How To Cure Fibromyalgia
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In this video, John explains why your doctor's are wrong about Fibromyalgia. It's actually a collection of stress conditions - only. Once you cure yourself, your body will revert back to normal with no permanent damage.
This is based on the teachings by Dr. John Sarno MD and his diagnosis of Tension Myositis Syndrome or TMS. Anxiety can also cause fibromyalgia symptoms.
John Thornton
The Pain Cure Clinic
Boulder, Colorado - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
The phycological issues stem from living in that kind of pain on a daily basis.
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I live a very calm, quiet lifestyle and have fibromyalgia . This is not something just caused by stress. It is an actual condition, syndrome. I think the Mayo clinic may know more about it than you do. I'm offended by one more person saying that it isn't a medical condition, or Illness. I've had severe fibro throughout the 80s and 90s, and since then, iit has improved. I've spent 4 decades paying attention to what may be the causes of its coming on, and it totally seems to be at random. There is an actual physical cause for this illness, I live it every day. I know.
Fibro was not a diagnosis in the 80's Jane. However, we are not trying to take your disease away from you. Our apologies.
I said that for 40 years darling, I wish I'd met good therapists during that time. You need to dig deeper. I lived in stress from the day I was born and this is why I didn't realise how bad it was. Maybe you are like me. You'll be dead by the time they find a physical cause they can make pills for... Research on childhood trauma, narcissism, resentment... whatever. Dr Sarno was correct. The issue is that regular doctors do not know how to teach us to get out of that state, but they feel it's not a regular disease so send us home. Don't deny yourself the last few decades of your life bc your symptoms are so real.
I am also a fb patient. I’ve had it for decades. I live with excruciating pain on a daily basis. Been through every test there is and then my rheumatologist came up with fb. I’ve had the pain very early on. Teen years and now I’m 70. One of my drs came up with a pain plan so I cold function with it. If you’ve never lived with it you don’t know. I’ve missed out on so many things in my life because of it. Birthdays, weddings, funerals, graduations, vacations. I could go on and on. I’ve been reading about castor oil therapies so I’m going to try it. This ailment is no joke. I’m finally retired now so I can rest when I get extremely painful flare ups. I keep looking for ways and what to take to help with this. Thank you for listening to me ❤
I was diagnosed with fibro 8 yrs ago. I was put on loads of pills. I decided i would no longer accept fibro. I gave up the pills, and ive been working on getting my life back. Its slow going, but i truly believe im actually improving.
Go for it Mandy. You can do it.
Do you have hypomobility
You are a quack
The bottom line is…no one knows exactly what’s causing the pain and fatigue. Every video I watch is something different. I have lived with chronic fatigue and fatigue since about age seven. Now I am in my early sixties. I believe it started when my two older siblings asked me to sit on a chair and they moved the chair and I fell. I hit the floor is hard I thought my eyes had come out of their sockets. From that day my life changed. I tried everything and I mean everything. Nothing worked so far. But I am determined to beat this illness one day…
I was diagnosed in 1990 with SLE. Now retired and in remission with zero stress, been told I have FM. I walk everyday, eat well, live a quiet life and don't have any physiological issues. This is not in my imagination and I avoid taking meds but my body pain is getting worse each day and sleeping with chronic pain in the early hours of the morning is a reality.
Congratulations on being the only person on the planet to have zero stress. Good job churchy!
it's not in your imagination, tension causes the pain! But your mind can cure it.
Your hubris is without bounds. You don't need know a thing about it.
Reduce the stress that’s causing the symptom? But you can’t reduce stress 100% because it’s a part of life. In my experience of Fibromyalgia, my brain is not dealing well with stress…it’s hypersensitive & over reactive to stress. I first developed PTSD & then Fibromyalgia…it feels like the PTSD which is my brain over reacting to stress by going into fight-flight unnecessarily has over time, resulted in the breakdown of my body…Fibromyalgia. For me, the real question is how do I heal my brain so it handles normal life stressors well? The traumas of the past are over but they have changed my brain to one that can’t handle stress.
I would have said "eliminate stress" if I meant 100%. I said reduce stress Sonia. You're not paying attention.
Very true
Hi Sonia. I can 10000% recommend EMDR-therapy for your PTSD and inner stress. It has been revolutionary for my mind and body. 95% pain free today.
I think most people have said what I was already going to say, so I won’t repeat everything similar again…I have a few medical conditions, including fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue….i have tried to reduce my pain meds, but haven’t had much joy, the dreaded chronic pain was still there but even more severe..Even my meds don’t get rid of all my fibromyalgia pain, it works just enough so some days I can get out of bed, and slightly function as a human being….i don’t have much quality of life, and I would seriously change that in a heartbeat…do you know how my heart hurts, knowing I can’t take my grandchildren out to the park?take them for a picnic? Take them out on a summers day trip out? Yes I think everyone hear, will feel the same…but I seriously have studied fibromyalgia since my 2016 diagnosis, which I wouldn’t accept at first…..But not to be rude, just to be honest and speak my mind, but I seriously know, you truly don’t know anything about Fibromyalgia and all the pain that goes with it…I don’t choose to live like this, it chose me..and I think inflammation of the inside of the body does play apart, in all our pain, from what I have studied…….but you don’t make any of us, feel any better, or have hope in what you say, so sorry but you ain’t got a damn clue………..
Oral medication is not the answer for fibromyalgia. Go on a low, inflammatory diet, no sugar, wheat, or gluten, and no nightshade vegetables. Ensure a healthy gut biome and drink adequate water. Myofascial release, stretching, and acupuncture help. I believe fibromyalgia is genetic. Subsequently, the only connection between psychological and emotional stress is that it just makes what you already have worse.
Severe whiplash causes one to be a prime candidate for fibromyalgia. Myself and others share this common cause. I've been having fibromyalgia since 2002 and the only thing that caused me to get better was a regimen of:: trigger point injections, massage therapy, physical therapy, calcium and magnesium, and melatonin. All (except trigger point injections) have to be done at the very SAME time for two weeks and that's how I got better.
In Sarno's book - The MindBody Prescription, he quotes statistics that in
European countries that do not allow lawsuits for whiplash, the number of whiplash cases is zero.
Bro ur a slave
What kind of injections did you take?
Bulldust.. Nearly 30years of pain after whiplash from a MVA here. I had my first migraine the day after and gradually became chronic and diagnosed with fibromyalgia. Each patient is different. The only stress I endured from the accident was pain.... AND I didn't receive or try for any compensation.
I totally agree...
I'm diagnosed with fibromyalgi after a horse accident and was misdiagnosed with normal wear and tear in the neck, which was in reality a smashed vertebral disc between c5/c6. Which led to a long and grueling fight for my rights in Denmark.
The horse is of course Minuts
What is your cure rate of fybromyalgia my pains moved lately from throat to collerbone to shoulder now and whatever muscle I use aches day after and heal pain which not many talk about hard to break the fear lot say it's autoimmune with cytokine levels higher though surely stress could do this
We believe that Fibor is always stress caused Sarah. It is one of the easier symptoms to cure but don’t know the exact rate.
Wow thank you very much for this information
Mine started in my throat Then to my chest now shoulders to me it's anxiety.blumin painful one walking 4 miles s day still here though
The test for fibromyalgia currently involves careful ruling out of any other possible disease. People are working on better methods of diagnosis and a deeper understanding of the mechanisms underlying this debilitating condition.
Great Marta -
It may be a wrong breathing habit. I noticed that I was directing my breathing more to my left side. So my right side always felt tired and lazy plus tight jaw and neck. Maybe meditation and proper breathing can help. I am considering as well cold showers through wim hof method
Wow. This is a very uneducated view. There have been studies done that show neuroinflammation as well as high glutamate levels in the brains of people with Fibromyalgia....it is now considered a neurological condition...not just stress. Does stress increase pain? Of course is does, but contibuting a very real condition, that has now been proven, to just stress, is very narrow minded. There was a study on B1 deficiency as a treatment for Fibromyalgia that was very successful....the deficiency causes neurological and digestive issues. Thats the most promising research so far. I don't know who made this guy the authority on Fibromyalgia.
I tried high dose b1. Sorry to say it did nothing. .
The only thing that works for me is activities and resistance training. Endorphin release all the way.
One study clearly shows overactive pain sensors in the brain.. Now they need to trace back to a root cause. .our only chance is the rich paying A listers.
How can you treat it if you don't think it's a real medical condition. What is it? I live the consequences of this shit daily. My life is cut down to little.
Thanks for your input Ginger. We are not trying to take fibro away from you. Sorry.
Cold temperatures makes me feel more energized while hot humid weather is a disaster for me.
You are a legend
Same the last 35 years😮
Claire weekes talkes about generalized muscle aching in 1962 acceptance float let time pass she says any luck with this method
I have fibro and no stress. So mine is not stress related. EBV!
I guess it's settled then.
Epstein-Barr is the devil of viruses.
I think it’s Epstein Barr too.
If you were in constant pain which wasn't understood by doctors and your family who just think your mentally ill, YOU would also suffer depression anxiety panic etc. But as usual those who haven't experienced this syndrome have No Idea why or how and can't even empathize that you are suffering.
Total horseshit youtube...
Thank you Mark for those inspiring words.
Check out as well Left AIC right BC pattern. It may be a postural issue. Personally I feel like my spine is not well oriented. I always feel the need to stretch my neck, lower back, shoulder blades and crack my hips.
This dude is rude to people in the comments and thinks he knows everything but knows less than most of us. If he were correct noone would have fibromyalgia. Wait til you get it sir and cure yourself like you tell us or just don't be so darn arrogant! God bless!
So if I have been doing all 3 of these solutions you're talking about right from the onset...why am I still a mess? 🤔
Our Master Class is 28 modules (approximately 4 hours) of content. It may be difficult to try to do it by yourself. We have a private support group and you can ask the instructors questions. You need help with the process. Everyone does.
@@thorn421 Your master class? I feel ILL by people trying to steal sick peoples money. Burn in h****
@@magnuslarsson5949 We are not trying to take your disease away Magnus.
Do the clicking and cracking noises that started from fibromyalgia go away once my muscle tension calms down after I regulate my nervous system?
I feel like its going to make me go insane
Haven't you noticed the feeling of muscle tension when the muscle is soft and relaxed ?
@@cdracos1 yes all the time
To those with CFS and Brain fog: take a good B complex, B1 100 mg , magnesium 300 mg, CoQ10, L-Gluathione 250 mg, B12 shots . Its all helping me tremendously especially the B1! Most of us are low in B1 and fibro can get started here (not always trauma related).
B1 is the bomb Big Fat.
Because most of us severe have Asperger's add ADHD OCD.hypomobilty these are all lack of energy in the body and we in the spectrum have anxiety and more sycosomatic to
Did it all with high dose b1, did nothing.
@@cdracos1B1 Benfotamine
Well, I must say I completely disagree with you. I've been living with Fibromyalgia for 10+ years now and I'm also a medical provider. It is definitely medical and it is real. When I was ignorant I didn't believe in this diagnosis, and struggled. It is absolutely exacerbated by stress, therefore reducing stress decreases pain and fatigue. But there are other symptoms besides pain, arrhythmia is a manifestation as well as fluctuations in blood pressure. Now that the limbic system is being recognized as the source of the issue, they are getting better treatments. I cannot stand it when people say it isn't real. This is a very disabling condition. The unrefreshed sleep leads to fatigue and weakness. Tizanidine combined with metoprolol is my best friend because I'm able to get refreshed sleep and can function, but the chronic pain sensation and amplification is still there. Multimodal approach with medicines, exercise, relaxation techniques, etc works best
Battling it for 14 years. I WISH it were as simple as this guy thinks
Been ill with FM since 1982, 43 yrs. It's much much more complex then stress caused it. Stress may heighten the pain but so does too much exercise.
There are so many symptoms.
If you don't have the following 3 symptoms everyday then you don't have FM.
Widespread pain throughout the body.
Inability to achieve Slow Wave Delta Sleep, Restorative Sleep.
Chronic Fatigue. Extreme. Exhaustion a sense of overwhelming tiredness. As if you have been Sedated.
I truly believe my Fibromyalgia came from living in an Abusive environment for 50+ yrs. Being in a nervous, scared Anxiety ( panic Attack Disorder, GAD , PTSD, and ADHD. I’ve been in therapy since my first breakdown at 28 yrs old . I have had 3 more throughout my life and been on almost Every Anti Depressants , in which I have the opposite reaction ( more hyper then calming down my anxiety. I don’t take meds , but during a Flare up , which I been
In now for 2 1/2 months since I had Covid . Extremely frustrating
Absolutely lady Liz.
Ok so now what do you do if you have the condition what’s the treatment
read The Mind/Body Prescription and check out our website link below the video King.
@@thorn421 I did but it says about tmj
@@kinga-635 Fibro is TMS. It's just stress.
@@thorn421 have you ever heard of water sensation like water going down the leg type sensation ? If so what could it be
So true worked for me.
This is an incredibly reductionist non-scientific assumption that is not based on the research of factors such as carbohydrate sensitivity, trauma, magnesium deficiencies, etc…
This guy thinks there is no connection between psychological and physiological diseases? The nervous system (what is effected by Fibromyalgia) is literally the connection between the two.
I have Fibro and have found great success treating it but it never even showed up in my life until I had drastically eradicated the stressors of my life and started a deep meditation practice. It is not a stress disease.
I have fybromyalgia and CFS before Dr schubiner says it is central sentization in brain scans but I now no I have Asperger's add hypomobility eds low methalation I suppose it depends on the cause
I think you have a drastic lack of understanding about fibromyalgia
We are not trying to take your fibromyalgia away David.
@@thorn421 all these people probably never want to get cured or even read the book by Dr john sarno smh losers
And you're not dealing with it either, just a bunch of hocus Pokus language.@@thorn421
Very informative
Thanks Grant
I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and fibromyalgia. The lain makes the mood swings. Yes it does. I know this is real. The more I move the better I feel, but the swelling and pain I have that does not come from RA are real. And nothing really helps. Swimming and doing my daily work help
So true Tonie. You speak the truth girl.
Used to be called fybrostis you read that it says curable
Comparing Fibromyalgia to breaking your arm is ridiculous. I’ve broken my hand whilst having fibromyalgia and I’ll say this breaking a one is a walk in the park compared to having fibromyalgia. Stress may be one of the causes for getting fibromyalgia, a decline in hormones is another, there are many other possible causes. Once you have it you can’t get rid of it, maybe for those who don’t have severe symptoms, but for people like me that have every single symptom and one’s not mentioned there is no getting rid of it. I’ve tried everything legally and illegally. You can’t sustain LSD, Psilocybin, DMT as a medicine I’ve tried. The only thing that has aided me is steroids for my testosterone, nandrolone for pain, HGH, peptides also. A diet which is high carbs and high protein, 75g of fats a day of fish in particular ones with omega 3.
You honestly think after curing stress it just goes away if only it was that simple.
I know 100% it does.
@@thorn421 well you are 100% wrong. You have zero scientific evidence to back that claim.
@@Dionysus_Athena We are not trying to take your disease away from you Dionysus. Very sorry.
To say that stress is the only cause to fibromyalgia is very short sighted. It may be the cause for some people, but there can be some other factors. If people read your responses, it pretty easy to see that you lack a medical degree, you just have a big opinion of yourself. @@thorn421
Thank you john ❤️you guys
You're welcome ice sister.
Wow such poor information! It’s diet related for me and not stress.
Me thinks thou doth protest too much.
@@thorn421 Me thinks we don't protest enough. When your first reference is wikipedia it's not overly impressive. I had fm way before I had ptsd etc do you have stats and studies that prove this is a cure for fibromyalgia? Honest question.
@@brendahodge1575 We've had lots of clients cure themselves from this collection of stress related symptoms that were lumped together in the 1990's and labeled as Fibromyalgia. Does your doctor have a list of patients that she has cured of fm?
ughhhhh slayyyyy thank you for curing my daily suffering of birth level pains throughout my entire body 🥰🥰🥰 no really man thank u 🙏
My pleasure duckman!
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For the heck of it, try raising your Nitric Oxide and see what happens...
My broken leg caused me a moid swing depression with a pin in it.
That would do it for anyone Tom.
Adhesions, thats the cause, remove the adhesions and your pain is gone virtually instantly, Your nerves are adhesing to the muscles and even at rest the nerve is being pulled on causing phantom pain from the nerve, Deep tissue message and locating the nerves is all it takes to be pain free, the nerve will feel like a noodle when its located, message the surrounding tissue agressively freeing the nerve from the muscle, it is just amazing because even though it makes your muscle tender for a day, the nerve pain is gone instantly, you will be amazed, I was diagnosed with carpal tunnel 10 years ago, i refused surgery, i fixed it in 10 minutes by literally digging into my forearm and wrist, the relief was immediate and lasted for weeks, more message and it lasted longer, doctors are the biggest liars on earth.
I really don't think you are qualified to speak on this subject.
Your protestations serve to show that you think we are correct Ginger. Guess what we are and you can stop feeling bad. Hooray for Ginger's recovery!
I don’t get how some smart a$$ can make a video saying it’s not an illness it’s stress in someone’s head when he doesn’t have the pain doesn’t suffer do he doesn’t understand not care to but I bet if he had fibromyalgia he would feel very different I think there’s been enough studies and I was recently diagnosed my pain is awful and guess what I don’t have depression nor anxiety but I could developed it who knows because if the pain I go through every darn morning nothing g helps really u just live with it I still push myself do everything I have to do everyday not easy but possible for some that’s why I do t like to talk about stuff unless I no fit a fact
You may keep your disease ma'am.
You don't know what your talking about. Trauma! Got rid of most of my pain with keto diet and exercise. Still suffer IBS, brain fog and fatigue! Answer that! Please get rid of!
I believe you are way off base on your theory. Most of what you respond to when responding to the Mayo Clinic is a black and white answer. The Mayo Clinic is saying there are a lot of variables to fibromyalgia and it diagnosis. I will give you, my case. About 13 years ago I had my third surgery for carpal tunnel on my left wrist. With in 3 months my left forearm started having a tingling sensation, feeling of extreme heat, muscle soreness, bone pain and skin sensitivity. The symptoms slowly spread from my left arm to my chest and then the lower legs and finally to my stomach area. I believe it's the bodies response trying to deal with a physical trauma and the body not finding a way to regulate the pain. From your video I feel you have a bias against the medical community, and this is the way you respond to your pain.
They used to say that heart attacks were caused by stress until they discovered that stress was caused by heart attacks. They used to say that stomach ulcers were caused by stress until they discovered that stress was caused by stomach ulcers. Now fibromyalgia is caused by stress. Just reduce the stress and it will go away. Good luck with that.
This seems like such a tunnel vision outlook to whatever wide spread chronic pain condition that so many people suffer from. Just another "specialist" that completely invalidates your personal experience with basically "its all in your head, just relax dude". Would love to see some statics backing up this approach with testimony from people who suffer from these chronic symptoms
Stress .. definitely of the d'evils !
When you find a medical reason for this disorder maybe it would be treatable sick of all the BS .
Exactly Connie.
I fervently disagree!
I’m not even going to bother….
We are not intending to take your disease away from you. That is not our goal Orpheas. Sorry that you had to watch it because now....you'll always wonder.
@@thorn421 Not at all! Do I sense some kind of prejudice here? As a mental health expert which considerable experience in psychotherapy, I’d suggest that you look into your “thing” with fibromyalgia sufferers. Unless it’s not a thing at all and you’re enjoying what you’re doing, in which case it’s plain nastiness. Now, I have bothered more than I intended already.
Looks to me like the Mayo Clinic know nothing about Fibro, but neither do you!
Bless you Wendy girl.
You're ignorant. Inflammation causes psychological symptoms. In fact, that's a major component of how antidepressants work, largely through antiinflammatory properties.
But stress can cause inflammation via fight or flight.
I have fibromyalgia, but no inflammation.
I Dont get the obsession with inflammation, yes it can certainly feel that way. . Mine is pain signals running down the nervous system.
Not a real medical condition? He knows better than Mayo Clinic.? He is a real turn off!
We are not trying to take your disease away from you. Sorry for your trouble.
So is stress a disease? Or are you saying that fibromyalgia is the disease.@@thorn421
Total nonsense! He clearly hasn’t had Fibro and knows nothing!, 😡....I have had it for 30 years and stress is not the culprit! I can be job related ( I was a hairdresser so overuse of the muscles) , another condition can bring on Fibro, EG Endometriosis, and traumatic incidents such as abuse or childbirth etc, but ‘de stressing’ won’t just get rid of it🤣😞....There is sadly NO CURE, only management such as massage, acupuncture, chiropractic etc. The pain comes back no matter what you do!!
Me thinks thou doth protest too much Fibro Kane.
@@thorn421 bro that lady is an idiot. Fibromyalgia is the easiest to cure along with most if not ALL pains! This is all a distraction!! There have been many many people that have had it worse than this person with the negative quote and they cured!! U had fibro for 30 years then u don't need to be living in this world! Ur a sad excuse!
Fibro is just a cluster of symptoms there is ALWAYS a root cause. I had fibro and healed, now I help others do the same! Because I got to different root causes and removed dis-ease in my body. I hope you find healing Karen
@@lukeblundell3533 it be greatly appreciated if you were to make a video on the topic my mom suffers from it greatly and so does a good friend of mine they're flare-ups are horrible my mom is in her late 60s and my friend is in her mid 30s any information on how you got to cure your fibro would be greatly appreciated
please and thank you.
@@mikefucius7720 Hey Mike, reach out to me at IntegratedHealingHouse . Happy to have a chat to your mom
So it is all in your head and you are crazy, is that what you are saying?
Nabi my comrade. You know that's not what I'm saying. Don't worry. I am not trying to take your fibromyalgia away from you.
I am just simply trying to understand what you are saying, so according to your knowledge and research?, are CRPS & RSD in the same realm and can be cured by taking care of one's mind?
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@@nabi8741 you keep coming back for more because, you're thinking that there might be something to this.Don't you?
@@thorn421 yes, I kept coming back to check on the answers. I heard CRPS, RSD &FIBROMYALGIA may differ in degree of pain, but fall into similar category of syndrome. I want to know if your idea about FIBROMYALGIA would be applied to CRPS &RSD to get cure.
So wrong
What part specifically Lorelei?
All of your video!@@thorn421
I am insulted by the information given in this video. This guy has no idea what it is like living with chronic pain. Just reduce the stress he said, how does that work when one has had pain for 40 years, he has no clue. So essentially to reduce stress is not to be alive and believe me I have not wanted to be alive many times due to unrelenting pain. Go away you person who obviously has not experienced many years of chronic pain. What you say is horrible.😢😡
I am not trying to take your disease away from you Tanya. My apologies.
God what a lack of empathy. This illness is rough. I have taken biofeedback machine to zero and was still in tons of pain.
You have no idea what you are talking about. At all.
We are not trying to take your disease away from you Caren. Sorry if we upset you.
Yes he does. It's all true. Read the book healing back pain!
Wow you are full of BS.
Sorry if we offended you baby boy. We are not trying to take your disease away from you. Our apologies.
Rude little fucking predator this one eh !
Another fake who claims they cured Fibromyalgia
You lost me with " its not even a real medical condition " the most idiotic and insensitive thing to say. You clearly dont understand what this illness does to people who have it. There is no cure or else most of us wouldn't be suffering. Stop spreading misinformation and get a hobby if you have nothing to do with your time.
My apologies Kuzon. We are not trying to take your disease away from you.
It's not just stress!!! Obviously you have never endured the excruciating pain involved in fibro!! You do not know what you are talking about!! This is an absolute insult to so many of us who suffer mind altering pain on a regular basis!! Thinking like yours is old school and does absolutely nothing but discriminate against individuals who suffer from this very difficult condition and just leads to the disinformation that feeds insurance companies and disability supports so that they can deny claims! Please educate yourself about this condisiton before you simplify and dismiss those of us who suffer on a daily, hourly basis!!!!!!
Our apologies user. We are not trying to take your disease away from you. Very sorry.
This is the most ignorant, irresponsible and harmful information for fibromyalgia patients whose pain and suffering is real. Just another version of "it's all in your head."