleen that poor man has lived in shadows for YEAAAARS because he’s had a rough go trying to get mentally better after he got slammed with allegations
Idk about the crush angle, but I absolutely believe Johnny when he said that Josh was "supposed to be his meal ticket to success" I absolutely believe that he was obsessed with Josh and Colleen because he intended to use them to break into social media and enjoyed being fawned over by the kids in the Miranda sings circle
What's weird to me is that I'm sure Johnny has several stories in his arsenal of Colleen taking advantage of him as a former employee...and yet he decides to use other people's.... If he just came out and said "Hey! I might have done some things in the past that I'm not quite proud of but here's what happened to me..." we would all be willing to listen 🤷♀
It says to me he thinks he wasn't "abused enough" to be relevant lol. Like it must have been bad since he was doing stuff like sleeping on the bus but now I feel like that was probably the most obviously questionable thing since he hasn't opened up about much else
@@nailinthefashion he was a young teenager when he became a big part of Colleen's circle so it's hard to believe that he wasn't subjected to some capacity of abuse. However, it seems like he prioritized fame over getting justice for her victims which again, is really weird.
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@@memethingz6004weird take okay
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@@memethingz6004Ethan wasn’t defending Johnny he just said that’s what he expected from Johnny. He felt that Johnny and Colleen seemed like mean girls.
The people who accused Adam of lying for attention 3 years ago are now lying… for attention
Facts
Sweet, sweet irony
@@nailinthefashion and projection!
How ironic!!!!! 🤭
@@nailinthefashionSorry for being random, but I see you on so many channels. I hope your day is going well!
The fact that Ethan said that Johnny is a private citizen and not a content creator is somehow the biggest diss towards Johnny.
Unintentional burn 😂
Lol good point! I didn’t think of that
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"Oh, he has 8k" 💀
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“They abandoned me, left me stranded and starving at an airport! My parents didn’t even know!?”
No Johnny, you’re 20, you’re just at an airport
Him saying “little Johnny was all alone 🥺” LMAO you were a whole ass adult
Also such weirdo behaviour to think that a performer would drive 2+ hours to pick up an audience member while they’re preparing to go onstage? As SWOOP pointed out, if Josh had come to pick John up THAT would have been very inappropriate
"you're just at an airport" lmfao
Right? I went and saw Justin Timberlake. If I had become stranded, I wouldn't have expected Justin to come get me. 😂
@@user-cx1sx9wp5r He was still being really dumb about it to assume they would come get him just because of an off hand comment saying he should come. Of course they said that. They want people in the audience. But he was also trying to paint himself as a young teen by calling himself "little Johnny". He was trying so hard to compare his situation to Adam's when he met Colleen in Dublin. She really did extend an invitation to Adam. Johnny became obsessed with Josh and is now on his single white male bullshit.
@@user-cx1sx9wp5r okay, we’ll change 20 to 18. My sentiment is the same.
The Freudian slip of Johnny saying he wants teenage boys in his dms will go down in history. Those are your fans, not your dating pool. BONK.
Him and James would be besties
That soundbite was so good. Imagine thinking you could fool Swoop of all people. SHE’S A THOROUGH BITCH
@@woadxqueen666LMFAO
When he said boys, it made me imagine that crap & the innocent victims believing his lies.
Yeah, that’s the term adam was grasping for in the video
Ethan: “I have a question.”
Olivia: “I have a slide about that.”
Shoutout to Olivia for making PowerPoints interesting. 👸
Shout out to her for making the pod cast even worth anything.
To be fair it was Ian the intern that used to do PowerPoints presentation but then he didn't feel like doing them anymore and told showed Olivia how to do them, he's kind of the unsung hero at h3
I love that Swoop referred to him as “John” because “Johnny” is a fairly juvenile nickname-y name and calling him John seemed like a way to reinforce that this is an adult man who has done most of these horrific things as an adult. It seemed like a very intentional choice.
"Little Johnny" 😂
She also called him Jonathan once or twice, what a power move. It was for sure intentional on her part. And I totally support her in this (and in general). Johnny makes it seem like he was 12 or 13 years old when all this was happening.
Oh knowing swoop it most definitely was and it was effective
This is SUCH a good point that I wouldn't have picked up on. As someone else here said, power move on swoops part.
ethan said let’s be careful because johnny is a nobody
i laughed sooo hard when he said that… lord KNOWS that pissed John off with what he’s been trying to accomplish. Like, he is a nobody, but he’s trying to be somebody, so when someone who once gave him a platform makes that statement… it’s gotta hurt.
H3 hiring Olivia quite literally the biggest W. She brings such a unique perspective to the crew. Her powerpoints are my favorite recent segments. Love you Adam 🫶❤️
I started watching H3 because I saw some clips of of Olivia and I loved her. I’ve since come to really like the whole crew overall as well.
But overall I think Olivia has added an important perspective and voice that wasn’t being filled. That, and she’s straight up delightful
I love Olivia. She's such a perfect fit.
Same! When Olivia starts a power point I KNOW it's about to be good
Definitely. I unsubscribed from h3 because I got sick of all the times they got small but important facts wrong sometimes completely changing the story. Olivia makes sure the facts are straight, gently corrects Ethan, and is sure to make clear when things are alleged and not confirmed. Love that for her.
Although I agree with your take, it’s really unfortunate olivia speaks confidentially about things she’s completely wrong about. This happens a LOT. Not saying in this specific situation but as someone who follows the drama of some things, she’s confidentially gave ethan the wrong information. Which isn’t good. She’s definitely been progressing
Johnny’s family is so creepy. They’re the type of parents who would drive their kid to wait outside a TH-camrs house and then get mad when the TH-camr gets upset.
that's what blows my mind about all of this. his family was in on it as much as johnny was. like they believed josh owed them something, for whatever reason. it's so bizarre.
I know it was annoying to some people that Ethan kept getting confused, but watching the H3 pod live having no clue about the Swoop doc prior, I was also confused at times and him getting clarification helped me understand better. Now I’m watching more content about it after the fact. So I definitely think it’s still a net win! This is a common podcast strategy, where one person acts as the layman with no prior knowledge of the subject at hand. They mirror the viewer, often making it more engaging because they ask questions that the audience is thinking. So while it may be frustrating for people that already have the whole picture, it does serve a purpose!
That is the format they use in the Small Town Murder podcast and it works really well (and is hilariously funny).
I couldn’t believe Swoop asking how specifically he was groomed and Johnny saying “He has a big ego… and all I got for a prize was a duct tape ball”
girl for real he definitely just has a personal vendetta against the man. not actual grooming.
My jaw dropped
This situation is so wild and serious but I’ve been laughing the entire time bc he is so ridiculous
@heyyitsjudeshe was also very good at keeping herself professional when John said that sexual grooming, of which Swoop is very open about having been a victim of, is not as bad as the grooming he went through, that he will not specify about.
I’d 100% love a duct tape ball because that’s so unique and I’m weird
Johnny seems disappointed that no one wanted to groom him. It reminds me of the episode if It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia where Mac is offended that he wasn’t SAed by his teacher when he thought other kids were.
I also think he was disappointed that Josh apologized so easily, he was like “you can’t apologize already I haven’t milked this enough”
Also like “Josh abandoned me, how COULD he” and then Josh says sorry for that and then Johnny is like “how could you apologize for that! You’re no one! I don’t care that we aren’t friends and I’m offended that you’re acting like I do care. I’m not a stalker”
???????????
or the episode of shameless where kevin pretended to be molested by a former coach
💀 this is so incredibly spot on omg
Let's get one thing straight, Johnny doesn't love Joshua. Johnny is obsessed with Joshua. This isn't, and should never, be looked at as love. Love should be a beautiful thing where you care for each other, trust each other, respect each other, and would do anything for them. I love my furbabies and would do literally anything for them. This is sick and it's obsession. To be so demented that you would say something horrible about that person whenever you can, as Johnny did because he made sure to drop Josh's name whenever he could with the most amount of hatred he could. He wanted to bring pain to Joshua and that's just not love and no one should ever associate that word with those actions. He's is obsessed and has a big problem that maybe he should be talking to a professional about, because I worry he might take this to another level.
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yes! love is mutual, and above all consentual
@@dewdrops8831 it can definitely be a case johnny made accusations that can ruin josh's reputation he could sue for defamation of character.
As someone with ASPD, this is accurate. I don't really love people I just become obsessed with them and what they can offer me
I think Johnny was definitely attracted to Josh. And Josh didn't reciprocate Johnny's advances. I'm thinking Johnny probably was crushed that Josh turned him down. Josh probably told him he wasn't interested in a romantic relationship with him. And I think that when Johnny came out to Josh it wasn't as Johnny claims but it was probably that Johnny told Josh he was interested in him. But Josh told him he was straight and wasn't going to be romantic with him.
There was a lot of unnecessary hate for Ethan and as someone that saw the doc first, it was frustrating to see him defend Johnny: but the last time he had seen Johnny he was supposed to be a victim so it honestly would have been more problematic in the grand scheme of things if Ethan immediately jumped on the Johnny hate train at the first excuse. It is okay that he needed more than a few inconsistencies to turn around.
Right. He actually formed his own opinion, which people on TH-cam don't usually do. It was a little frustrating to watch but he came to the right conclusion in the end. Because the evidence is there, once you realize Johnny is full of it but Adam's story has been the same since day 1
Agree, I mean it took me some time too while watching the doc. It's just healthy scepticism, everyone should have it. As is the motto of "believe victims", we won't immediately accept everything but we will take everything seriously and not dimiss upfront
I agree. For me, at the beginning of the doc, i was sceptical too. but after all swoop found out and how jonny just acted in general, it was just weird, to say the least.
Well he’d also platformed Johnny himself. If I had someone on my show and people later accused them of lying, I’d want the chance to form my own opinion too, to defend myself if necessary. I also think this is a weird situation for Ethan in general because of his fraught history with Trisha. Not excusing him, I did think he was being too flippant at places, but I understand his hesitancy. I would also point out that Johnny, while being a despicable person, is still a victim of Colleen Ballinger’s grooming. He had to learn all of these behaviors from somewhere, and he had the worst role models imaginable.
Yeah I think Adams chat have a bit of a hate boner with Ethan.
Maybe they didn't know that Ethan didn't know the latest part of the story and the point of this show was to listen to Olivia do her PowerPoint (graphic design is her passion✨).
I notice even the h3 chat gets like this. Imo Ethan was doing the right thing considering he didn't know what happened. He doesn't want swarms of people to attack John Boy.
I actually like that he thinks out loud and processes stuff. The same happened when he was going through the Jonah hill story.
Johnny’s smile when he said he likes to ‘picture Josh in jail, just behind bars.’ Was the eeriest, most sinister giant smirk. Watched the whole doc & for some reason that face is etched in my brain 🧠 ESPECIALLY when what he wants him punished for DIDNT HAPPEN!!!!! How demented must one be.
He probably wishes he could be the c.o. Of just his jail cell too if it happened he probably had a whole sick fantasy going in his brain at that very moment
Absolutely creepy
Same, that moment scares me
People like Johnny are terrifying
The faces he was making while talking about leaking Trisha’s nudes were so evil as well. “I didn’t think it would be healing for her 😈😁” so disturbing and callous
I believe what Ethan was trying to get across is that Johnny isn't a celebrity, he's not a big name whatsoever and didn't want mobs from H3 which feels like a responsible decision on his part to put up that disclaimer.
right! the last thing we want is for johnny to be able to cry "internet bullies" and disregard everything else bc "ppl are being mean to me now :("
It is also a legal issue. People who are public figures legally have different standards than lay people. In terms of defamation.
I think live chat was being a bit harsh to Ethan. He was learning about it through Olivia's powerpoint and I can see not wanting to immediately rip into someone that he initially thought was a legitimate victim in all this. It's a tricky thing to dive in on without the full context and information because of Johnny framing himself as a victim.
And he was incorrect and it was brought up a whopping few minutes later. His point is kinda on though- hold Johnny accountable but for someone who is this delusional about being a victim-don’t say things to fluff his ego into being some martyr
Their live chat is always brutal
Honestly yes, I’ve seen Ethan doing it before. He doesn’t start a war with someone until he’s suuure they deserve it. So he plays devil’s advocate at the beginning, but he comes around.
I get what you're saying for sure but I think in the beginning before Olivia got through to the baaaad stuff he was trying to be somewhat charitable. I think he did realize Johnny is not deserving of the benefit of the doubt though. All Swoop's findings are incredibly damning. Also, if you're watching the H3 live when you've seen Swoop's video, you know what's coming and how awful it is.@@casna5400
Can we ALL agree that it's great to see Adam smile?! 🥰🥳🌞‼
For anyone who finds Swoop’s content watch time daunting, her videos are just as easy to consume in an audio format. She deserves a listen if you can’t give her a watch.
agree, i watched it once but listened to it like 5 times
100%, love it for work
Yep, I do my housework and listening to her videos! 😊
I watch swoop videos & she did amazing work for gather the information & research to make the ultimate documentary that tells what's going on on the situation. love swoop sm ❤
@@nicanonymus2491I do the same!! She makes time move quicker!
Johnny: Josh groomed me, we were having conversations about our personal life getting to know each other on an intimate level
Also Johnny: Not even knowing the dude personally to this day
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he’s like a delusional fan who thought he was dating josh in his head
@@drownziwhen he talks about it he does give stalker like he thought they were deeper than they were, he showed up to, harassing him, etc.
righttt like imagine a stranger making up some crazy ass shit about u.. I would freak tf out on johnny cause no way
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Literally been saying this too!!
I appreciate Ethan taking some time to stop defending Johnny. We shouldn't instantly disregard a victim without having good reason to. Swoop definitely provided that evidence, but before seeing the doc it makes sense to want to defend him because he's viewed as a victim.
Agreee,I mean it took me some time watching the doc, it's not that I mistrust Swoop, but I do tend to not jump to changing opinions so fast
Last Ethan knows John is a victim. Why would he doubt him
agree!
John is no victim
@@heathertapper-gq6pk but most of us only know that because of this doc. So before watching it a lot of people thought he was. So it's natural to defend someone you thought was a victim until you've seen otherwise. Ethan hadn't seen the doc yet, he didn't know what was going on. Last time he interacted with Johnny everyone told him Johnny was a victim.
Okay but Ethan didn't know that at first@@heathertapper-gq6pk
the fact that Johnny learned nothing from Colleens mistakes & doubled down on all this is hilarious. Toxic Gossip Train: Johnny’s Version coming soon? 😂
lol johnny club remix
Didn’t he make one? lol
@@abigailjolene Yes, and worst of all:
1) he did it to copy Adam, and 2) it WASNT EVEN GOOD 💯
I’ll die if he pulls out a harmonica or something☠️
Ethan is right on the money at 2:36:40. Johnny is gaslighting Josh into believing that Josh groomed him. This is a common manipulation tactic abusers use to not only shift the blame off of themselves, but also to further their control over a victim.
DARVO, anyone?
@@BeehiveBoytook the words right out of my mouth
Not Johnny totally disregarding that sexual grooming/sexual assault is about power. The motive for it IS power
He's conceited and thinks it's about attraction I bet
exactly n just shows u that he doesn't get it and never been through it, disgusting
Exactly. It goes hand in hand
100%!!!!!
@@woadxqueen666exactly, and he’s salty that he wasn’t sexually groomed by Josh
Like you had said: "he's taken something from every victim to become the perfect victim". That realization is so chilling. There's just something so gross, dehumanizing, and in his own words, sinister about using victims stories to gain sympathyv because youre not getting "that kind of attention". Its cold and calculating and evil. So sorry that you are now having to deal with this wolf in sheeps clothing.
He even so happened to be at the same show Becky was at, he’s going so out of his way to be sure that his stories overlap as much as possible to be the perfect victim and the perfect source for the creators covering this
Feels like a kindergarten playtime and that one kids like “ACTUALLY I HAVE ALL THE POWERS”
They need to bring back Oliver and Becky so they can fully speak their stories
Ethan: "I feel so bad having to question it." And that is EXACTLY what Johnny was COUNTING on.
Idk why I was dragged for saying the Trisha tweets were unnecessary & he could have just sent them directly to her. It’s weird that people are just realizing that the tweets should have been removed. It was humiliating & unnecessary. I’m not a fan of Trisha but it was weird.
Yeah he could have sent them to her and if he did feel the need to post them (although a bad idea) he should have censored them much more. He seems to get way too much joy from embarrassing people
I think he’s been working with Colleen and he’s trying to re-traumatize her victims.
And when Johnny defends himself by saying most of them have been taken down… he didn’t take them down. They got taken down and he was locked out of his account for a few days for tos violation. He never took the pics down and, in fact, left one up.
@@aleciahansen7859probably considering he hasn't shit talked her at all but he was around her on tour
the fact that Swoop added it took 20 minutes to persuade him to consider even taking the tweets down is really telling
I've been following H3 for almost a DECADE and this is the most fair-minded Ive ever seen Ethan go into something like this, especially where he and his wife and their crew were bold face lied to like that. John Silvestri doesnt deserve such candor, but I am so glad Ethan went in with a level head and let the facts guide him to his conclusions. This is a big win for survivor/victim centered discourse when old asses like us are learning how to really exhibit patience and fairness. Thanks for your endless work to bring these abusers to light Adam!
Honestly, I never understood Johnnys trauma aside from working with collene on tour and sleeping on the bus. I don’t understand what bad things happened to him. He was an adult for a lot of what happened, not that anything happened to begin with.
This I was always confused and waiting for more elaboration
He had basically said on the DWKT podcast that when josh gave him his number after a show they went on to have a much deeper and concern worthy relationship than in reality. That was why people were listening to his story and giving him the time, he made it out like this inappropriate relationship began before he was a legal adult and that Josh had slipped him his number on the sly. From the time he went on the DWTK podcast, he started adding more and more details that weren’t adding up. The truth is he was under 18 when Josh gave him his number but his parents were with him and were aware of & excited about the fact that Josh had given him his number as opposed to it being this big deal and secret correspondence between them.
John: just wait for parts 2, 3, 4-- lemme hear you scream if you want s'more!
Me: did you just quote perfect (exceeder) at us
Don’t forget he had to walk a mile to eat fast food 😢
I understood the issue with Cory and the bus a little because it almost sounded like Cory blew up on him without any explanation. But now seeing this other side makes me wonder the real story of how he lost room privileges and what he left out
Dans the dad that didn't want a dog, and each PowerPoint Olivia makes is the dog that he's falling more and more in love with..
that is fucking hilarious and true
As a long time H3 fan, hearing Adam yelling “hit play, hit play…” towards Ethan is so damn real. Man can’t get through a video to save his life with PEACE AND LOVE.
I'm really happy to see a lot more people online realise how fucking awesome Swoop and her channel is. I can say that I actually have followed her since the start of her channel because she was majorly fucked over by youtube and had her entire channel deleted on accident with no chance of recovery so she had to completely start over with this new one. She's also just an actually good person that gives a shit so deserves all of the love and praise and success.
Separately, Mr. Johnny boy's response to Josh's apology really unsettled me at first as it felt like it was a genuine apology that he was ignoring vindictively but I quickly disregarded that as he's entitled to not accept an apology and still be hurt/ angry about "what happened".
johnny totally used josh’s apology as a way to heighten his story and make it seem worse than it was.
@@accioyoongisame I was so sad because she like hardly ever uploaded for a bit but my god she came back with a bang
@@accioyoongiSAME!!
@accioyoongi same here, dropped g&g like a hot rock because of that disgusting behaviour
I know it feels weird to watch yourself being interviewed during such an emotional time, but I want to tell you that EVERY interview I see of you (especially in this swoop doc) my first thought is “how the hell is he so composed”. You get your thoughts across so clearly and level headedly despite the emotional tsunami you’re riding.
SAME ❤
Have I already watch H3’s stream? Yes. Am I thrilled to watch it again with Adam’s thoughts and commentary? Hell yes
Keep being you, you’re truly awe inspiring
Watching a reaction to a reaction to a video… I love react content! 😂 [edit: I mean that sincerely tho]
@@RustyClumps I do too even though I also like people like Jacksfilms shitting on it 😛
(To be clear if you’re completely unfamiliar with who I’m talking about though, he only talks about people who just literally stare at the screen and say like 15 words through the entire video, AKA Jinx, SSSniperwolf, etc lol so it’s different to be fair!)
yaay same ❤ FAMILYY
I am a long time fan of H3 so I just want to say to chat who are saying “Ethan should have educated himself before this” this is the sole reason why Olivia was hired. More things are happening in drama that Ethan doesn’t have time to deep dive in and follow. So he hired Olivia who can not only educate the audience on what is happening but also Ethan live in time. So while you may not agree with what he’s saying in the moment, keep in mind you know more than him as it’s happening. ✌🏼 n ❤️
I wonder if JOHN genuinely believes he was groomed. It seems like he hears real victims' stories & thinks "I interacted with that groomer once, I must have been abused TOO!! 😱"
I also wonder if he bonded to Colleen because in his mind, Josh was HIS ex, too
honestly thats how i feel too- i think he has such a loose and flaky definition of grooming that he thinks every interaction he’s had with someone in a slight position of power is him being groomed, and not just him interacting with someone
he probably wants to be, given how easily he disregards true victims. he thinks it's something to be envied and deserve attention for, and that's what he ultimately wants, with that greedy personality. to be envied and to have attention on him.
Based on the way he flip flops and goes back and forth I
Genuinely believe he knows he wasn’t groomed. He contradicts himself so much and at different times recognizes he did not actually have an actual real personal relationship with Josh. At one point he says (paraphrasing) not even knowing the dude personally to this day. One time he questions if he’s just harassing them. He sprinkled the truth in a couple times, but his need for attention and villifying Josh for not reciprocating the type of friendship he wanted makes me realize he knows he’s lying he just sees his own needs as being more important than the truth.
@@cady__Mentally ill people are rarely very coherent. Usually they contradict themself all the time, even in the same sentence. I am not saying he is mentally ill, but him contradicting himself doesn't prove he's not.
@@Struudelilet’s not bring mental illness into this when it hasn’t been
Olivia was definitely giving mother this entire segment.✨
Plus her makeup is always so pretty to look at 😻
@@juliamouyalyesss and i’m usually not a fan of super bright blush but she looks so good with it
Tbh with how all over the place Ethan can get, I feel like H3 would be unwatchable if not for Olivia’s ability to rein things in and her adorkable self lol
I am NOT an Ethan fan, but gotta love how he started out like, “we need to take it easy on this humble civilian”….and then he ended up roasting Johnny. 😂
This whole stream I just wanted to scream LET HER COOK LET OLIVIA COOOOOK
Me too, I was getting annoyed they kept pausing and talking about being confused I'm like CONTINUEE IT ALL MAKES SENSE LOL
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she is a saint for presenting this to them 💀
@@4thaluvofthesimsfr and all the times they brought up some random other topic that had nothing to do with the subject matter! h3 is so hard to listen to 💀
@@drownzihe has adhd btw
I love Olivia and how passionate and empathically she covers this. Her power points are my favorite new segment on the show
all the love to you Adam!
props to H3 for updating the story with the freshly fucked up truth
Olivia is the absolute best!
So happy Josh will FINALLY get the chance to tell his story
He may just be done with this. But if he still has trauma, it may help him. I wonder also if he has some kind of NDA from the divorce.
Swoop is such a good balanced person, how she sat and listened to half of the vile things that came out of Johnny's mouth without giving away her views is beyond me ❤
I could see the gradually building anger in her eyes when johnny said the most vile bs and it blows my mind that he didn't notice it
He's such a narcissist that he thinks everyone automatically believes him
@@SabertoothedTiger69 Johnny most likely thought the anger in her eyes (if he noticed it) was for him because of what happened to him not at him
@@rebeccaabram2312I think this is what he may have thought too!
Reading Johnny's tweets is bonkers. "What about ME?? What about MY feelings, Joshua?!?!?!" He screams, at the husband of his idol, who he spoke to a few times online, and showed up to "surprise" visit at different gigs he was doing, barely constituting a friendly acquaintance.
Like he is coming off as a legit stalker of Josh and Colleen. Especially Josh. He "groomed" you? He met you, felt sorry for you, thought he could be a sort of big brother to, but you stalked him and scared him with how intensely you latched onto him, and he cut you off!
This whole thing has been absolutely insane. Johnny is dangerous.
When Johnny says SA is 'cut and dry' it makes me want to rip my hair out. It's so disgusting & disturbing.
Its just so awful that johnny would fabricate his story or even lie about what happened. I really hope he can get some help.
Is there help for psychopathy?
@@amykru don't write off his behavior as a mental disorder, it takes away the full autonomy and control over his actions and behavior that he has. He should be held fully responsible for everything he's done. He's not mentally unstable, he's a jackass
@@killdestroy69 There are plenty of psychopaths in prison. Here are some of the traits: deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior. Tell me, does this or does this not sound like John Silverster or whatever his name is?
@@amykruno it does not shordy
Although I think Ethan more or less gets it, he needs to just watch the documentary. Anyone who hasn't seen it needs to watch it, even if in segments til they're done to get the whole picture. Its worth it and its not hard. Its better than trying to just get a condensed version. The entire doc is chock filled with pertinent info from beginning to end.
I love how Olivia says it straight
Like it is, she's amazing.
Except with Ariana Grande 😂
@@maddielopez8625 wait, what did she say about Ariana grande?
@@harleysalemz she did a PowerPoint on that whole situation with Ariana’s scandal this year and she went super easy on her because she’s a fan. Hila held her feet to the fire a bit but overall it was just really biased.
@@maddielopez8625 honestly I couldn't even finish that video because she annoyed me so much
@@maddielopez8625 I thought it was clear she was being hyperbolic and comedic about the cognitive dissonance you feel as a fan when someone you looked up to turns out to be awful in this way. She explicitly states what Ariana did was wrong and not actually excusable during the first video. It’s basically just jarring to see someone you respected turn out so awful and you don’t want to believe it, even if you explicitly acknowledge that you do believe it. They discussed it more in the follow up stream because there were a lot of people who thought she was being super serious. I think it’s just a genre of sarcasm that if you’re not familiar with people using a lot then it’s easy to misconstrue, but I find it weird people continue to misconstrue it even after she’s clarified multiple times now. But she and Ethan did address it in the follow up episode and she reiterates she doesn’t support Ariana. She also explained why she chose to not include some stuff some viewers thought relevant (time, difficulty verifying the claims, some claims debunked, etc).
I love them all asking Olivia questions, it's like a classroom full of students asking their teacher lol
“I grew up in a very catholic conservative household…loosely.” Which one is it, Johnny? Was it *very* or *loosely*?
my gut is usually correct, but seeing johnny on h3 the first time I couldn't shake that something was seriously wrong and got a visceral negative reaction to him. I felt bad for thinking badly of a victim...then the swoop doc came out 👀
Agree!!! I felt this same feeling watching Johnny on the ‘Do We Know Them’ podcast! I couldn’t even finish the episode. My gut felt something off.
Sadly, I believed John but noticed certain things that were off like the over speaking when on H3, the refusal to accept Josh's apologies, and seeming to blame Colleen for having to work as a bartender on a video on his channel. You've got a good gut and are smart to listen to it!
For me it was Johnny’s video reading Josh’s apology and roasting him. The anger really didn’t make sense to me and he seemed the most angry about Josh not talking to him anymore but also was furious that Josh apologized for that???
I didn’t think he was lying but it always seemed like I was missing a huge chunk of context. Apparently because there was no context and there were no details.
he seemed entirely too eager about the attention he was receiving, which kind of urked me.
The love from the entire H3 cast towards Swoop for her thoroughly researched docu-series just warms my heart. A positive sparkle in what feels like a neverending storm of bull. I can't imagine how exhausted the victims (Adam, Becky, and any other victims who have spoken up and those who have chosen to stay quiet) must be by this point. Air hugs to all of them because no one should have to deal with this kind of shitstorm
Agreed. Swoop deserves the accolades fo sho
I was cracking up whenever Ethan yelled SWOOP 😂
The way Ethan keeps calling Johnny a nobody 😭
John is Seething
Honestly, liars like Johnny are a blessing. They are so desperate to keep your attention and willing to say anything that they out themselves really quickly. SWOOP handled things perfectly by letting Johnny talk so long… she just kept handing him the rope to hang himself.
Olivia was truly the outspoken female energy the pod needed once Trisha left. I’m super glad to see Eli breaking out of her shell a little bit more in the last year and of course love Sam and Lena and Alison dans gf bc they are all wonderful but Olivia!!! She is mother she is queen she is everything she instantly became my fav pod member instantly
I’m glad Adam held his thoughts a certain points to see how Ethan’s viewpoint evolved. Especially because he hasn’t seen the video and is only getting the main points. It’s a lot of information to analyze especially when someone is sharing their thoughts out loud as they are processing. Chat needs to chill on Ethan 😭
I know 😂 I was trying explain that this is how Ethan always is 😆
Ethan is playing a part-in this convo, he is basically the audience that doesn’t understand the situation-it is a very common thing podcasters use-he knew what they were talking about IMO. Creators usually do not go in uninformed or unrehearsed. And I had some thoughts about the hazel thing. CB wanted to be so in control of Josh that she was expecting him to say yes, I have blue eyes, because you say so. It’s evidence of the abuse he asserted.
And it’s not love, JS is obsessed.
If you want to defend a 30+ year old man acting like he can’t comprehend DV without flipping pronouns that’s your business. It’s gross business, but it’s yours.
@@Lucifersfursonaso, wtf? Are you defending CB? Are you CB or Johnny? I’m not defending in particular, just saying that a controlling narcissist does things like that-it’s called gaslighting. Look it up.
thats also the point of the powerpoint segments they do, Olivia (in this case) is supposed to be the expert presenter and Ethan is part of the audience
@@Lucifersfursonai think ethan flips pronouns for the half of his audience that is male and a little less educated on this kind of stuff. half of ethan’s audience is generally more percentage female, more understanding of these topics, and the other half that’s been watching the pod since back in the day is generally the edgier guy archetype. ethan’s whole point of that is to show how blatant the victim blaming is bc a lot of people literally struggle to see how men can be abused. if we don’t educate people with these beliefs in why they should open their minds how do we expect education around DV to ever progress??
Whooooaaaa the blue eyes point is so true and so weird 😣😣
Finally someone said it john was in love with josh, the way he calls it a "coffee date" and wants him to come back to make content and the way he texted josh, and on top of it josh distancing himself because of how attached john was, he was in love and mad josh didnt reciprocate and is now trying to destroy him over it, its pathetic
Makes sense to me
@@bobbiedaniel9347 like he couldn't give a good example of what Josh did that was grooming but gets so excited talking about how he got his number, and traveling out to see all of his shows. The receipts show john was the one tweeting and double texting josh with little to no reply, it sounds like he's was in love and is bitter and malicious about it
yeah he made out like Josh was obsessed with him but it was the other way round from what Swoop showed of their DMs
He was in lust or obsessed not really love I mean love has a pinch of obsession and lust involved but many other things are missing for it to be love for Johnny towards Josh
Ex-Mentor and Theatre teacher here. Healthy mentorships are absolutely possible, but they require structure, and systems of accountability. I had to do background checks, there was a clear system of report for both myself, and the kids. Boundaries were set to email only, outside of office hours, and emails were always CC’d to my supervisor. While I had personal, and even loving relationships with these kids, while they were in my life, it was never unsupervised, and never outside of the bounds set to keep everyone involved safe. Fandoms ain’t that. Johnny sucks.
I feel so bad for Josh. Having someone twist, what genuinely seems like someone who just wanted to help a kid thrive. Adam saying John was in love with Josh makes Josh’s reaction to Johnny coming out make SO MUCH more sense. Also, ALSO, all of the behavior was supervised by his parents, while he was a minor!
Adam’s mom, shout-out to you again for seeing danger over dollar signs, and getting your kid out of there!
i think the reason they kept going "you definitely couldn't say to a woman." is because there are people out there who don't blink an eye at that kind of stuff being said to men so it's to remind those people that it's horrific to say and sadly sometimes you need to compare it to being said to/about a woman to get them to empathize correctly.
ethan saying "its different from when i was a kid bc there was no social media, that connection was just not made. but i can imagine how weird it would be if my teacher was in my dms." is so fucking important to keep in mind if youre trying to HEALTHILY mentor a minor as an adult person. he just said it as a passing comment but its such a good explanation of when minor - adult interactions take a weird turn.
the way johnny says “we’re not talking about that anymore. he had every opportunity to talk about that in 2016” is sooooooooo condescending and gross.
Thank god Olivia is there to keep Ethan on track and bring it back to the actual points of
the original story
Including him questioning SWOOP's government name.
@@liriodendronlasianthus yeah that was so odd
So glad they did cover this,Olivia’s detail is amazing, we love her !
Adam I’m glad you brought up the idea of Johnny having feelings for josh and being angry and vindictive because they weren’t reciprocated! That’s the exact way I felt when watching Swoops video, there’s really no other explanation I can come up with as to why he’s so fixated on this man
And I never wanted to say that because I don’t want to perpetuate the idea that queer men are just in love with every man they interact with or push any other harmful stereotypes, but i really can’t see it another way
@@oatmi1k_you aren’t pushing a harmful stereotype from saying what someone is doing. Johnny is vindictive and lying for attention, he’s dangerously fixated on Josh. Speculating there’s a crush behind that is just going from what Johnny did, there’s nothing harmful about that.
it's also interesting how johnny, without being asked, brought up the idea of "maybe he thought I had a crush on him... bold of him to assume he's attractive enough for me"
Perhaps that's also why the focus on the coming out story, where Joshua is setting firm boundaries over something sensitive while John may have fantasized some other reaction.
I'm currently nursing my newborn, so I was able to watch the entire Swoop Documentary during feedings. They did an amazing job on it.
Congrats! Give the lil one smooches for me 🤗
Praying for a healthy, happy and laughter filled life for your lil one! You too mama! I hope your resting up as well! It’s not selfish to take care of yourself too!
Everything best for you and your little one♡
Love to you and your little bundle of joy💕
Congrats on the baby, mama! Hope you’re both well. Blessings to your family!
OMG Johnny being just like The Woman Who Wasn’t There is scarily accurate!! They both had to develop the “worst” story and couldn’t just sit happy with the sympathy, they led themselves to their own demise by trying to climb the fame ladder to the top. Then one person saw some inconsistencies and decided to just double check, and it all crashed down. Fantastic comparison, Adam.
Can we all also appreciate how Swoop kept a straight face when she was sitting through all John’s bs and triggering nonsense? Love to Swoop ❤ I got the ick from John’s story being weird but my friends made me feel bad for not believing a victim. Im glad I wasn’t just being insensitive but damn did this slap everyone hard
hearing her take that deep breath to compose herself when john was talking about how his “grooming” was so much worse than sexual grooming TO HER FACE was heartbreaking
She looked so pissed at him several times. The seething "I gotta be calm, I gotta not show it. But if he dares say that again I'll tear him a new one" kind of anger.
That took some serious control, but if Johnny wasn't just so damn egocentric he'd have picked up on it.
I know we always talk about how strong and mature you are considering the things you've been going through despite being so young but I hope you won't have to face such betrayals anymore and get to just talk about silly Internet drama and enjoy your teenage years 🙏💕
He's 20, but I completely agree with the sentiment.
@@JillyCookeMusic as a 23 year old 20 is still too young for me especially since he's been dealing with this since he was 17 🥺 I cannot imagine myself dealing with sth like this now, let alone 3-6 years ago
@@bxx3366 ok, but he's still not a teenager. i'm in my early 30s, so what is he to me? a toddler?^^
@@bonbonnie8 lol calm down, I just wanted to emphasize the fact that he is pretty young and I'm not a native speaker. I didn't know it would disturb so many ppl to say that he is a teenager. Dw from now on I won't say teenager to anyone who is not between the ages of 13-19 thanks to the dictionary. Sorry Adam, clearly it's been so long since you've been a teenager 🙃
Something I learned from this is that when someone doesn't give me a straight answer over and over don't just automatically assume they're socially awkward and can't understand the question. Sometimes when things don't add up and when people can't give a straight answer it's for nefarious reasons.
this is really dangerous rhetoric to be putting online IMO. for those of us who are neurodivergent/on the spectrum, the idea that someone's going around saying "btw, if people seem socially awkward, you should be suspicious of them and not assume they have good intentions" is terrifying.
@@jules8273right? It would be better to say to keep it in mind for the future and at least not dismiss that. If it’s innocent work on phrasing and that.
That’s why they probably put the word “sometimes”
Me personally I’m suspicious of everyone new to begin with and don’t need to read a comment to think that way
@jules8273 I totally get your point, I think the comment was more meant in a way if you ask someone over and over again trying to get them to be more specific in one way or another and they still can't give you a better answer and realise things don't add up.
However I'm not on the spectrum and can't tell how difficult it can be to answer questions sometimes.
All I know is for myself sometimes it's hard to give a straight answer but if someone asks me over and over again and gets more specific it gets easier for me.
I wished I would have seen this live! Watching Ethan “get it” and almost jump out of his chair during Johnny’s “F around and found out” clips, OMG! It’s interesting to see someone reacting live to seeing/hearing all of this! 😮
Johnny is mad that Joshua DID NOT sexually groom him.
Adam, please hear this from a fellow survivor of childhood trauma, Johnny cant do shit to discredit your story. He is a despicable person to be doing this, and he is getting what he deserves in what both Swoop and H3 are doing. Please take time to breathe get your new place, and have fun with those lego sets!! Sending you so much love!
I have a really hard time understanding what John was trying to claim. "He groomed me for no reason and didn't do anything, which is basically the worst kind of grooming." ?????
Literally lmaoo “I have no examples of him grooming me and I can’t actually describe how or why he might have groomed me…. which is even WORSE than people who have been through years of SA and abuse” bffr
Personally, I think Johnny did this to deflect from Colleen and help her. Like a “Don’t look at colleen, Josh did this to me and it’s worse!” He was pissed Josh didn’t take him under his wing and mentor him so from then on out, he had it out for Josh. Adam also said that they had team Josh Stan’s and team Colleen Stan’s and they were always competing! Which is weird for a couple. Colleen tried to ruin Josh’s life too and talked crap about Josh in group chats and was obsessed with putting him down after the divorce. I bet Colleen LOVED this cause it took the pressure off her and attacked Josh. I bet u if he went to her shows this year, he’s a Colleen Stan still! This was to help her.
i agree 100% ! someone else pointed out that they're still following him
@@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195plus he was still going to shows long after he stopped working for her
I think Ethan said what Johnny was a "private person" is because he might also sense that Johnny is an unstable individual.
He didn't know that Johnny has his own fans yet
Yeah.. Ultimately it’s the responsible thing to do. Ethan had an audience of 65k and while Johnny should experience consequences for his actions, Ethan and his audience should not be the ones to give him those consequences.
Adam I’m proud of you for your maturity and level headedness. It’s so important to go through this so meticulously. This must be taking so much emotional energy. Thank you for doing the work. PARENTS NEED TO HAVE THIS PUT IN THIER FACES.
Johnny out here with one long, 6 hour freudian slip
I’m wondering if Johnny thought Swoop was doing a Shane Dawson level ‘documentary’ and not… you know, actual journalism???
Olivia is such a great addition to H3. Every crew member is just a perfect fit for the show. They did a great job covering this.
You know the whole H3 team is PISSED Johnny lied to them.
I’m not surprised it’s pretty valid why they are!
@@ikathiibeanright everyone deserves to be mad
@@a.r.mproductions5616 lmao ik
Ethan is not pissed 😂 more content more views!
4 hour swoop vid, 4 hour h3 reaction to swoop vid, 3 hr Adam reaction to h3 reaction😭😭😭😭 and yes im watching all 11 hours lmaoooo (thx a lot johnny!)😂
Same!! Lol
omg same. i watched swoops video twice during my 6 hr drive 😂
We’re being fed today children 😮💨
@lillikoi948 i was literally rewatching h3 this morn and then i saw adam posted and i was like GODDAMN guess i'm watching it again😂😭😅
TRISHA IS COVERING IT ON HER POD RN TOO HELPPPP😂😂😂
Giving someone an apology doesn’t necessarily mean you were wrong. Sometimes it’s healing to just acknowledge how you affected someone. Unfortunately Johnny didn’t deserve it or appreciate it. He needs professional help for anything to get through.
John's comment about not wanting to be in chat with underage girls... but he'd rather be in chats with "boys" was a Freudian slip!
The “he fucked around and found out” is so annoying, I’m glad that’s not being taken lightly. I was 15 when I was SA’d by a 28 yr old man and I blamed myself for so long and even still struggle with holding him accountable because I just think, “how could I let that happen.” But time and healing work helps me remember he was a grown fucking
man and I was a child! If you feel this way too, please know it’s not your fault and you are valid. 💜💜💜💜
Adam saying the quiet part out loud - Johnny was in love with Josh. A teen's first love maybe or a major crush, it wouldn't surprise me, given how he's been acting.
The coming out thing not making swoops Final Cut really says a lot about swoop, I’m wondering if that interview with Josh dives further into that question and that’s why she held off talking about it in part 3 but one if the best things about swoop is she doesn’t present anything she can’t back up that’s why we go to petty university 😅
He’s lying about bullying you because he’s using it as one of his small admissions. Liars use these to “show” that they are being honest. “If I’m admitting this wrong on my part, then the rest of what I’m saying must also sound true..”
All I hear is “SWOOP, Swoop, SWOOP! Ahhh!” So happy for SWOOP! She killed this and deserves ALL THE LOVE 💕!!!! ❤
i think what destroyed him the most was the constant insinuation that HIS trauma is worse and more important than everyone else’s. this really isn’t a competition..
Johnny was a stalker who was denied direct access to his victim and got mad so now he's trying to destroy him.
I've got a friend who's going through something similar. Her husband became ab*sive and, now that she's left, he's doing everything in his power to wreck her entire life. So far he cost her her housing, access to her child, stole her car, and currently is sending revenge corn to her friends and family as well as manufacturing things to try and get her arrested. It's what crazy people do when they're being denied access to people they feel entitled to for whatever reason
I can safely say that at the 3 hour and 40 min mark i thought it was winding down and then I spent the last 10 min mouth agape and begging for it to keep going. I'm ready for part 4.
but did you hear how much he was tripping over himself when he said "bold of you to assume i would have a crush on you mr david evans" and how it was legitimately the only time he tripped on his words *that much*
apart from him slipping and saying he wanted to talk to boys, anyway
“If you tell the truth you won’t have to remember the lie” - a quote my mom told us alllllll through our childhood and we were very BRUTALLY honest kids
Wild to me that he lied and continued to try to lie but couldn’t remember what his initial lie was to keep it consistent 👏🏻 wild how he messed up SO BAD
On top of that belittling Josh’s experience with colleen that poor man has lived in shadows for YEAAAARS because he’s had a rough go trying to get mentally better after he got slammed with allegations
H3’s reaction to the ukulele was worth another three hour video 🤣😭🤣💀
Adam making fun of the way Johnny talks is so on point! 😭 Why does Johnny sound like a male version of Karen? 🤦🏻♀️
John has such an unpleasant vocal fry it’s sooo grating
He’s got the valley girl accent
Ethan calling Johnny a "nobody"... I bet Johnny looooooved that.
Please don't ever get a soundboard. Your reenactments of each sound effect is priceless and I love it. 😅
Adam IS the soundboard at this point 😂
NONONONONONO YOU DONT WANNA HEAR ABOUT 9-11
Idk about the crush angle, but I absolutely believe Johnny when he said that Josh was "supposed to be his meal ticket to success" I absolutely believe that he was obsessed with Josh and Colleen because he intended to use them to break into social media and enjoyed being fawned over by the kids in the Miranda sings circle
What's weird to me is that I'm sure Johnny has several stories in his arsenal of Colleen taking advantage of him as a former employee...and yet he decides to use other people's....
If he just came out and said "Hey! I might have done some things in the past that I'm not quite proud of but here's what happened to me..." we would all be willing to listen 🤷♀
Exactly I was always confused how he never elaborated on his own experiences with her or Josh
It says to me he thinks he wasn't "abused enough" to be relevant lol. Like it must have been bad since he was doing stuff like sleeping on the bus but now I feel like that was probably the most obviously questionable thing since he hasn't opened up about much else
@@nailinthefashion he was a young teenager when he became a big part of Colleen's circle so it's hard to believe that he wasn't subjected to some capacity of abuse. However, it seems like he prioritized fame over getting justice for her victims which again, is really weird.
because something like not getting paid enough for ur work is not good enough in his eyes. He's gotta be the most 'groomed' one
@@BKNYC89 All he really said is that he was ignored by everyone and his golden ticket to fame didnt work out