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  • @nwa7769
    @nwa7769 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    I remember in 2003, Abramovitch offered 100 millions € for Raúl that was on top of his game and the best player in the World in that period. It was the craziest number we’ve ever heard of at that time, the first ever player to get an offer of 100 millions until Gareth Bale… 10 years later…
    And yet Real Madrid still refused.

  • @barrypegg3070
    @barrypegg3070 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    The Premier League voted to change the rules on maximum length you can spread a players purchase price over ( to 5-years) at beginning of December 2023. You can still give a player a contract for as long as you like but you can only spread the cost of that purchase over maximum period of 5 years, same as EUFA.

    • @ZealandonYT
      @ZealandonYT  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Commenting under this so more people see it, happened after we finished our research, good for people to know but obviously far too late to stop Boehly's strategy

    • @SongofIceandTea
      @SongofIceandTea 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the real question is, why Newcastle didn't use this loop hole before the rules changed ? they literally the richest club in Europe, the only big name they bought was Tonali and he's gone for a season now.

    • @BawdyBadger
      @BawdyBadger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SongofIceandTea Maybe they just never thought of it.
      Newcastle had a huge amount of wiggle room under FFP at the start because Mike Ashley didn't spend any money. So they could average the big spending over those years. Although it seems they thought they would be more profitable by now.

    • @PrinceOlaf
      @PrinceOlaf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SongofIceandTea Newcastle would have had a difficult time doing so as they have many eyes on them and taking the Boehley approach would be both incredibly crazy as it blows up their long term planning project but also would have been swiftly and decisively closed by EPL at the first sniff of them doing that.

  • @Big73Red
    @Big73Red 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Chelsea: football's embodiment of the "I'll do it again meme"

  • @marktalbotmusic
    @marktalbotmusic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Chelsea’s new shirt sponsor Infinite Athlete is US based, not Saudi based.

  • @dominicbarden4436
    @dominicbarden4436 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +136

    Full disclosure for this: I'm a Chelsea fan.
    In the years immediately before Abramovich took over Chelsea were a consistent top 6 side. Their League results from 1996-2003 (which was when they started improving from finishing either 11th or 14th in the early years of the Prem) show they didn't come from absolutely nowhere as people might believe:
    1996-'97: 6th
    1997-'98: 4th
    1998-'99: 3rd
    1999-2000: 5th (and in their debut UCL campaign they reached the quarter-finals, losing to Barcelona in admittedly somewhat catastrophic fashion: after winning 3-1 at Stamford Bridge they lost 5-1 at the Nou Camp!)
    2000-'01: 6th
    2001-'02: 6th
    2002-'03: 4th
    They won several cups during this time as well:
    FA Cup: 1996-'97, 1999-2000 and were also runners up in 2001-'02
    League Cup: 1997-'98
    UEFA Cup Winners Cup: 1997-'98
    UEFA Super Cup: 1998
    FA Charity Shield: 2000
    Granted, some of it was perhaps helped by Chelsea taking on several international star players in 1996 such as Gianfranco Zola, Gianluca Vialli, Roberto Di Matteo, Frank Leboeuf etc. with Ruud Gullit as player-manager (replaced a couple of years later by Vialli), but still, the club was a force to be reckoned with, particularly in the cups, even if it still didn't quite have the firepower of the likes of Arsenal and especially Man United.
    For me as a Chelsea fan, I find the history of the club pre-Abramovich really interesting. I think Chelsea are one of the youngest clubs in the top flight currently, only being founded in 1905, by which time the Football League had already been around for nearly twenty years! The history of the club in the First Division was mostly spent in and around the middle of the table with the occasional relegation to the Second Division (interestingly, Chelsea have two Second Division titles, both from the 1980s, but before that had been promoted five times, finishing 2nd every time!). I think they've always been up-and down, as exemplified by their first league title in 1954-'55. They won having finished 8th the previous season and 19th in the two seasons before that, but their title defence... if you thought 2015-'16 was bad when they finished 10th, try 1955-'56; they finished 16th!
    If Abramovich hadn't taken over would the club have gone bust? Possibly. If someone else with a decent amount of money had bought the club instead would they have had the same or similar amount of success they did under Abramovich? There's the million-pound question, and the answer is very likely no, but I like to think that they could have taken a league title or two, and some cups, maybe some European success, but the sheer number or trophies that they've won over the last 20 years was probably something that could only happen with Abramovich and his influence.
    While the Abramovich era certainly inflated the trophy cabinet at a rate of knots, did it break football? I don't know. If anything, I think Todd Boehly's spending over the last couple of years has broken it more. Look at United's dominance of the early years of the Prem with seven titles in the first ten years and many other trophies besides. Yes, stability was key with the Class of '92 and the Class of '95, but I find it hard to believe that financially United weren't one of, if not the, best financed clubs at the time thanks to their success. Did other teams have to spend to catch up? I'm only speculating here but I find it hard to imagine that that wasn't the case. Obviously it was nowhere near the levels we see nowadays, but still. Anyone in the comments who followed football at the time, let me know, but I feel like the formation of the Premier League by breaking away from the Football League with the TV deal with Sky might have set English football on this path anyway with all the money that was coming into the game as a result. Abramovich's rapid spending and almost instant results (Chelsea didn't win any trophies until his second season as owner, after all) maybe accelerated it, and even if he hadn't paved the way someone else might well have had the same idea, just maybe a little further down the line.
    The chaos with the revolving door of managers and players that characterised the era certainly ripped up the rulebook, but I honestly think it's the exception rather than the rule in terms of it bringing sustained success. Look at the perceived managerial and player chaos United have gone through since Sir Alex Ferguson retired for example, and how many trophies they have won in that time (1 FA Cup, 2 League Cups, a Europa League and 2 Community Shields), and they've spent loads too over the years. Guardiola and Klopp have proved at City and Liverpool respectively that the general rule of stability bringing consistent success is still alive, though admittedly Pep does also have the advantage of financial firepower from City's owners.
    To be honest, I think Boehly's spending in his tenure so far has been reckless, a gamble pinned on getting results which just hasn't paid off so far. And while we're (somehow) in with a shot at a getting a European slot right now as well as hopefully in the running for a cup (fingers crossed for the match tonight against 'Boro), I'm apprehensive about the financial consequences if we don't, epseically with the Profit and Sustainability rules and the investigation over Abramovich's spending over our heads.
    The thing is though, and people really need to realise this, is that spending loads of money doesn't guarantee success. Chelsea are a fine example of both sides right now: you can spend all the money you want, have the best coaches, players and facilities, but it's all got to gel together, football is a team sport after all. Abramovich made it work, whereas Boehly so far, definitely hasn't.

    • @vin2676
      @vin2676 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I don’t think we would have gone bust. Chelsea fan too. Stanford bridge is in one of the best city locations in the world central London. In one of the richest areas in the world
      Just that alone is a flex and something rich people like owning. If it weren’t abramovich there most certainly would have been someone else

    • @vin2676
      @vin2676 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do I think another rich person would have made us as successful as Roman. No but also at the same time. With out constant manager sackings and not able to give anyone time (pos and negs to it) pos being no deadweight. Neg is no chance to build a system and it causes chaos. Look at what pep has done with city. We never gave anyone that chance. So at the same time I do think we underperformed in the Roman era but I don’t think we would have won as much as we did with another billionaire owner at the same time

    • @Im_helpless
      @Im_helpless 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Jfc bro wrote a novel about why his team sucks

    • @johnniea4684
      @johnniea4684 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It is true that Chelsea were a solid club for some time before Abramovich took over. I considered them a "cup" team at that point, rather than a genuine title contender, because they hadn't really put in a serious league challenge during all the time I'd been watching football. When Abramovich bought the club, they were already a strong team, so the money (and hiring Mourinho) had a major, instantaneous effect - back-to-back title wins. The same didn't happen with Man City a few years later. Again, City were something of a "cup" side, though unlike CFC they'd been an up-and-down outfit for years, even being in the third tier in the late-1990s. The Thai owners had pumped some funds in and stabilized them into a kind of "best of the rest" contender before the UAE bought the club, so it took longer to establish them as a genuine force than it had with Chelsea.
      I don't agree that CFC "broke" football as such. They definitely helped drive up fees and wages, but the TV money deluging the Premier League had been going on for over a decade before Abramovich arrived on the scene with his fat chequebook. The TV deals negotiated by the league, plus the expansion of the Champions League in the late 1990s helped freeze domestic football into its current state of those clubs who compete (plus Spurs lol) and the rest who make up the numbers. This has only been disrupted by the acquisition of CFC and MCFC by hugely rich owners who are happy to spend vast sums. It's unlikely that the current "richest club in the world", Newcastle United will be able to force their way in as the drawbridge has been pulled up via the league's PSR rules.
      Sadly, as an Everton fan (😬) my club, though well positioned to take advantage of the new, monied Promised Land of the EPL (as one of the so-called "big 5" who were driving forces for its creation) stumbled straight out of the blocks and through sheer owner/board incompetence went backwards while the likes of Man United etc went into overdrive.

    • @joehunt390
      @joehunt390 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed, yes we spent money under roman but we didn't break football for sure, we weren't breaking transfer records etc for the most part, until towards the later part of his reign.
      As for Todd, he is literally a no football knowledge guy throwing money around without a clue how to get it to work! He definitely needs to give the day to day control to someone knowledgeable in football....
      Having money and spending helps but it definitely doesn't guarantee success, psg still waiting fir a ucl win and how much have they spent

  • @michealdeangelo7452
    @michealdeangelo7452 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Chelsea fans have let trophies blind them to the fact that while Roman’s ruthless nature was what led them to their success, it prevented them from building any sort of longevity.
    Imagine how many trophies Chelsea missed out on if they didn’t unjustly fire Mourinho in his first tenure and Ancelotti for finishing 2nd.
    All the debt was built up from the relentless spending because they were constantly rebuilding for their new managers almost every season.

    • @samitovv
      @samitovv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Chelsea will always be chelsea

    • @HowellSzn
      @HowellSzn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Oh well they still have more history then Arsenal lmao

    • @tsebmai
      @tsebmai 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mourinho have expiration date of 3 years in each team where he works, but overall good point.
      But I still love this chaotic unstable and passionate system. Brings alot of emotions

    • @OnnumMuttaiyum
      @OnnumMuttaiyum 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still Chelsea has reached more finals and trophies which city is coming up to right now

    • @SongofIceandTea
      @SongofIceandTea 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But Man City shows that if you want invest big you'll need the right man to do it, Man City since Pep spent 1.5 billion on players transfer by now and they've won 5 PL, and 1 UCL in 7 years, that's only 1 less UCL than what Abramovic won in 13 years.

  • @tonyd7185
    @tonyd7185 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Something about setting the example for the "modern" football transfer market, have a look at Jack Walker at Blackburn Rovers 1991 - 1995

  • @DMMoore1313
    @DMMoore1313 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Haven't met someone who hates Chelsea more. Always makes derogatory comments in other videos then posts this.

    • @lepekhovm
      @lepekhovm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah this guy is a fucking clown

    • @depekthegreat359
      @depekthegreat359 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I fully hate Chelsea extremely so much ever since 2003,good friends!!!

  • @willmena96
    @willmena96 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    For me, the worst part of this is that we'll never go back. Even if Chelsea absolutely collapsed, everything has changed forever.
    The smaller clubs know they can ask for absurd amounts of money to sell their key players because the top dogs will outbid each other lol. Now everyone wants their 100M transfer for their best player

    • @notsaying7018
      @notsaying7018 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So what smaller clubs cant make money you elitist

    • @willmena96
      @willmena96 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@notsaying7018 I thought this was Reddit for a second

    • @Therealmrhandsome
      @Therealmrhandsome 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@willmena96 Totally the market wasn't changed when Neymar moved for over £200 million to PSG or Maguire to United for £80 Million..... even going back to 2002 united payed what would be £199 million for Rio Ferdinand today in 2002

    • @willmena96
      @willmena96 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Therealmrhandsome that's part of the same problem. Nowadays it barely has to do with Chelsea

    • @SongofIceandTea
      @SongofIceandTea 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Therealmrhandsome you can't simply said that Ferdinand was 199 mil euros by now, there are no solid way to calculate the right value of a player, nor about the right inflation rate, because every price is up to the buyer and the sellers.

  • @amogushapymeal7336
    @amogushapymeal7336 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +256

    from champions league winners to the Brighton B team 💀

    • @ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh
      @ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      THE WORST PART IS THEY DON’T PLAY SANCHEZ ANYMORE. THEY JUST STOLE BRIGHTONS GK 😂

    • @ttvfofana
      @ttvfofana 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nhhe’s injured mate

    • @ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh
      @ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ttvfofana fair enough still the fact they can’t play in is funny 😂

    • @roryasrorri701
      @roryasrorri701 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Brighton C team
      and i'm a Chelsea fan
      *can't wait for them to pay £100 mil for that kid Ferguson

    • @simbachegura6232
      @simbachegura6232 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​kl bbvv n.

  • @pontinrob
    @pontinrob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I'm Waiting for the Ipswich video how we went from undesirable to undeniable, as a fan I'm happy to help

    • @Alex58399
      @Alex58399 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      🚜

    • @ryan_lmao
      @ryan_lmao 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      from a purely outside and united stance: kieran mckenna.

    • @pontinrob
      @pontinrob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryan_lmao he is a big part but the new owners and the fact we have done so much work off the pitch and in community have changed the feeling of club from top to bottom

    • @dominicbarden4436
      @dominicbarden4436 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@pontinrob Do you think you'll get promoted or will the three teams relegated last season prove to be too strong? Either way, Ipswich have been great this season. And a shout-out to West Brom as well, despite their dire financial situation they're right in the hunt for the playoffs.

    • @pontinrob
      @pontinrob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dominicbarden4436 at start of season I'd said top half possible playoffs, honestly now I'd say we should get promoted only big game we have left is Southampton next 10 games 9 are on bottom half of table

  • @MrAce86Productions
    @MrAce86Productions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    As a Chelsea fan since the 60's, even prior to Abramovich, we were signing players like Vialli, Zola etc on big salaries back then and were a great cup team. Florentino Perez started Galactico era however, Silvio Berlusconi was the first Billionaire owner who properly invested in his but Abramovich took it a step further and perfected it.
    Although Berlusconi and Perez were billionaire club owners injecting cash, Abramovich was the first proper foreign billionaire owner outspent those guys collectively within 2 years of ownership which set the world alight and although he made the tough calls, he was the owner of Chelsea and was pretty efficient at it.
    With the loaning of players etc, many European teams would loan close to what Chelsea would loan out without the media picking those teams apart and Chelsea perfected making money from the loan system with younger player and selling for huge cash.
    Although I am against American ownership of European sport and dislike Boehly as he was given the club due to Abramovich being forced to sell as the British and USA government had a vendetta against him, Abramovich will be Chelsea's greatest owners regardless.
    I have never liked Pochentino and with him already moaning about not knowing when Chelsea will be a success again, the sooner he goes, the better and should sign Mourinho as his replacement as not only we have a number of players who fit his mould, he'll steady the ship within a season etc because we will need it quickly before FFP bites us on the ass.

  • @liverpool1496
    @liverpool1496 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have never clicked off a video to subscribe to a new channel faster! Love your stuff Zealand❤

  • @AndreyChichagov
    @AndreyChichagov 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sunderland mention, hell yeah

  • @nib4626
    @nib4626 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You did Chelsea a disservice by not mentioning that they were a team on the up in footballing terms before Abramovich arrived. Chelsea between 1994 and 2002: reached 4 FA Cup finals, winning 2 of them, won the UEFA Cup Winners Cup, won the UEFA Super Cup against Real Madrid, won the League Cup, finished 3rd (4 points behind treble-winning United) in 98/99, reached the UCL quarter finals in 99/00, and had world class players like Zola, Gullit, Desailly.
    Chelsea in the years just before Abramovich were already breaking into the top end of English football. People heap praise on the likes of Brighton, West Ham and Villa at the moment, but Chelsea were doing everything they are doing and more because they actually won trophies.
    It's funny to think about how Chelsea were a really well liked team by the whole country in this period. Younger people today assume Chelsea's sudden success was completely artificial, and while the takeover of course lifted them to new heights and bigger trophies, that never would have happened without the steady rise of the club beforehand because Abramovich wanted to buy a UCL club. It's nothing like the City takeover; they were terrible pre-Sheikh Mansour, famously losing 8-1 at Boro just before he came in.

    • @1882osr
      @1882osr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They weren't universally liked at all. You're looking back with rose tinted glasses, it's just no one gave much of a shit.
      People generally didn't hate City either until they started throwing around billions and winning titles

    • @nib4626
      @nib4626 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@1882osr I never said universally. They were just one of those teams who many had a soft spot for and enjoyed watching. They had entertaining players, they had flair, they had memorable scalps against the big boys (e.g. 5-0 league win against then treble-holding United), and they did the league and country proud by beating Real Madrid in a European final, a very rare feat. It's not a lie to say that plenty of people enjoyed Chelsea's rise, it was good fun for neutrals. It was 2003 that they became hated overnight, understandably.
      You're right about City. No one cared about them one way or the other before 2008 because they were unremarkable.

  • @nicolasjavaloyes4459
    @nicolasjavaloyes4459 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are one of the best youtubers i've seen when it comes to research and presentation of the facts not for a football youtuber but for a youtuber period.

  • @bijoyshah464
    @bijoyshah464 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think you definitely shouldve mentioned sale and the academy, the entire plan is to sell academy players because they provide pure profit, and having ine of the best academys in the world, i dont think its unimaginable that they can sell a player lets say like palmer for 100 mil in a couple of years if he continues the way he is. Still overall good video enjoyed it tons!

  • @MrHastygamer
    @MrHastygamer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I saw a thing about how chelsea have made tonnes of money selling so maybe they’ll be ok rn but I feel like they bought for the future and a lot of the players just aren’t going to be good enough quick enough. No ucl could be the killer for them I think. Maybe that brings the owners to support the Super League.

    • @HH-mw5dr
      @HH-mw5dr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The academy players will be sacrificed

  • @SongofIceandTea
    @SongofIceandTea 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chelsea broke football with Abramovic, but with Boehly, Chelsea just broke them self.

  • @amsiizluerta1837
    @amsiizluerta1837 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A lot of people clown them for the position they are in as far as the table, which is understandable. But people need to remember most of the signings they made were not to win now. Only time will tell, but they’ve grabbed a lot of the top prospects for the next generation of ballers

    • @enders357
      @enders357 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unless that "next generation of ballers" gets some regular game time they're more likely to become the next generation of failures. Either way, they'll still be at Chelsea on their incredibly long and expensive contracts.

  • @cloud34video
    @cloud34video 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video!
    Couple of corrections though.
    The Chelsea front of shirt sponsor is a US based firm
    The Premier League voted in favour of a maximum of 5 years worth of amortisation on a player's contract in December. I believe it's already in effect.

  • @Fcappellafc
    @Fcappellafc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I think if we're talking about market-breaking strategies, we have to mention Florentino Perez's first Galácticos policy which started prior to Abrahmovic's purchase of Chelsea. R9 and Beckham for huge sums at the time and back-to-back world record fees for Figo and Zidane pushed the bar of spending in top level Europe to compete with Serie A money. Granted, Chelsea didn't spend such amounts on a single player but collectively it surely surpassed it. If Chelsea's success was a blossoming flower setting an example of success with billionaire owners and ludicrous transfers, Real Madrid was surely its seed.

    • @oldskoolmusicnostalgia
      @oldskoolmusicnostalgia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Real Madrid was 1 big signing a year over 2000-03 accompanied by many smaller ones
      Chelsea totally broke the model by bringing nearly a dozen new players in one summer alone (2003), then half a dozen or so in the summers that followed.

    • @goncaza1272
      @goncaza1272 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The thing is madrid generated that money

  • @JD-cf3mv
    @JD-cf3mv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    so I wonder if Abramovich hadn't bought Chelsea or any club for that matter would we be witnessing how good the Premier league has become. ie Abramovich buying Chelsea had an almost instant impact into the league by wining in his second year which drew interest from other wealthy owners who jumped on board and pumped serious money into the premiership to basically buy most of the best players, update grounds, update their academies etc....Of course the TV rights also had an impact but would the prem be where it is without his input...yes or no?

    • @1882osr
      @1882osr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're missing the obvious thing there... The reason Abramovich was willing to spend so much money was because the premier league was already such a global hit.
      He didn't make the league, his money just placed his team in the most prominent place in the most prominent display case in world football

    • @tonymellow9067
      @tonymellow9067 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      something not mentioned is how much Abramovich invested in the academies and women's team. He elevated both significantly and other clubs have followed suit. We're very proud of our women's team, which the new owners have continued to heavily invest in.

  • @TylerAven10
    @TylerAven10 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think the biggest thing that shows just how chaotic Chelsea is to me is how it feels like Connor Gallagher has been playing in Chelsea’s first team for 10 years, since he’s like their 3rd captain, but he’s really only been a regular for 18 months.

  • @thargoff
    @thargoff 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super great editing and video!

  • @Psspresident
    @Psspresident 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Boehly has found a way round FFP, sort of, well done mate, top work…but as with so many other owners, the impact of signing so many players, hiring the wrong managers and generally not having a clue how to run an actual Premier League club, has already taken its toll.
    Wonder how long it is until the fans turn on him like his fellow countrymen up at Old Trafford?

  • @Stryth
    @Stryth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I wish this was better researched. The spendings under Boehly are offset by the player departures. In the last ten years, Chelsea have also made the most money in terms of player sales. They've also made a lot of pure profit transfers by selling highly sought after youth profits like Mason Mount, Lewis Hall, Reuben Loftus Cheek, Maatsen etc. Even things like Chelsea signing a deal with Infinite Athletic and saying Chelsea made a deal with Saudi Arabia... Infinite Athletic is a Californian company.

    • @BawdyBadger
      @BawdyBadger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      he even thanked his "researcher" at the end lol

    • @ZealandonYT
      @ZealandonYT  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Transfers out are accounted as pure profit and have no effect on the hundreds of millions of pounds they are due to pay past 2030
      This is why I didn't say they would be in trouble now, they aren't in trouble now, they are more likely to find trouble in the future unless they can keep producing money to cover it in FFP

    • @ZealandonYT
      @ZealandonYT  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BawdyBadger Also Yacov is quite good, we collaborate on videos together all the time, he's an actual academic that studies football/soccer
      I will stand for no research slander

    • @BawdyBadger
      @BawdyBadger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ZealandonYT first just want to say I enjoy your content, especially following your saves on twitch.
      2nd. I think it was quite poorly researched. I'm not a Chelsea fan, otherwise I could probably have noticed more issues. I just think it was poorly researched without any depth. It was something you would find in a tabloid. Based on your other videos I honestly expected better.

    • @ZealandonYT
      @ZealandonYT  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BawdyBadger I would love to know what you think we missed, so I can either refute it or correct it in the future

  • @MrHastygamer
    @MrHastygamer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just another few billions and they could have something going there.

  • @iliasVoolgaris
    @iliasVoolgaris 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When he said "2 CL's" i legitimatelly thought he mispoke and meant Europa League titles, i completely blanked on the fact that Chelsea won the 2021 CL, like it never happened.

  • @stokerino1905
    @stokerino1905 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice of Z to drop a Chelsea video hours before I get to watch us (probably) get knocked out of the League Cup by Boro. 😂

  • @incorruptible_judge
    @incorruptible_judge 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content as always Z keep up the quality work

  • @williamjensen6951
    @williamjensen6951 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video . could you perhaps do one about city aswell ?

    • @Chengyuan79
      @Chengyuan79 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yah. The one on their 115 FFP thingy? 😅

  • @wizardsleeve17
    @wizardsleeve17 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Derby county got docked points for breaching the accounting for doing the same things with contracts. Same country but different governing bodies makes the English game a joke, Prem and EFL teams are treated so different from finances to how ffp works. Favors the teams who have been in the prem and makes efl teams have to rick everything to try and compete. We will see teams die trying to compete.

  • @bentarbuck6161
    @bentarbuck6161 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big fan of this kind of video! Well done to all involved. Brave step to try this and risk the channels rep but its clear a lot of effort and care goes into them

  • @jakescookingchannel1657
    @jakescookingchannel1657 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a baseball fan before falling in love with European football. The AAV (annual average value) of a player’s contract is what baseball front offices manage to stay out of the “you’re spending to much money” tax. Interesting to see these kind of collide

  • @stevw6013
    @stevw6013 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Four TH-cam channels Zealand, four? That's insane.

  • @bassmin954
    @bassmin954 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a Chelsea fan I have watched that game against Liverpool on the final day. Abramovich was apparently doing the same and waiting to see who will make it to the CL to make an offer. Liverpool had advantage in points before the game, so draw was taking them to the top 4 and Chelsea needed a win

  • @Bowleskov
    @Bowleskov 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let me link the Chelsea and Reading stories in one man, Ron Gourlay. Ron Gourlay was at Chelsea 2004-2014 rising to be CEO in 2009. Ron Gourlay was appointed CEO by Dai at Reading in July 2017 he left in November 2018. Gourlay then moved onto another Chinese owned club West Brom and is now at Al-Ahli FC in Saudi. I do, however, think Abramovich only succeeded at what Jack Walker (Blackburn), John Hall (Newcastle) and Peter Risdale (Leeds United) had already attempted.

  • @GHzSacred
    @GHzSacred 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    UEFA and the Premier League can't ban contracts over 5 years, they banned the cost of transfers being spread over more than 5 years.

  • @Blockhead-lc6fr
    @Blockhead-lc6fr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ze is the kind of creator you still enjoy even though the topic does not interest you any more.

  • @TheGordybear
    @TheGordybear 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its interesting the comment about Gronkjaers goal.
    Folk at City put Paul Dickov's goal at Wembley as the most important in their history

  • @andrewlow5547
    @andrewlow5547 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this thumbnail sure reminds me of a james jani video on SBF😂

  • @BlueBrit92
    @BlueBrit92 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic video Zealand!

  • @alastairnicolson4992
    @alastairnicolson4992 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please, the emphasis in Abramovich is on the O. AbramOvich. Alternatively, one can use the shortened, four letter version of his name where the emphasis is obviously on the u.

  • @barnenforsbergforsberg7324
    @barnenforsbergforsberg7324 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Oh come on... 3:45 💙❤

  • @lewis_kelly
    @lewis_kelly 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dai Yongge & Anton Zingarevich within a split second nearly finished me off Zealand..

  • @TickleMySmurf
    @TickleMySmurf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Chelsea fan here: Personally I don't feel like Chelsea ruined/broke anything, I think we just gained access to the party. Certain aspects at the top of English Football were one-dimensional up until our '03 buyout, so Arsenal/United had to think about more than just each other. Chelsea became the 3rd party of the Prem at the time, and of course if there's one thing the top guys hate, it's when someone else learns to beat them both.
    Also, Chelsea were consistently a top-half team with several trophies in the years leading up to the '03 buyout, and without those years, it's likely Roman would've selected Tottenham as his London investment.
    Finally, despite recent Boehly spending, Chelsea don't have near the highest net spend in the current game, proving that it's not just about making the biggest moves, it's about making the right moves. Something Roman's Chelsea had done consistently for 19 years.

    • @sdamer4609
      @sdamer4609 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think Marina Granovskaia played as significant a role as Roman himself. If not a bigger one.

  • @mcsparshatt17
    @mcsparshatt17 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoyed that little intro 👌

  • @zaqsmith6155
    @zaqsmith6155 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's no logo on Zealandism, and I wonder if it will just be stream highlights of discussions? Anyway I'll watch and I'm excited :)
    Another great video ze (day 2 of asking for more data visualizations)

  • @FlatMetal22
    @FlatMetal22 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also a MASSIVE point has been missed here.
    It was known that he first approached Spurs via phone however whoever answered thought it was a radio hoax & brushed him aside.
    Thats why he approached chelsea in the first place.
    He wanted a london club that wasnt already a big club like Arsenal.
    I feel like most people in their 30's from UK will know this.

  • @llSuperSnivyll
    @llSuperSnivyll 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These recent years, between Chelsea and Manchester United, have shown that you can't just throw money and expect to win everything. You have to use it well...

  • @whtwht
    @whtwht 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For sports washing. Well done. Good process

  • @Jama004
    @Jama004 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    BOEHLY DOES NOT OWN CHELSEA!!!!! NOT JUST HIM. CLEARLAKE CAPITAL IS THE MONEY

    • @ZealandonYT
      @ZealandonYT  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My friend Boehly was the director that set their transfer strategy in place, for the purposes of this topic, he was dictating the strategy

  • @WelshSscouser
    @WelshSscouser 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video but I disagree FFP was purely to maintain the status quo but rather to stop the likes of Bury FC happening

  • @flyingskier1913
    @flyingskier1913 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Using long contracts to defer FFP hits makes a ton of sense when you consider that he's coming from the Dodgers, who just deferred like a billion worth of contracts this offseason alone (although those deferrals start paying out after the contract ends). Of course MLB teams have been deferring money since like the 80s in order to avoid the competitive balance tax and sign higher paid players in the short term without it all coming due immediately but it feels like a very American tactic. Probably because we actually have salary caps and such.

  • @Benson8554
    @Benson8554 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You mention the new signing leading to failing ffp but completely ignore that they sold players for roughly £250m in the summer 🤷‍♂️

  • @robertswaine2673
    @robertswaine2673 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They haven't limited contracts to 5 years just how long a fee can be spread but other than that great video as always Z

  • @InnseGall
    @InnseGall 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be honest Real Madrid was the first to start the money tail spin we are in with the Galacticos era. But Chelsea did step it up after that...

  • @SamButler22
    @SamButler22 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be fair, Jack Walker also spent a shit-ton of money (for the time) at Blackburn and it won them a Premier League title. Just they couldn't sustain the success, and then he died.

    • @Chengyuan79
      @Chengyuan79 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Blackburn fan here. RIP.

  • @piekay7285
    @piekay7285 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Easy way to fix this: make 50 + 1 mandatory. Great for fans, great for the sport, bad for investors

  • @kradria
    @kradria 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Abramovich had a great plan and mart people around him though, whereas many others act less smart. Abramovich made the club feel pretty organic

  • @CH33KYiZninj4
    @CH33KYiZninj4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we werent the first to spend big thanks

  • @kiyu_u6009
    @kiyu_u6009 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cambodian Jersey. My man. Although we lost to Pakistan 😭😭😭😭in wc qualifiers

  • @mrshrimpeugene
    @mrshrimpeugene 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chelsea would have paid a 8.5 years contract for 8.5 years

  • @davisland2538
    @davisland2538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He’s trying to operate Chelsea like an NFL football team but without the salary cap restrictions…

  • @Paja-wz1rp
    @Paja-wz1rp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this kind of videos!

  • @HowardKarpfendale
    @HowardKarpfendale 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No words about the Cyprus leaks?

  • @depekthegreat359
    @depekthegreat359 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chelsea(since 2003) and Manchester City(since 2008) have totally destroyed the sport in England but so far,they are not being charged in a merciless manner!!!Madness from both of them and long,the sport which I have been a professional,to be continuously destroyed,good friends!!!

  • @MackeyD3
    @MackeyD3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Abramovich is arguably the most influential person in football history. For better or worse, we would not have the game we have today if not for him

    • @Benito264
      @Benito264 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it hadn't been Abramovich it would have simply been another billionaire. He was the first but the trend was inevitable and would have happened without him.

  • @MrHastygamer
    @MrHastygamer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only Palmer and maybe Enzo for me are actually good enough for top 4 PL players so they might get in trouble.

    • @ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh
      @ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Petrovic is a decent gk too tbh

    • @MrHastygamer
      @MrHastygamer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh I thought he looked better than Sanchez but I think he is there number 2

  • @flameofthegame
    @flameofthegame 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If they dont find more ways to get money and considering that their performance on the field being this bad makes every signing they made even worse , since their players values are dropping like crazy .They are preying they somehow get into CL cuz otherwise those FFP numbers will put the club in serious financial issues (and even then it will be hard ).

  • @ellishaindobo1794
    @ellishaindobo1794 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chelsea Football Club or rather Roman Abramovic, alone made modern football what it is today. Fight me! 💙💙💙

  • @humzakakakhel
    @humzakakakhel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    As an arsenal fan I'm sort of rooting for their downfall but I wonder how this money fueled rebuild will pan out.

    • @sep222
      @sep222 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      4rsenal

    • @casualsam5632
      @casualsam5632 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      not surprising tbh, must've been rough being an arsenal fan watching Chelsea win PL's, EL's and UCL's

    • @SuperJNG18
      @SuperJNG18 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah yeah yeah, Arsenal sucks

  • @Weryl
    @Weryl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well now it's more problematic because Chealsea gambled not on red but on green.
    They are not only gambling on trophies but also on players development if they fail Chealsea is gonna go into admiration and with those financial problems well... To National League.

  • @pdpandion4931
    @pdpandion4931 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean why stop at 5-8 year contracts? Why not pull an Ohtani contract where the Dodgers will only pay him $20M over the next 10 years and then pay him $68M a year for 10 more years AFTER he has retired? Chelsea contract schemes are rookie numbers!

  • @franze4
    @franze4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    respect to todd boehly for bringing chelsea back to their true level

  • @dextermmm
    @dextermmm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we will find another loopholee

  • @P3TER_Official23
    @P3TER_Official23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From a humble London club that can't win shit, to the highest spending club in the last 2 seasons that can't win shit 😂

  • @nnaemekach
    @nnaemekach 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm not going to watch this documentary cause it's obviously one sided. And I bet that they won't mention that Chelsea has made over a billion pounds in player sales in the past ten years (more than anyone in the prem), and that we had over 7 trophies before Abram. What you're witnessing at Chelsea is a solid rebuild, not a colossal failure as many media outlets would make you believe.

  • @Oldgit60
    @Oldgit60 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We’d pretty much been on the brink of disaster for 30 years before Roman pitched up with his wheelbarrow full of Roubles, but to find the root of where football is now, in terms of finances being lopsided in favour of the big clubs, you need to go back to the mid 80s and the self titled Big 5, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, Everton and Man Utd. Super league threats to the rest, gate money going to the home club only, in a blatant attempt to tie all the goodies up for themselves. Chelsea merely perfected the fiscal shitehousery started by the UK’s media darlings.

  • @mattjames6349
    @mattjames6349 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i was surprised so many players agreed to 8 year contracts? i mean they are stuck there now no matter what happens?

    • @eddievedderface
      @eddievedderface 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      150k-250k a week for 8 year guaranteed? Why wouldn't they sign a contract like that?

    • @mattjames6349
      @mattjames6349 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eddievedderface career freedom ?

  • @OddlySpecificGaming
    @OddlySpecificGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would rather watch the trickle down big money quality than Sunday league 36 games out of 38

  • @TheGradeFootballer
    @TheGradeFootballer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So much hate in the comments 😅
    Chelsea always have a plan. As a club, our women's team is a pioneer, our youth team has unmatched success, and our first team has beaten everyone and competes everywhere. We fans have lived a lot of great nights, and I am hopeful of many more with Clearlake at the helm too.
    The bitterness is understandable in banter, but rooting for downfalls? Seriously ? Abramovich gave Wimbledon Football club a loan and saved them from administration, he extended the same offer to Bolton. He was a peacekeeper in Russia-Ukraine talks, and the UK govt unfairly stole his Chelsea from him.
    The hate is unreal. We have always had owners who loved the club, and Abramovich was the best ! The bias with which Zealand talks in the video is not a true depiction of the character and ways of the man.

    • @1882osr
      @1882osr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that Roman 'I made my billions during the mafioso years in shock therapy Russia' Abramovich that's a nice guy or Roman 'I'm friends with a genocidal dictator' Abramovich?

    • @Chengyuan79
      @Chengyuan79 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreeing. From a Blackburn fan in Singapore. From a pure footballing angle, Abramovich is (still "is") one of the best football club owners in the entire world.

  • @frieza2235
    @frieza2235 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Roman Abramovich is a legend who bettered football and especially competition in the premier league

  • @ohno22446
    @ohno22446 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boehly took a lot of this from MLB deals and the Dodgers--see the Ohtani deal.

  • @ronnieplonk
    @ronnieplonk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Or we could also ban Chelsea and Man City from playing football. We live in hope...

  • @othavio1000
    @othavio1000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah I don't like the way Chelsea run things, people like to throw hate at Man City but when you stop to think a little, at least City don't try to break the game whenever they fell like, I mean, look at the transfers, Man City have only one player in the top 10 most expensive transfer for English clubs (Grealish), Chelsea has like, 3 of them... People like to throw hate at Man City but at least Man City made a 20 year project to dominate football, while Chelsea is spending billions and billions, to catch a few trophies here and there, and let's be honest, Chelsea doesn't get that amount of hate because they had a Russian (which to people is better than a Saudi owner) and now an American owner

  • @CaptainQuo
    @CaptainQuo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    English football was already going down a shitty path since the Champions League and Premier League were founded in the early 90's - Abramovich just accelerated the process. It's why I gave up on it in 1999. Who cares about a team 300 miles away when I had a local team I could attend in person and watch in Europe?
    I wish more people would support local teams and leave the EPL to upper middle class yahs and their prawn sandwiches.
    Capitalist greed ruins everything.

    • @notsaying7018
      @notsaying7018 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aw cry more commie

  • @OnnumMuttaiyum
    @OnnumMuttaiyum 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Z, I would definitely appreciate if you could remove the emotional aspect from your future videos as its clouded with not so perfect research of yours. You're still a good youtuber with lots of potential. I love your work.

  • @Jim90117
    @Jim90117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ironically the Chelsea before Abramovic were actually better than the Chelsea of today.

    • @jt19933
      @jt19933 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s false

  • @someonesch4361
    @someonesch4361 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Then there is Abu Dhabichester😂

  • @MyTeaIsMighty
    @MyTeaIsMighty 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So Chelsea is a plastic club whose success was bought with blood money. Tell us something we don't know!
    Great video, though.

  • @29Florian05
    @29Florian05 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad to see their little downfall at the moment

  • @parmaman8551
    @parmaman8551 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another theory is that Abramovich would have taken over Tottenham if Chelsea didn't make champions league the season before. Which is one reason why Tottenham fans are so bitter about Chelsea.

    • @benashby3431
      @benashby3431 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A very small reason. More like a lot of their fanbase is made up of degenerates who for a long time have directed vile abuse at Spurs players/fans. As Spurs is somewhat viewed as a Jewish club, the fans have long since been targeted with anti-semitic chants, as well has hissing noises to mimic the gas chambers during the holocaust - other clubs have also done the same, but it's always been the Chelsea fans who have been the most prolific.
      There's a reason why the fan base has taken "Yid Army" as their chant - take the derogatory term and use it as a positive.
      Quite a lot of Spurs fans actually dislike Chelsea more than Arsenal!

  • @danbanfield9764
    @danbanfield9764 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a Brighton fan I hope they keep overpaying for our players

  • @abhishekalfred3452
    @abhishekalfred3452 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chelsea is ship of theseus

  • @TheJimmyvids
    @TheJimmyvids 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cambodia lets gooo!

  • @medisteadycook5672
    @medisteadycook5672 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whatever happens tonight UTFB 🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹

  • @r2dad282
    @r2dad282 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dude needs a British accent to carry this off properly.....

  • @goalski134
    @goalski134 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    chelsea designed the prototype for destroying football, but city perfected it.