Eric Bischoff Full Shoot Interview 2 Hours | WSI #69🎤

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  • Eric Bischoff 2 Hour Full Interview (2023) - WSI Episode #69 🎤
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  • @treystevenson9872
    @treystevenson9872 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Eric Bischoff for President 🇺🇸

  • @paulhowe4535
    @paulhowe4535 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Brilliant interview James and hopefully Eric will keep his word and come on again when the time is right

  • @alexsutton85
    @alexsutton85 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He'd love my local pub, it's been there a while - 1249!

  • @nostalgiaman6816
    @nostalgiaman6816 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    “You’ll never understand what it’s like to to walk a day in my red & yellow boots.” - Hulk Hogan

  • @mikeborsum8881
    @mikeborsum8881 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I think I've gained a lot of respect for Eric Bischoff after watching this. Of course, I've only ever known his TV characters, but this was a genuine insight to the actual person, and it turns out, he's a decent fellow. It also sheds a lot of insight into Hogan's troubles over the past few years, which calls for quite a bit of rethinking of how we see Terry Bolea.

    • @drkuhl5076
      @drkuhl5076 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      My sentiments exactly

  • @Aldo.S.J.McLaren
    @Aldo.S.J.McLaren ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great Interview. I met Eric Bischoff in Edinburgh some years ago and what a gentleman. Respect to the Podcast keep up the great work. 👊👊👊

  • @mikehunt8247
    @mikehunt8247 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would kill for 2 hours of erics time.
    Thank you so much eric bischoff. You helped mold my childhood into the most amazing memories and i fondly look back on wcw and how innovative you were and how cool your formatting was. Those live nitros still entertain me in my late 20s. Thank you so much mr Bishcoff you will forever be my favorite boss of a promotion ever. I aspire one day to meet you as i have so much love and respect for the body of work you created. Thanks eric
    -Mike from Canada

  • @andypandy5539
    @andypandy5539 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great interview! Well done👏

  • @SkateSoup
    @SkateSoup ปีที่แล้ว +10

    James smashes it as always, this was a great one. That AOL/Time Warner merger was such a shxtshow all around. A friend worked at AOL at the time, and they had an all hands 6-12 months after the merger with an open question period. One person got up and expressed that the merger seemed to have not gone well for anyone involved and asked what the path forward was. The CEO said, "If you remember, we bought them," to which the questioner immediately replied, "Great, can we sell them now?" Awkward laughter throughout the auditorium it was being held in.

  • @LoneLeeGH
    @LoneLeeGH ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've been looking forward to this interview in its entirety. Teased myself with some snippets but knew I needed the whole thing to appreciate it. Good to hear Eric again.

  • @edwardfarnsworth5915
    @edwardfarnsworth5915 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow! With so much 83 Weeks content available, I didn't expect to be interested in this interview. However, from the very start - Eric and James talking about historical buildings - an hour into this, it's one of the most engaging wrestling shoots ever recorded.

    • @perpetualmotion357
      @perpetualmotion357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually would've preferred if they stuck more on that topic, but I guess it's a wrestling show so..😂

  • @miamimagicians
    @miamimagicians ปีที่แล้ว +5

    great interview. Eric is IMPOSSIBLE TO DISLIKE

  • @stankormy5717
    @stankormy5717 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bischoff got one of the best minds in wrestling!

  • @The_Newfoundland_Dragon
    @The_Newfoundland_Dragon ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for not making us wait for this one James brother. Appreciate ya.

    • @leeedwards9068
      @leeedwards9068 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Another Newfoundlander sending you many thanks, James…you are a superb interviewer for these ACTUAL historical document of Wrestling.

  • @harrydbastard
    @harrydbastard ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Eric is right about Hogan, I once asked a question about steroids and he gave me a very long well thought out answer. He didn't need to say anything but it's stuff like that that makes you feel valued as a fan and growing up with his matches it adds to his legend.

  • @tommytaylor4139
    @tommytaylor4139 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Been waiting for the full interview, great stuff James, Eric is a top guest 👍👍

  • @tommytaylor4139
    @tommytaylor4139 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You're the fricking man James, WHAT an interview, please get Eric on again, he's extremely humble and gracious, I don't detect any ego, he's seen it all in this amazing industry, and there's so much more to tell, awesome 👍👍, Great work on this epic interview.

    • @shadowangel2235
      @shadowangel2235 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bankrupt Bischoff humble and gracious? One of the biggest lying cuckolds in the wrestling industry? You gotta be kidding :D

    • @tommytaylor4139
      @tommytaylor4139 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shadowangel2235 I don't agree

    • @shadowangel2235
      @shadowangel2235 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tommytaylor4139 I don't care, stay dumb and clueless then.

    • @tommytaylor4139
      @tommytaylor4139 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shadowangel2235 what's with the bad vibes?, No need to come at me with insults

    • @shadowangel2235
      @shadowangel2235 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tommytaylor4139 What's with the crying? Are you that big of a pussy?

  • @jonjohnson1978.
    @jonjohnson1978. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always watch 83 weeks and story time with dutch so looking forward to this

  • @nriab23
    @nriab23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I absolutely loved wcw worldwide, when i was perhaps 9 or 10 years old around 1999. I had no idea that it was weeks behind though which was very interesting. But then i also renember Channel 4 came out with WWF heat in 2000 and they had 4 PPVs each year. Which was amazing.

  • @bullettoothjosh
    @bullettoothjosh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The period at the end of Vince's story would be a tell all book.

  • @im_cart8656
    @im_cart8656 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is a really impressive interview... i haven't thought about wrestling and the wcw since i was a kid and the past couple days just been watching alot of old wcw videos and wrestling top 10s and whatnot and the nwo era left a big impact on my childhood so hearing this guys perspective about it all is cool. really impressive guy

  • @seanmcclure
    @seanmcclure ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Eric doesn’t get emotional very often which leads me to believe he’s telling the truth or at least what he truly believes the truth.

    • @BiscoWho
      @BiscoWho ปีที่แล้ว

      Well then, you don't actually know how to tell when someone is telling the truth and when they're not.
      Here: What you need is a baseline of a person's body language and tone when you know them to be telling the truth. You need multiple examples so that you can notice the patterns. Then, anytime they deviate significantly from the patterns you've observed, then that's when they're most likely not being truthful. This is how people who are things like professional interrogators or clinical psychologists tell when people are lying and when they're telling the truth.
      And I assure you, it is the ONLY technique that actually works. Don't go by anything else. If anyone ever tells you anything otherwise, they have no idea what they're talking about. I know exactly what I'm talking about and you may look into this online, if you doubt what I'm saying. You'll find that I'm right. Start learning how to observe microexpressions of people's body language. Then, once you master that, you just need to understand how to pay attention for patterns when you know that the person is least likely to lie, or you know them to be telling the truth (such as when they state their name and/or their birthday). Then finally, anytime you see body language that deviates from the patterns, boom, you pretty much know them to be lying.

    • @shadowangel2235
      @shadowangel2235 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of the biggest liars in the wrestling industry. He never tells the truth, heck, he even lied about his failed brewing company, claiming he sued somebody over a trademark, when it actually was the other way around and he got sued for stealing it. He's a total loser, bankrupted everything he ever started, including himself twice and was put on trial over his pathetic cuckolding.

    • @guybroyles48
      @guybroyles48 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That could be a sign of many things, including being a sociopath. lol

    • @mikeL65000
      @mikeL65000 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or he's an expert at being full of crap.

    • @perpetualmotion357
      @perpetualmotion357 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some people get colder when they get older and others get more emotional and cry easier, like Bischoff and Rogan. I think it's the hormones.

  • @CeemPlay
    @CeemPlay ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I nearly cried when Eric spoke about Hogan. People don't realize what someone is going throughc

    • @nostalgiaman6816
      @nostalgiaman6816 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Time stamp?

    • @takerdust
      @takerdust ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nostalgiaman6816 51:00

    • @nostalgiaman6816
      @nostalgiaman6816 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I remember even though Bret Hart didn’t like him - he always had respect and brought up the fact that Hogan, Savage, and Kerry Von Erich would never say no to an autograph and would ALWAYS do stuff for kids.

    • @dizzygunner
      @dizzygunner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I found his take at the beginning of that kind of childish in a way, trying to suggest that anyone who had a problem with Hulk Hogan was jealous, sort of like "you can't not like the person i like" at the end of the day a lot of people have problems with Hulk Hogan for very real reasons, he's known as the biggest backstage politicer for a reason, then there's also the issue of him trying to say punk has no confidence in his own abilities on the mic, which we all know that's bullshit. All just reeks of "don't say anything bad about my friend"

    • @slavenpetanic
      @slavenpetanic ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dizzygunnerIt's Hollywood Hogan to you and everybody who's commenting 😎😊💪😆

  • @Locutus
    @Locutus ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He looks a lot younger than 67, about 57.

  • @tomsawyer1648
    @tomsawyer1648 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I give him 100% credit all the way around, after the golden era stopped watching completely as well as a lot of other fans, the very first time I ever tried to buy anything off television was to obtain my very first NWO T-shirt And I patiently waited the two months for it to come in the mail and I wore it proudly! You put the spark back in when it was very much lost! Thank you Eric you were as entertaining as anyone I’ve ever seen in the business!

    • @mikehunt8247
      @mikehunt8247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was brilliant the only guy to ever stick it up vinces ass and they can never change it

  • @roy12525
    @roy12525 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing interview. Way to go!

  • @toddgilbert2485
    @toddgilbert2485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Is Great!

  • @TheGreatestPlayerInTheWorld
    @TheGreatestPlayerInTheWorld ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great interview

  • @nickroberts990
    @nickroberts990 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seems like a hell of a good guy.

  • @LRM5195
    @LRM5195 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually like that WCW logo. Maybe it’s cause nostalgia 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @mikehunt8247
      @mikehunt8247 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny you said that cause for some reason I'm in the same boat I considered getting it tattooed on me

    • @slavenpetanic
      @slavenpetanic ปีที่แล้ว

      WCW 4evaaaa brothers

  • @Bosanovadude1
    @Bosanovadude1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m back!!!!! And better than ever!!!!

  • @gwikeh
    @gwikeh ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic interview, both by WSI and Bischoff.

  • @SCARLEMSCARS
    @SCARLEMSCARS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!

  • @kanokiljoy5582
    @kanokiljoy5582 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was an awesome interview.

  • @InvertedFreeSolo
    @InvertedFreeSolo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing interview

  • @pittsburghboyertown3821
    @pittsburghboyertown3821 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interview. Really enjoyed this.

  • @scottmccowan8434
    @scottmccowan8434 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome show

  • @kylew2453
    @kylew2453 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks
    Always fascinates me to understand the true behind the scenes outlook on what it took to make a company like wwf,wcw and tna to be successful

  • @WrestlingGimmicks
    @WrestlingGimmicks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic interview! Very interesting

  • @bradmead6454
    @bradmead6454 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going to order the Owen book for my 13 hour flight. Looking forward to it, great interview 👍🏽

  • @ScottM94
    @ScottM94 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible interview!

  • @samhayden60
    @samhayden60 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Eric should come to my home town of Chepstow. We've got a castle from 1067, town walls that are hundreds of years old, several pubs that are hundreds of years old, countless listed buildings, rich local history, beautiful natural scenery surrounding it and parts of it are the inspiration for the world of Harry Potter.

  • @greglozano64
    @greglozano64 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good show as always James.

  • @sonamdaduldorjee1203
    @sonamdaduldorjee1203 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never knew I would enjoy these conversations. 👌

  • @Bit2brain
    @Bit2brain ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding interview. Listened to the whole thing. You had great rapport with Eric and you let him speak before jumping in, unlike a lot of people.

    • @WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo
      @WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo ปีที่แล้ว

      Kenny Bolin by any chance? It was so bad Eric had to say Fuck me who's being interviewed here? Did you drag me here to tell me YOUR life story. It was great seeing Eric put him in his place

  • @RollTide24-7
    @RollTide24-7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is one helluva interview! Also this young guy has so many amazing wrestling podcasts! He's pretty friggin awesome himself!

  • @jasonvoorhees1354
    @jasonvoorhees1354 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the 1st time I've ever seen your show and I am very impressed, such a great interview. You now have a new subscriber and a fan.

  • @rickybubbles7350
    @rickybubbles7350 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    New subscriber looking forward to this, great work🤟

  • @ziggy_the_iron_king
    @ziggy_the_iron_king ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You ask some really interesting questions that set you apart from these other large wrestling interview platforms. I'm listening to the Adrian Street interview now. I'd like for you to have Haku on one day and ask him about his time in Montreal or Finlay and ask him about his time in Germany. I loved your discord with Bischoff about history as well

  • @stevansmith9582
    @stevansmith9582 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good podcast

  • @dannystaton5386
    @dannystaton5386 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the history stuff too

  • @douglasmace7703
    @douglasmace7703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has Eric ever been to Perth Western Australia? I'd like to hear what he thinks of our city. Honestly. Doesn't need to tell me what I want to hear.

  • @stevenseagal4664
    @stevenseagal4664 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bischoff is a interesting guy.

  • @elroywrong
    @elroywrong ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved that logo as a kid and I'm not afraid to admit it lol.

  • @miamimagicians
    @miamimagicians ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eric was my favorite heel

  • @rb8913
    @rb8913 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite place on earth is the Tetons. Grand Tetons is right next to yellowstone. That whole area is beautiful and majestic. I’ve been wanting to buy a house in Wyoming since 2014. Hopefully one day I can

  • @jpmcpheemcphee2695
    @jpmcpheemcphee2695 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The saddest part of this entire interview? Which was top notch by the way! When the topic of TNA/IMPACT came up, and Eric says "They'd still be around today, if they made better decisions" ... they're still around, but I think they're the only ones who know it

    • @YoitsmeitsmeitsCairoLeeAGAIN
      @YoitsmeitsmeitsCairoLeeAGAIN 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have the WORST reputation in the world. It'd be like if WCW was around still. Everyone would work there but they'd still be known as the place that Russo ruined

  • @DaHandDatFeeds
    @DaHandDatFeeds ปีที่แล้ว

    Love how Bish set up his command station in the mudroom lol

  • @davidbutler1622
    @davidbutler1622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found this channel and been binge watching. Well done for somehow making wrestling shoot interviews sound fresh. Good questions and you let them answer in full. You’re a talented interviewer. Thank you Sir.

  • @deepzepp4176
    @deepzepp4176 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pub crawl and a curry. Bischoff knows what’s up.

  • @locodez
    @locodez 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    20x20 was the WWF/WWE standard. Even if you look back at old territory footage, nobody else used the 20x20

  • @wildcatterry17
    @wildcatterry17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #69 nice

  • @lennystorm2388
    @lennystorm2388 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a really good interview this was a really good Insight of who Eric Bischoff was all the years that I saw him on television I thought he was a jerk nice to know that he's completely the opposite by the way I'm saying this personally because 5 years ago I got to meet the man and he's a really good person

  • @NateAussie
    @NateAussie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eric is spot on with his opinion on Spike TV helping UFC. The ultimate fighter series 1 is a major reason the UFC has became mainstream. Before the ultimate fighter show a few people would hire a dvd of the UFC but when the show started it changed the way people looked at mma

  • @darnellmckeown7991
    @darnellmckeown7991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I been watching James for years now and his interviews and think he’s the best there is, I new he was from uk 🇬🇧 but never new he was from Manchester which is my hometown to, I’d love to meet James see his podcast studio and have a chat about wrestling if you see this mate that would be epic 👌🏾

  • @harrylazard805
    @harrylazard805 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I like this guy a lot more in person than when he was portraying his character....

  • @GrimReaper4383
    @GrimReaper4383 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You missed 2 questions.
    1. DX invasion
    2. Mick Foleys title win be spoiled on nitro

  • @tobysgamingworld1550
    @tobysgamingworld1550 ปีที่แล้ว

    I worked on the ring crew/security all through high school and a little after for an older friend’s local wrestling group. Every guy, no matter if it was a big name coming in for a weekend or a local would use that “hot stuff” and it reeked!! These guys would put it on knowing the crowd at most would be 300 people in a community center (which was like best case sell out crowd) and no tv.

  • @TheHitmanrj
    @TheHitmanrj ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interview James and Eric

  • @JohnLopez-gt6og
    @JohnLopez-gt6og ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally the full interview those short clips were pissing me off already

  • @Steven-rp8zo
    @Steven-rp8zo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how he is mostly keeping it positive. A good lesson for us all!

  • @williammcmillan-johnstone3962
    @williammcmillan-johnstone3962 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worldwide commentary was Scott Hudson and sonny onoo hilarious

  • @slavenpetanic
    @slavenpetanic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    NWO Hollywood black & white 4life!!

  • @dmV2001.
    @dmV2001. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish it was a time stamp

  • @Bit2brain
    @Bit2brain ปีที่แล้ว

    Eric’s words on Hogan are extremely interesting. Seems truthful too.

  • @garyhen2028
    @garyhen2028 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know that pain Eric speaks on hogan

  • @takerdust
    @takerdust ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terri Tingle is still a high level exec for Warner/Discovery. Same "company" for decades, and survived the coups and bloodbaths.

  • @xantastic6301
    @xantastic6301 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:39 😂

  • @seanhicks9959
    @seanhicks9959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder if he would say that to lesnars face lol

  • @Anthonys_S
    @Anthonys_S ปีที่แล้ว

    If anyone in wrestling has change my opinion on them it’s Eric, don’t get me wrong long ago kayfaybe died and obviously I realise he was acting a heel but I rarely seen wcw here in the uk , I was pure wee and anything I did see of him was negative but I love his podcast and he really is a super interesting person, extremely intelligent.

  • @DaKoolDude
    @DaKoolDude ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Need timestamps

  • @williammitchell4417
    @williammitchell4417 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eric on Greg Gagne- Daddy says SELL!!

  • @remAor
    @remAor ปีที่แล้ว

    I got an original wwwf dusty Rhodes cover. Bought it for only ten bucks a few years back

    • @remAor
      @remAor ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, cover to the show program at Nassau coliseum

  • @travelreview5962
    @travelreview5962 ปีที่แล้ว

    People are so often too quick to judge others. Imagine the worst thing you've ever done, probably something you've forgotten about maybe while drunk angry and depressed, maybe after someone did something henious to you, anything who knows. Now imagine it was on the biggest story on the 6 o'clock news and the front page of the paper, and the top of every social media feed.... how would you look? The world is unfortunately full of bad people and some of those stories are genuinely about bad people.... but some are regular people, good people, hurt people, mad, drunk, etc. people. Reserving judgement and keeping your opinions top yourself has absolutely 0% chance of harming innocent people while rising to judgement has the likely plausibility of ruining the life of an innocent person.
    Just something I try to remember when this line this come up...🤷‍♂️👍❤️

  • @garyhen2028
    @garyhen2028 ปีที่แล้ว

    James, where is my signed copy of Owen Hart king of pranks?

  • @PeterMatthew-vi1gg
    @PeterMatthew-vi1gg ปีที่แล้ว

    its why they are called the buffalo bills

  • @fugetaboutit2050
    @fugetaboutit2050 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The guy has more class then Vince

  • @xantastic6301
    @xantastic6301 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    36:44 😅😅

  • @adelantericky
    @adelantericky ปีที่แล้ว

    Time stamps mate it's 2023. Fantastic interview nonetheless

  • @walterhager8626
    @walterhager8626 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Juvie on commentary wtf😂

  • @Anthonys_S
    @Anthonys_S ปีที่แล้ว

    Eric’s passioned words on Hulk really early brought me to
    Tears to be honest. I mean if you think of it what would you do if that was you, you would be a mess

  • @cyumadbrosummit3534
    @cyumadbrosummit3534 ปีที่แล้ว

    “One of the biggest maggots n wrestling history.” -Brett Heart

  • @chocolateface4885
    @chocolateface4885 ปีที่แล้ว

    69 hahahaha .

  • @JerryHatrickShorts
    @JerryHatrickShorts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crazy. Buffalo Bill you say? What about the people that owned the land before them?

  • @prayingmantis6777
    @prayingmantis6777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't recognize her without all the makeup...
    She makes wrestling GREAT!
    because she gives as good as she has to take.

  • @highnoon7097
    @highnoon7097 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bischoff bigging up Manchester :)
    Also WCW worldwide on Channel 5 had a further inconsistency in that Mike Tenay for some baffling reason played the heel commentator. So you could see Tenay be a normal commentator on Thunder on TNT, then 6 weeks later you could watch the same match but he'd be doing heel commentary over it. So weird.

  • @MrJobsworth1979
    @MrJobsworth1979 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has TNA finished or is it still going?

  • @projectpat006
    @projectpat006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll save you 2 hours
    I don't recall/I don't remember

  • @travisrhoades8074
    @travisrhoades8074 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Eric basically becomes the town drunk to find out about the areas he visits. Jk, 😂.

  • @BareKnuckleBrawls
    @BareKnuckleBrawls 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really do like Eric, and as a man i appreciate his hard work. That being said i cant sit jere and let him claim that he created live wrestling. For anybody who may not know wrestling territories around the continental united states were live every week up until the major expansion of Vince McMahon and the WWF. Wrestling was live until '83 or '84. I hate to burst the bubble to any of you who may believe that, but bottom line is taht its just untrue.