GREAT IDEA - A watchmaker & certified jeweler along for the unboxing! Ali gives a great perspective. Even with quips like 'these were designed by people who don't create watches,' he manages to recognize the impressive virtues of the 'product.' Maybe it shouldn't be called a watch - maybe a 'wrist wear device' instead?
Interesting, I've had my stainless steel watch for a bit now and have enjoyed it, but I haven't actually thought about the perspective of a seasoned watchmaker on their thoughts of the build and finish on a smartwatch. But the more I look at it, the more I love the look of the Apple Watch, and it really IS interesting to hear a seasoned opinion. Many thanks for this video.
That watch guy is so cool. He's part of a Dying Breed. Hopefully guys like this will always be around. The Apple watch is cool but it's certainly a joke when it comes to people that really enjoy watches or timepieces. I'm currently wearing a series 3 Apple watch but I understand that it's a piece of tech that it will be outdated in two to three years tops
Blake Bowden When we ordered it, we were planning on doing a teardown. We changed our mind, but it was too late to cancel the order. Since we had it here in the office, we figured we'd take a look.
Blake Bowden Wait, They ordered the $10,800 dollar watch and returned it!? Isn't there a restocking fee? Last time I watched iFixit, MJ was hosting. What happened to her?
I don't quite get the purpose of this video (It's an overpriced luxury item for multi-millionaires or people with no sense) - but I enjoyed the seasoned jeweler's presence.
I’m agree that Apple watches are a blip in the road for people like Ali who work with genuine watches like Rolex’s, citizen watches, jaeger lecoultres, etc. Every year Apple comes out with some new feature that makes people go out and buy the newer version. From series 1 to 2 it was water resistance. Series 3 to 4 it was the increase in the screen size and EKG tracking. People are saying series 6 will be for blood oxygen, but the sensors on the back potentially already have that tech so it would probably be just a software update to activate it in older apps. I foresee series 6 and 7 being potentially the same as series 5 with maybe new watch bands and new watch faces (which will be available on series 5 in a software update). I don’t foresee a major change to Apple Watch coming until/unless they change to what Samsung does and makes a circular watch. I mean even sleep tracking is coming with something as simple as a OS update. I’m interested to see the new features for Apple Watch series 6 but I highly doubt I’ll be buying one.
I feel like for people with the Apple Watch Edition Apple will make a program for Edition owners to send in their watch and have them upgrade to internals every year for like $3000-4000
Presignify If you watched their tear down it was impossible too remove most of the main internals without destroying the watch. They said a upgrade program like that is less then likely.
+Ruben or it could be something more like an upgrade program were you send them your watch you get a specific amount of credit towards the new version then they recycle the parts they can and so on.
I'd rather buy a $6k Rolex and then a stainless steel apple watch. Best of both worlds and still save a couple thousand dollars. Then again, the people buying the edition probably don't care at all about money.
I’m late I know but I’m with Ali. Apple should have done an upgrading thing for the Apple Watch Edition to series 2 or 3 for the ceramic watch edition. I hate apples trade in watch policy. You pay $350 for an Apple Watch but when you trade it in they only give you up to $150. I mean that’s awful. They need to make it like the iPhone where they at least give you $200-$250 back and if you have an hermes, give you $500-$600.
Nice to hear what a true watchmaker thinks about these "smart" watches and I totally agree with him. You can pass a high quality and precise Rolex (or other brand) watch to your children, grandchildren... but "smart" watches are going to end up in trash cans. It is the same with touch phones which are released every year with almost no design change.
I definitely agree on his point regarding something like this versus the longevity of, say, a Rolex. I just don't get the point of this video; seems like it's just to shit on Apple here. The audience for this version - and the celebrities you've seen wearing them - only drive next year's model cars, and live in multi-million dollar homes. Too many Average Joes commenting on a product that's not aimed at them or their finances.
So you think it's better to buy a $10,000 Rolex???duh of course! My dad has a gold Rolex which was passed on to him when my grandfather died. I would absolutely laugh if it were an Apple Watch was passed on to him. It would be so weird or wrong haha
"high end product" the single difference from the stainless and the edition is the case material... the gold its self is worth nowhere near 10k... you wasted a LOT of money on a useless product.
SnorkFlirt ignorant? how is it ignorant if i know there are almost no watches worth their weight in gold? most people pay 10k 20k, 500k, for a watch because its exclusive, this its a mass produced version of an already mass produced 400 dollar watch.
Tyler Walker it's 18k composite gold, is it pure 18k gold? NO. It has ceramics and other components to make it harder and stronger, does that increase the value and the cost? yes. Is it worth it? Absolutely NO (unless you are climbing the everest with it). like he said a gold watch should be a jewelry item to be irreplaceable and to las for decades especially a gold watch. This watch is an utter utter waste of money!
SnorkFlirt it should last for decades or at least they should service it for a lifetime, most of the wearables that claim luxury prices do, even if rolex or choppard never advertise that their jewelry should last for decades they do. what apple did do was to advertise it as a piece of personal and wearable jewelry which fits it right with the above mentioned.
SnorkFlirt on the video they were impressed with he quality more than anything else. on the other side they shouldn't have made it of gold they have some many luxurious materials that do not cost as much and do no prompt the company to be on the mouth of the world for the wrong reasons. If someone wants it they can buy it no one says they shouldn't, everybody is allowed to do as they like mate.
75$ internals plated in gold for 5000$ and you get a 50 cent silicone armband with it,very stylish Apple marketing department is loughing all the day forom how silly their fans are!. And I didn't know that when you put a charging cradle in a box it makes the box automaticly a build in charger.... for that money Apple could have had spend another one that is really build in.
I think the $10k Apple Watch is a product that is designed for people who dispose devices without any second thoughts, marketed to people who wanted to use it for life.
If money doesn't matter because you are rich as sh!t, ok. There is still the gold that will be worth something, but probably much less than you paid for. If you spend 10k$ for a proper mechanical watch by a well known brand it's value is much more stable. Depending on the model it's value may increase over time.
This is very educational as this master watch maker tells the truth and I would love to use him as my watch caretaker. You can tell he is full of wisdom. Apple at this point probably feels like dummies for coming out with this dumb watch thinking they could compete with Rolex price points.
I knew spending that much on a watch would be a waste of money. The ceramic one out now isn't as bad of an investment. I think Apple wanted money for research and development so they released the overpriced stupid solid gold one.
It's product you melt down after three years but i'm guessing no one who can afford a throw away $1700 watch is going to recycle it rather throw it in a box and forget it.
2 things: 1: why did he put it one his right hand instead his left (it's said if you do that, your gay but I don't believe that) 2: obviously it's got a heft to it because it's gold and gold is very dense so it's really heavy and heavier than lead
If anything was worth watching in this video, it was the comment the jeweller made and that was you can have a rolex passed down for generations while the Apple watch seems like a total waste, kudos to that my friend!! Apple just knows how to market their stuff, its surprising to know that there isn't any difference in the sport and gold, expect for some fucking 18 carrot gold, LOL!!
the thing that seemed funny is that when other watch brands have their products hand crafted in countries like Italy and France, etc the Apple watch on the box says, designed in California and made in China, hahahahaha that's so funny!!
That is the point that I'm making. If you can't replace the battery without using a heat gun on glue, buying obscure tools and using above average skill for a user, then it is harder to keep the product going. It is also harder to pass/sell it on to others for them to use, after the original owner buys something newer, faster and shinier.
Bet Apple LOVED the fact that 100's of youtube channels bought this to unbox it and send it right back to them. Returning something because you changed your mind is one thing. Buying something with intention to open it use it and return it, just seems unethical to me.
We need more kind old gentlemen on TH-cam
I very much appreciate the guest's input especially on his point of longevity. Great video overall.
I don't know why but I really enjoyed watching this video. It's kinda like seeing Enzo Ferrari analysing a Tesla. Great Job iFixit.
The guy on the right is very knowledgable, you should have him in more watch videos
4:55 he was completely right, now the series 0 apple watch is very slow and hasn't had a software update in years.
Loved this video. Interesting to see a traditional watch masters views on a product like this.
Ali looks like a cool guy to meet!
Curtis Clarkson Totally agree, as my mother is iranian :)
+Curtis Clarkson (Curtis187) most
I come from the future. This watch has been discontinued, with ceramic and apple said fuck you if you bought the 17,000 dollar watch.
you are lying
john Peter no
Fantastic insight from the jeweler (and great leading questions as well). This was truly fun to watch!
I really appreciate the dynamic in this video between your questions and the watchmakers experience.
old gentleman really nailed it. Calm, composed and top of it the experience he is having.
GREAT IDEA - A watchmaker & certified jeweler along for the unboxing! Ali gives a great perspective. Even with quips like 'these were designed by people who don't create watches,' he manages to recognize the impressive virtues of the 'product.' Maybe it shouldn't be called a watch - maybe a 'wrist wear device' instead?
4:57 he predicted. The watchOS 5 2018 update dropped the support for the 2015 Apple watches.
And he also predicted blood oxygen sensor of Watch Series 6.
I saw a guy wearing a an Apple gold watch. It immediately caught my attention. It looked really nice. I was impressed
Interesting, I've had my stainless steel watch for a bit now and have enjoyed it, but I haven't actually thought about the perspective of a seasoned watchmaker on their thoughts of the build and finish on a smartwatch. But the more I look at it, the more I love the look of the Apple Watch, and it really IS interesting to hear a seasoned opinion.
Many thanks for this video.
That watch guy is so cool. He's part of a Dying Breed. Hopefully guys like this will always be around. The Apple watch is cool but it's certainly a joke when it comes to people that really enjoy watches or timepieces. I'm currently wearing a series 3 Apple watch but I understand that it's a piece of tech that it will be outdated in two to three years tops
Now you don’t get watchOS 5 on that $17K 18Karat Gold Apple Watch. While the series 4 with gold stainless steel case only cost around $700~
I'd love to hear more from Mr. Athari and watches he works with, vastly more interesting than the Apple Watch
I would like to see this guys takes on other watches as well , like the Moto 360
So they buy a watch they had no intention of keeping except for the sole purpose of doing a video for $ and returning it? Lame
Blake Bowden When we ordered it, we were planning on doing a teardown. We changed our mind, but it was too late to cancel the order. Since we had it here in the office, we figured we'd take a look.
They are returning it so what's the matter ?
Blake Bowden No, they had an expert look at it and judge its quality. You even saw and understood the Video ???
Blake Bowden Wait, They ordered the $10,800 dollar watch and returned it!? Isn't there a restocking fee? Last time I watched iFixit, MJ was hosting. What happened to her?
TheLivingDeadOne Wow, you've been away for a while, then. MJ's long since moved on.
I don't quite get the purpose of this video (It's an overpriced luxury item for multi-millionaires or people with no sense) - but I enjoyed the seasoned jeweler's presence.
Ricky Stafford The purpose was that you enjoyed the seasoned jeweler's presence.
If your a multimillionaire, why wouldn’t you buy this watch?
not the future of watches but an evolution of the smartphone and associated tech
I’m agree that Apple watches are a blip in the road for people like Ali who work with genuine watches like Rolex’s, citizen watches, jaeger lecoultres, etc. Every year Apple comes out with some new feature that makes people go out and buy the newer version. From series 1 to 2 it was water resistance. Series 3 to 4 it was the increase in the screen size and EKG tracking. People are saying series 6 will be for blood oxygen, but the sensors on the back potentially already have that tech so it would probably be just a software update to activate it in older apps. I foresee series 6 and 7 being potentially the same as series 5 with maybe new watch bands and new watch faces (which will be available on series 5 in a software update). I don’t foresee a major change to Apple Watch coming until/unless they change to what Samsung does and makes a circular watch. I mean even sleep tracking is coming with something as simple as a OS update. I’m interested to see the new features for Apple Watch series 6 but I highly doubt I’ll be buying one.
Let's get some more watch videos from Ali and his watch skills!
I want this kind of video on other smartwatches, like some andriod watches, you can make more of them in one video if you want too.
I feel like for people with the Apple Watch Edition Apple will make a program for Edition owners to send in their watch and have them upgrade to internals every year for like $3000-4000
Presignify If you watched their tear down it was impossible too remove most of the main internals without destroying the watch. They said a upgrade program like that is less then likely.
I did, but maybe Apple would switch out all the internals so damaging them wouldn't matter
+Ruben or it could be something more like an upgrade program were you send them your watch you get a specific amount of credit towards the new version then they recycle the parts they can and so on.
Loved hearing the jeweler's thoughts.
I wanna know what watch the watch master is wearing. That's the watch that I want. If its good enough for him...
It's a Rolex
Great interview and with a knowledge noble watch expert made this one of my best watched ever
Can u say the gold enclosure is flush with the sapphire all the way around?
DAFAQ you gona do when version 2 comes out in 6 months? :)
That guy with the beard..
First of all, his beard is amazing
Second, his voice is amazing XD
We need more grand masters with awesome beards on the Internet!
Those glasses are badass
I'd rather buy a $6k Rolex and then a stainless steel apple watch. Best of both worlds and still save a couple thousand dollars. Then again, the people buying the edition probably don't care at all about money.
I’m late I know but I’m with Ali. Apple should have done an upgrading thing for the Apple Watch Edition to series 2 or 3 for the ceramic watch edition. I hate apples trade in watch policy. You pay $350 for an Apple Watch but when you trade it in they only give you up to $150. I mean that’s awful. They need to make it like the iPhone where they at least give you $200-$250 back and if you have an hermes, give you $500-$600.
Ali is so interesting, really made this video for me. Great work guys.
So what do you think about this.......
Ali : I'm impressed
That little thing cost HOW Much!?!?!???
Nice to hear what a true watchmaker thinks about these "smart" watches and I totally agree with him. You can pass a high quality and precise Rolex (or other brand) watch to your children, grandchildren... but "smart" watches are going to end up in trash cans. It is the same with touch phones which are released every year with almost no design change.
i kept thinking i want this watch guy be a voice in a pixar movie
What he was saying with gold being gold, apple has somehow made the gold twice as durable by using half as much. Don't ask how. I don't don't know.
None of the watch markers designed this apple watch. Best line of all times
This was great, really interesting to hear your thoughts!
People that bought these should buy a series 1 and swap those internals into this.
Did he actually go through with the trade? I mean he's got a boat that's awesome!
I definitely agree on his point regarding something like this versus the longevity of, say, a Rolex. I just don't get the point of this video; seems like it's just to shit on Apple here.
The audience for this version - and the celebrities you've seen wearing them - only drive next year's model cars, and live in multi-million dollar homes. Too many Average Joes commenting on a product that's not aimed at them or their finances.
So what does Apple do with all of these returned Edition models?
The dumpster, so when people go dumpster diving, they get a free apple watch edition!
Most likely they will inspect it, wipe it and resell it or at the extreme melt it down then make a new watch from the same gold
I have a working pulsar 18k digital watch .
Valyrian Gold made with Dragonfire and Magic
Well at least it has a charger. My mk 6 doesn’t have it now
So you think it's better to buy a $10,000 Rolex???duh of course! My dad has a gold Rolex which was passed on to him when my grandfather died. I would absolutely laugh if it were an Apple Watch was passed on to him. It would be so weird or wrong haha
So You're not going to destroy it?
I do not see the reason to pay dearly for something that is obsolete too fast, as in the case of apple products
it's iPX7
"high end product" the single difference from the stainless and the edition is the case material... the gold its self is worth nowhere near 10k... you wasted a LOT of money on a useless product.
SnorkFlirt why would you ask me to tell you something you already know?
SnorkFlirt ignorant? how is it ignorant if i know there are almost no watches worth their weight in gold? most people pay 10k 20k, 500k, for a watch because its exclusive, this its a mass produced version of an already mass produced 400 dollar watch.
Tyler Walker it's 18k composite gold, is it pure 18k gold? NO. It has ceramics and other components to make it harder and stronger, does that increase the value and the cost? yes. Is it worth it? Absolutely NO (unless you are climbing the everest with it). like he said a gold watch should be a jewelry item to be irreplaceable and to las for decades especially a gold watch. This watch is an utter utter waste of money!
SnorkFlirt it should last for decades or at least they should service it for a lifetime, most of the wearables that claim luxury prices do, even if rolex or choppard never advertise that their jewelry should last for decades they do. what apple did do was to advertise it as a piece of personal and wearable jewelry which fits it right with the above mentioned.
SnorkFlirt on the video they were impressed with he quality more than anything else. on the other side they shouldn't have made it of gold they have some many luxurious materials that do not cost as much and do no prompt the company to be on the mouth of the world for the wrong reasons. If someone wants it they can buy it no one says they shouldn't, everybody is allowed to do as they like mate.
LOL now they are the most popular watches in the world (literally)!
That anti tarnish sticker is also on the stainless steel ones
Great video !!! Thank you !
If you ever met a Master at anything I assume they would look just like Ali.
What a fascinating and interesting guest. Great video.
TEARDOWN!
75$ internals plated in gold for 5000$ and you get a 50 cent silicone armband with it,very stylish
Apple marketing department is loughing all the day forom how silly their fans are!.
And I didn't know that when you put a charging cradle in a box it makes the box automaticly a build in charger....
for that money Apple could have had spend another one that is really build in.
Nice video, there's some kind of awkwardness in it. It's mind blowing ...why would someone pay so much for this
They don't want you to be able to Service it because they want to charge you to do it themselves
nice to meet you ali :) amazing experience man :)
I'd take the money and put into a dividend fund...
He looks like an old man in avatar the legend of aang, that from air nomad but work for fire nation making some war stuff
Sorry, I was distracted by the majestic beard
I think the $10k Apple Watch is a product that is designed for people who dispose devices without any second thoughts, marketed to people who wanted to use it for life.
If money doesn't matter because you are rich as sh!t, ok. There is still the gold that will be worth something, but probably much less than you paid for.
If you spend 10k$ for a proper mechanical watch by a well known brand it's value is much more stable. Depending on the model it's value may increase over time.
Hold up, it's actual gold
That guy is cool
Around 17.000 $ for this thing? Wow Apple do you really think that you can compare with Rolex and Co.? Lol
This is very educational as this master watch maker tells the truth and I would love to use him as my watch caretaker. You can tell he is full of wisdom. Apple at this point probably feels like dummies for coming out with this dumb watch thinking they could compete with Rolex price points.
Sell me the charging box, I’ll pay whatever.
actually my watch was delivered the same way the guy almost threw it to my face and ran
I knew spending that much on a watch would be a waste of money. The ceramic one out now isn't as bad of an investment. I think Apple wanted money for research and development so they released the overpriced stupid solid gold one.
None of the Apple devices is designed with repair in mind!
its not a watch its a computer lol
No, it's a wearable device...if you looking for wearable computers, check the "android" smartwatches, those are real computers, Linux baby!
It's product you melt down after three years but i'm guessing no one who can afford a throw away $1700 watch is going to recycle it rather throw it in a box and forget it.
2 things: 1: why did he put it one his right hand instead his left (it's said if you do that, your gay but I don't believe that) 2: obviously it's got a heft to it because it's gold and gold is very dense so it's really heavy and heavier than lead
Ali is an impostor he has a samsung
Interesting
+Ricky Stafford Lol
Please don't tear this one down!
Great !!!
10:56 suction cups?
Pineapples.
If anything was worth watching in this video, it was the comment the jeweller made and that was you can have a rolex passed down for generations while the Apple watch seems like a total waste, kudos to that my friend!! Apple just knows how to market their stuff, its surprising to know that there isn't any difference in the sport and gold, expect for some fucking 18 carrot gold, LOL!!
the thing that seemed funny is that when other watch brands have their products hand crafted in countries like Italy and France, etc the Apple watch on the box says, designed in California and made in China, hahahahaha that's so funny!!
That beard......
Epic beard!
I want a beard like that so bad
ASAYousef I'm the opposite. I shave if I see a single stray hair on my face XD
Apple are not exactly environmentally friendly, because they make their products hard to repair and hard to replace batteries.
That is the point that I'm making. If you can't replace the battery without using a heat gun on glue, buying obscure tools and using above average skill for a user, then it is harder to keep the product going. It is also harder to pass/sell it on to others for them to use, after the original owner buys something newer, faster and shinier.
***** Yeah, just look at the iPad 1... support non existent... iOS 5.1.1...
Impressive...glorious beard.
With that price, do yourself a favor and get a real watch
Bet Apple LOVED the fact that 100's of youtube channels bought this to unbox it and send it right back to them. Returning something because you changed your mind is one thing. Buying something with intention to open it use it and return it, just seems unethical to me.
Innovators
Apple Watch Edition is such a rip off
Nope it took a year and then bye bye 🤦🏽♂️