Does The Price Of The MICROPHONE Matter?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
- In this episode the guys discuss if the price of the microphone in your studio and production setup matter. Is $1000 microphones the most competitive price range? Do $400 microphones provide the most bang for your buck? How is temu selling microphones for sometimes $20 dollars? Are they any good? Lets find out
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Buy that $1000 preamp and a $300 mic fellas as you getting started out. Not the other way around. If you are a budget artist, prioritize a professional preamp and good interface first. I have the U87 & Wa8000 (two great mics), and I mix records self-recorded by other artists on $200-$300 mics that sounds great and compatible enough for HQ records. Hope it helps.
Wa87 and UAD solo good upgrade from Focusrite and Nt1a?
@@yggbeats5759 I'm not familiar with some of that gear, but I upgraded to a UAD Volt interface from an old Focusrite recently and love the switch! But if your Focusrite is newer, I still suggest getting a separate analog preamp and bypass the preamp of your interface to get the best bang for buck. Lastly, if you are impressed by the Wa87 reviews I say go for it. Although, there are lots of good mic options in the ~600 price range.
What would be a good preamp you would recommend?
Which one is better golden age ga8000 or steam audio sa800g?
@@manykzdj792Stam Audio is the king of clone audio gear
I have been so happy with the Townsend L22. The capsules on their own sound great, and the sphere software is super versatile. We keep using it over and over and just hasn't been failing.
Upgrading from an AT2020 to a TLM 103 was like AT2020 is 1080p & TLM is 4K. I do run it thru a DBX286 preamp/vocal ch. to a focus rite 2i2 so You can do with that what you will!🙏
Did you have the same preamp set up for the at2020?
would you mind sharing your dbx286 settings?
I don’t understand what you’re saying. Are you saying that you upgraded to the 103 and it sounds way better?
I swear I can't keep living without trying out those Temu mics...I ain't lying Lol
While you’re at it, get some gold Temu teeth 😂
get you a rode nt1 my boi temu for the miscellaneous items lol
@@BLACKFACEPLUS My mic locker is good. I only got the Temu mic to see if it even sounds like a usable mic for a beginner lol. It doesn't sound HORRIBLE but I wouldn't use it on any project I'm working on.
And by the way...the thing works on 48 volt phantom power even though it comes with the xlr to 1/4 inch.
Here’s a good tier list of my own favorites.
Ultimate tier: ELA M 251 (10,995)
Pro Tier: Manley Silver (4,999)
Mid tier: Lauten Audio Atlantis (1758)
Lower: Rode K2 (699)
This right here!!!!! You know what you’re talking about!! Tell tale sign was the Manley silver at the pro tier!
Ultimate tier: U47
Pro tier: Chandler Redd
Mid tier: Lauten Atlantis
Lower: Austrian Audio OC818
@@PaulIsbell apples to oranges
@@LashonEvans216 I just wanted to provide my favorites lol 😂
@@PaulIsbell 47 used to be the mic I always wanted. But i ended up getting a great deal on a 67 so I bought that one. I own the Silver but would love to grab a Redd microphone. Ironically i own the preamp though 😂
This is what I'm missing from a lot of the podcast and reviews - You guys are very emotional about audio gear, you talk about those things like I do! Great stuff!
Wow this should have a part 2 addressing other brands and also comparing tubes, fets, dynamics etc. great episode!!!
Wow, this episode is pure gold! 🌟 As a producer myself, I can't thank you enough for sharing such valuable content. It's like finding a treasure chest full of knowledge and inspiration. Your tips and insights are priceless and will undoubtedly help all producers elevate their craft. Keep up the fantastic work and continue blessing us with your golden content! 💯✨
Thanks so much for these videos! This channel has helped me so much along these past 4 years when it comes to producing and editing my own vocals. I always listened to the living weirdo covers since 2013. I currently am working on something really special to be released in October! A debut EP and it would not be possible without his vocal chains and mastering chains. A true Godsend
Your Right. The Sony Is a Bright Mic. .Busta Rhymes said Dr Dre wanted him to use Sony c800g but he preferred the u87 .
It took me 10 years but in 2021 I finally bought U87 , this microphone makes life good. It always sounds 🔥
Ive literally learned how to mix because of this podcast and this channel and I want you guys to know how much you are doing for young people like myself who are aspiring to become something better than their environment. I will become something special and when I do, I will be nothing but appreciate towards you for everything you've done for me. 🤫20 Dollar Microphones
Thank you so much @3lijahh
@@Davoiseee yo don't fall for it that's a scam bot, not actually HMD
@@vael_ yea they got me too they gonna offer you mad gear and tell you to pay for shipping
I got the wa 8000 modded by Erickson labs and its crazy good. People sleep on warm audio but in the 500-1200 range they're hard to beat and punch way above their weight class even without the mods. Another dope company is Lewitt. When people catch on to what they're doing with blending fet with tube I think they could be the new standard in the future.
Wa sound good tho stocked but spend that 7k range you are getting a mic well balanced mic low mid top end can’t get that with a 500$ mic
@@TrapBoiFuse561 definitely bro You got to pay to play. But that WA modded is something serious though. I'd say If Warm audio would have done that in the factory they could probably charge about $2,500 to 3k
@@apextraxx2903 my boy got one it’s fie sound like a hood ass big c800g
Warm Audio 47jr! Was a nice "My first official mic"! I Still have it until this day and get away with some really great mixes with, but my U87 Ai is the go to every time. Haven't used the Lauten LA-320 Tube in a while. So now I have to do a shootout again.
Which one is better golden age ga8000 or steam audio sa800g?
These episodes bring me joy
Rode NTK is the BEST mic I’ve ever heard raw vocals through! Minimal EQ/compression needed. BETTER than the U87 in my opinion.
heck naw lol
Happy to hear y’all’s take on this! I’ve been workin with a TLM 103 for a while now and it’s great but always saw the u87 as kinda the industry standard but wondered if there really was a big difference! Thanks for answering! Y’all are dope!
Fl/ pro-tools gang
I appreciate u guys for the continuous grind making our days more interesting
I have a audio technica at2020 $100 and for now it is good for me!! It worked like a charm! I’ve also been mixing for about 13 years so I can make it sound great and currently use a iPad for my recording and it is pretty fire for my set up!
Yeah, no.
Seen some of these podcast clips on IG, but finally watched some stuff on TH-cam. Super insightful and I feel like I learn something from each one!
i wish yall had a channel for just the podcast and they were longer or more frequent
sm7b is the workhorse of all studios.
Re20 is better
@@noelgallard1128Ls -208
Great budget mics in a mix are the LCT 440 and AT 4033a. Both are in the 300-400 range. I would say that's the least to sound semi pro. However, Doja recorded vocals with a LCT 240 which is a 100 dollar microphone for a song called, "Won't bite" and the vocals sound fine. It's more about finding a quality company for the money. Although you can't go wrong without that Neumann TLM 103. 😂
I was hoping that a Lewitt microphone would come up in the conversation because Lewitt is really turning the game upside down in my opinion. Despite everything, another great podcast as always, greetings to all audio nerds out there!
I’ve „built“ my own. Basically the apex 460 with a c12 style capsule and a 12ay7 tube. Cost me around 400€ and sounds like minimum double the price, if not triple.
The voice matching of the mic is more important plus the audio chain you got going on, trust im a mic dude to the core!
When you’re starting and learning how gears work or learning how plugins work, no not at all. Long term when your ears develop listening to certain sound and quality and characteristics then yes to a lot of people.
My mic order from what I own,
1. WA-8000 -love the clarity/detail
2. AT4050- Neutral sound
3.TLM-102- Leaves more to be desired
4. Rode NT1- Sounds compressed.
another banger ...I feel LJ hit it spot on wit the c800 ..dope ass mic no doubt one of the best and all major studios will most likely have one .butttt I totally feel him wen he said sometimes its tooo bright..I do like the brightness for some vocals..wen im cutting sometimes I love it and others (more often than not) its just to bright for no reason ..if u like that tight crisp vocal then yea its gonna sound smooth and prolly work for most but thats imo...but yo wen devvon said "xlr to aux is crazy" tht shit got me cuz im from ny an I said tha same mf shit lmao
In that 1500 range, Telefunken tf39 🔥 🔥 🔥 and i still like to use my Blue Baby bottle for fast tempo music
The price only slightly matters. Ive used so many mics and there are some cheaper companies the absolutely blow expensive companies out the water. Warm Audio is one of those.
The Korby Kat white was said to be very similar to the Sony c800.
I have the Slate Digital VMS ML-1... its dope!
I use the sky p120 and I love it. It’s a 90 dollar mic and does wonders
I got a u87 and it’s smooth and handles compression and eq well. Got a bae 1073 also freakin sauce
talk about reaper and daws like that the budget daws feel like reaper the poor man pro tools been using it 12 plus years tho love the pod
Lauten Audio is such a GOATED company. The Atlantis, Eden, and Clarion are the higher end mics and my personal favourite is the Eden. Hoping to get my hands on one soon :)
I want to work my way up to an Atlantis. I just joined the family with the LA-220 coming from Rode mics
@deriodagreat2714 How are you liking the LA-220? I use the LA-320 as my main mic and I love it, but I'm thinking of adding a 220 to the locker
@@MatthewJiggityJamJoseph As an overall better than the Rode, but in my current room it gets difficult to work cause it's not treated and I have this 6lack bite in my voice that I haven't figured out how to tame yet
@deriodagreat2714 yeeeeeah non- treated hurts. I'm in the same boat regarding my room, but I got an Aston Halo, and those things are magic. If you can't treat your space and it's in your budget, I recommend trying the waves Clarity Vox! It really helped me before I got the Halo
@@MatthewJiggityJamJoseph fasho, cause it sounds waaay better without the eyeball I have but then it picks the room up so I might look into that, never heard of anyone vouch for it other than in the waves Ads
I just ordered that "TLM103" off of Temu...I'll let yall know how it goes when it arrives at my studio.
How'd it go?
Lmaooo whenever LJ brings up the Yeti! I still not as funny as when he listed the Adams\ A series right in with the KRK Rockets hahaha
I currently use a Bluebird SL Large and it works great for my current projects
LJ editing his thoughts before they leave his body one of the funniest things about this pod lmao Devvon be stressed out cause of bro every episode hahaha
And go cop the Golden Hues pack from broski
Really wish LJ's and Courtney's vocals were as upfront as Devvon's. Great episode as always. My first mic was a 50eur Marantz Pro MPM-1000
Ain't nobody come to see you Otis 😂😂😂😂 JK
Shoutnout to the U87 lovers i have the all black one. It''s probably my favorite looking mic of all time.
Till you use a U67 re-issued
I have an MXL that i swear was modded. I Can get it to sound so good. Was like $180. I’ve recorded people with the Sony mic down to a dynamic mic. There’s a line you cross where it really falls into the hands of the engineer and the performance/mic placement. But terrible mics can definitely ruin everything tho
We need that review on the knockoff mics. A side by side comparison because $20 is crazy
I have tried all the expensive mics and I stand on the U87. Telefunken would be my next choice
I've learned a lot from you guys. Much respect for what are you doing.
Ultimate: Brauner VM1 (approx $7,000)
Pro: Chandler Limited REDD Microphone ($ 4,995)
Mid: UA Sphere DLX ($1,499)
Lower: Sony C-80 ($499)
the "price" no. the price of my telefunken tf51 was on a deal for 1100 and its a 2k mic. but you do get what you pay for when we start talking about super mics. i had(still have) a Rode K2 and had it for years. i learned how to actually record myself and find where my original tone was on that mic and how to capture that tone. i have natural bass in my voice without being too far in the baritone spectrum and when i started getting complimented on my tone in LA, i started to focus on it even more. the rode k2 did a decent job of that..... but it was still brittle and harsh at the end of the day and even when i upgraded my chain to a 737 into a distressor, its still a rode k2 and sounded like it. i do think that if you're serious about your music, you'd do well to upgrade your tools. eventually im getting a telefunken u47. loving my tf51 for now.
also, why is the c800 at the top end for yall? recency bias? the neumann u47 is a 20k microphone
I never realized how much of an audio nerd I am. Dope show🔥🔥🔥
💯 @auready
I can’t tell the difference between mics. Wish I was more of an audiophile, but I just want something with adequate pick up, appropriate for the vocals I’m tracking.
I mad y’all didn’t mention the Aston Origin Mic! I’ve been making magic with it for years now!
Is all easy answer is everything is free because it came from earth. There is no price if you grab it. So the question is, who is using the best components and ingredients? And who has honestly the best clarity and sonic pick up? Before amping.
AKG P120 is a solid budget mic with some acoustic treatment and proper gain staging can take you places
Had a Blue Blueberry then got a TLM 170 R and it cuts through mix so well and has smooth mids and highs Spend the money on expensive gear!
Finally a podcast for music production for rap and rnb. I will listen to this everyday don’t stop making these! Can I send you topics?
Another 🔥 episode fellas!!!
I went from a Rode NT1A to a Lewitt LCT640 TS ☺️
I bought a condenser mic for 50 bucks I'm 2005, still works good, I think it's a CAD GX2020.
yal should review the Aston Spirit Mic .
I'm with Ol' Boy - U87 hits better than the C800 to me too. I got mine for £1,700 basically brand new with the box and Shockmount Which was lucky. The Elam 251, C12, and the U47 all probably outshine the U87 to me but... those are some monopoly man money mics.
I kept most my mic collection
OG Neat King Bee
OG RØDE NT1-A
Lewitt 540 SubZero
Shure SM7B
Shure SM58
Electro voice re20
Electro voice ND757 a
Se Electronics V7
Shure Mv7
And more!
Man y’all the aventone cv joint go crazy the Eden go crazy telefunken TF51 TF39 and the 11 lewitt mics
you guys need to make Rosetta EQ for iOS as well!! theres a lot of ipad and nobile music producers coming up. make it $4.99
always watching from Malawi AFRICA
The Temu app says..."SHOP LIKE A BILLIONARE" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
U67, TLM 102,
Soyuz all day 💪🏻 Great podcast gents!!
Goyo is the real deal. I recorded with a condenser in the middle of an untreated room and it sounded fantastic lmfao easily better than Clarity
It's that time of the week🔥🔥🇿🇦
Curious if there will be an iPad version of the Rosetta EQ? I like using the iPad to produce and I think the HMD team will be in good company with people like Baby Audio, Decap, and FabFilter if you all develop for iOS.
#LogicLieutenant
This is fire! Always love this Podcast! Could you show of Magic Flow from Josh Gudwin?
man been going crazy with that Rosetta! also 20 dollar microphones🤫
My mic trajectory has gone:
MXL 770 -> AKG c214 -> TLM 102 lol. Can safely say… the preamp had made the bigger difference 😭.
Which preamp did you use?
Good episode! Top tier ✨
best pod on TH-cam
I use the Manley ref C and Sony c800g.... I like it more than Neumann u87........I have a tube tech but im not a fan of it because I like to hear what the compressor is doing
Baddies = Neumann Valve 47 , C12 and Sony C800G
Budget = Rode NTK, K2 and SE Gemini II/V
whjat about the aston series of mics ?
I think y’all forgot about Warm audio too!! I used the u67 replica 😍😍😍😍😍 fantastic mic however I just got back off tour in Australia i got a chance to use to Warm Audio WA -8000 the Warm replica for the Sony C 800 and that sumabit is CRIPSYYYYYYYYYYYYY try them out if you can you’ll be impressed
@DM-ON-TELE-GRAM-Help_MeDevvon My IG is @ItsKwestion
I got the wa8000 modded by Erickson labs and it's top notch. It was already good without the upgrade but lacked body. Also have Lewitt LCT 840 and it's beautiful and silky sounding great for singers.
My $100 Mxl mic is GOLD
You can find the blueberry’s and c414s for like 500 to 700 on reverb if y’all are looking for some fire mics
No love for AT's high end? The AT 5047 can go toe-to-toe with the U87 ALL DAY! The AT2020 was there for everybody at the bottom, but their $300-5k stuff is also incredible. (I still love my AT 4033 as well!)
You don’t have to go all the way to the Audio Technica 50 series to hang with a u87. It’s a Video on TH-cam right now comparing a U87 to an At4050 and if you didn’t look, you’d be hard-pressed to tell the difference between the two or you may prefer the Audio Technica At4050.
@@Breeze_b_hard Big facts homie!
I WATCH EVERY LAST ONE OF THESE PODCAST EPISODES AND I LEARN SO MUCH, MY ONLY THING IS I DONT LIKE HOW YALL INTERRUPT EACHOTHER THEN LOSE TRAIN OF THOUGHT AND GO TO THE NEXT TOPIC, YALL BE ABOUT TO SAY SOMTHIN GOOD THEN SOMEONE CUTS IT OFF...OTHER THAN THAT ONE OF THE MOST EDUCATIONAL PODCAST OUT
Bruh, Devon did you say Big Cap Rescue?!? 😂😂💀
Ypooo this podcast is a blessing
OHMA mics are great for the 700 price point and those body styles are wild
Look into the Stam Audio SA87T. It’s a U87/c800g love child.
U67 should be mentioned with 251 and the C800g. U67 is getting picked before everything
Rodney Jerkins use to use that Blue Kiwi mic a lot.
Fav podcast easily
Oh yeah I need that eq bro please 😂🔥🔥🔥
What y’all think about the avantone cv12?
You really drop this the day after I buy a Rode NT-1 smh I hope I don’t gotta buy another mic 😂7️⃣💯
DeReverb by Waves is everything. Definitely recommend
It’s the same as any gate
man its crazy, i go on a short hiatus and come back on fire everytime
this was so nerdy, i loved every second of it!
Can you guys do this concept but with Audio Interface’s
I love my brauner phantom
Lawson L47 is killin every mic to me