Good ol' Boxer engines. Virtually bullet proof, and easy to work on. I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw the engine go from 4 cylinders to 6 and back. Thought my mind was playing tricks on me.
The ignition system if I am correct ( and I'm sure I am, as I perform maintenance on a 1955 Beechcraft Bonanza with an E225-8 engine ) consists of the plugs, wires, and mags. The V-tail has 12 plugs and wires, with two mags. I've also thought it funny that they're still making mags as it's basically 1940's technology and today's coil on cap systems are far more reliable.
I love when the narrator says the thing about 4 cylinders right at the end. Because, of course, that lycoming 6 cylinder definetly only uses 4... Nice video though, learned quite a lot!
It's amazing that only silk thread that goes around the case keeps oil from leaking between both halves. Even going to RVC (Rock Valley College) through the AVM program they show us how it's done and since the thread has to be FAA approved it is quite expensive
Interest sure! No cash to take advantage of the craft out there these days. I think more people WANT to fly than the old pot bellies at the airport lounge think there are. But only 1% of the population can even think about affording it.
The ohc Ford V8 powered tanks during the war, as for their people mowers, simple design, cheap to drive and maintain. Not to different from Peugeot. When you say WW2 tech you must keep in mind cutting edge engine tech is pretty similar to day, engine management such as electronics is what have moved foreward.
About dual spark plugs: On planes - safety. On racing cars in the past it was mainly for spark duration. Correctly timed two plugs can together make a longer lasting spark which in turn improves the burn. Two plugs is on racing engines today more or less superceeded by various multiple spark discharge systems like MSD. Read Smokey Yunicks book "Power Secrets". It´s all there.
Ignition system is everything. Plugs, wires and mags. TCM(Fadec) is starting too use it's new electronic ignition system in new planes now or retro fit older ones. Lycoming is also work on a EFI system also which is starting to show up on some new planes. Getting new tech approve for aviation can take forever and cost millions when it comes to engine. I know, I build engines for a living.
Indeed! The part is that was probably something like a 7.2 liter 180 HP engine. The pistons are so huge because it produces all of its power below 2400 RPM. If they used small pistons to produce that power by the engine turning faster, they have to add reduction gearing that increases weight, something to fail, power loss, etc. Props can't turn much faster than 2400 RPM (on this size plane) because if the blade tips exceed the speed of sound, drag increases and thrust decreases.
Watch carefully as he's installing the cylinder at around 2:22. Notice that the place is missing? Those "torque" plates are only installed temporarily during assembly; they aren't an actual engine component.
Nicely done, that coming from and old FAA Certified Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic. Note that a magneto is not the same as an alternator. A magneto is a device that generates the energy to create the electrical ignition pulse t
Silk in this place is absolutly the best thing to use. When the mainbearing are bored in the the block you cant use gaskets, silk can take oil, moves with the metal and dont affect torqe on the bolts. This is lightweigth, few parts, low end torq due to big volume and will last a very long time.
2:24 how easy he put on the cylinder when i did my first top end rebuilt on my 2 stroke seadoo it took me 45 minutes i had to invent my own ring compressor
The Hercules powered a number of aircraft including Bristol's own Beaufighter heavy fighter design although it was more commonly used on bombers. The Hercules also saw use in civilian designs. The design was also licensed for production in France by SNECMA. It was considered to be one of the most reliable aircraft engines of the era, and was well liked by both pilots and mechanics. (aircooled) Frm Wikipedia. Think......
and also - the drive belts (or chains) are just another point for failure, and the cylinder heads are separated to allow proper air-cooling. the separate heads would mean you needed 4 cam shafts, 8 pulleys and 4 belts. timing would be a nightmare :)
@mahdimatabdar Magnetos are part of the electrical circuit that generate electricity from the rotation of the engine - you need these to create electricity for the spark. Yes the engine is fuel injected, but you still need a spark plug to start combustion.
Soharino, you are right, it is. Where is the water cooled, compact, high-performance reliability like that you'd find in any reasonably modern car? This is air cooled 1930's technology!
This is going in an airplane, which has a maximum takeoff weight. Every pound you waste on radiators, coolant and water pumps is a pound you can't use for fuel, passengers or baggage. 1930s technology works fine, and it's lighter.
The Lancaster, an evolution of the troublesome Avro Manchester, was powered by four Rolls-Royce Merlins, or Bristol Hercules engines. Bristol Hercules was a 14-cylinder two-row radial aircraft engine and it was aircooled. Think ...........
+ThomasTheSailor Chubby she is only reading an auto que, it makes you wonder why they don't get the company to proof the video tho, there are always annoying mistakes in this program but I love it all the same
er... no it doesn't, it uses venturi effect to drop the inlet manifold pressure bellow that of the fuel in the float bowl and suck the fuel into the airflow, one side effect of the drop in pressure is the drop in temperature resulting in the need for carb heat controls. don't worry, carb icing is very unlikely to ever effect a PC pilot such as yourself.
That's not a carb, it's a EFI. It's like those electronic carbs, but more like throttle body injection. This engine originally was Carbueratted, but it hasn't seen a carb since the late 70s early 80s
well it does look like a air-cooled vw engine a vw engine is a opposed twin thats air cooled with the push rod guides going along side the cylinders so ya....
Whe speak here from the aircraft engine from the video, not a unknown Ford V8 (up to 1950, the most V8 Ford was flathead with lateral valves, a prehistoric design(built up up to 1973 (!!!)...), and for your information , the first known 4 valve engine is a Peugeot from 1913 ,well known in...Indianapolis Races...and during many years...
unlike a car where the crank sits inside the oil pan, the crank on a piston aircraft sits inside the block, the bearings require a tight fight, and as such you can't have a gasket. These engines have been in use for 80 years and theres no issue of reliability.. performance on the other hand leaves a bit to be desired. Which is why most companies today are going with Rotax, rather than Lycomming, or Continental.
***** I was referring to the way it was spelt in the subtitles, I fully understand the concept. Plus, it ensures a more even, and economic burn of the fuel/air mix!
@sabamacx OHC prone to failure. i would NOT want a timing chain to snap while in flight would you?, sure pushrods can break as well. this does happen. but youd know a pushrod is on its way out long before failure happens.
1. They use journaled bearings for reliability. 2. Fasteners are torqued, crimped, &/or safety wired. I don't understand what you are saying. Engines are built in many different configurations.
That is Beautiful, but,He *forgot washers* on the Cylinder bolts at 2:30 .. That's a No-No . washers spread out the force and reduce friction for proper torque. I didn't see a Company name or Logo.
it's not meant to have washers my friend, I've spent too long putting these things together, and neither Lycoming or continental ask for washers under the cylinder base nuts, regardless of the type of nut. anything under the nut would only increase the possible of fretting in the case halves which wrecks engines and can cause a seize.
Right, RELIABILITY!, thats why these motors are so expensive (along with liability). You can buy VW beetle motors for aircraft if you want an engine without liability....they cost about $6000 for 70HP or so, after all if the damn thing breaks its hard to pull over and call AAA!
Some of the parts and process look really stone age! (Mishmash of fastener types, and that journal polishing process! Isn't that some kind of osha violation?)
Actually, truth be known, it's VW engines that look like opposed airplane engines. Porsche used them originally because they were light, already in production and he could get them for a good price.
This engine has a really cool feature : it can upgrade itself from 4 to 6 cylinders. 03:12
I didn't know it was so easy to make an aircraft engine. I'll try in my garage.
Use v8
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Na v12
Good ol' Boxer engines. Virtually bullet proof, and easy to work on.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw the engine go from 4 cylinders to 6 and back. Thought my mind was playing tricks on me.
speaking of backups, check out the UH-60 hydraulic system, that's what i call an ocean of science
The ignition system if I am correct ( and I'm sure I am, as I perform maintenance on a 1955 Beechcraft Bonanza with an E225-8 engine ) consists of the plugs, wires, and mags. The V-tail has 12 plugs and wires, with two mags. I've also thought it funny that they're still making mags as it's basically 1940's technology and today's coil on cap systems are far more reliable.
This is so awesome. I love engines and planes
Very good video enjoyed the detail! thought it was a subaru engine at first !
nice lil rv8
Half of the video showed a 4-cylinder and the other half is a 6 cylinder
I love when the narrator says the thing about 4 cylinders right at the end. Because, of course, that lycoming 6 cylinder definetly only uses 4... Nice video though, learned quite a lot!
wonderful video thanks Lycoming.
Wow sopar very very nice vedio and very very happy nice job I like
Interesting video. Looks like an aircooled VW engine
i like those little planes :)
Thats a dream job for thousands of people
the oil prevents contact metal to metal, it cools the hot parts and keep the engine clean inside thats the right phrase.
ahh. Now it makes sense! Thanx!
It's amazing that only silk thread that goes around the case keeps oil from leaking between both halves. Even going to RVC (Rock Valley College) through the AVM program they show us how it's done and since the thread has to be FAA approved it is quite expensive
I am an oldschool O.G. A&P P.P. & F.C.C. gen rad.tel.op lic...qualified tech. Its Good to see more intrest in Our Craft...WellDone! Carry On...
Interest sure! No cash to take advantage of the craft out there these days. I think more people WANT to fly than the old pot bellies at the airport lounge think there are. But only 1% of the population can even think about affording it.
Understod!
It's simplicity is it's beauty
what's not shown.. why this simple engine, whose development, and tooling costs were paid in 1954, costs $28,000 !!
+Capt Larry FAA certification, which creates a monopoly as this is one of the few engines of this size that is certified.
+Nobody YouKnow If you have to ask...
how much it should cost in your opinion ?
4 reasons, actually:
1. FAA certification
2. Liability
3. Liability
4. Liability
bloody lawyers, bloody lawyers and more bloody lawyers plus faa
That's depends of the point of vue. This more reliable than overhead camshaft with timing belt, and requieres no maintenance during the engine life.
2:22 Those pistons are bloody massive. You use brake discs that size to stop a Veyron!
The ohc Ford V8 powered tanks during the war, as for their people mowers, simple design, cheap to drive and maintain. Not to different from Peugeot. When you say WW2 tech you must keep in mind cutting edge engine tech is pretty similar to day, engine management such as electronics is what have moved foreward.
About dual spark plugs: On planes - safety. On racing cars in the past it was mainly for spark duration. Correctly timed two plugs can together make a longer lasting spark which in turn improves the burn. Two plugs is on racing engines today more or less superceeded by various multiple spark discharge systems like MSD. Read Smokey Yunicks book "Power Secrets". It´s all there.
Ignition system is everything. Plugs, wires and mags. TCM(Fadec) is starting too use it's new electronic ignition system in new planes now or retro fit older ones. Lycoming is also work on a EFI system also which is starting to show up on some new planes. Getting new tech approve for aviation can take forever and cost millions when it comes to engine. I know, I build engines for a living.
Indeed! The part is that was probably something like a 7.2 liter 180 HP engine. The pistons are so huge because it produces all of its power below 2400 RPM. If they used small pistons to produce that power by the engine turning faster, they have to add reduction gearing that increases weight, something to fail, power loss, etc. Props can't turn much faster than 2400 RPM (on this size plane) because if the blade tips exceed the speed of sound, drag increases and thrust decreases.
This is fabulous a result of 109 years of flight
We may see a resurgence of high tech piston driven radial/center shaft engines with the way gas prices are going...
Watch carefully as he's installing the cylinder at around 2:22. Notice that the place is missing? Those "torque" plates are only installed temporarily during assembly; they aren't an actual engine component.
Nicely done, that coming from and old FAA Certified Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic. Note that a magneto is not the same as an alternator. A magneto is a device that generates the energy to create the electrical ignition pulse t
Silk in this place is absolutly the best thing to use. When the mainbearing are bored in the the block you cant use gaskets, silk can take oil, moves with the metal and dont affect torqe on the bolts. This is lightweigth, few parts, low end torq due to big volume and will last a very long time.
It's common in an air cooled engine, The cylinders can be connected to the block individually with space between them.
2:24 how easy he put on the cylinder when i did my first top end rebuilt on my 2 stroke seadoo it took me 45 minutes i had to invent my own ring compressor
when i saw that happening i immediately went to look in the comments to see if anyone had said what i was thinking, and sure enough, first comment.
No.Spark plugs are spark plugs. The ignitions system are the magnetos.
Cool,1930's technology at work in that engine
I bet these would do great in a VW Beetle
I like your thinking. :) lol
These are museum pieces. Time for modern technology now.
How you fix computer at 20 000 feet? if first magneto break second still make sparks. No battery and No generator needed.
still a very good video though
The Hercules powered a number of aircraft including Bristol's own Beaufighter heavy fighter design although it was more commonly used on bombers. The Hercules also saw use in civilian designs. The design was also licensed for production in France by SNECMA. It was considered to be one of the most reliable aircraft engines of the era, and was well liked by both pilots and mechanics. (aircooled)
Frm Wikipedia.
Think......
and also - the drive belts (or chains) are just another point for failure, and the cylinder heads are separated to allow proper air-cooling. the separate heads would mean you needed 4 cam shafts, 8 pulleys and 4 belts. timing would be a nightmare :)
@mahdimatabdar Magnetos are part of the electrical circuit that generate electricity from the rotation of the engine - you need these to create electricity for the spark.
Yes the engine is fuel injected, but you still need a spark plug to start combustion.
Aircraft engines don't rev hard enough to need it.
For example - a PA-28's redline is about 2700 RPM (from memory)
Seems easy !
amazing
C'est beau.
but with a much bigger displacement. The 4 cylinder ones are 320-360ci.
I like it!!!!!!!
much like a BMW Airhead... 50 years ago. (FWIW, Dual-plugging really works well)
Lycoming has been building engines for over a hundred years. I think they know what they are doing.
Soharino, you are right, it is. Where is the water cooled, compact, high-performance reliability like that you'd find in any reasonably modern car? This is air cooled 1930's technology!
This is going in an airplane, which has a maximum takeoff weight. Every pound you waste on radiators, coolant and water pumps is a pound you can't use for fuel, passengers or baggage. 1930s technology works fine, and it's lighter.
3:23 where is Magneto?? i dont see his helmet anywhere??? in fact, two Magnetos??? are you sure the other one is not Professor X?
The Lancaster, an evolution of the troublesome Avro Manchester, was powered by four Rolls-Royce Merlins, or Bristol Hercules engines.
Bristol Hercules was a 14-cylinder two-row radial aircraft engine and it was aircooled.
Think ...........
fuck sakes, the number of times they go between the 4 and 6 cylinder engine, and no love, that's a carburetor not an injector.
+ThomasTheSailor Chubby she is only reading an auto que, it makes you wonder why they don't get the company to proof the video tho, there are always annoying mistakes in this program but I love it all the same
er... no it doesn't, it uses venturi effect to drop the inlet manifold pressure bellow that of the fuel in the float bowl and suck the fuel into the airflow, one side effect of the drop in pressure is the drop in temperature resulting in the need for carb heat controls. don't worry, carb icing is very unlikely to ever effect a PC pilot such as yourself.
VW Beetle air cooled engine came from factory with carb de-icing!
That's not a carb, it's a EFI. It's like those electronic carbs, but more like throttle body injection.
This engine originally was Carbueratted, but it hasn't seen a carb since the late 70s early 80s
I think that's a throttle body fuel injector
its shaped nd mounted just like a suburu! :)
well it does look like a air-cooled vw engine a vw engine is a opposed twin thats air cooled with the push rod guides going along side the cylinders so ya....
It's more fun building a race engine - once built you then have to go and thrash the hell out of it to see how fast it is...
Epic handy is Epic
Ima put it on my civic
A 160hp 4 cylinder lycoming is about 5.2L and uses 36 litres an hour in a cruise :)
@@ElBantosClips Produces a fuck ton more torque than a civic engine at a 2600 rpm redline.
Ohh, o tough they were that parts commonly found in old motorcycle who dont have batteries. (and some bicycles)
no, miss announcer, oil does not prevent friction, it reduces it drastically.
Whe speak here from the aircraft engine from the video, not a unknown Ford V8 (up to 1950, the most V8 Ford was flathead with lateral valves, a prehistoric design(built up up to 1973 (!!!)...), and for your information , the first known 4 valve engine is a Peugeot from 1913 ,well known in...Indianapolis Races...and during many years...
It actually says "Lycoming" on the cylinder cover: 3:00
using gasket from a can and thread to seal an engine: smart.
It works, for a given degree of works. most of the drips come from the cylinder or the valve covers usually.
unlike a car where the crank sits inside the oil pan, the crank on a piston aircraft sits inside the block, the bearings require a tight fight, and as such you can't have a gasket. These engines have been in use for 80 years and theres no issue of reliability.. performance on the other hand leaves a bit to be desired. Which is why most companies today are going with Rotax, rather than Lycomming, or Continental.
who do you build for
Duel spark plugs??? Surely she means dual?!
***** I was referring to the way it was spelt in the subtitles, I fully understand the concept. Plus, it ensures a more even, and economic burn of the fuel/air mix!
@DaveOfKnox Powermaster Aircraft Engines. We specialize in Bonanzas, Barons and C210s.
0:50 that ain't his first rodeo!!
you cant move it back and forth, the polishing is to remomve burrs from the grinding and it must be done rotating the crank.
Wow, all I need to build and aircraft engine is some sand paper and a crankshaft
Magnetos instead of batteries.. I want this in my car!
@sabamacx OHC prone to failure. i would NOT want a timing chain to snap while in flight would you?, sure pushrods can break as well. this does happen. but youd know a pushrod is on its way out long before failure happens.
WW2 technology? in the foyrties Ford made a doch v8 with four walve heads , pretty modern design if you ask mee.
Working the polishing jack all day looks like it could lead to early Bursitis.
1. They use journaled bearings for reliability.
2. Fasteners are torqued, crimped, &/or safety wired.
I don't understand what you are saying. Engines are built in many different configurations.
Haha I noticed that too
coba kalau ada laser pemotong rumput. pasti keren kalau di pakai di sawah. he he......ngarep gampang.
Jorge Rodrigez the thread creates a "locking technique" so that oil won't seep. It's essential
Rodriguez ...sorry
That is Beautiful, but,He *forgot washers* on the Cylinder bolts at 2:30 .. That's a No-No . washers spread out the force and reduce friction for proper torque. I didn't see a Company name or Logo.
it's not meant to have washers my friend, I've spent too long putting these things together, and neither Lycoming or continental ask for washers under the cylinder base nuts, regardless of the type of nut. anything under the nut would only increase the possible of fretting in the case halves which wrecks engines and can cause a seize.
Right, RELIABILITY!, thats why these motors are so expensive (along with liability). You can buy VW beetle motors for aircraft if you want an engine without liability....they cost about $6000 for 70HP or so, after all if the damn thing breaks its hard to pull over and call AAA!
A to tak się robi silniki lotnicze:)
Some of the parts and process look really stone age! (Mishmash of fastener types, and that journal polishing process! Isn't that some kind of osha violation?)
spinnetti ikr fucking push rid cams 😂
Most of aviation is the stone age. The cost to certify new things isn't worth the tiny market for it. Especially in General Aviation.
@@TRC98 Honestly, I wish more "modern" engines were pushrod. Fuck 3-4 hour head gasket swaps.
Actually, truth be known, it's VW engines that look like opposed airplane engines. Porsche used them originally because they were light, already in production and he could get them for a good price.
I noticed that just after I thought they were going to run into problems running that four cylinder engine with a magneto with six high tension leads.
who is this He that does every thing,, seems to be the Jack of all Trades
LOL :D HAHHAA! EPIC! :D
0:46 imagine getting hit in the face our mouth with that
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1920s lawnmower tech
No they don't. The term "magneto" in itself means it is a generator.
0:45 Oh yea..... =-o
oh yeah baby. lol
oooooooo... don't stop!
If ain't Lycoming I ain't flyin!
Why you no like Continental?
+Dane Cook what you no like Franklin, Pratt and Whitney, Jacobs, LeBlonde, Ranger, Rotax, VW, Packard ?
Packard is a Rolls Royce built down to a price instead of up to a standard. Good enough for Mustangs though as much better than Allison's.
oh alright genius
Piston engines? Remarkable? Yea if you're watching this in 1985...
@GKScatalin says 4 a few times. not to mention you can see that there are 4....
It burns! IT BURNS! Aaaah.
wow! i didn't think piston engines were still made for aircrafts...
they were engines that were already built, i was pointing out the engine that they were building.