EV Charging in an Apartment Can SUCK
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- Huge thanks to Jan from @TeslaFix for hosting me and joining the discussion as well.
Links from today's show:
About half of Europeans live in apartments, though in many countries like Germany, it can be even higher. They often lack access to home charging.
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How much does residential energy cost in some of the pricier parts of Europe?
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Edited by: Roshan Khatiwada
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Also, get well soon Jan, I hope whatever happened to your hand heals up quickly!
I still am recovering from the fake cheese spray. Aka paint thinner.
Loved the cultural exchange between Brian @FutureAZA and Jan @TeslaFix - American spray cheese tastes like 1. Not Like Cheese 2. Simulated Cheese 3. Chemicals. 4. Paint Thinner
Yeah! It was super nice!
The MacMaster just drove through France and Spain and he was raving about how good the charging was....
I have had many mobile phones from many brands. I switched for various reasons. I now realize that if you are patient, whatever you covet will come to every brand, so pick what you like now.
Presently I am using a Samsung Galaxy S20. There are newer models but, my phone has been adequate overall.
i drove past a two level (story) apartment complex with uncovered "reserved" parking on the long side of the building. What a strange sight - orange extension cords cascading out of every window ending at a row of EVs. Some windows had more than one cord hanging out. The really strange thing - there was ONE yellow cord deployed. Wizzing past, I wasn't able to see what "brand" each car was, but what a crazy work around. I still wonder about the yellow cord. Do the facts have to be real to matter?
The common extension cord color denotes the gauge. Yellow is thicker, better
Imo, I would look into the new Pixel 9 coming out this year if you can wait.
I am very happy with my pixel 8 phone. A clean android installation and always one of the first with updates. Not all the bloatware that is on other phones like Samsung
Yeah, I refuse to use the crap pushed at me by Samsung on my new phone. Just say no...
My parking spot actually has an outlet :) I have thought ahead back in 2012. Congrats on the the old phone!! I'm using my phone, it was $130 US with tax and I've had it for 5 years now. Works ok, added a memory card. There isn't a scratch anywhere on it. Myself, I can't understand why people need warranty. I've never damaged a phone in my life. It's my 4th phone since 2000.
The warrant is not for when you damage it, it's for when the phone ceases functioning for some reason that it shouldn't. Such as a joint is properly soldered.
I’m still rocking with my iPhone 8 Plus the battery doesn’t make it through the day even though the iOS “claims” it at 80% anyway after Tim Cook pulled adds from X I thought nope I’m not replacing my phone I carry a battery power bank around with me and have extended its runtime to days. I’ve literally turned into a mobile charging station as I’ve help people charge their phone while on trains in hospitals and other places. Oh and I charge up my power banks with solar so it’s not costing me anything.
If space is limited an extension cord can be provided to the battery for customer convience
Wireless, in-pavement charging? Without that, or similarly easy public system, EV proliferation will be stymied.
Hi, Jan, great to hear from you and Brian again. Question for you--there are cooperatives in Europe that share chargers and costs to maintain them, right? Have you heard of people who are building new private residences and choose not only to put extra solar on the roof, extra batteries in the garage, but also put an extra car charger outside the garage, for public/private group use?
Just wondering how much entrepreneurial innovation might be happening, related to EVs and maybe also solar and batteries.
Interesting points! Thanks for sharing. I will look into this concept. It sounds pretty interesting and useful. 👍
Thank goodness you didn't give him a Big Mac or (heaven forbid) a Slim Jim.
Miracle Whip and enriched white bread might have been comical too. American white bread tastes like angelfood cake to a Euopean.
Velveta "cheese"?
Hey, we have McDonalds here too! 😂
And miracle whip. 👍
12:50 “double-check the math, put it up on the screen” … or don’t bother, that is fine too! Guess a dog ate someone’s homework?! 😅😂 🤣
This ^ 😂
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That looked like a Z-fold. Upgrade to the new Pixel Fold 2 coming out in Oct. or the Current Pixel Fold if you can't wait that long. Pixel's AI features like call screening is a game changer 👍
Also, that ending lol😅
Yeah it was a lot of fun tasting the paint thinner. 😂
Welcome in Germany, Brian
Es macht Mega Spaß mit Brian! Super witzig mit ihm.
As my ex-French wife said about American food…it’s fast BAD food!
American food is bad, but it's not like French food is any better 😂
I would consider French food as good.
@@TeslaFix If you were willing to eat that canned, yellow goop, idk if I can trust your opinion, Jan lol. All good. I'm a simple Irish-blooded man that eats potatoes.
Appreciate the reply, fella. Keep it based.
I’m doing my best to train FSD in the town with the most colonial era buildings in the country… you’re welcome Europe 😂
Rather than mandatory installation in new buildings, Europe should survey the USE of vehicles and mandate charging at those locations (I mean, they've only had *15 YEARS* to think about it!)
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Consider
1) The average use per week,
2) Requirement to charge *during* the week (during the "business day")
3) Where the "medium stay" parking occurs, and when.
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I suspect they would find that:
1) Most vehicles need no more than a "top-up" during a normal week (as in less than 20kWh) and many only every 2 weeks.
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2) Those requiring more during any week are out on the "outside of the city/ residential" main road supercharger networks anyway. (Business, between towns/ cities)
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3) The "medium stay" (1-3 hour) parking will be exactly where the ICE cars are parked (during the day/ weekend)
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Either
At home *not being used* so not requiring charge(!) Or at a (normally local) "destination" such as shopping, and "doing things" which would have a journey time that roughly equates to the "importance" of the task.
In other words, you rarely if ever drive 30 miles for a 10 minute task.
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You either "double up", as in "I'll be going to xxxx on Thursday, how about meeting then?"
or you pick a closer option.
Usually?
As a rule?
So THAT'S where you want the charging.
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Your local "business park"/ Shopping area.
Food shop?
45 min
"Housewear" shop
10 mininutes to find the item in Ikea, 45 minutes to find the checkouts (😉)
Gym
1-2 hours.
Etc
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There seems to be a weird narrative suggesting a need to keep an EV topped up EVERY day, ALL the time.
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Anyone who says "30-60% is fine!" Will be met with the "argument" (opinion) of
"AH! BUT what if you have "an emergency" requiring you to drive 300 miles with zero notice!!?"
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Rubbish.
Rubbish yourself. The easiest way to charge is just to top up whenever you're parked.
Very occasionally I will try a pack of Doritos 'Chilli Heatwave' here in the UK with some sour cream and chives they sell for dipping in supermarkets. Half a sharing packet later I will wonder why I do this to myself. I do hope Jan is going to feed you some real cheese. I mean, French or English not Swiss obviously ;)
Haha! English cheese?! NEVER! Ok, I love cheddar. I give you that.
But Swiss cheese is pretty good. The French go a little too crazy especially with the blue cheese 😄
Google pixel I have had two loved them. My son gave me an iPhone and hate it. I you are in the Google system stay there.
Is the Dorito spice, the same as the spice mined on Dune ?
Yes! I still have visions of bringing peace to Arrakis through my rule as the Muad'Dib!
Android 100% and samsung note or S series worth it and will do for years no flip fold
I'm not a fan of Samsung's bloatware. They have good hardware though. I just prefer the software of pixels even if the hardware is lagging.
Germany should be putting up wind generators and solar like there is no tomorrow.
You can raise livestock on the same land as solar is installed. No excuse.
They shouldn’t have rushed to shutdown all their nuclear plants just to placate the ’greens’ that want to burn down the Tesla factory and totally ignoring the opencast coal mine down the road wasting 144 times more water than Tesla! Anyway if the nuclear plants were still running then they wouldn’t be in the energy mess they are in now. They even tore down some wind turbines for a new opencast mine a while back!
Germany actually did a great job getting renewables going. But prices are so god damn steep! Even with nuclear power they would not sell cheap energy. The energy monopolies here just want to earn every penny they can.
@@TeslaFix Germany may have screwed itself. Do everything you can to keep the UK from doing the same!👍
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Why not charge with 115 Vac level one and then output is level 2. This can be special charger for customer who do not have 240 vac
In western Europe 3-phase 240 Volt is standard at over 99 percent of public and privately owned homes.
Just a minor mistake with the conversion of wholesale prices. Converting from $/MWH to $/KWH you have to divide by 1000, not by 100 like you did in the video. So the prices you were looking at were all around EUR 0.10/kwh, which isn't crazy.
Exactly. Came to the comments to say exactly this.
Adding network transit charges, compensation payments for regenerative energy not fed into the grid (due to congestion) and tax results in EUR 0.27+ / kwh at home.
@@sandmehlig You've missed the point. This is related to the simple conversation of $/MWh to $/KWh which was incorrectly mentioned in the video.
@@mil3761 I did not. Those MegaWatt prices are not end user costs.
@@sandmehlig again you've missed the point. He wasn't talking about losses or end user costs. He was simply converting the cost given in MWh to a KWh cost. He should have divided by 1000 but he divided by 100. Watch the clip again 10:05
My iPhone 4 died, so I got an old-style Nokia for £29 :-) Call me cheap. I am cheap.
Set up a solar array on porch free standing solar panels so you can charge a portable battery that you can roll to your car if possible and get free energy. If surface is rough to hard to roll battery then create an over head rail make by unistrut that have bearing bracket to roll the battery from point a to b. I made such a system on a hill with a wench and this saved my back while I remodel my rear yard on a hill. NOthng impossble just apply mind over matter. I am too clever for the rest of the world. When some people think in a circle, I think oval thus I was my best problem solver.
i loved my old LG G phone, but then LG decided to get out of the game, so i have the next "best" thing, a Motorola.
i do not like the way apple does business so i am not interested in any of their products.
i do not like the way samsung has their intrusive adds built into their device, so i am not interested in getting one of them. yes i know there are ways to get around them.
good luck with whatever smartphone you decide to get. each have their positives and negatives. weigh the options carefully.
I get it. Apple really is super restrictive with their eco system. But I love the usability. To me the iPhone is the go to phone for years. I use them super long. I always skip about 4 iterations.
@@TeslaFix if you buy into the apple ecosystem, you will probably keep buying, as they want to lock you in and they do not play nice with anything else, but play real nice with themselves.
once you get locked into apple products, tring to move away will leave you with a bunch of headaches with how poorly they play with non-apple products.
i prefer an open system where i can go to whatever product i want next. though i get it, most people just keep going back to what they know.
It's time for a company to drop off batteries fully charged for customers. Then once power used up an exchange full charge battery can be exchanged. Need a company with tons of solar panels willng to do this. Can make serious money
Bad idea.
Phones and computers manufacturers dropped the idea of swappable batteries a decade ago.
It’s adding a lot of complexity for a very niche usage.
Swapping batteries in cars is a 'fool's errand'.
Depends on if you really like the fold you have. You probably should get an amazon renewed zfold 5. Just don't buy new.
Not a Fold, that's just the case.
Brian
BUY A XIAOMI PHONE!!!! 😉
it might be interesting to have a dutch technician to establish what is promising considering that a lot of people ride two whales… in that part of europe
#doubledutch
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You should get an S24 Ultra. Iphones are evil in the extreme and no-one should buy them or any part of the Apple ecosystem. Since Qualcomm laptops are out this summer, there'll be even less reason to consider a Mac as if having to deal with Apple wasn't enough of a reason anyway.
The Ultra because it's the most powerful phone you can get with the best camera (until next month*) and it has the stylus which would be useful. It's a camera remote for starters and can do all sorts of things... IF you learn how to use it properly. Although realistically I think you should be using something like an DJI Osmo Pocket or similar for your out and about video - you're not an amateur and you don't need full DSLR level of photography so that might work very well for you.
*Not a specific phone, it's just ever new phone is 'better' and unless you keep them for several years that difference is minimal.
Get a Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra. It's just better. See MKBHD's review titled "Why Buy Anything Else?" If you're stuck in the Apple timeloop, just get another iPhone. 🤷🏻♂️
I watched that video. $1300 is more than a tad out of reach, sadly.
@@FutureAZA After reading some of your replies, I think the pixel is for you. Great value phone that is
In Australia we typically buy our phones through the main telco's, so your $1300 phone gets paid off at $50 a month over 2 years.
Nio will fix that problem 😂😂😂😂
Except they won't
@@rogerstarkey5390 when they create the battery swapping standard we'll get a chance to see. Unless.....the government provides subsidies for a new American battery swapping company. Battery swap is needed in highly populated areas!
"The battery swapping standard" myth?
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Based on what?
A particular technology?
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A physical size (volume) of Pack?
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A Pack *capacity* (kWh?)
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Or a combination?
(If it's a "combination" it's not "standard")
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Technology.... BMS? Specific *not only* to the pack, but the interface with the vehicle?
Good luck with *one* brand sorting that out.
Something as simple as a new charging curve will throw (for instance) range calculations out the window.
Actually, even the *same* pack type of a different age has that problem.
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Pack volume.
You say a "Standard"?
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Brain just listed an estimated 70+(?) Models, from different manufacturers.
Each with a different vehicle dimension and efficiency.
Ever heard the expression "like herding cats"?
CCS couldn't even agree on a port configuration.
Imagine the number of "WE can't do that because" comments at the first meeting?
Have you thought it through? Even just for Nio...?
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NIO had how many models? (I don't care, let's say 3)
City car.
Mid range.
Top range (large).
The "Top range" car needs a .... 120kWh pack
Mid range? 80kWh.
City? 50kWh.
You can't physically stuff the "Large vehicle" pack into the city car, the "envelope" isn't large enough.
Likewise, the other 2 don't want a dimensionally tiny 50kWh pack.
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So you need ..... 3 packs.
That's not a "standard".
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"So carry 3 pack sizes at each station"
*It's not a standard* AND you just tripped the infrastructure!
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So make the top 2 Standard?
Great! Until your first public holiday when the "80kWh" drivers all want that "100kWh upgrade".
They raid the station early and "acquire" the large packs.
Then the "large pack" drivers roll up half way to their destination to find...
No large packs.
Unless you double up on the large packs.
Now you're stock 3 pack AND double stock on one.
Which means you need the logistics to move this packs where they need to be.... At short notice.
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And plenty of other issues...
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It's a NIGHTMARE!
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@@rogerstarkey5390 Hey I love your breakdown of the issue and for sure these are all challenges that need to be addressed. Now for the alternative......continue operating in its current form where the battery pack is sealed and repairs and replacements cost 50% of the price of the car. There is no way that is sustainable. The used car market will be in shambles when no one wants to own a used EV because it's over 7 years old. You can clearly see EV's are not holding their values today and I'm not mentioning Teslas specifically. Insurance companies are totaling cars because they don't want to do the leg work to see if a battery is actually damaged beyond repair. Do I think battery swapping will take over in the near term NO! But long term it's going to be the future unless a better alternative shows up!
My next phone (probably today) will be a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5 with a 7.6" screen unfolded (used/refurbished from Reebelo, normally $1800, on sale $746.95 + $120 2-year protection ) because I have sausage fingers and a phone can not be too big. Or an old-style Blackberry. But first I need to buy 100,000 shares of Fisker stock.
Samsung S32 used longtime here.
You CHARGE at your destination when you USE the car!
Ans at home when not!
Iphone.... they just work and all the software and apps just work AND they take privacy actually seriously.
However if you like to hack your phone and run all kinds of on-the-edge quirky software then get an android based phone.
I've had both. If what you want is to be able to depend on it always working, updating on its own, and the apps (Apple has the most) working together flawlessly, go with that iphone.
I agree. Apple has the best implementation. But customizability is limited. I’ve been there and rooted every phone I had before but I’ve got tired of the time I’ve put into maintaining the phones 😂
🙋♂️BRIAN,IMHHO,TAKE JAN’s ADVICE AND GET THE IPHONE 15 and get the most Memory available,you will get used to it and you’ll never be stuck…BECAUSE I WILL TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS 🙌😬💚💚💚
*I use a $300 VIVO brand, I use them for 4-5yrs and replace, good brand and price is great for the specs!*
*My next phone will be my 3rd VIVO because they just work well and for that money AWESOME!*