Why French Car Makers are Constantly Failing in INDIA Since 1997?
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- French is one of the oldest car makers in the World and India has been present since the late '90s
But even with their old presence, and excellent market experience with multiple brand entries, they have not been able to achieve success in the INDIAN market
so what could be the reason?
we have 2 "The Sleeping Bear" and " The Aspiration Void" so what are these actually?
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i subscribed after watching bro's first video .
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So it is!!
Renault lost their heart during the bs6 transition and are finding it very hard every since. The k9k was a very important engine that powered a variety of cars. Both Renault and Nissan are now lacking in proper engine options we
They have gdi engines and better Powertrains globally but failing to manufacture that in india due to low volumes.
I feel the engine of a car is the most important thing, but somehow broke their own ethos or the identity that they had
@@raunaksingh1257 exactly. They have really good options overseas
@@Siddharth_shivshankar yes engine is the most important. Especially the k9k is a proven workhorse. Easily can last 2.5L kms with just oil changes. The current 1L NA and 1.0L turbo are disappointing. The 1.3 in kicks was good but that product never took off
@venukrithish007 Indians are only obsessed with Mileage and features ... that too comfy features and not safety featured ... ab kya hi kr sakte hai
I think Citroen, Renault's marketing strategy & poor innovation is killing their sells in India. Seriously they deserve better
Wagon r ka konsa innovation acha lgta hai re tereko😂
We want duster again soon in India 👍👍
No one will buy it now. They have already lost the race.
Duster launch to ki thi 150 PS. Engine k sath Jo Mercedes k sath mil kr banaya tha lekin public ne response he nhi diya.
Indian public ki mentality ki vajh se he India me car Market limited companies k hath me hy
May be by 2025 Diwali we can expect the new duster.
#Gangs of Duster
My diesel Logan still has very similar Ride quality to the duster and mileage is 27 kmpl at 100kmph cruise❤ Build Quality is very solid too as compare to Hyundai and Fusuki 💯
Well said bro.. 👍
Ye load le jaega.. Fusuki k baare mein sun k. Paise milte hain na us se promotion k liye..
@@AK-xj8lg Paise milte toh Duster aur Logan aur C5 ki tarif kyu karta wo? Ab achhe ko achha aur kharab ko kharab hi bolenge na. I am a Kwid owner and I know the quality and reliability.
Engine oil tank bhi plastic ka hai, ek baar neeche se lagg gyi thi aur wo plastic tank toot ke sara engine oil neeche gir gya.
Kismat achhi thi ki hamne turant engine off kar diya nahi toh engine hi seize ho jata.
Alto bhi metal tank deta hai. Way more reliable than Kwid.
@@Bhakt-TheDevotee to Alto hi le leta na bhai 😂🙏🏼
@@warmfishsalad Ye 2015 ki baat hai tab design wise Kwid best tha apne segment me. Aur apni city ka mai hi first Kwid owner tha toh ye sab quality issues khaeedne ke baad pata laga. Iska silencer bhi ukhad gya hai wo welding karwa ke chala raha hu.
Aur tab TH-cam pe car reviewers bhi nahi hote the.
Agar aaj koi mujhe Kwid aur Alto me choose karne bole toh mai Alto choose karunga.
Service center ke chakkar lagane se toh achha hi hai.
@@Bhakt-TheDevotee welding to meri alto me bhi 2 baar ho chuka hai 😂
Indian brands making tanks like cars 😅.. made my day 😅 build quality top notch 👍
But you will buy only tin ka dabba
Tank-like cars inspired Germans, Swedish and British engineering. Apart from excellent built quality, unfortunately both Indian brands are making crappy Unreliable cars flawed with quality issues and offering the worst after sales service in the country..... that's the bitter truth.....
@@raceking83bro Mahindra cars have better reliability than tata cars
@@JEONJOMON Agreed. But nowhere near its international rivals. Only better than Tata in terms of reliability.
@@raceking83 yeah I know I have a Innova and I know what really is reliability
I have the Renault Kiger RXT Turbo CVT ... Ya it has a 3 cylinder engine ... But I got a NCAP 4 🌟 rating Turbo CVT version ... ample boot space and a good pick up ... Very happy with the performance ... Cheers to Renault 🎉
Yes me too but. mileage is
Same, have triber amt, bought it for just 7 lkh, 4 star ncap, no other brand can dare give an amt in this price
@@there-tro-re-loadx2953 how's it compare to ertiga?
@@shubham_M7777 you are going to miss the punchy power that ertiga gives because of the difference in engine but rest everything is livable and better including the build quality, if you want power, you should definitely go for ertiga
@there-tro-re-loadx2953 the power in ertiga is not because of a good refined engine ... but because of downgraded steel quality and lighter weight of Suzuki vehicles
Having worked with different European equipment's at my work as an Industrial engineer, I have found that the French make very durable and fun to work with machines. Its actually surprising that they are following some other concept for Indian car markets.
Tum mechanic ho kya?
Vo hame ab bhi garib samajte hai
I purchased Renault kiger 8 months ago, and dude what a car it is. It has everything space, power, nice audio system, everything that a normal person needs. When i tune it on eco mode i get around 17-18kmpl mileage and moreover it has 4 star safety ratings so no issue with the safety. Although their sales might be down but quality and car is top-notch i really liked my car, i dont know about other french car brands.
3cylinder feels like earthquake 😅
@@yashvardhan5836 not really brother depends on how much you push it, I usually drive it at 50-60kmph so it is really smooth at this speed idk if it feels like earthquake at higher speeds
@@sahil2119 dds and lot automobile journalist said its a underpowerd car. Magnite is good but less showrooms and network.
Exactly bro ... mine is Turbo CVT ... very smooth ride ... fantastic pick up and ya you don't even realize that you have crossed 80 with a slight foot on the pedal. Ya, in the Turbo CVT versions u might need to pay the penalty of mileage, but again, no way is the vehicle underpowered or no way do you experience any drag/lag ... rather, as I drive in Mumbai, need to be alert and have my leg on the brakes, this beast moves ahead like a gazelle 😀😀😀 ... All in all ... love my stealth black RXT Turbo CVT beast "Fury"😍😀😀
@@Sarang23818 exactly my thoughts its a beast on turbo, i live in delhi and it just slides throughout the traffic. I usually drive it on eco so mileage is between 15 to 18
Well said, in India car is not just a mode of transport it is a way to showcase yourself
Dad bought Citroen EC3 , in May 2023. It has done total of 10k km till now. Getting mileage of 280 in ideal condition (Ac off , Highway and constant speed of 60-75 kmph). And getting regular range of 220-240 km (ac on , normal mode , high traffic). Till now the ride quality and comfort is top notch. Only negative thing is that it feels outdated in instrument cluster , door handle , no rear wiper etc. But it does has mobile connect feature. Service on wheel is good too (distance between service center and home is 320 km) . And we have also received the 1L rupee subsidy in UP (many people were saying that subsidy on EV in UP is only valid on Tata and MG). Build quality is not the priority for us , q ki city road pr hi chalna hai.
Bhai ye mera dream car tha but gharwale lene nahi diye EV hai bolke 😭😭.
Bro subsidy kab aayi
@@evkagyan8598hai subsidy saari EVs pr
Exact date nahi yaad , but 2nd half of sept me aayi
There's no car today in market which can match the ride quality of duster. It was a blockbuster hit back in the day but Renault spoilt it without proper updates. If they launch a properly updated duster soon, it can turn tables for Renault.
Renault is going to launch all new Duster 2024.👍
Nice content.....also my Kiger delivers 12 kmpl in city and 18 kmpl on highways . It took be 3 weeks to figure it out how to drive it properly , as i have habit of driving Baleno which delivers good milage even in rough driving . My point is , you cannot drive Kiger rough .
The content quality of your videos are great, excellent research goes into each video and that's apparent. You deserve more subscribers.
Renault should bring back Duster with new avtar .
You totally right bro, it was a exact competitor of scorpio
@@Ags0512 Han ! Agar new generation Duster ayegi wo bhi new looks , top-notch safety , build quality aur top-notch features ke sath to hi Renault ki sales badhegi.
par duster ayegi toh uspe tax ki wajah wo uska base variant hee 12 lakh plus zaroor hoga... foreign brands ka khel khatam hee hai filhal ke liye
@@idiosyncrasy972 To yahan manufacture kare na Renault nayi wali Duster ko
Duster is coming back in 2024
I understand the topic the overall pitch of the video, I have been watching you videos for a long time and love the content.
But I have a point of view on this -
Cars are built for a purpose and made appeal or Target to a certain or in some cases wider audience. I have experience in the industry.
When a car is pitched it has to cater to a segment, a budget and check all the necessary terms. There might be compromises that are made in other aspects
Eg - you said kiger - it is built for an urban cruiser that is jacked up good looking can accommodate a family. Hence it is safe (4 star) has features that are usable and made to a budget where very less sub-4 meter car starts from. That's the USP and the target audience for the product.
Whereas Citroen c3 is a driver focused car that is built to give you driving pleasure, but that comes at a cost of features.
It is not possible to build a perfect car that fits in eveeones budget, you have to prioritise what the car is built for and whom it is built for.
Thanks for reading this long comment. 😊
Duster was just 🔥. it was too ahead of its time . the engine the 4x4 everything
Agree with you. Own the 110 psi one. It's literally a bomb
Duster looked like an insect
@@smeshnoymatvey2054 much better than froggy nexon though
I have heard that cietron engines are good. May be market study isn't good 😅. May be Renault and cietron should join and make a new good SUV that can save both
Citroen’s engines are decent but they lack on every other aspect,
@@Biturbomediabhai nano relaunch hogi kya ?
nhi@@siddhantrastogi5549
@@Biturbomedia suspension and transmission is also better than Hyundai and Suzuki, I felt it while test driving
@@Biturbomediabro please reply 🙏 🙏 plan to buy a car for family under 12 lakh on road which is best , my first option is Renault KIGER
bhai bahut sari compact suv and hatchbacks mei one litre engine aate hain. Kiger aur kwid total value for money hai aur four star rating bhi hain kiger ko.
This channel his no nonsense features and full utility and knowledgeable vedios ❤
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Chose Renault Turbo CVT after test driving many cars due to its VFM, 6000 kms done. Happy with my second Renault after 2015 Duster. A reliable brand with poor marketing and car launch strategy.
Bro have you bought kiger ?
@@maakalaadlamkl991 yes I have bought Kiger.
6:10 1 ltr engine is not the problem. I'd say the problem is tuning for people wanting more from it. Kiger turbo power to wt and torque to wt ratio is higher than breeza (1.5l engine). And VW is also giving 1ltr turbo engines that too in their C segment SUV. Even the Kiger/Magnite 1.0NA engine are sufficient for city usage. Considering kiger suspension it is best in the segment. The comfort and space it offer is unrivaled. For someone upgrading from ALTO 800 or Hyundai Eon, KIGER 1.0 NA is enough (70% city 30% highway use case). The problem is reviewer campare everything with performance provided u don't need performance it is a very good car. And India is Renaults 5th highest sellling country.
We own a KIGER NA and Hyundai 800. For the price of hatchbacks with no space in rear we got Kiger with more than enough space and it's a safe car too. Giving good mileage is another point to note
Bhai tera content on spot and quality hota hai you will be the automotive guru for everyone..❤ try harder I'm with you for my views 😊
I can say that, French automobile company doesn't copy or follow and nobody in the world follows French in terms of design.
Great work. Keep delivering quality content. Subs will come.
Renault kiger turbo cvt owner here
I mean i love the car it looks good very powerful the problems i have with it are
*Mileage i get 9.5 in every condition i have a heavy foot due to my driving
*Sound insulation is bad
*Brake noise at low speeds
*Ride quality not as good as capture or duster
*Windshield washer is not hidden
*sounds when car is articulating
Bro I'm planning to buy kiger
Can you give more insights about the car.
5:43 "Indians toh 'Tank' jaisi gadiya bana rahen hai"😅
I think Honda is the only company that really understands our market i believe, atleast looking at present days. Indians need botched up SUVs which looks good inside out and exactly what they did by bringing elevate. Success in our market doesn't come along fastly. I still believe Citroen has future in our Market considering the commitments they are making towards our country, Kia got traction because of Hyundai and tech(ofcourse FTA with south korea boosted it) , Toyota due to its legacy of reliability and boost by MS . Tata did same too botched up suv with good looks inside out but more importantly they played really good with word "build quality" which garnered more attention. Mahindra is known for its power and torque but they got extra pieces of cakes due to again good looks inside out . So for Renault to get market they should tie-up with nissan and bring suv that has macho looks and good interiors and ofcourse slogan called " best service affordability" if they give some benifit of clarity that Renault and nissan can give better service and spare at low cost then booom .
Honda is even worse at the moment at grasping the Indian market... Even biturbo made video on it
@@PS-ug7nm I mean am not saying that they are gaining good margins but the thing is they only have 3 cars 2 sedans and one this elevate all three are winning in their respective segments considering both Hyundai and vw-skoda twins has brought in their good sedans so it's still has good momentum in sedan segments and coming to SUVs, they don't have any other cars except elevate which is doing great at very launch period, and to make it clear Honda is actually goin alone (foreign company)in this market which is quite impressive if we look it that way . They are slow but they bring some hits with what they have in their stable. Companies doesn't have to bring loads of cars it's just that bring best one even if it's 1 cars of sedan / suv in each 10-20-30L segments , that's enough i believe. Their all 3 cars are working for them so they do understand the market a bit.they messed in the past but hope they don't do the same mistake by neglecting. They still have brand name if given importance like they gave it to elevate then they might hop back into the game . :Just an option based on my perspective
Honda is worst. They were sleeping for the past 7-8 years.
@@sandeepjugni2347city sales has even declined below virtus and compact sedan is already single handedly ruled by dzire .elevate sales are nowhere near creta , seltos and grand vitara so I don't know what u are talking
Hyundai and Kia understands the market very well. That's why they are successful in India
Renault logan's engine The diesel one was most reliable man.... my dad still uses 2009 logan
You must also make a video on how indian government’s taxation policies is killing car culture in India .
I guess he already did
I first press thumbs up button and watch the video because I know content is Bang on this channel. Great quality videos for sure.
wow, didnt know that renault and citroen made such cars too. It's always a pleasure to watch your videos.
Bhai Europe me to inki bhot badhiya cars mileti hey , lekin Indian public ki mentality ki wajah se ye companies India me models launch nhi kr pati jbki India itni bdi car Market hey it's sad
Renault Kiger does feel underpowered but Citroën C3 Turbo has a beast engine in it's segment and now with Shine variant, it has most of the basic features and Turbo exclusive features making it value for money now.
totally agree. i went to see citroen C3 but it lacked basic features even in top model, however hyundai i10 nios offers so many tech features with good interiors and exteriors. Indians like car with more features, lights, drls etc.
DRLs to C3 me bhi hai bro
@@warmfishsalad check price to features ratio. I 10 nios is way better
I own a kiger.. engine thoda sa under power h but its ok chalta h. Aisi kuch khas dikkat ni aati. Mere hisab se bhot hi zabardast car h kiger.. duster k level ki.. ab india me bhedchal me log wagon r kharidte h to iska matlab ye ni ki kiger achi car ni h.. kiger k 2023 model me sare features h.
One should also mention Renault's great after sales service and off road assistance.
i drive a 2012 or 2013 mahindra verito d6/ renault logan last ever top end model. its reliable, smart, and a LOT of luggage space. verito was underrated
Citroen is growing fast from past 2 -3 months. In Chattisgarh. Specially Durg and Raipur
7:50 min, I checked fender lines for my Magnite (Kiger's me too product) and surprised to see it is missing ! It shows cost cutting is done at some places. Also performance of 1L NA engine at 1st and 2nd gear is not smooth. Again reverse gear lacks power and struggles even on little slope. For city and light use its okay. My Magnite co-driver seat belt needed replacement at 2 years and Nissan refused replacement.
I have a citroen c3 and it realy drives like a flying carpet and interior feels more lively then hundai i20. It has a lot of space even more then brezza. Only feature missing is electronicaly adjustable side mirrors. Gives fuel efficiency of 20kmpl if driven at 70- 80 kmph. Turning radius is very less and has more manuverabilty. Hundai and kia also make good cars but most of the features they are giving are not needed.
Any one remeber the brand LML.
LML ADRENO was my childhood crush. 🥰😘🥰
I like the designs of Citroen...
I have a Renault Kwid and I'm happy with the car. I really like to drive it. 😊😄
Suzuki santro😂😂😂
Why single out French cars, American cars also failed because they focussed on power and nothing else. Only German(at high end), Japanese(mileage) and South Korean( price advantage due to FTA) cars survived.
In fact you should do a video on how kia has a huge advantage due to FTA with South Korea.
he has already made a video on " why american cars fail in India ".
Tata ke after sales and service pe video bano sir jii
Dude your videos are ones that I never miss.
I think you have done the perfect Assessment of French cars, Sometimes I feel that their market analysis has gone totally wrong, because Indian customers have become more sensible and technically much aware, I strongly feel the French Manufacturers should bring some good quality products and concentrate more on localizing their production. The Peugeot, Renault and Nissan have world-class products that can revolutionize the Indian market.
@biturbo bhai mujhe pata nahi but firstly aapka content, research, history part, video quality, audio quality, editing and lastly but not the least..... Aapki aawaaz se mai obssessed ho gaya hu.
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It's something like a weekly dose for me.
Really appreciate your work and keep doing the same ❤
Owning a Renault Kiger,its a very good car 🚗 , have travelled over 16k kms without any problems anywhere
If Citroen C5 aircross made in India , it will cost 27L ex showroom , approximately 31-32 Lakh on road in UP. Many diesel heads would have considered this car over Jeep compass , Hyundai Tucson and even XUV700 and Tata Safari if they were not DKL fans 🥲
Mujhe aapke videos ka intezar rehta he and every video never fails to entertain and provide quality information.
Hi Biturbo.
I wish if you could make a detailed video on car's category.
Most of people are unable to understand theirs categories.
Sedan, semi sedan, hatchback, SUV, MPV, bla bla bla
I'm too unable differentiate them
Very good analysis. You gained a new subscriber today 😊
8:16 aspirational value bhai indian iske chakkar me naa jane Kitna overspend kar dete hai khasskar aaj kal ka sabse chapri features jaise sunroof, infotainment 😂😂 autofold mirror but na engine na power kuch nahi dekhte
Safety toh bhull hi jaoo
Indians making tanks ❤😂 Tata🎉
Renault is successful and not ripping off your money 💰 as other automobile companies..
Every video of ur channel is interesting to watch and with ur voice added gives this vid a life ❤ 🔥 much support
i really like your content brother, but please add some video about bikes in india, brands like honda , yamaha ,why they ignoring indian people
the French deserve this for underestimating us Indians
Not just french i would say all brands except the Korean and Japenese ones. Fiat, Ford, Datsun, Cheverlot, GM, Volkswagon, etc are suffering or exited the Indian Market. Only Mercedes and Audi were able to sustain as Non Japanese/korean/Indian brands to sustain as the customer base wants European workmanship over cost.
Indian auto market is like aviation. Only few are sustaining and hundreds have tried their luck.
Been watching all videos since last year . This is very underrated channel
Very well said.. Renault and Fiat have some fantastic and solid build vehicles but this thinking "Specially made for India" is failing them! Same with Kia Motors too. All these guys use High Tensil Steel for their countries and compromise to cut cost for Indian market as if our lives are cheap!! When they do this, people boot them out! Recently I reviewed Triber.. so functional, practical but under powered and that is the issue! Hope these companies make effort to hear the feedbacks coming via multiple channels and improve which is what TATA did.
Top quality content.. you reinvented my interest in cars .. thank you
Renault's 3 cars that they have at present are not bad......kwid is a small car so doesn't need the turbo option and kiger has it.....and I don't think the kiger turbo is under powered and it got most of the required features and looks also good......and even 4 star rated......triber is only lacking a good engine option otherwise its a fine car......i think lots of maruti sales also include comercial cars as they are cheap to maintain and good mileage...... Citroen cars in India are very bad i would admit but Renault cars are very well balanced products just requires a little bit tweeking here and there
50% tax ke sath koi bhi foreign company bina tie-up kiye bina survive nhi kr paegi. Europe ka economy abhi khasta hai aur investment jada kr nhi skte duality of customer ko dekhkr.
At 5:42 bro forgot to mention mahindra who is a mixture of all.
6:48 suzuki santro opp
Bhai hundai aur suzuki ka bhi tieup ho gya kya
Clicked video... Liked and then I started watching ❤
C5 pricing was disastrous, just 5L less and it would have washed compass and tucson out from the segment.
Not in India .French brands are failing in international markets also except Buggati
Bravo You Launched a New Car 🎉 (Another Tin ka Dibba)
The Suzuki Santro @6:47 😂
2023 bs6.2 enigine very refined and pick up is good
Renault car is good car long life engine good body power my life this car cannot breakdown in any area i cant see
Cost is Answer, if compete with Indian cars, if if they are providing affordable cars, then they definitely win the selling
Apart from just reviewing new launches analysis is engaging
Felt perfectly analysed. Citron and reno need to understand indians mind the way korens did ... especially kia
Lovely! This is goood content and very informative and different
I have Renault Kiger Turbo RXZ and it’s super awesome in everything (price, features, build quality, power, driving exp) I am a very happy Renault customer.
Great videos as always. Just one thing that I felt (I may be wrong)
The quality of the script was not as good as it usually is.
Imagine buying an Citroen electric over Tata and then adjusting your outer rear view mirror by hand 😂
A car can tell a Man's personality.
So those who buy Renaults in India, Well Uhhh......
Thanks A Million I got Nice Knowledge from this Video and it will help me.
Creta still can't match rugdness and ride and handling balance of Duster
Thanks for giving free marketing research...🎉
Brands are good but their management is not that good..and people must understand that giving extreme monopoly to few top companies will create devasting effect in future
Mozzarella reference thoda ajeeb tha.....french cheese mein brie ek example ho sakta tha....jo image thi wo bhi swiss cheese ki thi
The French should get a good MPV for which there is a tremendous scope plus get a Modern Duster like car to cover up for SUV craze in INDIA.
Could you add English sub in videos. You content are amazing and it will be easier to understand for more wider audiences.
Subtitles are integrated now
Thanks for pointing it out.
Saw two cars,one Citroen another mahindra,both engine sound were same in slow speed.Diesel.
You did not cover the basic drawback of citroen C5 which is the engine option. They don't provide petrol engines as an option in times when there is push from the govt to remove diesel vehicles.
2019 se triber mai turbo engine launch kar rahe hai par aaj tak koi pata nahi reno ka
6:48 Suzuki santro?? 😂😂
Renault should launch creta rival with good marketing strategy
Renault Duster: Hold my Beer 🍺
beer rakhi rakhi bekar hogyi hai ab. Ek taraf scorpio n , creta , seltos , jaisi cars hai .. waha renault ka un updated dibba kaun hi lega
I was looking forward to Renault Arkana. But I don't think they will be launching it.
Good analysis. Don't miss to take the name of Fluence. It was a good car.
People in here prefer tincans than machines that performs nd long lasting.... But reno need to be aggressive with its products portfolio
6:47 Suzuki Santro 😅
Mujhe Aaj bhi yaad hai jab DUSTER ka daur hua karta tha 2013-14 me ! Dekhne me kya lagti thi ! Meri dream car thi class 8 me ! Aur aaj dekho 😢