If you have 3 Dragons, you don't even need to shoot! | 20 Minutes till Dawn

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  • @unkn_grave7397
    @unkn_grave7397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    You could do both in regards to more fun stuff or just showing the Nonideal runs. You could show moments from the runs that died then also have the main focus of the video being the ideal run.

  • @breadeater1972
    @breadeater1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I want to see backpack hero but every relic is the same relic. Imagine having 9 corals!

    • @Blahaj_Gaming847
      @Blahaj_Gaming847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      or 9 spice bowls
      mmmm 9 damage per consumable

    • @breadeater1972
      @breadeater1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Blahaj_Gaming847 ikr, imagine that with ballista! (even though it's patched)

    • @breadeater1972
      @breadeater1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Blahaj_Gaming847 WAIT, 9 bombs plus slime sword!!!

    • @UnknownZYX_4085
      @UnknownZYX_4085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or 9 relics

    • @breadeater1972
      @breadeater1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UnknownZYX_4085 bomb is a relic.

  • @someonenamedsean91
    @someonenamedsean91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm always cool with you wanting to showcase specific runs!
    Definitely would like to see the devs give you the options on the elite upgrades for sure. Just add a couple more to the pool each and then adding the choice would be great

  • @zachariasadams1984
    @zachariasadams1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The goal of a roguelite is to provide fun through variation. You have to make choices based on the constraints of what you find.
    This game is not that. You're not making choices, you're just getting frustrated you got your upgrades in the wrong order.

  • @thepiperpie
    @thepiperpie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best measure you have of if something is fun is your experience, if you have fun, we likely will too

  • @AstrokittyM
    @AstrokittyM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They should implement a meta progression upgrade to unlock rerolls/more options for the Character specific Upgrades. So lets say 2 levels (pretty expensive) and either adds +1 choice, so at lvl2 you have all 3 for your first character specific upgrade

    • @AstrokittyM
      @AstrokittyM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      By it being a meta progression you would have to sacrifice another strong passive in order to get your run going

  • @RupertDwan
    @RupertDwan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think your issues really fall upon your preferred style of video, Sifd. I'm sure you know far better what works for your channel compared to me, but you do have a tendency to prefer highly curated "awesome" runs versus the consistently "decent" alternative.
    I appreciate that about your channel and consider it part of your content's charm, but it does put a greater burden on you as the creator. Your commentary also tends to fall more into the "critical eye" category as opposed to more of a "wide-eye'd reactionary" style, which I know can also pose a mental and emotional tax on creators over an extended period of time.
    You could consider recycling some of your less optimal runs into larger "subscriber focused" compliation videos with a more relaxed commentary. There is a pretty reliable metric of viewers who just want bulky videos to use for background noise. Depending on how willing you are to go through the editing process, this might be a reliable way to increase the value of your time investment and reduce your personal energy expenditure.
    Either way, I wish you all the best and look forward to your future channel growth. Don't be afraid to experiment and try new things, especially if it makes your work process more enjoyable and sustainable in the long run.

    • @mauro_carvajal
      @mauro_carvajal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i feel the same, i like the content, but sometimes it appears sifd just overextend for the ultra wild runs and sometimes dont chill and accept other moderate but good runs that can also be fun, i hope he doesnt burn out creating content

  • @breadeater1972
    @breadeater1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Sifd is invincible: ...
    When Sifd said did they test this: OMG HE SAID THE THING

  • @NatePrawdzik
    @NatePrawdzik 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with your critique. Those upgrades should be user choice. It would remove the tedium of restarting.

  • @alkestos
    @alkestos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you sifd for doing this for us. Honestly, there are not many content creators who would go to these lengths to guarantee a good video every time. I’m not being ironic, if you think I was.

    • @Sifd
      @Sifd  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks :D

  • @Jorge_Rego
    @Jorge_Rego 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tried this build so many times and didnt roll the passive I wanted... I agree with your suggestion about the 1 minute elite. Great video!

    • @cfilorvyls457
      @cfilorvyls457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or just do it like Seraph's last stand where you spend meta currency to reroll the choices.

  • @_i_a_n_
    @_i_a_n_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last time I played Shana I was on 3 hearts, picked up my triple and then totally forgot, then took miniclip for triple max health -1...

  • @absolutetacosgaming3360
    @absolutetacosgaming3360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You don't have to run yourself raggid trying to get good runs. Remember to have fun. Play different games so you don't get burnt out!

  • @Cookiekopter
    @Cookiekopter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sifd on beta branch you have endless mode where you can take the same upgrade multiple times

  • @entririhunter
    @entririhunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it just comes down to a lot of the upgrades are build-defining and none of them are going to feel great when there's only 2 minutes or something left. If they were generic AF but just a good upgrade it would just be a nice little power boost at the end.

    • @ApatheticHamster
      @ApatheticHamster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah massive trade off items make or break a build, especially with the randomness the devs have them set. Like you said, if they weren’t trade offs it wouldn’t be as bad but it also wouldn’t make the builds as fun… I guess it’s like TBOI where repeated runs are necessary to get the build you want.

  • @mellow3995
    @mellow3995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also I love the NL reference. Him, you and Aliensrock are my main fix of roguelikes and other fun games

  • @KAMUPhobies
    @KAMUPhobies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    still believe they should take the monster train approach regarding the elites, each elite killed becomes a forge upgrade
    maybe for shana's paths could be something like this
    Intilligent:
    1. next upgrade has doubled effect, exp gain + 10%
    2. next upgrade has triple effect, exp gain + 30%
    3. duplicate 1 current upgrade 3 times
    Hallowed:
    1. adds shana's halo pieces to the pool
    2. halo's stats are doubled (add another effect)
    3. halo's stats are tripled (add another effect maybe)
    Visionary:
    1. vision range +25%, glare tree effects scale over time
    2. vision range +50%, pick up range doubled
    3. vision range whole screen, slows enemies on screen, glare triggers 2x as fast
    of course everything needs tweaking (as ive just pulled these effects out of my ass), but its just an idea that i think would be really great as it specializes, unlike current's elite drops which is a hit or a miss, also players can pick and choose which path they want to combo with each other which could make a very interesting run imo

  • @Astera_
    @Astera_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I asked for this :D this was great!

  • @unkn_grave7397
    @unkn_grave7397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also picking your epic if there are only three makes since

  • @nunyobusiness835
    @nunyobusiness835 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are making runs to display builds. I say the more the merrier. you need what you need. keep up the good work.

  • @ApatheticHamster
    @ApatheticHamster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You weren’t off by calling them worms, these kinds of creatures would probably be considered wyrms due to the draconic wings, circular mouths ringed with teeth and wormlike body.

  • @Jeiness
    @Jeiness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a creator, you care so much about the content. I really appreciate that.
    Please don't burn yourself out, don't try to create *the perfect* video. You'll eventually get so tired of it. Do whatever you like doing. :3

  • @antiMatterDynamit
    @antiMatterDynamit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the faster deer boss is no joke dude... almost need freeze or speed to get away from him in darkness 15

  • @treechickens1232
    @treechickens1232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm happy to see some more less broken runs if u don't get the perfect upgrade.
    I think that, although it would be a lot of work for the devs, it would be rly cool if each character would have 5 upgrades and you can choose between 3

    • @eslin2845
      @eslin2845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or make it so the first elite lets you choose between 2 of the 3 while the second lets you choose one of the other 2 and the third elite lets you get the last

    • @treechickens1232
      @treechickens1232 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eslin2845 if you are doing that, why not be able to choose between all 3 of the first pick? Then you have some more natural progression (3 choices, 2 choices, 1 choice). Also, it would be cool to have more rewards but ye

  • @COZYTW
    @COZYTW 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feels like increasing the number of level up choices would fix the issue

  • @dogbitesayaosa4854
    @dogbitesayaosa4854 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Triple magic lenses sound fun

  • @DaGaBrokenHeart
    @DaGaBrokenHeart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep, if you have the shield up you are completly inmune to trees.

  • @Fikayoz
    @Fikayoz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This man casually calling out other content creators like NL and Wanderbots and very casually giving them opportunities @ increased viewerships

  • @SkibidiDogRizz
    @SkibidiDogRizz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    hey sifd just wanted to say this here so maybe youll end up seeing it but I noticed in your last 20 minutes till dawn video there was an absolutely broken thing that happened with the lens and the ghost summon. the lens works MORE THAN ONCE so the ghost damage ended up being over 2000 damage per shot so if you keep walking through the ghost shot with lenses it infinitely stacks +30% damage and size so you should try to do a run where you just infinitely stack a large shot and one shot the bosses
    it probably works with piercing too so maybe with a batgun you could make an infinite bat shot that kills everything?

    • @jamesmatthews8096
      @jamesmatthews8096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly the batgun has a timer for how long its' shots can stay in flight before it just disappears.

    • @SkibidiDogRizz
      @SkibidiDogRizz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamesmatthews8096 I didn't know if that timer is based on piercing however. Still though the ghost shots go long enough to do INSANE damage this way.

    • @mellow3995
      @mellow3995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SkibidiDogRizz Aliensrock did a great video showing this phenomenon, it's insanely broken though

    • @SkibidiDogRizz
      @SkibidiDogRizz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mellow3995 Oo thanks I love Aliensrock didnt know he played this, can you sauce me a link?

    • @mauro_carvajal
      @mauro_carvajal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SkibidiDogRizz th-cam.com/video/ZBwf6bMqIjE/w-d-xo.html

  • @gabecastronova4376
    @gabecastronova4376 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here’s a very fun combo, the first elite you get the halo, then with the triple upgrade you pick up the halo, it is over 150% damage, attack speed, and reload rate. (It may not work now, but it was fun!)

  • @Magidex
    @Magidex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fully support abandoning garbage runs.
    Every single game of Issac I play (except for Tainted Keeper), if the starting room isn't connected to an item room, I restart.
    I'm not here to suffer. I'm here to have fun.

  • @ToneDeafH8sPeas
    @ToneDeafH8sPeas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like failed runs compilations wouldn't be a bad idea

  • @henryboi9304
    @henryboi9304 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this phrase is going around instead of vampire surviver like: bullet heaven

  • @xatex1000
    @xatex1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i do agree that to balance the game some upgrades should only be available early in the game/ later on in the game.

  • @cheezeofages
    @cheezeofages 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    God I hope they do something about that charge sound. It's incredibly annoying when you rapidfire the thing.

  • @mellow3995
    @mellow3995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also also, it's primarily the lazer boss and dog boss which are VERY scary with darkness 15

  • @mellow3995
    @mellow3995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if you triple one of the glare upgrades, you can just stand still for most of the game excluding the micro dodging of red enemy shots of course. So you could do a no bullets run which bans ghost and dragon but not dagger, lightning, glare and some of fire/ice upgrades which don't spawn bullets.

  • @theo6396
    @theo6396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content

  • @jrk1666
    @jrk1666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    maybe after you beat the game for the first time you're allowed to choose which upgrades the elites give you but the elites becomes more like bosses themselves

  • @boskikayn4167
    @boskikayn4167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you could implement montage of all failed runs it would be kinda good

  • @yakobsidek5489
    @yakobsidek5489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do triple scythes it will be soooo op

  • @drukson
    @drukson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    u should go magic lens with summon builds its insane since dragon and ghost projectiles can pass through multiple times

  • @neovoid5008
    @neovoid5008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I almost agree completely.
    27:47 too buff
    27:49 too punk
    27:52 too ninja
    27:55 too beautiful
    28:04 too horny
    28:07 too normal loking

  • @MineNAdventurer
    @MineNAdventurer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It kinda annoys me how Sifd insists that Magic Lens is bad when really it's more just the middle two. The first upgrade itself is already busted and then the second upgrade just doubles thag brokenness. Like I get that Sifd doesn't like inflating his pool but at the same time it is annoying. Plus the burning upgrade still helps a wee bit and the bounce upgrade only hurts you if you have the grenade launcher (and even then if you have enough piercing it is very unlikely to bounce to you. Like when you have the Reaper Rounds upgrade since with Grenade Launcher you will likely kill the monsters in one shot if built well)

  • @efg896
    @efg896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I challenge u to get triple Shana's Aura!
    Btw, I did the triple glare thing, 1 run I did the triple glare dmg, and the other with the triple time reduce. The time reduce is better.

  • @travisthompson1679
    @travisthompson1679 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you tried Nomad Survivors? It looks pretty good. I like the reroll system.

  • @loljuuth150
    @loljuuth150 ปีที่แล้ว

    On rormodman (the modding thing I use) there’s a mod that allows you to infinitely rerole witch elite power you get

  • @PurplePantherBomb
    @PurplePantherBomb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna be chaotic and see your bad runs

  • @trentonbien3991
    @trentonbien3991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    have you seen the new endless mode yet?

  • @uiopclown8226
    @uiopclown8226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool

  • @JonesinForJosie
    @JonesinForJosie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They need buckets for each elite, so the upgrades can hit at times when they're good

  • @treechickens1232
    @treechickens1232 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish they put a bonus for having a darkness level at the end of the level

  • @Derluz
    @Derluz ปีที่แล้ว

    Last night while playing 20mtd I made nukw grenades

  • @davidjcritser
    @davidjcritser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BUUUUT SIIIIFD....ah yes...best jokes...period...every time...even when Im like "I dont get it" then I go to some comments...and totally get it.

  • @nicollasalmeida4936
    @nicollasalmeida4936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make 3×Fusilade (double base projectile) and have 8×4+1 projectiles coming from a shotgun?

  • @Blahaj_Gaming847
    @Blahaj_Gaming847 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i got my crossbow run so im happy :D

  • @imblackmagic1209
    @imblackmagic1209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello, i don't like northernlion, i don't know why, i just don't like him... so whatever he does i don't care, i'm glad you made this build on your channel!

  • @botulysses452
    @botulysses452 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's true that triple dragon is powerful but have u tried triple magic lens ! I guarantee it's crazy

  • @danielveloso9998
    @danielveloso9998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to do a busted build with the magic lens and summons

  • @GameTimeWhy
    @GameTimeWhy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you kill the trees? They take damage but it seems like if they can die they have massive health.

  • @mastatheif9909
    @mastatheif9909 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trust me dude, don't name drop other content creators ESPECIALLY Northernlion, nobody knows Northernlion, I was subbed to that dude when Isacc rebirth came out and nobody knows him even if he has like 800k subs lmao

  • @Dfleckt
    @Dfleckt ปีที่แล้ว

    "don`t even need to shoot"
    ....
    keep shooting whole run

  • @Kookie4uu
    @Kookie4uu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like both

  • @AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser
    @AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser ปีที่แล้ว

    What your rune set up??
    Because I'm still failing to get past 10 minutes.

  • @lefoo
    @lefoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe leave the chest until the next elite to get +120% exp?

  • @joshuakononoff2821
    @joshuakononoff2821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    TRIPLE MAGIC LENS

  • @cooperton4949
    @cooperton4949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean, Hollywood magic is ok. Maybe don't point it out though. :-)

  • @تركيالعنزي-ر5د6ش
    @تركيالعنزي-ر5د6ش ปีที่แล้ว

    Please tell me how to make the bow charge the shot like you d

  • @beaniiman
    @beaniiman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wait, @sifd are you from the future?

  • @COdreSG2
    @COdreSG2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    magic lens is big with whay you had

  • @CoffeeSipper555
    @CoffeeSipper555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Level is not a good indicator , some builds are stronger with less upgrades

  • @samuelevans738
    @samuelevans738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    20:17 I disagree with the notion that "Enemies having too much health" is a fair way to make things difficult; at the end of the day, all it does is make the enemies annoying. Giving them smarter AI? That's fine. Giving them the option to make hazards the player has to avoid? Go ahead. But just making the enemies have bigger numbers is lazy and boring.
    Apologies about the rant; I know game design is hard, but I have... feelings... about this approach.

    • @KAMUPhobies
      @KAMUPhobies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it leads to REvillage nightmare difficulty, zombies becomes sponges and the game doesnt give you enough bullet for them, literally becomes a "can you knife zombies and shoot bosses to death" game

  • @W3rfy373
    @W3rfy373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you try brotato crit hunting trophy money makeing build ? the best i've seen is wave12 12k money finish i bet you can top that i know how deidicated you can get when makeing specific video

  • @ninez0293
    @ninez0293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When triple ghost friend?

  • @Treboogie99
    @Treboogie99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I spent literally 2 hours rerolling runs trying to get this run and i never got it.

    • @Treboogie99
      @Treboogie99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have also been trying to get triple Halo

  • @mastatheif9909
    @mastatheif9909 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The creators of the games make these upgrades random for replayability, if you could choose any upgrade you want people would get tired of these games and stop buying them, it's bad business and bad gameplay, how many times would you have played the game if you could choose any upgrade for instance

  • @rowdyroo4808
    @rowdyroo4808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I suck so much at this game 😩 I haven't made it past 15 mins lol 🙄

  • @coldwarrior3794
    @coldwarrior3794 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have good content but if you’re playing a run that you got from another creator it’s good sport to plug their channel.

  • @mastatheif9909
    @mastatheif9909 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every single episode you've made of this is complaining that if it's not the first one you've gotten you're gonna trash the video, nobody cares 😭

  • @red-xy5ff
    @red-xy5ff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi 23 minutes late

  • @milkyway9028
    @milkyway9028 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    :)

    • @milkyway9028
      @milkyway9028 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A sifd video always puts a smile on my face

  • @lucjanl1262
    @lucjanl1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:40 Northernlion is "another" huge content creator, which plays this game? Aren't you getting a little ahead of yourself?

  • @chud312
    @chud312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Northernlion has a million subs he's not small but I like yours better.