First of all i'd ask what are africans doing all over europe? I can barely understand they flooding France and Belgium.. but what are they doing in Italy, germany. Poland, Sweden, Greece, east europe, south europe and literally everywhere??
@@ivangamer8022Yes we AFRIKANS are everywhere Coz we are the choosen ones... Apart from iceland where we have only 3 Afrikans.....In India we are called Jarawa and sentanalies,In Australia we are Aborigins, we are In Jaimica,Haiti Turkey,Philipines Japan. Barbados,colombia,Cuba,Mexico,Iraq,Iran, Oman,Qatar Yemen,Brasil,Chile,America. This is why....in our prophecy when the blood of the people of the sun will call ...the wrath of seven suns.....will come. So mind your own business leave AFRIKANS out of your garlic stinking mouth.
I don’t think France will easily give up the small amount of power it retains over Africa so I can see how Africans would see the EU as just it’s legacy of a bunch of colonizers.
Anti western propaganda and whiney neo-Marxist degenerate ideology is too prolific, it undermines good relations and development. Blaming every problem on Europe is pathetic, especially when ignoring the many positive forms of aid and cooperation that have benefited Africa. Trusting China is very risky.
Facts We rather deal with China than the EU The EU wants influence without paying for it China pays for influence and still doesn’t get as much as it wants
First of all i'd ask what are africans doing all over europe? I can barely understand they flooding France and Belgium.. but what are they doing in Italy, germany. Poland, Sweden, Greece, east europe, south europe and literally everywhere??
@@sharwama992 well the eu does pay quite a lot and France is not equal to the eu. Most European countries don’t retain any significant institutional power but it’s just saddening to see how and that it needs to happen the way it does
China is winning in Africa because it's providing what Africa needs the most of: infrastructure. Railways, roads, ports: these are the backbone of a functioning economy. If Europe wants to compete, it should offer contracts for these types of developments, and if it can't compete on cost, then it should complement its offer with technology and skill transfers. If Africa has the choice between cheap infrastructure built by the Chinese, or more expensive infrastructure that it has in large part built itself with European assistance and machinery, a significant fraction will choose the latter.
Excellent video! The Russian invasion of Ukraine made matters even more challenging in some way. For example, reliance on natural gas from Egypt and Algeria will undoubtedly increase. Mario Draghi traveled to Congo and Angola in search of alternatives to Russian natural gas. All of this emphasizes the importance of a deeper relationship between the EU and African countries. Sadly as you pointed out there's too little unity in the matters of foreign policy.
First of all i'd ask what are africans doing all over europe? I can barely understand they flooding France and Belgium.. but what are they doing in Italy, germany. Poland, Sweden, Greece, east europe, south europe and literally everywhere??
@@fullmetaltheorist 3725 km vs 6131 km only counting mainland🤔 Going from the tip of the Horn of Africa to the westernmost point in Senegal though is 7436 km 😂💁🏿♂️
I'm not European or African, but I stand in solidarity with Africa as it persuits its own interests. Personally, as Brazilian, I hope we'll increase south-south ties as an alternative to north-south unequal relations
I am South African. The biggest problem we face is politicians who want their cut from international companies like those in Europe. Our hope is not in the West or China or Russia or anybody else " helping" us. Sure, dont be silly about investment, but we have to allow our own people to drive innovation for our own problems. I dont understand why we buy french trains etc. I am discriminated against in my own country to do business without involving a bunch of freeloaders, but a French company can come here and make money because they create bullshit jobs and make the elite happy. I agree, Africa and South America should trade with each other. We have resources and a young population. And we dont want to control the world. We just have to make our politicians understand that we wont tolerate their greed. All the other excuses are just that, excuses. Political leaders in Africa are the problem.
@@GerhardBothaWFF I agree the biggest problem in Africa and Latin America is internal. East Asia has shown the best strategy for development, we should implement it. Particularly our countries, Brazil and South Africa, being middle income economies, should be doing more in terms of developing local value chains - you mentioned trains but we could talk about a number of other industries like cars. I agree thr key is inside each of our countries and changing our development strategy to be less naive and less dependent on external companies, capital etc
@@GerhardBothaWFF The ANC is so greedy, they let Western companies swarm in and eat everything our South African Oligarchs haven't eaten yet. Our Government is supporting our Business Owners, but only those who will fill their pockets.
@@wellthen4128 Not quite slaves were still imported from Africa, nearly all builders of Egypt and Rome were from Africa or (later) babarians from the North. Carthage became rich because of slave trade. Same goes for Congo in the age of imperialism.
@@wellthen4128 Ain't that true? Some European who were sold as slaves became important figures in the rise of the Kingdom of Aksum and they were even invited, mostly to spread Christianity, but still. In West Africa a lot of travelers from Europe visited Timbuktu for trading with no issues.. Seriously what happened?
@@wrestlinganime4life288 What happened was the “Great Divergence.” As Europe became more technologically advanced than the rest of the world, that success got into their heads. They started thinking they were God’s gift to the world and the rest is history. The good thing is this mentality is slowly going away.
I will tell you that they stole our wealth and colonized some of our lands. They are evil. I wished they did not have nuclear weapons or weapons, so we would have crushed them with our swords
@@Pointi69 Yes more than I do by Robbing them in the past of natural resources like Diamonds like they still do with de beers and stuff and colonizing it Robbing them further and bring slaves and then look back and wonder why they doing so bad. Then we the people pump money into these organizations like the un that could actually if they wanted to make africa a Rich place, like they did with dubai and other places.
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African countries (colonies) had to pay France alone EU980 billion for their independence. In Congo, colonized slave working in plantations, had limbs chopped off if they failed to meet quota. Its hard for Africans to forget the exploitation of their resources and abused of their people in the hands of colonist masters from Europe. Europe has a serious trust deficit. Like US leaders, hard to trust what EU leaders says, they seems to have ulterior motives and hidden agenda. The imperialist and colonist mindset seems to be still lingering, doubt they will ever treat the Africans as equals. So when the Russians, Indians, Chinese etc comes along and see them as peers, its refreshing to the Africans.
Ah yes the good old excuse the west had to do with colonialism and so everything it does is bad. I have news for you 1 Every nation and civilization did some terrible shit in history, colonialism just was one of the last things, should we ask the mongols why they were the most bloody and murderous nation in history? Or why 5 of the most bloody wars in history are only Chinese wars? Or you know what? Lets go to more recent times lets go after colonialism and see why Russia murdered more people then nazi Germany (23 millions) and how Mao Zedong managed to starve 49 millions of its citizens and kill other millions of state enemies, is having the 2 most murderous dictators of the last century a good track record for helping another nation? 2 but ok lets leave the past to the past and lets look at the present. In the present Europe gives largely the most charity to Africa and absorbs 90% of African immigrants (how many are Russia and China and India accepting). While with some problems we actually try to mantain human rights in Africa while Russia is invading Ukraine using ridiculous excuses and China tries to hide its terrible treatment if the Uhgyurs. We don't set debt traps to countries basically making them colonies 2.0, and we don't send mercenary groups with the fame of the Wagner group to help dictators. You probably noted the heated tone in the comment and the reason is that this argument is stupid, there are many better arguments against Europe effectiveness in Africa, you could say we are indecisive, you could say we don't take enough risks and other things, but colonialism is a repeating and idiotic reason not to continue helping Africa like we are doing now
@Sao Ham I pity your colonized mindset man truly, snap out of it. Europeans have Been shamed for years about there past so the we are better feeling is mostly faded. But Chinese and Russian still have it and way more than you think. They act nice now because it's a competition but once the west leaves and they become the only one's there you will realise your mistake. I don't understand why Africans thing they have to choose, Don't choose play them of each other be smart about the situation take advantage.
@@broti705 Africa is perfect for europe in a weakened state.A strong Africa who controls it's own resources is really scary for them.imagine what would Africa really want from the world.
@@pierrebinyom1747 i don't see that as the case at all, theEU has been pretty supportive of the African Union and the East African Community the past. People have to stop thinking international trade is a zero sum game, a richer and more stable Africa would likely benefit Europe a lot as well and make it easier for both parties to do buisness with eachother. ASEAN is a great example of this as they have recently gone into a strategic psrtnership with the EU
Im seeing alot of discussion about how "Africans need to do this and Africans need to do that". And some of those arguments are fair, but many ignore the realities of the current relationship between African Countries and International Corporations (A topic that's rarely discussed). I regularly hear people lament "If African Leaders were only less corrupt...", while ignoring the rampent corruption that occurs at the highest levels in the developed world. Corruption in Africa is a huge problem, but its a problem everywhere; it's just cheaper to buy an African Head of State then it is to buy the British Prime Minister (although it appears a flat refurbishment is enough now adays). Traditional Colonialism has ended, so we need to move on from that conversation and tackle the challenges that we face today. Multi - Nationals play rough shot over African Countries because it's profitable. African Leaders have little incentive to genuinely care about domestic issues because they're real salaries are being paid for by Shell & BP. They exists solely as Govenors in a Neo - Colonial model that no longer requires nation states to enfore their will upon the native populations. And if a leader resists, he'll be voted out (if he's lucky) or some General funded by those same interests will overthrow him. This is well documented, it's not new, and has been going on for decades. We in the West don't hear about it in the same way that we don't hear about child laborers in South East Asia, because inorder to maintain the low prices of goods our supply chain must be exploitative otherwise it would impact corporate earnings. So let's be honest, Africa is poor because it must be for us to sustain our current consumption model. If we paid anywhere near fair value for the raw materials we extract from Africa and the Labor we use in Asia you'd have to pay 10k for the next iPhone.
True, but when push comes to shove nation states DO act in Africa to secure their (and their multinational corporation's) interests. The world has changed, but not so much that the origin of power and capital doesn't matter.
The only reason why they are doing this is because china is slowly taking control of africa and if they fully gain control of africa,china would be unstoppable in terms of power and materials so eu and america wants to aviod that.
you are viewing it from a colonizer mentality. china is not "taking control" of africa or of america or the middle east. they are making trade deals with america africa and the middle east. do you understand the difference? that's sadly not a rhetorical question.
@@sabin97 I want you to watch every time an African or even Latin American diplomat do speeches on trade deals with China. China is literally writing their scripts. The deals are called “win-win” but somebody is winning far more than the other.
Nope its because before it was controlled by the west cia coups invasion etc so now we support Russia and China who never had have done none of those its only the beginning most African countries are afraid of sanctions or else they would openly support Russia and China and the majority of African population especially the youth don't support the west and its a win win China wants to surpass the us Africans want to develop if Africans countries start electing real leaders uncorruptable independent minded especially from the west while working with China and Russia amd other countries that's the only good future for Africa either way we rather choose Russia over the west any day
@sabin97 I feel like when they talk about how "China is trying to take control of Africa", it's some sort of subconscious projection because they can't fathom doing actual business with African countries instead of exploiting them.
China is not taking control of Africa... Africans are not Stupid, but Chinese partnership is far better than anything many Colonizers can put on the table.
Africa shouldn't be still under control from foreign powers, especially Europe. The African countries should unite and produce products for it's development and people
This isn't really about control and more about building better ties for both sides, but honestly, I would be more worried about China than I would with the EU because China aim is to get more control over shows African countries by using debt trap diplomacy. I think if the EU is to be successful in Africa, it has to offer something better than what China is offer, money helps in the short term but overall, it doesn't make that much of a dent in economic growth, what Africa needs is know-how in building a modern economy, the EU is very successful in doing that as it's shown with countless countries that joined the EU and became a lot richer for it. If the EU helps Africa to develop, that would be worth far more than any money the EU or China gives Africa because the know-how will allow Africa to stand on it's own feet, that would be far more useful than throwing money at the problem which a lot of it gets wasted anyway, but then, it's up to the African countries to choose.
@@paul1979uk2000 what debt trap explains last I've heard is that China has forgiven a lot of debt what debt has the western world has ever forgiven plus is not the western countries that offer money to countries then privately own their resources making paying back loans impossible
Good video, but as an African with a master in finance I must set the record straight. There's is absolutely no true aid from EU. The so-call aid all comes with strings attached in form of mineral extraction rights, conditions to borrow from only from western institutions like world bank and IMF which comes with very high interest rates, keep the economies of Africa heavily indebted which they further use as leverage. The dark side they don't tell you is, this loans and aid are forced on Africa, if a country refused any of them, their leaders will be labelled and call dictator. France on the other hand goes as far as inciting rebellions in the countries so they can come in as "peacekeepers" and along comes French companies to extract the country's resources. Now you know.
if that is the case, African people that live in France would protest and riot 24/7 the French government for what it is doing to the African countries these people came from. I think everything is much more in the grey area than simply black&white.
Wow, this channel was such an awesome find! Your ability to go beyond the stated policies into their mutual contradictions is what's missing in so many channels that nominally aim to enlighten and inform. This feels more akin to old school reporting of "here's what happened, these are the factors that go into this, don't take any one side's word on things" and show the actions, history and motivations of what's driving this *now* is superb. Best of luck to you guys. You're on the path to greatness! :)
Is this your first time seeing a video that barely passes as informative and with a smidge of critical analysis or something? Everything he mentions is basically a compilation of common knowledge that can be found in just a few clicks.
Yeah but that 150 million will go into work rather than the pockers of local corrupt leaders. The main difference between western loans and Chinese loans is that China doesn't care where it's loan goes since they would prefer to just grab a good port or piece of land to getting the money paid back.
1) Mineral extraction: how does Africa benefit from this exploitation? 2) Export market: how many local business will go bankrupt as a result? 3) Global standards will only work for western companies opening business in Africa, see 2). 4) Migration control is mostly self-serving for the EU. The only new jobs will mostly benefit western companies, see 1) and 2) 5) Stability and security... After invading Africa not long ago and leaving it to its own devices since, the instability is due to European meddling. Now they're hoping to fix the problems they've caused? Again, this is arrogant and self-serving to the extreme. 6) 'Push visions and values'. In other words: this is just modern day colonialism. Where in all this are the values of the African peoples respected? This whole thing reeks of a knee-jerk reaction to China's presence and involvement in the continent. Before building infrastructures and dumping its own companies on the continent, how about Europe invest in _toilets_ for schools? In medical care for the more remote regions? In access to clean water and food across the continent? Hell, do we even know the state of each country and where its _real_ problems lie, and how we can implement solutions that will _not_ cause the opposite effect? EU has no business in Africa, and that's me saying that as a European, "western"-country citizen.
"5) Stability and security... After invading Africa not long ago and leaving it to its own devices since, the instability is due to European meddling. Now they're hoping to fix the problems they've caused? Again, this is arrogant and self-serving to the extreme." Yeah sure:D africans fight each other with spears because Europeans did some diamond business there 100 year ago
I found interesting that Europe has not realised one major difference: Africa is not a continent with just Black people, but even with the Arab-speaking inhabitants also live there. Basically, Africa is actually divided into two halves: the Arab and the Black. The Arabs of Africa (Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Mauritania, Somalia, Djibouti, Comoros, Sudan and possibly, Chad) has a stronger connection with Europe and Middle East. These people do not like Europe much (though their tie is also ancient), but they do not trust Russia strong enough to believe on Russian media. This is because, they have been deeply influenced by Turkey and Saudi Arabia. And the Turks as well as the Saudis dislike Russia to some extent. The Turks have fought Russia since 16th century, while the Saudis issued global jihad against Russia during the war in Afghanistan at 1980s and Chechnya at 1990s. The Muslim Arabs of Africa have mostly heard the calls against Russia because of either these powers, Muslim Arabs of Africa did volunteer for the Ottomans, a lot of African Arabs have arrived to Afghanistan and Chechnya. The Blacks of Africa, on the other hand, have no such connection. Without Turkish and Saudi influence, they have very little contact until the European colonisation, where the Europeans brutalised them. As such, they found Russia their only saviours, and they deeply resented Europe and America for the collapse of Soviet Union in 1991. Many of these nations sent students to study in USSR during its height, and that link was maintained even after the end of USSR. These people are more prone to Russian influence because of France's actions in Africa and the American quiet support have made them resenting Europe even more, making them less likely to receive European aids. When Mali and Central African Republic have coups in 2021, many of these people celebrated Russian arrival. This is even witnessed during the 2022 Russian-Ukrainian War. Arabs of Africa are aware of the Ukrainian Muslims (Crimean Tatars, Chechens,...) going to fight against Russia, while Blacks of Africa volunteered in the Russian invading side and some are even now in the frontline helping the Russians. Yet it is basically the old scar returning, due to history of Arab enslavement and racism against Black Africans. If Europe wants to build successful tie with Africa, it should try to rebuild tie with the Black part, apologising for its crimes, and ending France's neo-colonialism. With the Arab part, Europe should provide a scheme of cooperation and support together, at the same time also try to encourage the Arabs there to rebuild relations with the Blacks. Only there, Europe can finally have some good peace.
@@josephjoestar5690 you aren't?! Even in a tiny continent like europe there are manu conflicts, what do you expect of a massive one like africa, one with such a difficult history (colonialism)
@@FOLIPE I am Canadian, so literally I do not grow up learning European history. I am aware of the slave trades though, but I don't know much about it.
They are free to do so since 1960s, and already plenty of countries redrew their borders. People love to critize the African borders, but they are not worst than the ones drew in 1914 and 1945 after both WW in Europe. People should stop advocating for ethnostates in Africa that are pure fantasy anyway. The issue in Africa are not at all the frontiers.
Basically, EU wants Africa to develop taking EU needs into consideration. Ursula said that if funding projects in Africa leads to helping Chinese investment, EU doesn't want to fund those projects. EU says it wants to be a reliable partner with Africa but so far it seems EU wants to continue it's centuries of abusive relationship.
@@cabidela We here talking about developing a country and you bring up example of banks??? You do know that relationship build by countries are vastly different compared to banks. Anyways, if I am not mistaken, it's EU who wants to increase there influence in Africa for better future. The EU leaders also want to show EU helping in the development of Africa. But at the same time if helping Africa means profit for China, EU doesn't want to help Africa anymore. EU messaging all over the place like everything these days. All the talk of become a reliable partner goes do the drain if EU keeps it current policies. Lastly, since you brought up banks. Let me remain you than EU's current declining influence in Africa is because they acted like banks. Only funding projects than profited EU massively and almost no funding to develop Africa.
@@crishhari5903 While I totally agree that we Europeans didn’t treat you well, I don’t get why you believe this would be different with a Chinese or even Russian partnership. Every nation or union has its own interest in mind.
@@tempo5366 More options, better bargaining power. Add to that, so far China has been a much better partner compared to EU. Only time will tell if China is reliable long term but long history with Europe has already shown EU approach and bad faith. That being said, African countries need to work together for better future and be less reliable on outside forces. But for the time being, assistance from outside is needed.
@@tempo5366 Europeans believe that the Chinese will carry out the cruel, vile and degenerate acts that they themselves did. Hahahahaha it is not possible to overcome the cruelty, racism and hypocrisy with which Europe treated Africa
I know what the European project´s aim is. If you search inside the soul of an average democratic voter, you find a thirst for justice, agreement, mutual support and a path to a better future. This is the foundation that an enlightened, educated, free voter wants. This is the building blocks in the foundation of a civilization. If you want fast solutions, censorship, fugitive politicians or extreeme inequality, do not look to Europe.
Europe left Africa after centuries of Brutal slavery and colonialism. But the 100s of trillions looted have never been paid back. So until you pay what's owed you have no say in any African matters. Sooner you start the payment, the lesser would be the interest. It would take 2-3 centuries but hey France did collect debt for more than a century from Haiti for daring to become independent
Well I get your point but how about some realism? France had to use military and diplomatic means to enforce interest payments How many people are starving in Africa at the moment? How many would do it if Europe stopped helping you (Europe is the whole west in this case) Does China have the means to break a blockade of the West Man comes from Africa but what civilizational achievements have here to assign Even starting with agriculture, there were other nations Without the rest of the world you would still be living in the Stone Age Nobody held you back for the last 50 years, you screwed it up yourself
@@herrputschy54 Lol that's like saying why doesn't a retired school teacher retire like a retired billionaire? that's how immature and full of yourself Europe sounds. Do you wonder why 85% of the countries don't agree that any genocide is going on in China? Wonder why no one supported Europe against Russia in UN. Wonder why India abstained? Wonder why no one seems to care about Europe freezing this winter.
@@quotes612 how would it do that? Africa neither have the funds, infrastructure or human resources (educated population, and trusted institutions) to succeed on its own at the moment
@@Luking2Africa can buy infrastructure with resources and if African immigrants go home they will have Human Resources. You act as if most European are educated most work wage slave jobs
The fact that they're doing this to combat China's influence in Africa is crazy. It took China coming in to help Africa rebuild themselves for the people who actually destroyed Africa to come back and clean up their mess.
The problem is, China isn't doing this to help Africa, its entrapment with debt traps and control over a lot of Africa resources and in some ways, even a land grab which isn't in the interest of the African people but I think it will be too late before they realize that but I hope I'm wrong on that.
That is just false information: 1) The European Union is not responsible for the destruction of Africa. Colonisation of Africa is something that was done until the early 20th century while the EU didn't come to existence until 1993, and it started centuries earlier with even non-European countries involved such as Egypt. 2) The EU has been supporting all African countries with money, material, military aid and education since the year 2000 with an estimated investment of over 60 billion euros - and now they signed a deal for an additional 150 billion euros making a total of 210 billion euros. 3) China has been investing into African countries on a small scale since the 1980s with the overwhelming majority going to South Africa, Sudan, Nigeria, Sambia and Algeria. Recently, it started to focus on more countries with political instability and where the EU isn't investing the most such as Ethiopia. Altogether, it is estimated that China invested 148 billion euros with its priorities being the development of oil extraction, transportation and the development of internet / telecommunication. While all of these investments are generally beneficial for these countries, they are ultimately done in a way that isn't appropriate by decent morality standards given the fact that the transportation services have harsh dept clauses and can immediately by seized by China, there already are election manipulation scandals in the Central African Union due to Beijing's hacking involvement as well as spying technology, and as the video depicted properly: No investments and building processes have human rights standards which ultimately means that in some instances, Chinese investors are treating the locals in a similar way that pre-20th century colonisers did to them. China is a significant investor in African countries for the past decade now. However, in order to be less criticised and actually build sustainable networks that improve the overall quality of life of African citizens, the target nations need to work with harsher regulations - similar to what the EU does - so that they aren't being spied on, they don't fall prey to greedy infrastructure owners, their elections stay democratic and their people have safe work conditions with proper payment!
@@akumayoxiruma yes it is, france still is a bad actor in africa and is in the EU. while EU can't be blame for what happen 100 years ago it can be blamed for what happen today, cooperation pay off officials against African countries interest in favor of EU never mind EU intervention to protect those interest every now and then to protect those cooperations. lastly fuck no didn't u hear? EU doesn't support with military aid, they intervene against whom ever they don't like but they don't sell weapon hence why russia is often the one that sell them. EU miltiray aid = coup against who oppose us
Western countries suddenly discovered that Africa could be realistically a huge market for their affairs and realized also that China was trying to seize it entirely. What a surprise. Why these people doesnt study a bit of Machiavelli?
The title doesn’t make any sense whatsoever, because it’s impossible to say ‘Europe’ ‘IS doing’. What France is doing in Africa might be the complete opposite of what Italy would like to see happen in Africa, actually we’ve seen in the past for example, as in the case with Libya, how the interests of different European countries can completely clash with one another. For instance, France wanted to get rid of Gadhafi, whereas Italy absolutely wanted to keep Gaddafi in power.
The Europeans said for many years, Africa is a lost continent that could not be saved. The same haunted faces now say they want to help and invest in Africa. Don't believe that crap. Mali, well done! ✌️
No serious Europeans said that. Yeah good job Mali for doing a pro Russian coup, as they are now dying by hundreds killed by terrorists and Mali/Warner mercenaries. Good job.
Great Video! Just a slight remark: there has not been any confirmed case of China's right to seize infrastructure in case of default (what you mention at 7:50), despite all the talk about Chinese debt traps. You might want to check your sources on that one. Other than that, nicely done video about an interesting topic which definitely deserves more attention!
Yeah the whole dept trap thing is a bit overexaggerated. PolyMatter made a great video on the topic. The fact is there's no actual evidence to show they are partaking in dept trap diplomacy. The thing they are actually doing is just giving out massive loans to anybody and everybody to curry favour and influence, but in the vast majority of cases where investments do fail they forgive the depts. Here's PolyMatter's video: th-cam.com/video/7gwgcIfzttA/w-d-xo.html
Hmm, I had read about Chinese infrastrucutre deals being quite harsh in general, but indeed it does seem you are right about the debt trap, I wasn't sufficiently informed (I looked into the Sri Lanka port treaty, which turns out is something different from what I had originally thought). Thanks for your comment! Cheers, Hugo
Well, it is true, no key african infrastructure has been yet ceded to China, as of today the countries that have been enslaved to china via debt are all in Asia (Laos, Myanmar, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, Pakistan) but if you can imagine what happens next for many african countries. China decides what infrastructure to build in african countries to fit chinese needs, zambia owes to china 5bn, angola 16 5 bn (each roughly 25% of their own GDP), Mozambique 2bn(10% of GDP), these are insane numbers tied to projects that will have only a limited impact on african countries economies overall. Unfortunately these countries are destined to become colonies again unless someone else step in to bail them out and save them.
@@xyris1208 and who is this someone that youre talking about? Europeans? 😂 fk me! 21st century and youre still playing superhero saving humanity. Get a grip!
@@IntoEurope I think the argument is the clauses are in there, and China could choose to use them if it wanted even if they haven't yet. At the moment China is trying to buy friends in Africa, they're playing the long game, so it probably doesn't make much sense for them to spring any of these traps at the moment.
India has still a lot to do for themselves (but they might want to start to invest too) & Russia is entering a gloomy economic future. Engaged in pseudo-trench warfare and having pushed aside their economic problems to the coming years. I doubt anything will come from Russia, that country is done until they get their democracy right
Russia steals Ukrainian resources and sells them to Africa, and they are a major provider of military equipment to problematic warlords... Indians often set up business outposts amid their clans, but seems like they often develop resentment and hostility, because of obnoxious behavior or jealousy from locals...
Yeah... when the judge gives the final judgement, it's based on the criminals past history. I would say the same applies here. Africa won't close its doors to Europe, but will have a huge impact on how Africa will deal with Europe.
A big flaw of your logic is that countries aren’t a single entity, criminals are. Most of the people that colonised are already dead. You wouldn’t say that someone is a criminal because their grandfather killed someone. Africa still should be cautious with the EU but it’s just not the same.
@@miagatwa2457 bullshit! The impact of colonization is still strong in Africa. Apartheid was still well and running in the late 20th century. Those who experienced apartheid are still alive to tell their stories. These African countries gained their independence in the 60s and many people who fought for independence are still Alive. So educate yourself before you go on a foolish moral lecture. The truth of the matter is Africa should guard itself from Europe. FYI, we are talking about countries that colonized and massacred people. Not grandfathers.. the countries that colonized are still well and running so his point was valid.
@@miagatwa2457 Your take is naive, at best. I give you two reasons: (1) People in Europe are still benefiting from the crimes of dead colonisers. Acting as is the past has no consequences in the present will not do. (2) European countries and corporations take advantage of African nations to this day.
It's too late for EU to gain Africa trust and will need a titanic effort to convince we are here to help. On a serious side Russia propaganda against the EU is true to a certain extent. I have my country, Romania as an example. Even though we are a member state since 2007, we are still badly viewed in other member states such as Germany, we are not a Shengen space member mainly because Holland is opposed to our adherence and since the pandemic there now exist a palpable faction in favour of leaving the EU. Even though since joining living standards has improved , we are still the main exporter of skilled labour for EU states such as Italy, Spain, France and Germany, with each passing year hundreds of Romanians leave to work in Wester European nations. Because of this we became a sort of a poster child for propaganda of why joining or make deals with EU would make you a economic colony.
sounds like your government is blaming all its problems on the west, like poland. not being part of schengen and brain drain are bad, sure, but that doesnt account for being an economic colony.
Economic colony ? Are you hearing yourself First Romania joined before meeting all the necessary criteria and thus is not part of Schengen of the eurozone the pandemic thing is first very understandable and second a very rare occurrence Second Romania isn't kept out of the eurozone and Schengen almost every EU state HAS to eventually integrate into the two areas and there's no incentive whatsoever economic or otherwise for the other states to keep us out And third Romania has seen some of the fastest growth not just in Europe but the world thanks to the EU and while yes the mass migration is a very bad issue it can't compare to the sheer economic miracle of our state and you can't just dismiss it as "living standards have improved" everything is better than it's ever been If you call this colonisation than good sir check the dictionary
What europe is REALLY doing in Africa? Ask Desmond Tutu. "When the missionaries came to Africa, they had the Bible and we had the land. They said “let us close our eyes and pray.” When we opened them, we had the Bible, and they had the land."
they don’t even have the industrial capacity to process some resources and create alloys for electric vehicles (batteries), most of this industry is located in China.
not just that but they still have occupied ceuta and melilla. so it's understandable that africans wont trust the colonizers......because they are STILL colonizers.....
If the EU wanted to do these things, they would of done it already. Not when China is doing it. Anyway they have enough problems at home with Russia. I think they should focus of that. I see the begining of the end for them 😢
The EU is a massive economy and can focus on both things, besides, the issues with Russia and energy is very short term of just a few years, not a big deal overall. As for helping Africa, I agree, the EU should have helped a long time ago, but things tend to have a reactive effect depending on what others are doing, in this case China. Personally, I think China is trapping many countries in Africa with debt trap diplomacy, that's not a good thing because it could make those countries poorer in the long run whiles signing over assets over to China as they can't pay off the debts, it's a smart move from China but it's bad news for Africa, but for many, it's too little too late already.
@@paul1979uk2000 I like your optimism about Russia and energy being a short term problem. What are they suppose to do for these few years without Russian supply btw? For eg. in Germany, even they reach 100% stock pile, this will only last few winter month. Thats why they have been running to other countries like Qatar to give them gas, who refused them btw. What are the other options? Renewable energy? Since they reopened the coal mines something tells me that this is still a joke. Only way is to reach a concession with Russia, which is what the citizens of the EU has realized, which is why there was massive protest in the last days there. Given that the EU thinks it is still a unipolar world where they dictate to everyone what to do with their master the great USA, i Dont think they will concede, which makes me believe it not gono end soon.
@@paul1979uk2000 It is always funny to read comments like these coming from the west about China entrapping African countries through insfracture and other projects. Western countries have been doing the exact same thing in a much more brutal way to entrap countries, through regimes changes, bloody foreign occuption. And when they finish destroying that target country, they give to it an IMF loan that they surely wont be able to pay back so they can exploit you more. So dont tell me you actuallly give 2 cents about african exploition. Atleast China is helping them make some progress, instead of bombing and colonizing.
I don't think our relations with Africa will be easy anytime soon, but if this is needed, then we must provide as an alternative offer. China and Russia have succeeded in providing disinformation and financial muscles so these Africans switched to the Chinese and Russians. And I also think that France must end its currency manipulation in Africa.
Its odd how europeans are so quick to say africans are misinformed and manipulated as soon as Africa choses not to follow Europe, instead of asking why sovereign African nations have considered it to be their interest to have deeper relations with this or that country
Excuse me....'these Africans'? Funny how when Africans make a decision, we know nothing. This is exactly why we're partnering more with China and Russia, because the mentality of Europe is we are always the people who need help. You're the ones who have been misinformed time after time by your media to think Africa is poor and cannot help itself. Travel abit and educate yourself on matters Africa and you'll see that in less than a hundred years half the world human population will be African. You can not to deal with us as your inferiors anymore....You sound Japanese but I'll group you with the Europeans since we know the racism against Africans stretches to the far East also.
I am an African and what you just said is one of the reasons we can never trust you guys. You think we are dumb. We know what is going on and we know that you people are liars.
Africa will be better if Europe and specially France leave it. Europe should take care of europe's problems and Africa should deals with their problems.
Great video. Europe is Making believe it's only on Africa 's interests when we all know the resources are all in Africa and europe benefits greatly.The race for Africa part 2
Will Africa win. This time will they prioritise educational it's citizens or banning and shopping it's financial proceeds in Europe, which Europeans can confiscate at will, Russia is learning the hard way and Russia is an equal to all of Europe.
The saddest thing is not that Russia and China are doing the same thing that Europe has done centuries ago... the saddest thing is that Europe doesn't seem to be able to offer a more practical, fair, peaceful and, ultimately, meaningful alternative! I can only hope it changes quickly. Respect is the most important word!
China did not colonize and genocide Africans a century ago or today or tomorrow. The Europeans did and will again. Leopard does not change its spots. And what do you expect from evil former and neo-colonial imperialists?
Not really speaking as an African and descendant of freedom fighters. Russia China relations are mutual beneficial. The give loan to Africans at reasonable rates. build infrastructure for us base on our needs. The western always take and are only beneficial to them. China brokers deals for affordable oil for Africans from the Arab world the west sell us over priced oils. China build manufacturing plants in Africa then export made products from Africa to china creating employment and a self sustaining industry. the west steals raw materials in Africa enslaved the Africans to work on their projects and fight their wars, burnt down settlements of entire tribes and stole their Land (The Belgians committed genocide of over 6 million Africans in central Africa ), stole sacred artifacts that are still on display in Europe today. Don't compare the western savagery to the support of offered by the East
China is doing the same thing that Europe has done centuries ago? Really? So China is committing the worst genocide that the world has ever seen and enslaving the native population? Can I get the sources on that one? What China is doing is leagues better than what the EU is CURRENTLY doing, which is trying it's best to keep neocolonialism alive and keep benefiting from past genocides...
As an African (ethiopian) I don't like European investments, they are not so different from Chinese, they come to invest and employ Europeans like Chinese companies, it won't make difference for us We, Africans, want to move to higher chains of export and self sufficiency, but Europeans want to take chances by, for example, building internet connections across Africa, while there are African companies trying to expand by African employees and allowing us to have our own expertise, but we, Africans, would lose our professional jobs in Telecommunications and engineering because of European dominance, and only be employed as temporary builders. Simply, we will be in disadvantage in the long run, Europeans are just not helping
@Swedish and Nordic. They whined about being replaced in their own country by chinese and european workers. Something that you nordicks,out of all people,should understand
Outside investment often requires outside expertise and efficient methodology to be cost effective. Africa has responsibilities also, and further reforms need to be made, constantly blaming others is a counterproductive strategy. I do agree projects should try and utilize local people to a greater degree, for needed jobs and skill development. Some appreciation for global/western aid & technology wouldn't hurt either, instead of only angry rants.
Europeans don't hate Africans, my friend. The problem is (corporate) capitalism and neocolonialism. As a European myself I would love to see a developed Africa free from meddling geopolitical powers all around the world. But that doesn't mean we can't cooperate as African and European citizens.
Europe needs to settle the old deal before proposing a new deal. The old colonial deal was based on exploitation, Europe must take responsibility for its actions and that includes Reparations. Only then can the beginnings of a new deal be discussed. Anything else is a waste of time.
the EU still considers Africa a colony - the world leaders kept saying that the ships with wheat blocked in Ukraine will become a reason why Africa will startve in 2022/2023. The ships were unblocked. Only 1 out of 30 released ships went to Africa, the rest went to the Wester Europe. That is all we need to know about European policy towards Africa.
I recall when the Covid vaccines finally came out... African countries desperately asked for their share, or asked to be allowed to produce generics for themselves at least. But, Western countries just hoarded everything for themselves, even when they had enough doses to vaccinate every one of their citizens several times. That made me feel so mad.
I had listened enough with little Mermaid, and she can't even solve the EU oil/gas crisis and inflations. Time will tell if she can last till early 2023.
Being from Portugal, despite all the historically bad actions and cultural differences we have, that leads into an understandable suspicion that the vast majority of African countries might have toward Europe's intentions... imo the fact is that honest and genuine cooperation between Europe and Africa is the best and logical way forward for both continents and the people that live in it! Europe needs to be humble, come to terms and accept it's historical mistakes (that hurt Africa so much) and fully recognize that not only us, but the entire world, needs a stronger, richer and more robust Africa if we genuinely want Humanity to have a brighter future. African countries as a all, nowadays, also need to recognize that they do need help from outside to live in peace, develop and have a better future for the people living in it. Again, as a Portuguese and European that does not have an heroic or romanticized view about the Age of Exploration... i do think it is time for a new Era (in my mind i call it the Age of Knowledge) an Era where Europe and Africa (after countless centuries of brainless wars, poverty, famine, racial discrimination and brainless superstitions) can come together as an example of what a more advanced, more humane, more knowledgeable, understanding and compassionate Humanity can be! Europe needs Africa, Africa needs Europe and that's a fact!... But, way more important than that, the entire world needs to come together and Africa plays a central role in that future! I can only hope that Europe is the one that helps, in every way it can, to make that future a reality! It might be considered a naive and utopian point-of-view but... if you can't dream of a fairer and better future for everyone living in a World without people dying from famine, wars, natural disasters and poverty... then what is the point of it?! Never forget that Humans, at the end of the day and above everything else (even gods or demons of any kind) are simply and thankfully that: just (but also) Humans! The best thing about it?... We can all change to survive and become stronger and better together!
The problem is, Africa desires to divorce Europe. Drop European languages and even forgo anything that Europe thinks it can offer Africa (whatever that is) if it means that is the only way to de-tach, de-link and divorce Europe. We envy the Russians for going through a messy divorce. That one is true independence, that we desire. Our fights and battles for the past centuries have always been about getting rid of Europe. Generally Europeans just don't get what humanity is all about. They only talk about it when they want to manipulate or manouver. They are our mortal enemies, enemies of our existence, they have been engaging in all sorts of methods, direct and inderect, underground and above the ground with a sole purpose and final goal of eradicating us and taking our mother continent. The same way they took Ausie and Kanada as well as us of a. They also belive and wish others could just forget and move on as if nothing happened. They don't want the historical injustices to be addressed, which they are still committing by the way, and the only reason they advocate for some partnership that is based on fairness is because they are losing grip, not because they are truly humane and remorseful. On our part, we don't want to avenge anyone, we just want to be left alone and live our African lifes, without anyone attempting to de-Africanise us because we are not the same. We are Africans and they are Europeans.
@@odis.x it sounds like you're advocating for isolationism, which has historically been a really poor policy choice as it leads countries stagnating and not doing as much innovation as when it participates actively on the world stage. A good historical example of this is China during the Ming and Qing empires where their isolationist policies played a large role in making what was once one of the richest countries in the world into a technologically inferior backwater open for European colonisation.
I pray to Allah to help us Africans to escape from the captivation of the puppet leaders and corruption politicians which the west used to explote Africa amine ya rabbi barkai khassida yii amine
@@franzjoseph1837 Well wonderfully the Congolese government is ineffective, corrupt, and doesn’t even have complete control over it’s internationally recognized borders. No one else really needs them, and resource extraction can still happen even in the middle of a war
@@thereap5348 alternatives to Cobalt? There are only three ferromagnetic transition elements. Iron, Nickel, and Colbalt. There are no alternatives to this as these are essential in almost all electrically powered manufactured goods for their special interaction with electrical currents that isn't replicated in other elements.
This video sounds more about ‘competition with China and Russia’ than ‘help Africa’, or ‘do business in Africa’. And I guess that’s what’s wrong with European’s attitude towards Africa-it’s never about the Africans.
it's easier said than done, have you ever asked your self how much Africa gains per year to be able to fund industries even railways, roads, ports, etc my countries budget for a year is 20trillion naira which is that like the equivalent of 409billion dollars this money was even able to come to life because of more borrowing. African countries don't have the funds to develop faster than you think, people think Africa is poor because It chose to be not knowing that its the system that makes them poor and with this increase in interest rates it just makes matters worse. China is the only country that is making an effort to a developed Africa, thanks to the loans they gave us we now have a better rail network we have a big port still under construction and our international airports can receive the expansion that it desperately needs. Europe knows how to solve Africa's problems but prefer not to solve it cause Africa's current state favours them.
The problem is the Africans, mainly the Sub-Saharan states, have immense dislike against Europe because they think the whole continent exploits Africa, even though countries like Poland, Romania, Croatia, Finland, Norway or Greece have never embarked on military colonialism or campaigns in Africa, unlike the British and French (mainly). This is why many of these people support the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and some are even now sent to Ukraine by Putin. However, Russia is economically incompetent, so the EU must usher this advantage by providing a new economic scheme that will develop Africa. Instead of just France maintaining monopoly (which was the reason for Europe being blamed), we should together rebuild African nations. Those Arab countries of Africa may need a little difference, since they distrust Russia more than those Sub-Saharan states (these people used to fight against Russia in Afghanistan and Chechnya in the name of jihad from Mecca).
These nations support Russia's oppression and colonisation of Ukraine because they themselves were once oppressed and colonised? How does that make any sense?
Eastern European countries didn't join colonialism, but now they join the EU which has neocolonial policies towards Africa. If they want to be perceived differentlyI suppose they should change that mentality withing the EU, but its not like eastern europe is imune from colonial mentality just because it didn't partake in colonization
As an African, to Europe and the US, Africa is an afterthought, to China, Turkey, Russia or India we are a priority. We will deal with those who value us.
I respect your view and agree with your reasoning, but it's important to consider that, whilst Europe is a bureacratic mess with deep running corruption, to cooperate with them means to cooperate with partners that value liberty. To work with China and Russia is to work with despots, which is unsustainable and will eventually lead to more cons than pros Look at Serbia. Refused to work with Europe, wanted to be Russia's little friend, much further below than neighbouring countries that were willing to work with Europe
@@juannaym8488 NATO removed Gaddafi in Libya and replaced him with chaos, now all of the Sahel countries are suffering the consequences with terrorism, slavers and cartels wreaking havoc. Neither Russia or China caused chaos in Africa.
None of this addresses the underdevelopment perpetrated by predominantly European powers. More resource extraction without education and industrial development and just switching suzerainty to China from Europe isn’t going to cause prosperity in Africa. Perhaps if there was some sense of actually trying to undue the genocide and rampant pillaging Europe did, there’s be some chance of repairing trust. For all Europe mocks the Americans, they’ve had the most negative impact on Africa of any foreign power, particularly the French and Dutch. Maybe work on actually giving access to your markets and know-how like you did in China if you want African nations to develop. But that’s not what you guys really want, just more cheap resources like always.
China never became Africa's sovereign though. Africa should learn from east asia and implement steong developmentist policies. Many countries are doing just that. Its in Africa's hands
Not sure about the rest, but former portuguese colonies don't see Portugal in a bad way. I mean, they sure don't see the portuguese as lords but more as small partners
@@roid1510 Idk, all I know is that Portugal often helps Cape Verde and Mkzambique specially. Also that a lot of portuguese média covers problems in ex colonies and that, in those ex colonies Portugal isn't hated, mos of them that come here are prety chill people. Also our prime ministre wants to buy gas from Mozambique
Another way of looking at it. “China took a different approach, we need to in order to distance ourselves further from the colonial misdeeds because African politicians are rubbing shoulders with China. We need to up our game a little”. Long story short… give a little and take a lot more.
As someone with relatives in Africa: China's approach only sounds good on paper. The Chinese build self contained sub-economies there which only is profitable for China. No jobs for Africans (All Workers are imported from China who work there), no trade (all parts and material needed taken from China), no really usable infrastructure (all roads are only for transports to mines and factories). It's an even worse deal than with many European countries.
I don’t know if you’re joking or not by saying “What Africans perceive as “colonialism”. My man, that’s called NEOCOLONIALISM! Read about it, please. Do you really believe the UE is really concerned with bringing “stability” and “respect for human rights”? There’re reasons why Africans prefer by far making deals with China. They know perfectly that It’s more convenient for them, don’t infantilize them as if they don’t know what’s good for them.
These westerners are living in a bubble of their own . They think their governments are as benevolent spread democracy and protect human rights just because these values are sacrosanct in EU territory when in fact everything the west does in Africa is to keep it dependent on Europe, Destabilized with no future. Don't blame them they have been brainwashed by liberal media that they are a force for good because if European citizens actually knew about the dirty stuff Europe does in Africa to insure its interests, they'd revolt against their ruling class. The model of the EU is whitewashed exploitative capitalism where they get high living standards by exploiting others and pretending they're not unlike the US where they shamelessly exploit counties publically
Yes, we should stop wasting 50-90 billion in development aid every year and stop giving african countries tariff free access to our markets so you can deal with your own shit.
@@FarsightAE no Africans ask for aids! Your politicians uses that to bribe African leaders to get free resources. Aid has NEVER helped Africa. We want Europeans OUT!
These investments are to try to counter China's investments in Africa. If China didn't invest in Africa, Europe wouldn't invest either. Europe was in Africa for 500 years and only invested in what brought it profit or advantage.
Not a word on UK? Leaving EU does not mean living Europe. UK had colonies all over Africa! What is UK today's participation to Africa's development? What benefits does it still derive from this past?
I think main problem is corruption, low standards of human rights, low concern for environment and sustainability in Africa and for EU is hard to support such countries and such policies. China is not picky because it has lower standards in these areas itself. But with not angageing EU leaves space for even bigger unfavourable development in Africa.
What!! Us/eu who support the corrupt governments in keep them in power read a book and loose that superior mindset that’s what’s gone keep Europe cold in the winter the world is growing sick of disgusting European behavior
Nothing but disgusting racism. Letting them make their own decisions rather than force them to bent to western will. China and Russia treat them as equal partners rather than constantly meddling in their internal affairs and telling them what they should do.
It's sick how European nations demand African nations bend to their will before sending aid. Europe is the whole reason why Africa needs aid in the first place! It is so arrogant to only help if they agree to not send too many poor people. Grinds my gears.
That means we are highly unlikely to pick their deals. There are so many countries in the que for this competition for Africa and they are not seating on some high horse. European attitude is one of the reasons they will be behind in this competition for Africa.
@@Komeshokakunanwene first its not like every african problem are colonialism fault, second europe will probably be behind in competition becouse of the care for human rights.
@@allo3573 Africa has been divided into 54 countries according to European greediness, this are artificial bolders imposed on Africa by Europe. This bolders cause so many problems and complications until today. So, yes! all the problems of Africa trace all the way back to colonialism! Europe can just keep it's aid to themselves, they also need it. Europe will be behind in competition, not because they care about human rights. They are the number one human rights violators known to mankind. They will be behind because of their colonial history and colonial attitude towards Africa.
@@Komeshokakunanwene man take Liberia as a example, never been colonized but still is in One of the worst situations, same for Ethiopia so yea. As for human rights, surely EU now is respecting them more than fucking china or us.
Africa has a lot of resource. And so does other continents. However labor resource is the cheapest in the world. Latin America just doesn't have enough cheap human capital. The choice to buy resources in Australia or Africa is easy for China.
Australia is also straight up political hostile to china so... yea no brainer for china where they would like to be able to buy things from if they had a choice.
No Continent comes close to what Africa has as resources, actually CONGO alone might have more resources than Latin America. Let alone Tanzania, South Africa, Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe.
It's almost like it's not an either/or situation where everyone must take a side. China is clearly not a force for good on the international stage, but Europe has been slacking and could do a lot better.
@@FOLIPE Lol, they aren't. They are just taking advantage of countries with no industrialization. They are pretty much ok with having a system based on corruption. Vice documentary on Chinese mining in Guyana shows that for example.
@@TylerSolvestri well, yes they are. China is a force for good in many countries whether you like it or not. Chinese business, suppliers, demand and investment has been hugely significant in many places. Of course they come with downsides but so does any form of investnent. Any mine is pollutive, and exploitative, if you want to paint it as such. And yes, in many countries chinese investments haven't payed out ideally either (same as other foreign investments, usually). But generally there are many cases when comparing to other powers the chinese are the most relevant positive player, or one of them at least.
Not aging well, considering current events. And even if China retakes control of infrastructure, at least the infrastructure is still there. With the EU, it’s just infinite refinancing and nothing gets built at all.
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First of all i'd ask what are africans doing all over europe? I can barely understand they flooding France and Belgium.. but what are they doing in Italy, germany. Poland, Sweden, Greece, east europe, south europe and literally everywhere??
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@@ivangamer8022Yes we AFRIKANS are everywhere Coz we are the choosen ones...
Apart from iceland where we have only 3 Afrikans.....In India we are called Jarawa and sentanalies,In Australia we are Aborigins,
we are In Jaimica,Haiti Turkey,Philipines Japan. Barbados,colombia,Cuba,Mexico,Iraq,Iran,
Oman,Qatar Yemen,Brasil,Chile,America.
This is why....in our prophecy when the blood of the people of the sun will call ...the wrath of seven suns.....will come.
So mind your own business leave AFRIKANS out of your garlic stinking mouth.
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I don’t think France will easily give up the small amount of power it retains over Africa so I can see how Africans would see the EU as just it’s legacy of a bunch of colonizers.
Anti western propaganda and whiney neo-Marxist degenerate ideology is too prolific, it undermines good relations and development. Blaming every problem on Europe is pathetic, especially when ignoring the many positive forms of aid and cooperation that have benefited Africa. Trusting China is very risky.
Facts
We rather deal with China than the EU
The EU wants influence without paying for it
China pays for influence and still doesn’t get as much as it wants
First of all i'd ask what are africans doing all over europe? I can barely understand they flooding France and Belgium.. but what are they doing in Italy, germany. Poland, Sweden, Greece, east europe, south europe and literally everywhere??
Wouldn’t really call it small
@@sharwama992 well the eu does pay quite a lot and France is not equal to the eu. Most European countries don’t retain any significant institutional power but it’s just saddening to see how and that it needs to happen the way it does
China is winning in Africa because it's providing what Africa needs the most of: infrastructure. Railways, roads, ports: these are the backbone of a functioning economy. If Europe wants to compete, it should offer contracts for these types of developments, and if it can't compete on cost, then it should complement its offer with technology and skill transfers. If Africa has the choice between cheap infrastructure built by the Chinese, or more expensive infrastructure that it has in large part built itself with European assistance and machinery, a significant fraction will choose the latter.
You are underestimating chinas infrastructure function 💀 they've built a ton of things that nobody uses . . Look it up
EU should stay the fuck away from Africa.
Chinese will want profits for their investments. I propose them frustration.
No brainer
Very insightful!!
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Excellent video! The Russian invasion of Ukraine made matters even more challenging in some way. For example, reliance on natural gas from Egypt and Algeria will undoubtedly increase. Mario Draghi traveled to Congo and Angola in search of alternatives to Russian natural gas. All of this emphasizes the importance of a deeper relationship between the EU and African countries. Sadly as you pointed out there's too little unity in the matters of foreign policy.
Right also i am really surprised that Libia was not mentioned in the video, the impact that it had on the African continent was so deep
@@lyaeusv3828 I guess it's an editing choice, Libya can be a long video on its own
First of all i'd ask what are africans doing all over europe? I can barely understand they flooding France and Belgium.. but what are they doing in Italy, germany. Poland, Sweden, Greece, east europe, south europe and literally everywhere??
@@ivangamer8022 They are there because they are also in fact fellow Homo Sapiens (Human beings) and they are going to europe to get a better life.
@@ivangamer8022 They are there for job opportunities.
This continent is gigantic 😂. Nigeria is unimaginably far from South Africa like waaaay
About as far as Japan is from Finland. Africa is huge and most people don't realize that.
@@fullmetaltheorist 3725 km vs 6131 km only counting mainland🤔
Going from the tip of the Horn of Africa to the westernmost point in Senegal though is 7436 km 😂💁🏿♂️
The distance from Senegal to Kenya is same as distance from Denmark to India
And........ ?
seriously?
I'm not European or African, but I stand in solidarity with Africa as it persuits its own interests. Personally, as Brazilian, I hope we'll increase south-south ties as an alternative to north-south unequal relations
I am South African. The biggest problem we face is politicians who want their cut from international companies like those in Europe. Our hope is not in the West or China or Russia or anybody else " helping" us. Sure, dont be silly about investment, but we have to allow our own people to drive innovation for our own problems. I dont understand why we buy french trains etc. I am discriminated against in my own country to do business without involving a bunch of freeloaders, but a French company can come here and make money because they create bullshit jobs and make the elite happy. I agree, Africa and South America should trade with each other. We have resources and a young population. And we dont want to control the world. We just have to make our politicians understand that we wont tolerate their greed. All the other excuses are just that, excuses. Political leaders in Africa are the problem.
@@GerhardBothaWFF I agree the biggest problem in Africa and Latin America is internal. East Asia has shown the best strategy for development, we should implement it. Particularly our countries, Brazil and South Africa, being middle income economies, should be doing more in terms of developing local value chains - you mentioned trains but we could talk about a number of other industries like cars. I agree thr key is inside each of our countries and changing our development strategy to be less naive and less dependent on external companies, capital etc
@@GerhardBothaWFF
The ANC is so greedy, they let Western companies swarm in and eat everything our South African Oligarchs haven't eaten yet. Our Government is supporting our Business Owners, but only those who will fill their pockets.
@@GerhardBothaWFF Wel,l at this point political leaders are the problem in most of the world
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Good video :) there is however a slight error in the TGV in Morocco, it's from Tangier to Casablanca, and not to Oran, the latter is in Algeria.
Ouppps, you spend so much time looking at the same animation, that it starts looking correct :')
Thanks for the correction!
Cheers,
Hugo
Good correction !
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Great video!Only note:Europe-Africa relations go a bit farther back in time than the slave trade
Yeah, we used to trade and have friendly relations with Europe back in the day, they were Hella chill, The new world fucked it up
@@wellthen4128 Not quite slaves were still imported from Africa, nearly all builders of Egypt and Rome were from Africa or (later) babarians from the North.
Carthage became rich because of slave trade.
Same goes for Congo in the age of imperialism.
@@wellthen4128 Ain't that true? Some European who were sold as slaves became important figures in the rise of the Kingdom of Aksum and they were even invited, mostly to spread Christianity, but still.
In West Africa a lot of travelers from Europe visited Timbuktu for trading with no issues.. Seriously what happened?
@@wrestlinganime4life288 What happened was the “Great Divergence.” As Europe became more technologically advanced than the rest of the world, that success got into their heads. They started thinking they were God’s gift to the world and the rest is history. The good thing is this mentality is slowly going away.
@Kryos Rome literally subjugated and conquered all of North and nile valley africa ending at Ethiopia the relationship was certainly not mutual
Hoping for the best for Europe and Africa. Love and light upon them. 💕 Peace upon the earth.
I will tell you that they stole our wealth and colonized some of our lands. They are evil. I wished they did not have nuclear weapons or weapons, so we would have crushed them with our swords
What Europe is doing for Africa? Nothing, absolutely nothing.
I guess more than you do 😉
@@Pointi69 Yes more than I do by Robbing them in the past of natural resources like Diamonds like they still do with de beers and stuff and colonizing it Robbing them further and bring slaves and then look back and wonder why they doing so bad. Then we the people pump money into these organizations like the un that could actually if they wanted to make africa a Rich place, like they did with dubai and other places.
@@Pointi69 it's still nothing
I've been following your channel for a while. The quality has really grown, and I enjoy the depth. I think an improvement in the music might be the final touch in quality this channel needs to really tip the scale.
Was going to leave this comment, the music at the end was really distracting and unbefitting of the topic you were discussing
African countries (colonies) had to pay France alone EU980 billion for their independence. In Congo, colonized slave working in plantations, had limbs chopped off if they failed to meet quota. Its hard for Africans to forget the exploitation of their resources and abused of their people in the hands of colonist masters from Europe. Europe has a serious trust deficit. Like US leaders, hard to trust what EU leaders says, they seems to have ulterior motives and hidden agenda. The imperialist and colonist mindset seems to be still lingering, doubt they will ever treat the Africans as equals. So when the Russians, Indians, Chinese etc comes along and see them as peers, its refreshing to the Africans.
@kızgın tosbağa they didn’t take shit
Ah yes the good old excuse the west had to do with colonialism and so everything it does is bad.
I have news for you 1 Every nation and civilization did some terrible shit in history, colonialism just was one of the last things, should we ask the mongols why they were the most bloody and murderous nation in history? Or why 5 of the most bloody wars in history are only Chinese wars? Or you know what? Lets go to more recent times lets go after colonialism and see why Russia murdered more people then nazi Germany (23 millions) and how Mao Zedong managed to starve 49 millions of its citizens and kill other millions of state enemies, is having the 2 most murderous dictators of the last century a good track record for helping another nation?
2 but ok lets leave the past to the past and lets look at the present.
In the present Europe gives largely the most charity to Africa and absorbs 90% of African immigrants (how many are Russia and China and India accepting).
While with some problems we actually try to mantain human rights in Africa while Russia is invading Ukraine using ridiculous excuses and China tries to hide its terrible treatment if the Uhgyurs.
We don't set debt traps to countries basically making them colonies 2.0, and we don't send mercenary groups with the fame of the Wagner group to help dictators.
You probably noted the heated tone in the comment and the reason is that this argument is stupid, there are many better arguments against Europe effectiveness in Africa, you could say we are indecisive, you could say we don't take enough risks and other things, but colonialism is a repeating and idiotic reason not to continue helping Africa like we are doing now
If you really believe that Chinese and Russian see you as equal you need to travel more.
@Sao Ham I pity your colonized mindset man truly, snap out of it. Europeans have Been shamed for years about there past so the we are better feeling is mostly faded. But Chinese and Russian still have it and way more than you think. They act nice now because it's a competition but once the west leaves and they become the only one's there you will realise your mistake. I don't understand why Africans thing they have to choose, Don't choose play them of each other be smart about the situation take advantage.
@@lekso31 I travelled a lot in last 60 years. I can see your problem is you dont see the Russians and Chinese as your equal.
If you think eu is invested in protecting Africa then your crazy
Why wouldn't it be? Isn't Africa a security risk for europe?
@@broti705 Africa is perfect for europe in a weakened state.A strong Africa who controls it's own resources is really scary for them.imagine what would Africa really want from the world.
@@broti705 It is but we shouldn't be naive : Europe have no interest in a strong,peaceful Africa
@@pierrebinyom1747 i don't see that as the case at all, theEU has been pretty supportive of the African Union and the East African Community the past. People have to stop thinking international trade is a zero sum game, a richer and more stable Africa would likely benefit Europe a lot as well and make it easier for both parties to do buisness with eachother. ASEAN is a great example of this as they have recently gone into a strategic psrtnership with the EU
@@pierrebinyom1747 False. Absolutely false. A peaceful and growing Africa is what Europeans want
Im seeing alot of discussion about how "Africans need to do this and Africans need to do that". And some of those arguments are fair, but many ignore the realities of the current relationship between African Countries and International Corporations (A topic that's rarely discussed).
I regularly hear people lament "If African Leaders were only less corrupt...", while ignoring the rampent corruption that occurs at the highest levels in the developed world. Corruption in Africa is a huge problem, but its a problem everywhere; it's just cheaper to buy an African Head of State then it is to buy the British Prime Minister (although it appears a flat refurbishment is enough now adays).
Traditional Colonialism has ended, so we need to move on from that conversation and tackle the challenges that we face today.
Multi - Nationals play rough shot over African Countries because it's profitable. African Leaders have little incentive to genuinely care about domestic issues because they're real salaries are being paid for by Shell & BP. They exists solely as Govenors in a Neo - Colonial model that no longer requires nation states to enfore their will upon the native populations. And if a leader resists, he'll be voted out (if he's lucky) or some General funded by those same interests will overthrow him. This is well documented, it's not new, and has been going on for decades.
We in the West don't hear about it in the same way that we don't hear about child laborers in South East Asia, because inorder to maintain the low prices of goods our supply chain must be exploitative otherwise it would impact corporate earnings.
So let's be honest, Africa is poor because it must be for us to sustain our current consumption model. If we paid anywhere near fair value for the raw materials we extract from Africa and the Labor we use in Asia you'd have to pay 10k for the next iPhone.
Corruption in the EU and in Africa is not comparable
True, but when push comes to shove nation states DO act in Africa to secure their (and their multinational corporation's) interests. The world has changed, but not so much that the origin of power and capital doesn't matter.
@@sergior. Why not?
@@FOLIPE That's true!
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The only reason why they are doing this is because china is slowly taking control of africa and if they fully gain control of africa,china would be unstoppable in terms of power and materials so eu and america wants to aviod that.
you are viewing it from a colonizer mentality.
china is not "taking control" of africa or of america or the middle east.
they are making trade deals with america africa and the middle east.
do you understand the difference?
that's sadly not a rhetorical question.
@@sabin97 I want you to watch every time an African or even Latin American diplomat do speeches on trade deals with China. China is literally writing their scripts. The deals are called “win-win” but somebody is winning far more than the other.
Nope its because before it was controlled by the west cia coups invasion etc so now we support Russia and China who never had have done none of those its only the beginning most African countries are afraid of sanctions or else they would openly support Russia and China and the majority of African population especially the youth don't support the west and its a win win China wants to surpass the us Africans want to develop if Africans countries start electing real leaders uncorruptable independent minded especially from the west while working with China and Russia amd other countries that's the only good future for Africa either way we rather choose Russia over the west any day
@sabin97
I feel like when they talk about how "China is trying to take control of Africa", it's some sort of subconscious projection because they can't fathom doing actual business with African countries instead of exploiting them.
China is not taking control of Africa... Africans are not Stupid, but Chinese partnership is far better than anything many Colonizers can put on the table.
Africa shouldn't be still under control from foreign powers, especially Europe. The African countries should unite and produce products for it's development and people
I agree but when an African nation becomes too good at governing it's people America starts a civil war speed run
The Africa countries have had thousands of years to combine forces, but
This isn't really about control and more about building better ties for both sides, but honestly, I would be more worried about China than I would with the EU because China aim is to get more control over shows African countries by using debt trap diplomacy.
I think if the EU is to be successful in Africa, it has to offer something better than what China is offer, money helps in the short term but overall, it doesn't make that much of a dent in economic growth, what Africa needs is know-how in building a modern economy, the EU is very successful in doing that as it's shown with countless countries that joined the EU and became a lot richer for it.
If the EU helps Africa to develop, that would be worth far more than any money the EU or China gives Africa because the know-how will allow Africa to stand on it's own feet, that would be far more useful than throwing money at the problem which a lot of it gets wasted anyway, but then, it's up to the African countries to choose.
I agree 100% but that's definitely easier said than done. Every nation that's powerful today had to give in and cooperate with other countries.
@@paul1979uk2000 what debt trap explains last I've heard is that China has forgiven a lot of debt what debt has the western world has ever forgiven plus is not the western countries that offer money to countries then privately own their resources making paying back loans impossible
Good video, but as an African with a master in finance I must set the record straight. There's is absolutely no true aid from EU. The so-call aid all comes with strings attached in form of mineral extraction rights, conditions to borrow from only from western institutions like world bank and IMF which comes with very high interest rates, keep the economies of Africa heavily indebted which they further use as leverage. The dark side they don't tell you is, this loans and aid are forced on Africa, if a country refused any of them, their leaders will be labelled and call dictator. France on the other hand goes as far as inciting rebellions in the countries so they can come in as "peacekeepers" and along comes French companies to extract the country's resources. Now you know.
if that is the case, African people that live in France would protest and riot 24/7 the French government for what it is doing to the African countries these people came from.
I think everything is much more in the grey area than simply black&white.
Wow, this channel was such an awesome find!
Your ability to go beyond the stated policies into their mutual contradictions is what's missing in so many channels that nominally aim to enlighten and inform. This feels more akin to old school reporting of "here's what happened, these are the factors that go into this, don't take any one side's word on things" and show the actions, history and motivations of what's driving this *now* is superb.
Best of luck to you guys. You're on the path to greatness! :)
Thank you, this is precisely what I am trying to do! This is actually now my favorite comment in a very long time.
Thank you for this :)
Cheers,
Hugo
Is this your first time seeing a video that barely passes as informative and with a smidge of critical analysis or something? Everything he mentions is basically a compilation of common knowledge that can be found in just a few clicks.
Great video :). Love your content.. your channel was a big part of what inspired me to start my own. Keep up the good work
all good and dandy, but 150 billion is just nothing in comparison to the investment size of China in Africa
China has peaked and is falling
@@jerrymiller9039 which part of it?
@@jerrymiller9039 we will see
Yeah but that 150 million will go into work rather than the pockers of local corrupt leaders.
The main difference between western loans and Chinese loans is that China doesn't care where it's loan goes since they would prefer to just grab a good port or piece of land to getting the money paid back.
EU is spending 50-90 billion EVERY YEAR for decades in development aid. But africans like to ignore that fact.
1) Mineral extraction: how does Africa benefit from this exploitation?
2) Export market: how many local business will go bankrupt as a result?
3) Global standards will only work for western companies opening business in Africa, see 2).
4) Migration control is mostly self-serving for the EU. The only new jobs will mostly benefit western companies, see 1) and 2)
5) Stability and security... After invading Africa not long ago and leaving it to its own devices since, the instability is due to European meddling. Now they're hoping to fix the problems they've caused? Again, this is arrogant and self-serving to the extreme.
6) 'Push visions and values'. In other words: this is just modern day colonialism. Where in all this are the values of the African peoples respected?
This whole thing reeks of a knee-jerk reaction to China's presence and involvement in the continent. Before building infrastructures and dumping its own companies on the continent, how about Europe invest in _toilets_ for schools? In medical care for the more remote regions? In access to clean water and food across the continent? Hell, do we even know the state of each country and where its _real_ problems lie, and how we can implement solutions that will _not_ cause the opposite effect?
EU has no business in Africa, and that's me saying that as a European, "western"-country citizen.
this is a neoliberal propaganda channel
"5) Stability and security... After invading Africa not long ago and leaving it to its own devices since, the instability is due to European meddling. Now they're hoping to fix the problems they've caused? Again, this is arrogant and self-serving to the extreme."
Yeah sure:D africans fight each other with spears because Europeans did some diamond business there 100 year ago
@@AD-ro6yp I think this video can explain it better than I ever could: th-cam.com/video/LvKONiRHgkU/w-d-xo.html
I found interesting that Europe has not realised one major difference: Africa is not a continent with just Black people, but even with the Arab-speaking inhabitants also live there. Basically, Africa is actually divided into two halves: the Arab and the Black.
The Arabs of Africa (Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Mauritania, Somalia, Djibouti, Comoros, Sudan and possibly, Chad) has a stronger connection with Europe and Middle East. These people do not like Europe much (though their tie is also ancient), but they do not trust Russia strong enough to believe on Russian media. This is because, they have been deeply influenced by Turkey and Saudi Arabia. And the Turks as well as the Saudis dislike Russia to some extent. The Turks have fought Russia since 16th century, while the Saudis issued global jihad against Russia during the war in Afghanistan at 1980s and Chechnya at 1990s. The Muslim Arabs of Africa have mostly heard the calls against Russia because of either these powers, Muslim Arabs of Africa did volunteer for the Ottomans, a lot of African Arabs have arrived to Afghanistan and Chechnya.
The Blacks of Africa, on the other hand, have no such connection. Without Turkish and Saudi influence, they have very little contact until the European colonisation, where the Europeans brutalised them. As such, they found Russia their only saviours, and they deeply resented Europe and America for the collapse of Soviet Union in 1991. Many of these nations sent students to study in USSR during its height, and that link was maintained even after the end of USSR. These people are more prone to Russian influence because of France's actions in Africa and the American quiet support have made them resenting Europe even more, making them less likely to receive European aids. When Mali and Central African Republic have coups in 2021, many of these people celebrated Russian arrival.
This is even witnessed during the 2022 Russian-Ukrainian War. Arabs of Africa are aware of the Ukrainian Muslims (Crimean Tatars, Chechens,...) going to fight against Russia, while Blacks of Africa volunteered in the Russian invading side and some are even now in the frontline helping the Russians. Yet it is basically the old scar returning, due to history of Arab enslavement and racism against Black Africans.
If Europe wants to build successful tie with Africa, it should try to rebuild tie with the Black part, apologising for its crimes, and ending France's neo-colonialism. With the Arab part, Europe should provide a scheme of cooperation and support together, at the same time also try to encourage the Arabs there to rebuild relations with the Blacks. Only there, Europe can finally have some good peace.
So Africa even fights against each other. How ironic. But I guess this explains why China, Russia and EU have such different investment style.
@João P K No. But this is just I found that Africans even distrust each other. We are not taught about that before.
@@josephjoestar5690 you aren't?! Even in a tiny continent like europe there are manu conflicts, what do you expect of a massive one like africa, one with such a difficult history (colonialism)
@@FOLIPE I am Canadian, so literally I do not grow up learning European history. I am aware of the slave trades though, but I don't know much about it.
@@josephjoestar5690 What do you learn in Canada, then, not african history or European history... I guess only canadian history?
the first step to peace in africa would be to have africa draw its own borders instead of using borders drawn by europeans in the 1890s
They are free to do so since 1960s, and already plenty of countries redrew their borders.
People love to critize the African borders, but they are not worst than the ones drew in 1914 and 1945 after both WW in Europe.
People should stop advocating for ethnostates in Africa that are pure fantasy anyway.
The issue in Africa are not at all the frontiers.
That's opening a Pandora's box sadly, Africa still needs to open it's borders and let Africans travel with in Africa with ease.
Basically, EU wants Africa to develop taking EU needs into consideration. Ursula said that if funding projects in Africa leads to helping Chinese investment, EU doesn't want to fund those projects. EU says it wants to be a reliable partner with Africa but so far it seems EU wants to continue it's centuries of abusive relationship.
@@cabidela We here talking about developing a country and you bring up example of banks??? You do know that relationship build by countries are vastly different compared to banks.
Anyways, if I am not mistaken, it's EU who wants to increase there influence in Africa for better future. The EU leaders also want to show EU helping in the development of Africa. But at the same time if helping Africa means profit for China, EU doesn't want to help Africa anymore.
EU messaging all over the place like everything these days. All the talk of become a reliable partner goes do the drain if EU keeps it current policies.
Lastly, since you brought up banks. Let me remain you than EU's current declining influence in Africa is because they acted like banks. Only funding projects than profited EU massively and almost no funding to develop Africa.
@@crishhari5903 While I totally agree that we Europeans didn’t treat you well, I don’t get why you believe this would be different with a Chinese or even Russian partnership.
Every nation or union has its own interest in mind.
@@tempo5366 More options, better bargaining power.
Add to that, so far China has been a much better partner compared to EU. Only time will tell if China is reliable long term but long history with Europe has already shown EU approach and bad faith.
That being said, African countries need to work together for better future and be less reliable on outside forces. But for the time being, assistance from outside is needed.
@@tempo5366 Europeans believe that the Chinese will carry out the cruel, vile and degenerate acts that they themselves did. Hahahahaha it is not possible to overcome the cruelty, racism and hypocrisy with which Europe treated Africa
I know what the European project´s aim is. If you search inside the soul of an average democratic voter, you find a thirst for justice, agreement, mutual support and a path to a better future. This is the foundation that an enlightened, educated, free voter wants. This is the building blocks in the foundation of a civilization.
If you want fast solutions, censorship, fugitive politicians or extreeme inequality, do not look to Europe.
Europe left Africa after centuries of Brutal slavery and colonialism. But the 100s of trillions looted have never been paid back. So until you pay what's owed you have no say in any African matters. Sooner you start the payment, the lesser would be the interest.
It would take 2-3 centuries but hey France did collect debt for more than a century from Haiti for daring to become independent
And both of those things are justified?
Well I get your point but how about some realism?
France had to use military and diplomatic means to enforce interest payments
How many people are starving in Africa at the moment?
How many would do it if Europe stopped helping you (Europe is the whole west in this case)
Does China have the means to break a blockade of the West
Man comes from Africa but what civilizational achievements have here to assign
Even starting with agriculture, there were other nations
Without the rest of the world you would still be living in the Stone Age
Nobody held you back for the last 50 years, you screwed it up yourself
@@herrputschy54 Lol
that's like saying why doesn't a retired school teacher retire like a retired billionaire?
that's how immature and full of yourself Europe sounds.
Do you wonder why 85% of the countries don't agree that any genocide is going on in China?
Wonder why no one supported Europe against Russia in UN. Wonder why India abstained?
Wonder why no one seems to care about Europe freezing this winter.
@@herrputschy54 and where was the so called "realism" when NATO was expanding towards Russia?
@@nik6304 the countries wanted to be part of NATO and they still still Safe
If Russia had become democratic, the world would look different today
“Whoever wins Africa, will win the next century” -Jude Cutler
Lol shut up
@@RA-ms3je lol, hopefully it would be best if Sub Saharan Africa could succeed on its own without too much foreign investment
@@quotes612 how would it do that? Africa neither have the funds, infrastructure or human resources (educated population, and trusted institutions) to succeed on its own at the moment
@@Luking2 strike a fair deal with china , thy will take their money and run for Africa.
@@Luking2Africa can buy infrastructure with resources and if African immigrants go home they will have Human Resources. You act as if most European are educated most work wage slave jobs
Your channel is incredible, the scripting, the video editing, and the knowledge. Well done sir!
Thank you! :)
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The fact that they're doing this to combat China's influence in Africa is crazy. It took China coming in to help Africa rebuild themselves for the people who actually destroyed Africa to come back and clean up their mess.
The problem is, China isn't doing this to help Africa, its entrapment with debt traps and control over a lot of Africa resources and in some ways, even a land grab which isn't in the interest of the African people but I think it will be too late before they realize that but I hope I'm wrong on that.
China didn't rebuild anything. They are just the new colonizers.
Yep!
That is just false information: 1) The European Union is not responsible for the destruction of Africa. Colonisation of Africa is something that was done until the early 20th century while the EU didn't come to existence until 1993, and it started centuries earlier with even non-European countries involved such as Egypt.
2) The EU has been supporting all African countries with money, material, military aid and education since the year 2000 with an estimated investment of over 60 billion euros - and now they signed a deal for an additional 150 billion euros making a total of 210 billion euros. 3) China has been investing into African countries on a small scale since the 1980s with the overwhelming majority going to South Africa, Sudan, Nigeria, Sambia and Algeria. Recently, it started to focus on more countries with political instability and where the EU isn't investing the most such as Ethiopia. Altogether, it is estimated that China invested 148 billion euros with its priorities being the development of oil extraction, transportation and the development of internet / telecommunication. While all of these investments are generally beneficial for these countries, they are ultimately done in a way that isn't appropriate by decent morality standards given the fact that the transportation services have harsh dept clauses and can immediately by seized by China, there already are election manipulation scandals in the Central African Union due to Beijing's hacking involvement as well as spying technology, and as the video depicted properly: No investments and building processes have human rights standards which ultimately means that in some instances, Chinese investors are treating the locals in a similar way that pre-20th century colonisers did to them.
China is a significant investor in African countries for the past decade now. However, in order to be less criticised and actually build sustainable networks that improve the overall quality of life of African citizens, the target nations need to work with harsher regulations - similar to what the EU does - so that they aren't being spied on, they don't fall prey to greedy infrastructure owners, their elections stay democratic and their people have safe work conditions with proper payment!
@@akumayoxiruma yes it is, france still is a bad actor in africa and is in the EU.
while EU can't be blame for what happen 100 years ago it can be blamed for what happen today, cooperation pay off officials against African countries interest in favor of EU never mind EU intervention to protect those interest every now and then to protect those cooperations.
lastly fuck no didn't u hear? EU doesn't support with military aid, they intervene against whom ever they don't like but they don't sell weapon hence why russia is often the one that sell them.
EU miltiray aid = coup against who oppose us
This video is beautiful 🤩
Great video love from Netherlands
I'm rooting for Africa to get everything they can
Western countries suddenly discovered that Africa could be realistically a huge market for their affairs and realized also that China was trying to seize it entirely.
What a surprise.
Why these people doesnt study a bit of Machiavelli?
Post colonial European imperialism (mostly french and British)
5:50 Ehh, the Europeans are pulling out of Mali while Russian Wagner presence is increasing and relations with Russia getting closer.
The title doesn’t make any sense whatsoever, because it’s impossible to say ‘Europe’ ‘IS doing’. What France is doing in Africa might be the complete opposite of what Italy would like to see happen in Africa, actually we’ve seen in the past for example, as in the case with Libya, how the interests of different European countries can completely clash with one another. For instance, France wanted to get rid of Gadhafi, whereas Italy absolutely wanted to keep Gaddafi in power.
12:43 If it has to distance itself from that legacy, than its impossible.
We live on the same planet lol
The Europeans said for many years, Africa is a lost continent that could not be saved. The same haunted faces now say they want to help and invest in Africa. Don't believe that crap.
Mali, well done! ✌️
No serious Europeans said that.
Yeah good job Mali for doing a pro Russian coup, as they are now dying by hundreds killed by terrorists and Mali/Warner mercenaries. Good job.
Don’t come to Europe then, thanks
@@mrsupremegascon Mali propaganda again nothing will bring back wretched France in Mali, France should kick rocks for all we care and fckoff
@@nicola.innocenti enjoy the winter freezing to death Z
This is a classical case of the hunter becoming the hunted.
Great Video! Just a slight remark: there has not been any confirmed case of China's right to seize infrastructure in case of default (what you mention at 7:50), despite all the talk about Chinese debt traps. You might want to check your sources on that one. Other than that, nicely done video about an interesting topic which definitely deserves more attention!
Yeah the whole dept trap thing is a bit overexaggerated. PolyMatter made a great video on the topic. The fact is there's no actual evidence to show they are partaking in dept trap diplomacy. The thing they are actually doing is just giving out massive loans to anybody and everybody to curry favour and influence, but in the vast majority of cases where investments do fail they forgive the depts.
Here's PolyMatter's video:
th-cam.com/video/7gwgcIfzttA/w-d-xo.html
Hmm, I had read about Chinese infrastrucutre deals being quite harsh in general, but indeed it does seem you are right about the debt trap, I wasn't sufficiently informed (I looked into the Sri Lanka port treaty, which turns out is something different from what I had originally thought).
Thanks for your comment!
Cheers,
Hugo
Well, it is true, no key african infrastructure has been yet ceded to China, as of today the countries that have been enslaved to china via debt are all in Asia (Laos, Myanmar, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Sri Lanka, Pakistan) but if you can imagine what happens next for many african countries. China decides what infrastructure to build in african countries to fit chinese needs, zambia owes to china 5bn, angola 16 5 bn (each roughly 25% of their own GDP), Mozambique 2bn(10% of GDP), these are insane numbers tied to projects that will have only a limited impact on african countries economies overall. Unfortunately these countries are destined to become colonies again unless someone else step in to bail them out and save them.
@@xyris1208 and who is this someone that youre talking about? Europeans? 😂 fk me! 21st century and youre still playing superhero saving humanity. Get a grip!
@@IntoEurope I think the argument is the clauses are in there, and China could choose to use them if it wanted even if they haven't yet. At the moment China is trying to buy friends in Africa, they're playing the long game, so it probably doesn't make much sense for them to spring any of these traps at the moment.
BRI from China, B3W from the US and G7, and now the Global Gateway from the EU. Is there a Russian or Indian initiative like these?
India has still a lot to do for themselves (but they might want to start to invest too) & Russia is entering a gloomy economic future. Engaged in pseudo-trench warfare and having pushed aside their economic problems to the coming years. I doubt anything will come from Russia, that country is done until they get their democracy right
Russia was semi creator of BRI too. BRI would have been impossible without Russias land connection or intl bureaucracy, wise
Russia steals Ukrainian resources and sells them to Africa, and they are a major provider of military equipment to problematic warlords... Indians often set up business outposts amid their clans, but seems like they often develop resentment and hostility, because of obnoxious behavior or jealousy from locals...
@@assertivekarma1909 are you talking about grains ? Cause what resources magically appear on drone and rockets battlefield unless blasts can dig
what is b3w
Europe gets resources out of Africa with low prices and keep it undeveloped for centuries🤓
Yeah... when the judge gives the final judgement, it's based on the criminals past history. I would say the same applies here. Africa won't close its doors to Europe, but will have a huge impact on how Africa will deal with Europe.
A big flaw of your logic is that countries aren’t a single entity, criminals are. Most of the people that colonised are already dead. You wouldn’t say that someone is a criminal because their grandfather killed someone. Africa still should be cautious with the EU but it’s just not the same.
@@miagatwa2457 bullshit! The impact of colonization is still strong in Africa. Apartheid was still well and running in the late 20th century. Those who experienced apartheid are still alive to tell their stories. These African countries gained their independence in the 60s and many people who fought for independence are still Alive. So educate yourself before you go on a foolish moral lecture. The truth of the matter is Africa should guard itself from Europe. FYI, we are talking about countries that colonized and massacred people. Not grandfathers.. the countries that colonized are still well and running so his point was valid.
@@miagatwa2457 Your take is naive, at best. I give you two reasons:
(1) People in Europe are still benefiting from the crimes of dead colonisers. Acting as is the past has no consequences in the present will not do.
(2) European countries and corporations take advantage of African nations to this day.
It's too late for EU to gain Africa trust and will need a titanic effort to convince we are here to help. On a serious side Russia propaganda against the EU is true to a certain extent. I have my country, Romania as an example. Even though we are a member state since 2007, we are still badly viewed in other member states such as Germany, we are not a Shengen space member mainly because Holland is opposed to our adherence and since the pandemic there now exist a palpable faction in favour of leaving the EU. Even though since joining living standards has improved , we are still the main exporter of skilled labour for EU states such as Italy, Spain, France and Germany, with each passing year hundreds of Romanians leave to work in Wester European nations. Because of this we became a sort of a poster child for propaganda of why joining or make deals with EU would make you a economic colony.
sounds like your government is blaming all its problems on the west, like poland. not being part of schengen and brain drain are bad, sure, but that doesnt account for being an economic colony.
Just goes to show that people will always find something to complain about..
And that is when you are an insider, allowed to move and receiving subsidies, having institutional power. None of that is in the line for Africa
Economic colony ? Are you hearing yourself
First Romania joined before meeting all the necessary criteria and thus is not part of Schengen of the eurozone the pandemic thing is first very understandable and second a very rare occurrence
Second Romania isn't kept out of the eurozone and Schengen almost every EU state HAS to eventually integrate into the two areas and there's no incentive whatsoever economic or otherwise for the other states to keep us out
And third Romania has seen some of the fastest growth not just in Europe but the world thanks to the EU and while yes the mass migration is a very bad issue it can't compare to the sheer economic miracle of our state and you can't just dismiss it as "living standards have improved" everything is better than it's ever been
If you call this colonisation than good sir check the dictionary
@@FarsightAE couldn't have said it better myself
Europe still colonizing Africa.
What europe is REALLY doing in Africa? Ask Desmond Tutu.
"When the missionaries came to Africa, they had the Bible and we had the land. They said “let us close our eyes and pray.” When we opened them, we had the Bible, and they had the land."
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lol
This is exactly what happened to african continent , specially chrishtian countries.
Another great video, as always
'Rekindling EU's relationship with Africa'? Poorly worded sentiment based on a misguided reading of EU's own history in Africa.
0:41 "What is Europe doing in Africa?" That is a good question someone should've asked a long time ago!
Let’s face it Europe just doesn’t have the materials needed for their EV’s
they don’t even have the industrial capacity to process some resources and create alloys for electric vehicles (batteries), most of this industry is located in China.
Spain also has military operations going on in Mali, Djibouti and Senegal if I’m not mistaken.
not just that but they still have occupied ceuta and melilla. so it's understandable that africans wont trust the colonizers......because they are STILL colonizers.....
If the EU wanted to do these things, they would of done it already. Not when China is doing it. Anyway they have enough problems at home with Russia. I think they should focus of that. I see the begining of the end for them 😢
RIP European Disunion
The EU is a massive economy and can focus on both things, besides, the issues with Russia and energy is very short term of just a few years, not a big deal overall.
As for helping Africa, I agree, the EU should have helped a long time ago, but things tend to have a reactive effect depending on what others are doing, in this case China.
Personally, I think China is trapping many countries in Africa with debt trap diplomacy, that's not a good thing because it could make those countries poorer in the long run whiles signing over assets over to China as they can't pay off the debts, it's a smart move from China but it's bad news for Africa, but for many, it's too little too late already.
@@paul1979uk2000 I like your optimism about Russia and energy being a short term problem. What are they suppose to do for these few years without Russian supply btw? For eg. in Germany, even they reach 100% stock pile, this will only last few winter month. Thats why they have been running to other countries like Qatar to give them gas, who refused them btw. What are the other options? Renewable energy? Since they reopened the coal mines something tells me that this is still a joke. Only way is to reach a concession with Russia, which is what the citizens of the EU has realized, which is why there was massive protest in the last days there. Given that the EU thinks it is still a unipolar world where they dictate to everyone what to do with their master the great USA, i Dont think they will concede, which makes me believe it not gono end soon.
@@paul1979uk2000 It is always funny to read comments like these coming from the west about China entrapping African countries through insfracture and other projects. Western countries have been doing the exact same thing in a much more brutal way to entrap countries, through regimes changes, bloody foreign occuption. And when they finish destroying that target country, they give to it an IMF loan that they surely wont be able to pay back so they can exploit you more. So dont tell me you actuallly give 2 cents about african exploition. Atleast China is helping them make some progress, instead of bombing and colonizing.
@@paul1979uk2000 It is almost 2023 and there are still people who believe in china debt traps...
Am I the only one who noticed he highlighted “Guyane française” as well? Other than that great video.
It is part of the EU actually :)
Cheers,
Hugo
@@IntoEurope I know that I’m from there hahah!
@@IntoEurope Ita a colony. Europe and the West try to propagate a narrative of "freedom" but actually possess a colonial empire till this day.
I did notice ! Not many video creators do that when showing the EU on a map, so that was appreciated.
No you aren't.
I don't think our relations with Africa will be easy anytime soon, but if this is needed, then we must provide as an alternative offer. China and Russia have succeeded in providing disinformation and financial muscles so these Africans switched to the Chinese and Russians. And I also think that France must end its currency manipulation in Africa.
Its odd how europeans are so quick to say africans are misinformed and manipulated as soon as Africa choses not to follow Europe, instead of asking why sovereign African nations have considered it to be their interest to have deeper relations with this or that country
Africans have an independent will to think what is true news and what is false news. Do you think Africans have lower IQ than you?
Excuse me....'these Africans'? Funny how when Africans make a decision, we know nothing. This is exactly why we're partnering more with China and Russia, because the mentality of Europe is we are always the people who need help. You're the ones who have been misinformed time after time by your media to think Africa is poor and cannot help itself. Travel abit and educate yourself on matters Africa and you'll see that in less than a hundred years half the world human population will be African. You can not to deal with us as your inferiors anymore....You sound Japanese but I'll group you with the Europeans since we know the racism against Africans stretches to the far East also.
@@FOLIPE That kind of mentality is the reason why China has been more successful than them
I am an African and what you just said is one of the reasons we can never trust you guys. You think we are dumb. We know what is going on and we know that you people are liars.
Imagine if the EU(mainly germany ofc) invested these 150 BILLION in the EU??? Desperately needed aswell
Wonderful and informative!
I only have one thing to say, Europe haven’t done enough harm to the continent of Africa specially France.
Huh??
LoL
Least brainswashed european:
I guess you are French?
I guess you're deeply sleeping 😴
Africa will be better if Europe and specially France leave it. Europe should take care of europe's problems and Africa should deals with their problems.
Scramble for Africa 2.0. New colonialisation.
Great video. Europe is Making believe it's only on Africa 's interests when we all know the resources are all in Africa and europe benefits greatly.The race for Africa part 2
Will Africa win. This time will they prioritise educational it's citizens or banning and shopping it's financial proceeds in Europe, which Europeans can confiscate at will, Russia is learning the hard way and Russia is an equal to all of Europe.
The saddest thing is not that Russia and China are doing the same thing that Europe has done centuries ago... the saddest thing is that Europe doesn't seem to be able to offer a more practical, fair, peaceful and, ultimately, meaningful alternative! I can only hope it changes quickly. Respect is the most important word!
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wrong, when did the EU forgive debts to africans like china did recently?
China did not colonize and genocide Africans a century ago or today or tomorrow. The Europeans did and will again. Leopard does not change its spots. And what do you expect from evil former and neo-colonial imperialists?
Not really speaking as an African and descendant of freedom fighters. Russia China relations are mutual beneficial. The give loan to Africans at reasonable rates. build infrastructure for us base on our needs. The western always take and are only beneficial to them. China brokers deals for affordable oil for Africans from the Arab world the west sell us over priced oils. China build manufacturing plants in Africa then export made products from Africa to china creating employment and a self sustaining industry. the west steals raw materials in Africa enslaved the Africans to work on their projects and fight their wars, burnt down settlements of entire tribes and stole their Land (The Belgians committed genocide of over 6 million Africans in central Africa ), stole sacred artifacts that are still on display in Europe today. Don't compare the western savagery to the support of offered by the East
China is doing the same thing that Europe has done centuries ago? Really? So China is committing the worst genocide that the world has ever seen and enslaving the native population? Can I get the sources on that one?
What China is doing is leagues better than what the EU is CURRENTLY doing, which is trying it's best to keep neocolonialism alive and keep benefiting from past genocides...
Great video as always 👍
As an African (ethiopian) I don't like European investments, they are not so different from Chinese, they come to invest and employ Europeans like Chinese companies, it won't make difference for us
We, Africans, want to move to higher chains of export and self sufficiency, but Europeans want to take chances by, for example, building internet connections across Africa, while there are African companies trying to expand by African employees and allowing us to have our own expertise, but we, Africans, would lose our professional jobs in Telecommunications and engineering because of European dominance, and only be employed as temporary builders.
Simply, we will be in disadvantage in the long run, Europeans are just not helping
The Chinese at least make clear what they want and do their Job quick and Efficient. The West is just there to scam us.
@Swedish and Nordic. They whined about being replaced in their own country by chinese and european workers. Something that you nordicks,out of all people,should understand
@Swedish and Nordic. brainlet
Outside investment often requires outside expertise and efficient methodology to be cost effective. Africa has responsibilities also, and further reforms need to be made, constantly blaming others is a counterproductive strategy. I do agree projects should try and utilize local people to a greater degree, for needed jobs and skill development. Some appreciation for global/western aid & technology wouldn't hurt either, instead of only angry rants.
Europeans don't hate Africans, my friend. The problem is (corporate) capitalism and neocolonialism. As a European myself I would love to see a developed Africa free from meddling geopolitical powers all around the world.
But that doesn't mean we can't cooperate as African and European citizens.
this is colonizing Africa again.
Morocco is investing a lot in Africa too
Europe needs to settle the old deal before proposing a new deal.
The old colonial deal was based on exploitation, Europe must take responsibility for its actions and that includes Reparations.
Only then can the beginnings of a new deal be discussed.
Anything else is a waste of time.
Reparations for what? Africans selling out their own country and enslaving their own people?
the EU still considers Africa a colony - the world leaders kept saying that the ships with wheat blocked in Ukraine will become a reason why Africa will startve in 2022/2023. The ships were unblocked. Only 1 out of 30 released ships went to Africa, the rest went to the Wester Europe. That is all we need to know about European policy towards Africa.
Russia made the blockade and tried to destroy Ukraine and starved Africa, so don't blame EU for something Russia caused.
north africa had food shortages and +300 million were in risk of famine.
After 3 months. They already looked for other supplier. No idea but atleast you open your mouth lol
I recall when the Covid vaccines finally came out... African countries desperately asked for their share, or asked to be allowed to produce generics for themselves at least. But, Western countries just hoarded everything for themselves, even when they had enough doses to vaccinate every one of their citizens several times. That made me feel so mad.
@@valerievankerckhove9325 EU kept exporting vaccines from the start while every other big power in the world hoarded. 🤨
I had listened enough with little Mermaid, and she can't even solve the EU oil/gas crisis and inflations. Time will tell if she can last till early 2023.
Being from Portugal, despite all the historically bad actions and cultural differences we have, that leads into an understandable suspicion that the vast majority of African countries might have toward Europe's intentions... imo the fact is that honest and genuine cooperation between Europe and Africa is the best and logical way forward for both continents and the people that live in it! Europe needs to be humble, come to terms and accept it's historical mistakes (that hurt Africa so much) and fully recognize that not only us, but the entire world, needs a stronger, richer and more robust Africa if we genuinely want Humanity to have a brighter future. African countries as a all, nowadays, also need to recognize that they do need help from outside to live in peace, develop and have a better future for the people living in it. Again, as a Portuguese and European that does not have an heroic or romanticized view about the Age of Exploration... i do think it is time for a new Era (in my mind i call it the Age of Knowledge) an Era where Europe and Africa (after countless centuries of brainless wars, poverty, famine, racial discrimination and brainless superstitions) can come together as an example of what a more advanced, more humane, more knowledgeable, understanding and compassionate Humanity can be! Europe needs Africa, Africa needs Europe and that's a fact!... But, way more important than that, the entire world needs to come together and Africa plays a central role in that future! I can only hope that Europe is the one that helps, in every way it can, to make that future a reality! It might be considered a naive and utopian point-of-view but... if you can't dream of a fairer and better future for everyone living in a World without people dying from famine, wars, natural disasters and poverty... then what is the point of it?! Never forget that Humans, at the end of the day and above everything else (even gods or demons of any kind) are simply and thankfully that: just (but also) Humans! The best thing about it?... We can all change to survive and become stronger and better together!
You are right for everything except Africa does not need EU. Africa just need to be left alone so it can rebuild its own ways and help the world.
The problem is, Africa desires to divorce Europe. Drop European languages and even forgo anything that Europe thinks it can offer Africa (whatever that is) if it means that is the only way to de-tach, de-link and divorce Europe. We envy the Russians for going through a messy divorce. That one is true independence, that we desire. Our fights and battles for the past centuries have always been about getting rid of Europe. Generally Europeans just don't get what humanity is all about. They only talk about it when they want to manipulate or manouver. They are our mortal enemies, enemies of our existence, they have been engaging in all sorts of methods, direct and inderect, underground and above the ground with a sole purpose and final goal of eradicating us and taking our mother continent. The same way they took Ausie and Kanada as well as us of a. They also belive and wish others could just forget and move on as if nothing happened. They don't want the historical injustices to be addressed, which they are still committing by the way, and the only reason they advocate for some partnership that is based on fairness is because they are losing grip, not because they are truly humane and remorseful. On our part, we don't want to avenge anyone, we just want to be left alone and live our African lifes, without anyone attempting to de-Africanise us because we are not the same. We are Africans and they are Europeans.
@@odis.x Agreed. 😎👌
@@odis.x it sounds like you're advocating for isolationism, which has historically been a really poor policy choice as it leads countries stagnating and not doing as much innovation as when it participates actively on the world stage. A good historical example of this is China during the Ming and Qing empires where their isolationist policies played a large role in making what was once one of the richest countries in the world into a technologically inferior backwater open for European colonisation.
@@Luking2 advocating for cooperation with Asia and the US not with europe we have enough of you also europe us weak.
Great analysis
I pray to Allah to help us Africans to escape from the captivation of the puppet leaders and corruption politicians which the west used to explote Africa amine ya rabbi barkai khassida yii amine
Before accepting new deals, Africa should request to nullify or modify old unfavorable deals. Else there'll be contradictions.
I don't think African countries have enough bargaining power with enteties like China and the IMF for that to be successful
@@Luking2 the resources they need for their advanced economies disagree. Without the Congo more than 40% of the world's cobalt would vanish
@@franzjoseph1837 Well wonderfully the Congolese government is ineffective, corrupt, and doesn’t even have complete control over it’s internationally recognized borders. No one else really needs them, and resource extraction can still happen even in the middle of a war
@@franzjoseph1837 luckily we will be using it less as we are researching alternatives
@@thereap5348 alternatives to Cobalt? There are only three ferromagnetic transition elements. Iron, Nickel, and Colbalt. There are no alternatives to this as these are essential in almost all electrically powered manufactured goods for their special interaction with electrical currents that isn't replicated in other elements.
This video sounds more about ‘competition with China and Russia’ than ‘help Africa’, or ‘do business in Africa’.
And I guess that’s what’s wrong with European’s attitude towards Africa-it’s never about the Africans.
as african for once and all we do not need europe leave us alone
you want chinese debt traps or american FREEDOM?????
@@heartsofiron4ever american freedom??? that is the funniest word i have ever heard, bro america do not give freedom they give guns.
@@heartsofiron4everAmerican racism...
4:52 on the map it shows that high speed rail is between Tangier and oran, it’s tangier and Casablanca, oran is in algeria
it's easier said than done, have you ever asked your self how much Africa gains per year to be able to fund industries even railways, roads, ports, etc my countries budget for a year is 20trillion naira which is that like the equivalent of 409billion dollars this money was even able to come to life because of more borrowing.
African countries don't have the funds to develop faster than you think, people think Africa is poor because It chose to be not knowing that its the system that makes them poor and with this increase in interest rates it just makes matters worse. China is the only country that is making an effort to a developed Africa, thanks to the loans they gave us we now have a better rail network we have a big port still under construction and our international airports can receive the expansion that it desperately needs. Europe knows how to solve Africa's problems but prefer not to solve it cause Africa's current state favours them.
The problem is the Africans, mainly the Sub-Saharan states, have immense dislike against Europe because they think the whole continent exploits Africa, even though countries like Poland, Romania, Croatia, Finland, Norway or Greece have never embarked on military colonialism or campaigns in Africa, unlike the British and French (mainly). This is why many of these people support the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and some are even now sent to Ukraine by Putin.
However, Russia is economically incompetent, so the EU must usher this advantage by providing a new economic scheme that will develop Africa. Instead of just France maintaining monopoly (which was the reason for Europe being blamed), we should together rebuild African nations.
Those Arab countries of Africa may need a little difference, since they distrust Russia more than those Sub-Saharan states (these people used to fight against Russia in Afghanistan and Chechnya in the name of jihad from Mecca).
These nations support Russia's oppression and colonisation of Ukraine because they themselves were once oppressed and colonised? How does that make any sense?
Eastern European countries didn't join colonialism, but now they join the EU which has neocolonial policies towards Africa. If they want to be perceived differentlyI suppose they should change that mentality withing the EU, but its not like eastern europe is imune from colonial mentality just because it didn't partake in colonization
@@FOLIPE Then why do you go to Northern and Eastern Europe then???
@@TylerSolvestri I don't?
@@TylerSolvestrisame reason these countries go to Africa to get resources for peanuts.
As an African, to Europe and the US, Africa is an afterthought, to China, Turkey, Russia or India we are a priority. We will deal with those who value us.
I respect your view and agree with your reasoning, but it's important to consider that, whilst Europe is a bureacratic mess with deep running corruption, to cooperate with them means to cooperate with partners that value liberty. To work with China and Russia is to work with despots, which is unsustainable and will eventually lead to more cons than pros
Look at Serbia. Refused to work with Europe, wanted to be Russia's little friend, much further below than neighbouring countries that were willing to work with Europe
@@juannaym8488 NATO removed Gaddafi in Libya and replaced him with chaos, now all of the Sahel countries are suffering the consequences with terrorism, slavers and cartels wreaking havoc. Neither Russia or China caused chaos in Africa.
@@juannaym8488well said, Europe values its own liberty like you said.
@@madoxxxx06well said
None of this addresses the underdevelopment perpetrated by predominantly European powers. More resource extraction without education and industrial development and just switching suzerainty to China from Europe isn’t going to cause prosperity in Africa.
Perhaps if there was some sense of actually trying to undue the genocide and rampant pillaging Europe did, there’s be some chance of repairing trust. For all Europe mocks the Americans, they’ve had the most negative impact on Africa of any foreign power, particularly the French and Dutch.
Maybe work on actually giving access to your markets and know-how like you did in China if you want African nations to develop. But that’s not what you guys really want, just more cheap resources like always.
China never became Africa's sovereign though. Africa should learn from east asia and implement steong developmentist policies. Many countries are doing just that. Its in Africa's hands
To the point where the USA and USSR had to force the UK and France to decolonize. Pin point the Suez Crisis.
That ship has sailed. Africans will *never* trust white countries (except Russians) again.
I would try not to confuse the people with their governments, their wants, needs and interests are seldom correlated...
The problem is too much market access would wreck many european industries, they could never compete on cheap imports from Africa.
Not sure about the rest, but former portuguese colonies don't see Portugal in a bad way. I mean, they sure don't see the portuguese as lords but more as small partners
Portugal made great efforts of staying quiet in its involvement with the slave trade. The other players however?
@@roid1510 Idk, all I know is that Portugal often helps Cape Verde and Mkzambique specially. Also that a lot of portuguese média covers problems in ex colonies and that, in those ex colonies Portugal isn't hated, mos of them that come here are prety chill people. Also our prime ministre wants to buy gas from Mozambique
This was a good video. Twelve minutes well spent.
Another way of looking at it. “China took a different approach, we need to in order to distance ourselves further from the colonial misdeeds because African politicians are rubbing shoulders with China. We need to up our game a little”. Long story short… give a little and take a lot more.
Its called investment
As someone with relatives in Africa: China's approach only sounds good on paper. The Chinese build self contained sub-economies there which only is profitable for China. No jobs for Africans (All Workers are imported from China who work there), no trade (all parts and material needed taken from China), no really usable infrastructure (all roads are only for transports to mines and factories). It's an even worse deal than with many European countries.
Nothing's gonna happen. European short sighted governments dig their own people's pit. Then how they gonna help Africa.
Allways wondered about what we are doing in África THX!
I don’t know if you’re joking or not by saying “What Africans perceive as “colonialism”. My man, that’s called NEOCOLONIALISM! Read about it, please.
Do you really believe the UE is really concerned with bringing “stability” and “respect for human rights”? There’re reasons why Africans prefer by far making deals with China. They know perfectly that It’s more convenient for them, don’t infantilize them as if they don’t know what’s good for them.
I am Vietnamese. I agree with your comment
@@tranvanduc2138 good to know! I’m Chilean and I know perfectly how neocolonialism works, in my case with the US
These westerners are living in a bubble of their own . They think their governments are as benevolent spread democracy and protect human rights just because these values are sacrosanct in EU territory when in fact everything the west does in Africa is to keep it dependent on Europe, Destabilized with no future. Don't blame them they have been brainwashed by liberal media that they are a force for good because if European citizens actually knew about the dirty stuff Europe does in Africa to insure its interests, they'd revolt against their ruling class. The model of the EU is whitewashed exploitative capitalism where they get high living standards by exploiting others and pretending they're not unlike the US where they shamelessly exploit counties publically
4:50 The train in Morocco is from Tanger to Casablanca not Oran
But the video is great
good work for the video
The EU must stay out of Africa. They have done a hell of harm to Africa.
Yes, we should stop wasting 50-90 billion in development aid every year and stop giving african countries tariff free access to our markets so you can deal with your own shit.
When has EU done anything to africa?
@@FarsightAE yes please we DO NOT WANT IT!!
@@DirtyEdon Then stop asking for aid all the time!
@@FarsightAE no Africans ask for aids! Your politicians uses that to bribe African leaders to get free resources. Aid has NEVER helped Africa. We want Europeans OUT!
These investments are to try to counter China's investments in Africa. If China didn't invest in Africa, Europe wouldn't invest either. Europe was in Africa for 500 years and only invested in what brought it profit or advantage.
Europe must leave Africa security on the Continent is non of European business.
Not a word on UK? Leaving EU does not mean living Europe. UK had colonies all over Africa! What is UK today's participation to Africa's development? What benefits does it still derive from this past?
I think main problem is corruption, low standards of human rights, low concern for environment and sustainability in Africa and for EU is hard to support such countries and such policies. China is not picky because it has lower standards in these areas itself. But with not angageing EU leaves space for even bigger unfavourable development in Africa.
You brought it on the spot!
And the lack of competence to self govern.
What!! Us/eu who support the corrupt governments in keep them in power read a book and loose that superior mindset that’s what’s gone keep Europe cold in the winter the world is growing sick of disgusting European behavior
EU is engaging but democracy, no corruption and sustainability are hard to sell to African leaders
Nothing but disgusting racism. Letting them make their own decisions rather than force them to bent to western will. China and Russia treat them as equal partners rather than constantly meddling in their internal affairs and telling them what they should do.
africa is not a singular country and neither is the european union.
It's sick how European nations demand African nations bend to their will before sending aid. Europe is the whole reason why Africa needs aid in the first place! It is so arrogant to only help if they agree to not send too many poor people. Grinds my gears.
Maybe there wouldnt be a problem but the "poor people" commit 100x more crime.
That means we are highly unlikely to pick their deals. There are so many countries in the que for this competition for Africa and they are not seating on some high horse. European attitude is one of the reasons they will be behind in this competition for Africa.
@@Komeshokakunanwene first its not like every african problem are colonialism fault, second europe will probably be behind in competition becouse of the care for human rights.
@@allo3573 Africa has been divided into 54 countries according to European greediness, this are artificial bolders imposed on Africa by Europe. This bolders cause so many problems and complications until today. So, yes! all the problems of Africa trace all the way back to colonialism! Europe can just keep it's aid to themselves, they also need it. Europe will be behind in competition, not because they care about human rights. They are the number one human rights violators known to mankind. They will be behind because of their colonial history and colonial attitude towards Africa.
@@Komeshokakunanwene man take Liberia as a example, never been colonized but still is in One of the worst situations, same for Ethiopia so yea. As for human rights, surely EU now is respecting them more than fucking china or us.
EU, YOUR TIME HAS PASSED, LEAVE THE CURRENT GENERATIONS OF AFRICANS ALONE, NO MORE DECEIT.
Once a colonisers, always a colonisers.
The first geopolitics channel which doesn't equate Africas population to resources just waiting to be exploited by Europeans.
Africa has a lot of resource. And so does other continents. However labor resource is the cheapest in the world. Latin America just doesn't have enough cheap human capital. The choice to buy resources in Australia or Africa is easy for China.
Australia is also straight up political hostile to china so... yea no brainer for china where they would like to be able to buy things from if they had a choice.
No Continent comes close to what Africa has as resources, actually CONGO alone might have more resources than Latin America.
Let alone Tanzania, South Africa, Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe.
Well-Done
I'm amaze by the creator ability to criticize EU action while still throwing heavy flak on China.
It's almost like it's not an either/or situation where everyone must take a side. China is clearly not a force for good on the international stage, but Europe has been slacking and could do a lot better.
@@20quid China is a force for good in many parts of the world
@@FOLIPE Lol, they aren't. They are just taking advantage of countries with no industrialization. They are pretty much ok with having a system based on corruption. Vice documentary on Chinese mining in Guyana shows that for example.
@@TylerSolvestri well, yes they are. China is a force for good in many countries whether you like it or not. Chinese business, suppliers, demand and investment has been hugely significant in many places. Of course they come with downsides but so does any form of investnent. Any mine is pollutive, and exploitative, if you want to paint it as such. And yes, in many countries chinese investments haven't payed out ideally either (same as other foreign investments, usually). But generally there are many cases when comparing to other powers the chinese are the most relevant positive player, or one of them at least.
@@FOLIPE This was kind of embarrassing to read
Not aging well, considering current events. And even if China retakes control of infrastructure, at least the infrastructure is still there. With the EU, it’s just infinite refinancing and nothing gets built at all.