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- And so we finally get to the 1973 backstory that the series has peppered throughout the previous episodes! And Albert and Baz are totally here for it!
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S2.E5 ∙ Don't Be Afraid, Just Start the Tape
Originally Released: Sun, Jun 9, 2024
With Louis' help, Molloy delves into a haunted memory of his own.
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When Armand says I've been calling to you for some time he's peaking to Daniel as Death, it's not that he orchestrated Daniel meeting Louis. I don't think.
No, he definitely didn't orchestrate it. If he knew how much Louis and Daniel would've connected he would've eaten Daniel before it happened. He thought it would be the same thing Louis' been doing for the last however many years. Giant, jealous, possessive, tantrum throwing child that Armand is. Literally can't handle Louis getting "close" to anyone... The Armand = Death thing with Malloy was so disturbing, and cruel. It would be less cruel if Daniel, then actually was s*icidal, or did want to die. But he clearly didn't. Like his life may be shit to others, and probably even to him. And he may have felt like it would never go anywhere or amount to anything. All that may have been true, and he may have thought at as well. But that's not something that either of them, but especially Armand knew for sure. He's not omniscient. And it was so painfully clear, that regardless Daniel did not want to die. The way Armand broke him down till he basically just gave up and accepted his fate. The way he almost brainwashed him into believing that not only was it his choice, but that he was almost asking Armand for it. Nasty work. It's like Lestat with the tenor all over again, except 10x worse.
Especially after straight up goading Louis into attempting. Truly evil. This whole episode as much as it was gothic horror to a disturbing degree, it still was ART. Phenomenal 🙌🏽
to me i thought it meant that during the week he kept him there he'd been trying to access his mind to eventually get him to accept death peacefully
@@beautifulloly I think that's exactly what he did or was doing. Also because he couldn't see what made him different enough that Louis actually connected with and opened up to him. So he no doubt was already rooting around in there to answer his own question. I have no doubt he was also doing exactly what you said 👌🏽😵💫☠️
You made a great observation about The Vampire Chronicles being all about Lestat.
Lestat! Lestat! Lestat! Lestat! Lestat! Lestat! Lestat! Armand just laid out the theme of the entire book series. I’m so here for it!
Just a small book correction- Daniel is not turned during the interview. He is attacked by Louis, and Armand is not there as they had broken up by that point. There is no second interview (Dubai storyline) in the books either. Daniel is turned a decade after the interview by Armand, as revealed in The Queen of the Damned. He also does not die in that book (or any book, as far as I’m aware).
Yeah, Armand and Daniel are technically endgame... In one of the last books that Anne wrote she mentions that Armand was really wanting to rekindle the relationship he had with Daniel and was setting out to do so ...I don't think we find out if Daniel wants to do that, from what book readers have told me, but a lot of people hope and think that he does and that they do end up together... But unfortunately we never get canon confirmation necessarily that this happens.... It makes sense that it would, though, IMO. So in my mind and in a lot of fans' mind they are just as endgame as Loustat.
Been looking forward to your reactions to this particular episode and you didn't disappoint, guys - love, love, love Albert's emotional responses and Baz's calm delight in all the wicked details! It's the perfect balance! To finally see what transpired in SF was such a satisfying moment, and boy, did AR and the writers knock it out of the park with that excruciatingly bitter trading of barbs and truths between Louis and Armand - OUCH! Assad's ability to look delicate while being darkly deceptive is top tier and his delivery of that one word, "Rest," is chillingly inviting! Huge respect to Jacob for his commanding presence at the centre of this emotional maelstrom, and Luke Brandon Field was pitch-perfect as a younger Daniel caught up in these vampires' domestic! Sam's Lestat will always be a highlight of any episode for me, even when it's brief and bittersweet! Appreciate hearing your thoughts, as always - great job!
Armand was turned at 17 in the books. In the show he is supposed to be 10 years older. He does act like a jealous child. So petulant! 😂
He was sexually abused in both versions, which would explain getting stuck at an earlier place.
@@HuntingViolets This! Very much this.
@@HuntingVioletsalso he was basically captive, he only gets a glimpse of “real and adult” life until Lestat
You state that in the books Daniel is turned during that San Fran interview - that's not true. He isn't turned until much later after Armand stalks him and they **SPOILER** start a romantic relationship together. Eventually Armand turns him because Daniel is dying. He was very much in love with Daniel at that time and did not want to turn him despite Daniel's constant begging because he felt like fledglings always ended up hating their makers. Daniel is his one and only fledgling.
Yeah, Daniel becomes a fledgling in the 80s about a full decade after the interview happens, not in the 70s. Daniel being bitten directly after the interview happens was a movie detail only. A lot of people here on TH-cam have mixed up this detail because the movie is a complete departure from the books... In the movie Lestat finds Daniel but in the book Daniel TRIES to find Lestat... And stumbles across Armand instead kick-starting the relationship you detail in your comment.
"Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" with vampires. Scenes from a Vampire Marriage.
Not too much on Louis ahah !! It's unfair to just say he's a little bitch and that he makes everything a problem but to not question armand's sincerity and hypcrisy AND selfishness in whatever we get to see in their relationship up til there. If you read between the lines there's a lot of questions to be asked by then as to why they act like this towards each other and why Louis was a literally drug addict serial killer in the 70s. I know everyone says book Louis is whiny and boring but TV louis is a complex character even if yes he can be a fat hypocrite !
I can't wait to see you watch the last episodes because i think you'll be quite surprised!!
I think it's great that they aged the characters up because 1. nobody wants to see armand as a literal child like that's so fucked up I would feel disgusting watching that. 2. it proves that you can still keep the essence of the characters even if you don't have to follow every single thing that anne wrote about them, especially since a lot of it is uncomfy and quite problematic tbh. Assad does a phenomenal job and i literally would love to read The vampire Armand one day because of him.
Exactly! I get irritated when people hate on Louis and give Armand a pass as if his red flags aren't screaming out at us by this point. Even without context, it's obvious Louis resents Armand for *something* significant at this point.
@@nkechi4635 yes all of that!!! i'm just waiting for their reaction to the whole thing at this point
Daniel is not turned at that interview in the books. Don't want to get too into detail here, but you're misremembering. Well, memory is a monster, I guess.
Yeah, the movie changes some details so I can understand why some misremembering might happen... A lot of fans seem to think that the end of the movie is canon (potentially because there IS a lot of book canon in the movie) but it's a complete departure from the books... This isn't the first time I've heard someone on TH-cam make this mistake when remembering the timeline of when Daniel gets turned into a vampire.
Daniel doesn’t get taken out by Akasha in Queen of the damned and Louis’ resentment and hate towards Armand makes sense considering what Armand did in Paris, I’m just saying it cos you said you read the books so you know.
Im glad the person on the left noticed louis takes after certain traits from Lestat
😅😅Albert has been traumatized from just about every episode. I feel for him. 😮😅😅😅
just imagine if Claudia would have survived all the way to the Tale of the Body Thief era ,she could have experienced her natural adulthood by switching bodies with someone .......{{{sad}}}............................................Anne Rice was genius ,but I do love this series
I enjoyed the reaction mostly but i think there's a little bias here showing from being a book reader towards Louis and I dont know if i enjoy that. Im one of those cases that adore all the characters Louis, Lestat, Armand, Claudia and Daniel. Yes Lestat is my favorite character (im also a book reader) but the show has very much taken pains to make Louis's character richer and more fleshed out and way more interesting/realized then he was in the books. His trauma in the show is imo so much more complex than what it was in the books and Louis never dealt healthily with any of it, he repeats learned behaviors (like all of these characters) and is hurting and though it does not justify any of his actions towards any of his companions it very much beckons understanding, just like we give grace to lestat one of Louis's abusers.
Idk if calling Louis, a little bitch for falling back into the only patterns he knows on how to cope with his trauma and his suicidal tendencies while showing Lestat kindness when he does something similar in how he handles his relationships and his companions because he too has not yet healed from his own trauma is the right move here. It does feel a little hypocritical.
I look at all these characters with the same shifting lenses and I'm all for accountability i just dont feel comfortable with disparaging Louis's character for not coping "properly" while givin another character a pass for doing the same thing "not coping properly". Anyways I just wanted to say that. Still, it was entertaining to see your reactions.
28:01 they did technically do something in post. The actor has said that they had a really really tiny chair that they had him sitting on so it wasn't wire work... But unfortunately even though he did have a little chair that they were able to remove in post he still needed to be using a pretty significant amount of core strength and leg strength to stay balanced on the chair... And he has said that it did eventually get very painful... But thankfully he was given access to massages after having to go through that in addition to also having to do a lot of wire work which did cause bruising... So yeah it was ultimately a pretty genuinely uncomfortable painful experience that definitely wasn't all acting ...but he did great!
21:00 The thing with Louis is, one minute you're annoyed with his whining and can't stand him, but the next one you sympathize with him and want to protect him. He's very unstable and he drags everyone with him to the bottom even if he genuinely doesn't want to do that or doesn't realize he's doing it. Frankly, those are the worst types, I wouldn't want to get myself trapped in a relationship with someone like that. But as a fictional character, he's very interesting and engaging to watch!
god your reactions are almost impossible to get through because of baz's steadfast defending of lestat while constantly talking shit about louis. louis is definitely flawed but not more so than any of the other characters and he is certainly not to blame for all of his misery, which has often been put on him by his family, lestat and armand respectively! of course everyone is entitled to their own opinions and favorite characters but the way you talk about louis is extremely icky tbh. i was hoping these gross comments would be gone in the new s2 reactions but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case so i have to step out here :( a shame because i really enjoy albert's honest reactions!!
hola me gustaria saber cuando subiran las reacciones de los cap 7 y 8 puesto que subieron su reaccion al teaser de el vampiro lestat
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as much as I enjoy your reactions, I think you really should let go of your bias that comes from your knowledge from the books, especially when it comes to Louis, because TV Louis is a complex character and the writers gave him an actual personality and flaws and depth besides his constant whining and complaining...
Armand ,the lying bastard of all time .........Lestat was a monster, but he never lied ....IMO....I love Daniel
I mean Lestat absolutely did lie by omission a good couple of times in season 1... So he's not not a liar. 🤷♀️
"this is the thing I never liked about Louis. He's just a little bitch" Whelp, that's my que to exit stage left. Saying that about a character who has been abused, broken, dragged to hell and back by virtually all these characters (save for Paul & Claudia), who's had some of the most heinous shit happen to him and been done to him. Literally by those who claim to love him. Who's endured and just accepted and forgiven MORE than you actually could... And somehow he's the "bitch" for not just bowing his head, shutting up and saying "thankyou sir". No, that's just not it at all. I wondered why I stopped watching your guys' videos back in S1. Definitely remember now. Yikes man.
I really like their videos but It feels like resentment from not liking book Louis 😭 Louis does make a lot of mistakes and he does end up owning up to it, but i agree with you he endures so much more than anybody could ever survive. I don't think anybody ever points out how cruel armand was in that episode because saying "you left me for death" after your boyfriend tried to kill himself because you triggered the hurtful memory of his daughter's death that YOU CAUSED? Why is it oh you left ME,, and not are you okay...
@@beautifulloly Exactly. And honestly you might be right. Personally I also love Louis' charscter from the books, but especially in the 1st book. While some horrible stuff did happen to him for sure, one of the main things so many book readers to complain about or their reason for not liking book Louis, is just that. That he's always whining or complaining, etc. And fair enough, I can get that. I don't agree per say, but I can understand why others would feel that way. But this show Louis, he literally never gets a break. Just over and over and over. He's abused, he's hurt, he's almost killed. He's rejected, he's oppressed and used, beset on all sides. He's put down and held down. He's forced to give up, sacrifice and lose. His wants and needs are put behind or last or just complete overlooked for others. And the list goes on and on...
Yet he still gets out of bed in the morning, he still puts his shoes on both feet. He still picks himself up and keeps going. He admits to his faults and failures, he accepts, he forgives. And while he is a Vampire, he still loves, etc. He's gone through so many things in both his mortal & immortal life that would drive anyone to s*icide, but he endured all the way up till this point. Most in his position would even be able to function, let alone be happy. But it's a problem that through all the trauma he's simply not okay. That after everything, he dares to have anything to say. It's just wild to me, how there's somehow a problem with that, for some, in regards to this show Louis. Like I watched a reactor literally end up getting genuinely emotional and shedding a few tears FOR Louis. Asking why Louis can never just get a break and why these horrible things keep being done to him. So idk...
Sorry, didn't mean for that to turn into a rant. Meant to just say; thankyou for the reply, and I think you might be right.
Chile all of the characters have been abused Louis just sat there and mocked Armand sexual assault. Just because you've been abused don't give you a reason to abuse others. He is literally abusing Claudia and he tossed her for Armand. We don't feel sorry for these grown men. we feel sorry for Claudia and paul !!!! Claudia literally never gets a break.
@@niyah7139 I've come across your anti-Louis comments on various videos. I don't have time for you. Just say you don't like the character and keep pushing, I'm not here for trolls and I'm not entertaining you. Go somewhere else man.
@@-Arkin33 Oh don't apologize for this rant ! I appreciated every single word I don't think i could have said it better. I feel like we always have to defend Louis for some reason. Yes I love him a lot so I'll always be there to defend him, but I also love the other characters, and i'm able to feel empathy for all of them despite their wrongdoings, so I don't understand why a lot of people can't do that with Louis. I wonder if it's because he's the protagonist, or if because it's a story about monsters people hate that's he's so humane and emotional. Like you said Louis is a character in immense pain, most of his life he's only been trying to survive, and others get to be mean and crazy and cruel to him because it's "just who they are", but Louis can't ? He's also a multifaceted character i don't get it! I could understand being frustrated with his hypocrisy and his refusing to admit that he can be just as cruel as Lestat or Armand or any other vampire, and that he tends to think of himself as above other people because he has human morality but still... Then it would be fair if we talked about armand and his mask to make it seem like he's normal and always trying to care for Louis and very selfless when he's everything but that for example!
Anyways, I don't think the reactors necessarily both feel the same way but it will be interesting seeing what they have to say when they see the ending of the season, especially sir on the right!