I would just clarify, I understand it is the reduction of blood flow to the muscles that causes the pain rather than just tightness (although the two are undoubtedly related). Key is to understand what the brain is doing and that there is actually nothing wrong (despite the pain telling you otherwise). I had major pain when I swung a golf club, right at impact. And when I say pain, I mean mind-numbing pain that made me want to throw up. It was so bad I thought I had torn a muscle or ligament and was doing permanent damage. Stopped all physical exercise but no luck. Went on for a year. Could barely drive as could not turn to my right to check my blind spot. MRI and Xray picked nothing up. Turned out it was TMS. Read Dr Sarno's book twice. It clicked. Made a list of the things that I was angry about and when they happened. Made sense. Started playing golf again. Initially, the pain was really bad but pushed through, firm in my belief that it was TMS. When it hurt, I swung harder. After a few weeks, it began to get better and then disappeared. Remarkable and confounded the doctors.
I don't disagree with this, but what I would say is that the key is changing how you respond to stress. If you can reduce stress by changing something in your life, that can be good. But it may be impossible to significantly reduce your stress, so you have to change how you deal with it. Because if you don't, you may end up running away from responsibility or really good but stressful jobs. As far as the exercise, I agree it's better to incorporate that into or back into your life after you accept TMS diagnosis. Also guided relaxation techniques worked for me to get to 100% pain relief.
@@thorn421 what's up man. Love ur videos. Stress is a big factor. I had insomnia for years until I got blessed with sarnos books! I also think everything is the mind , most all diseases even cancer is stress related! I've been sleeping like a Baby ever since it clicked in my head. 1 life to live...get educated! Never worry or fear!
Incorrect. Some of us have stressors that can't be resolved for example I'm going to have to have heart surgery and remove a valve in my heart I'm living overseas the insurance doesn't cover it. Number two I failed to create a functional life in America now I'm 60 years old and living overseas I still haven't figured out a career also property in California which I still think about living in or at least having property and has gotten out of control also with all my medical problems at 62 years old it's getting harder to work. I've got other things like hearing loss tinnitus and other medical issues I've also got osteoarthritis in my feet and my hands which is what brought me back to the site a lot of my problems do not have any easy answer or do not have any answer or the answer is something really invasive like open heart surgery and if I don't have my heart valve replaced soon I will die in the near
@@davidpearlactorteacherbizman I think that was the point. You can't change some things, but you can change how you react to them. For example, if you lose your wallet, that is going to cause stress, but every time you think about it and stress about it, is like losing your wallet over and over. It's a cycle. Good luck with your surgery. I hope you get things under control. BTW, I am just like you, I failed to create the life I thought I was going to have and now I'm fast approaching 60, and it's no fun really, not what I was hoping for. Hang in there.
I clean houses i was told to stop over 10 years ago because of my back .doctor's say i have a ton of herniated discs ,torn lambrth . My husband if in a bad flair wants his 4rth surgery i am terrified i need to keep cleaning i am old . Its exhausted ,i am afraid it will get as bad as my husband who can no longer walk. I am a wreck he doesn't believe this stuff.
@@thorn421 in sure he said once the patient understands tms it's safe to exercise? But important not to start physical therapy too soon. Maybe I misread this
Thanks..... I've only been walking last 10 month.... Stiffness remains I feel I need to get over the fear of doing cardio again as that's what they say caused the "overuse injury" on my anterior knee muscles. anxiety is fuelling all this....
I've been walking 18 month and I twisted my knee and now it's better than was it's joined the morning stiffness walking to help my shoulder pelvic pain.also heal pain magnet for tms
Some of your information on this touches my condition. I periodically have low back pain, stiffness. And 2 years ago it went full bore more, especially lower back vertebrae and my cervical, which I've been trying to figure out lately (can't afford to go to doctors, so self medicate and research heavily). Started with my tinnitus onset Summer of 2019 when I got very bad sick, like a bad flu, for a solid month. At the end of that, my ringing began, then from then on, its turned to a "hissing" or electrical sound mostly.. Thats a very long story, but somehow I think my body is either locked up, due to constant flight or fight, or overload of cortisol, or adrenaline, or something. Or possibly a defict in some minerrals and vitamins. I've tried so, so much over last 2 plus years. The good days I've had, when in remission, I was less stressed usually, and had some sleep.Thats the one big thing, I miss, SLEEP! Quality sleep. I will say I've always had a Type A personality. ANyway, didn't mean to get long winded, keep up your great videos, I'm learning a lot. I need to order Dr. Sarnos books. Thanks again.
I know this about stress and how there is nothing that will show up in tests. My problem is when I stop doing 2 hours meditation a day / pace myself all my symptoms worsen and I feel so unwell. My nervous system was affected 14 years ago by a rapid anti depressant withdrawal, my body literally rejects any exertion or prolonged nervous system stimulation it responds with debilitating symptoms. I use an electric bike and scooter. I cannot get out the loop, I have tried everything including the Curable app.
@@thorn421 thankyou my brains worrying about that.i have one constant pain and others what is heal pain in a morning is this all normal.also was Claire weekes talking about this with generalised muscle tension thankyou
I know that what they have found with children who grew up in physically and emotionally abusive homes not only have a shorter lifespan but the hippocampus pituitary adrenal axis is revved up. The implication from the studies that I have read is that this is a permanent condition. People from this type of background are more prone to cardiovascular disease, chronic illness, and cancer. One never knows though as research, and hopefully science, grows past prior assumptions.
Sarah is 100% correct. FEAR is the foundation upon which TMS is built. OCD Long Covid PTSD fibromyalgia chronic fatigue back pain migraines etc etc all FEAR or the word worry
I would just clarify, I understand it is the reduction of blood flow to the muscles that causes the pain rather than just tightness (although the two are undoubtedly related). Key is to understand what the brain is doing and that there is actually nothing wrong (despite the pain telling you otherwise). I had major pain when I swung a golf club, right at impact. And when I say pain, I mean mind-numbing pain that made me want to throw up. It was so bad I thought I had torn a muscle or ligament and was doing permanent damage. Stopped all physical exercise but no luck. Went on for a year. Could barely drive as could not turn to my right to check my blind spot. MRI and Xray picked nothing up. Turned out it was TMS. Read Dr Sarno's book twice. It clicked. Made a list of the things that I was angry about and when they happened. Made sense. Started playing golf again. Initially, the pain was really bad but pushed through, firm in my belief that it was TMS. When it hurt, I swung harder. After a few weeks, it began to get better and then disappeared. Remarkable and confounded the doctors.
Good job Stephen! You're exactly right.
I don't disagree with this, but what I would say is that the key is changing how you respond to stress. If you can reduce stress by changing something in your life, that can be good. But it may be impossible to significantly reduce your stress, so you have to change how you deal with it. Because if you don't, you may end up running away from responsibility or really good but stressful jobs. As far as the exercise, I agree it's better to incorporate that into or back into your life after you accept TMS diagnosis. Also guided relaxation techniques worked for me to get to 100% pain relief.
You are right on the money John!
@@thorn421 what's up man. Love ur videos. Stress is a big factor. I had insomnia for years until I got blessed with sarnos books! I also think everything is the mind , most all diseases even cancer is stress related! I've been sleeping like a Baby ever since it clicked in my head. 1 life to live...get educated! Never worry or fear!
Incorrect. Some of us have stressors that can't be resolved for example I'm going to have to have heart surgery and remove a valve in my heart I'm living overseas the insurance doesn't cover it. Number two I failed to create a functional life in America now I'm 60 years old and living overseas I still haven't figured out a career also property in California which I still think about living in or at least having property and has gotten out of control also with all my medical problems at 62 years old it's getting harder to work. I've got other things like hearing loss tinnitus and other medical issues I've also got osteoarthritis in my feet and my hands which is what brought me back to the site a lot of my problems do not have any easy answer or do not have any answer or the answer is something really invasive like open heart surgery and if I don't have my heart valve replaced soon I will die in the near
@@davidpearlactorteacherbizman I think that was the point. You can't change some things, but you can change how you react to them. For example, if you lose your wallet, that is going to cause stress, but every time you think about it and stress about it, is like losing your wallet over and over. It's a cycle. Good luck with your surgery. I hope you get things under control. BTW, I am just like you, I failed to create the life I thought I was going to have and now I'm fast approaching 60, and it's no fun really, not what I was hoping for. Hang in there.
Only way to recover is avoid all stress completely but then you end up working low paid jobs so it's tough
I clean houses i was told to stop over 10 years ago because of my back .doctor's say i have a ton of herniated discs ,torn lambrth . My husband if in a bad flair wants his 4rth surgery i am terrified i need to keep cleaning i am old . Its exhausted ,i am afraid it will get as bad as my husband who can no longer walk. I am a wreck he doesn't believe this stuff.
Keep working sweet baby. There's nothing wrong with your (or your husband's) back. Try our Master Class. Money-back guaranteed.
@@thorn421 i wish i had money
Had back pain due to herniated disks for 2 years and healed thanks to sarnos. Hit the gym back. All went good . Now developed tennis elbow.. any hint?
It's the same process English. Start doing curls.
I dont understand the video title was a better way? Everything you said was in sarno book if i remember
Sarno never talked about exercise.
@@thorn421 in sure he said once the patient understands tms it's safe to exercise? But important not to start physical therapy too soon. Maybe I misread this
The chap who got rid of JFK's pain was extreme exercise wasn't it
@@sarahberesford4724 Dr. Krause
Is TMS a somatic symptom disorder as to myself looks though it is and how much is related to ocd
Thanks
All my scans are good it's fybromyalgia spectrum disorder did me
Thanks..... I've only been walking last 10 month.... Stiffness remains I feel I need to get over the fear of doing cardio again as that's what they say caused the "overuse injury" on my anterior knee muscles. anxiety is fuelling all this....
Just do it - ans
I've been walking 18 month and I twisted my knee and now it's better than was it's joined the morning stiffness walking to help my shoulder pelvic pain.also heal pain magnet for tms
Some of your information on this touches my condition. I periodically have low back pain, stiffness. And 2 years ago it went full bore more, especially lower back vertebrae and my cervical, which I've been trying to figure out lately (can't afford to go to doctors, so self medicate and research heavily). Started with my tinnitus onset Summer of 2019 when I got very bad sick, like a bad flu, for a solid month. At the end of that, my ringing began, then from then on, its turned to a "hissing" or electrical sound mostly.. Thats a very long story, but somehow I think my body is either locked up, due to constant flight or fight, or overload of cortisol, or adrenaline, or something. Or possibly a defict in some minerrals and vitamins. I've tried so, so much over last 2 plus years. The good days I've had, when in remission, I was less stressed usually, and had some sleep.Thats the one big thing, I miss, SLEEP! Quality sleep. I will say I've always had a Type A personality. ANyway, didn't mean to get long winded, keep up your great videos, I'm learning a lot. I need to order Dr. Sarnos books. Thanks again.
Is there some big life change that you want to make Grizzly but have not done so? Think about that for a minute...
My Belief is 100% sure it's stress related but I can't remove the stress
I know this about stress and how there is nothing that will show up in tests. My problem is when I stop doing 2 hours meditation a day / pace myself all my symptoms worsen and I feel so unwell. My nervous system was affected 14 years ago by a rapid anti depressant withdrawal, my body literally rejects any exertion or prolonged nervous system stimulation it responds with debilitating symptoms. I use an electric bike and scooter. I cannot get out the loop, I have tried everything including the Curable app.
Try our Master Class. It's money back guaranteed Fyaller. Way better than Curable.
Also one thing have you seen brain permantley damaged by stress
No never permanently Sarah.
@@thorn421 thankyou my brains worrying about that.i have one constant pain and others what is heal pain in a morning is this all normal.also was Claire weekes talking about this with generalised muscle tension thankyou
I know that what they have found with children who grew up in physically and emotionally abusive homes not only have a shorter lifespan but the hippocampus pituitary adrenal axis is revved up. The implication from the studies that I have read is that this is a permanent condition. People from this type of background are more prone to cardiovascular disease, chronic illness, and cancer. One never knows though as research, and hopefully science, grows past prior assumptions.
It's all fear
Yes Sarah!
Sarah is 100% correct. FEAR is the foundation upon which TMS is built. OCD Long Covid PTSD fibromyalgia chronic fatigue back pain migraines etc etc all FEAR or the word worry
This isn’t effective. Most people have stress for no reason so they can’t solve it
Thank you for those inspiring words Gina.
@@thorn421 lol!
@@mR-dc4oq I'm laughing along with you m R baby child.