+dereksmallsuk id blame capitalism. If there weren't any capitalism you could trace every fucking greedy mofo hoarding vast amount of stolen wealth from a ledger. I'm telling the truth, and truth be told for an archorman this guy make own a 3 -6 mil mansion and part of the american dream is kissassing the pigs
lowlypeasant I don't think he meant "intrinsically paternalistic". as a pater, I have to think of paternalism in a positive light. I think he meant "intrinsically patriarchal" which is very different and not often well-intentioned. But his just shows that Cooper really was just being glib. He didn't even stop to analyze if Matt was using the right terms. He was using big words so he must be intelligent.
@@johnnysalter7072 your comment is completely biased to fit your leftist propaganda. You DO realize there are minorities, and immigrants who support Trump, right? So are they considered pussies as well? Your comment is wrong because it's a blanket statement that generalizes ALL Trump supporters into a single group of people. This demonstrates you have no consideration for other's opinions, and are a bigot simply because orange man bad syndrome.
+Adam Unruh Lots of envy going on here. It certainly isn't smart of YOU to think that's the only qualifier. Try vocabulary correctly used, critical thinking skills, and a Harvard University education.
For all the people who can't seem to understand it, Basing teachers salaries on student performance is a horrible Idea for the following reasons. 1. It depends on the Student's performance just as much as the teacher's. If a student doesn't show up for class, if their parents don't give them time to study, or make them go to school daily, if they just don't care about education and pay no attention, the teacher's hands are completely tied. You can't MAKE kids learn. You can only inspire them to learn. 2. Parents are also a key element in education. You can't learn and retain absolutely everything during school hours. Students have to study, they need structure, thy have to do homework. they need to eat properly and have a reasonable bed time. And only the worst of parents will argue against this. Inner city schools perform worse than highly funded suburban schools. Why is that? Could it have to do with parenting? Answer the following: If a great number of their students barely show up for class, what can a teacher do? If their students do not want to do their homework and their parents don't help their kids or give them the tools necessary to understand the need to do it, What can the teacher do? If the students have parents who let them stay up until 2am playing GTAV, and come to school like zombies who want to sleep through class and have no homework or studying done, What can a teacher do? The answer to all of these is "nothing." There is nothing the teacher can do. They can tell a counselor or send kids to the principal, but the system is set up to accomplish nothing when it comes to holding parents and students responsible for their own inaction in regards to their education. A teacher can't even do anything if a student becomes combative and wants to throw things or yell at/threaten the teacher who is just trying to do their job, because they don't want to be told to be quiet or to do an assignment. (and yes, this happens all the time.) The teachers who go to these schools and teach, have the same education as the teachers in the suburbs, yet they face a greater challenge on a daily basis. and honestly, the teachers (like my wife) who do it in nicer schools also face these challenges. (even if it's on a smaller scale.) Should they be paid less than the already substandard salary they are offered because the challenges of teaching in an inner city school are greater? because they work hard? because they care enough to work in a place that would challenge the greatest of teachers? If a first year teacher only makes around $28K a year after going to school for 4 years and building up tens of thousands of dollars of debt in some cases, what inspiration would they have to work in these schools if they are threatened to make even less for reasons they have very little control over? It's an idiotic notion. you want to threaten the pay of someone in education? Then go to the United States Department of Education and tell them you want a higher standard of education. Ask them why parents aren't held responsible for leading their own children down a road of failure that teachers have no control over. But stop blaming the ONE group of people who make it their responsibility to educate our youth.
I agree that we shouldn't pay teachers based on the performance of their students , but we should judge teachers based on their own performance and we should be able to fire the poor performing teachers . After all , our goal is to better educate students . Are you an advocate for inner city cops getting equal or greater salaries than that of suburban cops ?
Teachers (at least here in Ohio) are judged based on their performance. They are evaluated yearly. after a teachers contract runs out (the end of they year.) the district can replace a teacher. Police salary is dictated by the City's income. Bigger cities tend to pay more. Small towns, less. A cop or teacher always have the ability to apply wherever they like. the pay scales are public record. they choose if they want to apply someplace that pays more or less.
Your response is...... far too reasonable for TH-cam. You are right of course, but convincing the unthinking idiots who oppose this view is, as you know, tough.
"You think job insecurity is what makes me work hard?" *Cuts before the reporter gets to respond. Anderson Cooper's response: "See right there she just messed up, she was messing with Matt damon, not a good idea." What the fuck?! Matt owned her because he made a point? Anderson Cooper's journalistic commentary is at the same level of insight as a youtube reactor.
jk I never said the Damons got owned, or that I'm not on their side of the argument. Don't misread things. I just don't agree with the way the piece was conducted.
jk I got that, it was you who misread things when you assumed I agreed with you about Damons getting owned. I don't know even know how you got that from this vid since they didn't even show the reporters side of the argument
halafradrimx Reason.tv is affiliated with Reason Magazine, which is indeed a very pro-libertarian affiliation. Hayek, Friedman, Szasz: ever heard of them?
MIles Ignotus So what? What they just said isn't libertarian at all. Shoving words into someone else's mouth isn't libertarian. Also, Matt Damon isn't completely right. Some jobs are indeed sought after due to offering a "comfort zone". It is very common on teaching careers.
halafradrimx Of course they were trying to make an anti-union statement, completely oblivious to the fact that actors join the Screen Actors Guild. That union oversees working conditions, contracts, pensions and health plans.
It's embarrassing that Anderson Cooper is even a "journalist". What he just did is what a 17 year old girl does who has a crush on a boy. He actually paused the video and said, "Snap." I mean, what kind of accomplished journalist behaves this way? As for Cooper swooning over the "intrinsically paternalistic view" phrase, it shows how Cooper didn't take the time to actually think about what that statement even means, but just likes how it sounded. Why is suggesting that many people work hard and try to better themselves because of job insecurity "paternalistic". IT MAKES NO SENSE. (By the way, I don't at all agree with this young lady, she is irrational and obtuse, but Damon's statement on working hard due to job insecurity being paternalistic is completely bizarre.) And is Cooper able to parse this statement and unpackage it and take it for what it is: word salad? Nope. He is gushing over those two words and giggling. The whole thing is embarassing.
By long hours they are referring to the often 10 plus hour days at the school and then often a few hours at home. Plus believe it or not many teachers work additional jobs during the summer.
Take for example my biology "teacher" His idea of "teaching" was assigning a student to go to the front of the class and read from the teachers book. He would spend the our looking up football BS since he was one of the coaches.
+Marni MacGillivray What teachers stay at the school for 10 plus hours? I am an educated person myself and live across the street from an "Elite" elementary school. There isn't a car parked in the lot for more than 8 hours a day and I don't see teachers carrying a whole stack of papers to their cars to take home to mark. Come on! Plus what kind of job hires someone for just the summer? No "actual" profession can afford to pay someone who only works in the summer the same wage that teachers make.
eh, just because you do not like the guy does not mean you can't like "his" movies. Good Will Hunting was a pretty good movie. It is just personal opinion what movie is good or not, but it just seems like you are saying that because of your dislike of Damon
Timo Canto Who are you talking to? I was making a joke in reference to what the interviewer said. Sheesh. Has the internet killed the humor brain cells of this planet?
+MisterFuturtastic what part? i don't remember the movie very well.. he made fun of a lot of people in that movie.. plz remind me i like to see karma being a bitch to someone whose not me
***** The guy wasn't just plagiarizing.. he was trying to make himself seem smart by spewing information just because it sounded smart. Which is what Matt Damon does here.
I actually think this is an interesting topic, and one that Matt's wrong about. People with tenure sometimes stop caring about their current career. There do need to be standards. At the same time I do think we need to be cautious about getting rid of good teachers, and make sure we're working on making the career rewarding enough we continue to get new, good teachers.
Brian Nelson Various studies have shown that job security increases productivity. Obviously there are some who abuse their positions but the fast majority do not, many teachers with short term contracts will struggle to feel invested in either their subject or their studnets and become quickly disenchanted with what is really a pretty hard, unrewarding profession.
curleyjoe666 That doesn't at all mean that job security makes everyone a good teacher. I've had good and bad teachers. I've worked with good and bad colleagues. Once you go down a career path, at a certain point, it's really hard to switch. That really sucks but it sucks for the kids as well to be stuck with a substandard teacher. I am just saying there need to be standards. I don't have all the answers, but to assume that every teacher is good and doing well and doing a responsible job with our children is a bit naive.
***** The USA would never let its children not be educated. The issue is about what to do with the teachers to get better results. Each side has their own arguments and if you understood both sides, you wouldn't be claiming hypocrisy. Understand both sides before you come to your conclusion. Then you can disagree, but hypocrisy isn't subjective and I'm pretty sure there's no hypocrisy in the reporters position.
So you are saying you are confident that there are studies that show TEACHERS are more productive AFTER they have earned their tenure? Any study on jobs in general is worthless, ever heard of "Publish or Perish"? If you are a university professor that study is bassackwards for you.
@@nialljamesbuckley The fact that you throw a blanket statement like that without actually elaborating anything says more about what you would consider not nonsense. Paternalism is action that limits a person's or group's liberty or autonomy and is intended to promote their own good. And that fits exactly into what Matt's pointing about incentives to work rather than a lack of autonomy.
I like Matt Damon's response. All 10 seconds of it. The 3 minutes commentary around it is utter garbage. "don't mess with Matt Damon because Matt Damon is a smart Matt Damon I like Matt Damon you got smacked by Matt Damon I can call him Matt"
+Kyle Arnold Actually having a large vocabulary is a sign of intelligence, (20-30% higher IQ on average compared to those without large vocabularies). However I do agree that simply knowing 2 or 3 large words isn't proof of a large vocabulary.
+Kyle Arnold Having a large vocabulary and knowing how and when to use "large words" is actually a pretty damn good indicator of intelligence. Also in evidence is Matt Damon's critical thinking ability.
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Matt Damon is great, but this guy interrupting every second to say "this is why you don't mess with Matt Damon" is the reason this video has 3,000 dislikes.
***** People work for incentives, teachers have none, charter schools in harlem have been kicking ass because the teachers have accountability, its human nature.
Typical conservative..doesn't know what they are talking about..just make rude comments and talk trash. Teachers don't get three months off douche bag..you must of not finished high school.
Matt Damon and his mother are bleeding liberal assholes. They never like to be challenged. My father was a teacher, trust me, he has told me many stories of people he taught with that coasted through, good hours, two months off, no passion and really didn't give a crap. That 10% is probably a low ball number.
+Tony Marinelli no, you're wrong. obviously yelling at someone loudly and making appeal to emotion arguments over logic means you always win. you win big time if you sprinkle in meaningless phrases like "intrinsically paternalistic view"
+b teachers all public employees they are supposed to be sad sack pieces of shit who can't grow past adolescents or find a job in the private sector. now private school teachers are different. they don't point a gun at you to pay their salary.
As a teacher, I just discovered a new reason to respect and admire Matt Damon. Who is actually stupid enough to link teachers' salaries with student performance, especially in today's world where teachers have absolutely NO authority, and NO say in the curriculum? There are plenty of ways to improve the American education system, and one of them is to throw out the dumb "No child left behind" policy.
+Fra Daw what makes you think the powers that be, who created that system, want "educated" children or even skilled teachers? what the owners of this country want are a bunch of dumbed down authoritarian worshipping morons and that's exactly what they're getting. i've taught in american schools and fucking bailed out...shit cirriculums, shit administrators, shit parents and shit students. i teach in asia now, make twice as much and actually have hard working focused students. and parents actually give a shit how their kids perform. stop wasting your time in a system literally designed to fail.
+Generalissimo X You are so right. It is shocking how ignorant children, adolescents and adults are in this country today. A 35 year old man was asked on the street what country did we (USA) gain independence from? He couldn't answer the question. A Long Island adolescent was asked what was the ocean on the eastern coast of the USA, and she replied, "The Pacific?" The same poor thing when asked what the war between the north and south was called, answered, "World War Two?"
Kevin Russell I totally agree with you. There are a number of reasons for the lousy performance by students in American schools today, starting with this dumb policy of "No child left behind." It sure sounds great, doesn't it. But the truth is that not all children are created equal, and some actually need to repeat some grades in order to gain the knowledge required. "No child left behind" has resulted in thousands of students being socially promoted without learning even half the material. The problems for that individual then get snowballed until he/she can no longer handle the school environment at all, and they either drop out or develop behaviour issues.
Who u ask? JEB BUSH! Slimy greasy fkr that Pos glad he dropped out the race we dodged another bush bullet thank God! But the Clinton bullet is still in the air and now it's down to trump and her so go trump we can't survive Hilary for sure and we might maybe survive with trump but I like the 50/50 chances a lot better than the were 100% screwed as we would be if Hilary wins and if she does its 100% fraudulent too! They didn't let us have Ron Paul which who could have fixed this mess by now and been up for a 2nd term we'd want him to stay in office till he died lol but see now they have gone n done it when they didn't let us have Paul trump was forced to run and on not much more than "we're gonna make America great again and build a wall and make jobs and we're going to be great" ok how? "We will cuz I'm a million billeeeon billionaire I'm rich I make deals" meanwhile all JEB could say is "here's the deal..." We're so doomed
+John Doe (Faraday Defcon) Clearly you have never had the responsibility of educating hundreds of children. Yes, I said "hundreds" because the average homeroom teacher educates 600 to 1000 students during his/her entire career. That's a lot of teaching, and a lot of responsibility. How many children have YOU educated in your lifetime, Mr. Defcon, or whatever your name is? You toss around a lot of numbers that I challenge you to verify. I'd like to know the state where the average teacher is earning $90 000 annually. I'd move there tomorrow! And a full pension after 2 years! Where do I sign?
OMG Matts Logic : A gravedigger really wants to dig graves why else would he take long hours and shitty sallary... A porn star really wants to do porn why else would she take long hours and shitty sallary... A shopkeeper really wants to keep a shop why else would he take long hours and shitty sallary... Matt is actually smarter than he sounds...
+Bartek Bierbasz I'm under the impression that porn stars and shopkeepers are paid pretty well for the work they do. (Porn stars seemingly make more money, on average, and work shorter hours - it's a good profession if you're okay with being filmed having sex with strangers.) A gravedigger, less so, but a teacher is a profession that requires an education and serious involvement, while a gravedigger is an entry-level position with no education requirement. And there's no reason to assume a gravedigger works longer hours than anyone else. The logic does not apply to all professions. Please do not attempt to discredit Matt, just because you realise the simple fact that his logic is not all-encompassing.
AusSP I do not try to discredit him, he did it himself. What he said about teachers could be said about almost every job title there is. What he said is a 10 year olds level of logic... I am just talking about this one sentence I do not know him and I do realize all of us sometimes say something stupid. BTW Teachers in USA earn on average 45k a year... considering they work 9 months a year I still believe it is a lot. But it doesn't matter what I believe cause it should be a matter of supply and demand.
+Bartek Bierbasz Apples to oranges you dolt. People work shitty jobs when they have to provide, but people don't choose teaching as some random shitty job. They do it because they want to teach, at least at first.
Shit hours? 7:30am-3:30pm 185 days a year. A 'regular worker' works 50 weeks of 5 days a year. 250 days with about 10 holidays and the same sick days as teachers. And 40k a year is not a 'shit salary'. That's $3300 a month. Just drive by any schools teacher parking lot. Not very many 10 year old clunkers sitting in there. Like the rest of America.
You guys should probably teach before you say it's a "part time job." I do it everyday, and it's hard work. I definitely don't like the part where I struggle financially every month. After taxes, union fees, insurance, and retirement I bring in a whopping $24k, and that's higher than most. That's more like $2000 a month. God, if I could have $3,300 a month, I'd be sitting real pretty. Meanwhile, I'm 24 years old and I'm trying to make my life in a completely new city on "maybe I'll have enough to buy two boxes of cereal this time..." I don't know one teacher who only works 7:30a to 3:30p. I have homework every night that needs to be graded and lessons that need to be planned. And you know what, even if I work my ass off for those 8 hours plus the extra, you and the parents of my students probably still won't be satisfied with me when realistically, it's the kids and the parents who should be taking most of the blame. Not to mention, that to keep my credentials, I have to go back to school and continue to learn. And maybe if I pay for that, out of my own pocket, I could get a pay raise.
***** What motivates an individual to criticize people who are trying to make their own way in the world? Money isn't everything. I didn't become a teacher to earn a ton of money. I got into teaching because I love it. You know nothing about my perspective or about me, so your judgment make no difference in my life. I've read your TH-cam comments and more than anything, I pity you. You seem to be on a mission to take everyone down a notch, and it's probably because you have low self-worth. So rather than criticize others, you should try and treat others in the same way that you would want them to treat you. That's the way I try to live. Maybe then you can make some friends and you'll start to gain some confidence! Good luck!
Everyone can easily see for themselves if your 'shift times' are true by looking at their local school teacher parking lot. At 7:00am and at 4:45pm. The lots should be full according to you . Not true in my locale...anyone else?
Your mom must have taught at a school with great kids and great parents. Even bad teachers look good in those situations. Try teaching at a school where you fight every day to try and get kids away from gangs, where every student eats a free lunch, parents don't show up for most functions, and the school has to have extra security measures to keep students safe. It's not easy. My school makes you look like an ignoramus. Teachers stay until 6 or 7 every night, principals visit your room on a daily basis, data is collected daily and actually used, not to mention the rigorous evaluation system that the district has adopted for all teachers to meet. You may think you know, and maybe you do know about some schools, but don't act like you know every school. People tell me how it used to be here, and it sounds awful, but the changes that have gone into effect are visibly changing the community for the better. I get paid very little for the effort I put in, but I don't need the money. If I can change my student's lives, that's good enough for me.
Who the fuck told you 40 grand?!?! My Mom makes 25 grand and has worked at this school more than 15 years. She used to have a husband, but now that she's divorced, she can barely support herself. If her children were not adults, she would without a doubt need another job or a different job.
1:03 "It isn't as *explodey* as the Bourne Identity" I think that deserves 'gayest quote of the year' award, right along side the words "nifty" and "thuper".
American libertarians: it's all about individual liberty, as long as you're my kind of individual, and some individuals deserve more liberty than others.
AshCampbell Challenger SRT In other words, literally against everything they rhetorically support. A different kind of fascism, cloaked in different buzzwords.
So Matt Damon is some kind of genius because he threw together some big words that aren't even that uncommon? Please.... I think this video is just showing the hardon that Cooper has for Damon. Also.. CNN should be the last to make fun of any sort of journalism.
Matt Damon doesn't have to be a 'genius' in order to demonstrate that Michelle Fields is either an idiot or politically motivated ideologue. I'm not a genius and it wasn't difficult for me to understand.
Do you realy care if Cooper think Damon is a genius or are you actualy angry because a disgusting unempathic right wing reporter made an ass of her self.
ensteffo I'm not actually angry at all.. just pointing out the flaws in this video. I think Damon is full of himself.. but that is nothing new... I just found it Ironic that CNN would comment on any news agency being shit.. since no one takes them seriously anymore.
ensteffo She is a libertarian, correct? Also just because you watched a cut up hit piece and fell for it doesn't mean that she is "a disgusting unempathic right wing reporter." Another thing unempathic(which isn't even a word by the way) would mean she isn't telepathic to other people's feelings. I think you were trying to say she has no empathy. Do you also agree with Matt Damon in regards to his dislike of President Obama?
Judging only by this video Matt Damon is intelligent, quick-witted (not that that matters much) and most importantly benevolent. Ignoring Cooper's comments, he made a lot more sense than she did. But yes CNN makes lots of broadcasting blunders; if one does exist, I don't know of a single consistently unbiased and reliable news outlet, sadly.
A lot of teachers have a way of making students hate learning. Why shouldn't they be fired? Clearly Damon doesn't care about the children. Actually, nothings clear, because he used big words that together didn't actually make a coherent argument.
Perhaps if the woman had said as much instead of trying to scam a soundbyte out of him he would have given her a "coherent argument" in return. As it stands he's on the right track and put this nutbag in her place.
Always someone else's fault. It's not my fault I'm bad at sports. It's that I had a bad gym teacher. My PE teacher made me bad at sports. My music teacher made me bad musician. If only I had a good music teacher, I'd be a professional singer. But unfortunately, my bad music teacher and my bad gym teacher ruined my interest in sports and music. Give me a break.
It's not a straw man if you can't knock it down. One of the problem in education today is the fallacy that aptitude or interest is universal. In prior eras, students with low aptitudes just dropped out or were put on technical tracks. Nowadays, they stay in and struggle. So half the class is below grade level and half is at or above. That is tragic, but not a teacher's fault. That is the fault of government and culture and no teacher can individually compensate for that. Some teachers make some students hate learning. Of course. But you make it sound like a recipe. Maybe what made you hate learning made somebody else love it. Some people like a challenge. Some people don't. What you think is good teaching, I might think is terrible. And what was unclear or incoherent about the argument. It made perfect sense to me. If you disagree with it, then that's your opinion and you can try to persuade me otherwise. But don't use some silly charge backed up by nothing but 'that's what I feel' to make your point. I thought my teachers were lame when I was 16 too. Then I grew up and stopped blaming other people for my own mistakes. My PE teacher didn't make me hate PE. I already hated it. And I happened to like music a lot. I just said that to make a point. I didn't like math when I was a teenager. Later in college I enjoyed it. No teacher made me hate it or like it. It's just the way I was at that time in my life. The things I liked about teachers were usually just things I already liked. That could just be me. But I don't think so.
Gabriel Ross I do not need to "knock down" a strawman. It is an argument you have applied to me that YOU have thoroughly knocked down. You win because you defeated an argument I never made. What I'm actually saying is that there are some teachers who make learning incredibly unbearable for students. Children associate some pretty negative things to learning and just one reason is some bad apple teachers. I never said teachers cause every problem in learning. You not liking PE for whatever non-teacher-related reason doesn't mean that no student ever was discouraged by a teacher's style. You know what I'm saying is not profound. You even said you agree. You very much disagree with the reporter in this video, and so do I (I disagree with both, and Anderson's childishness too). But you think I agree with her and that's why you are so upset right now, enough to strawman my very simple point. "So you take this MBA style thinking, right? It's the problem with ed policy right now--is this intrinsically paternalistic view of problems that are much more complex than that." This is gibberish.
Especially when he is fawning and swooning over Matt using two big words together. BTW those two words do not even make sense together if you mean them as intended individually. Intrinsically: to come naturally, from within. Paternal: appropriate to a father.
I'm Conservative/Libertarian, but I know for a fact that Damon was in the right here. Both my parents were teachers and they worked their butts off, putting in tons of extra, unpaid hours to try and make their students more knowledgeable, but towards the end of their careers, it all became about teaching for the tests. They clearly needed more tests to define their salaries.... Also, as it becomes cooler to do nothing but mouth off and cause trouble in schools, you really can't blame the teachers for anything when the kids won't get off their phones, listen for half a second or sit in their seats...
People like to believe their kids are so perfect and that all the problems must be the teacher's fault, but when you see how many kids act and then see how parents communicate with teachers, you'll understand why America is falling behind in education. It's society...
so with combining holding the teachers responsible Why can't we also hold students responsible. If they don't have the will to learn what the parents to make them learn we always need ditch diggers cabbage pickers and so forth. And all those jobs are needed and no one performing them should be looked down upon for doing hard work. But they hold everyone else back including the teachers. No Lib that I've heard crying about the teachers has supported cracking down the students or acknowledging there are poor teachers that are protected by the union.So if they are crying about people criticizing been one-sided they are just as one-sided.
I had an african american geometry teacher in high school... she taught one day a week, we watched a movie once a week, talked about personal lives, goofed off/did nothing while she was on the computer.... All I'll say is there's no way she was still there for her "work ethic". Something about the need for diversity? After several years, she was fired after continually not giving finals or anything else and telling her kids to skip class and they'd get 100's. Yes, there are definitely bad teachers, but testing is a VERY inadequate way of telling whether a teacher is bad or not. Last random note: She was observed while I was in this "teacher's" class once. She told us to do the exact same hands on (super easy) project she had us do a few days before, so that everyone knew how to do it and she'd look good. After about 2 minutes, I just took out my project from the day before, walked up to her and said "finished" to both the surprise of the "teacher" and the observer. This "teacher" simply answered the unasked questions of the observer by reminding him that I was the son of the math teacher across the hall....... Lots of paper footballs were made in this class...
Because Matt Damon was rude, he supposedly proved his point? I still didn't understand what his point was. The interviewer was asking him whether his job performance affects his ability to keep working and get paid well. OF COURSE IT DOES. But he didn't even address that point at all. HE AVOIDED IT. So he gets kudos for avoiding the question??? NO HE DIDN'T "TAKE HER OUT!"
Tons of really good actors go without recognition. Performance, like in any job, does not ensure success or further job opportunities. This was essentially his point. As regards the remark by Mrs. Damon here, the validity and reliability of statistics like "10% of teachers are bad" needs to be met with some skepticism, IMO. How does one measure the "quality" of teaching exactly? In any case, are there not confounding variables which could contribute to the skewing of such results; like the "quality" of *parenting*, for instance - or the lamentable paucity of any incentive (the latter being a result of the fact that the importance of many such professions is not ultimately reflected in their wages)? Giving them the benefit of the doubt, though, even if it were true that such a high number of teachers taught so poorly as to be labelled "bad", does that then mean the "remaining" *90%* deserve no such suitable fruits for their labours? Also ... Matt Damon ... "rude"?! I think defending such an inherently defensible profession from the protestations of Randian ignoramuses (a redundant moniker, IMO) in the way he just did is admirable.
He answered it saying he disagrees that he doesn't work hard because he gets paid well just like a teacher works hard to get paid shit he does it because he likes it. It's like a question on a social test that asks a question you disagree with . How do you support convervatives(republicans) by being more liberal(democratic) . It just doesn't work like that you deserve to be told off.
labidomosquito No, mine is explained by my genetic makeup and the environment where I grew up, which in my case is a family of professionals where discourse is encouraged and dogma is frowned upon. Good luck dude.
Jonathan Kolbinsky youtube is infested with young white boys who find dank memes and 9/11 hysterical. of course any liberal themed video is always accompanied with a lot of dislikes
After six months of tutoring there is no improvement and a kid is still failing math, but because the tutor loves teaching--and I don't want to be labeled "intrinsically paternalistic" by someone who makes believe for a living--instead of firing the tutor I'm going to allow the kid to fail . . . Should we apply this same sense of fairness to the medical profession?
+Matthew Wells You'd actually be amazed how much this happens in the education system today. Teachers are being praised for letting students squeak out barley over acceptable levels of comprehension and understanding. You're not far from the truth.
+Matthew Wells In the medical profession you're dealing with a narrow focused issue, such as a piece of tissue or a clearly defined illness/syndrome. Even so, in the psychology and psychiatry medical fields. where you're dealing with human minds success rates vary wildly and there is no such thing as a silver bullet, nor can good results be expected just because you are bringing in a rock-star psychiatrist. Similar to classroom dynamics, except nowhere near as complex. Simpleton free-market arguments are a tinny piece of the puzzle when it comes to social sciences.
chamade166 I'm unclear how your proving my analogy is less than perfect has anything to do with the price of tea in China. My last medical "focused issue" required two doctors, two referrals, three specialists, one x-ray a CT scan and MRI over eight weeks. In the end, the most experienced, expensive and accomplished Doctor diagnosed the issue. The rock star got successful results after everyone else failed. As a result, his value goes up because of his success rate -- not JUST because he loved his job and tried his level best.
The funny thing is the reporter asked a good question while Matt's response was more or less: 'because teachers love their job and don't get paid a lot they should keep those jobs no matter how bad they are at it'. But some dumb people will get impressed with his vocabulary instead of what he was saying and think he somehow won the argument based on his fallacious logic. Pathetic.
Actually, you're the idiot. His argument was against the libertarian idea that people are only motivated by their own rational, self-interest. That's what he was saying. Marx called it commodification, look it up. In short: the swallowing of social life by the market. Suddenly people choose their job because it gives them tenure? That's what the woman suggested, and that's what Mr. Damon's reply was: people (and teachers) don't choose their jobs because their financial opportunities, they teach because its their passion.
EddyBearr Totally agree, but then, these are libertarians we are talking about, you can't really expect most of them to express any kind of coherent thought with regard to monetary/economic issues.
Well actually their economic thought is pretty sound if you accept their view of human nature. But since all other social sciences including psychology know that humans tend to act on different grounds than what libertarians think; thats where their theory breaks down, for me at least.
Well yeah, thats true. But you have to admit that there is some evidence to suggest that people act solely in self-interest. So lets be a little modest and acknowledge that we're also not hundred percent sure.
Pretty much any profession has a % of people that just aren't a good fit but in many professions people either quit for something that is a better fit or, they get fired because they aren't performing well. The problem with teaching is many teachers can't do anything else & make the same money. Not to mention the time off & benefits packages. Those that are not a good fit for the job will stay because they can't get a different job that has equal pay & benefits. When you make it virtually impossible to fire a bad teacher that just compounds the problem & you end up with more & more bad teachers. That isn't fair to the students that have little or no control over who their teacher is & it's not fair to the truly good, dedicated teachers out there. There is nothing wrong with paying teachers well, that attracts good people but when the unions & laws make it hard to get rid of the bad ones it becomes a problem. Teaching is one of the few jobs where someone that is really bad can dig their heels in & keep doing a bad job for years, entire careers even, and not get fired.
+shananagans5 Typical U.S. right-wing "libertarian" garbage. Ron Paul will never be president (and thank god), and the majority of the population rejects almost all domestic right-wing U.S. "libertarian" policy. Of by the way, everywhere else in the world, the word "libertarian" means anti-Leninist socialist/anarchist, NOT hyper-capitalist. Go worship the fart air of some billionaire as you right-wing U.S. "libertarians" tend to do.
The U.S. version of "libertarianism" is one version of the right-wing (albeit different from the neo-conservative right-wing, but still right-wing non the less). In Europe, the word "libertarian" basically means anarchist (meaning anti-capitalist). That is one version of the left-wing.
+shananagans5 Teachers pay is in line with their qualifications, in fact you would expect to get more if you had similar level of education in any job in the private sector. The time off argument is total BS, yes the teachers have school holidays but most teachers put in significant amount of overtime that they are not paid for, ie planning lessons and marking homework. Those who criticize teachers should try teaching, I bet they would not last one lesson before either losing their cool or leaving in tears.
+Cody M Incorrect. In Europe and many parts of Latin America, the word "libertarian" means anti-capitalist anarchist. Joseph Déjacque was the first person to coin the term "libertarian" for politics, and it was used to describe the anti-capitalist and anti-authoritarian left (Anarchism). Only in the United States does the word "libertarian" take it's opposite meaning (that being hyper-capitalist).
Matt Damon spoke out against teacher's salaries being based on student's performance on standardized tests and then goes on to state that "a teacher wants to teach" seemingly to draw a nexus between the teacher's motivation for teaching and salaries. So, according to Matt Damon, teacher's salaries should NOT be based on measurable and articulable student progress, but on the internal motivations of the teacher instead? WOW, what a stretch.
yes. and it makes me choke from Anderson's "smug emissions." it is a great vid. I could have done without the commentary that gave a hundred trolls the "watch AC suck Matt's cock!" you did it to yourself Anderson. it was a good video though. Damon grew up next door to Howard Zinn. He's not an idiot. Team America is an awesome movie though.
Watch the video again, but skip the gushing narration and listen to just Damon. He literally said nothing. He did not address the question which was: why would you advocate to guarantee teacher salaries when actor salaries are not guaranteed? If Damon's cause is moral and true, why does it not apply to him as well?
@@ekpurdy He did answer the question. The answer was that competitive teaching will not breed better teachers, nor compensate good teachers to the level at which we think they should. The entire entertainment industry is a luxury similar to sports, and can be measured/compensated by competition because of the fact that it's not necessary. Any form of entertainment is excess and not actually needed, therefore it can be self-regulated through competitive means. Teaching doesn't fit that same category at all, and the problems that come with it can't be solved by simply applying competitive competition to teachers. All it would do is breed rubber-stampers in the industry that look successful on paper, but in fact are not doing their actual job.
@@adamcloud9289 False. Matt did not say anything similar to your comment. His words were "intrinsically patriotical" and "teachers love to teach." Neither comment addresses competition. You alone cited competition. And despite all the factual data to prove that competition enhances educational outcomes, you claim incorrectly that competition is not beneficial.
Okay CNN, why don't you let people conduct their own analysis of the interview without shoving your opinion down peoples throats, perhaps you would have some better ratings otherwise.
Teachers can teach thier asses off but if all of the kids don't respond well that's not the teachers fault. Now you have to start looking at the kids, their parents, their home life, their surroundings, and any other intangibles that affect the individual children. Their teachers, not miracle workers. Some kids need more than what a teacher can give, so their salaries shouldn't be based solely on test results of students.
I don't think you guys are wrong, but it's kind of hard to just shift all the burden onto the parents and leave the system as it is. Kid goes away all day and the parent gets shit on if the kid isn't functioning well in the school? Then it's the parents responsibility to make the kid function within this school... It doesn't work like that. The school has a large bit of responsibility for the outcome in this situation. The school being shit could easily be the cause of problems or an amplifier. Fix what you can, I don't know how you can fix parents but there are many out there with ideas on fixing education. I don't think I comment here if I didn't read a chunk of that timothy obrien thread above, but now I'm invested sharing my brilliant :) opinion. Anyway the whole situation is too complicated for the bumper stickers. Just because you guys can make libertarians look stupid doesn't mean your right. So libertarian guy made a fool, check. Problem resolved by shifting burden onto others... no. If you want to shift some of the burden, shift some of the resources too. Parents for the most part are just kinda stuck with what they've got. Anyway opinions and assholes, right? Started both of those with "I don't think" so that one is a gimme. If insulting me please do better, make me proud.
yxrf1xg0 People no longer get to be home with their children. Both parents work. You have to. Then there are the people who can't parent. I hate shitty parents. The majority of the responsibility should rest with the schools since the kids are there like any job, but how can you hold the school responsible when you wont allow them to do whats necessary? I wouldn't take my car to the mechanic and demand he fixes it, but he better not touch it or i'll sue his ass and completely ruin his life by making it so he wont get hired anywhere else. We need to get some real teachers in these schools as well as be more involved with what the kids are doing. Pay these teachers, man! Who wouldn't just give up when they can't even afford their homes, cars and bills. Fuck the system and fuck the parent that refuse to change to make a better system.
What's necessary? I'm not quite getting your mechanic analogy, I wouldn't want the school touching my kid. Is that seen as necessary by you? Possibly just unclear wording there. As far as frustration with the system.. Teachers aren't unique with those frustrations. Those parents that you seem to dislike are likely in the same boat as you. They probably have a very similar line of thinking that ends with fuck those teachers. How would you define shitty parents? I think you might lose some of those constraints on whatever it is you consider necessary to the job if there was a greater element of choice in the matter from the parent's perspective. There would be a form of consent to a teaching method and both sides might work together much better this way. You might be right about the pay, I don't know. I haven't sifted through the us and them to make much sense of it. If the system is so bad though not putting more money into the same scheme doesn't seem terribly irrational. Might work to put it this way, unions have a way of acting that makes sense toward negotiation with an employer. With the schools, it doesn't seem like the interest of the parent is represented. It's like a negotiation with one side absent. Can't solve problems that way. Parents are diverse, but if they were offered options of schools to choose from the parents you need to work with would likely sort themselves into groups that would be easier to work with. Parents with similar concerns should choose similar options to meet those concerns and dealing with a group of like minded people should make solving problems much easier. Maybe approval of the system goes up and those votes that impact teacher pay return more favorable results. Maybe teacher pay becomes a third rail for everybody. Hiring good teachers and paying them more isn't likely to fix the system alone. There are good teachers, they just have to work within so many constraints. It's like taking a steak grinding it up and mixing it with pigs feet. Finally what I post here might be wrong in some way or many ways, but dammit it didn't hinge upon the morality of government : ) Got to give me that one point if nothing else.
yxrf1xg0 as a semi recent graduate of a socially diverse school, it really is home life. if you just go to school everyday and sit down and look at the teacher its pretty much a guarantee to graduate. So many of the kids that didn't graduate just didn't have any drive, and didn't show up to school. the school system didn't raise them like that, it was on the other end, whether it be the parents or other bad influences.
Yeah, you only know bad teachers (which do exist) if you think that, most teachers work outside the school many hours that go unpaid. Many teachers work during summer setting up for the next year and making sure it is all correct. Teachers (like many jobs really) work a lot more than an outsider thinks they do.
+peddle No no, he's got a point. I recall getting bulletins on the highschool website back in the day with updates about the curriculum that teachers were working on over the summer. They do a lot of their class planning during the off-season, because they aren't busy grading papers and such during that time. That said, I'm not implying every teacher does that. But there are very dedicated teachers, who have been doing their job for decades, and don't care about the pay. It's a passion, not a job for the good ones.
Most of the curriculum is handed down by glorious government. This is how government creates conformity. Unfortunately good teachers get caught up in this corruption.
Peddle, you're an idiot--8 hours a day! When do you think they make up their tests and quizzes, grade them, mark student papers, much less design lesson plans required by administrators, etc. Teaching is a 24/7 job. They deserve the 3 months off.
I surmise she wasn't there to debate. Certainly there are responses to his comments. However she is a reporter. She wants to know his comments and report them, not debate him. This is unlike liberal reporters who believe all interviews with conservatives must turn into debates.
+Mansion Video Well this was part of a channel called CNN. On CNN they report news. This is only a clip from the entire news cast. So Anderson Cooper couldn't let video play more than 5 seconds because he didn't make it. Does that make sense?
+Mr. Splashman And in the interest of time would you not want to cut the BS out of the video ? CNN is far from a news channel, it's more of a bleeding heart rumor mill. In the future if you leave a condescending comment try to know at least a little bit about the topic.
So teachers don't care about their salaries? They only teach because they want to teach? That's funny, because MILLIONS of teachers go on strike in this country because they demand HIGHER PAY. If Matt Damon thinks that money does not incentivize him to act, maybe he should act in movies for free without being compensated and we'll see how long he will last. How do you like them apples?
samsonpker I think you missed the part where she said it was an INCENTIVE. Key word. Money provides an incentive to do your job. Money provides an incentive to be at work on time. Money provides an incentive to keep your job and not screaming at customers (because in doing so would result in the loss of your job, aka money). Would teachers around the country wake up 5 days a week to teach a bunch of kids if they weren't being compensated? I didn't think so.
+Hacking Penny Stocks Maybe its because they can't live like human beings with their shitty pay and they want a decent pay which they deserve as working human beings.
samsonpker I didn't miss your point. Your point was absolutely flawed. Most viewers would argue Damon was pretty serious about his position. YOU, on the other hand, can't seem to grasp Damon's perspective, especially in regards to this "MBA-style" thinking.
+LSDeeper "yes millions of teachers to go on strike because of their pay. Not for the fact they don't make a certain salary, but that most school counties have cut teachers salaries." What difference does it make if their salary was cut or that it was not a certain value? This illustrates my point even further, MONEY CREATES INCENTIVES. If the teachers didn't care about money ie salary being cut, then they wouldn't go on strike. "Teaching and acting don't correlate as professions so you can't contrast the two in that regard." Actually teaching and acting are professions, and they are professions they will compensate you with money if and when you decide to teach or act. Again, if Damon doesn't think acting does not incentive people to act, stop asking for x million dollars per movie and just do it for free. Do you honestly think he, or any other actor in Hollywood, would continue to act?
She didn't even "mess with" Matt Damon though. She asked a legitimate question that actually has statistical evidence to back it up and he chose to get triggered and go down this pseudo-intellectual tangent instead of remain calm and answer respectfully. Honestly I'm sick of people giving celebrities a free pass when they straight up act like condescending jerks. He might be a great actor, but he's not an expert on everything, and frankly in this clip he's being downright egotistical and disproportionately defensive to what was a relatively mild interview question.
I agree that was a douchey response, he’s getting paid just fine for acting of all things too. The fame and power of both politicians and actors disgust me when they’re real assholes.
The question was condescending to begin with, not to mention a hopeful "gotcha" moment and nothing more. The mere concept that competition breeds incentive and is the reason for hard work is faulty beyond measure, and cannot be applied to something as complex as teaching/learning issues. Matt Damon understood this. The reporter did not.
Bottom line: in at 8AM, out by 4PM, every holiday off, 2-3 weeks off at Christmas, a week at spring break, three months in the summer, and paid handsomely (start $45k--some at nearly $100k, plus bennies) with a four-year college education and masters degree from taxpayer-paid night classes, where even the lousiest teachers are supported by their union to keep their jobs, one-size-fits-all lesson plan used year-after-year, grading on autopilot. It's a cush gig! Hour for hour, making more than most readers of this thread. Teachers. It's good to be one.
Why do you care so much about what people get paid, and whether or not they should be fired? You seem like a wannabe authoritarian that nobody takes seriously.
Yeah, roger that. It's just that termination as the only solution is so Donald Trump fucktarded. That's all. We need ideas and nation builders, not bitter little destroyers.
coolkayaker1 I am going to assume you don't actually know many (if any) teachers if you think their work day starts at 8AM and ends at 4PM. I know many, and they all work far longer hours than that.
Teachers want to teach? Fine, let them teach. No one is saying they can't. They can teach all they want, but parents ought to have the power to decide which schools and teachers they pay for. Also, parents shouldn't have to pay for a failing, public school system they're not using on top of paying for a private school. Don't even get me started on Common Core. Matt stands beside all these union teachers (most probably aren't teachers but professional protesters) who are afraid of greater parental choice drying up their jobs. Where do you think his kids go to school? You can damn sure bet it isn't a public school. He wouldn't be caught dead sending his kids to a public school. Sadly, seems he's so deluded the hypocrisy is probably lost on him.
So, the logic is that if there is something wrong with the education system, the answer is to... move? Public education is failing regardless of the district. Some only more so than others. But oh no, lets not try to replace a broken system! No the problem is with us. We're just living in the wrong places folks. Right?
VirtualSuperSoldier So you are saying hey if the system is broken because the system IS broken. Dont fix it just build a new one which 50% of the people cant afford so they will be left without any chance? Bravo. You sir planned well for your country. Maybe you should tell your moneyhungry politicans to stop throwing your money in the mouth of big companies and maybe start to invest it in the only thing that will save this country from being eaten by a hungry fast growing dragon. Your Kids and their education. If the public schools would get only the money the agencies of your country use to spy on you citizens no matter what youve done for the country. You probably would have one of the best school systems in the western hemisphere. But u cant build a working car if you are only given wood sticks. Dont judge the school system. Judge the ones who messed it up. (Democrats and republicans both did a great job there!)
ElcurionExodus We have done nothing but throw money at our educational system for the last 30-40 years! We are spending many many times more now than what we were in the 70s and 80s. When asked, the answer is always the same... We need more money! More money! More money! Talks about a hungry maw. We have reached the point in the life cycle of the system where throwing more money at it will not gain us much of anything. Yet so much and so many are entrenched, there is really isn't much else we can do to it but throw money. Money we don't have. YES, I think we need a clean slate. Mind you, I'm not necessarily talking about a system free of the public domain. I'm up for whatever works. I can also separate how we pay from what we're paying for. What we are paying for now is NOT working. I think we can all agree on that. In that spirit, privatizing should be considered an option. Consider that a more privatized system would likely result in subdivided school districts creating a number of smaller schools with smaller class sizes. Show me anyone who doesn't want that. Including teachers. Speaking of teachers, qualified teachers with good records would likely find expanded opportunities by way of greater competition. They could be commanding higher salaries while teaching smaller more focused classes. As far as 50% not being able to afford it, As I said, I'm not opposed to a public option if it works.Charter schools, many of whom receive gov funding are doing great things in the inner city these days. That is when they aren't under attack from democrats and teachers unions.
Thrillcekr comparing private schools to private prisons is a bit apples to oranges but here we go: Private schools are usually paid for by the parents/family of the children attending, and donations. Also, some states have programs where tax payers can use a bit of their state taxes to fund scholarship programs that might go to private schools (might). There are also state funded voucher programs that allow under privileged kids to go to private schools as well. Private prisons on the other hand, are paid for by contract between a private entity and a state or federal government. In other words, purely the allocation of tax dollars. It's not as if prisoners or their families are not being made to pay for their incarceration like parents pay for private school. The success of private prisons depends on who you talk to and their political leanings. I think in the long run however, when factoring in retirement and health benefits that the government will not be paying, it might be a better deal for the taxpayer. The private contractor is responsible for their own retirement and health benefit plans, after all. I suspect it's the same story for Your local DMV. No public employees = no retirement or healthcare for taxes to pay. States all across the country have identified privatization as a way of reducing costs and debt. That is a good thing. As far as judges taking payoffs, blame the payer or payee? No payoff can be made if the judge doesn't take it. But all that aside, we are talking about schools. I agree with your statement that the biggest problems can't be fixed by more money, i.e., throwing more money at our educational system won't solve anything. We need to consider a new system. I also agree that parents should get more involved in their children's education. Which is exactly what many of them are attempting to do by taking their kids out of public school and putting them in private or charter schools. They should have every right to do this as legal guardians of their child if they think it will help. There is surprising resistance to this. Sometimes even direct political attack. My last point is this: why do so many assume that if we don't pay for the education of our children through taxes, that they won't get educated or that it won't get paid for?
How does he propose we keep teachers accountable? Do we just let them do whatever because they have "passion" for teaching? I'm sorry but there are objectively bad teachers and good teachers. We need to get rid of the bad, if we want our children to learn anything.
Over here in the Netherlands (Europe) we keep making the exams for students easier every year. And then we say: "You see, the youth isn't becoming more stupid by the day !", in a self congratulatory manner ... Maybe there is too much knowledge available for people nowadays. It's hard to filter out the truth with so much bullshit floating around on the internet.
Still waiting to see the reporter get taken out. It was a sound example of how overpaid government workers will never strive to perform out of necessity such as those in private business. I think Matt did not answer at all in fact and simply over reacted to a question which he had no answer.
I don't think that the Libertarian interviewer could have picked a worse angle to go from. It's not that teachers will be incentivised to do better by having job insecurity, it's that having pay based on performance will enable us to marginalise and get rid of the truly horrendous teachers in the public schools that we are stuck with because of Teacher Unions and teacher-tenure. We need to be able to sack bad teachers, otherwise the students will suffer. I'm sorry, if a teacher has consistent A-grade classes across the board on standardised tests, then they are a better teacher that someone whose classes have been failing over the same period, and they deserve to be paid more. I know about the argument that it's bad parenting causing poor child performance, but why then are the education establishment opposed to every attempt to test this theory? A voucher system would put those same failing students, with the same parents at home, in new schools of the parents choosing. If it is their home life causing their failure, then the bad results would follow them to the new school
Jason James No, teachers are not worried that vouchers will work. We're concerned that the same fools promoting the business model transposed to the educational system will be the ones deciding who's a good teacher and who is not despite not knowing a damn thing about education.
***** maybe it is. i always paid more attention in classes taught by teachers that actually knew their stuff. i had a science teacher in 7th grade that as a person i hated because he was a stuck up jerk but he really knew his stuff. i paid attention in class even if i looked like i was off in space somewhere i did well in all the tests he gave but never passed in a single homework assignment. because i didn't like the guy it was all part of my plan to screw with him. yea i was kind of a jerky kid too so i guess that made us even. some of my college professors were so bad i didn't even want to go to class sometimes but i worked out the material on my own and still did well. i think it's worse to have bad teachers in college though. public education is free but if i'm paying somebody $200 to teach me math for 16 weeks they better know math better than me.
wtf is this nonsense commentary from Anderson Cooper? They should've just played the clip instead of cutting it up and adding stupid comments. Cringe-worthy tbh.
It is fuckin' nonsense to say all teachers should be paid well just as stupid as it is to say that they shouldn't. What you need is a system in which you filter out the dipshits who are taking up the positions and appoint real proper teachers and pay them well.
A teacher doesn't go to school to become a teacher because they want the money. They go because they want to. Public school teachers might not enjoy it after dealing with shits, but you don't suddenly become a teacher out of no where
InternetScaresMe Agreed, I think most teachers are motivated by passion for the job/vocation. Ok the money is quite good, but the satisfaction comes from a student that has been inspired or 'turned around' by the teacher's skill in what they do. ps I am not a teacher.
Tim Berendsen its alien to me, if you're living $comfortably$ then how can you protest over something like wage disparity with true passion and devotion? it would mean something if she was living paycheck to paycheck and was trying to make a stand for higher wages but since she isn't how can i take her seriously? If anything Matt Damon can just pump money into the cause or match donations if he cares so much about it. I'm 100% sure he takes care of his mom so she is just $fine$ maybe it means more to stand for an ideology if you actually experience some hardship rather than just read about it or hear about it, crazy right?
His principals, like all socialists, is that money should be stolen from the many to give to the few. End all Corporate and Union welfare immediately. Education has been sabotaged by the same style of corruption found in the banking sector. ...welcome to socialism.
walperstyle yep, except I think whats worse about education than banking is that bankers at least some of the time however rare do have to answer to government inquiries, education just seems to go its route without any real reorganization or review. Almost like a mafia, people on school boards are grandfathered in and never have to make any change for the better, all the have to do is keep the status quo and are ousted is they speak up.
That is what socialism is. Get into power, create a two tier class society. Government and Citizens. There is way less opportunity because those decisions have been taken away from you. People that like socialism should talk to people in Europe that fled away from it. Buzzkill on opportunity. Also, Great documentary : "Chuck Norris vs Communism" (it has nothing to do with Chuck Norris)
"McDonald's workers really love to work at McDonald's! Why else would they take a shit hourly wage and terrible hours and do that job unless they REALLY loved to do it??"
Teachers are not actually under paid, that’s false . They get time off and paid all year they also get enormous protections and benefits from the government.
Between paternalism, maternalism, and individualism, Damon was taking the maternalistic stance while the reporter was taking the individualistic stance. Nobody was taking the paternalistic stance.
allixpeeke Yea. In this case, the individualistic stance that you're speaking of is one that has been formed over a long period of time that says that people are only motivated by money, not passion. This is derived from a paternalistic need to provide for a family, through job security and a drive to excel which means more money. Damon was clarifying that most in the teaching profession, and even his profession, do not live by that ideal. Passion for the profession is what drives them to not only work the profession, but to excel at it as well.
I think he makes good points, in general. Of course there is more to a career than just the paycheck. But the problem is that if teachers are not rewarded for performance, those who actually do love teaching and create positive results for their students will be held back by those who just want to get a steady paycheck with minimal effort. A great actor like Matt Damon would never achieve the prominence and freedom of acting choices that he has if actors were not rewarded for performance. Anderson's comments add absolutely nothing though. Really annoying how he kept interrupting the video.
My question is, what sort of moron gets into teaching for the money? It's not awesome, the only reason a sane person would get into teaching (in the US anyway) is for love of educating others.
***** Most people work only for the paycheck. What, no teachers are lazy, stupid, bad, mean, none of them have personal issues, none of them became teacher cause they couldnt find something else, none of them is stuck in a completely failed system etc. etc. Matt Damon is a good example of whats wrong with left wingers in the USA. They refuse to see the reality of things and if you tell them they'll pick a good example amongst the pile of crap and call you names cause you criticize the whole thing.
***** there are always some people within any profession who are lazy, underskilled, or jaded, etc. One of my teachers in high school was an alcoholic. Even if on some level a teacher feels that teaching is a noble activity, he can still end up doing a terrible job of it. Rewarding performance ensures that those who are truly capable of teaching have the opportunity to do so.
This clip isn't what you want it to be, or expect from the title. It's Anderson Cooper's version of a viral video rip off show. Because the best way to show respect for your audience, is by talking down to them by stopping the thing they are watching, to explain the thing they are watching.
The average salary for a teacher in the US is $60,477, and starting salaries are often below $40,000. “According to the National Education Association, the average salary for a teacher in the US was $60,477 a year for the 2017-18 school” they get summers off and ben if it’s and retirement.
C'mon Coop, don't be THAT guy; the guy that takes a decent clip that's about 30 seconds, cuts it into like 5 pieces, and uses it as some kind of springboard for your own mediocre dialogue. You're better than that, that's the sort of bullshit you'd expect from those REACT or filler channels that contribute NOTHING to the actual substance of the source material.
There is no argument. There could have been an argument but Elijah decided to call me a Jackass and attack me personally instead of my arguments. Now he thinks he's the winner because he thinks he tried to "save me' and failed in his virtuous attempt. lolatpendulum
Sounds like Coop has a crush
ya fan boy super hard
cooper is gay tho, so....
For a tv anchor he makes 6 figs.
+dereksmallsuk id blame capitalism. If there weren't any capitalism you could trace every fucking greedy mofo hoarding vast amount of stolen wealth from a ledger. I'm telling the truth, and truth be told for an archorman this guy make own a 3 -6 mil mansion and part of the american dream is kissassing the pigs
Who doesn't? :-P
When you just want to watch the clip but it gets interrupted every 5 seconds...
Typical CNN 😂
I don't know who that guy is but my GOD he is annoying.
My thoughts exactly!
She wasn't messing with him, just asked a reasonable question to which he gave a ridiculous answer. "Intrinsically paternalistic" my ballsack.
lowlypeasant I don't think he meant "intrinsically paternalistic". as a pater, I have to think of paternalism in a positive light. I think he meant "intrinsically patriarchal" which is very different and not often well-intentioned. But his just shows that Cooper really was just being glib. He didn't even stop to analyze if Matt was using the right terms. He was using big words so he must be intelligent.
EveryMan333
exactly.
EveryMan333 Thank u -- I agree, glad to see others see Anderson was easily misled or just being lazy in his listening. Annoying beyond belief.
lowlypeasant you just won the inter tubes, enjoy
+PaulTurbo lol yeah what? She was just asking a q!!
I think the most disliked person in this video was Anderson cooper
Rad Dog -- The Will Hunting wannabe is rather annoying too.
You are kidding? The newswomen and cameraman are dumb as an anvil.
That would be 80% of the republican mens.
Johnny Salter that was truly the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. I love stupid articles and I’m sure you’re full of them, send more.
@@johnnysalter7072 your comment is completely biased to fit your leftist propaganda. You DO realize there are minorities, and immigrants who support Trump, right? So are they considered pussies as well? Your comment is wrong because it's a blanket statement that generalizes ALL Trump supporters into a single group of people. This demonstrates you have no consideration for other's opinions, and are a bigot simply because orange man bad syndrome.
So, Matt Damon is smart because he said the words "intrinsically paternalistic?"
+Adam Unruh And now so are you because you have said it. Welcome to the Matt Damon club for hierarchy geniuses.
+Adam Unruh haha, LMAO. careful, big, bad and "smart" Matt Damon might SMACK YOU DOWN too...
:)
+Adam Unruh because he understood what he was saying and why, and used the words to support his argument.
+Adam Unruh And he probably memorized those from a script he once read.
+Adam Unruh Lots of envy going on here. It certainly isn't smart of YOU to think that's the only qualifier. Try vocabulary correctly used, critical thinking skills, and a Harvard University education.
For all the people who can't seem to understand it, Basing teachers salaries on student performance is a horrible Idea for the following reasons.
1. It depends on the Student's performance just as much as the teacher's. If a student doesn't show up for class, if their parents don't give them time to study, or make them go to school daily, if they just don't care about education and pay no attention, the teacher's hands are completely tied.
You can't MAKE kids learn. You can only inspire them to learn.
2. Parents are also a key element in education. You can't learn and retain absolutely everything during school hours. Students have to study, they need structure, thy have to do homework. they need to eat properly and have a reasonable bed time. And only the worst of parents will argue against this.
Inner city schools perform worse than highly funded suburban schools. Why is that? Could it have to do with parenting?
Answer the following:
If a great number of their students barely show up for class, what can a teacher do?
If their students do not want to do their homework and their parents don't help their kids or give them the tools necessary to understand the need to do it, What can the teacher do?
If the students have parents who let them stay up until 2am playing GTAV, and come to school like zombies who want to sleep through class and have no homework or studying done, What can a teacher do?
The answer to all of these is "nothing."
There is nothing the teacher can do. They can tell a counselor or send kids to the principal, but the system is set up to accomplish nothing when it comes to holding parents and students responsible for their own inaction in regards to their education.
A teacher can't even do anything if a student becomes combative and wants to throw things or yell at/threaten the teacher who is just trying to do their job, because they don't want to be told to be quiet or to do an assignment. (and yes, this happens all the time.)
The teachers who go to these schools and teach, have the same education as the teachers in the suburbs, yet they face a greater challenge on a daily basis. and honestly, the teachers (like my wife) who do it in nicer schools also face these challenges. (even if it's on a smaller scale.)
Should they be paid less than the already substandard salary they are offered because the challenges of teaching in an inner city school are greater? because they work hard? because they care enough to work in a place that would challenge the greatest of teachers?
If a first year teacher only makes around $28K a year after going to school for 4 years and building up tens of thousands of dollars of debt in some cases, what inspiration would they have to work in these schools if they are threatened to make even less for reasons they have very little control over? It's an idiotic notion.
you want to threaten the pay of someone in education? Then go to the United States Department of Education and tell them you want a higher standard of education. Ask them why parents aren't held responsible for leading their own children down a road of failure that teachers have no control over.
But stop blaming the ONE group of people who make it their responsibility to educate our youth.
I agree with all above.
What! Have you not seen Freedom Writers?
I agree that we shouldn't pay teachers based on the performance of their students , but we should judge teachers based on their own performance and we should be able to fire the poor performing teachers . After all , our goal is to better educate students . Are you an advocate for inner city cops getting equal or greater salaries than that of suburban cops ?
Teachers (at least here in Ohio) are judged based on their performance. They are evaluated yearly.
after a teachers contract runs out (the end of they year.) the district can replace a teacher.
Police salary is dictated by the City's income.
Bigger cities tend to pay more. Small towns, less. A cop or teacher always have the ability to apply wherever they like. the pay scales are public record. they choose if they want to apply someplace that pays more or less.
Your response is...... far too reasonable for TH-cam. You are right of course, but convincing the unthinking idiots who oppose this view is, as you know, tough.
"You think job insecurity is what makes me work hard?" *Cuts before the reporter gets to respond. Anderson Cooper's response: "See right there she just messed up, she was messing with Matt damon, not a good idea." What the fuck?! Matt owned her because he made a point? Anderson Cooper's journalistic commentary is at the same level of insight as a youtube reactor.
right... and he made not 1 point. "Damons get owned and Cooper works to get his pooper plugged". Much better title.
jk I never said the Damons got owned, or that I'm not on their side of the argument. Don't misread things. I just don't agree with the way the piece was conducted.
Guess who's watching him?.. TH-cam level minded sheeple.
jk I got that, it was you who misread things when you assumed I agreed with you about Damons getting owned. I don't know even know how you got that from this vid since they didn't even show the reporters side of the argument
Making a point is how civilized people own each other, yes.
Jesus christ nothing is worst when you want to watch a clip and someone is talking you through what is probably a 30 second interview.
I felt that too. I wanted to strangle the guy.
MATT DAMONNN
Thomas Milliken worst? skipped grammar school, eh? 😂
Thomas Milliken yes I have seen the interview without the idiot commentary and it was much better.
Yes that.
Can someone cut out that disturbing white haired guy in between normal humans talking?
Haha, I was thinking the same thing !
haha
I was kind of thinking the same thing witch was, dude just shut up and play the clip. I think he like to hear himself talk.
I was kind of thinking the same thing witch was, dude just shut up and play the clip. I think he like to hear himself talk.
Chris Chu shh he is former CIA dude...
Those reporters aren't libertarian at all.
Steven Dixon I don't have to.
No mainstream media is libertarian at all on our age.
halafradrimx Reason.tv is affiliated with Reason Magazine, which is indeed a very pro-libertarian affiliation. Hayek, Friedman, Szasz: ever heard of them?
MIles Ignotus So what?
What they just said isn't libertarian at all. Shoving words into someone else's mouth isn't libertarian.
Also, Matt Damon isn't completely right. Some jobs are indeed sought after due to offering a "comfort zone".
It is very common on teaching careers.
halafradrimx Of course they were trying to make an anti-union statement, completely oblivious to the fact that actors join the Screen Actors Guild. That union oversees working conditions, contracts, pensions and health plans.
MIles Ignotus Sure, a multi-million paid worker needs all the protection a union can muster in order to avoid being oppressed and exploited, right?
Gotta love misleading titles. This one should read
"Anderson Cooper Gushes Like a Schoolgirl Over Matt Damon and His Response to an Idiotic Reporter'
it's always nice when the top comment sums up what 10% of the people think.
where did you get that number???...sorry I had too =)
It's embarrassing that Anderson Cooper is even a "journalist". What he just did is what a 17 year old girl does who has a crush on a boy. He actually paused the video and said, "Snap." I mean, what kind of accomplished journalist behaves this way?
As for Cooper swooning over the "intrinsically paternalistic view" phrase, it shows how Cooper didn't take the time to actually think about what that statement even means, but just likes how it sounded. Why is suggesting that many people work hard and try to better themselves because of job insecurity "paternalistic". IT MAKES NO SENSE. (By the way, I don't at all agree with this young lady, she is irrational and obtuse, but Damon's statement on working hard due to job insecurity being paternalistic is completely bizarre.) And is Cooper able to parse this statement and unpackage it and take it for what it is: word salad? Nope. He is gushing over those two words and giggling. The whole thing is embarassing.
Comments like yours should be paid for
I think this video is more about Matt Damon than about Cooper. The fact that Cooper appears in this video is incidental.
He almost says "Absolutely" when the camera guy says "aren't 10% of teachers bad?"
Looking back to high school I would definitely say that 10 percent of teachers are apathetic and just do the job for the paycheck.
By long hours they are referring to the often 10 plus hour days at the school and then often a few hours at home.
Plus believe it or not many teachers work additional jobs during the summer.
Take for example my biology "teacher" His idea of "teaching" was assigning a student to go to the front of the class and read from the teachers book. He would spend the our looking up football BS since he was one of the coaches.
+Marni MacGillivray What teachers stay at the school for 10 plus hours? I am an educated person myself and live across the street from an "Elite" elementary school. There isn't a car parked in the lot for more than 8 hours a day and I don't see teachers carrying a whole stack of papers to their cars to take home to mark. Come on! Plus what kind of job hires someone for just the summer? No "actual" profession can afford to pay someone who only works in the summer the same wage that teachers make.
Given your comment, I'd say your education was a failure.
I agree. It took me extra time in college to catch up.
I believe saying only 10% of teachers are bad is being generous.
+Erik Denning it's the piss poor mechanic that blames his tools.
Yeah I would think you could say 98% of teachers suck and should be fired is a more realistic number.
Bullshit. Half the students are lazy, worthless, and completely self absorbed.
Joseph1NJ Why's that, d'ya think? Couldn't be that their indolence and self absorption hasn't been reined in by their sodding parents, could it?
tamsinthai Oh, absolutely.
How come 10% of Matt Damon's movies suck? **runs & hides from Matt Damon
I think there's a mistype here. You meant to type 100% and you forgot a zero.
eh, just because you do not like the guy does not mean you can't like "his" movies. Good Will Hunting was a pretty good movie. It is just personal opinion what movie is good or not, but it just seems like you are saying that because of your dislike of Damon
Timo Canto Who are you talking to? I was making a joke in reference to what the interviewer said. Sheesh. Has the internet killed the humor brain cells of this planet?
Baccus93
Well, I meant to direct it to 'hondagoal' , but I obviously made a mistake. We all make them
He was pretty good in team America
How do you like them apples?
Do you like apples?
Well I got her number, how do you like dem apples ?
Easy, Geunter...
+InitialDsTak like the juice? how ya like dem apples?...
that's punny
Oz Khan Lmao! Jay and Silent Bob Strike back! Yes!
Matt Damon just turned into the guy he made fun of in Goodwill Hunting.. and Anderson Cooper is too biased to see it. How do you like them apples..
Other than using other words to make himself sound cool i don't think so
+MisterFuturtastic what part? i don't remember the movie very well.. he made fun of a lot of people in that movie.. plz remind me i like to see karma being a bitch to someone whose not me
***** The guy wasn't just plagiarizing.. he was trying to make himself seem smart by spewing information just because it sounded smart. Which is what Matt Damon does here.
Oh okay! Now I got it
Kind of like Glenn Beck
meanwhile...Matt Damon's daughters enjoy a nice private school education
I actually think this is an interesting topic, and one that Matt's wrong about. People with tenure sometimes stop caring about their current career. There do need to be standards. At the same time I do think we need to be cautious about getting rid of good teachers, and make sure we're working on making the career rewarding enough we continue to get new, good teachers.
Brian Nelson Various studies have shown that job security increases productivity. Obviously there are some who abuse their positions but the fast majority do not, many teachers with short term contracts will struggle to feel invested in either their subject or their studnets and become quickly disenchanted with what is really a pretty hard, unrewarding profession.
curleyjoe666 That doesn't at all mean that job security makes everyone a good teacher. I've had good and bad teachers. I've worked with good and bad colleagues. Once you go down a career path, at a certain point, it's really hard to switch. That really sucks but it sucks for the kids as well to be stuck with a substandard teacher.
I am just saying there need to be standards. I don't have all the answers, but to assume that every teacher is good and doing well and doing a responsible job with our children is a bit naive.
***** The USA would never let its children not be educated. The issue is about what to do with the teachers to get better results. Each side has their own arguments and if you understood both sides, you wouldn't be claiming hypocrisy. Understand both sides before you come to your conclusion. Then you can disagree, but hypocrisy isn't subjective and I'm pretty sure there's no hypocrisy in the reporters position.
So you are saying you are confident that there are studies that show TEACHERS are more productive AFTER they have earned their tenure? Any study on jobs in general is worthless, ever heard of "Publish or Perish"? If you are a university professor that study is bassackwards for you.
i'll say it again...a "well reasoned highly intellectual smack-down" does not include the nonsense phrase "intrinsically paternalistic view"
and again.. you would be wrong.
@@adamcloud9289 how so?
@@nialljamesbuckley The fact that you throw a blanket statement like that without actually elaborating anything says more about what you would consider not nonsense. Paternalism is action that limits a person's or group's liberty or autonomy and is intended to promote their own good. And that fits exactly into what Matt's pointing about incentives to work rather than a lack of autonomy.
I like Matt Damon's response. All 10 seconds of it. The 3 minutes commentary around it is utter garbage. "don't mess with Matt Damon because Matt Damon is a smart Matt Damon I like Matt Damon you got smacked by Matt Damon I can call him Matt"
+DarKMaTTeR
You mean do not mess with the commie Damon.
bighands69 No, because I know what communism is and I don't just throw it around at things I didn't like or understand.
+DarKMaTTeR .....Are you Matt Damon?
+DarKMaTTeR Do you even realize that Matt Damon misused the word "paternalistic"? He doesn't know the meaning of the word! He's a jackass!
+DarKMaTTeR
Go one explain what communism is.
What the fuk does any of this video have to do with libertarianism? Getting real sick of these agenda based titles..
+mudturtlevision miss you brah
+mudturtlevision
the person interviewing matt damon is from a libertarian magazine's website.
+RottingintheMidwest It's still completely unrelated.
the people from the libertarian magazine have nothing to do with libertarianism? okay.
+RottingintheMidwest The strongest logic I've ever heard. lmao
drinking game, take a shot everytime this tool says matt damon
Paul Ferrell was slain by alcohol poisoning
If you;d just let Matt Damon talk, please. Get this reporter out of here. No one wants to listen to his analysis.
Oh, so this is what I've been missing by not watching CNN since 2004.
Please tell me he shaved his head again because there's going to be a Eurotrip sequel...Scotty doesn't know...
Matthew Osterloh This is 3-4 years old. It was back when he was filming Elysium.
Matthew Osterloh Eurotrip? Bro, it's all about Bourne!! ;)
My baby takes the morning train
Knowing large words doesn't make you intelligent
+Kyle Arnold Actually having a large vocabulary is a sign of intelligence, (20-30% higher IQ on average compared to those without large vocabularies). However I do agree that simply knowing 2 or 3 large words isn't proof of a large vocabulary.
+Kyle Arnold he went to harvard
+TheUnbeholden , Source?
+Kyle Arnold or calling camera men names
+Kyle Arnold Having a large vocabulary and knowing how and when to use "large words" is actually a pretty damn good indicator of intelligence. Also in evidence is Matt Damon's critical thinking ability.
jesus crist its Jason bourne
Henry Gummerus Matt dayminnnn... lmao
Henry Gummerus Bruh.. 😂😂😂
Come on people if you want to go home find jason bourne,,,,,,,,,,, over here ,,,,,,,,,,,ok what do you have,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,intrinsically paterna,,,,,,,,,,,,,listic,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yes,,,,,,,,it's him
Matt Damon is great, but this guy interrupting every second to say "this is why you don't mess with Matt Damon" is the reason this video has 3,000 dislikes.
Long hours? they get the summer off, what other profession do you take 3 months off?
***** Do the math , they work less than half the year if you include weekends, its a part time job.
***** People work for incentives, teachers have none, charter schools in harlem have been kicking ass because the teachers have accountability, its human nature.
Typical conservative..doesn't know what they are talking about..just make rude comments and talk trash. Teachers don't get three months off douche bag..you must of not finished high school.
+watsonvillian I'm not a conservative you idiotic tribal minded rube. Are you allergic to facts?
+watsonvillian Must not *have* finished high school
Matt Damon and his mother are bleeding liberal assholes. They never like to be challenged. My father was a teacher, trust me, he has told me many stories of people he taught with that coasted through, good hours, two months off, no passion and really didn't give a crap. That 10% is probably a low ball number.
+Tony Marinelli no, you're wrong. obviously yelling at someone loudly and making appeal to emotion arguments over logic means you always win. you win big time if you sprinkle in meaningless phrases like "intrinsically paternalistic view"
+b teachers all public employees they are supposed to be sad sack pieces of shit who can't grow past adolescents or find a job in the private sector. now private school teachers are different. they don't point a gun at you to pay their salary.
+The PaRoSpEcTaH i mean, maybe in the sense that any rational person who listens to this nonsense might start to lean right ;-p
Damon knows that job security in Hollywood means spouting liberal mantras at every opportunity.
As a teacher, I just discovered a new reason to respect and admire Matt Damon. Who is actually stupid enough to link teachers' salaries with student performance, especially in today's world where teachers have absolutely NO authority, and NO say in the curriculum? There are plenty of ways to improve the American education system, and one of them is to throw out the dumb "No child left behind" policy.
+Fra Daw what makes you think the powers that be, who created that system, want "educated" children or even skilled teachers? what the owners of this country want are a bunch of dumbed down authoritarian worshipping morons and that's exactly what they're getting. i've taught in american schools and fucking bailed out...shit cirriculums, shit administrators, shit parents and shit students. i teach in asia now, make twice as much and actually have hard working focused students. and parents actually give a shit how their kids perform. stop wasting your time in a system literally designed to fail.
+Generalissimo X You are so right. It is shocking how ignorant children, adolescents and adults are in this country today. A 35 year old man was asked on the street what country did we (USA) gain independence from? He couldn't answer the question. A Long Island adolescent was asked what was the ocean on the eastern coast of the USA, and she replied, "The Pacific?" The same poor thing when asked what the war between the north and south was called, answered, "World War Two?"
Kevin Russell I totally agree with you. There are a number of reasons for the lousy performance by students in American schools today, starting with this dumb policy of "No child left behind." It sure sounds great, doesn't it. But the truth is that not all children are created equal, and some actually need to repeat some grades in order to gain the knowledge required. "No child left behind" has resulted in thousands of students being socially promoted without learning even half the material. The problems for that individual then get snowballed until he/she can no longer handle the school environment at all, and they either drop out or develop behaviour issues.
Who u ask? JEB BUSH! Slimy greasy fkr that Pos glad he dropped out the race we dodged another bush bullet thank God! But the Clinton bullet is still in the air and now it's down to trump and her so go trump we can't survive Hilary for sure and we might maybe survive with trump but I like the 50/50 chances a lot better than the were 100% screwed as we would be if Hilary wins and if she does its 100% fraudulent too! They didn't let us have Ron Paul which who could have fixed this mess by now and been up for a 2nd term we'd want him to stay in office till he died lol but see now they have gone n done it when they didn't let us have Paul trump was forced to run and on not much more than "we're gonna make America great again and build a wall and make jobs and we're going to be great" ok how? "We will cuz I'm a million billeeeon billionaire I'm rich I make deals" meanwhile all JEB could say is "here's the deal..." We're so doomed
+John Doe (Faraday Defcon) Clearly you have never had the responsibility of educating hundreds of children. Yes, I said "hundreds" because the average homeroom teacher educates 600 to 1000 students during his/her entire career. That's a lot of teaching, and a lot of responsibility. How many children have YOU educated in your lifetime, Mr. Defcon, or whatever your name is? You toss around a lot of numbers that I challenge you to verify. I'd like to know the state where the average teacher is earning $90 000 annually. I'd move there tomorrow! And a full pension after 2 years! Where do I sign?
OMG Matts Logic :
A gravedigger really wants to dig graves why else would he take long hours and shitty sallary... A porn star really wants to do porn why else would she take long hours and shitty sallary... A shopkeeper really wants to keep a shop why else would he take long hours and shitty sallary...
Matt is actually smarter than he sounds...
+Bartek Bierbasz ur wrong about the porn , u have a very intrisinitcantly paternaternatlistic view on this current situation
+Bartek Bierbasz I'm under the impression that porn stars and shopkeepers are paid pretty well for the work they do. (Porn stars seemingly make more money, on average, and work shorter hours - it's a good profession if you're okay with being filmed having sex with strangers.) A gravedigger, less so, but a teacher is a profession that requires an education and serious involvement, while a gravedigger is an entry-level position with no education requirement. And there's no reason to assume a gravedigger works longer hours than anyone else.
The logic does not apply to all professions. Please do not attempt to discredit Matt, just because you realise the simple fact that his logic is not all-encompassing.
AusSP I do not try to discredit him, he did it himself. What he said about teachers could be said about almost every job title there is. What he said is a 10 year olds level of logic... I am just talking about this one sentence I do not know him and I do realize all of us sometimes say something stupid. BTW Teachers in USA earn on average 45k a year... considering they work 9 months a year I still believe it is a lot. But it doesn't matter what I believe cause it should be a matter of supply and demand.
+Bartek Bierbasz Apples to oranges you dolt. People work shitty jobs when they have to provide, but people don't choose teaching as some random shitty job. They do it because they want to teach, at least at first.
mudturtlevision So...? You stupid or what... whats your point...
Shit hours? 7:30am-3:30pm 185 days a year. A 'regular worker' works 50 weeks of 5 days a year. 250 days with about 10 holidays and the same sick days as teachers. And 40k a year is not a 'shit salary'. That's $3300 a month. Just drive by any schools teacher parking lot. Not very many 10 year old clunkers sitting in there. Like the rest of America.
You guys should probably teach before you say it's a "part time job."
I do it everyday, and it's hard work. I definitely don't like the part where I struggle financially every month. After taxes, union fees, insurance, and retirement I bring in a whopping $24k, and that's higher than most. That's more like $2000 a month. God, if I could have $3,300 a month, I'd be sitting real pretty. Meanwhile, I'm 24 years old and I'm trying to make my life in a completely new city on "maybe I'll have enough to buy two boxes of cereal this time..."
I don't know one teacher who only works 7:30a to 3:30p. I have homework every night that needs to be graded and lessons that need to be planned. And you know what, even if I work my ass off for those 8 hours plus the extra, you and the parents of my students probably still won't be satisfied with me when realistically, it's the kids and the parents who should be taking most of the blame.
Not to mention, that to keep my credentials, I have to go back to school and continue to learn. And maybe if I pay for that, out of my own pocket, I could get a pay raise.
***** What motivates an individual to criticize people who are trying to make their own way in the world? Money isn't everything. I didn't become a teacher to earn a ton of money. I got into teaching because I love it. You know nothing about my perspective or about me, so your judgment make no difference in my life.
I've read your TH-cam comments and more than anything, I pity you. You seem to be on a mission to take everyone down a notch, and it's probably because you have low self-worth. So rather than criticize others, you should try and treat others in the same way that you would want them to treat you. That's the way I try to live. Maybe then you can make some friends and you'll start to gain some confidence!
Good luck!
Everyone can easily see for themselves if your 'shift times' are true by looking at their local school teacher parking lot. At 7:00am and at 4:45pm. The lots should be full according to you . Not true in my locale...anyone else?
Your mom must have taught at a school with great kids and great parents. Even bad teachers look good in those situations. Try teaching at a school where you fight every day to try and get kids away from gangs, where every student eats a free lunch, parents don't show up for most functions, and the school has to have extra security measures to keep students safe. It's not easy. My school makes you look like an ignoramus. Teachers stay until 6 or 7 every night, principals visit your room on a daily basis, data is collected daily and actually used, not to mention the rigorous evaluation system that the district has adopted for all teachers to meet.
You may think you know, and maybe you do know about some schools, but don't act like you know every school. People tell me how it used to be here, and it sounds awful, but the changes that have gone into effect are visibly changing the community for the better. I get paid very little for the effort I put in, but I don't need the money. If I can change my student's lives, that's good enough for me.
Who the fuck told you 40 grand?!?! My Mom makes 25 grand and has worked at this school more than 15 years. She used to have a husband, but now that she's divorced, she can barely support herself. If her children were not adults, she would without a doubt need another job or a different job.
1:03 "It isn't as *explodey* as the Bourne Identity"
I think that deserves 'gayest quote of the year' award, right along side the words "nifty" and "thuper".
American libertarians: it's all about individual liberty, as long as you're my kind of individual, and some individuals deserve more liberty than others.
Nailed it.
Wrong. To the core, absolutely wrong.
Very much wrong.
AshCampbell Challenger SRT In other words, literally against everything they rhetorically support. A different kind of fascism, cloaked in different buzzwords.
Still very much wrong.
Unwatchable with Cooper's constant interruptions for commentary and celeb ass kissing. Video of this conversation is available elsewhere.
So Matt Damon is some kind of genius because he threw together some big words that aren't even that uncommon? Please.... I think this video is just showing the hardon that Cooper has for Damon. Also.. CNN should be the last to make fun of any sort of journalism.
Matt Damon doesn't have to be a 'genius' in order to demonstrate that Michelle Fields is either an idiot or politically motivated ideologue. I'm not a genius and it wasn't difficult for me to understand.
Do you realy care if Cooper think Damon is a genius or are you actualy angry because a disgusting unempathic right wing reporter made an ass of her self.
ensteffo
I'm not actually angry at all.. just pointing out the flaws in this video. I think Damon is full of himself.. but that is nothing new... I just found it Ironic that CNN would comment on any news agency being shit.. since no one takes them seriously anymore.
ensteffo She is a libertarian, correct? Also just because you watched a cut up hit piece and fell for it doesn't mean that she is "a disgusting unempathic right wing reporter." Another thing unempathic(which isn't even a word by the way) would mean she isn't telepathic to other people's feelings. I think you were trying to say she has no empathy. Do you also agree with Matt Damon in regards to his dislike of President Obama?
Judging only by this video Matt Damon is intelligent, quick-witted (not that that matters much) and most importantly benevolent. Ignoring Cooper's comments, he made a lot more sense than she did. But yes CNN makes lots of broadcasting blunders; if one does exist, I don't know of a single consistently unbiased and reliable news outlet, sadly.
This doesn’t age well when Matt’s kids go to a private school
A lot of teachers have a way of making students hate learning. Why shouldn't they be fired? Clearly Damon doesn't care about the children. Actually, nothings clear, because he used big words that together didn't actually make a coherent argument.
Perhaps if the woman had said as much instead of trying to scam a soundbyte out of him he would have given her a "coherent argument" in return. As it stands he's on the right track and put this nutbag in her place.
Always someone else's fault. It's not my fault I'm bad at sports. It's that I had a bad gym teacher. My PE teacher made me bad at sports. My music teacher made me bad musician. If only I had a good music teacher, I'd be a professional singer. But unfortunately, my bad music teacher and my bad gym teacher ruined my interest in sports and music. Give me a break.
Gabriel Ross Nice strawman.
It's not a straw man if you can't knock it down. One of the problem in education today is the fallacy that aptitude or interest is universal. In prior eras, students with low aptitudes just dropped out or were put on technical tracks. Nowadays, they stay in and struggle. So half the class is below grade level and half is at or above. That is tragic, but not a teacher's fault. That is the fault of government and culture and no teacher can individually compensate for that. Some teachers make some students hate learning. Of course. But you make it sound like a recipe. Maybe what made you hate learning made somebody else love it. Some people like a challenge. Some people don't. What you think is good teaching, I might think is terrible. And what was unclear or incoherent about the argument. It made perfect sense to me. If you disagree with it, then that's your opinion and you can try to persuade me otherwise. But don't use some silly charge backed up by nothing but 'that's what I feel' to make your point. I thought my teachers were lame when I was 16 too. Then I grew up and stopped blaming other people for my own mistakes. My PE teacher didn't make me hate PE. I already hated it. And I happened to like music a lot. I just said that to make a point. I didn't like math when I was a teenager. Later in college I enjoyed it. No teacher made me hate it or like it. It's just the way I was at that time in my life. The things I liked about teachers were usually just things I already liked. That could just be me. But I don't think so.
Gabriel Ross I do not need to "knock down" a strawman. It is an argument you have applied to me that YOU have thoroughly knocked down. You win because you defeated an argument I never made.
What I'm actually saying is that there are some teachers who make learning incredibly unbearable for students. Children associate some pretty negative things to learning and just one reason is some bad apple teachers. I never said teachers cause every problem in learning. You not liking PE for whatever non-teacher-related reason doesn't mean that no student ever was discouraged by a teacher's style.
You know what I'm saying is not profound. You even said you agree. You very much disagree with the reporter in this video, and so do I (I disagree with both, and Anderson's childishness too). But you think I agree with her and that's why you are so upset right now, enough to strawman my very simple point.
"So you take this MBA style thinking, right? It's the problem with ed policy right now--is this intrinsically paternalistic view of problems that are much more complex than that."
This is gibberish.
its hard to take cooper serious
Cooper wants to fill his pooper with Damons lil trooper.
lol
UH ITS THE RIDICULIST MAN GET WITH IT
Especially when he is fawning and swooning over Matt using two big words together. BTW those two words do not even make sense together if you mean them as intended individually. Intrinsically: to come naturally, from within. Paternal: appropriate to a father.
I know right!
I'm Conservative/Libertarian, but I know for a fact that Damon was in the right here. Both my parents were teachers and they worked their butts off, putting in tons of extra, unpaid hours to try and make their students more knowledgeable, but towards the end of their careers, it all became about teaching for the tests. They clearly needed more tests to define their salaries.... Also, as it becomes cooler to do nothing but mouth off and cause trouble in schools, you really can't blame the teachers for anything when the kids won't get off their phones, listen for half a second or sit in their seats...
People like to believe their kids are so perfect and that all the problems must be the teacher's fault, but when you see how many kids act and then see how parents communicate with teachers, you'll understand why America is falling behind in education. It's society...
so with combining holding the teachers responsible Why can't we also hold students responsible. If they don't have the will to learn what the parents to make them learn we always need ditch diggers cabbage pickers and so forth. And all those jobs are needed and no one performing them should be looked down upon for doing hard work. But they hold everyone else back including the teachers. No Lib that I've heard crying about the teachers has supported cracking down the students or acknowledging there are poor teachers that are protected by the union.So if they are crying about people criticizing been one-sided they are just as one-sided.
I had an african american geometry teacher in high school... she taught one day a week, we watched a movie once a week, talked about personal lives, goofed off/did nothing while she was on the computer.... All I'll say is there's no way she was still there for her "work ethic". Something about the need for diversity?
After several years, she was fired after continually not giving finals or anything else and telling her kids to skip class and they'd get 100's.
Yes, there are definitely bad teachers, but testing is a VERY inadequate way of telling whether a teacher is bad or not.
Last random note: She was observed while I was in this "teacher's" class once. She told us to do the exact same hands on (super easy) project she had us do a few days before, so that everyone knew how to do it and she'd look good. After about 2 minutes, I just took out my project from the day before, walked up to her and said "finished" to both the surprise of the "teacher" and the observer.
This "teacher" simply answered the unasked questions of the observer by reminding him that I was the son of the math teacher across the hall....... Lots of paper footballs were made in this class...
XSquibX white teachers sleep with their students all the time.
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I bet Anderson Cooper wished he was singing that song that Silverman was singing....Instead he asked him, "Hey Matt, flip your meat?"
Because Matt Damon was rude, he supposedly proved his point? I still didn't understand what his point was. The interviewer was asking him whether his job performance affects his ability to keep working and get paid well. OF COURSE IT DOES. But he didn't even address that point at all. HE AVOIDED IT. So he gets kudos for avoiding the question??? NO HE DIDN'T "TAKE HER OUT!"
If you start at 1:13, he did answer the question. While you can have your own opinion, you can't have your own facts (I still love using this quote).
If you consider evasion of the question to be an answer, then, okay, he gave a disingenuous answer. Anything to make a communist happy.
Tons of really good actors go without recognition. Performance, like in any job, does not ensure success or further job opportunities. This was essentially his point.
As regards the remark by Mrs. Damon here, the validity and reliability of statistics like "10% of teachers are bad" needs to be met with some skepticism, IMO. How does one measure the "quality" of teaching exactly? In any case, are there not confounding variables which could contribute to the skewing of such results; like the "quality" of *parenting*, for instance - or the lamentable paucity of any incentive (the latter being a result of the fact that the importance of many such professions is not ultimately reflected in their wages)?
Giving them the benefit of the doubt, though, even if it were true that such a high number of teachers taught so poorly as to be labelled "bad", does that then mean the "remaining" *90%* deserve no such suitable fruits for their labours?
Also ... Matt Damon ... "rude"?!
I think defending such an inherently defensible profession from the protestations of Randian ignoramuses (a redundant moniker, IMO) in the way he just did is admirable.
*****
Counterarguments aren't what they used to be.
He answered it saying he disagrees that he doesn't work hard because he gets paid well just like a teacher works hard to get paid shit he does it because he likes it. It's like a question on a social test that asks a question you disagree with . How do you support convervatives(republicans) by being more liberal(democratic) . It just doesn't work like that you deserve to be told off.
Can someone create a clip of Matt Damon's interview without Anderson's face appearing every five seconds? Goddamn.
Mess with Matt Damon and he'll say a bunch of big words at you, LOL.
+labidomosquito Those are far from big words, perhaps you need to step it up?
+chamade166 And you need to shut up.
labidomosquito That must be what you were told as a kid, explains your communication abbilities. :)
labidomosquito No, mine is explained by my genetic makeup and the environment where I grew up, which in my case is a family of professionals where discourse is encouraged and dogma is frowned upon.
Good luck dude.
+labidomosquito perfect response hahahah
Whenever a video has a dislike ratio of at least 50%, it's usually a liberal themed message.
Jonathan Kolbinsky out of all the likes and dislikes it's 33% that have disliked.
Jonathan Kolbinsky youtube is infested with young white boys who find dank memes and 9/11 hysterical. of course any liberal themed video is always accompanied with a lot of dislikes
This video cuts off at 3:38 before Matt Damon wins any argument, someone should fix that.
She cleaned his clock. If using the word "paternalistic" impresses CNN presenters that much I'm gonna stop complaining so much about the BBC.
You're an idiot if you think she cleaned his clock.
Going to find the original clip, this guy interrupts too much...
CNN and "highly intellectual" or "smackdown" don't belong in the same sentence
After six months of tutoring there is no improvement and a kid is still failing math, but because the tutor loves teaching--and I don't want to be labeled "intrinsically paternalistic" by someone who makes believe for a living--instead of firing the tutor I'm going to allow the kid to fail . . . Should we apply this same sense of fairness to the medical profession?
Yes, because in every situation, there are only two possible outcomes. You fucking moron.
Use your words and make some sense Einstein . . .
+Matthew Wells You'd actually be amazed how much this happens in the education system today. Teachers are being praised for letting students squeak out barley over acceptable levels of comprehension and understanding. You're not far from the truth.
+Matthew Wells In the medical profession you're dealing with a narrow focused issue, such as a piece of tissue or a clearly defined illness/syndrome. Even so, in the psychology and psychiatry medical fields. where you're dealing with human minds success rates vary wildly and there is no such thing as a silver bullet, nor can good results be expected just because you are bringing in a rock-star psychiatrist. Similar to classroom dynamics, except nowhere near as complex. Simpleton free-market arguments are a tinny piece of the puzzle when it comes to social sciences.
chamade166
I'm unclear how your proving my analogy is less than perfect has anything to do with the price of tea in China. My last medical "focused issue" required two doctors, two referrals, three specialists, one x-ray a CT scan and MRI over eight weeks. In the end, the most experienced, expensive and accomplished Doctor diagnosed the issue. The rock star got successful results after everyone else failed. As a result, his value goes up because of his success rate -- not JUST because he loved his job and tried his level best.
The funny thing is the reporter asked a good question while Matt's response was more or less: 'because teachers love their job and don't get paid a lot they should keep those jobs no matter how bad they are at it'.
But some dumb people will get impressed with his vocabulary instead of what he was saying and think he somehow won the argument based on his fallacious logic. Pathetic.
Actually, you're the idiot. His argument was against the libertarian idea that people are only motivated by their own rational, self-interest. That's what he was saying. Marx called it commodification, look it up. In short: the swallowing of social life by the market. Suddenly people choose their job because it gives them tenure? That's what the woman suggested, and that's what Mr. Damon's reply was: people (and teachers) don't choose their jobs because their financial opportunities, they teach because its their passion.
Exactly. It almost seems like your making the point of the guy that I was attacking, but I think you're not, right;)?
EddyBearr Totally agree, but then, these are libertarians we are talking about, you can't really expect most of them to express any kind of coherent thought with regard to monetary/economic issues.
Well actually their economic thought is pretty sound if you accept their view of human nature. But since all other social sciences including psychology know that humans tend to act on different grounds than what libertarians think; thats where their theory breaks down, for me at least.
Well yeah, thats true. But you have to admit that there is some evidence to suggest that people act solely in self-interest. So lets be a little modest and acknowledge that we're also not hundred percent sure.
Pretty much any profession has a % of people that just aren't a good fit but in many professions people either quit for something that is a better fit or, they get fired because they aren't performing well.
The problem with teaching is many teachers can't do anything else & make the same money. Not to mention the time off & benefits packages. Those that are not a good fit for the job will stay because they can't get a different job that has equal pay & benefits.
When you make it virtually impossible to fire a bad teacher that just compounds the problem & you end up with more & more bad teachers.
That isn't fair to the students that have little or no control over who their teacher is & it's not fair to the truly good, dedicated teachers out there.
There is nothing wrong with paying teachers well, that attracts good people but when the unions & laws make it hard to get rid of the bad ones it becomes a problem.
Teaching is one of the few jobs where someone that is really bad can dig their heels in & keep doing a bad job for years, entire careers even, and not get fired.
+shananagans5 Typical U.S. right-wing "libertarian" garbage. Ron Paul will never be president (and thank god), and the majority of the population rejects almost all domestic right-wing U.S. "libertarian" policy. Of by the way, everywhere else in the world, the word "libertarian" means anti-Leninist socialist/anarchist, NOT hyper-capitalist.
Go worship the fart air of some billionaire as you right-wing U.S. "libertarians" tend to do.
The U.S. version of "libertarianism" is one version of the right-wing (albeit different from the neo-conservative right-wing, but still right-wing non the less).
In Europe, the word "libertarian" basically means anarchist (meaning anti-capitalist). That is one version of the left-wing.
+shananagans5 Teachers pay is in line with their qualifications, in fact you would expect to get more if you had similar level of education in any job in the private sector. The time off argument is total BS, yes the teachers have school holidays but most teachers put in significant amount of overtime that they are not paid for, ie planning lessons and marking homework.
Those who criticize teachers should try teaching, I bet they would not last one lesson before either losing their cool or leaving in tears.
+xdir Holidays? I think you forgot about summer, you know that time of the year when it's warm and schools are closed.
+Cody M Incorrect. In Europe and many parts of Latin America, the word "libertarian" means anti-capitalist anarchist. Joseph Déjacque was the first person to coin the term "libertarian" for politics, and it was used to describe the anti-capitalist and anti-authoritarian left (Anarchism). Only in the United States does the word "libertarian" take it's opposite meaning (that being hyper-capitalist).
This was done in the most American way possible, 90% about the anchor man, 10% about the Matt Damon story.
"Intrinsically Paternalistic"... How many time do you think he said that in the mirror that morning?
I just became dumber listening to Cooper.
I'm a teacher because I didn't find another job.
Damon knows that job security in Hollywood means spouting liberal platitudes at every opportunity.
Matt Damon spoke out against teacher's salaries being based on student's performance on standardized tests and then goes on to state that "a teacher wants to teach" seemingly to draw a nexus between the teacher's motivation for teaching and salaries. So, according to Matt Damon, teacher's salaries should NOT be based on measurable and articulable student progress, but on the internal motivations of the teacher instead? WOW, what a stretch.
Let the video play!!! The interruptions are annoying!!!
yes. and it makes me choke from Anderson's "smug emissions."
it is a great vid. I could have done without the commentary that gave a hundred trolls the "watch AC suck Matt's cock!" you did it to yourself Anderson.
it was a good video though. Damon grew up next door to Howard Zinn. He's not an idiot.
Team America is an awesome movie though.
Ya way too much talking.
Anderson Cooper is really annoying in this video
It's a good question, but also a good answer. I don't see why this has to be presented as someone 'winning' the conversation.
Watch the video again, but skip the gushing narration and listen to just Damon. He literally said nothing. He did not address the question which was: why would you advocate to guarantee teacher salaries when actor salaries are not guaranteed? If Damon's cause is moral and true, why does it not apply to him as well?
@@ekpurdy He did answer the question. The answer was that competitive teaching will not breed better teachers, nor compensate good teachers to the level at which we think they should. The entire entertainment industry is a luxury similar to sports, and can be measured/compensated by competition because of the fact that it's not necessary. Any form of entertainment is excess and not actually needed, therefore it can be self-regulated through competitive means. Teaching doesn't fit that same category at all, and the problems that come with it can't be solved by simply applying competitive competition to teachers. All it would do is breed rubber-stampers in the industry that look successful on paper, but in fact are not doing their actual job.
@@adamcloud9289 False. Matt did not say anything similar to your comment. His words were "intrinsically patriotical" and "teachers love to teach." Neither comment addresses competition.
You alone cited competition. And despite all the factual data to prove that competition enhances educational outcomes, you claim incorrectly that competition is not beneficial.
"Don't mess with Matt Damon.",Does this guy realize how childish he sounds?Please God ,get these people off the air!
I just wasted 4 minutes of my life.
Don't be so stupid in future.
I'll try, but it's hard not to be sometimes.
bnm19711989 Amen.
Okay CNN, why don't you let people conduct their own analysis of the interview without shoving your opinion down peoples throats, perhaps you would have some better ratings otherwise.
Matt just humiliated teachers by saying they take a shit salary.
Teachers can teach thier asses off but if all of the kids don't respond well that's not the teachers fault. Now you have to start looking at the kids, their parents, their home life, their surroundings, and any other intangibles that affect the individual children. Their teachers, not miracle workers. Some kids need more than what a teacher can give, so their salaries shouldn't be based solely on test results of students.
*They're teachers, not miracle workers. :'( ;)
I don't think you guys are wrong, but it's kind of hard to just shift all the burden onto the parents and leave the system as it is. Kid goes away all day and the parent gets shit on if the kid isn't functioning well in the school? Then it's the parents responsibility to make the kid function within this school... It doesn't work like that. The school has a large bit of responsibility for the outcome in this situation. The school being shit could easily be the cause of problems or an amplifier. Fix what you can, I don't know how you can fix parents but there are many out there with ideas on fixing education.
I don't think I comment here if I didn't read a chunk of that timothy obrien thread above, but now I'm invested sharing my brilliant :) opinion. Anyway the whole situation is too complicated for the bumper stickers. Just because you guys can make libertarians look stupid doesn't mean your right. So libertarian guy made a fool, check. Problem resolved by shifting burden onto others... no. If you want to shift some of the burden, shift some of the resources too. Parents for the most part are just kinda stuck with what they've got. Anyway opinions and assholes, right?
Started both of those with "I don't think" so that one is a gimme. If insulting me please do better, make me proud.
yxrf1xg0 People no longer get to be home with their children. Both parents work. You have to. Then there are the people who can't parent. I hate shitty parents. The majority of the responsibility should rest with the schools since the kids are there like any job, but how can you hold the school responsible when you wont allow them to do whats necessary? I wouldn't take my car to the mechanic and demand he fixes it, but he better not touch it or i'll sue his ass and completely ruin his life by making it so he wont get hired anywhere else. We need to get some real teachers in these schools as well as be more involved with what the kids are doing. Pay these teachers, man! Who wouldn't just give up when they can't even afford their homes, cars and bills. Fuck the system and fuck the parent that refuse to change to make a better system.
What's necessary? I'm not quite getting your mechanic analogy, I wouldn't want the school touching my kid. Is that seen as necessary by you? Possibly just unclear wording there. As far as frustration with the system.. Teachers aren't unique with those frustrations. Those parents that you seem to dislike are likely in the same boat as you. They probably have a very similar line of thinking that ends with fuck those teachers. How would you define shitty parents? I think you might lose some of those constraints on whatever it is you consider necessary to the job if there was a greater element of choice in the matter from the parent's perspective. There would be a form of consent to a teaching method and both sides might work together much better this way. You might be right about the pay, I don't know. I haven't sifted through the us and them to make much sense of it. If the system is so bad though not putting more money into the same scheme doesn't seem terribly irrational. Might work to put it this way, unions have a way of acting that makes sense toward negotiation with an employer. With the schools, it doesn't seem like the interest of the parent is represented. It's like a negotiation with one side absent. Can't solve problems that way. Parents are diverse, but if they were offered options of schools to choose from the parents you need to work with would likely sort themselves into groups that would be easier to work with. Parents with similar concerns should choose similar options to meet those concerns and dealing with a group of like minded people should make solving problems much easier. Maybe approval of the system goes up and those votes that impact teacher pay return more favorable results. Maybe teacher pay becomes a third rail for everybody. Hiring good teachers and paying them more isn't likely to fix the system alone. There are good teachers, they just have to work within so many constraints. It's like taking a steak grinding it up and mixing it with pigs feet. Finally what I post here might be wrong in some way or many ways, but dammit it didn't hinge upon the morality of government : ) Got to give me that one point if nothing else.
yxrf1xg0 as a semi recent graduate of a socially diverse school, it really is home life. if you just go to school everyday and sit down and look at the teacher its pretty much a guarantee to graduate. So many of the kids that didn't graduate just didn't have any drive, and didn't show up to school. the school system didn't raise them like that, it was on the other end, whether it be the parents or other bad influences.
teachers work 8 hours a day matt .plus they get about 12 weeks paid leave a year.
Yeah, you only know bad teachers (which do exist) if you think that, most teachers work outside the school many hours that go unpaid. Many teachers work during summer setting up for the next year and making sure it is all correct. Teachers (like many jobs really) work a lot more than an outsider thinks they do.
+CazRaX bullshit.
I know plenty.
you must be one too.
fucking deluded
+peddle No no, he's got a point. I recall getting bulletins on the highschool website back in the day with updates about the curriculum that teachers were working on over the summer. They do a lot of their class planning during the off-season, because they aren't busy grading papers and such during that time.
That said, I'm not implying every teacher does that. But there are very dedicated teachers, who have been doing their job for decades, and don't care about the pay. It's a passion, not a job for the good ones.
Most of the curriculum is handed down by glorious government. This is how government creates conformity. Unfortunately good teachers get caught up in this corruption.
Peddle, you're an idiot--8 hours a day! When do you think they make up their tests and quizzes, grade them, mark student papers, much less design lesson plans required by administrators, etc. Teaching is a 24/7 job. They deserve the 3 months off.
I surmise she wasn't there to debate. Certainly there are responses to his comments. However she is a reporter. She wants to know his comments and report them, not debate him. This is unlike liberal reporters who believe all interviews with conservatives must turn into debates.
"Where did you get that number?"
-nobody's talking to you
Cooper Anderson your not funny, do you think you can let the video play for more then 5 seconds without your poor attempt at humor ?
+Mansion Video Well this was part of a channel called CNN. On CNN they report news. This is only a clip from the entire news cast. So Anderson Cooper couldn't let video play more than 5 seconds because he didn't make it. Does that make sense?
+Mr. Splashman And in the interest of time would you not want to cut the BS out of the video ? CNN is far from a news channel, it's more of a bleeding heart rumor mill. In the future if you leave a condescending comment try to know at least a little bit about the topic.
Matt has an intrinsically maternalistic view on life and personal responsibility .
You’re aware you said maternalistic right? Which isn’t what he said
@@brycerichards6309 I made a statement that Mat thinks like a woman . That doesn't require that I use his words .
@@brycerichards6309 I wrote that 6 years ago , Mat has since moved to the Right and is now thinking more like a man .
@@jimmymags6516 oh shit didn’t think you’d respond, nice
So teachers don't care about their salaries? They only teach because they want to teach? That's funny, because MILLIONS of teachers go on strike in this country because they demand HIGHER PAY.
If Matt Damon thinks that money does not incentivize him to act, maybe he should act in movies for free without being compensated and we'll see how long he will last. How do you like them apples?
samsonpker I think you missed the part where she said it was an INCENTIVE. Key word. Money provides an incentive to do your job. Money provides an incentive to be at work on time. Money provides an incentive to keep your job and not screaming at customers (because in doing so would result in the loss of your job, aka money). Would teachers around the country wake up 5 days a week to teach a bunch of kids if they weren't being compensated? I didn't think so.
+Hacking Penny Stocks Maybe its because they can't live like human beings with their shitty pay and they want a decent pay which they deserve as working human beings.
samsonpker I didn't miss your point. Your point was absolutely flawed. Most viewers would argue Damon was pretty serious about his position. YOU, on the other hand, can't seem to grasp Damon's perspective, especially in regards to this "MBA-style" thinking.
+Hacking Penny Stocks your a dumb shit
+LSDeeper "yes millions of teachers to go on strike because of their pay. Not for the fact they don't make a certain salary, but that most school counties have cut teachers salaries."
What difference does it make if their salary was cut or that it was not a certain value? This illustrates my point even further, MONEY CREATES INCENTIVES. If the teachers didn't care about money ie salary being cut, then they wouldn't go on strike.
"Teaching and acting don't correlate as professions so you can't contrast the two in that regard."
Actually teaching and acting are professions, and they are professions they will compensate you with money if and when you decide to teach or act. Again, if Damon doesn't think acting does not incentive people to act, stop asking for x million dollars per movie and just do it for free. Do you honestly think he, or any other actor in Hollywood, would continue to act?
She didn't even "mess with" Matt Damon though. She asked a legitimate question that actually has statistical evidence to back it up and he chose to get triggered and go down this pseudo-intellectual tangent instead of remain calm and answer respectfully. Honestly I'm sick of people giving celebrities a free pass when they straight up act like condescending jerks. He might be a great actor, but he's not an expert on everything, and frankly in this clip he's being downright egotistical and disproportionately defensive to what was a relatively mild interview question.
I agree that was a douchey response, he’s getting paid just fine for acting of all things too. The fame and power of both politicians and actors disgust me when they’re real assholes.
The question was condescending to begin with, not to mention a hopeful "gotcha" moment and nothing more. The mere concept that competition breeds incentive and is the reason for hard work is faulty beyond measure, and cannot be applied to something as complex as teaching/learning issues. Matt Damon understood this. The reporter did not.
@@adamcloud9289exactly she was just hoping he would be speechless. Her question was solely based on the assumption Damon would be stupid.
How was his answer not "respectful"? What an asinine comment.
Bottom line: in at 8AM, out by 4PM, every holiday off, 2-3 weeks off at Christmas, a week at spring break, three months in the summer, and paid handsomely (start $45k--some at nearly $100k, plus bennies) with a four-year college education and masters degree from taxpayer-paid night classes, where even the lousiest teachers are supported by their union to keep their jobs, one-size-fits-all lesson plan used year-after-year, grading on autopilot. It's a cush gig! Hour for hour, making more than most readers of this thread. Teachers. It's good to be one.
Tsst89 I know right? Getting paid and supported so you can hopefully feel like a "whole" human being and keep going back to work? Great stuff!
Why do you care so much about what people get paid, and whether or not they should be fired? You seem like a wannabe authoritarian that nobody takes seriously.
Robert Thomas I couldn't really answer for someone else, but one obvious answer is that they are publicly funded through taxes.
Yeah, roger that. It's just that termination as the only solution is so Donald Trump fucktarded. That's all. We need ideas and nation builders, not bitter little destroyers.
coolkayaker1 I am going to assume you don't actually know many (if any) teachers if you think their work day starts at 8AM and ends at 4PM. I know many, and they all work far longer hours than that.
Teachers want to teach? Fine, let them teach. No one is saying they can't. They can teach all they want, but parents ought to have the power to decide which schools and teachers they pay for. Also, parents shouldn't have to pay for a failing, public school system they're not using on top of paying for a private school. Don't even get me started on Common Core. Matt stands beside all these union teachers (most probably aren't teachers but professional protesters) who are afraid of greater parental choice drying up their jobs. Where do you think his kids go to school? You can damn sure bet it isn't a public school. He wouldn't be caught dead sending his kids to a public school. Sadly, seems he's so deluded the hypocrisy is probably lost on him.
So, the logic is that if there is something wrong with the education system, the answer is to... move? Public education is failing regardless of the district. Some only more so than others. But oh no, lets not try to replace a broken system! No the problem is with us. We're just living in the wrong places folks. Right?
VirtualSuperSoldier So you are saying hey if the system is broken because the system IS broken. Dont fix it just build a new one which 50% of the people cant afford so they will be left without any chance? Bravo. You sir planned well for your country. Maybe you should tell your moneyhungry politicans to stop throwing your money in the mouth of big companies and maybe start to invest it in the only thing that will save this country from being eaten by a hungry fast growing dragon. Your Kids and their education. If the public schools would get only the money the agencies of your country use to spy on you citizens no matter what youve done for the country. You probably would have one of the best school systems in the western hemisphere. But u cant build a working car if you are only given wood sticks. Dont judge the school system. Judge the ones who messed it up. (Democrats and republicans both did a great job there!)
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We have done nothing but throw money at our educational system for the last 30-40 years! We are spending many many times more now than what we were in the 70s and 80s. When asked, the answer is always the same... We need more money! More money! More money! Talks about a hungry maw. We have reached the point in the life cycle of the system where throwing more money at it will not gain us much of anything. Yet so much and so many are entrenched, there is really isn't much else we can do to it but throw money. Money we don't have. YES, I think we need a clean slate. Mind you, I'm not necessarily talking about a system free of the public domain. I'm up for whatever works. I can also separate how we pay from what we're paying for. What we are paying for now is NOT working. I think we can all agree on that. In that spirit, privatizing should be considered an option. Consider that a more privatized system would likely result in subdivided school districts creating a number of smaller schools with smaller class sizes. Show me anyone who doesn't want that. Including teachers. Speaking of teachers, qualified teachers with good records would likely find expanded opportunities by way of greater competition. They could be commanding higher salaries while teaching smaller more focused classes. As far as 50% not being able to afford it, As I said, I'm not opposed to a public option if it works.Charter schools, many of whom receive gov funding are doing great things in the inner city these days. That is when they aren't under attack from democrats and teachers unions.
Thrillcekr comparing private schools to private prisons is a bit apples to oranges but here we go: Private schools are usually paid for by the parents/family of the children attending, and donations. Also, some states have programs where tax payers can use a bit of their state taxes to fund scholarship programs that might go to private schools (might). There are also state funded voucher programs that allow under privileged kids to go to private schools as well. Private prisons on the other hand, are paid for by contract between a private entity and a state or federal government. In other words, purely the allocation of tax dollars. It's not as if prisoners or their families are not being made to pay for their incarceration like parents pay for private school. The success of private prisons depends on who you talk to and their political leanings. I think in the long run however, when factoring in retirement and health benefits that the government will not be paying, it might be a better deal for the taxpayer. The private contractor is responsible for their own retirement and health benefit plans, after all. I suspect it's the same story for Your local DMV. No public employees = no retirement or healthcare for taxes to pay. States all across the country have identified privatization as a way of reducing costs and debt. That is a good thing. As far as judges taking payoffs, blame the payer or payee? No payoff can be made if the judge doesn't take it. But all that aside, we are talking about schools. I agree with your statement that the biggest problems can't be fixed by more money, i.e., throwing more money at our educational system won't solve anything. We need to consider a new system. I also agree that parents should get more involved in their children's education. Which is exactly what many of them are attempting to do by taking their kids out of public school and putting them in private or charter schools. They should have every right to do this as legal guardians of their child if they think it will help. There is surprising resistance to this. Sometimes even direct political attack. My last point is this: why do so many assume that if we don't pay for the education of our children through taxes, that they won't get educated or that it won't get paid for?
Monopolies do not work. Ask the late Theodore Roosevelt. They do not work in the private or public sector
"10% of teachers are bad."
Wtf.
How does he propose we keep teachers accountable? Do we just let them do whatever because they have "passion" for teaching? I'm sorry but there are objectively bad teachers and good teachers. We need to get rid of the bad, if we want our children to learn anything.
Over here in the Netherlands (Europe) we keep making the exams for students easier every year.
And then we say: "You see, the youth isn't becoming more stupid by the day !", in a self congratulatory manner ...
Maybe there is too much knowledge available for people nowadays.
It's hard to filter out the truth with so much bullshit floating around on the internet.
@Karl Haywood the unions do exactly that, dunderhead.
Still waiting to see the reporter get taken out. It was a sound example of how overpaid government workers will never strive to perform out of necessity such as those in private business. I think Matt did not answer at all in fact and simply over reacted to a question which he had no answer.
I don't think that the Libertarian interviewer could have picked a worse angle to go from. It's not that teachers will be incentivised to do better by having job insecurity, it's that having pay based on performance will enable us to marginalise and get rid of the truly horrendous teachers in the public schools that we are stuck with because of Teacher Unions and teacher-tenure. We need to be able to sack bad teachers, otherwise the students will suffer.
I'm sorry, if a teacher has consistent A-grade classes across the board on standardised tests, then they are a better teacher that someone whose classes have been failing over the same period, and they deserve to be paid more.
I know about the argument that it's bad parenting causing poor child performance, but why then are the education establishment opposed to every attempt to test this theory? A voucher system would put those same failing students, with the same parents at home, in new schools of the parents choosing. If it is their home life causing their failure, then the bad results would follow them to the new school
Ahmen bell! The education establishment is opposed to testing this theory because they already know vouchers would work.
Jason James No, teachers are not worried that vouchers will work. We're concerned that the same fools promoting the business model transposed to the educational system will be the ones deciding who's a good teacher and who is not despite not knowing a damn thing about education.
Provide some evidence that public schools have better achievement scores than charter schools.
It will be a combination of the parents and the standardised test results that determine who is a good teacher
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maybe it is. i always paid more attention in classes taught by teachers that actually knew their stuff. i had a science teacher in 7th grade that as a person i hated because he was a stuck up jerk but he really knew his stuff. i paid attention in class even if i looked like i was off in space somewhere i did well in all the tests he gave but never passed in a single homework assignment. because i didn't like the guy it was all part of my plan to screw with him. yea i was kind of a jerky kid too so i guess that made us even. some of my college professors were so bad i didn't even want to go to class sometimes but i worked out the material on my own and still did well. i think it's worse to have bad teachers in college though. public education is free but if i'm paying somebody $200 to teach me math for 16 weeks they better know math better than me.
wtf is this nonsense commentary from Anderson Cooper? They should've just played the clip instead of cutting it up and adding stupid comments. Cringe-worthy tbh.
Why is "Libertarian" in the title? What does this have to do with any libertarians?
Reason is a libertarian publication
It is fuckin' nonsense to say all teachers should be paid well just as stupid as it is to say that they shouldn't. What you need is a system in which you filter out the dipshits who are taking up the positions and appoint real proper teachers and pay them well.
the anchor was failing miserably at being funny.
Just roll the clip then comment after. It's really jarring to have you jump cutting in every sentence.
"A teacher wants to teach." Yeah, right. Tell my public school teachers that.
Jonathan Kolbinsky then they should stop teaching.
A teacher doesn't go to school to become a teacher because they want the money. They go because they want to. Public school teachers might not enjoy it after dealing with shits, but you don't suddenly become a teacher out of no where
InternetScaresMe Agreed, I think most teachers are motivated by passion for the job/vocation. Ok the money is quite good, but the satisfaction comes from a student that has been inspired or 'turned around' by the teacher's skill in what they do. ps I am not a teacher.
I wouldn't blame her
I think I know what they would answer. ”Yes, I do want to teach. Just not Jonathan Kolbinsky. He’s such an asshole.”
whats his mom got to complain about, her sons a millionaire I'm sure she is living VERY comfortably
i guess she's doing it for idealogical reasons.. or is that an alien concept to you?
Tim Berendsen its alien to me, if you're living $comfortably$ then how can you protest over something like wage disparity with true passion and devotion? it would mean something if she was living paycheck to paycheck and was trying to make a stand for higher wages but since she isn't how can i take her seriously? If anything Matt Damon can just pump money into the cause or match donations if he cares so much about it. I'm 100% sure he takes care of his mom so she is just $fine$
maybe it means more to stand for an ideology if you actually experience some hardship rather than just read about it or hear about it, crazy right?
His principals, like all socialists, is that money should be stolen from the many to give to the few. End all Corporate and Union welfare immediately. Education has been sabotaged by the same style of corruption found in the banking sector. ...welcome to socialism.
walperstyle yep, except I think whats worse about education than banking is that bankers at least some of the time however rare do have to answer to government inquiries, education just seems to go its route without any real reorganization or review. Almost like a mafia, people on school boards are grandfathered in and never have to make any change for the better, all the have to do is keep the status quo and are ousted is they speak up.
That is what socialism is. Get into power, create a two tier class society. Government and Citizens. There is way less opportunity because those decisions have been taken away from you.
People that like socialism should talk to people in Europe that fled away from it. Buzzkill on opportunity.
Also, Great documentary : "Chuck Norris vs Communism" (it has nothing to do with Chuck Norris)
is this what cnn calls news?
"McDonald's workers really love to work at McDonald's! Why else would they take a shit hourly wage and terrible hours and do that job unless they REALLY loved to do it??"
Teachers are not actually under paid, that’s false . They get time off and paid all year they also get enormous protections and benefits from the government.
a "paternalistic view?" The reporter was a woman but Damon is the intelligent one?
Between paternalism, maternalism, and individualism, Damon was taking the maternalistic stance while the reporter was taking the individualistic stance. Nobody was taking the paternalistic stance.
allixpeeke Yea. In this case, the individualistic stance that you're speaking of is one that has been formed over a long period of time that says that people are only motivated by money, not passion. This is derived from a paternalistic need to provide for a family, through job security and a drive to excel which means more money. Damon was clarifying that most in the teaching profession, and even his profession, do not live by that ideal. Passion for the profession is what drives them to not only work the profession, but to excel at it as well.
Mattttt daaameeeon- team America! Lol
I saw finally saw that movie for the first time last year.
It was hilarious..
I think he makes good points, in general. Of course there is more to a career than just the paycheck. But the problem is that if teachers are not rewarded for performance, those who actually do love teaching and create positive results for their students will be held back by those who just want to get a steady paycheck with minimal effort.
A great actor like Matt Damon would never achieve the prominence and freedom of acting choices that he has if actors were not rewarded for performance.
Anderson's comments add absolutely nothing though. Really annoying how he kept interrupting the video.
My question is, what sort of moron gets into teaching for the money? It's not awesome, the only reason a sane person would get into teaching (in the US anyway) is for love of educating others.
***** Most people work only for the paycheck. What, no teachers are lazy, stupid, bad, mean, none of them have personal issues, none of them became teacher cause they couldnt find something else, none of them is stuck in a completely failed system etc. etc.
Matt Damon is a good example of whats wrong with left wingers in the USA. They refuse to see the reality of things and if you tell them they'll pick a good example amongst the pile of crap and call you names cause you criticize the whole thing.
***** there are always some people within any profession who are lazy, underskilled, or jaded, etc. One of my teachers in high school was an alcoholic.
Even if on some level a teacher feels that teaching is a noble activity, he can still end up doing a terrible job of it. Rewarding performance ensures that those who are truly capable of teaching have the opportunity to do so.
This clip isn't what you want it to be, or expect from the title. It's Anderson Cooper's version of a viral video rip off show. Because the best way to show respect for your audience, is by talking down to them by stopping the thing they are watching, to explain the thing they are watching.
The average salary for a teacher in the US is $60,477, and starting salaries are often below $40,000. “According to the National Education Association, the average salary for a teacher in the US was $60,477 a year for the 2017-18 school” they get summers off and ben if it’s and retirement.
C'mon Coop, don't be THAT guy; the guy that takes a decent clip that's about 30 seconds, cuts it into like 5 pieces, and uses it as some kind of springboard for your own mediocre dialogue. You're better than that, that's the sort of bullshit you'd expect from those REACT or filler channels that contribute NOTHING to the actual substance of the source material.
Teachers are underpaid? Who decides whats a fair pay, let me guess those same teachers ;)
***** I'm not taking sides here, but arguing on a TH-cam video? There are NO winners there.
There is no argument. There could have been an argument but Elijah decided to call me a Jackass and attack me personally instead of my arguments.
Now he thinks he's the winner because he thinks he tried to "save me' and failed in his virtuous attempt.
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He went "Good Matt Damon" on their asses!!! 😂