Only .02% of Men in the Navy Qualify to join the Submarine Force a 24/7 job no sunlight ,rain , wind ,contact with loved ones . One of the Best Times of my life. A Brotherhood undivided I would do it again , It was once my life and always be Proud that I am a Submariner
It really was odd how the world seemed to freeze for us. Cut off from everyone, where lifes few joys were buring a flick on the mess deck or waiting in line to have a smoke in Machinery 1, O Hydro
Thank you for you service Paul. I'm also a US Navy Submariner, I served on the USS Pennsylvania SSBN 735. My Dad was also in the Navy, but he wasn't a submariner. He had a hard time at first understanding why I volunteered to go submarine duty, but after he was able to get a tour of my boat, he told me that I was where I belonged, and that he supported me. I became a part of the Silent Service on December 23rd, 2003, and even though I'm no longer serving, I too am still a Submariner. What boat(s) were you stationed on? ET2(SS) Scroggins
My dad spent most of his 30 year career as a submariner, got to go on a tiger cruise when I was 7 for a few days when he was the XO, I remember I was so scared they would forget to seal the hatches my dad told who I assume was the OIC at the time to double check the hatches to make sure they were sealed. It was such a cool experience to live on a sub for a few days even if it was 20 years ago I still remember it vividly.
My dad was Chief Electrician on several subs over 22 years. We got to go on what they called a Family Cruise for a day. I got to be in the control room during some emergency manoevers, look out the periscope, and shoot water slugs. I was probably middle school age, if I remember right. Aside from the queasiness until you dive, it was pretty fun. Sadly, due to accidents the Navy has had since then, they don't let family on board much while underway anymore. We'd go visit dad while he was on duty if he had the overnight watch once in a while as well. Fast attacks, so not much room in any of the compartments or hallways. Stairs were more like ladders. Nothing much like you see in the movies, where most of the subs are the missile subs that are much larger on the inside. I can't imagine doing what my dad did for so long.
Thank you Mr. Hoffman for these documentaries... USS Henry M. Jackson, SSBN-730 Blue Crew 1990-1994, and 20 years in the service, 1987-2008, Retired.... memories....
I knew a former U-Boat Captain and they are not kidding when they say that things can go wrong in a dive. His first trip on a U-Boat the boat went out of control during the first drill and went to the bottom. Fortunately it was not in deep water, only 150'. So they were able to pump out and get up to the surface without a problem. He told me when he heard the Chief say: "Boat is out of control!" he nearly panicked. On his first dive of his own boat they had a similar problem, but got the boat under control and leveled her off. He told me the scariest time was when they were heading back to France and had to run submerged because there were so many British aircraft in the sky and a lot of U-Boats were lost within miles of land. He ordered the boat to be brought up to 30 meters and the boat shot out of the water and broke the surface at 1:30 in the afternoon on a clear day. They got back under, but he said that the Chief said that "We're lucky that the Tommy's don't like to miss lunch."
I have no experience in subs, but I've read extensively - and my Dad with intimate with several members of the U P Submariners Society (with several famous Fleet Boat skippers in it)- and between them, I've come to believe that diving is actually the most dangerous maneuver. Things are on a knife's edge, and just ONE wrong thing can mean a sunken boat.
My dad served in n submarines, from USS Silversides SS 236 a Gato class WW2 diesel boat to USS Scamp SS(N) 588 a Skipjack class fast attack boat. I’m very proud of him, I don’t think I could have done that myself!
All the people here complaining that they are saying ship. They are qualified US Submarine sailors, I guarantee they know more than the armchair generals. The correct term is "Submerge the Ship". It is a boat, but when they submerge they say "submerge the ship"
The enlisted crew of a fast attack submarine always uses "boat" in any informal communication, e.g., "I'm heading back to the boat" or "I've got duty so I'll be sleeping on the boat tonight." What is said in formal directives is a different matter. There is a manual that dictates the exact wording of anything said over the internal communication system.
Old Sub Sailor The old 1946 Navy Blue Jackets manual defines any vessel that can traverse the open sea as a "ship" but a "boat" cannot and has to be carried on deck by the ship. However, a submarine can traverse the open sea and is classified as a ship. Does this make any sense to you folks out there?
After the Challenger disaster, Nasa adopted the Submarine Force QA systems. Think about that. We had better quality control than literal rocket scientists.
To all the soldiers, airmen, seamen and submariners around the world serving the sovereign interests of their respective nations, I offer my most humble and respectful salutes to you respected Sirs and Ladies.
These subs can go to around 1600 feet deep a sperm whale can go 10 times deeper exceeding 10000 feet deep stay down for over an hour on one breath of air that's really amazing.
@@stevejory9679 A Whales engineering is remarkable, yes, but a human's engineering is sufficient to give us the capability of creating nuclear submarines
@Dirt Bear Well not even close...and secondly USA has by far the largest fleet of submarines (not counting North Korea which in paper has more, but how many of them are even operational?), both attack subs and missile subs, over 70 total I believe...
@@larrysmith5522To be fair, the _K-19_ was among the first Soviet nuclear-powered submarines. The Hotels weren't exactly capable boats, not like the Yankess that replaced them. While not much better, the Yankees showed improvement.
20 Years, 1 Month, 14 Days in Submarine Navigation(QM/ET), (1983 - 2003) I'm a proud retired Bubble Head, that's "navy slang" form Submarine Sailors. Served USS Lewis and Clark SSBN 644B, USS Grayling SSN 646, USS LaJolla SSN 701
Hi David, thank you for your service as well. I spent 28 years in the Navy (strangely enough, mostly above the "waterline") and I must tell you that I have never served with a unit that was so tightly knit (esprit-de-corps) and respectful of one another than a submarine crew and I have been part of many units in my career. The submarine crews were different, highly educated and trained, well-behaved (at sea ;-), professional and extremely caring/supportive of each other. I had spent most of my life in squadrons (my submarine stunt was a dissociated tour, I was at the right place at the right time). I learned a lot on her (USS Kamehameha), our Gold Crew was... brilliant (no pun intended)! Peace be with you, Ciao, L
My first time at sea was for sea trials. Wed had some new equipment on the boat and a hole had to be cut into the hull and then welded up again. Our guarantee that it had been done correctly. Those who did the welding came out on sea trials with us 😂
I think the most incredible man made machines ever made are subs. i highly regret not joining a navy crew on a sub. i scored good points for it and i didnt take it
Seen five years after post. 1/26/19 It brings back a since of pride and respect to the Sailor's of the U.S.N. ⚓. We as a nation take so much for granted. To allow the daily freedom of choice, does not come without merits. To all that serves this nation under God and to the people of the United States of America 🇺🇸 we give thanks and prayers for a safe and returnable trip. Amen Navy Chaplain Corp. United States Navy Los Angeles California USA ✔️
To all the soldiers, airmen, seamen and submariners around the world serving the sovereign interests of their respective nations, I offer my most humble and respectful salutes respected Sirs and Ladies.
My teacher in school lost her uncle on the Thresher and later on her brother took part in the recovery of the Challenger she told us that he said there was still debris falling for what seemed like hours during the sweep they only found parts of the fuselage and bits from the SRBs that were blown by the range master
Listen to Captain James Baumstark, a very experienced and wise man. I really enjoyed this video. Thanks,subbed and liked,cos it's free and costs nothing,everyone's a winner !
The submarine is referred to a boat slangly. As in “ I left my wallet on the boat” or “I’m headed to the boat “ or “hey what boat are you on” But during actual operating procedures SHE is refereed to as a ship. As in. “ diving officer, submerge the ship”. Or “ the ship is proceeding to periscope depth” or “ rig ship for lady visitors!!! Or SOP ships operating procedures. NOT , BOP boats operating procedures. Lol Hope this clears it up. TM 2(SS) Thomas USS DACE SSN 607.
"One of only two US Submarines lost since the end of WWII..." Actually, there have been four Submarines lost during that period... two Nukes and two Diesel Boats.
I remember teaching a guy to run a shop. He had come out of the Royal Navy as a Chief Petty Officer, he told me that the Captain of his nuclear boat went to the USA on an exchange and he reckoned that the American service was too reliant on the “book” and not given to using their initiative. He said someone only has to learn your operating procedures and your as good as dead. I am not trying to provoke a them and us argument as I don’t have any experience myself. Just thought it was an experience worth sharing.
The US Navy learned so much, from the loss of Thresher. Permit and other 593 Class boats were tested pierside and a cause was determined. Several systems were redisigned and a new protocol was developed; called SUBSAFE. SUBSAFE is a testing protocol. If a piece doesn't pass the testing procedure, it's not installed. I qualified on USS Jacksonville SSN-699, on November 10, 1993.
The old klaxon dive alarm we so much better sounding. My third boat had the old school klaxon in control and would use that over the 1MC instead of the stupid electronic one
It has been 60 years since I served on the diesel "BOATS". Every one called those old beauties BOATS. Smelly, cramped but crews that tight and dedicated. Fantastic memories. These new nukes are as big as a cruiser so I guess they qualify as ships. I hear they even get to take showers while on patrol. LOL
Been 56 years since I left the Boats....USS Atule (SS403)....diving was two klaxons followed by "dive dive"....surfacing was "surface surface surface" followed by three klaxons. Greatest time of my life. All you old submariners will appreciate "Iife is easy if you're QUALIFIED"!!! Scottie RM1(SS)
@@rickscott646 Don't know if you're still around, your post is 4 years old. I served on the Atule in '68, Key West. Tough, tough duty. 😁 Was Capt. Schlessinger or Willingham your CO? I think those were the names.
+David Hoffman Is there any way to watch the documentary online? I read the reviews about the film from the link you posted and it seems like a total scam, i.e. not documentary, just for starters.
+vaultsuit I am not sure what you mean by your question or your comment. This is a PBS documentary I produced years ago. You can see how to get it in the link in the description above. The complete film is not posted online. I don't know what link you are referring to as my link above links to a description of the film and not a review. David Hoffman-filmmaker
David Hoffman oh sorry, i confused it with amazon - there are reviews on amazon that say that this is not a documentary but a movie with a very shoddy plot about a sub captain who's getting court-martialed...
Thank you for your service! I did 8 patrols on the USS Pennsylvania SSBN 735 from 2002 - 2007. I'll never forget my time on the boat, it will be forever in my memory. ET2(SS) Scroggins
Thank you for your service! I did 8 patrols on the USS Pennsylvania SSBN 735 from 2002 - 2007. I'll never forget my time on the boat, it will be forever in my memory. ET2(SS) Scroggins
Use to watch Dace go up and down the Thames while in new construction at EB. We send two seaman out on a patrol on Dace to get trained up as planesmen for our seatrials in spring 1966.
That really made you feel like you were on a sub. That other alarm was bogus. I miss those days. Way to old now but thank you for the opportunity to have served aboard a United States nuclear submarine.
Hello there, I'm not sure you're going to respond to this, but the Amazon listing is a sold out DVD. Is it possible I can purchase this from you and download it to my computer? I love this snippet from what I've seen here.
The order to submerge is given by the OD,followed by the spoken words "Dive! Dive!" over the 1MC; the Klaxon is sounded twice. When surfacing, the words "Surface! Surface! Surface!" are spoken over the 1MC, followed by sounding the Klaxon three (3) times.
You do not pump water to and from the ballast tanks while submerged. The ballast tanks remain flooded during the dive. Water is pump to and from and between TRIM TANKS during the dive.
Its increidible how this huge several tonne ships go under the wave line so fast, and how peacful the sea looks 2 seconds after it sinks... no clue, no signal, no tell that a several tonne warmachine is right under the foam. No wonder why u-boats were so terrifying, you could be sailing perfectly well, with a clear 180 degree view of the ocean and a sky with no clouds to hide planes. Perfect day to be in the ocean you think, no enemies anywhere near to your location, and if they come close, you'll see them comming. out of nowhere a torpedo hits the ship, the perfectly peacful day turns into chaos, as unprepared sailors scramble to fix whatever breach was made while still baffled to where the torpedoe came from. Then another.. the crew realizes the problem, a german u boat emerges while your ship sinks and the unprepared crew sinks with it. In minutes the ship went from joy and ease to combat to sinking. No warning, no "general quarters" order given as a ship approached, just a loud bang, fire and water comming in... sailors dead before they could even realize what was happening. And this, could be the fate of any ship. Not even a clear sky and clear horizon was a guarantee that you wouldnt die in minutes. Death could come from the most peaceful looking ocean.
Federico Olivares not if my ship USS COOK FF-1083 was around. We were one of the best “sub-busters” in the Pacific fleet. We may be a tin can size wise, but we brought our game 110% every time
@@jeffharder8706 i thought you ment that "any submarine while diving doesnt go undetected if my ship was around" No problem then, have a great day and thanks for serving this great nation!
I know they shout "Dive! Dive! Dive!" When they get ready to submerge... So, do they also shout "Die! Die! Die!" When they get ready to fire a weapon? 😁
i only half listened to the commentary on this video as I was really disappointed that the word "Dive" is in the title 3 times. Submarine operations stipulates the word is used 2 times to initiate that operation. The surfacing operation is initiated by announcing "Surface" 3 times. At least in the video, the actual submariners knew how to do it properly. My qual boat was USS Remora (SS-487). RA
Some very interesting comments from ex-submariners. Can anyone tell me if you're aware of the movement and attitude of the submarine when you're submerged? I guess that in a normal dive or surfacing you're aware of the vessel being somewhat tilting towards bow or stern, but I'm sure I've seen film of a submarine almost leaping out of the water for some reason, and that must be very difficult for the crew inside. And as the submarine starts to break the surface, you must start to be aware of wave motion. When submerged, does the submarine tilt sideways when turning? Thanks for any information from submariners!
As a ex CULINARY SPECIALIST USS HOIST ARS 40 1992...JUST TO GET INTO SUB SCHOOL has extreme QUALIFICATIONS just to go to sub school. And from what I have surmised....THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS MISTAKES SERVING ON A SUB.
"Culinary Specialist"!? You mean a COOK! lol........what do you call garbage men? Waste Extraction and Disposal Engineers"? Dear god, bless our American cousins!
"Take her down, take her deep Make your depth two thousand feet Damn the heat and fuck the pressure Let's go down and join the Thresher!" Michigan Blue 1988-1990
I'm really tempted to join the submariners but just don't know my reaction to being under the depths that amount of time as its not something you can try before you buy with the fear of what if something bad went wrong
@maxrobinson9553 If you are a "worrier", then it's not for you. But really, when on board, you don't realise you're under the water. It's a little cramped, so you need to be quite an easy going character...but generally, service personnel in the Navy are anyway.
Brave men! I worked with an older man back in the early 80s, we drove frito-lay route trucks. He said to me he refused every job that required him to work indoors. Asking why, he told me he ran the engine room of a submarine and in combat, the engine room hatches were closed and a marine stood post above the hatch with orders to shoot-to-kill any man that opened the hatch. He said the depth charges were terrifying. He said he never actually saw the marine and that’s why he is alive, but his crew mates affirmed they were at their posts. After discharge, he vowed to never work inside again.
Only .02% of Men in the Navy Qualify to join the Submarine Force a 24/7 job no sunlight ,rain , wind ,contact with loved ones . One of the Best Times of my life. A Brotherhood undivided I would do it again , It was once my life and always be Proud that I am a Submariner
Really!?
@@Le_8x Ja wirklich?
It really was odd how the world seemed to freeze for us. Cut off from everyone, where lifes few joys were buring a flick on the mess deck or waiting in line to have a smoke in Machinery 1, O Hydro
@@mynamejeff785 , Jeff,die Russen haben das getestet 1,5 Jahre lang
Thank you for you service Paul. I'm also a US Navy Submariner, I served on the USS Pennsylvania SSBN 735. My Dad was also in the Navy, but he wasn't a submariner. He had a hard time at first understanding why I volunteered to go submarine duty, but after he was able to get a tour of my boat, he told me that I was where I belonged, and that he supported me. I became a part of the Silent Service on December 23rd, 2003, and even though I'm no longer serving, I too am still a Submariner. What boat(s) were you stationed on?
ET2(SS) Scroggins
I was on the commissioning crew back in 83. Over 30 years since commissioning, Michigan still continues to serve as a valuable asset to our nation.
I was born in '82, and never served. Yet, I always thank you and the crews you served with so that I didn't _need_ to serve.
My dad spent most of his 30 year career as a submariner, got to go on a tiger cruise when I was 7 for a few days when he was the XO, I remember I was so scared they would forget to seal the hatches my dad told who I assume was the OIC at the time to double check the hatches to make sure they were sealed. It was such a cool experience to live on a sub for a few days even if it was 20 years ago I still remember it vividly.
My dad was Chief Electrician on several subs over 22 years. We got to go on what they called a Family Cruise for a day. I got to be in the control room during some emergency manoevers, look out the periscope, and shoot water slugs. I was probably middle school age, if I remember right. Aside from the queasiness until you dive, it was pretty fun. Sadly, due to accidents the Navy has had since then, they don't let family on board much while underway anymore. We'd go visit dad while he was on duty if he had the overnight watch once in a while as well. Fast attacks, so not much room in any of the compartments or hallways. Stairs were more like ladders. Nothing much like you see in the movies, where most of the subs are the missile subs that are much larger on the inside. I can't imagine doing what my dad did for so long.
When the Kursk went down Australian Submariners paid their heartfelt respects...even on opposing sides...submariners are a band of brothers..!
RIP to all lost submariners trapped, crushed, and drowned. Worst way to die. I hope they’re in a better place now.
very quickly.....- I would lose-my-shit even being in one......
It's not the worst way to die..being irradiated burned alive or being beat to death with a hammer is lots worse.
@@larrysmith5522 eaten alive by bugs or Piranha.
@@larrysmith5522 I am not sure why that made me laugh ..
@@isaacroper2647 Because you're both morons?
My dad is the one saying "Dive Dive". I was 2 years old when they filmed this.
I feel very good that you got to see your dad in this old movie I made.
David Hoffman filmmaker
Chief Lafond was my first chief when I reported aboard back in 1990. Ive some stories.
🥹 That's amazing !!
Thank you Mr. Hoffman for these documentaries... USS Henry M. Jackson, SSBN-730 Blue Crew 1990-1994, and 20 years in the service, 1987-2008, Retired.... memories....
Old time fast boat sailor here, Chief Rutherford the diving officer was a shipmate of mine back when, Thanks for the memories David
Same here... aboard USS Flasher
Same here USS Sturgeon 637
I served with QM2 Rutherford late 70's on Sam Houston 609B. I was a SINS tech.
My dad served on the USS Ohio in the 90s and really early 2000s. He's told me so many stories about life on board.
I was on the Georgia around that time. Ask him if he remembers the name, "Oh-hydro"
Small World! Ask your Dad if he knew me. I was on the Gold Crew 96-2001.
My god...submarines are so damn graceful.
And sinister!
They are the spaceships of the ocean.
Navy ocean launches missiles and some of them have failed of to launch missiles in the war
Dont blaspheme
Hard to be stealthy if you're clumsy.
My grandfather was a navigator on SSBN 654 George C. Marshall. Spent his naval career in a sub. Can't imagine doing that job myself.
I knew a former U-Boat Captain and they are not kidding when they say that things can go wrong in a dive. His first trip on a U-Boat the boat went out of control during the first drill and went to the bottom. Fortunately it was not in deep water, only 150'. So they were able to pump out and get up to the surface without a problem. He told me when he heard the Chief say: "Boat is out of control!" he nearly panicked. On his first dive of his own boat they had a similar problem, but got the boat under control and leveled her off. He told me the scariest time was when they were heading back to France and had to run submerged because there were so many British aircraft in the sky and a lot of U-Boats were lost within miles of land. He ordered the boat to be brought up to 30 meters and the boat shot out of the water and broke the surface at 1:30 in the afternoon on a clear day. They got back under, but he said that the Chief said that "We're lucky that the Tommy's don't like to miss lunch."
I almost missed the U-boat part. I assumed he was with the allies. Which boat was he with?
I have no experience in subs, but I've read extensively - and my Dad with intimate with several members of the U P Submariners Society (with several famous Fleet Boat skippers in it)- and between them, I've come to believe that diving is actually the most dangerous maneuver. Things are on a knife's edge, and just ONE wrong thing can mean a sunken boat.
Now i know where the Cold Waters Ultimate Mod guys have the "Dive dive" sound from :D
This was filmed in 1989.
The haircuts made me suspect as much.
Imagine how advanced the technology is now...
Through a potato 🥔🎥
No shit
My dad served in n submarines, from USS Silversides SS 236 a Gato class WW2 diesel boat to USS Scamp SS(N) 588 a Skipjack class fast attack boat. I’m very proud of him, I don’t think I could have done that myself!
All the people here complaining that they are saying ship. They are qualified US Submarine sailors, I guarantee they know more than the armchair generals. The correct term is "Submerge the Ship". It is a boat, but when they submerge they say "submerge the ship"
The terms ship and boat are interchangeable when it comes to submarines.
The enlisted crew of a fast attack submarine always uses "boat" in any informal communication, e.g., "I'm heading back to the boat" or "I've got duty so I'll be sleeping on the boat tonight." What is said in formal directives is a different matter. There is a manual that dictates the exact wording of anything said over the internal communication system.
Correct ^
Boat is a generic term for any type of vessel. Submarines are very much generic as they create their own branch of naval vessels.
Old Sub Sailor The old 1946 Navy Blue Jackets manual defines any vessel that can traverse the open sea as a "ship" but a "boat" cannot and has to be carried on deck by the ship. However, a submarine can traverse the open sea and is classified as a ship. Does this make any sense to you folks out there?
I'm amazed at how quickly the surface returns to being calm as soon as the ship is underwater. A real disappearing act
After the Challenger disaster, Nasa adopted the Submarine Force QA systems. Think about that. We had better quality control than literal rocket scientists.
To all the soldiers, airmen, seamen and submariners around the world serving the sovereign interests of their respective nations, I offer my most humble and respectful salutes to you respected Sirs and Ladies.
And soon space cadets.
That Captain is square jawed af and serious! Mad respect to these men!
m.b.keef
Spent 14 years on British submarines from 76 to 90 so know this all to well RIP fellow submariners taken by the deep
Spent 25 years on Russian submarines from 76 to 01 I always was nearby you and your brave fellows.
These subs can go to around 1600 feet deep a sperm whale can go 10 times deeper exceeding 10000 feet deep stay down for over an hour on one breath of air that's really amazing.
Whale is 10000 times smaller and don't have empty spaces filled with air inside :)
@Chad Mower yes, a whales engineering is truly mind blowing.
@@stevejory9679 A Whales engineering is remarkable, yes, but a human's engineering is sufficient to give us the capability of creating nuclear submarines
Our subs can go a lot more deeper than 1600. 1600 is just the safe number. The real number is a secret, but it is probable around 1 mile.
@@baccamafia4363, I take it the H80 steel used in their construction, I think, gives a clue.
H80 steel is supposed to be good to 80,000 psi.
This piece of machinery is the reason no one fucks with us. I love it!
richgg2 u know almost every country has submarines
Amen. The Russians have gotten better but they still can't fuck with us.
@@TheTRAINOR11 like the k19?
@Dirt Bear Well not even close...and secondly USA has by far the largest fleet of submarines (not counting North Korea which in paper has more, but how many of them are even operational?), both attack subs and missile subs, over 70 total I believe...
@@larrysmith5522To be fair, the _K-19_ was among the first Soviet nuclear-powered submarines. The Hotels weren't exactly capable boats, not like the Yankess that replaced them. While not much better, the Yankees showed improvement.
20 Years, 1 Month, 14 Days in Submarine Navigation(QM/ET), (1983 - 2003) I'm a proud retired Bubble Head, that's "navy slang" form Submarine Sailors. Served USS Lewis and Clark SSBN 644B, USS Grayling SSN 646, USS LaJolla SSN 701
Hi David, thank you for this great video clip - brings back a lot of memories from younger days on SSBN-642. Thank you for the memories, Ciao, L
I want to thank you for your service-incredible service I know because I filmed it-and for commenting on my film. David Hoffman-filmmaker
Hi David, thank you for your service as well. I spent 28 years in the Navy (strangely enough, mostly above the "waterline") and I must tell you that I have never served with a unit that was so tightly knit (esprit-de-corps) and respectful of one another than a submarine crew and I have been part of many units in my career. The submarine crews were different, highly educated and trained, well-behaved (at sea ;-), professional and extremely caring/supportive of each other. I had spent most of my life in squadrons (my submarine stunt was a dissociated tour, I was at the right place at the right time).
I learned a lot on her (USS Kamehameha), our Gold Crew was... brilliant (no pun intended)! Peace be with you, Ciao, L
David Hoffman : THANKS, FOR THE RIDE ALONG, I'VE LEARNED A GREAT DEAL. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I served on SSBN-645.. Polk. Blue crew 1975-1981. Great crew, great missions.
I served on SSBN-630 Gold Crew>
Thanks for posting that. Was a QM2 onboard during that time. Good to see.
No QM2.
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker not sure I understand your comment.
My first time at sea was for sea trials. Wed had some new equipment on the boat and a hole had to be cut into the hull and then welded up again. Our guarantee that it had been done correctly. Those who did the welding came out on sea trials with us 😂
I think the most incredible man made machines ever made are subs. i highly regret not joining a navy crew on a sub. i scored good points for it and i didnt take it
The thumbnail looked like eminem spittin bars over a mic
Seen five years after post. 1/26/19
It brings back a since of pride and respect to the Sailor's of the U.S.N. ⚓.
We as a nation take so much for granted. To allow the daily freedom of choice, does not come without merits.
To all that serves this nation under God and to the people of the United States of America 🇺🇸 we give thanks and prayers for a safe and returnable trip. Amen
Navy Chaplain Corp. United States Navy
Los Angeles California USA ✔️
To all the soldiers, airmen, seamen and submariners around the world serving the sovereign interests of their respective nations, I offer my most humble and respectful salutes respected Sirs and Ladies.
So much respect for these sub guys
0:37 is the best part
Kind of a weak alarm. Major let down.
@@swainer8014 swagu?
I’m glad the video showed the proper command, “Dive Dive!” Not dive dive dive
My teacher in school lost her uncle on the Thresher and later on her brother took part in the recovery of the Challenger she told us that he said there was still debris falling for what seemed like hours during the sweep they only found parts of the fuselage and bits from the SRBs that were blown by the range master
Listen to Captain James Baumstark,
a very experienced and wise man.
I really enjoyed this video.
Thanks,subbed and liked,cos it's free and costs nothing,everyone's a winner !
The submarine is referred to a boat slangly. As in “ I left my wallet on the boat” or “I’m headed to the boat “ or “hey what boat are you on”
But during actual operating procedures SHE is refereed to as a ship. As in. “ diving officer, submerge the ship”. Or “ the ship is proceeding to periscope depth” or “ rig ship for lady visitors!!!
Or SOP ships operating procedures. NOT , BOP boats operating procedures. Lol
Hope this clears it up.
TM 2(SS) Thomas
USS DACE SSN 607.
Michael... exactly!
What about COB (chief of the boat)?
It always bugs me when they refer to submarines as ships. I was taught years ago (RAN) that one “goes ONTO a ship” or “gets INTO a boat”
Nice! I saw this documentary on NOVA back in the day (1992?). It ruled then and it rules now
"One of only two US Submarines lost since the end of WWII..."
Actually, there have been four Submarines lost during that period... two Nukes and two Diesel Boats.
which ones?
@@joepiet Cochino (1949), Thresher (1963), Scorpion (1968) and Stickleback (1958)
we need more submarine thrillers
Instantaneous like from me because it is the U.S.S. Michigan 😄
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I need this dive alarm in my life 0:56
I like this video very much... Dive... Dive...
My total respect for the Silent Service
Thanks Brothers 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Cold Waters Epic Mod crew voice
cold waters anyone? that 'dive dive' etc, we now know where that was sampled from!
I remember teaching a guy to run a shop. He had come out of the Royal Navy as a Chief Petty Officer, he told me that the Captain of his nuclear boat went to the USA on an exchange and he reckoned that the American service was too reliant on the “book” and not given to using their initiative. He said someone only has to learn your operating procedures and your as good as dead. I am not trying to provoke a them and us argument as I don’t have any experience myself. Just thought it was an experience worth sharing.
In their defense if you two fatal mishaps like the Thresher and Scorpion, you'd rely on the book too.
"Dive! Dive!" Whoooooooop! Whooooooooop! "Dive! Dive!"
That's only applicable to aircraft
Pull up! . . . .Pull up!
The US Navy learned so much, from the loss of Thresher. Permit and other 593 Class boats were tested pierside and a cause was determined. Several systems were redisigned and a new protocol was developed; called SUBSAFE. SUBSAFE is a testing protocol. If a piece doesn't pass the testing procedure, it's not installed. I qualified on USS Jacksonville SSN-699, on November 10, 1993.
Bubblehead on two sturgeon class subs Pargo and Seahorse. Greatest points in my naval career
German Version: *ALARM!!!!*
I served with the diving officer, Chief Rutherford. On USS Flasher (SSN 613) 1977-81
Greetings fellow Permit Class Vet from SSN-605.
And another SSN 615
I served from 64 to 72. NPTU class of 65.2-10. Ssbn634gold and ssn590.
The old klaxon dive alarm we so much better sounding. My third boat had the old school klaxon in control and would use that over the 1MC instead of the stupid electronic one
Agree. I was a Nav ET, and one of my Chiefs had a klaxon that he would plug in for our initial dives. Sometimes, newer doesn't always mean better.
It has been 60 years since I served on the diesel "BOATS". Every one called those old beauties BOATS. Smelly, cramped but crews that tight and dedicated. Fantastic memories. These new nukes are as big as a cruiser so I guess they qualify as ships. I hear they even get to take showers while on patrol. LOL
Been 56 years since I left the Boats....USS Atule (SS403)....diving was two klaxons followed by "dive dive"....surfacing was "surface surface surface" followed by three klaxons. Greatest time of my life. All you old submariners will appreciate "Iife is easy if you're QUALIFIED"!!! Scottie RM1(SS)
@@rickscott646 Don't know if you're still around, your post is 4 years old. I served on the Atule in '68, Key West. Tough, tough duty. 😁 Was Capt. Schlessinger or Willingham your CO? I think those were the names.
Respect
Thomas - You are correct.
David Hoffman - filmmaker
+Thomas Long
- Yes Stacy Keach sans coke addiction...
+David Hoffman Is there any way to watch the documentary online? I read the reviews about the film from the link you posted and it seems like a total scam, i.e. not documentary, just for starters.
+vaultsuit I am not sure what you mean by your question or your comment. This is a PBS documentary I produced years ago. You can see how to get it in the link in the description above. The complete film is not posted online. I don't know what link you are referring to as my link above links to a description of the film and not a review.
David Hoffman-filmmaker
David Hoffman oh sorry, i confused it with amazon - there are reviews on amazon that say that this is not a documentary but a movie with a very shoddy plot about a sub captain who's getting court-martialed...
Brimgs back many memories, On Uss Daniel Boone (SSBN-629) in the 70's, made 8 patrols
Thank you for your service! I did 8 patrols on the USS Pennsylvania SSBN 735 from 2002 - 2007. I'll never forget my time on the boat, it will be forever in my memory.
ET2(SS) Scroggins
Thank you for your service! I did 8 patrols on the USS Pennsylvania SSBN 735 from 2002 - 2007. I'll never forget my time on the boat, it will be forever in my memory.
ET2(SS) Scroggins
QM2SS USSDACE607. A poweful fast attack. We had top crew out of New London. Hats off for Captain Richard Kadlic proud to serve under his command.
Use to watch Dace go up and down the Thames while in new construction at EB. We send two seaman out on a patrol on Dace to get trained up as planesmen for our seatrials in spring 1966.
i really miss the AWOOOGA klaxon
It's still used.
Great to hear that it's still used!
"Dive! Dive!" AWOOOOOOOOGA! AWOOOOOOOGA!
That really made you feel like you were on a sub. That other alarm was bogus. I miss those days. Way to old now but thank you for the opportunity to have served aboard a United States nuclear submarine.
I wonder how many lessons we learned from decades of submarine construction and operation that went into the space program.
The Quite Sea Vipers, able to strike anywhere, with deadly Force!
Submarines once! Submarines twice!
Hello there, I'm not sure you're going to respond to this, but the Amazon listing is a sold out DVD. Is it possible I can purchase this from you and download it to my computer? I love this snippet from what I've seen here.
Please contact my office with your request at allinaday@aol.com.
David Hoffman filmmaker
Yes you'll deepen your voice like the crew did when they gave each other the word dive dive trying to convince yourself this isn't happening.
Even though submarines are one of the coolest things in this world i would never want to be inside that death trap under water :P
The order to submerge is given by the OD,followed by the spoken words "Dive! Dive!" over the 1MC; the Klaxon is sounded twice. When surfacing, the words "Surface! Surface! Surface!" are spoken over the 1MC, followed by sounding the Klaxon three (3) times.
No need to sound alrm on routine surfacing... only on Emergency Surfacing
Water isn’t pumped from the ballast tanks, they are pumped to and from trim tanks located throughout the boat.
Spent a good part of my youth punching holes in the ocean God Bless the crews , long live the memory of the USS JAMES K POLK SSBN 645
Polk shared the barge next to us (Flasher SSN 613) in New Construction at EB in 65/66 knew a bunch of the crew.
The boomer I was on had a hovering system.
High risk, an unenviable position down there.
You do not pump water to and from the ballast tanks while submerged. The ballast tanks remain flooded during the dive. Water is pump to and from and between TRIM TANKS during the dive.
Michael. Trim Tanks are properly referred to as VARIABLE Ballast Tanks
@@SaltiDawg2008 Michael's right...trim tanks. They are for varying ballast, but called trim tanks
@@joepiet Nonsense. Read the posts. I served for 24 yeras on five boats - three SSNs and two SSs.
Is that Eminem on the coms? 🎤 🤔
Its increidible how this huge several tonne ships go under the wave line so fast, and how peacful the sea looks 2 seconds after it sinks... no clue, no signal, no tell that a several tonne warmachine is right under the foam. No wonder why u-boats were so terrifying, you could be sailing perfectly well, with a clear 180 degree view of the ocean and a sky with no clouds to hide planes. Perfect day to be in the ocean you think, no enemies anywhere near to your location, and if they come close, you'll see them comming. out of nowhere a torpedo hits the ship, the perfectly peacful day turns into chaos, as unprepared sailors scramble to fix whatever breach was made while still baffled to where the torpedoe came from. Then another.. the crew realizes the problem, a german u boat emerges while your ship sinks and the unprepared crew sinks with it. In minutes the ship went from joy and ease to combat to sinking. No warning, no "general quarters" order given as a ship approached, just a loud bang, fire and water comming in... sailors dead before they could even realize what was happening.
And this, could be the fate of any ship. Not even a clear sky and clear horizon was a guarantee that you wouldnt die in minutes. Death could come from the most peaceful looking ocean.
Federico Olivares not if my ship USS COOK FF-1083 was around. We were one of the best “sub-busters” in the Pacific fleet. We may be a tin can size wise, but we brought our game 110% every time
@@jeffharder8706 yeah, o bet y'all are/were great, but i'm talking about the U-Boats in WWII before anti submarine tech existed pretty much at all
Federico Olivares dude, that’s why I said “IF we were around...” I know there wasn’t any ASW going on during WWII
@@jeffharder8706 i thought you ment that "any submarine while diving doesnt go undetected if my ship was around"
No problem then, have a great day and thanks for serving this great nation!
What is truly harsh is there are not enough heads and showers for the crew.
I know they shout "Dive! Dive! Dive!" When they get ready to submerge... So, do they also shout "Die! Die! Die!" When they get ready to fire a weapon? 😁
Is that M.B.Keef? What a character on San Francisco!!
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i only half listened to the commentary on this video as I was really disappointed that the word "Dive" is in the title 3 times. Submarine operations stipulates the word is used 2 times to initiate that operation. The surfacing operation is initiated by announcing "Surface" 3 times. At least in the video, the actual submariners knew how to do it properly. My qual boat was USS Remora (SS-487).
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Some very interesting comments from ex-submariners. Can anyone tell me if you're aware of the movement and attitude of the submarine when you're submerged? I guess that in a normal dive or surfacing you're aware of the vessel being somewhat tilting towards bow or stern, but I'm sure I've seen film of a submarine almost leaping out of the water for some reason, and that must be very difficult for the crew inside. And as the submarine starts to break the surface, you must start to be aware of wave motion. When submerged, does the submarine tilt sideways when turning? Thanks for any information from submariners!
Yes, you can feel the boat turn when going fast or changing depth quickly. Seas have to be really rough to feel anything below PD.
@@FLYSUBS89 Many thanks!
that’s my dad on the radio saying “dive dive” !!!!
Just to prove you are not pulling my leg, what boat was he on?
David Hoffman filmmaker
Narrated by Stacy Keach! 😎
As a ex CULINARY SPECIALIST USS HOIST ARS 40 1992...JUST TO GET INTO SUB SCHOOL has extreme QUALIFICATIONS just to go to sub school. And from what I have surmised....THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS MISTAKES SERVING ON A SUB.
"Culinary Specialist"!? You mean a COOK! lol........what do you call garbage men? Waste Extraction and Disposal Engineers"? Dear god, bless our American cousins!
Anyone know what prototype Capt. Keff went to? He looks familiar.
Hey I’m from Michigan and it’s a nuclear Michigan class sub! Yay!
Actually it's an Ohio class sub, second in it's class too be exact, served on her in the 80's.
You will look serious as hell too like the crew diving under very deep ocean powerful water all that pressure surrounding you.
Correct the title. It's 2 "dive" 3 "surface"
Hey Hoffman.....it is DIVE, DIVE Only 2 Dives. Only the movies and the media get that wrong. which are you?
That diving alarm has a Serious case of Asthma, eh??
mistake in the titel - only 2 times "dive"
It appears fixed.
You might want to spell title correctly, or risk “mistake in the comment - titel isn’t a word” replies.
"Take her down, take her deep
Make your depth two thousand feet
Damn the heat and fuck the pressure
Let's go down and join the Thresher!"
Michigan Blue 1988-1990
You think this is funny? Moron!
Was that Eminem’s lost uncle on the thumbnail?
Qualified 1991 on SSN 694
My great uncle designed the coolant system on the submarine class the thresher was in
He was on the uss permit the second ship in the clas was the thresher was in and was the thresher class untill it sank
Don't O-5 Commanders command SSBNs? Or do they have to have a O-6 Captain?
Not the same diving alarm as when I was in.........miss the boats.USS Barbel SS580USS Patrick Henry SSBN599B
The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't
I'm really tempted to join the submariners but just don't know my reaction to being under the depths that amount of time as its not something you can try before you buy with the fear of what if something bad went wrong
@maxrobinson9553 If you are a "worrier", then it's not for you. But really, when on board, you don't realise you're under the water. It's a little cramped, so you need to be quite an easy going character...but generally, service personnel in the Navy are anyway.
Only 2 "Dive, Dive"
why was eminem on the thumbnail
Brave men! I worked with an older man back in the early 80s, we drove frito-lay route trucks. He said to me he refused every job that required him to work indoors. Asking why, he told me he ran the engine room of a submarine and in combat, the engine room hatches were closed and a marine stood post above the hatch with orders to shoot-to-kill any man that opened the hatch. He said the depth charges were terrifying. He said he never actually saw the marine and that’s why he is alive, but his crew mates affirmed they were at their posts. After discharge, he vowed to never work inside again.
*Nonsense! s/ Retired 24 year US Navy Submariner.*