I think he is happy to go along with the act, if he hinted that he knows it's for her, his life could be in danger. (Only for her to leave it on the table for all to see. 😬)
Midnyra is a hypocrite as well & spawning more criston coles? Criston is a r*pe victim of midnyra & a better person than the p*do r*pist daemon that you like shorty💯💯‼️
@@MemoirsofaBasketcase ahhh, that's an interesting one, I have always subscribed to the idea that Nettles isn't actually a dragon seed, but an ordinary person who trained a dragon "the hard way". They are intelligent animals and it is interesting that she is constantly feeding hers and growing that bond. Daeron could be similar? Or I could be completely wrong. Him being Criston's secret love child is more of a joke than a serious theory and might take away from Nettle's achievement in training Sheep-stealer.
Because nobody knows about Alicent and Cole besides Helaena, if Alicent were to give birth to Cole’s child. Their relationship would be revealed, they don’t want that.
He would be a fool to not expect the queen mother to abort their illegitimate child, even more so as they accuse their opponent to have birthed illegitimate children.
Pregnant I think given the very bad cramps she experienced after drinking the tea. That was more of an abortion potion than a contraceptive tea I guess.
@@GlanceOfPast Doesn't have to be. I imagine, regardless of pregnancy or not, the idea of the tea is to force the period to come, thus flushing whatever might be inside. And this is painful. But given her gestures and that it seems that she doesn't regularly drink it, I assume she was indeed pregnant.
@@bunnysm That already happened to me once, taking some kind of medicine to cause the period to come and that wasn't hurtful at all, or no more than having my regular period (not talking about period cramps but what you feel when it just arrived). But every women are different I guess. However, I do think the purpose of that scene was to show she was indeed pregnant otherwise it would be pointless.
True, but at least she doesn’t sleep around with several different people like Aegon and Rhaenyra did. Rhaenyra slept with three men, including her own uncle and Aegon has been with at least every single woman in King’s Landing(some of them against their will). The only people Alicent has slept with is Viserys, her lawful husband and Criston Cole.
@@garlantyrell6368with cole she was drunk, and she was with harwin for 10 years with consent of her husband and had her children with him only , with daemon she was victim of grooming. Don't compare her with Aegon who has slept with half of the realm
@@garlantyrell6368this comment is so weird considering that all of the relations rhaenyras have been in the confines of her relationship with them. Like she was with Harwin for a decade. Sleeping with men you like isn’t a problem it becomes a problem when your preaching a moral code only to then immediately break it when you get the chance which is what alicent is doing
Instead of an abortion tea, I thought moon tea was supposed to be like a plan B, since when Rhaenyra had it, she was told it was to prevent any consequences
@@siavoshfirelordNo. Just her son who isn't the proclaimed heir. 😂 And upset at another woman for having relations unwed and beneath her station, which she is now doing herself.
@@anonymus390her son who was the king's son without any doubts. Therefore, even if Aegon wasn't who Viserys chose to succeded, Aegon had the claim and the right to the throne. Rhaenyra instead wanted to pass her boys as velaryon (while it's clear as the sun they aren't) and put one on the iron throne, the other as the next lord of the tides. Talking about hypocrisy, aren't we?
Criston was rightfully pissed about midnyra the r*pist using him as well as the thing he put his entire self worth into getting FOREVER ruined just for that 💯💯 Especially considering he didn’t even wanna do it & said stop which means no & tried to leave….💯💯
I repeat this scene kinda adds nothing to the story Maybe Alicent making a "Rhaenyra move" like she did with the Strong Or maybe to show Larys knows all about her But the scene would be so much better if Alicent says to Cole what she did and Cole goes to commit un-alive by attacking Riverlands Is like we never get a last dialogue between them . . .
How ironic and hilarious would it be if she does give birth to a baby and she takes a page from Rhae-Rhae’s book? Oh yes my husband who could barely stand impregnated me before he croaked. So sad so sad his final gift to us. The baby has dark hair and does not look like it’s siblings you say? Well about time one looked like me. And the baby is Maelor.
Its like the day after pill. Not an abortion. Shes not getting rid of his baby, more like the posibility of a baby. Thats how it works. I have to say good on her, but the actor is so handsome it would probe be a cuter babe than any of Viserys just on the physical sense . They choose beautiful actors that look bad with wigs except Aemon. But in reality the actor that plays Cole is way better looking than Viserys or Daemon. They are just a bit... hideous. Not to be mean
I think it was abortion tea, she had a bump and was already pregnant. I agree Matt Smith is hideous but not Paddy Considine, he's average but was quite attractive when young.
Yes but she touches the belly like she is solid with a baby The shows sucks in time skip but the last scene with Cole could be a day or a week or weeks since he goes to War
@@Morfe02 I got the impression that she started sleeping with Cole when Viserys calls her Aemma. So she could easily have been months pregnant if she was too embarrassed to ask for moon tea before then.
@lillielavelle9738 thats wrong xD When Laena die, Daemon and Rhaenyra start dating and the time skip is like 3 years at least or more In which they recast Aemond and Aegon 2 for adult versions, but yes they could start cheating since that time xd
@Ploopbloopz Seriously. I thought only young n dumb teenagers still believed in the pull-out method. But full grown ADULTS believing in it??? We're doomed.....
Why is everyone attacking Alicent for her relationship with Cole? I mean, she's actually a widow, so she's not cheating. There's nothing wrong when a single woman has a lover, even if she's a Queen Mother.
I think Queen Dowagers or Queen Mothers are expected to remain sexless in order to project that pure image that people expect from them. For example, in the book, Cersei is arrested by The High Sparrow for sleeping with Lancel and Osney Kettleblack, even after Robert's death. He even mentions something along the lines of Cersei being a victim to the known wickedness of widows. So Alicent would be screwed if people caught her breaking that ideal maternal image, especially with a man under her employment.
Alicent wasn't the problem (in the show). She was used as a pawn by her extremely greedy father, who put fear and paranoia inside her head, causing her to destroy her friendship with Rhaenyra.
Christ is the Latin word for anointed and existed before Jesus was born. Names like Criston did not exist before Jesus and are variants of Christian. However, it is possible that an ASOIAF character had the title of "Anointed" and some of his followers named their kids, grandkids, etc. after the concept of "following an Anointed" (but I doubt Martin was thinking that much about it). Edit: Cole is the Middle English spelling of coal. The Anglicization of the last name Kohl is probably what it is because of this spelling.
Well lysa was forced by her dad to drink moon after she banged lil finger as a teen. They reckon thats what messed up her womb cuss after she struggled to get pregnant by lord arryn (who was assurred she could because of the incident in question) then robin came out sickly.
@@AmiWhiteWolf Martin has stated Moon Tea has horrific side effects, even death, but given how much it's used in HotD, with little seen consequences, that's another canon they broke.
This part of the plot is actually cut of the entire series LOL I think we miss a final talk between Cole and Alicent one where she realize how wrong she is (because of Dragonstone episode 8) And one where Cole is absolute im dark path now more when she says to him about her abortion
I don't get why this was included. It feels wrong to show Alicent killing her child for no reason. There's no purpose than to show she's not a good person. There's less horrific ways to show that.
Dude Alicent isn't a bad person cuz she wants an abortion. She's a bad person because she's a self righteous hypocrite. Nobody in the audience cares about the abortion, just about her hypocrisy
She didn’t kill it because she can’t stand the thought of having children with criston tho… Pretty sure that was cersei thought process with Robert tho but I could be wrong
You can literally make your own abortion tea, there are plenty of herbs that induce menstruation early. Of course it can still have bad side-effects, but it's a thing.
Looks like no one wants to go across the sea and sell oranges with Criston.
Omg 💀💀
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Crispin*
😂😂😂😂😂
Boom. Nailed this one.
Grand Maester Orwyle: With all due respect your majesty. Please drop the act. We both know it’s for you.
Exactly what I was thinking
Not to defend her, but everyone is aware of Aegon's assaults on the maids. The master could've thought it was for one of them again
@@mynameisnotimportant176 yeah plus Aegon is unstable 😂
I think he is happy to go along with the act, if he hinted that he knows it's for her, his life could be in danger. (Only for her to leave it on the table for all to see. 😬)
@@mynameisnotimportant176 wasn't Aegon already burned when she drank this potion
This lady maybe a hypocrite but she is also doing the realm a favor by not spawning more Criston Coles.
😭😭😭😭
Midnyra is a hypocrite as well & spawning more criston coles? Criston is a r*pe victim of midnyra & a better person than the p*do r*pist daemon that you like shorty💯💯‼️
One is already too many. 😑
All he has is rejection, a hidden affair, and one aborted orange
Img I cant pls stop@@omnoms2445
Ofc she don't want to keep the baby from man who constantly whined about her ex bff not wanting to pick oranges with him 💀
Then she shouldn't have smashed 😅
@@bmoreblondie6301bruh smashing doesn’t mean you now have to pick oranges with that person
He's a medieval pick me
She is the biggest hypocrite 😂
No, they BOTH are!
How?
@@aengusog3415 all of the crap she gave rhaenerya about her son's with Strong 🤣🤣
@@augustdavis4725 who is the other person you are referring to??? Rhaenerya?
Trueeee
No one wants crispens kids. 😂
Wouldn't it be funny if when Daeron eventually shows up, he has dark curly hair, light brown skin and other Dornish features...
Cole isn’t exactly Dornish, his family hails from the Dornish Marches, which is part of the Stormlands.
Then he wouldn’t be able to ride his dragon.
@@MemoirsofaBasketcase ahhh, that's an interesting one, I have always subscribed to the idea that Nettles isn't actually a dragon seed, but an ordinary person who trained a dragon "the hard way". They are intelligent animals and it is interesting that she is constantly feeding hers and growing that bond.
Daeron could be similar?
Or I could be completely wrong. Him being Criston's secret love child is more of a joke than a serious theory and might take away from Nettle's achievement in training Sheep-stealer.
@@josephlongbone4255 nettle definitely watched how to train your dragon
@@rovanajean9550 that was exactly what I was thinking.
I knew they were going to play this route with her carrying Cole's baby
Ikr, it was honestly predictable
1:44 the fact Larys is so comfortable speaking to the (dowager) Queen like this shows how far he’s woven himself into Alicent’s life.
Ikr
Right jizzing on ger feet 😂
Alicent, get your feet ready.Larys is going to use that against you.
HAHAHAHA.
Nah 💀
Larys (see's the plan B): "MMMM... that is a rich indulgence" 😅😅😅
😂😂😂😂
She a bad liar lmao larys can already tell
Thought it was ridiculous she left that empty potion bottle right there for anybody to walk in and see lol
@@alphagerudo i think it's because nobody would have thought it's moon tea lol, just some random potions for diarrhea XD
@@rovanajean9550 Or so she must've assumed, though it clearly wasn't the case.
@@alphagerudo maybe she was cramping and managing her bleeding and she couldnt think about hiding it
he knows. both alicent and larys in this scene speaks in metaphor😂
The fact that she still acts holier than thou is crazy 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 hypocrisy level: unmatched
That’s hypocrites for you ! They will pretend even when caught red handed
@@nnekam6153you mean how rhaenyra claims her children are true born😃
@@Meme-jo7uj 💯💯
@@AnnaNaan-j3f you still Like a couple hypocrites on team black regardless potna
Looks like the snake doesn't want to lay another egg
Because nobody knows about Alicent and Cole besides Helaena, if Alicent were to give birth to Cole’s child. Their relationship would be revealed, they don’t want that.
@@addiesmoviess WHOA really? 😅
who wants to bear children in the middle of a war anyway? Kids are being unalived left right center
Snake? Yall midnyra the r*pist fans are hilarious
I'm interested in seeing how will cole react knowing his baby was aborted.
He would be a fool to not expect the queen mother to abort their illegitimate child, even more so as they accuse their opponent to have birthed illegitimate children.
@@Nickname-ef9tv Yes but he can have hidden emotions about it.
@@Nickname-ef9tvyou’d think but he also expected Rhaenyra to abandon her crown to run away with him after they slept together 😂
Doubt he'll ever even know.
@@Nickname-ef9tvthe point is that he is a fool, he already gave us more than enough proof that he does not think.
Question was alicent actually pregnant or was she just taking moon tea as plan B because I know it’s used for both in asoif
Pregnant I think given the very bad cramps she experienced after drinking the tea. That was more of an abortion potion than a contraceptive tea I guess.
@@GlanceOfPast Doesn't have to be. I imagine, regardless of pregnancy or not, the idea of the tea is to force the period to come, thus flushing whatever might be inside. And this is painful. But given her gestures and that it seems that she doesn't regularly drink it, I assume she was indeed pregnant.
Yes. Rhaenyra did it too in 1 season.
@@bunnysm That already happened to me once, taking some kind of medicine to cause the period to come and that wasn't hurtful at all, or no more than having my regular period (not talking about period cramps but what you feel when it just arrived). But every women are different I guess. However, I do think the purpose of that scene was to show she was indeed pregnant otherwise it would be pointless.
@GlanceOfPast For me it was very painful and I am pretty sure I wasn't pregnant. But yeah, if a baby is already growing, it should be more painful
Larys: I call BS 😂
What a fraking hypocrite. Made a big deal about Rheynera sons, Aegon sleeping around, and here she is sleeping around.
WITH A KINGS GUARD NO LESS!!!!
True, but at least she doesn’t sleep around with several different people like Aegon and Rhaenyra did. Rhaenyra slept with three men, including her own uncle and Aegon has been with at least every single woman in King’s Landing(some of them against their will). The only people Alicent has slept with is Viserys, her lawful husband and Criston Cole.
@@garlantyrell6368Still in abuse 🤣🤣. 3 men is definitely huge 🙄🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️Just to be sure you know it's not in the same period with the guys 🤔😂??!!
@@garlantyrell6368with cole she was drunk, and she was with harwin for 10 years with consent of her husband and had her children with him only , with daemon she was victim of grooming. Don't compare her with Aegon who has slept with half of the realm
@@garlantyrell6368this comment is so weird considering that all of the relations rhaenyras have been in the confines of her relationship with them. Like she was with Harwin for a decade. Sleeping with men you like isn’t a problem it becomes a problem when your preaching a moral code only to then immediately break it when you get the chance which is what alicent is doing
And you know this for sure? Seems, Alicent has a lot of secrets.
I would have all Cristons babies
Damn alicent really kill cole baby by drinking moon 🍵
did you expect her to go to essos and sell oranges and cinnamon ?
It's plan B. She might not even be pregnant.
Medieval version of Plan B.🤣
The title is legendary.
Instead of an abortion tea, I thought moon tea was supposed to be like a plan B, since when Rhaenyra had it, she was told it was to prevent any consequences
It's both technically.
It's both. It induces early menstruation, expelling everything in the womb.
After all she said about bastarda and rhaenyra
She’s a self righteous hypocrite who is afraid of people seeing her for what she really is.
Well She didn't give birth to it and tried to put it on the iron throne.
@@siavoshfirelordNo. Just her son who isn't the proclaimed heir. 😂 And upset at another woman for having relations unwed and beneath her station, which she is now doing herself.
@@anonymus390 It's a son. It's automatically the heir. The Iron Throne isn't in Dorne.
@@anonymus390her son who was the king's son without any doubts. Therefore, even if Aegon wasn't who Viserys chose to succeded, Aegon had the claim and the right to the throne.
Rhaenyra instead wanted to pass her boys as velaryon (while it's clear as the sun they aren't) and put one on the iron throne, the other as the next lord of the tides.
Talking about hypocrisy, aren't we?
Alicent ate too much of Ser Criston’s cream pies
She wouldn't need the tea if she had eaten it 😂.
Crispy is a disgusting person, but damn, he's gorgeous (physically).
So I'd be gulping them creamy milk pies, too.
@@Alexandra_B.G., 😂😂😂, maybe she didn’t eat all of it, missed some and now has to deal with the consequences. Helena walked in on them after all.
@@lamiya_fox Hahahahha "You're not gonna get up until you finish your food!".
@@Alexandra_B.G. , 😂😂
I ventured into getting my pie eaten- I meant eating pie at last night’s supper… too far I fear, my lord.
Honestly, I think cristen Cole just grew a massive ego, since you got named King guard and had intimacy with Rhaenyra
Criston was rightfully pissed about midnyra the r*pist using him as well as the thing he put his entire self worth into getting FOREVER ruined just for that 💯💯
Especially considering he didn’t even wanna do it & said stop which means no & tried to leave….💯💯
I repeat this scene kinda adds nothing to the story
Maybe Alicent making a "Rhaenyra move" like she did with the Strong
Or maybe to show Larys knows all about her
But the scene would be so much better if Alicent says to Cole what she did and Cole goes to commit un-alive by attacking Riverlands
Is like we never get a last dialogue between them . . .
How ironic and hilarious would it be if she does give birth to a baby and she takes a page from Rhae-Rhae’s book? Oh yes my husband who could barely stand impregnated me before he croaked. So sad so sad his final gift to us. The baby has dark hair and does not look like it’s siblings you say? Well about time one looked like me. And the baby is Maelor.
@@desporf actually a better arc just to make Alicent more . . . Stupid ? Hipocrite ? Anyways still better than . . . Episode 8
Its like the day after pill.
Not an abortion. Shes not getting rid of his baby, more like the posibility of a baby.
Thats how it works.
I have to say good on her, but the actor is so handsome it would probe be a cuter babe than any of Viserys just on the physical sense .
They choose beautiful actors that look bad with wigs except Aemon. But in reality the actor that plays Cole is way better looking than Viserys or Daemon. They are just a bit... hideous.
Not to be mean
I think it was abortion tea, she had a bump and was already pregnant.
I agree Matt Smith is hideous but not Paddy Considine, he's average but was quite attractive when young.
Yes but she touches the belly like she is solid with a baby
The shows sucks in time skip but the last scene with Cole could be a day or a week or weeks since he goes to War
@@Morfe02 I got the impression that she started sleeping with Cole when Viserys calls her Aemma. So she could easily have been months pregnant if she was too embarrassed to ask for moon tea before then.
@lillielavelle9738 thats wrong xD
When Laena die, Daemon and Rhaenyra start dating and the time skip is like 3 years at least or more
In which they recast Aemond and Aegon 2 for adult versions, but yes they could start cheating since that time xd
Can someone explain what she was doing by the fireplace later on? she was taking out rock or something before Larys came?
Making a heating pad for the pain I thought since she wouldn't want to ask the maester, and give herself away.
Why she puts up with Larys is beyond me. Dude is gross
𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 Alicent
I don’t understand. Was pullout not a well known thing back then if a couple did not intend to have children?
You are aware pulling out isn't a reliable contraceptive method lmao
@@Ploopbloopz kinda makes me wonder if Harwin had such a bad pullout game or if Rhaenyra didn't mind having 3 of his kids
@@l.n.3372 Harwin looks good too. And his babies were handsome.
@Ploopbloopz Seriously. I thought only young n dumb teenagers still believed in the pull-out method. But full grown ADULTS believing in it??? We're doomed.....
Whice ep this is??
Princess with benefits!! 😆😂
I hope, pray and wish that the Moon Tea does not work.
Do we know what the ratio of success to failure Moon Tea is, in comparison to that of historical abortifacients?
This cougar boils my blood
They are butchering her and Criston’s character’s!!!
Why is everyone attacking Alicent for her relationship with Cole? I mean, she's actually a widow, so she's not cheating. There's nothing wrong when a single woman has a lover, even if she's a Queen Mother.
The point is,in Westeros highborn women can’t be seen being pregnant outside of wedlock with bastards,especially the queen mother.
Any form of sexual activity outside of marriage is strictly prohibited by the Faith.
I think Queen Dowagers or Queen Mothers are expected to remain sexless in order to project that pure image that people expect from them.
For example, in the book, Cersei is arrested by The High Sparrow for sleeping with Lancel and Osney Kettleblack, even after Robert's death.
He even mentions something along the lines of Cersei being a victim to the known wickedness of widows.
So Alicent would be screwed if people caught her breaking that ideal maternal image, especially with a man under her employment.
Because she shames others for it
Because she is the one to shame others for the same damn thing.
Alicent is such a damn Hypocrite. Can't have no Crispy Spawn running around. But gave Rhaenyra grief about her Strong Sons
😂 this is hilarious.
Alicent’s mother should’ve drank the moon tea to get rid of her, maybe there wouldn’t be a war
Would still be a war
Alicent wasn't the problem (in the show). She was used as a pawn by her extremely greedy father, who put fear and paranoia inside her head, causing her to destroy her friendship with Rhaenyra.
1:11 can this be a reason why Helaena forgives her?
Ooh maybe!
Why his name is criston ? Is there christianity in westeros. Why his family cole ? Is there america in That universe ?
Christ is the Latin word for anointed and existed before Jesus was born. Names like Criston did not exist before Jesus and are variants of Christian. However, it is possible that an ASOIAF character had the title of "Anointed" and some of his followers named their kids, grandkids, etc. after the concept of "following an Anointed" (but I doubt Martin was thinking that much about it).
Edit: Cole is the Middle English spelling of coal. The Anglicization of the last name Kohl is probably what it is because of this spelling.
He's very crispy
@grass7864 i thought dorne is supposed to be arab
@@mimulittle4399 nah midnyra the r*pist is considering how she dies
Hightower women are truly the worst of them
Moon tea - Criston Cole 2:0
The r*pe victim criston
I'm waiting for when one of these Westeros shows to actually have a woman die from using Moon Tea, like such real world potions would very often do
Well lysa was forced by her dad to drink moon after she banged lil finger as a teen.
They reckon thats what messed up her womb cuss after she struggled to get pregnant by lord arryn (who was assurred she could because of the incident in question) then robin came out sickly.
I think that happens to Lysa Tully in the GOT books. It might be the reason she had problems later while trying to concieve John Arryn's children.
@@AmiWhiteWolf Martin has stated Moon Tea has horrific side effects, even death, but given how much it's used in HotD, with little seen consequences, that's another canon they broke.
@MegaKnight2012 or perhaps, due to the fact that HofD was set almost 200 years before GoT, the effects weren't well known yet?
Anymore feet scenes you think in S3?
😮😢😂😂she should have letf tye babies for adoption 😢😮
nah that was rhaenyra’s baby 😔
She is still pregnant 🤰 drink did not work !
What a hypocrite. Giving crap to Rhaenyra, while doing the same thing.
She isn’t having b*stards out of wedlock & putting them in the line of succession so it’s kinda different….💯💯
This part of the plot is actually cut of the entire series LOL
I think we miss a final talk between Cole and Alicent one where she realize how wrong she is (because of Dragonstone episode 8)
And one where Cole is absolute im dark path now more when she says to him about her abortion
I don't get why this was included. It feels wrong to show Alicent killing her child for no reason. There's no purpose than to show she's not a good person. There's less horrific ways to show that.
She's a not a good person because she chooses to not have a child?
Dude Alicent isn't a bad person cuz she wants an abortion. She's a bad person because she's a self righteous hypocrite. Nobody in the audience cares about the abortion, just about her hypocrisy
omg thought i was the only one who hated him that much 😭😭 im glad everyone sees his nonsense attitude 😅 this man would not survive a day in GOT.
Who are you talking about? If you’re talking about criston then you’re delusional asf
In my opinion she a a bit like Cersei in the books because Book Cersei killer Roberts children in side of her
She didn’t kill it because she can’t stand the thought of having children with criston tho…
Pretty sure that was cersei thought process with Robert tho but I could be wrong
She is a bit Cersei taking stupid choices and being drunk 😂
This should be available at walmart
You can literally make your own abortion tea, there are plenty of herbs that induce menstruation early. Of course it can still have bad side-effects, but it's a thing.