It's so fitting for that secret passage out of the throne room to be there. You play the game for the first time and when you return, you think, "wow, a convenient back door into the throne room". But it works so well, knowing Kaileena's character: the throne room itself is behind a massive sealed vault door, AND there's a secret time portal hidden behind her throne. She has a means of sealing herself inside, and 2 escape routes if she has to get out.
always knew that the mechanical tower was meant to be the first one the player would visit, this just confirms it further kinda sad that they didn't touch the enemy encounters for the lion sword honestly, makes it almost a stroll if you go water first
indeed, there arent any forced fights in the water tower and 0 brutes. I always go mech tower first just for the challenge now days haha. But yes even in development, mech tower was the first thing to be created. Originally there were actually gonna be 3 towers funnily enough.
@@poptuts i always done the mech tower first because i find it kinda boring and like much the gardens. As well i find the desing of lion sword more cool and find the serpent sword kinda ugly, alongside of the boring mech tower
Has Warrior Withing given me Protanopia that I can't distinguish the color changes of Prince's armor? Great video! Really informative! I really want more Warrior Within videos!
Cool video, I'm still glad people are making videod about PoP trilogy in 2022 Could you maybe do a video showcasing the "dead SoT prince" model in WW? (If you know what I'm talking about, the easter egg of sot prince model dead, with his body decaying)
@@maseehwardak6055 I'm tired of looking through a russian site for it again lol, but basically when u first reach the island of time there are corpses hanged on the beach, and one of those corpses has a modified sot prince model, and through the game you can find different parts of his body. Like his legs and torso etc
Back when I was kid I played prototype version of game and It also didn't had cutscene's. And I played GOG Full version 2 years ago and also few months back I could tell there were difference's but I thought it could be just trick of memories. But I was right I played version that was slightly different than final. I remember 2:47 dying while trying to break boxes cz I used to miss them.
Very interesting. What happens though if you complete only garden tower, so you should have Serpent sword for Kaileena fight and then you couldn't have broken lion sword. How does that work?
The game doesnt care what sword you have before the cutscene. Even if you have water sword it turns into broken lion sword. Lion sword and broken lion sword are counted as different weapons.
Personally, I wished in Pop:WW, the developers should've kept the secondary weapon icon without having a limited stamina when using combos just like in the demo. That way you can either still keep the secondary weapon throughout the whole game without any sense of damaging it while using against the enemy via dual wielding or just throw it like a frisbee.
Sadly no, that is the e3 build from late may. The earliest “build” we have is the ps2 demos dated late august. The e3 build was never made public sadly.
@@poptuts goddamn but how nobody escaped with a disc or something. We need to play it on pcsx2. I believe i saw another demo where you would fight at the clock tower and then dahaka shows up at the end in the same style.
@@LuciaGTAVI665 yes that demo we do have. That demo was actually made after the games release. Its not really that interesting since everything is identical apart from that weird dahaka bit lol
Original Xbox version has the Water Garden bug. ALWAYS DO THE MECH TOWER FIRST. If you do Gardens first, the 4 levers may not come up and doing the Mech Towers won't fix it.
Another thing, hopefully for future remakes/remastered version of Pop series, specifically in the Warrior Within game, can a modder or anyone please add King Sharaman's sword in the mix, I know it was in The Two Thrones, but I don't mind using that sword against the Dahaka in the final boss battle.
This will sound odd, but can you do a compilation video of all the autosave checkpoints in the game? Autosave checkpoints are hidden, in that the game doesnt tell u when they happen, but they can be very useful when u know about them. For example, the Prison checkpoint in the room with the box you must push on the floor button. Or the Library right before the first ladder. Or how every life upgrade i have tried it on makes a checkpoint when u get it so that if u die on your way back, you can just try again without having to do the life upgrade pedestal again. Where did u get access to the prototype?
Not sure if that warrants its own video but i can definitely fit it in with another bigger video like Warrior Within facts, but thats still a while away. Prototype can be accessed from hiddenpalace(dot)com
@@poptuts Have you heard about this cheat? Allegedly, there's a way to become Sandwraith extremely early. This is supposed to work in the warp room you find after having defeated Shahdee in the Sacrificial Altar, the warp room where the Prince "says something is wrong". I'll copy and paste the trick, that I've seen repeated verbatim in multiple websites: "You must run the switches on the wall to make the portal work correctly. Do not run the switches on the wall. Instead, enter the portal as it is and you will switch the time to the present. Save the game, then exit and load the game. You will now be playing as Sandwraith." I have tried to replicate this cheat in my version of the game but it just doesn't work. Specifically, the part where I must "enter the portal as it is". If I don't press the buttons, the portal just doesn't take me to the present. I've looked up videos of that part in other versions (like japanese pcsx2, gamecube), and I don't see the warp portal working there either, at least as indicated by the lack of that sand cloud you see (maybe it works in those versions in spite of the lack of sand cloud). Any input? Am I missing something? This would be a really cool trick if I could do it. I'm using the PS3 HD Trilogy version.
@@babbisp1 im not sure about that specific strategy ive never heard of that. The way to turn into sandwraith is by making the game think you are in a later part of the game. Warrior within works on story gates. Since you visit the same areas multiple times, the game has a number running in the background to keep track of where you are in the story. Certain things make that number change drastically such as activating the towers The easiest way to do this is to get to the foundry early. In my “wooden stick to kaileena” video i show how to do this, you will need to learn the zip glitch first which i also made a video on.
I'm confused, my ps2 prince of persia warrior within is combination of final and prototype 😂 but I finished this game countless times wielding water sword
will you play the The Two Thrones prototype? I was using XEMU but i had a lot of glitches on the graphics and it was at 10fps, it seems its only developed until the marketplace.
I am currently editing a Sands of Time prototype video (its very long). However a two thrones video seems impossible at the moment. The only prototype we have is an xbox original prototype build and Xbox emulators are not at the level of ps2 emulators. The two thrones loads but cant be played because of a black screen, Ive tried multiple emulators but its no use. I may get original hardware at some point but its quite an investment to make for a single game lmao.
peoples make videos and stuff about games like half life, golden eye etc so keep making videos on classics like this someone out there appreciates it its me today it could be you tommorow
There is a site called “hidden palace” that has old unreleased tech roms. I cant link it to TH-cam because it is technically piracy and i dont want to risk my channel.
I'm playing this trilogy in my phone with the help of Dolphin emulator...my processor is helio g80 and it runs the game fine... You should give it a try...
after killing kaileena(empress) for the first time, it shows me in throne room but one second later it loaded screen appears and send me to beach without dahaka chase, i dont die after nor meanwhile fighting empress, literally I cant control prince after the fight it pops loading screen and take me directly to beach, I think I have a prototype of the prototype hahahaha
It's a major glitch found only on pirated copies. You cannot progress into the game, unless if you return to throne room and enter the time portal to the sacred caves where the game resume as a sandwraith. To enter time portal in throne room you need to obtain the scorpion sword or water sword to break the wall. Another way is to zip through the wall to teleport you to the other side
@@taroupriapusxp4624 wow thanks i didnt know it you can "escape" from that point, its good to know, I kinda play several different PoP WW through time, when i was a kid always play the corrupt version, later on the normal ones in PS3 and in PS4 with jailbreak i play the game without the rewind power for some reason
@@nicolasvelasco5485 Same in my case I first played this game using a pirated copy and after the battle with Kaileena in the throne room I was also transported to the beach. If you have the water sword (can be obtained before fighting Kaileena), just return to the throne room, break the wall and enter the portal (save first because the game will crash the first time you enter, upon reloading you can enter it). You can progress to the sacred caves and the sandwraith chapter until you finish the game. You will miss the chapters in catacombs, library and prison, but you can revisit these locations by backtracking. After I bought a new CD, the glitch after battle with Kaileena no longer appear. You appear on the beach, the dahaka attack you and you escape to the catacombs where the game continues.
@@nicolasvelasco5485 Same in my case I first played this game using a pirated copy and after the battle with Kaileena in the throne room I was also transported to the beach. If you have the water sword (can be obtained before fighting Kaileena), just return to the throne room, break the wall and enter the portal (save first because the game will crash the first time you enter, upon reloading you can enter it). You can progress to the sacred caves and the sandwraith chapter until you finish the game. You will miss the chapters in catacombs, library and prison, but you can revisit these locations by backtracking. After I bought a new CD, the glitch after battle with Kaileena no longer appear. You appear on the beach, the dahaka attack you and you escape to the catacombs where the game continues.
You have to remember that the prototypes were for the PS2 primarily... It's kinda funny that the prototype (not sure if it was the Oct 27th or Oct 25th build?) was distributed as a "bootleg" PS2 version... It would soft lock after the first Kaileena fight where the Dahaka chase never happens... It also has the enemy and trap layout mentioned in this video...
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It's so fitting for that secret passage out of the throne room to be there. You play the game for the first time and when you return, you think, "wow, a convenient back door into the throne room". But it works so well, knowing Kaileena's character: the throne room itself is behind a massive sealed vault door, AND there's a secret time portal hidden behind her throne. She has a means of sealing herself inside, and 2 escape routes if she has to get out.
I love this game and I appreciate your research!
Thank you sir!. I love this game too
Oh hey. I wrote these differences as a text in hidden palace. Good to see it in video format.
Sorry if i didnt give credit, I honestly didnt know who wrote it. Ill make sure to include it in the description :)
But honestly most of the differences were my own observations.
@@poptuts yeah don't worry about credit, I was just relishing my memories.
always knew that the mechanical tower was meant to be the first one the player would visit, this just confirms it further
kinda sad that they didn't touch the enemy encounters for the lion sword honestly, makes it almost a stroll if you go water first
indeed, there arent any forced fights in the water tower and 0 brutes. I always go mech tower first just for the challenge now days haha. But yes even in development, mech tower was the first thing to be created. Originally there were actually gonna be 3 towers funnily enough.
@@poptutsIs There any concept arts that can hint us what will be the element of the third tower?
@@leoyoung1478 None, it was probably cut very very early.
@@poptuts i always done the mech tower first because i find it kinda boring and like much the gardens. As well i find the desing of lion sword more cool and find the serpent sword kinda ugly, alongside of the boring mech tower
@@poptuts Honestly wanted to know what was the purpose of the 3rd tower anyway
So this means I played both the prototype and the final build
Has Warrior Withing given me Protanopia that I can't distinguish the color changes of Prince's armor?
Great video! Really informative! I really want more Warrior Within videos!
Thank you. His chest piece had slightly lighter silver, but thats about it to be honest.
I stop watching on the moment when you say: "this video is useless". You saved my time. Thank you very much.
Cool video, I'm still glad people are making videod about PoP trilogy in 2022
Could you maybe do a video showcasing the "dead SoT prince" model in WW?
(If you know what I'm talking about, the easter egg of sot prince model dead, with his body decaying)
I will check it out, ive never heard of that.
@@poptuts you can find info about it on the kindred blades VK
@@shunkun8668 If you could send a link that would be useful, I can't seem to find any info.
What?
Coudnt find anything about it
@@maseehwardak6055 I'm tired of looking through a russian site for it again lol, but basically when u first reach the island of time there are corpses hanged on the beach, and one of those corpses has a modified sot prince model, and through the game you can find different parts of his body. Like his legs and torso etc
Back when I was kid I played prototype version of game and It also didn't had cutscene's. And I played GOG Full version 2 years ago and also few months back I could tell there were difference's but I thought it could be just trick of memories. But I was right I played version that was slightly different than final. I remember 2:47 dying while trying to break boxes cz I used to miss them.
Great video! i'm a big fan of these little discoveries and oddities
Thank you, so am I haha.
The way you tied the music vocals with "hi all" at 0:00 just broke me XD
Im gonna say that was definitely intentional 😂😂
Imagine Kaileena having to wallrun, jump, climb the ledges and pull the lever every time she goes to the hall and back to the throne room
Very in-depth whoa
Thank you 🙏
Very interesting. What happens though if you complete only garden tower, so you should have Serpent sword for Kaileena fight and then you couldn't have broken lion sword. How does that work?
The game doesnt care what sword you have before the cutscene. Even if you have water sword it turns into broken lion sword. Lion sword and broken lion sword are counted as different weapons.
Personally, I wished in Pop:WW, the developers should've kept the secondary weapon icon without having a limited stamina when using combos just like in the demo.
That way you can either still keep the secondary weapon throughout the whole game without any sense of damaging it while using against the enemy via dual wielding or just throw it like a frisbee.
Can you find this demo anywhere : th-cam.com/video/VIVHZfcuGFQ/w-d-xo.html
Sadly no, that is the e3 build from late may. The earliest “build” we have is the ps2 demos dated late august. The e3 build was never made public sadly.
@@poptuts goddamn but how nobody escaped with a disc or something. We need to play it on pcsx2. I believe i saw another demo where you would fight at the clock tower and then dahaka shows up at the end in the same style.
@@LuciaGTAVI665 yes that demo we do have. That demo was actually made after the games release. Its not really that interesting since everything is identical apart from that weird dahaka bit lol
@@poptuts The E4 2004 gameplay made my horror dream come true. Dahaka walked straight through to the portal room.
@@LuciaGTAVI665 bypassed the water💦 🌊
Original Xbox version has the Water Garden bug. ALWAYS DO THE MECH TOWER FIRST. If you do Gardens first, the 4 levers may not come up and doing the Mech Towers won't fix it.
So the final game also has this bug? I never knew that
@@poptuts The Original Xbox versions does. Don't know about the PS2 or the PS3 versions.
@@robrick9361 I don't think the PS2 had the glitch since I remembr doing the Garden first and there was no issue.
Some things in Prototype should be in the final build like, prince armor reflex
The demos actually had some interesting things removed that I liked.
Or, the absence hourglass door
Another thing, hopefully for future remakes/remastered version of Pop series, specifically in the Warrior Within game, can a modder or anyone please add King Sharaman's sword in the mix, I know it was in The Two Thrones, but I don't mind using that sword against the Dahaka in the final boss battle.
This will sound odd, but can you do a compilation video of all the autosave checkpoints in the game? Autosave checkpoints are hidden, in that the game doesnt tell u when they happen, but they can be very useful when u know about them.
For example, the Prison checkpoint in the room with the box you must push on the floor button.
Or the Library right before the first ladder.
Or how every life upgrade i have tried it on makes a checkpoint when u get it so that if u die on your way back, you can just try again without having to do the life upgrade pedestal again.
Where did u get access to the prototype?
Not sure if that warrants its own video but i can definitely fit it in with another bigger video like Warrior Within facts, but thats still a while away.
Prototype can be accessed from hiddenpalace(dot)com
@@poptuts
Have you heard about this cheat? Allegedly, there's a way to become Sandwraith extremely early. This is supposed to work in the warp room you find after having defeated Shahdee in the Sacrificial Altar, the warp room where the Prince "says something is wrong".
I'll copy and paste the trick, that I've seen repeated verbatim in multiple websites:
"You must run the switches on the wall to make the portal work correctly. Do not run the switches on the wall. Instead, enter the portal as it is and you will switch the time to the present. Save the game, then exit and load the game. You will now be playing as Sandwraith."
I have tried to replicate this cheat in my version of the game but it just doesn't work. Specifically, the part where I must "enter the portal as it is". If I don't press the buttons, the portal just doesn't take me to the present. I've looked up videos of that part in other versions (like japanese pcsx2, gamecube), and I don't see the warp portal working there either, at least as indicated by the lack of that sand cloud you see (maybe it works in those versions in spite of the lack of sand cloud).
Any input? Am I missing something? This would be a really cool trick if I could do it. I'm using the PS3 HD Trilogy version.
@@babbisp1 im not sure about that specific strategy ive never heard of that. The way to turn into sandwraith is by making the game think you are in a later part of the game. Warrior within works on story gates. Since you visit the same areas multiple times, the game has a number running in the background to keep track of where you are in the story. Certain things make that number change drastically such as activating the towers
The easiest way to do this is to get to the foundry early. In my “wooden stick to kaileena” video i show how to do this, you will need to learn the zip glitch first which i also made a video on.
@@poptuts
That looks pretty hard. I was really hoping this warp room thing would work as a kind of secret feature.
Amazing work
I'm confused, my ps2 prince of persia warrior within is combination of final and prototype 😂 but I finished this game countless times wielding water sword
That cutscene glitched happened with me too in psp port
will you play the The Two Thrones prototype? I was using XEMU but i had a lot of glitches on the graphics and it was at 10fps, it seems its only developed until the marketplace.
I also have issues with xemu. Once i get an original xbox, i will defo work on that video, it might take some time tho.
Does anyone have this version of the prince? If you have it, can you post it please?
Great work man 👏
Thank you 🙏
Does prince in prototype have NORMAL teeth?
Nope, he is still missing his teeth in the prototype. Which is strange because his texture has teeth on it.
@@poptuts (((
Bro how to increase that sand numbers like shown on the prototype i cant increase it from 3
Dude i love this game an idk why but i would love to see final build and prototype of two thrones
I am currently editing a Sands of Time prototype video (its very long). However a two thrones video seems impossible at the moment. The only prototype we have is an xbox original prototype build and Xbox emulators are not at the level of ps2 emulators. The two thrones loads but cant be played because of a black screen, Ive tried multiple emulators but its no use. I may get original hardware at some point but its quite an investment to make for a single game lmao.
the prototype for t2t was kindred blades
Great research! I love WW!!
I hope they remake WW after Sands of Time :)
Thank you so much!
Remake of WW would be amazing. I really hope SOT Remake does well so ubisoft funds another project
@@poptuts I genuinely hope they don't botch it like they botched SoT...
@@onyx9943 To be fair we havent seen any development progress since like a year ago. Maybe they fixed it (famous last words)
No. Stop with the silly remakes.
Nice video, dude
Thank you!
How can I download this prototype version
Hiddenpalace(dot)com search for warrior within 25 October prototype. Not 27 October since that one does not work properly.
@@poptuts is this for pc?? Thx😃😃
@@its_vertigo you need to emulate using pcsx2.
@@poptuts it's working on mobile also with AetherSX 2
@@its_vertigo oh yeah i forgot, hopefully it runs well because even on PCSX2 these prototypes can lag. Mostly the Sands of Time one
It would be so good if you make video on kindred blades... Hope you will reply me..
Its in the works, the video will take a long time to make however, there is much to talk about.
@@poptuts I'm waiting buddy... Subscribed
peoples make videos and stuff about games like half life, golden eye etc so keep making videos on classics like this someone out there appreciates it its me today it could be you tommorow
I will keep making pop content. We cant let such an amazing franchise die
Amazing
AMAZING game!
Good video bro
Thx bro
who wants this game remake ..
Would be cool, need to see what they do with the SOT Remake first tho.
how to get the game any link
There is a site called “hidden palace” that has old unreleased tech roms. I cant link it to TH-cam because it is technically piracy and i dont want to risk my channel.
keep it up
Thank you!
Will this work on Android phones??
It should do. I dunno how android will handle the frame drops, even my PC couldnt handle some areas well.
I'm playing this trilogy in my phone with the help of Dolphin emulator...my processor is helio g80 and it runs the game fine... You should give it a try...
nice video.
Thanks!
after killing kaileena(empress) for the first time, it shows me in throne room but one second later it loaded screen appears and send me to beach without dahaka chase, i dont die after nor meanwhile fighting empress, literally I cant control prince after the fight it pops loading screen and take me directly to beach, I think I have a prototype of the prototype hahahaha
It's a major glitch found only on pirated copies. You cannot progress into the game, unless if you return to throne room and enter the time portal to the sacred caves where the game resume as a sandwraith.
To enter time portal in throne room you need to obtain the scorpion sword or water sword to break the wall. Another way is to zip through the wall to teleport you to the other side
@@taroupriapusxp4624 wow thanks i didnt know it you can "escape" from that point, its good to know, I kinda play several different PoP WW through time, when i was a kid always play the corrupt version, later on the normal ones in PS3 and in PS4 with jailbreak i play the game without the rewind power for some reason
@@nicolasvelasco5485
Same in my case
I first played this game using a pirated copy and after the battle with Kaileena in the throne room I was also transported to the beach. If you have the water sword (can be obtained before fighting Kaileena), just return to the throne room, break the wall and enter the portal (save first because the game will crash the first time you enter, upon reloading you can enter it). You can progress to the sacred caves and the sandwraith chapter until you finish the game. You will miss the chapters in catacombs, library and prison, but you can revisit these locations by backtracking.
After I bought a new CD, the glitch after battle with Kaileena no longer appear. You appear on the beach, the dahaka attack you and you escape to the catacombs where the game continues.
@@nicolasvelasco5485 Same in my case
I first played this game using a pirated copy and after the battle with Kaileena in the throne room I was also transported to the beach. If you have the water sword (can be obtained before fighting Kaileena), just return to the throne room, break the wall and enter the portal (save first because the game will crash the first time you enter, upon reloading you can enter it). You can progress to the sacred caves and the sandwraith chapter until you finish the game. You will miss the chapters in catacombs, library and prison, but you can revisit these locations by backtracking.
After I bought a new CD, the glitch after battle with Kaileena no longer appear. You appear on the beach, the dahaka attack you and you escape to the catacombs where the game continues.
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It's not prototype, it's beta
Prototype coloring and environment looks better than final
Honestly that might just be my warrior within settings on pc.
You have to remember that the prototypes were for the PS2 primarily...
It's kinda funny that the prototype (not sure if it was the Oct 27th or Oct 25th build?) was distributed as a "bootleg" PS2 version... It would soft lock after the first Kaileena fight where the Dahaka chase never happens... It also has the enemy and trap layout mentioned in this video...
@@onyx9943 I was running the Oct 25th build which had no issues except the lack of a Dahaka fight.