संवाद # 113: Haryana history, how 1857 war, British & Punjabi rule shaped it | Col. Yogander Singh
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- Colonel (retd.) Yogander Singh is a retired Indian Army officer and military historian, with special focus on Haryana. He has written several books, most prominent among them being 'Hal Wa Samshir: Politico-Military History of Haryana'. (www.amazon.in/HAL-SHAMSHIR-Co..., Future Ready Indian Army and 'Effective Deterrence: Thoughts on India's Security Policy and Structures in the Twenty-first Century' (www.amazon.in/Effective-Deter....
0:00 Intro
0:45 What is identity
1:50 Who is a Haryanvi
5:08 Haryana outside modern Haryana
8:50 Why Britishers merged Haryana with Punjab
9:18 Haryana is more culturally similar to Ganga Doab than Punjab
11:04 How Malwa converted to Sikhism
14:50 Why Haryana’s villages are unique
19:06 Haryana’s villages & origins of democratic nature
23:30 When people used to change their castes
24:54 Why Rajputs, Jats, Gujjars have similar surnames in Haryana region
29:50 1857 war: Wahabis Vs Sikhs Vs Arya Samajis
34:42 Haryana’s role in 1857 war
38:30 History of Haryana’s cities - depopulation & repopulation
45:46 Strong collective memory of Haryanvis
49:08 Was British rule comparatively better for Haryana region?
58:30 Biggest setback to farmers due to British rule
1:03:55 Modern justice system Vs Panchayati system
1:06:20 Origin of Khap Panchayats
1:08:39 Why Khaps lost relevance
1:13:00 Why Same gotra marriages are terrible
1:14:30 Origin of wearing Kurta Payjamas in Haryana
1:17:00 How partition made Haryanvi music poorer
1:18:49 Haryanvi songs that challenge male vanity
1:21:25 Why Indians stopped donning headgear
1:23:11 Punjabi imperialism: 1947 to 1966
1:26:16 Partition proved to be a boon for Punjabis in long term
1:28:57 Haryana govt divorced from Haryanvi identity
1:32:17 Haryanvis need to write their own history
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मैं एक हरियाणवी मारवाड़ी हूँ । मेरे दादाजी के पिता हरियाणा से मध्यप्रद्श आ गये थे।। वैसेतो हम बंसल है पर हम बोंदिया लिखते है । जो की हमारा पैतृक गाँव है । हम आज भी बच्चों का मुंडन कराने यही जाते है । बोंद में हमारी हवेली थी जो की कालूराम की हवेली के नाम से जानी जाती थी । हमारे घर में सभी पूजा पाठ पद्धति सभी उन्हीं स्वरूपों में पालन की जाती है । ग्रामीण हरियाना घूमने का बहुत मन करता है । कभी जीवन में मौक़ा लगेगा तो ज़रूर जाऊँगा। बेरी वाली माता के मंदिर जाना होता है । जय माता दी ।
To aa jao bhai ghumne .
Kya baat 👍👍
Bilkul Bhai, jarur ghumne aao.
Haryana me marwadi community bhi h??
जय श्री राम 🌹💐🌹🙏🙏
Hamare bachpan main dilli main hamare pados ki jaat dadi nani shirt pahnati thi to ham unhe unki dress ke hisaab se pahchan te the aaj pata chala kitna samman juda hai us kameez main❤
इस पूरे संवाद मैं जब बात west up ( गंगा दोआब ) की बात आती है तो वक्ता बात को गोल कर जाते है
जबकि शुरुआत मैं इन्होंने कल्चरल रूट्स सेम बताए थे
Opposite हिस्ट्री जानबूझ कर सुना रहे है... Arya समाज एक ब्रिटिश प्रोडक्ट है, सारे झगड़े की जड ही Arya समाज़ है,
Arya समाज़ ने जब गुरू ग्रंथ साहिब जी के अंग फाड़े है पुरी 3 दिन की मीटिंग्स के दौरान ,अमृतसर में......
उसके बाद सिंह सभा बनी थीं,
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क्या बकवास कर रहा है हिन्दू देवों की असली विरोध, निन्दा तो Arya समाज करता है,..
सिखी तो हिंदू धर्म को protection देती हैं
कोई रीड तो करो सिख ग्रंथों को,
कीर्तन ही सुन लो, उनमें भी सिखी में हिन्दू देवों की protection की गयीं,
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पर Arya समाज तो इन हिन्दू देवो को गालियां देता है
और
यह आदमी सफेद बाल हो गए फिर भी झूठ बोल रहा हैं.
Good work, appreciated 💯
I was searching for such deeper contents in history for haryana.
Exactly , he is just trying to spread JATuu narrative .
As if everything was Kisan oriented in Haryana .
Haryana clearly had states and jagirs under British rules as well.
Pataudi Jhajjar , Ballabgarh , Jind , Kalsi , Thanesar , Raipur Rani , Ramgarh to name a few.
Then there were British zaildars , chaudharies and Numberdars …
Even if you can just go and research authentic gazetteers , Major towns or villages in Haryana belonged either to the protecting / Ruling seat jatts Jats aheers Ranghars and Rajputs ..
Culturally Haryana is also very diverse . It assimilates with culture of bordering state .
He also tried to describe Haryana based on continuous JaT inhabited belt which stretches along from Bikaner to western UP. Which is also wrong .
Cultural difference amongst various castes and these region was enough to ascertain different identity.
Beharhaal .. he has his own point of view . I respect his research !
They’re seeking acceptance in larger masses, anyone intelligent enough can see that they’re working collaboratively for a specific agenda. (Not a place to discuss this briefly) We should act soon
He just crying crying and playing victim card
Not describing a single sin of his community
@@KrAbhaypratap1 absolutely right banna he just totally vanished the Rajput phase of haryana when chouhan used to rule it from delhi hisar sirsa amabala etc
Han ye sahi kaha aapne
Ho sakta hai col saab Jat ho , isliye thoda bias aa gaya
Rajputon ka yaha kuch nhi tah na h@@khushalsingh58
पंजाबी खत्री हरियाणा आला
बचपन से हरियाणवी बोली है
उल्टा घर पर सब पंजाबी बोलते है
पर कोई अगर हरियाणवी मे बोले तो हम हरियाणवी मे बोलते है
पर एक बात कहू याड़े जाट भाईया ने घणा cooperate किया नही तो अचानक से जब इतने लोग बसते है तो जो local होते है उनमे तनाव होता पर हरियाणा ❤❤
३६ बिरादरी भाईचारा है।
जय सिया राम
👍👍👍
मेजोरिटी यही बात नही समझती , नही तो यहां जाटों के नाश की कामना ही की जाती है और बहिष्कार की सपथ ली जाती है।
Ye bat ab k log nhi smjte bhai ve jato apne dusman smjte hh haryana me kbi b punjabi or haryanviyo ki ldai nhi hua, pakistan punjab me vha k local or yha se gye logo me hmesa ldai or tanav rhta hh,
@@vikashrathee5412 सही बात भाई
@@vikashrathee5412fir jaat andolan mein jo kara vo kya tha
सर जी नमस्कार बहुत अच्छा लगा आप हरियाणा के बारे में इतनी जानकारी दे रहे हो लेकिन आप को बता दूं कि चौहान और तोमर सरनेम (गोत) राजपूत थे लेकिन पृथ्वीराज चौहान के मरने के बाद बिखर गए और जिसे जहां शरण मिली चलें गए और आप ने देखा होगा कि चौहान सरनेम राजपूत मुसलमान जाट और वाल्मीकि जाती में मिलेंगी क्यों कि जो लड़े वह शहीद हो गए और जो झुके वह मुसलमान हो गए और जो ना झुके ना भागें उन राजपूतो की अकड़ तोड़ी सर पर टट्टी तक उठाईं लेकिन इस्लाम धर्म कबूल नहीं किया यह वही असली राजपूत है जिसे हरियाणा में बाल्मीकि और पंजाब में मज़हबी सिक्ख कहते हैं सर जी और यह सच है
धन्यवाद 🙏🙏
Feeling good while Continuously watching this episode. Well featured and discussed episode.
I am jat sikh Toor, Toor r descended of Tomar or Tawar who converted to sikhism. Our ancestor village in Moga punjab is called Khosa Pando previously called Khosa pandav so we had hindu links still our head of family has last rites in haridwar while other family member last rites performed in Kiratpur sahib, a traditional place of sikhs
It's sikhi not sikhisum
Bhai Rajpoot hi sikh hai mostly
Brar Bhati Rajput hai,
Sabse bada magic ye hai ki
Sikhi original sanatan hai
Hindu Dharm original sanatan nhi hai
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Krishna aur Ram ke hi vansaj hai sare rajput
Aur unse aage jat sikh huye vo rajput hi thy
All jat sikhs are descendants from 36 royal clans of rajputs
@@Onhuntt There is nothing like Royal clan. For example: Bhati r Rajput as well as shudra/ majhabi Sikh. Tomar r Rajput Jats as well as Gujjar. Like Faridkot and patiala kings provided affidavit in courts that they r Bhati rajputs, many also claim they jats.
It's all imagined reality, social and mental construct about caste clans surnames. There r lot of exceptions
@@gigachad_6862 Bro clan Royal hi a bhatii james tod ale royal clans ch aunde ne sare rajputan de naale jehde clan di tu gal krda gujjara ate jats aali oh bai gujjar daasi de putt ne jihna nu gaut tan peo da milya but jaat maa di mili. Es da mtlb eh ni bhatti shudar bngeya. Same like tomar or every clan
Thoroughly enjoyed this… nice comprehensive explanation of things across time by the Guest
The only take away which I liked is … “Haryana was never Punjab”
We always had our separate cultural identity. ❤ Haryana
Bullshit. You always fought WITH the British. It was Mahasaptsindhu back then. Not even one person gave his life from this area in the freedom struggle.
that's right ! just like Punjab was never India. It always had its own separate nationalism and identity. ❤Punjab
@@prab320 You may mean for only Sikhs. But Punjab has more than just Sikhs if you actually know the history of MahaPunjab era and how congress traitor party was not able to win there without scams just like what's happening in Haryana. Have you ever heard of autonomy coming at either national or state level without need or sacrifices for that matter ? I guess not. Never happened elsewhere. It started in 1947 and the politicians used the same formula later till late 60s by creating Haryana, Himachal and Chandigarh. BTW where were the people of today's Haryana in the freedom struggle ? Do you have any insight ? Let me enlighten you. They were killing the innocent freedom fighters (mostly the Jaat regiment traitors which was formed in 1777 I believe by the British rats). And no one else opened the cartridges or kartoos made by cow fat (intentionally done by the British) other than the lovely ancestors of the present era Haryana folks. Those who know history trolled you even then (40s to 60s). That was also one reason. Now you folks have neither any conscience nor character. You are only after the material success, government job and money from any source as your home environments are miserable. I have met with the mothers and fathers of Haryana back in the early 1980s. I understood your viewpoint even as a little boy. But so called Haryana holds the senti Mahabharat lands and we have hope in them. The only issue with Haryana is human corruption. Everything else is like Punjab (flora, fauna and even the challenges pertaining to education and growth). Haryana people are not shameless. They are just staryed due to poor parenting, sociale and leadership.
Lol There is difference between 'discovery' and 'invention'. This Haryanvi identity is invention.
@@prab320Lahore was Part of Punjab so bring Lahore
It's strange....he discussed whole of 1857 but he has not even mentioned Rao Tula Ram...who was prominent leader of 1857...
More Haryana content ❤
No Jaat 😂
I find so many answers of my querries thanks col sir.
Very honest opinion.
Very very Informstive. Well done col Saheb
Raids by sikhs and Marathas during 1700s were basically targeted on muslim nawabs zamindars or on Rajput clans that sided with Mughals against punjab or central India.
Sikhs never destroyed or try to convert hindus. Cow worship was common still it is common practice in sikhs to feed stray cows. Sikhs had greatly contributed to hindu religious places inside the area they controlled. Even gold was donated by sikhs to Kashi vishawanath and many central indian temples
Opposite history Jaam bhooj kar suna rhe hai...
Arya Samaj ek British product hai, sari jhgde ki jadd hi Arya Samaj hai,
Arya Samaj jab sikh GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI ke ang faadte hai puri 3 din ki meetings ke doran
Uske baad sing saba bni thi,
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Kya bakwas kr rha hai Hindu devo ki asli virodh ninda to Arya Samaj karta hai
Sikhi to Hindu Dharm ko protection deta hai
Koi read to kro Sikh GRANTH,
Kirtan hi sun loo, unme bhi sikhi me Hindu devo ki protection ki gyi,
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Par Arya Samaj to inko galiya deta hai
Aur
Ye aadmi safed baal ho gye fir bhi jhut bol raha hai.
Agreed to this talk as we heard many of these same stories from our grandparents 🙏🏼
Comprehensive presentation of Haryana history.
Great historical anecdotes. Dhanyavadh sharing the information.
This is marvelous work
Every discussion on haryana by jats is reduced to kisan jat jamidar khap as if no one else exists...to the extent that those discussing are questioning private property and defending transfer of property only among "agricultural castes".
Please expand the scope your podcasts on haryana Arihant sahab. Include harynavi brhamins, dalits, banias, khatis, panchals etc as well.
Well he clearly mentions Artisans like Panchal and banias were better off than agricultural castes because they weren't involved in defending the village, khatiks and Dalits were involved in their respective traditional works, and as far as I know, Brahmins largely fall under the agricultural caste as well like Tyagis etc.
Thats the problem with haryana historians and very cunning if they are jaats
Totally agree
Less than 10% of the population lived in cities before 1947. Other than that we can also discuss Your JatPhobia .
Agriculture land allways must used for agriculture okk ! Not for looters Baniya traders ( allways try to make rent) and give those Land to farmers on rent for farming 😢, that's why agriculture Land for only agriculturerst Farmer's
Thank you very much for this engaging, information talk ! Never knew anything about history of Haryana. Should be taught in schools. Atleast one chapter.
शिक्षा का अभाव था हरियाणा पंजाब में, गुरू नानक के पंथ प्रचार में हिन्दू का बड़ा बेटा केशधारी बना दिया जाता था, (पंजप्यारे भी हिन्दू ही थे। शिक्षा के अभाव में, और पंथ के प्रति रुझान से ही गुरमुख लिपि अस्तित्व में आई। कालान्तर सिख पन्थ धर्म में बदल दिया गया। पंजाब हरियाणा में शिक्षा का दूसरा प्रसार भी धर्म के रास्ते आर्यसमाज लायी। शिक्षा के अभाव में पन्डित लख्मीचन्द ने ही समाजिक-चेतना व ज्ञान रागनियों व संगीत के माध्यम से जगाया और अनपढ़ों में भी रुचिकर बनाकर जिन्दा रखा। पार्टीशन के बाद आये हिन्दूओं की स्वचछता, खानपान, रहन-सहन को देखकर हरियाणा में भी सुधार कर गया, शिक्षा के प्रति जागरूकता भी तभी बढ़ी। हरियाणा में पढ़ाई लिखाई में इन पंजाबी लोगो का योगदान अभूतपूर्व था। 1966-68 तक हर अध्यापक या तो पंजाबी होता था या आर्यसमाजी। बीमारियों से उबरने व स्वास्थ्य और स्वच्छता में, हरियाणा के अस्तित्व में आने तक अस्पतालों मे सभी नर्सिग लड़कियाँ पंजाबी ही होती थी। हरियाणवी समाज को ऊपर उठाने में इनका योगदान भुलाया नही जा सकता।
Thank you vaad bhut jyada requirement the i hope age bhe continue rhe ga
There used to be Vedic schools before Mughals period. Britishers opened schools and colleges only for their Anglo Indian children and also to produce cheap clerical class
LoL
Vedic school s supported only shatriye and brahman smaj no use yes knowledge is there but there was no science and barriers were there.
@@jyotishyamlabham288 Yes there was alot of science in English schools even though modern science discoveries happened in 18th century onwards. Greeks, Romans, Indians gave the foundation of modern science. We already had a functioning branch of medicine called Ayurveda, India gave zero, India gave infinity, and Britishers gave us maths, see the temples in South and that level of precision is not even possible without mathematics.
@@jyotishyamlabham288 And yap the vaidyas and vishwakarmas do not belong to brahmin and kshatriy varna , so vedic schools were available for vaishyas.
@@daksh6388very nice. Bharat gave all the digits, not just 0. 1-9 also came from Bharat, and the Arabs took it and claimed it as their own. Definitely worth reading about. All numbers came from us
कर्नल साहब सही कहण लागरे हैं हमारी आईडैंडिटी हरियाणवी है जात का अड़ंगा तो 1947 कै बाद आया है।
Quite Informative! Keep it up!👍👍👍
Very informative. Thanks.
Very good narration. Col sb has very clearly explained the culture of Haryana. I enjoyed it immensely. Because my roots are in Haryana. I am Rangarh and migrated from the village adjacent to the railway station named Jatosna. This village was founded by my great great grandfather named Baz khan. My elders considered the Afghan as their enemy and sided with Marhatta. I am chohan and my mother and wife are panwar. We followed the Hindu as well as Rajpute traditions.
Ranghara were good to most Hindus except shudra jhaant
@@GanuSing-yv8extumhari ma ki jhaant ki bat kar rahe ho
I am from uttarakhand. But liked the discussion very much from history point of view being a history lover. Col saab is having really good knowledge.Thanks for discussion.
The classic example is related to the canal which was created from Hardwar by Col Kautley by convincing the religious orthodoxy that the new canal will bring prosperity in the western UP.
Achchi jankariya di he corneal sahab ne bhi dhanywad
Congratulations for such a wonderful talk.
निरपेक्ष विश्लेषक सुन्दर विवेचना।
Nirpeksh ?? Lol 😂
मेरे पुरखे हरियाणा के अंबाला के मलना से यूपी के सहारनपुर आ गए अप्रैक्स 500 साल हो गया नौवी पीढी चल रहीं हैं लेकिन आज भी भावनात्मक रूप से हरियाणा से जुड़े हैं,, s s चौहान
Col Sahab please explain about the visit of secretary of state after revolution. What was his recommematiom
जाट,गुज्जर और राजपूत (हिन्दु,मुस्लिम,सिख) के पूर्वज एक ही थे। बाद मेें पेशे के आधार पर सिपाही या राज करने वाले राजपूत कहलाने लगे, कृषक जाट तथा पशुपालक गुज्जर कहलाने लगे। धीर-धीर खेती और पशुपालन तीनों करने लगे। तीनों का बेसिक एक ही है। इसमें यादव और पटेल भी जोड़े जा सकते हैं।
Aisa gyan kahan se laata hai? Genetically jato ka koi link nahin rajputo or gurjaro se jats steppe logo k vansaj hai, gurjar ek ivc tribe hai. Rajput ek class thi isiliye mixed caste hai. Or inme jyada dna. Aasi hai. Jats ki kuch clan jo power mein thi vo rajput jaroor bolne lagi thi khud ko. Lekin vo ab mix ho chuke rajputon mein. saare jo aaj ke rajput hain vo jato se nahin hai.
@@laughloud4435Jat koi steppe se nahin hain. Steppes ek ghaas ka maidan hai. Wahan koi nahin rehta. Woh land sirf bakri charane ke liye accha hai.
Jat ka matalab hota hai kisan. Jat community Sindh se migrate hokar North aayi hai. Aur yeh bhi poore ke poore yahin ke hain.
Zabardasti apne ko gora bol raha hai. Chaatna hi hai toh kutta ban ja. Abhi chale gaye angrez, lekin chaatna nahin chhoda.
Bhaiyo
Sabka dna 90% same hai , thode bht differences hain
Kyu lad rahe ho
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The Guest in this video have half baked information. Singh Sabha Movement was basically against Christian Missionaries conversion drive. Mirja Ghulam of Ahmadiya Muslims also started his movement against Muslims converting to Christianity during same period.
Half baked knowledge about whole india another mera state sabse badiya types
Full baked story
@@jethu2945 agree ,the guest is biased ...his talking 👎
@@jethu2945pretty much Haryanvi jaatiwadi channel. It's focused on that.
Yea in favor of converting ethnic Punjabi Hindus whom have been the original inhabitants of Punjab since Rigvedic times- ie. long before Sikhi and Jatts migrating from Rajasthan and Gujarat. I don't blame Haryanvi's and Himachali's for wanting to partition from Punjab and working towards that. The Sikhs have completely ruined the state of Punjab, are extremely Hindubhobic, casteist towards the SC that converted to Sikhi, and then harp on international forums how Hindus are destroying everything when they're the ones who rule the state not us lol. The ultimate personification of namak haram.
Col saheb is Minded, visionary and think tank, Such persons are the asset of Nation.
👍👍बैहतरीन सर..😊
Col.Yogendra Singh has deep understanding of the history and culture of Haryana . He has given a detailed overview of the various nuances of development in the region.I thank him for the information.
Opposite हिस्ट्री जानबूझ कर सुना रहे है... Arya समाज एक ब्रिटिश प्रोडक्ट है, सारे झगड़े की जड ही Arya समाज़ है,
Arya समाज़ ने जब गुरू ग्रंथ साहिब जी के अंग फाड़े है पुरी 3 दिन की मीटिंग्स के दौरान ,अमृतसर में......
उसके बाद सिंह सभा बनी थीं,
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क्या बकवास कर रहा है हिन्दू देवों की असली विरोध, निन्दा तो Arya समाज करता है,..
सिखी तो हिंदू धर्म को protection देती हैं
कोई रीड तो करो सिख ग्रंथों को,
कीर्तन ही सुन लो, उनमें भी सिखी में हिन्दू देवों की protection की गयीं,
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पर Arya समाज तो इन हिन्दू देवो को गालियां देता है
और
यह आदमी सफेद बाल हो गए फिर भी झूठ बोल रहा हैं.
To me history is alwas facinating I hate those making comments with predetermind biased notions and having no knowledge of history
That's very unique Arihant bhai
Great🎉
हरियाँवी भाषा की बात करते हैं अंग्रेजी में
वाह रे
यही तो इनका दोगला पन हैं 😜
Bhai Bura naa maan,
Yo Fauji Afsar hai ….Angrezo ki legacy carry kar rahaa hai
A dream episode. ❤ Thanks Arihant Bhai for doing this. 👍
Apka wala sabse best tha ...wo apne OO aur AA wala difference bataya ...mai sala sari jindgi samajh nahi pata tha ki ham Kanod wale O aur rohtak wale A kyu bolte hai 😅
Aap se bahot hopes hai ap caste aur regional lines se upar uthkar haryana ki bat krte ho ..
Ek bahot bada vacuum hai jo ap jaise logo ne fill karna hai .
@@loveislove9211 😂😂🙏🙏
Very fascinating genesis of history of punjab,Haryana,U.P around Delhi.Around 200 KM area of Delhi there was no King or Queen ie all people were equal & protected by the landowners of the villages.All had similar cultural history.Many districts of Haryana were integral part of Delhi such as Sonepat,Rohtak,Gurgaon etc etc.
श्रीमान जी क्या आप बता सकते हो कि पंजाब और हरियाणा शब्द कब से प्रयोग में आए।
मेरी सूचना के आधार पर यह दोनो शब्द अंग्रेजों कि देन है
Mene jo suna h jo Anna aj ka haryana h yha es area m bhut bada jungle kho ya ban Hota tha jese hariyalहरियल namaste se jana Jatan tha . Punjab k bare m to aap jante hi h panch aab मतलब Jahangir panch type ka Pani ho thank u😊
पंजाब शब्द बाहरी तुर्क आक्रमणकारियों की देन है।
फ़ारसी भाषा में आब मतलब पानी होता है इसकिये पंजाब शब्द फ़ारसी उपज है
Sir very nice 🎉
बहुत ही महत्वपूर्ण जानकारी, धन्य वाद।
Welfare state (if it indeed can be called so) in Haryana may have been a British introduction but it is not so in other parts of India. Throughout history there have been some or other regimes in India who have shown responsibility towards improving the lot of the people. Our scriptures bear eminent testimony to this. Be it Sri Rama's injunctions to Bharat when they met at Chitrakut on the responsibility of a ruler or that of Bhishma to Yudhishthira in Shanti Parva or Yudhistira himself when Narada visited him in Indraprastha or in Artha Shastra of Kautilya till through Cholas to Chatrapati Shivaji to as late as Peshwa times we have have had socially responsible governance. Marathas may have marauded and looted in other parts of India but in their core region of Maharashtra they established good governance after centuries of misgovernance under Bahmani Sultanates.
Haryana ka prachin naam
Haryana did NOT EXIST before 1966!! it is and was ALWAYS PUNJAB!!
@@riverocean4380 I don't agree that it was anyhow part of Punjab, Haryanvi culture is similar to West UP alot, but different from Punjab, Haryanvi as a language is too much similar to khari boli dialect of hindi spoken in UP.
I don't agree that haryana had any separate historical identity but it was not Punjab, I would have been close to UP.
@@riverocean4380Konsi duniya me jee rahe ho tum log.
ऐसा लगता है कि हरियाणा के सिरसा से ही लोग प्रयागराज के नज़दीक सिरसा बसा और वहां से बिहार के वैशाली जिले अवस्थित हमारा सरसंई गढ़ गांव बसा जो जढ़ुआ परगणे में है जिसकी जमींदारी हमारे पूर्वजों के पास थी ।
Tu pakka Bhumihar hoga tumhara pura itihas khud ko non bihari batane mein nikal jata hai jabki ho tum pure bihari hi 😂 Kabhi chitpavan kabhi mohyal
@@GanuSing-yv8ex जी, आप ने ठीक समझा , प्रांतीयता subnationalism है । सभी प्राणी गण migrate करते रहते हैं । संथाल भी माइग्रेंट हैं और कुर्मी भी कुर्मांचल यानि कुमायूं से । सादर आभार!
बहुत ही बढ़िया
एक बात देखो किसान आन्दोलन के बाद पंजाबी जट और दूसरे जाट समाज को अलग पेश किया जा रहा, एक हज़ार साल पहले हमारे पुरखे दिल्ली से सतलुज के किनारे बसे मोगा ज़िले में, असल बात यह है की सिक्ख धर्म अपनाने के साथ जो भाषा गुरू साहिब ने अपनाई वो पंजाबी थी जो मूल रूप से सीख ली
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12:46 ये दोनो सरकारी बंदे हैं।
My Ancestors were from Narnaul Haryana they shifted to MHOW near Indore MP during 1857 war
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🙏🙏 from Narnaul
बहुत-बहुत धन्यावाद ।
much awaited podcast. amazing
I am from lalru bhatti rajput which was on border of haryana & under in punjab but our culture is totally similar to the haryanvi culture
Before 1947 our total area is in ambala district
Lalru bus massacre
Lalru is puadh
Hi Arihant, really appreciate your intellectual bent of mind. Your interest to delve deep and not be satisfied with superficial interpretations or explanations. One is knowing about an event but more important is to objectively understand the reasons behind it. And lastly your phenomenal efforts to understand the history of Haryana bringing together the perspectives of so many learned scholars. Every state in India should have such people who want to understand more in-depth history of their land, culture, religion. Best wishes
We havs to decided fkr this collective democracy.😊
Short it..peaples know these.
Lt.genaral.v.k.gupta use of indian army..by fakers.😊
Brilliant
अरिहंत भाई कृपया biased लोगो को मत बुलाए
१ मिनट लगेगा Resources के साथ इनकी स्कूल नही था या गुरुकुल नही था
उल्टा तब लोग ज्यादा बुद्धिमान थे गुरुकुल की वजह से;नव गृह कि दूरी जो आज ये स्कूल मे पढ़ते है वो आज से सहस्त्र वर्षों पूर्व तो गुरुकुल मे पढ़ा रहे है
२ मिनट मे तर्को से सारी इनकी बात कट जाएंगे।कृप्या Biasness को दूर करो
He himself is very much biased
Good knowledge but more focused on south and central Haryana, of as history and culture of old Ambala district (present day including Ambala, Panchkula, Chandigarh, Mohali, Ropar, Yamuna nagar, kurukshetra, Karnal etc) (including Sikh rajas) is missing in present day history.
South haryana?? Bhai inke muh se ek baar Rewari riyasat ka naam ni Nikla. 1857 revolt ki baat karli ek baat Rao Tula Ram ka naam ni aya. Inko TBH haryana ki zayada knowledge hai hi nhai.
He was right on problem faced by comman Haryanvi after panipat war with Abdali, Change in rulers, instability, high taxes, high land revenue and natural reasons, very large section of Haryanvi suffered a lot and many of them to leave in 1783. when we think of history knowledge, it should not be only limited to fight against British rule, Muslim invaders, Marathas rule, Rajput rule, Jat rule, Sikh rule, only. History should include all aspects of rulers, commons, social life, local facts, language, culture, traditions etc,
@@PawanRao007Rao Tula Ram Jat nhi the , isiliye nam nhi liya
These types of scholars are planted by Rss ,,his sole purpose is to divide kisan ekta of punjab and haryana which was the only problem of bjp during kisan andolan , every region has some distinct features in punjab also every region is different.
@@JeetuKumarYadav-ow8jqAhirwal Mahendragarh, Rewari, gurgaon,south Jhajhar,badra Loharu, pilani bahror kotputli bansur khairthal Tak Ahirwal ka alag ithihas hai
Well narrated Col Yogender Singh, the history of Haryana ! Eye opener revealations about history and culture of state. Proud of you sir 🕉️💟🕉️
Sir can you provide details about jatu of Siwani who migrated to Rajasthan shekhawati belt before 1857
Sir goter or surname are also same in all the caste as tawar, chowhan,bhatthi, Rathi and dahiya as 90percent surname of jat and chamar are same.
I think west up and haryana should be merged
On the basis of common cultural
Very information
At 27:30 .. He is saying log suit karne k liye history modify kar lete hai...
At 32:44 ... He himeself modifying history...That arya samaj hindu response tha against Singh Sabha and muslims...
But the fact and history is That:: Singh Sabha Movement ek response tha.... In reaction to the proselytising activities of Christians, Hindu reform movements (Brahmo Samajis, Arya Samaj) and Muslims (Aligarh movement and Ahmadiyah).
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singh_Sabha_Movement
52:00 onwards is not accurate at all. It is a known fact that mandirs and gurukuls were an essential part of imparting education in India for people of all classes and castes, from quite early on, Britishers infact dismantled it to cripple our society.
53:48 Bilkul sir, usse pehle akaal padte hi nahi the, India ek bohot hi resource rich country hai, it has been so for centuries, yaha akaal ko imagine karna bhi bewakoofi hogi. Britishers brought famine to India, because of their policies that focused on sowing opium rather than food crops for profit.
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आ इन्हे अँग्रेज़ा की किताबी पढ़ ली;इब्ब इसने बेरा ही नही है वे झूठ है सब
Macaulay गुलाम बनाना चाहता था देश को;इन्हे वो भी ना बेरा होगा
One historian on your podcast said jats used to live in sindh area until 11th century only after that they came in present india north west
That is true. It has been mentioned in various records from mediaeval times.
@@asmirann3636this is not true , this fact has been refused by genetic studies , if this was the case jats would have been more close to Iranian haplogroup like Sindhis but this hasn’t be the case , these are bogus claims , Jats inhabit this land as long as other people ( unless you believe in Aryan invasion theory )
Rohillas also used to stay in area of present day afghanistan till invasion of Ghazni.
Kabul and Zabul Shahis were all hindus and Buddhist kingdoms
@@rupinattri4918 Sindh is also a part of Indian historical lands. So jat migration from Sindh to the present lands is an internal migration. It happens all the time. Eg. Where did the people of Harappa or Mohenjodaro go ?? They just shifted to other places.
Jats are indigenous. They are a farming community. They got patronage and strong sense of identity during the British period because they sided with the British in 1857. In many places even before the British, there were some Jat Rajahs. Sikhs under Maharaja Ranjit Singh also had many Jatt Sikhs who were powerful.
@@thesidd19 There are many people in North India with Rohila surname. These people are not muslims though.
So it is true that many people migrated to North from north west after Ghazni took over. People who stayed in Afghanistan were forcefully converted.
For a very long time, Afghanistan was referred to as Rohilkhand. Even till now some Afghans refer themselves as Rohila Pathan/Pashtun. Many of these muslim pathans migrated during the time of Sultanate and Mughals to western UP. That region also ended up being called Rohilkhand. These muslim Rohillas sided with Ahmed Shah Durrani during the third battle of Panipat. Later on Marathas punished them and made them pay for it. After which these muslim Rohillas/Pathans became irrelevant in Mughal politics.
मजा आया धन्यवाद ।
Time and technology change everything with power structural .evolution of cultural with king power centric approach towards security
Very good and almost correct and impartial review of history of Haryana.
Please make a similar theme video about Uttar Pradesh. It will be interesting.
uttar pradesh ki history mein kahan tak jaaya jayega.. recorded history is incapable of doing justice with it. Kashi (oldest inhabitable city in the world) UP mein hi hai
@@RiteshSharma-xrs333 yap and Ayodhya, mathura, vrindavan too. And we find evidence from archeology which is impossible as these cities are densely populated. And there is no one identity in uttar pradesh to talk about. UP has multiple cultural, linguistic , historical identities. Fortunately groups in UP don't have superiority complex.
UP to khud me ek desh hai😅
Surprise no reference to Narnaul war of 1857 , which is Shahid Divas in Haryana? Is it due to half baked knowlage or biasness?
कितने दुर्भाग्य की बात है कि हम लोग हजारो साल पहले हुए राम रावण और महाभारत युद्ध और उनके पात्रो को तो अच्छे से जानते है मगर मात्र छह सौ, सात सौ वर्ष की गुलामी में हमारी प्राचीन वर्ण वयव्स्था को षढ़यंत्र के तहत अलग अलग जातियो , उपजातियों के बटवारे में न सिरफ अपना इतिहास बल्की अपनी सही पहचान तक भूल गये**🤔🤔❓
Purohit Brahmano ki bakchodi sunna band kar do sirji.. Sara itihaas clear hai
aur leke aao inke sath podcast ,
Agrarian military identity was not restricted to the region now named Haryana, Many eminent writers have given the same identity to the people residing b/w Sutlej & Beas and also B/w beas and Raavi. This is very confusing. This along with many others factors point to the fact that we are talking about Subculture...
Jis Kurte ko Punjabi aur Haryanvi Bengali Kurta bolte hen, Bengali is ko Punjabi kurta bolte hen.
It’s looks like in Haryana kabila system(Clan) was in place
raja har rai chauhan ne haryana basaya tha... yha parmar, tanwar or rana rajput the jinhone isse cultural identity di..jai haryana jai bharat
Myth
@@kartoosjat facts ❤️
@@OfficialMoviePointStudio far
Rajput is not a caste ...
Any idea about population of this region means today's Haryana in 1783-84.
He is completely wrong when he says that there are very less similarities between haryana and punjab. Actually there are a lot of similarities be it dress we wear, food we eat, or our local proverbs, people to people contacts, even a lot of surnames are common such as Sandhu, Sidhu, Dhillon, Mann. I don’t understand why are they deliberately trying to create a difference with punjab. We are living side by side and have same roots.
Education ke mamle mein satisfied nqhin hoon.delhi ke jantar mqntqr jo banaya hai woh to rajput kaal mein hi bane hain
West up is also a part of Haryana ✅
Technology changing efficiency of productivity .and building wealth management system towards efficiency
Respected Col Sahab, I agree many of your point. Please high light in which area of Haryana Sikh looted. Most of Haryana villages are 800-900 year old. Who helf to settle down haryanavi. Comments on it
Just wondering how much "Loyalty Bonus" the Purbias, Marathas, and Hindus South of Satluj got when they fought against Sikhs in Anglo Sikh wars. Lol
Punjab regiment 1761 ki hai dekh le kab se tum angrejo k liye lad rahe the or amritsar Treaty 1809 me angrejo k aage khud ranjit surrender tha, rahi baat anglo sikh war ki, usme tumhe dograo ne or tej singh lal singh ne isiliye mara kyonki, tumne mahan singh mirpuri or uske bete chhatra singh ko dhokhe se mara tha, tum kal k aaye log uchla kam kara karo kuch na ho thaam
1805 me patiala k maharaja ne sikh proper karwa diye the lagbhag Punjab regiment me, or rahi baat maratho ki unme itna dam tha ki vo tamil se lekar peshawar tak pahuche tum toh bas Punjab k bahar bhi aukat nahi rakh paye
@@Raghu_Gaur_sharma अबे चुतिऐ जा पहले अमृतसर ट्रीटी को पड़ के आ l पटियाला रियासत अंग्रेजों के साथ रणजीत सिंह के डर से थी l तुम्हारे scindia जैसे भी उसी category के हैं lपंजाब regiment रंजीत सिंह की नहीं है बेवकूफ़, पंजाब regiment में Punjabi हिन्दू और नए बने हरियाणवी हिन्दू भी थे l और उछलने से पहले यह विदेशी हमलावरों का दिया नाम "हिंदू" को बदल लो l यह तुम्हारी ग़ुलामी का चिन है l बाकी इतिहास बाद मेl
@@Raghu_Gaur_sharma lol There is simply no comparison of Marathas and Sikhs. Sikhs were never more than 2% of population. In spite of this they ruled up to Kabul. On the other hand Marathas in spite of being 85% of the population remained slaves and in the employment of Adil Shahi dynasty. Shivaji bhonsle himself was in the employment of Adil Shahi dynasty. Marathas never ruled up to Peshawar and major part of North. They came and went back in short duration. Remember your Marathas were 85%if the population when they remained slaves. That's enough lesson for you like kids as of now.
@@No2BlindFaith कौन सा काबुल जीत लिया तुमने? थोड़ी history पढ़ के आ, खैबर पर कुत्ते की मौत मारा था नलवा को अफगानो ने, और मै मराठा नही हूँ हरियाणा से हूँ, और मुझे मत समझा तुम्हारी history , कुछ न थे तुम और आगे भी कुछ न हो, कुए के मेंडक थे और वो ही रहोगे,
Sikh identity was well established during the rule of maharaja Ranjit singh, although tenth guru created Khalsa in 1699, later on sikh warriors kept on challenging aggressors which culminated in khallsa fauj of mahraja.
Thanks
I international rated hi class fide rating chess player n s Panwar salute to respected sir for outstanding presentation
I don't agree with col. Sir he must read about islamic literature, and Sir macolay.
Sahii khaa bhai yai jaat hai haar cheez Mai jaat ghusanaa hai iskoo jabardashtii🤔
@@Lionstar001 tumhare dimag m kichad bhra pda h jato se dushmani muslimo se
@@amitmalik7664my dear friend muslmano sln ladai 1200 A.d m start kri thi.....n tumne khalistaniyon k chakkar m appni tang jabardasti ghussa li.....
Else jats baki biradri k saath aaram se rah rhe h
With Due respect Col Saab has very distorted knowledge on the History of Sikh Identity separation from Hindus. Before British, Sikhs were not a separate religion from Hindus but Sikhi was a Panth or Samprdaay within Hinduism. Guru Gobind Singhji himself was a Devi Pujak. Please read his compositions of Chandi Charitr and Chandi di Vaar in Bhakti of Devi Chandi
We still say panth listen to ardhas
He has mentioned post guru era. Post 1857 war British empire conspired to break the social network of the society. Main culprit was the Jathedar Master Tara Singh aka Master Tara Chand Malhotra who was a British stooge. He conspired with Britishers to shift the Hindu ideals from Har mandir sahab. He leads his followers group to meet the resident commissioner for protesting Hindu ideals must shift being idealism is not the part of the Sikh faith. Being pre- planned conspiracy the resident commissioner accepted the demands and issued the funds for construction of a temple where the Hindu ideals are to be shifted. Durgyana temple was constructed in Amritsar and the the ideals which were placed in the Golden temple by Maharaja Ranjit Singh and the same were shifted. That was the black day of the division of Hindu Sikh brotherhood!
Our one son used to be sent in Hindu army which is A sikh . Sikh is like Arya samaj means hindu religion without Brahmin and moorti pooja. My late mother in western Punjab unfortunately now in Pakistan used to go to temple which was called Dharamshal ( Dharamshala) and in one room Ram Darbar was and
Other room had guru Granth saheb Praksh man in it .one Mahant used to be the organiser of it . And Sardar is not related with sikh but a Kabila sardar daikon ka sardar . This pagri dhari is sikh ( shishya) not sardar
Thus way Hindu state attacked Darbar Saab.
Killed innocent Sikhs all over India in 1984.
@@gurbhejsingh7619 🤣🤣 while bhinderwala crying in the corner after killing thousands of hindus
Nation concept bhi angrej hi laye the sir.usse pehle riyasat thin
@1:09:00 - About the infatuation and marriage part. Basic principle must be- you can't stop anyone from marrying a person once a person reaches adult age, as simple as that. Everyone must come to consensus on this
बाबा नानक जी की प्रणाली से देश चलेगा तो खुशहाल होगा उनकी प्रणाली है सब कुछ तेरा तेरा, अब जो देश को चला रहे हैं उनकी प्रणाली है सब कुछ मेरा मेरा, आगे देश टुकड़ों में बंटेगा देखते रहना।
Thik hai tumhari soch hai lekin ye kya bol raha hai bhai desh ke tukde honge chalo dekhte hain haad ho gayi sidha sidha aisi batein desh ke bare mein galat baat hai
Toh theek hai jaake kejroo ko vote de 😅😅😅
@@geecee5291kejri Kon Usko vote kyu de Ham
@@achyutambharatam2116ohne grnth di gl ni kri koi
Haryanasthani wali feeling arahi hai
Dhak jangal were present in complete belt from panipat till ambala
Development comes from stability, pre british there was no stability for a long time … maratha, sikh rule was short lived, their time was spent defending what they had … british post 1857 ruled ruthlessly and gained stability.. after which they were able to develop
Grand Trunk road was constructed by Sher Shah Suri. Foroz Shah Tuglak developed irrigation systems in this region . Todar Mal under Akbar rule introduced land revenue records .
Taxila and Nalanda landmark centres of knowledge were established in India during very early periods of history. It is not true that it were Britishers and none before them to made anything worthwhile.
GT Road was constructed by Chandragupta Maurya.
@@siddheshshanbhagthere is no proof chandra gupt maurya done that.
28:20. Swat mein #Gujjar hain btw ek large ethnicity.