Honda Ignition Key Won't Turn: Steering Lock Assembly Replacement and Immobilizer Programming
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2018
- In this video, I show you how I replace a Steering Lock Assembly on a Honda and reprogram the Immobilizer system. This procedure is very similar on many Hondas with an ignition key. The exact vehicle in this video is a 2003 Honda Civic EX sedan.
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with those two headless bolts out why not grrind a slot in each one afterwards so you can just use a flat head screw driver if it happens again !!!
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@@EpicGamingEct Because you make a mess grinding stuff inside the car and those are security bolts. The head shears off to keep people (thieves) from easily removing the ignition/steering lock. If you want someone to defeat the lock with common tools in the future, you might as well use common bolts from the hardware store instead of the supplied shear bolts - no mess from grinding and easier to use a ratchet and socket than a flat head screwdriver.
@@killer2600 no Epic is saying with the bolts out of the vehicle then grind a slot for replacement. I may try that but have some new spec bolts on order too. I have seen that suggestion on the Ridgeline forum too.
This is probably the most SPOT on video I've seen in a while! VERY detailed and perfect!! I had the same issue with a 2004 CR-V and BAM...new ignition switch installed! THANK YOU!!!!!!
Glad it helped!
Thanks. It was two weeks between disassembly, re-keying and re-addembly for me. Your clear information about two "wood-type screws at the top and one machine screw at the bottom" for the steering column cowling cover was very helpful as it's dark and cramped in the foot well. I filed the catching pawl off the sticking wafer and left it in the lock non-functionally so that I didn't lose it for possible re-furbishment later (hopefully avoiding having to re-key the locks). Thanks again.
Thank you thank you thank you!! I’ve got a 2004 odyssey. It’s a little bit different than the one you showed but close enough. You explained/showed every step really well and your voice was easy to follow. Great job!
I actually took it a step further and went into the lock cylinder and removed the damaged parts. I couldn’t have figured out how to get it off without your video. Thanks again!
Glad it helped, thanks for the comment!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video! My mom's crv is doing this and don't trust the repair places to treat her right.... sucks that two keys will be needed moving forward, may check with the locksmith. Much appreciated!
Thank you very much for this. I removed my lock cylinder thanks to your instructions and had a locksmith repair it for $40. It probably saved me a couple hundred dollars.
He removed the assembly not the cylinder
Your locksmith repaired it and it worked ??
Worked like a charm. Did it on a CR-V and re-used the immobilizer, programmed the keys with my scan tool and running great! Great video...appreciate your work!
Great explanations of the steps involved. Any one who owns this car will be well ahead of the game if they watch this video.
Thank you Wyatt!
Agreed! Great video and repair.
Working around any airbag system I always wait awhile (10 minutes or so) to make sure it has powered down. Good video as always Dave.
Thanks MIke!
[2004 HONDA CIVIC EX] Can't tell you how helpful this video was in solving my issue. The dealer wanted $1400 (parts and labor) and O'Reilys wanted $850 (part only). Amazon had the part for $60 but not 100% compatible but got the job done. Thank you again and highly recommend anyone who needs a cheap fix
You saved me I was stuck in a supermarket yard this was really nice I appreciate your help
Not only was this video very informative, it was very well produced. Great images, camera angles, techniques and explanations. 5 Stars! *****
Clear and straight to the point . Easy to understand. Awesome video .
Thank god , finally a Video telling people to disconnect the battery terminal first. Listen to his advice.. take care and stay safe
You might need your radio code
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Thank you. I used your video to fix my steering lock today.
I am working on a 2008 Ridgeline here in 2024. My Ridgeline steering column may be a bit more complicated but this gives me hope. This is the most thoro video I have found - especially about how to get to and remove the housing. I live in very remote Alaska - no Honda dealers not lock smiths. I hope to remove the whole housing and take it to a locksmith to rebuild using a good original key. I'll have to trash the worn key. But you explained both options - very very good thank you.
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Thank you very much sir. Saved me a ton of bucks having the dealership pull this off and put it back on.
I was lucky enough to have mine rebuilt, so no new programming.
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Great info on the srs unit. I watched a few videos and they didn't do that. This is my number 1 now, thank you sir.
Thank you, I appreciate the comment!
Thanx, now i got a fun project to do this weekend.
The trick at 2:00 worked!!! My 03 Odyssey key would NOT turn (after weeks of fiddling with it to get it to work, it just stopped completely). So I borrowed a friend's Pilot key, stuck it about halfway in, and my key worked right away! Now I'm just going to keep it in the ignition and lock the doors from the outside :). Thank you!!!
Glad it helped, thanks for the comment!
@@BigDog50001 Thanks for the video! Today I screwed up and turned the key back to the 0 start position, and now the key won't work again and the trick doesn't work anymore :(.Tried with the same friend's Pilot key and a co-worker's Civic key.
This was a great video, for me the tumblers were worn but with the new ignition module I switched the new tumbler with the old ignition and it still would not turn, the whole module was shot. Thanks for the video, it's great to have my car back!
You can also order the lock tumblers on the internet for honda and change the tumblers to match your original key or get a locksmith to do this and then you have one key that does it all
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advice on using spare key worked for me .. thank you from the future (past)
Great video. A friend of mine just brought his CRV into the dealer for this repair. $1400.
YES!!! Thank you so much for providing info on how to get to the switch housing bolts and how to get it off. Too many videos just show working on the switch with the housing already removed from the steering colurm. Thank you!!
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This is an excellent video esp for those that aren't very mechanical. I do like to know what I"m paying for when work is done.
Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it!
Thank you!!! You just saved me hundreds of dollars!!!
Thanks bro I was running late for work 👌👌
Glad it helped!
Thank you BIG DOG!!
I literally just used your method to unjam my ignition. I didn't have any 10w40 but I had some pink Oil hair glosser with the same consistency that did the trick. I own a 2002 LX 470 and I didn't want to invest in a new assembly so I'm very excited about this.
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You Sir are a hero. Thanks for the video!
Thanks 👍!
Loved the video this just happened to my car I had a question. Can I reuse the old immobilizer with the new ignition and new keys and just have the dealership reprogram the new keys and ignition to old immobilizer? Thank you!
Thank you for the info on the air bag having an internal electric source. The 3 minute wait period. As always great info and excellent video thanks 👍👍
Thank you!
Great content!! Thanks much!!
Does the immobilizer unit, pcb, go bad and/or does it control or talk to original remote key to unlock the ignition? Thanks
A trick with those sheer bolts that a locksmith taught me. Take a drimel or like tool (small grinder cutting tool) and cut slots in the head straight across and you can take them out (or in) with a flat head screw driver.
That is another way, just have to be careful with metal shavings that might get everywhere. Thanks for the input!
Excellent video. I did a honda Fit 2016 model. The two break off bolts are REVERSE thread on the honda 2016 Fit model. I used a chisel and hammer for many hours and they would not turn because i was chiseling them counter clockwise. I realized this after drilling them out.
Had i known that they are reverse thread i wouldn't of drilled them out and had to purchase 2 more bolts off ebay etc
Good video.
If i was to do it again i would find the compressed pin and remove it only and replace just the key area. I couldnt find the pin as it was different from all the videos being a 2016 Honda Fit and ended up doing it the hardest way. I found the removal pin location after the whole unit was removed.
Thanks for the comment!
OMG I'm about to work on a 2008 Ridgeline. I will keep in mind I may have reverse threads!!!! Damn Honda makes all this stuff so bloody secure but insists on usind crappy lock cylinders!!!! Makes no sense to me.
Thank you bro just what I needed to hear thumbs up!
Thanks 👍!
Exelente video desde Honduras me sirvió mucho ver este tutorial saludos y thanks
Found the key I was told only un lock the door and the gas tank , but I actually started the car as well. Didn’t have a Key Fob but it works
I just want to say thank you..My tumblr crapped out 30 minutes away...I used the door key,WD40 and pipe cleaner to get the ignition to turn..None of it makes any sense..Worked thru every quarter turn for the key?..My key wont come out but the car starts like nothing..I have to say thank you
Alternate idea that may work for some. I had a locksmith come and make a key without programming it. He put the key on vice grips an worked it into the ignition cylinder. It took some work but he was able to re break the cylinder and my original key worked again. It was only $100 dollars to make a copy of the key and for his time. Well worth it. Have not had any issues since and I keep the spare in case I need to rework the cylinder to match the key cut.
Thanks for the input!
What does this mean exactly? That he cranked that key until something broke in the ignition?
Awesome video very well done!! Quick question I have a Smartbox Auto from Hillman, will that program the new key or what kind of programmer do I need to finish?
Thank you very much for this info! Really helps
Great video big help thank you so much
I appreciate the comment, thanks!
Life saver i just wiggle it and it worked saved me some bucks.....
Hey bud quick question for ya. My key wont go all the way in to turn. Last few days it’s been sticking. I tried wd40, jiggling, turning wheel, nothing worked. I accidentally locked the wheel. I’m trying to pull the plastics to get to the tumbler but can’t get to last screw behind wheel. Is there a way to unlock the steer wheel without the key? It’s a 2012 Honda CRV I appreciate any help
Great video! Have you done any ckp variation relearn with this scan tool? Looking into buying my first scan tool.
Thank you. I have not had to do a CKP learn with this scan tool, many Hondas can be done without it. This Autel is a good scan tool and I would recommend it highly.
Thanks to you I did it! Thank you.
Thanks for sharing. I assume this would this be the same for a 2009 Civic?
Great video… you are a beast sir!
Thanks bro. Very well explained.
hi the blows are given in the center of the screw or on the sides of the screw
Excellent video BD. I am not an auto mechanic but i will change this thing out tomorrow in my car. Is there any way to get the keys programmed before installing. Can you rent that scan tool. Would an auto parts store where i buy the ignition have 1 to use? Thanks again BD, Killer video. Do you have any videosd for the rear door lock on a 2005 crv. The lock spun a bit and its not mechanical. I cant even get the door open now.
I am not aware of being able to rent a scan tool capable of programming these or programming beforehand. Another (cheaper) option is take lock assembly out and have a locksmith fix the lock cylinder. Generally when this is done it avoids the programming and you can still use the old key. I don't have any CR-V lock videos. Thanks for the comment!
Awesome video. Only question I wanted to ask is why not replace only the ignition lock cylinder vs the whole assembly? Is there a test you could do first?
Might as well do the whole thing due to cylinder in this mechanism and probably close to same price. I’ve done partials of repairs before only to have to go back and do whole thing due to rest is old as well. Listen to end of video, he talks about cylinder also
eBay has the whole switch like you showed......$70 bucks. I took mine out and was about to take out all the tumblers in the lock so I could still drive it while waiting for new one. Also so I could take it to get the keys programed and not have to have it towed. Easy.
Hopefully it is decent quality, thanks for the input!
My civic is currently stuck in a parking lot with same problem and I'm trying to at least get the steering unlocked.. Was this procedure done with steering unlocked already via using that other key the way you did to get it going and in the garage? I guess my question is will I still be able to get it off if steering is locked? I have no access to another same gen honda key.
Before when it started getting jammed, the hard part was turning it enough to get the steering unlocked then key turned fine between off/1/2 (or like off 90% off- i wasnt quite pulling it all the way back but enough to cut power to radio etc). If I take the assy off, and depress the steering lock "button" that slides up, I am hoping to be able to turn the key forward again. I wouldnt even mind blocking that button somehow so the steering never locks again ( until I get it fixed properly but I am just trying to get going for now.. )
Big Dog..Im havin same issue on my 2003...Im the beginning of the video you show the key being able to turn..was that with the trick with using the other key..I tried that still no joy...Should I get a locksmith first then purchase the new ignition assembly? Awesome video by the way
So at the ending where u could take to a locksmith to repair…And they did so how would u put the sheer bolts back on after chiseling the off??….maybe get new ones…after watching this video everything seemed very informative.Thanks just had those couple questions Thanksn
great video! If I replace the assembly with a used part from a junkyard, will i still have to reprogram it?
Yes, thanks for the comment!
not if you use the key that goes with it. Then you'll have a key for the doors and trunk and one for the ignition.
Very nice! Thanks!
hay Big Dog nice vid. Quick question. I have a 07 Honda fit. Ignition started not working so I got a new one. Well actually a salvaged one. Complete ignition. Is it going to work ok in my car or will I have to reprogram it? Thanks
Also wondering the same
What is the price for the oem parts? Why u didn’t program manually ?
Chuu you just saved my ass bro thanks!!!
Wow OLD video but very HELPFUL THANK YOU
Glad it was helpful, thanks for watching!
@@BigDog50001 YES i just finished doing it today and it now works THANKS AGAIN 👏👋✌️
Do you where you can get another immobilizer chip? I tossed it out when I replaced my shell not thinking the buttons is what part that starts the car.
Hey bro I have a question ok I replaced my starter and my car still won’t crank unless I keep trying and trying is it my ignition switch?
Good job.... 👍
Thanks!
Now question my good sir!! If I go and get a 05’ Honda ignition cylinder hub.. will the same key work in this ignition cylinder? Same year model accord .. just trying to figure for the solution.. before doing it.. thx much and let’s stay geared up car gurus
Can I have the link for that scan tool? And can you do a video on how to use it. Thanks
Scan Tool: amzn.to/2zVDSSF
do you still have to reprogram the keys if arent replacing the part just bringing it to a locksmith?
Can you explain what you did with the scan tool when you said that we have to tell the ecm that there is a new immobilizer installed. Great video. Thank you
The replacement parts contained a new Immobilizer unit and new Immobilizer key, both need to be programmed to PCM of vehicle (all three communicate together). The Immobilizer has to be programmed first ("tell the ECM there is a new Immobilizer") and then the same programming is done a second time for the key. So basically what I was doing at that time was programming the new Immobilizer that was part of the new steering lock assembly to the vehicle's PCM. Thanks for the comment!
@@BigDog50001 SO IF I LEAVE THE OLD IMMOBILIZER AND ONLY CHANGE THE CYLINDER AND KEYS DO I HAVE TO USE THE PROGRAMMING TOOL OR WILL THE OLD IMMOBILIZER PROGRAM THE NEW KEY? ALSO WHAT IF I JUST CHANGED THE WHOLE STEERING COLUMN WITH WORKING KEY AND EVERYTHING WOULD I STILL HAVE TO DO ANY PROGRAMMING? CAN YOU SHOW A WAY TO CHANGE THE KEY WITHOUT PROGRAMMING?
What was the part called that you ordered? I installed a new lock cylinder but it didn’t work, I think i need that whole part that you unboxed
Thanks for your help
CARLOS GODFREY Thank you for the comment!
So I know what to expect, how much would labor ,parts and all on a 2002 Honda Accord cost??? Honest answers please
I found squirting some Kroil onto the bolts clamping the switch housing to the steering column then waiting a while finally helped me loosed the bolts with a small cold chisel rotating the bolt heads.
How much would it cost to get it done if your not mechanically inclined
Thank you
Appreciate the comment!
Huge help my friend
Glad it helped, thanks for the comment!
My Jazz/Fit is doing this now out of nowhere and its just not worth spending on a whole new unit. Im wondering if its possible to bypass the immobiliser somehow and put a hidden switch somewhere instead.
The switch I bought didn’t come with the piece that attaches to the side where you put the key in. On my SI there is 1 white plug on the right side. that doesn’t marry to anything on my new setup. and I saw on my old switch that little box where it used to plug in at. Do I take it off and attach it to the new one? Or is it not necessary?
If I use a second hand key and ignition and install it to replace the old one. Do I still need to program it?
Omg thank you, wiggling it worked
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Hi if I was to chnage in on a 2005 EU mk 7 with a another unit of another car would I need to configure the new barrel?
Cut a new key and re-used the old chip which was still good. Had that key for 9 years. Wear and tear was the culprit.
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Hi this is a great video but im a little new what does it mean to seer off when your putting those bolts back in thanks in advance for your response
The bolt heads shear off when you tighten them to prevent them from being easily removed (anti-theft).
I was just going to ask about sheering two small bolts and WHY!?! Thanks for clarifying BD5K1
my steering locked when my ignition jammed up, if i take my ignition off like that, will i be able to unlock the steering? GREATSTUFFMAN!!!
Thank you!!!!
Hi great video, very detailed steps. I have a 07 civic and the key won’t come out of the ignition if you don’t push the gear selector into park hard enough. Happens more if I park uphill. I have to put the key into accessory mode and move the gear selector back into park but hard. Any idea what this could be?
The Key Interlock, Multiplex Control Unit (MICU), Park Pin Switch, and the Transmission Range Switch all work together to lock the key in place so it will not come out when driving.
From what you describe, I would start by troubleshooting the Park Pin Switch (located near gear selector) and then the Transmission Range Switch (located on transmission). The Park Pin Switch needs to be tested manually, the Transmission Range Switch data can be seen by a factory capable scan tool.
My Honda accord steering wheel is locked but the key turns and car starts. What do you think the issue is? Thanks.
Is there anything you can do to get the old ignition to turn. My problem is that the fob is broken off the key, i was going to buy anew fob and change out the key and transponder, but ive got the key glued and tape up on the fob but i cant get it to turn the ignition. Also with the ignition off the car, should it make that the plunger that you line up in the slot on the column to go down when the key is inserted
will try
Will my BlueDriver Bluetooth OBD2 Pro scanner work for programming the new keys?
Probably not.
So your saying if I use the old immobilizer I don’t have to program anything?
Great video, thanks! Would this apply to a 2008 Honda Fit as well? Thanks, Tony.
It should be very similar. Thanks for the comment!
ANY UPDATES ON WHAT YOU DID TO YOUR HONDA FIT ALSO IF I CHANGE THE IGNITION WITHOUT A NEW IMMOBILIZER OR WITH IT WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP. LOOKING FOR CHEAPEST WAY I CAN DIY IT THAT WOULD MAKE IT WORTH NOT SPENDING 800 ON A LOCKSMITH
Thank you so much
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Thank you
Most clear I’ve found
But during removal it seems a few steps are missing
I followed all these up to shearoffbolts
The unit is still well attached with several screws via white plastic molding
I don't know what vehicle you have but I did not edit out any steps in this video, what you see is what I did. Thanks for watching!
How much would the parts and labor be if takin to dealer
Your ruff estimate?
Will this work with a 2006 Accord EX?
Is it true that you can have your old key 🗝 next to the new one when you open the ignition and it’ll turn on the car ?
yes, eventually if you dont care about car being stolen you can glue the old key somewhere inside very close to the ignition.
Thanks!
I appreciate the support, thank you!
The best time to fix your Honda (or any other brand) ignition is the moment it starts acting up/requires jiggling or playing with it to get it to turn. It's cheaper if you fix it early, if the key still can be made to work and turn often a locksmith can repair/replace the lock cylinder for not a lot of money. If your key being worn is part of the problem, as it often is on Hondas, a locksmith can cut a new key to factory specs and program it to the vehicle. The cost of a locksmith doing this on a lock that is just starting to fail but hasn't completely become inoperable is cheaper than the purchase price of this complete Honda ignition assembly and you won't be stuck with two keys for one car.
Is it really necessary to remove the first three electrical plugs? I’d rather not if I don’t have to. Thanks 😊 I suppose it’ll give me a little more room to knock those Shear bolts out.
What if the steering is locked ? could i just unplug the battery for a couple mins to release it?