What is a eMMC? Intro, Comparing to Other Storage, and Upgrading. SSD, M.2
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In this short video I introduce what the eMMc is and how it compares to other storage devices like SSD. I then go over how to change or upgrade a eMMC.
Most eMMC come with either 32GB or 64GB storage. These are the most common sizes of eMMC storage, but you can also find 128GB storage, however I did not find any on eBay or any other stores when I looked.
Upgrade instructions at 6:08
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Note to those wishing to upgrade their eMMC on their laptops:
The eMMc a chip that is soldered on; it cannot be easily removed and does not have a socket, as is found with the CPU. If you have a lot of experience with BGA (Ball Grid Array) soldering you might be able to find a chip online on Aliexpress for the higher capacity model of your laptop. I would also recommend the Reballing stencil that matches your particular eMMC. When I contacted Acer and Asus support for this, they had no way to address this. They were unsure of which specific eMMC model would work as an upgrade.
it is ok to mount a ssd and then to move the OS from ethe emmc to the ssd?..m2 ssd
@@claudiugalea3038 This laptop is designed to have the OS on the eMMC that came with the unit.
Question, I have hp, HQ-TRE, 71025 I guess it's from Boeblingen, Germany. It's currently running Windows 10 pro with 28gb of storage how do I upgrade the storage to a SSD, if possible? Your video explains a lot of why I'm having problems with this laptop/notebook. Now I know the reason why 8 cannot upgrade my windows. Thanks in advance for the response.
what kinda space is left on w10 64gig emmc
@@kenzie4786 With Windows 10 on 64 GB EMMC. I would have about 36 GB left. This is an old video. We now use much larger SSD. Today I would use the 512 GB as the smallest space, but would recommend at least 1 TB.
Selmateacher7 has issued another great video to keep his viewers on the cutting edge of technology. Not many guys study technology to the fine detail as this guy. This is an excellent and informative video and he has lots of other videos on a wide range of topics. Highly recommended.
Found this video 3 years later , but still valid up till today (2021)
Thank you Sir
thanks so much Teacher, also for putting the text because it helps for non speakers native of english, but all your videos are amazing.
Thank you for the compliment. I hope all goes well for you.
Great video, expressed and verified what I understood about eMMC. I'm attempting to continue upgrades to a Garmin smartwatch. I've upgraded the watch band with 7 lithium polymer batteries in parallel with NTC protection for 3-4x overall battery life (+620 mAh). Now I'm considering maximizing storage to 64 or 128 gb. It turns a $110 watch from ebay into a model that hardware spec-wise beats their $900 models!
Thank you for the comment. wow
Awesome DIY-content! Thank you very much 🙏✌
I am always happy to hear that.
I imagine the reason for the storage difference in the reference in the $500 PCI Express SSD versus the $40 even see storage module is because there the base model for premium devices.
Yes you can have a 64 gig SSD running your computer but I really recommend having at least 128 so you have enough room for Chromeand you know other basic programs not including games and then having extra storage so you're SSD actually lasts more than 2 years
worthwhile to see your video good explanation.
Thank you. Very informative video on eMMc and SSD
Subscribed! Very informative! Does eMMC use the same technology like MLC or TLC, and have the same P/E cycles?
Thank you for subscribing. eMMC, uses an embedded, non-volatile memory system that has both NAND flash memory and a flash memory controller that is integrated on a single silicon die and is normally fused onto the host device's motherboard or a discrete PCB. Typical eMMC endurance is around 3000 P/E cycles. TLC is about the same (3k cycles) and MLC is 10k P/E cycles.
@@selmateacher7 I see. Thank you very much for the answer and explanation.
@@j.d.3269 I am always here to help.
Thank you! Great content!
I always try my best
And they put win 10 which requires a fair bit of storeage on these EMMC laptops so it can't even run properly after installing a few others bits of software, what a joke.
So very true! Thank you for the comment.
Is it feasable to clone an emmc to a M.2 drive on a laptop? I have never tried that before but I may be trying it soon. It should be easy enough to select the boot drive in the BIOS afterwards right?
Yes, It is possible.
Cloning an eMMC (embedded MultiMediaCard) drive to an M.2 drive in a laptop is indeed feasible, and it's a common process used to upgrade storage or improve performance. However, there are a few important considerations to keep in mind:
**Compatibility:** Ensure that the M.2 drive you plan to use is compatible with your laptop both physically (M.2 form factor) and in terms of interface (SATA or NVMe). Confirm the laptop's M.2 slot supports the same interface as the M.2 drive you intend to use.
**Cloning Software:** You'll need cloning software to transfer the data from your eMMC drive to the M.2 drive. Popular tools like Acronis True Image, Clonezilla, or Macrium Reflect are commonly used for this purpose.
**Proper Cloning Process:**
1. **Backup:** Before starting, ensure you have a backup of your important data. Cloning is generally safe, but having a backup is a good practice.
2. **Cloning:** Connect the M.2 drive (using an external enclosure, if needed) and use the cloning software to copy everything from the eMMC to the M.2 drive.
3. **BIOS Configuration:** After cloning, you'll need to go into your laptop's BIOS and set the M.2 drive as the boot drive. Most laptops will allow you to easily select the boot drive from the BIOS settings.
4. **Data Verification:** After booting from the M.2 drive, ensure that all your data and applications are working as expected. Sometimes, small adjustments might be needed due to the change in storage.
**UEFI and Secure Boot:** Some laptops use UEFI firmware and Secure Boot. When switching drives, you might need to adjust UEFI settings to allow booting from the new drive. This can sometimes involve disabling Secure Boot or configuring Secure Boot keys for the new drive.
**Activation and Licensing:** If your operating system is licensed, make sure the license is transferrable to the new drive. In some cases, you might need to reactivate the OS.
**Driver Considerations:** If your eMMC drive is significantly different from your M.2 drive (e.g., SATA vs. NVMe), you might need to update drivers to ensure optimal performance.
While the process itself is relatively straightforward, the specifics can vary depending on your laptop's model, BIOS, and the software you use. Reading your laptop's documentation and researching specific laptop and drive models can provide more precise guidance. As with any technical process, patience and thoroughness are key to a successful outcome.
Thank you for the question.
Very comprehensible video! liked it and subscribed!
Thank you
eMMC is still solid state drive. Just a correction. eMMC is just different type of ssd memory. Good video though. Thanks for sharing Sir
Very true. eMMC is a type of solid state drive.
The new base variant steam deck has eMMC storage so thank you for the explanation.
Glad to help!
How do you transfer the files off of the eMMc flash storage? Assuming that is the type of storage it uses. Apologies, this is all new to me....LOL. Thanks for your help! We have removed it from the computer, now how do I transfer it off. Is there something simple I could buy at a local store without having to order online? To insert it in or enclose it in? Our computer will not power on, so we are trying to retrieve the files. HP 14" Stream Touchscreen Laptop AMD Processor - 4GB RAM Memory - 64GB Flash Storage - Model (14-fq0037nr)
Any files within the eMMc would need to be copied before removing it from the system. Personal files can be copied to a USB flash drive. After the files are copied, then remove the eMMc drive and install the larger capacity eMMc drive. .. Windows would need to be re-installed. The OS should be found here:
www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/
I got a 32gb emmc storage laptop, it has an M.2 SSD slot. Can I move the OS from emmc to the M.2? Is it possible?
Thank you for the question. Yes. You will need to use a clone utility, like Acronis Disk Director.
@@selmateacher7 thank you very much. I'm going to try. 👍🏼
I was considering turning my old laptop into a Chromebook, but I need an SSD and I'm looking but on pcpartpicker apparently for $17 you can get a 64 gig SDbut I was curious if you could get an email see or universal flash storage SATA drive
There are many good deals out there. We often install 256 SSD drives in older laptops and that really gives them new life. We find those for around $45 at newegg. Thank you for the comments. Have a great day.
nice information :)
Thank you.
So eMMC is the newest (old now) data storage for laptops? For extra storage, backup files et. al. I could use an external hard drive instead of a flash card?
Yes. Internal storage on many laptops is m.2 and even a few have u.2. ext usb drives are very small and that is what I find myself using today.
Hi Mr. Berry. If I change the eMMC of my laptop by a m.2 ssd, would the battery life be shorter? Thank you.
Thank you for the question. First of all, changing the eMMC to M.2 requires a M.2 port on the main board. Next, M.2 storage uses more energy than the eMMc storage, as a result the battery life would be slightly less. Another issue to think about is bus speeds, as the two formats are different. Thank you again for the question.
thanks for your quick response
Great video on emmc, thank you!
hi can i run windows 7 on 32gb emmc?
Yes, but a 64gb would be a better choice as 32gb is the minimum size.
i recently bought a lenovo s130 laptop and it didnt come with the m2 ssd port, but it has the space and kind of the "entrance" for it, so i was wondering if i can sold an adapter, i hope u give me a solution (this is the adapter www.jae.com/en/connectors/series/detail/product/id=68917 )
Thank you for the full explanation of emmc very good video I want to purchase a Rock64 SBC with a emmc socket is this a good purchase and will EMMC get better over time
Thank you for the comment. The ROCK64 4GB single-board computer makes for an interesting build. I believe that eMMC will see improvements because so many devices now rely on them.
When trying to install Linux the emmc is not seen during the install process. Is there any way around that?
Is it seen within the system's BIOS?
@@selmateacher7 yes
Hey can you help me find pdf of all part numbers organized klm klu kmn and so on plz
Do you mean, like this?
www.micron.com/products/managed-nand/emmc/part-catalog
Could I upgrade eMMC of ACER TravelMate Spin B1 TMB118-R such way ? ThanX a lot
Thank you for the question. Normally the eMMC is not an up-gradable part.
Thank you for the answer! It is so sad. I can't update my Windows 10 with this storage!
Thank you for the info.
Could we upgrade the RAM in 2GB to 4GB in emmc laptop?
Thank you for the very good question. On many laptops, as in everyone that I have taken apart in class, the laptops that have an eMMc storage also have non-upgradable RAM. The reason manufacturers use eMMc storage is to lower the cost of the laptop. Having non-upgradable RAM, also lowers their cost. So, no. generally speaking non-upgradable RAM is not an easy upgrade as just installing the correct So-Dimm memory.
how many times can we heat the emmc before it breaks or for it to not work anymore?
It worked the first time for me, but it is very sensitive, so I would say.. once..... Thank you for the question.
Thanks 👍
Thank you for the comment. I always try to be helpful.
old vid... yes i know, but what eMMC would u recommend nowadays?
That depends on which hardware you are sporting. I just bought this 2280 M.2 drive for my desktop PC at newegg,
www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-1tb/p/N82E16820147743?nm_mc=KNC-GoogleKWLess-Search-Exact&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleKWLess-Search-Exact-_-MB-_-Asus-Z370-E-_-PDP-1
I have an Acepc t11 with 64gb eMMc, too slow!, especially when going to full screen or back on youtube.
Slow Chromebook? I always do this to mine and it speeds it back up, like new.
th-cam.com/video/TSjhSC3ILVU/w-d-xo.html
Can I put this card eMMc in mSata slot?
EMMC refers to a chip that's soldered to the motherboard(Embedded Multi Media Card), if it uses MSATA then it's technically not EMMC. Short answer: no
Hey does anyone know if it's possible to clone the eMMC to a SSD? I have a HP Notebook with 32 GB eMMC storage. The storage is full now after 3 yrs and I can't even download the windows 10 upgrades. I know I have a spare SATA connection so I can add a SSD with bigger storage. Only think idk is if there is a way to clone a eMMC to SSD so that the laptop boots up from the SSD and the eMMC becomes secondary storage. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
I have done that using an external drive enclosure and the cloning software found here, www.kingston.com/unitedstates/us/support/technical/acronis-download
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thanks for the quick response! Do u have a preference between crucial and kingston brand? If I have a crucial brand SSD would I just use the crucial Acronis cloning program? Also, I have a SATA port on the motherboard so can I install the SSD internally instead of external?
@@mustafaahsan1999 They are both good IMO. Yes. since you have a SATA ports, that does make it easier in your case.
@@selmateacher7 thank you so much, I'm going to give it a try.
@@mustafaahsan1999 awesome
Thank you
i upgraded my acer aspire es1-331 from 32gb emmc to 64gb emmc i can read and write the emmc also the 64gb is reconized but i m now not able to boot from it i think i have a issu with gpt mbr but the bios reconize it as 64gb internaly on the laptop motherboard i say it should possable
Did you do the recovery App found here:
chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromebook-recovery-utili/jndclpdbaamdhonoechobihbbiimdgai?hl=en
to reinstall the os?
can i install os in hdd (asus e402) ans use emmc as storage
You can, if there is a port to connect the HDD, like M.2 or SATA. What I have seen is that many computer companies try to save as much money as possible by not including those ports.
I was resetting eMMC and my laptop now don't start even don't see charge and not see a bios UEFI
Which laptop model number? It should still charge even without an internal storage, something else must be wrong.
@@selmateacher7 hello, it's cheap irbis tw34 , may be notepad I was changing bios settings may be secure resetting eMMC and after it he is sleeping and even lamp of power don't shine
@@mybox6177 ok. That is a Russian version and I have not worked with that notepad. Have you tried to reset the BIOS ?
@@selmateacher7 hello thank you for answer, I don't know how to do reset bios, I was resetting eMMC in bios and after it he don't power on, even lamp don't light and charging too, I mean it is need to program bios cheap ?
@@mybox6177 On that one unit , I am unsure how to do a reset of the BIOS as well. On some laptops we see a reset bios switch on mainboard, but I am not sure on that tablet.
Very good teaching.
Glad you think so!
This is what most people think about when Albert Einstein is mentioned.
LOL eMMC .......
Can you just use an external HDD on the eMMC laptop?
Yes, I am doing that now. I am using a 256gb USB fit drive.
@@selmateacher7 Great Thanks.
@@selmateacher7
If this new stream wasn't flashing I had thought that all those Microsoft updates would go on an external harddrive. But then there is this sporadic flashing of the screen on this computer, for what reason I don't know.
@@100consciouseternallightho6 Flashing? That is different. Normally, if I see flashing on a display, it is an hardware problem, such as a loose connection.
This helps a ton thank you.
There is a new HP Chromebook with 128 gb eMMC...so I take it this would be a major improvement over 64 gb...
This is useful info. Thanks!
Hello, awesome video. I have a question I have many old phones that I would like to have data recovered with the emmc but do I need an emmc reader? Or without soldering connect the chip from an old phone to a usb and then plug it into the computer or is it more complicated than I think it is, plus I would say I’m new to this. Thank you for your time.
Thank you for the comment. Here is an in depth article about that. Data recovery on phones depends on the phone's condition :
www.lifehack.org/446967/how-to-recover-data-from-a-broken-iphone-or-android-phone
Can you compare with ufs
UFS is the successor to the current eMMC standard for embedded NAND flash memory, and it aims to offer some of the benefits of faster SSD memory in a lower-energy chip. The package contains the NAND flash memory and controller, designed for small, mobile products. UFS offers some high performance benefits of the SATA interface, which is faster yet the UFS uses the flash-optimized low power consumption of eMMC.
selmateacher7 - Daniel Berry thanks for reply sir
But toshiba company says emmc has 2 advantage compared to ufs, *power consumption is low compared to ufs.*and cost is also less, so is it true??
If the application needs lower power consumption, then go with eMMC. If it needs to be faster, go with UFS. The difference in cost really only comes into play if you are dealing with hundreds of units.
selmateacher7 - Daniel Berry thanks sir for the reply
Talking about the speed ,your chart is difficult and confused.
Sorry about that.
Hi Mr. Barry, no words in terms of durability and reliability?
Thank you for the question. I have seen many Chromebooks go through my classroom and I have not seen any issues or problems that have the eMMC storage. I had one older Acer Chromebook equipped with an SSD that went bad. I replaced the SSD and it was up and running again.
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What happened to the port openings in the back of computers to make it easier to replace batteries and hard drives? All those screws are ridiculous. I guess it's all about these corporations making more money. I would think they have enough by now.
@@100consciouseternallightho6 Thank you for the question . computer companies are always finding ways to lower their production costs , one of these ways is to limit upgrade options.
Thanks. Lucky duck, full head of hair! :-) Thanks for the information.
These are more slower then HDD's. Always get SSD
The best are SSD. Yes.
I need at 1TB of storage. Speed is irreverent if the OS takes up most of your storage.
Ext. storage, like SD cards and USB jump drives are great for extra space. That is what I use on my Acer CB515
umm in what world does an ssd with a capacity of 120gb cost 500$?
Not today. I buy 128 GB SSD for around $20 today at Newegg. Thank you for the comment and have a great day.
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@@Scorch428 Yes, it is still $533 at
www.neobits.com/plds_px_ag512m6e_plextor_m6e_px_ag512m6e_512_gb_p7652329.html?atc=gbp&gclid=CjwKCAiAy-_iBRAaEiwAYhSlA2yFCzUStREZLCKPOzNdA8ipXIVGRqQhD5GCuYOtl7S_os-TubsQoxoCTugQAvD_BwE
There are way cheaper options in the m.2 and 2.5" SATA formats.
If you find a notebook with eMMC SSD on it with only 32GB then avoid, windows 10 requires to much memory when forcing it's updates on you that the 32GB will soon be all used up and you will end up with failed update notifications. As far as I'm concerned 120GB of memory is a minimum far any system. Then there is the RAM but don't get me started on that.
Very true. This is why I placed the Chrome OS on that one HP laptop that came with a 32GB eMMC. It was useless with Windows 10 because there was not enough space for any updates or apps. Once I installed the CloudReady OS on that unit , that HP laptop became very useful with offline apps like Google Drive, Docs, Sheets, etc. I made a video on that topic too.
Thank you for the comment.
@STS Tech New Chromebooks now support Linux apps . To turn on Linux support, Go to settings, then Linux (beta). Once it is installed, you have the terminal and can install Linux apps. One of my students just installed Steam on his Chromebook and he is stoked.
Clear
Thank you for the comment.
I don't understand why these manufacturers do this in fucking Windows 10 laptops Features Updates are becoming a issue for these Windows 10 devices that have this storage unit
Thank yoi teacher
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Here you go. Lesson 8... RAM... th-cam.com/video/c1vHQ31w2vk/w-d-xo.html
is this video available without the background music that raises my blood pressure?
Sorry about that. Are you listening with a headset? I noticed that when I listen with headsets, the music seems louder. With regular speakers, the background music stays more in the background.
@@selmateacher7 All videos with background music annoy me. People say I have bat ears. My mom says I have Aspergers
@@shericontrary2535 I play these videos in my classes with large speakers,. I have asked my students and they can barely hear the music and my voice comes across clearly. But thank you for the comments.
@@selmateacher7 Ya, I have a variety of ear plugs.
You could have gone more in-depth about a big downside of it, though, like lower longevity compared to SSDs and HDDs, and due how to it is soldered, there's the risk of your laptop that has eMMC only storage dying and becoming quite useless in less time than ones that allow you to put SATA HDD/SSD or M.2 SATA/NVMe SSDs in them. Also given how the chromebook/laptop like devices with it tend to be in the very budget tier of products, chances are the people who have them don't have the equipment and know-how to put another eMMC module in there to fix the issue.
Thank you for the comment. Yes I have those details on other videos on my A+ computer playlist. Also, I have a newer video on upgrading the Chromebook's storage without risking it. It is found here: th-cam.com/video/FRug8x8KQrU/w-d-xo.html
This was dated info when it was posted. though still has the core info, there are several misleading bits of information.
Thank you for the info. I have a newer video on this topic.
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Sometimes more info is needed.
Why are you a "Fenske4U"
Interesting comment. I had to look up "Fenske4U" I am not afraid of the future. ...And the photo in the back is an autographed photo from the actor John Banner of Hogan's Heroes.
@@selmateacher7 I meant the TH-cam channel of Fenske4U
@@jonipuchta4450 Never saw him before. I am SelmaTeacher7- Daniel Berry... Been doing this act since before TH-cam was bought by Google. Maybe Fenski4u is a SelmaTeacher7. LOL.
@@selmateacher7 Okay, I'm from Germany and Fenske4U is also from Germany
@@jonipuchta4450 So you are a Fenske4U, cool.
Thank you
You're welcome