Wrestling's Most... #08 | Creative Booker

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  • @roryfahy1175
    @roryfahy1175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I can't wait till February 2023 for this to come out. Countin' down the days.

    • @fayezfawzi3255
      @fayezfawzi3255 ปีที่แล้ว

      It just came out, so yeah, a bit later than intended lol

    • @RichSmithson
      @RichSmithson ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wasn't Sean having trouble with TH-cam? Think his videos were getting strikes but its his content.

    • @fayezfawzi3255
      @fayezfawzi3255 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RichSmithson Yeah, they fixed it

  • @RichSmithson
    @RichSmithson ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Nice to see the channel back!

    • @nichhodge8503
      @nichhodge8503 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I one day couldn’t find the channel I searched for it several times and was disappointed I couldn’t find it but so happy it’s back

  • @nichhodge8503
    @nichhodge8503 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Vince Russo said in a shoot interview on if he got ideas from ECW “I didn’t get my ideas from ECW like some people think. I didn’t even watch ECW, I think I may of seen about it about 3 times on TV.” Ed Ferra (Russo’s co-writer in WWE & WCW) said in a shoot interview when asked about ECW “Vince and I would both watch ECW & the Jerry Springer Show to get ideas then we’d sit down and write the show (Raw) trying to incorporate on what we had seen.”

  • @GlassTarantulah
    @GlassTarantulah ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you thank you!

  • @paulrodney951
    @paulrodney951 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm really happy you guys are back on TH-cam. Great stuff always. And IMO, Pat Patterson should #1 on the Creative Booker list.

  • @zachstolpa6521
    @zachstolpa6521 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Much appreciation for the content

  • @OfficialFingazMC
    @OfficialFingazMC ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Right, so is the TH-cam thing all sorted now

    • @fayezfawzi3255
      @fayezfawzi3255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah, I asked them and they replied that the channel has been "un-suspended" :)

  • @sppspharmdude
    @sppspharmdude ปีที่แล้ว

    Aye youre back!

  • @PeteSanctions
    @PeteSanctions ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sean always had a great Russo impression lol

  • @NLaBar
    @NLaBar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    No offense to the blue meanie (loved when he & Stevie “covered” kiss at the ecw arena in’96) , but nobody is counting down the hours (days… weeks… months…) til this is uploaded.

    • @SmaugUKA
      @SmaugUKA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. Or any of the other Reminders for videos 3+ months in advance.

  • @mjhansford
    @mjhansford 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Re #3… he was certainly creative. That is for sure. No-one said ‘good’, just ‘creative’.

  • @JohnDoe__404
    @JohnDoe__404 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "He had been with some black women, Gary had been to the hood."
    😂

  • @jamiekmett8847
    @jamiekmett8847 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sucks the Artful Dodger is running his clueless trap here...

  • @jayb-clay2724
    @jayb-clay2724 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pritchard mad as shit he wasn't picked lol

  • @zachstolpa6521
    @zachstolpa6521 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Vince Russo and NOT Eddie graham?!?!?

  • @davidcota4978
    @davidcota4978 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @TheDukeofMadness
    @TheDukeofMadness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bit of a wait on this one.

    • @fayezfawzi3255
      @fayezfawzi3255 ปีที่แล้ว

      It just came out, so yeah, a bit later than intended too lol

  • @A_real_Ha_So
    @A_real_Ha_So ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another name absent from this list was Jerry Jarrett imo.
    That said, my top 5 are
    1: Heyman
    2: Cornette
    3: Jarrett
    4: Graham
    5: Watts
    Honorable mentions
    Gary Hart, Pat Patterson and Dusty Rhodes

    • @ShadowAngel1860
      @ShadowAngel1860 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's funny how Heyman always gets ranked high by marks, but they can't even say why usually. ECW had how many memorable moments? How many great storylines? ECW moved up how far due to great booking?
      Funny how a total and complete failure turned somebody into a "legend" in the eyes of clueless people.

    • @bambuhboom879
      @bambuhboom879 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ShadowAngel1860
      Taz V. Sabu, Raven V. Dreamer, The Terry Funk Ascension into the World Title, Raven V. Sandman.
      As for moments, there are fucking DOZENS at least lmao.
      The fact that you call other people marks as an insult is also just hilarious considering we're ALL marks, dude.

    • @bambuhboom879
      @bambuhboom879 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ShadowAngel1860Also, his booking philosophy of accentuating the positives and hiding the negatives was revolutionary for it's time. He never allowed his wrestlers to get exposed by their weaknesses.

    • @pikkon899
      @pikkon899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bambuhboom879 No. Instead he let the wrestlers do that themselves when they went to other promotions and the higher ups realized that they couldn't actually work and had made a mistake by hiring them. Paul basically crippled people's abilities to go elsewhere because they relied heavily on his booking. That's not a positive when the goal for so many was to LEAVE ECW for the big leagues.

  • @davidfrederick6003
    @davidfrederick6003 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    To put Vince Russo over Patterson or Watts as a booker is an insult. Apparently the fan voters are attitude era fans and didnt realize who Patterson & Watts were. Id put Russo in later 10 or 20 top creative

    • @buzzkillodium
      @buzzkillodium ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Without Russo you wouldn't have had the most successful era in wrestling. He deserves his spot

    • @ShadowAngel1860
      @ShadowAngel1860 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@buzzkillodium spoken like a true, clueless mark 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Didn't know WCW 1996 was booked by Russo.

    • @buzzkillodium
      @buzzkillodium 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ShadowAngel1860 feel better? 🤣

    • @ShadowAngel1860
      @ShadowAngel1860 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@buzzkillodium Well the fact that i'm not a clueless retard like you makes me indeed feel better 🥰

    • @williamwest9204
      @williamwest9204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@buzzkillodiumit wasnt russo alone in that lol

  • @alexpayne7070
    @alexpayne7070 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where is George Scott?

  • @Mikefantasia22
    @Mikefantasia22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My god, this series was filmed 15 years ago. Originaly aired what 6 years ago... are these new ?

  • @MB-oc1nw
    @MB-oc1nw ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Russo at 3 bro? WTF bro? Seriously bro?....bro!

    • @killharry
      @killharry ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Freakin bunch of haters bro, Russo is the best freakin booker of all time bro

    • @nichhodge8503
      @nichhodge8503 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Number 3 Booker bro!? I’m a writer bro not a booker bro, bro it’s completely different bro!

    • @jonbourgoin182
      @jonbourgoin182 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Blame the fans, they voted him to that spot

    • @jamiekmett8847
      @jamiekmett8847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro, bro, bro... Bro? Bro! Hey bro, BULLSHIT #3, bro!

    • @warshipsatin8764
      @warshipsatin8764 ปีที่แล้ว

      he was a big part of creative during wwe's most successful period. no amount of jim cornette's impotent anger will change that

  • @eddiemoney1093
    @eddiemoney1093 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think kevin sullivan got short changed here.

  • @keeganhurley119
    @keeganhurley119 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how everyone eviscerated Russo

  • @dif187
    @dif187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Listening to Shane Douglas compare Vince Russo to Vince McMahon left me googly eyed.

    • @pikkon899
      @pikkon899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shane Douglas always tries to sound smarter than he is.

  • @axeman6598
    @axeman6598 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bruce makes me I'll.

  • @davidfrederick6003
    @davidfrederick6003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That comment "Kevin Sullivan, Dusty Rhodes, Eddie Graham never mentioned" PAUL HEYMAN??? Yes he made word extreme a household name, but thats it.

    • @jack_ssr
      @jack_ssr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well he also was the mind behind SD, after the brand split

    • @Blacattacsquadron
      @Blacattacsquadron ปีที่แล้ว

      The Dangerous Alliance was the heel stable of all stables in the late 80's and early 90's. He saved WCW from that horsemen crap that was long dead.

  • @MrMTGPsycho
    @MrMTGPsycho 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Matt Stryker said it best in Cornette's part, I think Cornette, to a point, would agree with Stryker. The fact Vince is not only not on here and Russo is let alone the fact he isn't number one skips to the skew of voting. Vince McMahon has made more money, drawn more eyes, had more acclaim with his booking than everyone on this list combined. Yes he had help from Russo, Cornette, and Heyman, but it was Vince in the end. Heyman will tell you, Cornette will tell you, if he feels like telling the truth even Russo in his 80's HS student way will tell you; the WWE succeed because of Vince McMahon.

  • @asoncalledvoonch2210
    @asoncalledvoonch2210 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    19:40-19:47
    😂😂😂

  • @davidfraser6950
    @davidfraser6950 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vince,Pat,Eddie,Dusty and Paul.1 to 5.

  • @HunterXWorld95
    @HunterXWorld95 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that they would put Vince shitstain Russo above Pat fucking Patterson and cowboy Bill Watts… no Dusty Rhodes, no Eddie Graham, no Terry Funk, and no fucking Vince McMahon? These people have no idea what the fuck they’re talking about when it comes to booking.

  • @Kylersinjin
    @Kylersinjin ปีที่แล้ว

    Blue Meanie's cracker analogy was spot on.

  • @stevenfallon4244
    @stevenfallon4244 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How tf is Vince Russo on the list?

  • @warshipsatin8764
    @warshipsatin8764 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    did the other kayfabe commentary get deleted again, despitrle the appeal?

    • @KCVault
      @KCVault  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is the OG and we finally got it back

    • @warshipsatin8764
      @warshipsatin8764 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KCVault nice. hopefully that means this channel has been verified as the content owner/creator and it wont happen again

  • @newageorganzation
    @newageorganzation 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would say
    Vince McMahon is 1
    Bischoff is 2 for the nwo angle... It changed blew the doors off the business
    3. I would put Patterson
    4. Eddie Graham
    5. Dusty Rhodes

    • @ShadowAngel1860
      @ShadowAngel1860 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Technically 2. should then be Kevin Sullivan because he booked all the nWo stuff. Bischoff just puked out the idea he stole from Japan. Otherwise he was responsible for crap like Blood runs Cold and the Kiss Demon.

  • @williamhild1793
    @williamhild1793 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Vince Russo is on this list. Eddie Graham is not.
    Wow.

    • @MB-oc1nw
      @MB-oc1nw ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm guessing the voters must have started watching wrestling in the late 90's.

    • @peterf08
      @peterf08 ปีที่แล้ว

      Russo wrote the highest ratings in wrestling history of course he should be on the list

    • @Blacattacsquadron
      @Blacattacsquadron ปีที่แล้ว

      Because Dusty stole his style and everyone is giving the credit to him.

    • @williamwest9204
      @williamwest9204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@peterf08in a time period where the most amount of people could afford to own a TV moron.

  • @jonsanchez3124
    @jonsanchez3124 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Almost forgot this series quickly becomes “has beens show how bitter and out of touch they are”

    • @wardengentles53
      @wardengentles53 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I didn't see anyone bitter, or out of touch. Seen this years ago. I mean, what are you talking about?

    • @jonsanchez3124
      @jonsanchez3124 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wardengentles53 no one asked for your useless opinion

    • @Blacattacsquadron
      @Blacattacsquadron ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@wardengentles53his name is a big enough explanation.

    • @travelreview5962
      @travelreview5962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who?

    • @williamwest9204
      @williamwest9204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Blacattacsquadronu mean russo lol

  • @Foxo-Matti12
    @Foxo-Matti12 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cornette is there just because of the internet marks.

  • @chriswarfield7520
    @chriswarfield7520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Russo #3 is insane. Doesn't belong on the list.
    I'd put Kevin sullivan, dusty rhodes, and jerry jarrett/bill dundee above fucking russo and Graham didn't even make the list? Wtf

  • @nichhodge8503
    @nichhodge8503 ปีที่แล้ว

    Number 3 Booker bro!? I’m a writer bro not a booker bro, bro it’s completely different bro!

  • @markk7731
    @markk7731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    who is this dude?

  • @dachronicalalittlebitofeve6630
    @dachronicalalittlebitofeve6630 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruce was hard on corny 😂

    • @williamwest9204
      @williamwest9204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hes mad cause corny makes fun of him

    • @pikkon899
      @pikkon899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@williamwest9204 Not when this was filmed. They were still very good friends. Bruce would always crack jokes at Jim and Jim would do the same during this time period. Corentte's time to shine as booker was Smokey Mountain and it went out of business. As much as people love Corny, he's stuck in the 80's. I'd have to agree with Bruce on this one, same with Heyman. They both had companies that went out of business with the 2 of them as lead and unchallenged bookers. Heyman in WWE had Vince to oversee him like Russo did. That's the difference. Much of Heyman's ideas in ECW weren't even his. Raven and Dreamer were also there helping Heyman out.

  • @toxicculture4682
    @toxicculture4682 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    asking people to vote who cant spell wrestling

  • @GlassTarantulah
    @GlassTarantulah ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Paul Heyman number 1? Nope. Show's the demohraphic who voted.

  • @frankohbk
    @frankohbk ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They should do a new version of these lists with a new rule: no one under 30 years old is allowed to vote.

  • @stuartday1330
    @stuartday1330 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That dude said Kevin Sullivan should be put on the list. He sucks and has sucked. Dungeon of Doom. Being too legit to quit. His promos are horrific. I hope Benoit whooped him in any of their matches.

  • @Durakken
    @Durakken 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think a lot of times people don't know what words mean... Russo is definitely the most creative booker. Paul Heyman is probably number 2. That doesn't make them the good, let alone the best booker... I think people interpreted this as "best" not "most creative"

    • @williamwest9204
      @williamwest9204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except hes not, he copied jerry springer

    • @ThePunk01
      @ThePunk01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Russo never booked. He was an idea guy, he didn't book 1 match in WWF

    • @Durakken
      @Durakken 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThePunk01 That's more accurate than not... I mean. It would be even more accurate to say he regurgitated ideas had by other people devoid of context of where they came from

  • @jessiepalermo7234
    @jessiepalermo7234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Russo should have gotten #1. Haters will hate but facts are facts.

    • @Foxo-Matti12
      @Foxo-Matti12 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      facts.

    • @Tumorcoach
      @Tumorcoach 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts are he isn’t number 1

  • @JohnnyScumbagg
    @JohnnyScumbagg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This list is way off

  • @davidcota4978
    @davidcota4978 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    spelled wrong at 6:14

  • @davidfrederick6003
    @davidfrederick6003 ปีที่แล้ว

    All time creative bookers
    #1 Vince McMahon (?)
    #2 Pat Patterson
    #3 Eddie Graham
    #4 Dusty Rhodes
    #5 Bill Watts
    #6 Paul Heyman

    • @Blacattacsquadron
      @Blacattacsquadron ปีที่แล้ว

      Dusty is #6. Dusty's style comes from Bill's and St Louis with the over the top finishes of Graham!

    • @williamwest9204
      @williamwest9204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vinces creativity came from Pat

  • @WilliamSt.Clair1399
    @WilliamSt.Clair1399 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let’s go! I didn’t realize Cornette was a heavy leftist. First time I’ve ever liked him even a little bit. 😂

    • @williamwest9204
      @williamwest9204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hes left leaning and old, but hes not like these modern psychopaths in the left

  • @kaodik
    @kaodik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. February. Ok. Ha

    • @fayezfawzi3255
      @fayezfawzi3255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It just came out, so yeah, a bit later than intended lol

  • @SmaugUKA
    @SmaugUKA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Having a Reminder made for a TH-cam Video that doesn't come out until February of next year is not necessary and is advertising something WAY too far in advance. For TH-cam Videos, Reminders should be Uploaded within 2 weeks of a Video coming out...maybe a month tops. Anything more than that and it's worthless. People forget stuff they did yesterday, let alone getting a head's up for something being shown in 8 months.
    This isn't blockbuster type movie Trailers, or future information for an upcoming video game, or a Presale of an upcoming product. You have to look at this from a Social Media/TH-cam standpoint, and not one in the same fashion as Hollywood movies or big budget video games. I would suggest removing the Reminders for all videos that aren't coming out in the next month or 2.

    • @stephenjones1488
      @stephenjones1488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You'll get over it. Ain't not a nobody reading that novel of a comment.

    • @SmaugUKA
      @SmaugUKA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@stephenjones1488 More people read full comments than you'd think. Just because you don't want to read it all, doesn't mean others do not, or will not. By the amount of Likes I continually get on my Comments (long or short), it shows people read it fully.
      Get over what? I didn't take anything personally, or get upset over it. What I wrote is called constructive criticism. Nothing written was to complain and or based on emotions.

    • @RichSmithson
      @RichSmithson ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SmaugUKA Calm down. He was having problems with youtube and i think some of his videos got striked.

    • @fayezfawzi3255
      @fayezfawzi3255 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. Ironically, It just came out, so yeah, a bit later than intended even lol

    • @Blacattacsquadron
      @Blacattacsquadron ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@RichSmithsonthey did! The wrestlers wanted more money because these vids from Sean was banging and generated a lot of money but Sean worked with trash and they broke him.

  • @harrisonwarner6437
    @harrisonwarner6437 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    VR as three 🤮🔫

  • @stuartday1330
    @stuartday1330 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I disagree with Brother Love about Paul Heyman. He's such an ass kisser. McMahon is not creative.

  • @LeoWhalen1933
    @LeoWhalen1933 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So much recency bias on this series...
    Im not a total Russo hater, but he should NOT have been on here.

  • @frieza1679
    @frieza1679 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I disagree with Matt . I'm an nwa wcw Smokey mountain tna impact fan .I don't really like Vince or his "booking" . Haven't watched wwe on purpose in years lol