Atlanta wants a team with a great owner. Look i understand anybody wanting a team in Quebec City. I hope the Nordiques make it back. But quit the hate on the people of Atlanta. Atlanta has die hard fans that still support the NHL even without a team. I whope we get our Thrashers back and I also hope that Canada gets another team. This can be a win win for everyone.
@darinkasaboski6829 thats a very good point. Same with Houston. The owner of the Houston Rockets reportedly didn't want to pay 300 million back before vegas came into the league. So the 1.3 Billion dollar cost is out of the question for these potential owners. Atlanta has 2 potential ownership groups both with deep pockets to buy a team and also build the building and entertainment districts. If it's Anson Carters group or the Krause group. I do believe the NHL is coming to Atlanta and I couldnt be happier!
please stop expanding canada needs to take the puck and go home and start a canadian league canadians are sick of bettman and his southern usa teams we need to stop sending our hockey money south to support small us markets
Yeah an all Canadian league. Who would broadcast and how much would the rights be? And who would play there? It would be a glorified ECHL. Ask Rogers how much regret do they feel over the NHL rights deal they negotiated
Atlanta is the sixth largest metro in the USA with basically an equal population to the Toronto metro area. What small US markets are you talking about?
Sure, that will REALLY fly in Toronto and Montreal. Look at how much money the CFL makes in those cities! Do you think all those Habs and Leafs fans are in a hurry to say goodbye to decades of rivalries with the likes of the Bruins, Red Wings, Black Hawks, etc.? You need to be in a world-class league to draw fans in Toronto.
Is arena location always an issue in US cities? Everybody knows Bettman's agenda after 30 years but I stupidly ask why forcefeed hockey into these fickle markets that need everything on a platter? Screw Atlanta on a third try. The league was wise enough, years ago, to admit failure and collapse Cleveland into Minnesota. Arizona should've been relocated to the GTA. If anything, there are too many teams offering a watered down product where bush leaguers are hacking and whacking the superstars.
Why is arena location allowed to be used as an excuse for Ottawa but not Atlanta. Also Atlanta lost their first franchise because the owner went broke in his other business and Calgary outbid Ted Turner. The Thrashers got doomed by the Time Warner AOL merger. I wouldn't go out of my way to go back to Atlanta but a new building and an ownership using Anson Carter as a front man than the league can tout some weak diversity in ownership nonsense
Thank God Deitch is there to give the bottom line why a team wont come to Canada. Lack of multibillionaires. Having a team in Markham sounds fun but I see no arena and no governments willing to build one
They might as institute relegation as there are already too many mediocre teams in the NHL. Make it like European soccer leagues where 3 garbage teams get relegated every year.
@darinkasaboski6829 It's all about TV revenue which is dwindling in most major sports. Once that bounty is gone--especially in the USA we'll see massive changes in several sports.
Whoever the insider who said nhl is under represented in the USA compared to other big sports isn't thinking that you still need to count the Canadian teams because you don't jave enough talent to support so many teams. Every league is watered down when it comes to talent and it makes some teams just unwatchable in my opinion.
Crap TV ratings in U.S., too! Last year's Stanley Cup final: 2.6 million viewers. This year's Women's March Madness final? 13.2 million!! The NHL will never challenge football or basketball in the U.S. Too bad the owners refuse to deal with that reality.
Agreed. Crap ownership and horrible location downtown. No one wants to drive downtown. People live in the suburbs. I'd drive to either of the proposed counties from Lake Lanier for sure.
Is not going to happen. If one was willing to buy the other out of MLSE, it would have been done already. At the moment both companies are cutting back, neither probably has the appetite to buy out the other, and who ever is being bought out, probably currently doesn't have the appetite to turn around and try and launch a expansion team.
@@markfeland2285 That was on ownership. Had nothing to do with fan support. Get a competent owner who isn't going to sabotage the team and it will thrive.
The original team played in the Omni. Betman has to go. Atlanta has now had two chances the Flames and the Thrashers. Give it up Gary. Quebec deserves the next franchise. Betman is a complete idiot.
@@willp.8120 mexico city is more massive then atl. and bigger than nyc. So going by your warped theory you keep rehashing that size of market matters then should mexico city get an nhl team too?
@@stevenbauer4799 Mexico City has a larger population, but it's urbanized area ( land built up) is tiny in comparison to Atlanta. Furthermore, Mexico doesn't watch hockey. Totally incompatible culture with hockey.
@@willp.8120 They can fill a 100,000 seat soccer stadium. still doesn't matter. thats a massive population for fannies tv viewers which is all nhl cares about. and atl. demographics culture aint suited for nhl success. and they don't watch nhl or go to games as well.
If the NHL puts another team in Atlanta I'm done with the NHL for good. Gary Bettman has done NOTHING for hockey in Canada. A luxury tax system would put teams like Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver at the top of the league. The NHL is crippling the Canadian teams on purpose and keeping the NHL out of Canada.
@@darinkasaboski6829 Got rid of Quebec and Winnipeg in 1995, despite sold-out arenas and massive fan interest. Blocked a move of the Coyotes to Hamilton by RIM CEO. Instituted a salary crap system so that Toronto funds money-losing teams in the southern US.
@@willp.8120 Atlanta is not a hockey market. They have failed multiple times. There is EVERY reason not to have a team in Atlanta. I would put a team in Quebec City, a team in Hamilton, a second team in Toronto, a team in Cleveland, a team in Baltimore, and a team in Windsor before I EVER considered Atlanta.
@@taekwondotime And you would be ridiculous for it? Baltimore doesn't even have half the population. Quebec City metro is one-eighth the population of Atlanta. Cleveland is one third the size of Atlanta. Windsor is basically a suburb of Detroit. No reason for them to have a team. Atlanta's sports' attendance is one of the best.
Bob you’re sounding better by the week keep up the good work 👍🏼
Man Bob is really coming along!! Love it!!!
They'll fix it so Atlanta will win a cup within the first 3 years
Atlanta wants a team with a great owner. Look i understand anybody wanting a team in Quebec City. I hope the Nordiques make it back. But quit the hate on the people of Atlanta. Atlanta has die hard fans that still support the NHL even without a team. I whope we get our Thrashers back and I also hope that Canada gets another team. This can be a win win for everyone.
People forget the elephant in the room with Quebec City. The potential owner didn't want to pay 500 million for a franchise. The cost has doubled now
@darinkasaboski6829 thats a very good point. Same with Houston. The owner of the Houston Rockets reportedly didn't want to pay 300 million back before vegas came into the league. So the 1.3 Billion dollar cost is out of the question for these potential owners. Atlanta has 2 potential ownership groups both with deep pockets to buy a team and also build the building and entertainment districts. If it's Anson Carters group or the Krause group. I do believe the NHL is coming to Atlanta and I couldnt be happier!
Would have been awesome to have Michael Kimel takeover in 2011-12 and get a suburban ice rink eventually. McGorarty might have stayed.
Bob and Shhhhhhanon are the best!
Kitchener-Waterloo and Cambridge
Quebec City please. A second team in Toronto would work too.
Put another team in Toronto and phase out the leafs within 3 years
Didn’t the mascot go to jail in Atlanta? 😂
Is this Bob’s show or the other guys? yeesh.
please stop expanding
canada needs to take the puck and go home and start a canadian league
canadians are sick of bettman and his southern usa teams
we need to stop sending our hockey money south to support small us markets
I have seen some seriously delusional characters on these comment boards before but you sir, are in a category all by yourself.
Yeah an all Canadian league. Who would broadcast and how much would the rights be? And who would play there? It would be a glorified ECHL. Ask Rogers how much regret do they feel over the NHL rights deal they negotiated
Also there are no small US markets. Winnipeg is smaller than the smallest market
Atlanta is the sixth largest metro in the USA with basically an equal population to the Toronto metro area.
What small US markets are you talking about?
Sure, that will REALLY fly in Toronto and Montreal. Look at how much money the CFL makes in those cities! Do you think all those Habs and Leafs fans are in a hurry to say goodbye to decades of rivalries with the likes of the Bruins, Red Wings, Black Hawks, etc.? You need to be in a world-class league to draw fans in Toronto.
Is arena location always an issue in US cities?
Everybody knows Bettman's agenda after 30 years but I stupidly ask why forcefeed hockey into these fickle markets that need everything on a platter? Screw Atlanta on a third try. The league was wise enough, years ago, to admit failure and collapse Cleveland into Minnesota.
Arizona should've been relocated to the GTA.
If anything, there are too many teams offering a watered down product where bush leaguers are hacking and whacking the superstars.
You are absolutely right. The league is watered down enough. There are five to six players on each team that should be in the minors.
Why is arena location allowed to be used as an excuse for Ottawa but not Atlanta. Also Atlanta lost their first franchise because the owner went broke in his other business and Calgary outbid Ted Turner. The Thrashers got doomed by the Time Warner AOL merger. I wouldn't go out of my way to go back to Atlanta but a new building and an ownership using Anson Carter as a front man than the league can tout some weak diversity in ownership nonsense
@@darinkasaboski6829
There are actually three potential owners for an NHL team in Atlanta. The Krause group has a lead on Carter's group.
@@willp.8120 Until they get tired of losing money, too.
Thank God Deitch is there to give the bottom line why a team wont come to Canada. Lack of multibillionaires. Having a team in Markham sounds fun but I see no arena and no governments willing to build one
Atlanta is sixth-largest U.S. metropolitan area, always be attractive. Southern Ontario can support another team easily, probably 3 like New York.
A track record of losing multi-millions annually should never be attractive.
You were able to take the train to the Philips Arena.
They might as institute relegation as there are already too many mediocre teams in the NHL.
Make it like European soccer leagues where 3 garbage teams get relegated every year.
Then no one would buy a franchise for a billion dollars if they may get relegated to the AHL. What they do in Europe wouldn't translate here.
@darinkasaboski6829 It's all about TV revenue which is dwindling in most major sports. Once that bounty is gone--especially in the USA we'll see massive changes in several sports.
@darinkasaboski6829 💯 I was being sarcastic but dear God the NHL is its own worst enemy.
Whoever the insider who said nhl is under represented in the USA compared to other big sports isn't thinking that you still need to count the Canadian teams because you don't jave enough talent to support so many teams. Every league is watered down when it comes to talent and it makes some teams just unwatchable in my opinion.
The NHL has crap TV revenue compared to other sports so expansion $$$ is easy money for this crowd.
Crap TV ratings in U.S., too! Last year's Stanley Cup final: 2.6 million viewers. This year's Women's March Madness final? 13.2 million!!
The NHL will never challenge football or basketball in the U.S. Too bad the owners refuse to deal with that reality.
Agreed. Crap ownership and horrible location downtown. No one wants to drive downtown. People live in the suburbs. I'd drive to either of the proposed counties from Lake Lanier for sure.
I think the max should be 34, with 16 making the playoffs…. It should be 50/50 or possibly 47/53 with the majority missing the playoffs
NHL pundits love to blame everything on location as if they aren’t the ones who chose the location in the first place😂😂😂 so dumb
move the leafs to Atlanta
Sure and move the Falcons and Braves to MEXICO CITY!
Goodness, what happened to Bob? I haven't watched this show in a long time. He sounds like he may have suffered a stroke.
Ya he did a while ago.
Two of them. His takes still suck
It will only happen in Toronto if MLSE splits up. Bell gets a team, Rogers gets a team
Is not going to happen. If one was willing to buy the other out of MLSE, it would have been done already. At the moment both companies are cutting back, neither probably has the appetite to buy out the other, and who ever is being bought out, probably currently doesn't have the appetite to turn around and try and launch a expansion team.
For years they said Bell should bring the Expos back. Don't hold your breath. Everything is too sweet in MLSEs current setup
It's not the size of the market, it's just not a hockey market
And you say this because?
@@willp.8120 Atlanta failed twice already at keeping an NHL team
@@markfeland2285 That was on ownership. Had nothing to do with fan support. Get a competent owner who isn't going to sabotage the team and it will thrive.
@@willp.8120 That's the classic excuse in Phoenix nowadays, too.
The original team played in the Omni. Betman has to go. Atlanta has now had two chances the Flames and the Thrashers. Give it up Gary. Quebec deserves the next franchise. Betman is a complete idiot.
They got 750 million for the last expansion team. 30 years ago they got 50. Yeah Bettman has to go lol.
You seem to underestimate just how massive Atlanta is in size. It is basically the size of 17 Quebec City urbanized areas, developmentally.
@@willp.8120 mexico city is more massive then atl. and bigger than nyc. So going by your warped theory you keep rehashing that size of market matters then should mexico city get an nhl team too?
@@stevenbauer4799 Mexico City has a larger population, but it's urbanized area ( land built up) is tiny in comparison to Atlanta.
Furthermore, Mexico doesn't watch hockey. Totally incompatible culture with hockey.
@@willp.8120 They can fill a 100,000 seat soccer stadium. still doesn't matter. thats a massive population for fannies tv viewers which is all nhl cares about. and atl. demographics culture aint suited for nhl success. and they don't watch nhl or go to games as well.
Atlanta.... Houston.... Phoenix..... Portland
Hamilton
Could support a team, but too close to Buffalo and Toronto.
If the NHL puts another team in Atlanta I'm done with the NHL for good. Gary Bettman has done NOTHING for hockey in Canada.
A luxury tax system would put teams like Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver at the top of the league. The NHL is crippling the Canadian teams on purpose and keeping the NHL out of Canada.
Found 2 owners for Ottawa to keep them there. Blocked Edmonton from going to Houston. Brought Winnipeg back. Thanks for making no sense
@@darinkasaboski6829 Got rid of Quebec and Winnipeg in 1995, despite sold-out arenas and massive fan interest. Blocked a move of the Coyotes to Hamilton by RIM CEO. Instituted a salary crap system so that Toronto funds money-losing teams in the southern US.
Atlanta is the 6th largest metro area in the USA. There is no reason for Atlanta not to have a team.
@@willp.8120 Atlanta is not a hockey market. They have failed multiple times. There is EVERY reason not to have a team in Atlanta.
I would put a team in Quebec City, a team in Hamilton, a second team in Toronto, a team in Cleveland, a team in Baltimore, and a team in Windsor before I EVER considered Atlanta.
@@taekwondotime
And you would be ridiculous for it? Baltimore doesn't even have half the population. Quebec City metro is one-eighth the population of Atlanta. Cleveland is one third the size of Atlanta. Windsor is basically a suburb of Detroit. No reason for them to have a team.
Atlanta's sports' attendance is one of the best.