Considering Rokinon is part of the L-Mount alliance and added their 35-150 f2-2.8 to the L-Mount I’m curious if these will eventually hop over to LUMIX Cameras
I have it since one week and I do love it, it's my first step with anamorphic and I find it very convenient and beautiful. I am happy to find an answer in your video, cause I do find 1.55 desqueeze when using it. It will be a bit tough to use on broadcast project if we need to change the desqueeze for each shot, depending of the distance so I will do test for constant desqueeze, like 1.6 maybe. Also, on A7SIII you have some automatic lens distortion correction, and it works spectaculary well on theses lens with the adapter. I would love to see desqueeze correction, but I probably dream too much. Same for open gate, which is probably much more possible. Otherwise, because I am not a big fan of mattebox, you have this particular reference to have a filter thread to put a VND on the lens : 95mm clamp to M95x0.75 female thread adapter from RAFCAMERA. It's so expensive, but it works pretty well. I am pretty sure that if they put "MF" in this lens name, it will be a "AF" version one day. But fore sure it will be expensive, heavy, and maybe not that easy to use, cause already with this adapter, you have to be carefull with the extraweight on your mount. Finally, I am pretty impressed by the distance focus, I dont have the 100mm, I can't wait to test it to see what look you get on 0.7 meters ! What is your final tought about this ? Is there a possible comparison with "cheap" anamorphic lens ?thoses
Pretty great review as always from your end! So helpful, thanks for putting all this work into this and your other videos. You're a invaluable resource for us indie's.
Thanks so much for doing this review. I feel Samyang/Rokinon have been weirdly low key about the launch of this adapter. So much so I was wondering was there some serious flaw. It should be a big deal I think. Meanwhile the internet is awash with reviews of the Remus - which look very good but a set would be a bit more expensive. Also they are PL and I am on Sony. So costs just start to mount up. I bought the 35 and 75mm V-af 2nd hand in anticipation of this adapter , hoping to have a full set of anamorphic primes at an entry level price point. And I think the primes are very good, and produce very nice results. So I get to use them for more "normal" 16:9 shooting. I was intending to get the Anamorphic adapter but paused while I awaited some decent reviews and some footage that I could trust. Your review here has reassured me enough to proceed with buying the adapter - Thank you PS A comparison review between the REMUS and this Samyang adapter would be interesting as I am sure REMUS have sent you a set? The two systems each add up to about €2500 for a set of three primes.... thanks again for your great channel.
I just received mine last week. I own five V-AF lenses (24, 35, 45, 75, 100) because I knew this adapter would come in the future. So happy it’s here now. I am just starting to shoot with it. Mainly with an FX6 and A7RV. I’m using a TILTA Mirage matte box and unfortunately it vignettes at the 35mm taking lens. On the FX6 it’s not a huge deal as clear image zoom helps crop it out, but not the case on the A7RV. I have to do S35 mode, or take off the matte box - and lose the VND which sucks. But, it s a small price to pay for such flexibility in this system. The adapter has made my kit full anamorphic for an overall modest price compared to doing the same elsewhere. It makes for a great travel kit because of this flexibility as well 👍
Hey! I'm not sure if you've answered this elsewhere, but are you going to make a video about the Blazar Remus Lenses? I've been waiting to see your thoughts!
I’d be interested what the results would be on a Venice 1/2 on its hidden e mount under the PL since that does have traditional anamorphic modes like 4:3 and 3:2
@10:42 I've been dying to get my hands on those viltrox diopters and to see how they perform. Would love to see a test of them! Want to buy them for my Viltrox set.
Great review overall. Fantastic footage! Two things you didn't cover that might be worth a separate video. First, how to combine spherical footage from V-AF lenses (using anamor-fake methods, maybe) with V-AF anamorphic for creative purposes. It's easy to add a little barrel distortion and edge blur in post, but a bit of amber streak and oval bokeh would be nice. Sadly, there are no E-mount to E-mount adapters, so products like Module 8 "tunable" adapter are not available. But front streak filters, and maybe oval "bokeh" stickers might work. I wonder if any color grading changes would be required. I would hope not. Second, I'd like to see what the "soft focus" mode does, and what situations it might be useful. (All other reviewers have skipped it or dismissed it.)
Stoked for these. I've not been a fan at all of the Sirui products. They lack pretty much every characteristic and beauty of an anamorphic lens, and just carry the squeeze factor and that it. These however look AMAZING.
Hi I have no idea what settings to use in FINAL CUT to desqueeze the footage :( I used your aspect ratio calculater but it does not seem right.. please help
These samyang vaf lenses are incredible on their own. Nothing comes close to their mix of character, features and build quality fir their price point. I would still say that if you need an anamorphic lens, buy a dedicated one, you can get similar quality ones for the same or less price. But if you already have a bunch if these vaf lenses, oh boy is this adapter great. (Note that I have these lenses, I have yet to buy this adapter yet but this review convinced me that it will be my next camera purchase.
5:53 I mean yeah, not cheap, but also not terribly expensive? For the same money as one Vazen you get a set (maybe not a complete one) of these. What we also always have to consider is the price of modern AF lenses, which is hardly comparable to vintage taking lenses used to much in this field. When I buy a Summicron-R for a few hundred it's expensive, when I get just a modern equiv it's usually just the common retail The image sure looks great. And E-Mount only (for now) looks not so great. But damn, I hate that Tally
@@LucasPfaff TAKE OUT THOSE LIGHTS! I had a bit in the first version of the review criticizing all the LEDs, and then the folks at Samyang said "you know, you can just turn them off!". So I took out my criticism. hahahah
Samyang is the best company ever for low budget film makers. I swear I wish I switched to Sony instead of sticking with the Canon R system because I'm super jealous
I love my Samyang V AF 24 & 75 and i am very pumped to try out the anamorph adapter. The Samyang VAF Series is a very understimated series of lenses. Remind me of the look of old vintage Zeiss lenses, that means this lenses have character and are not as clinical as Sigma or Sonys Emount lenses. I highly recommend them to filmers
Hi Tito, can i ask what do you set your project settings to on timeline and export for this lens, i used davinci and cant get the numbers around my head if you could let me know what you used for this video as i assume it was shot on the anamorphic adapter, thanks :)
Hey, I was wondering if you could upload a sample clip (even like 2 seconds) of the 24 with this adapter? Unedited, straight from the media. I'm considering a purchase but that one lens is still a mystery for me when it comes to the usage at 2.4:1 ratio
The biggest issues with this adapter is firstly the lack of filter threads, which limits your ND choices and affordable diopters become impossible to use, and as far as I'm concerned diopters are vital for anamorphic, lastly it's still an adapter and still another thing to swap with each lens change and the price to entry ends up being more expensive buying the adapter and then the lenses separately. compared to Sirui or Blazar, While it's double the value to have Spherical glass that doubles with an anamorphic adapter, that's only good if you like the glass in the first place.
Great MF-ing setup!!…as long as you’re in SONY 😢 When the SIRUI adapter came out, that Alexandru Don guy swore black and blue that if you use an AF taking lens that you now have an autofocus anamorphic setup 😂😂😂
Do you have a tutorial about this process? How to make the transition between 1.7 to 1.5 squeeze look smooth or is it just something extremely hard? I’m gonna give a scenario: you start the shot away from the subject and you slowly bring the camera close to subject and the minimal focus distance. If there is any other video you can share that explains this process will be helpful! My question is quite technical and googling It just gives me unrelated topics
You'll need to set keyframes for the X scale (it goes by different names in Resolve, Premiere, FCPx or After Effects), and know when you're at close focus so you can adjust the value.
Is there any penalty/downside or image quality problem if you use the 24mm in super 35 mode? What is the real difference between having the 35mm vs the 24mm in super 35?
Thnx Tito. Do you know if this scope is Asahi glass? Says amount. Will the combo fit onto the 6000 series (6400, 6500, etc) and function?? There are a few sony lenses w/auto focus that actually work as 'auto focus' with adapters attached (most all).. fyi. While the Blazer 1.5 is a dream, it seems this has a wider capability
Do you guys think this Is this the best anamorphic adapter on the market? How does this compare to other anamorphic adapters? I’m new to anamorphic lenses and thinking of either buy something like a Blazar Remus Or get this adaptor and a vaf lense. I like the versatility of the Samyang but it’s pricey. I wish or man here could make a more in-depth review of how this stacks against other anamorphic adaptors or even actual anamorphic lenses
Thank you! I'm just not an audio person and I constantly mess up in the process of recording, or re-recording audio. Apologies in advance for future videos!
Still waiting for someone to make an anamorphic lens with a rear element that de-squeezes the image, so you can get the anamorphic look in-camera with no editing
Er then it wouldn't be anamorphic. It would just result in a spherical final image with no squeeze. Part of the anamorphic character, some would say the main part, is that you have a wider horizontal field of view with the DOF of the vertical. No one would ever make what you describe, even if it was possible.
@@geoffreybassett6741 according to a previous video on a rear anamorphic adapter, rear elements do not change the character of the lens or shape of the bokeh. If this is true for applying a squeeze, then perhaps it could be true for applying a de-squeeze?
I'm not sure I see the attraction of shooting anamorphic. I'm not knocking it either by the way, you do you. Apart from the lens flare thing, I don't see it adding anything cinematic to a shot. There are many classic and iconic movies that do not have a single lens flare in them. In fact the lens flare thing was a relatively recent trend. I do hear many say 'oh there's just something about it' but they can never say what. In my opinion it's all about selling expensive equipment to people that think this latest gadget will be the one piece of kit that will turn their filmmaking around and at last make them the cinematographer they always knew they were deep down. And then when it doesn't they're back on Amazon looking for the next.
![Samyang 1.7x Anamorphic MF Adapter [Test Footage and Review]](/img/n.gif)
Considering Rokinon is part of the L-Mount alliance and added their 35-150 f2-2.8 to the L-Mount I’m curious if these will eventually hop over to LUMIX Cameras
Also the full frame Blackmagic cameras. I’d buy a full set of these lenses just to try out on the Cinema 6K and upcoming Pyxis.
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Definitely agree. They would go very well with the open gate Blackmagic cameras and I would be interested in purchasing them for that purpose.
BH has these listed now in L-mount for USD1,399
Samyang! Take all my L-Mount money, come one and release these!
These have some pretty amazing character
Hah that’s what I said too!
2:08 is just magical!
the method for synchro is so impressive i’m surprised it hasn’t been done before. great images, looking forward to seeing more of this
I have it since one week and I do love it, it's my first step with anamorphic and I find it very convenient and beautiful. I am happy to find an answer in your video, cause I do find 1.55 desqueeze when using it. It will be a bit tough to use on broadcast project if we need to change the desqueeze for each shot, depending of the distance so I will do test for constant desqueeze, like 1.6 maybe.
Also, on A7SIII you have some automatic lens distortion correction, and it works spectaculary well on theses lens with the adapter. I would love to see desqueeze correction, but I probably dream too much. Same for open gate, which is probably much more possible.
Otherwise, because I am not a big fan of mattebox, you have this particular reference to have a filter thread to put a VND on the lens : 95mm clamp to M95x0.75 female thread adapter from RAFCAMERA. It's so expensive, but it works pretty well.
I am pretty sure that if they put "MF" in this lens name, it will be a "AF" version one day. But fore sure it will be expensive, heavy, and maybe not that easy to use, cause already with this adapter, you have to be carefull with the extraweight on your mount.
Finally, I am pretty impressed by the distance focus, I dont have the 100mm, I can't wait to test it to see what look you get on 0.7 meters !
What is your final tought about this ? Is there a possible comparison with "cheap" anamorphic lens ?thoses
We need open gate to get the best out of this. Looking forward for an L and X mount version of this.
Those flares look great!
Love the multiple colours in the flares!
Pretty great review as always from your end! So helpful, thanks for putting all this work into this and your other videos. You're a invaluable resource for us indie's.
Thanks so much for doing this review. I feel Samyang/Rokinon have been weirdly low key about the launch of this adapter. So much so I was wondering was there some serious flaw. It should be a big deal I think. Meanwhile the internet is awash with reviews of the Remus - which look very good but a set would be a bit more expensive. Also they are PL and I am on Sony. So costs just start to mount up. I bought the 35 and 75mm V-af 2nd hand in anticipation of this adapter , hoping to have a full set of anamorphic primes at an entry level price point. And I think the primes are very good, and produce very nice results. So I get to use them for more "normal" 16:9 shooting. I was intending to get the Anamorphic adapter but paused while I awaited some decent reviews and some footage that I could trust. Your review here has reassured me enough to proceed with buying the adapter - Thank you
PS A comparison review between the REMUS and this Samyang adapter would be interesting as I am sure REMUS have sent you a set? The two systems each add up to about €2500 for a set of three primes....
thanks again for your great channel.
Hoping for a digital PL or EF mount version for universal use and speed boosting on APSc.
I just received mine last week. I own five V-AF lenses (24, 35, 45, 75, 100) because I knew this adapter would come in the future. So happy it’s here now. I am just starting to shoot with it. Mainly with an FX6 and A7RV. I’m using a TILTA Mirage matte box and unfortunately it vignettes at the 35mm taking lens. On the FX6 it’s not a huge deal as clear image zoom helps crop it out, but not the case on the A7RV. I have to do S35 mode, or take off the matte box - and lose the VND which sucks. But, it s a small price to pay for such flexibility in this system. The adapter has made my kit full anamorphic for an overall modest price compared to doing the same elsewhere. It makes for a great travel kit because of this flexibility as well 👍
Doesn't the A7RV have clear image zoom?
Still waiting for AF Anamorphic lens :(
Me too! I’m not jumping into anamorphic until then..
Blazar has some coming 😁
Hey! I'm not sure if you've answered this elsewhere, but are you going to make a video about the Blazar Remus Lenses? I've been waiting to see your thoughts!
I’d be interested what the results would be on a Venice 1/2 on its hidden e mount under the PL since that does have traditional anamorphic modes like 4:3 and 3:2
IIt's a shame it only works with this kit. I have the Rokinon DS set and I would have loved to be able to adapt it.
@10:42 I've been dying to get my hands on those viltrox diopters and to see how they perform. Would love to see a test of them! Want to buy them for my Viltrox set.
It's coming soon. :)
Very clean image of Tito! How was the script for the film already storyboarded? If you make a storyboard, tell me how it's done!
Wow, this footage looks pretty fantastic. Is the wide-angle distortion from the adapter or the prime lenses themselves?
Mostly the adapter.
Great review overall. Fantastic footage!
Two things you didn't cover that might be worth a separate video. First, how to combine spherical footage from V-AF lenses (using anamor-fake methods, maybe) with V-AF anamorphic for creative purposes. It's easy to add a little barrel distortion and edge blur in post, but a bit of amber streak and oval bokeh would be nice. Sadly, there are no E-mount to E-mount adapters, so products like Module 8 "tunable" adapter are not available. But front streak filters, and maybe oval "bokeh" stickers might work. I wonder if any color grading changes would be required. I would hope not.
Second, I'd like to see what the "soft focus" mode does, and what situations it might be useful. (All other reviewers have skipped it or dismissed it.)
Stoked for these. I've not been a fan at all of the Sirui products. They lack pretty much every characteristic and beauty of an anamorphic lens, and just carry the squeeze factor and that it. These however look AMAZING.
I agree. The Samyang lenses have a clean, very commercial look, with enough anamorphic characteristics to have "the look". I love it.
Hi I have no idea what settings to use in FINAL CUT to desqueeze the footage :( I used your aspect ratio calculater but it does not seem right.. please help
This looks magnificent.
These samyang vaf lenses are incredible on their own. Nothing comes close to their mix of character, features and build quality fir their price point. I would still say that if you need an anamorphic lens, buy a dedicated one, you can get similar quality ones for the same or less price. But if you already have a bunch if these vaf lenses, oh boy is this adapter great. (Note that I have these lenses, I have yet to buy this adapter yet but this review convinced me that it will be my next camera purchase.
Wondering how the E to Z adapter would work on Nikon cameras with those
I guess it would work. But don't take my word for it.
5:53 I mean yeah, not cheap, but also not terribly expensive? For the same money as one Vazen you get a set (maybe not a complete one) of these. What we also always have to consider is the price of modern AF lenses, which is hardly comparable to vintage taking lenses used to much in this field. When I buy a Summicron-R for a few hundred it's expensive, when I get just a modern equiv it's usually just the common retail
The image sure looks great. And E-Mount only (for now) looks not so great. But damn, I hate that Tally
You can turn off the tally lights through the lens dock!
@@AnamorphicOnABudget that's good to know. It's like this wild thought that anything and everything has to have LEDs on the outside.
@@LucasPfaff Haha same to me, I discovered the tally led like "Wow, ok it's an innovation ! But damn, I need to find how to switch off this now"
@@LucasPfaff TAKE OUT THOSE LIGHTS! I had a bit in the first version of the review criticizing all the LEDs, and then the folks at Samyang said "you know, you can just turn them off!". So I took out my criticism. hahahah
It’s all perspective. I shoot broadcast with my V-AF lenses and having the tally front and center helps everyone know when the camera is rolling.
Impressive
Can you share the ref of the clip on adapter?
Samyang is the best company ever for low budget film makers. I swear I wish I switched to Sony instead of sticking with the Canon R system because I'm super jealous
Get the Blazar 1.5xs in PL and use R adapter -I am on Canon and Red myself... trust me if your old like me and dig that old Panavision like look ....
@@NoSuRReNDeR001 Hmmm. I've never heard of this. Thank you. I'll look into it.
I love my Samyang V AF 24 & 75 and i am very pumped to try out the anamorph adapter. The Samyang VAF Series is a very understimated series of lenses. Remind me of the look of old vintage Zeiss lenses, that means this lenses have character and are not as clinical as Sigma or Sonys Emount lenses. I highly recommend them to filmers
Hang in there..🤭
I'm loving the swirls
I think this is signaling the start of something new.
This is a really dope adapter, who would you recommend this for?
Starting in anamorphic, this or the Blazar Apex for FX30?
Hi Tito, can i ask what do you set your project settings to on timeline and export for this lens, i used davinci and cant get the numbers around my head if you could let me know what you used for this video as i assume it was shot on the anamorphic adapter, thanks :)
I wonder if these would work well together with the DJI lidar autofocus 🤔
Very likely! The DJI Focus is super reliable!
Sad to hear this adapter is MF only despite being made for Cine AF lenses :/
Which lens would you choose first from that set for general use?
35 or 45!
Hey, I was wondering if you could upload a sample clip (even like 2 seconds) of the 24 with this adapter? Unedited, straight from the media. I'm considering a purchase but that one lens is still a mystery for me when it comes to the usage at 2.4:1 ratio
The biggest issues with this adapter is firstly the lack of filter threads, which limits your ND choices and affordable diopters become impossible to use, and as far as I'm concerned diopters are vital for anamorphic, lastly it's still an adapter and still another thing to swap with each lens change and the price to entry ends up being more expensive buying the adapter and then the lenses separately. compared to Sirui or Blazar, While it's double the value to have Spherical glass that doubles with an anamorphic adapter, that's only good if you like the glass in the first place.
Thanx for the great vid 👍🏻i own fx 3 and a 75mm. Should i buy a 35mm or 45 to complete the set? Cheers Mitchell
I'd bet on the 35 if you already have a 75mm. :)
@@AnamorphicOnABudget 🙏🏻
Can I ask what size mattebox would be needed to fit on the anamorphic adapter, is it 95mm? Thanks.
What adapter did you use with that matte box?
Mine is 95 and can't fit un.
Thanks for that great review
I used a 95mm and it fit. It was tight, but once I found the right angle it was not a challenge. :(
Great MF-ing setup!!…as long as you’re in SONY 😢 When the SIRUI adapter came out, that Alexandru Don guy swore black and blue that if you use an AF taking lens that you now have an autofocus anamorphic setup 😂😂😂
holy freaking cow thats dope
8:54
how did you set the squeeze from 1.7 to 1.5??
Animating the X axis zoom/scale property.
Do you have a tutorial about this process? How to make the transition between 1.7 to 1.5 squeeze look smooth or is it just something extremely hard? I’m gonna give a scenario: you start the shot away from the subject and you slowly bring the camera close to subject and the minimal focus distance. If there is any other video you can share that explains this process will be helpful! My question is quite technical and googling It just gives me unrelated topics
You'll need to set keyframes for the X scale (it goes by different names in Resolve, Premiere, FCPx or After Effects), and know when you're at close focus so you can adjust the value.
Great review! Thanks for the mention ;)
Is there any penalty/downside or image quality problem if you use the 24mm in super 35 mode? What is the real difference between having the 35mm vs the 24mm in super 35?
Thnx Tito. Do you know if this scope is Asahi glass? Says amount. Will the combo fit onto the 6000 series (6400, 6500, etc) and function?? There are a few sony lenses w/auto focus that actually work as 'auto focus' with adapters attached (most all).. fyi. While the Blazer 1.5 is a dream, it seems this has a wider capability
*emount
Do you guys think this Is this the best anamorphic adapter on the market? How does this compare to other anamorphic adapters? I’m new to anamorphic lenses and thinking of either buy something like a Blazar Remus Or get this adaptor and a vaf lense. I like the versatility of the Samyang but it’s pricey. I wish or man here could make a more in-depth review of how this stacks against other anamorphic adaptors or even actual anamorphic lenses
I’d love a Canon R version
great video! Something is up with the audio
Thank you! I'm just not an audio person and I constantly mess up in the process of recording, or re-recording audio. Apologies in advance for future videos!
Over the years, I've bought 4 Samyang lenses and none of them lasted more than a year.
I love it when products go directly to retail ... months of waiting is always a annoying
does AF work with this adapter?
No.
Thanks you for an always informative video. God bless you and have a wonderful day.
Help! My Image is always way Out of Focus. How do I have to set ist up right?
Did you update the firmware in the spherical lenses? That is the first thing you need to confirm!
Yes thank you, I Had to Order the Lens Station, updated and it worked 🎉
Bro..can I use it on Sony a 7 iv?????
Yes. :)
Can't believe Sony still doesn't do open gate and they don't have in camera desqueeze monitoring.
Sweet visual, but releasing the adapter for one mount isn’t cute. I have a whole set of cine rokinon lenses this would be fun to try on.
I think with the literal missing link and subpar connection, it's not much more fun than a common projection scope I'm afraid
Sony does have in camera desqueeze and crop marks on the FX3/30 but it looks pretty badly implemented.
1.7x. ???
blazar is really about to eat everyone's lunch with sony autofocus anamorphic lenses
The taking lens' coatings ruin it for me:(
Shout out to Main Street science world 😂
Still waiting for someone to make an anamorphic lens with a rear element that de-squeezes the image, so you can get the anamorphic look in-camera with no editing
Er then it wouldn't be anamorphic. It would just result in a spherical final image with no squeeze. Part of the anamorphic character, some would say the main part, is that you have a wider horizontal field of view with the DOF of the vertical. No one would ever make what you describe, even if it was possible.
@@geoffreybassett6741 according to a previous video on a rear anamorphic adapter, rear elements do not change the character of the lens or shape of the bokeh. If this is true for applying a squeeze, then perhaps it could be true for applying a de-squeeze?
if it was more flexible I'd definitely think about it...
Neat but E-mount isn't it
WRONG
E-Mount is on some of the most used and requests cameras right now, so….E-Mount is it.
I wish it was 1.5x
It is if you're close enough 😂
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! CLEVER!
wow, how limiting
I'm not sure I see the attraction of shooting anamorphic. I'm not knocking it either by the way, you do you. Apart from the lens flare thing, I don't see it adding anything cinematic to a shot. There are many classic and iconic movies that do not have a single lens flare in them. In fact the lens flare thing was a relatively recent trend. I do hear many say 'oh there's just something about it' but they can never say what. In my opinion it's all about selling expensive equipment to people that think this latest gadget will be the one piece of kit that will turn their filmmaking around and at last make them the cinematographer they always knew they were deep down. And then when it doesn't they're back on Amazon looking for the next.
Focus breathing on adapter not cool 😂
Nah I wouldn’t use it…… they can do better for 1K
Crap, I rather get a full lens kit from Blazar