I’ve had 2 members of my family take their own lives. It is nothing to be glamorized . The pain they must have been going through in silence they suffered. We must not let mental illness be stigmatized any longer. Enough is enough!
My sister who doesn’t live in the same state as me has stigma against me because of my mental health; Major Depression, Anxiety and Borderline Personality Disorder. She said she loves me from a far? I’m not normal? And she doesn’t owe me anything? I don’t know how she can be so cruel, selfish and mean? It’s all bs and abuse. I said it’s unwarranted and I don’t deserve that. Nothing I say matters to her. She’ll never change and she’s missing out on being my sister and close to me and having a good relationship with me her sister. She judges me, belittles and insults me and I don’t have the energy and just want peace and not waste my time on her. Myself, my husband and our 3 cats are my priorities, not her.
My sister who doesn’t live in the same state as me has stigma against me because of my mental health; Major Depression, Anxiety and Borderline Personality Disorder. She said she loves me from a far? I’m not normal? And she doesn’t owe me anything? I don’t know how she can be so cruel, selfish and mean? It’s all bs and abuse. I said it’s unwarranted and I don’t deserve that. Nothing I say matters to her. She’ll never change and she’s missing out on being my sister and close to me and having a good relationship with me her sister. She judges me, belittles and insults me and I don’t have the energy and just want peace and not waste my time on her. Myself, my husband and our 3 cats are my priorities, not her.
This short was written very well. The boy who appeared to have everything was missing the most important thing and that was someone who cared. His parents ignored all the signs, even when they were staring them right in the face. I just wish they hadn't written in the part about his brother. There is still a misconception today that people need a reason to be depressed. The reality is that it can happen to anyone
This is a hard subject and my condolences to those who have been affected by it. Along with Out of Step, these is one of my favorites. We really need to listen to one another. I know someone who took his life and I didn't know he was suffering. My heart goes out to his family.
During the 1970's and 1980's they also had night time movies of the week on ABC Channel 7. I think it was every Monday night at 8 p.m in Los Angeles. These were movies that were for TV and not movies that were ever at movie theaters. I used to watch these every Monday night from 8 p.m. to 10 p.m. A lot of great made for TV movies!
As a suicide survivor.people need to wake the F up and just listen and not judge what you don't understand.if you have a broken arm how fast the doctors are to fix it.But God forbid you tell someone you have a mental illness they tell you get over it,take a pill ,pray to God, Tom will be better.
My youngest son who is 28 years old came to me About 6 plus months ago & told me that he was feeling the same way as these 2 you young kids were feeling he said that he tried to talk to his wife about how he’s has been feeling he said that she called him a pu..sy & she wanted a divorce this sent my son over the edge they had a 3 year old daughter his wife told him that she doesn’t want to be a mother anymore or a wife so as of now my son & my granddaughter has been living with me for 6 or so many months now it has been so hard on me with my son crying in my arms saying that he doesn’t want to live anymore it got to the point that I was afraid to go to sleep for days at a time but thankfully he got the help that he needed sometimes he still cries because he doesn’t understand why his wife would turn hir back on him but especially their daughter so from 1 parents to another 1 please pay attention to what your child is going through if you think that they need help or even if you think they don’t then found them help please because 1day it might be to late ty for listening to my story
I just said a prayer for you. I asked the lord to calm his heart and head…giving him the peace he needs to heal and move on. I found the Lord when I couldn’t carry the weight of the world anymore and He saved me. I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t have Him.❤ 🙏✝️❤️✌️
Well someday he will see that she didn't deserve him in the first place. I know it doesn't seem that way now to him, but if he will just hang in there, one day he will look back and be glad she's gone. I've been through heartache, and major depression, and it does get better.
@@missymarie2698 Amen. My Lord Jesus has delivered and saved me from suicidal depression and a host of other issues and sinful addictions years ago, too! He saves everyone who comes to Him. I hope and pray that everybody who’s feeling the same way will get to to meet God and be saved, instead of believing and following the lies of the devil! Lord Jesus have mercy on all these young souls all over the world! I pray that all of them get saved and find eternal peace and joy in Christ Jesus - the holy God of Israel!!! Amen.
@@HEAVENBOUND267 Obviously, he doesn’t know the Lord! Duh 😒 How can you trust someone you don’t know even exists?!?!?! I didn’t know the Lord Jesus and suffered and lived in hell for over 15 years, until God finally called me and gave me repentance, when I was ready for another suicide attempt. So if you are a Christian, then instead of criticizing, we must pray that the Lord miraculously show himself and his truth and his love to this poor soul soul as soon as possible! God knows how exactly to approach every soul. We just need to intercede for this poor young man and ask for God‘s mercy and salvation for him, his daughter and his family!!! In Jesus holy name. Amen.
my youngest jumped in front of a car just over 2 weeks ago, thank god he is ok, hes in a neck brace for 2 months as he had a rare break in his neck . he has been depressed for months , but I didnt realise how bad he was. I just hope he gets the help he needs . Im trying my hardest to help him, but Im on the edge with worrying about him , whether he will do it again , as he told me he had been planning it for weeks .
@@robinwagner3293 exactly! The were so focused on wanting him to follow in his brother's footsteps that they weren't allowing much room for David to make his own decisions about what he wanted to do with his life.
Shadows Pond How blessed are you to know Lee Harcourt Montgomery. If my memory serves me, he also starred in the sequel to 'Williard'--'Ben', and his siter is Belinda J. Montgomery, right?
This was so sad. The speech at the end was so riveting. Thank you for sharing this. I hope it might save some lives. So many ignore the signs that someone may be thinking about taking their own life. We need to pay attention and get them the help they need. God Bless You & stay safe.
Oh, I haven't seen this movie in years. Thanks for posting it. It shows that people become uncomfortable if others express their feelings, and they become uncomfortable when they do not. Talking to someone who could really help-- a professional--when someone is depressed and considering suicide is always a good thing. I think that Craig's family had it right when they told him. "I love you and I'm here."
David's parents were so oblivious of the fact that he was suffering. His teacher seemed to be more concerned for him than his parents. I remember watching this episode when it aired and how much it deeply affected me especially being a teenager in high school at the time going through my own personal issues. Thank you for the upload!
Yes, and people think it was David who was selfish for killing himself when it was his parents who were selfish for forcing him to be the second attempt at their expectations for their first child. And manipulating him into believing he killed the first child is disgusting. David’s parents were extremely manipulative and resolutely oblivious to him. Often when a teen attempts or dies by suicide, there are a lot of selfish or inattentive adults in the picture. Even when the adults are paying attention and doing their best, the teen is sick. Sometimes mental illness cannot be understood or managed. This process is complicated and ongoing. And yes, I AM a licensed mental health professional.
Both protagonists had suicidal thoughts because of a (step)sibling and (step)sibling rivalry. Both thought that they could not match up to their respective (step)brother and craved for their parent(s) in question to love them for who they were.
Bibi Besch played an unemotional non-maternal mother about ten years later in “Doing Time on Maple Drive.” She’s 42 in 1984 and looks and sounds late 50’s.
The lady who played Lee Montgomery's mother in this was the real-life mother of actress Samantha Mathis. This is such a sad story. It reminds us to pay attention to the warning signs that someone is contemplating suicide. This tragedy could have been prevented. David's parents should not have wanted David to do everything they wanted his deceased brother to do. His girlfriend wasn't very understanding, either. Sadly, no one really got that he needed someone to talk to. If they had gotten it, the tragedy could have been prevented.
I recognized Lee Montgomery before I even pushed on the video. I always liked him in Girls Just Wanna Have Fun with Sarah Jessica Parker and Shannen Doherty
10:10 "David, you're going to be 16 next week". Actually actor Lee Montgomery was 22 when this was filmed. 25:00 "Remember to take your new license". So he magically has his license on his 16th birthday; did the DMV beam it into his pocket?
One of the reasons why I prefer looking at stuff from the early 2000s and before is that the producers weren't so afraid of offending people for silly reasons, like the mother (a female) being clueless (which ironically people see today as sexist although they do that to men all the time). Therefore they not only had much more creative freedom, but more often the best writers/producers were chosen without their "morality" being taken into account.
Suicide is not sick or selfish!!! Hate people that think that way! That is just ignorance.....sucidal people are in extreme pain and want to end it and there is nothing selfish about wanting to end one's pain....it's selfish for suicidal people to live because folks want them too....that lady makes me mad-just another ignorant person not knowing that young man's pain!
this is selfishness, because people who loved a suicide will experience excruciating pain for the rest of their lives. Suicide is not an option or a solution to problems. often a difficult period passes and better times come. Or a person comes to a vivid realization of how he can become happy and it is not so difficult.
@@jus5240 Another complete stranger with a totaly ignorant comment knowing NOTHING about a sucidal person living with already excrusiating pain.!!!..it's the person living in extreme pain who experiences suffering that does not commit suicide that is cruel!! Suicide IS the solution to excrusiating pain...and some problems ARE permanent and will end with suicide...the problem is many suicidal people dont end their lives because the physical pain of going through with it is just so great it scares them to go through with it. It is SELFISH for others to want a sucicidal person to live in excrusiating pain just to make them happy.
@jus5240 What if better times never come? What if they're constantly in physical pain and they can't take it anymore? What if they are feeling unloved or unwanted and alone? The living will continue to live. Those that don't want to continue to live should not feel forced to go on out of guilt.
@@abinashmishra329 Why don't you be grateful for the free content here? It's not tainlor's fault that those scenes were accidentally erased from the 30-year old tape.You should think about not being so entitled.
I think as cheesy as these were they were good for starting a conversation with your children and maybe made it a little easier for them to broach a conversation with their parents especially if the kids didn’t know how to start a tough /uncomfortable conversation those of us who grew up in the 80’s grew up with a lot of parents who were perfectly happy to shelve the tough topics 😢😢💔
This really hits home for me My cousin committed suicide and it is not the same ever since . It’s very sad and devastating . I try not to blame myself for what happened and I have forgiven her because I know it wasn’t her intent to take her own life . I miss her every day . Suicide is nothing to be glamorized and definitely not something to take lightly and not to joke about ❤️❤️❤️❤️😢😢😢😢😢
Mean and hurtful and harmful and hateful and disrespectful and disgusting and distracting and disturbing and satanic rumors can 🥫 really hurt 🤕😷 people in general! 24:24
My Best Friend committed suicide when I was 16, and she was 18; My stupid phone stopped working, and I see where she called me, and I didn't hear from her, and told my use to be childhood Best Friend, and she told me she **'d on Ibuprofen, and OMG, I lost it, I screamed, hollared, and blamed myself; My Nurse Practitioner told me I wasn't my fault, and I shouldn't beat myself up about it, and etc, and I was a good friend, she was sick, and needed help. Yeah, his parents disgust me for not listening, and how his parents talk to him now I see why he didn't want to be around...UGH... ANNOYING...
I deal with 2 death i lost my mom n 2017 to cancer. We were not bff but she love me n that was my mom. I lost my bff n 2019 she was my sec my mom. I live n crazy neighborhood n the apartment is nightmare n landlord is clueless n no help n the outside n inside is out of control smh. Just bad. The job is just bad. I deal with haters and nepotism. The girl that just came on board recently smh. I am learning that she may be my new manager n she is awful n rude. Bad enough the i have x coworkers i have deal who r just devils . So i understand about not wanting to be around smh. But there a better way. I keep praying n praying smh. U can't let thoughts get n your mind.❤
The guy who played David kinda reminds me of Joey Lawrence yet he was probably working on Gimme a Break when this after school special came out at the time.
I had a cousin that did it In fact he came to my house and asked me how I was coping with the split of my husband and I.. He was a reck.. I took it very hard..I could see how much he was hurting..I did the best I could.. never showed he was giving up..I hurt myself When I heard what happened..💔💔💔💔... All the sadness to the family and friends..it's something you never get over.. I just couldn't do anything like that to my parents other.. So anyone out there.. speak up..ask for help..💔💔💔
I had a cousin, she took away her owon life at 27 years old. And my sister said twice she was going to kill herself, because she had a broken heart. Wirde she does have those suicidal toughts. It is sad.
It's interesting this episode pops up as the news of singer Sinead O'Connor came out this week .the disrespectful disgusting heartless comments 😔, I actually unfollowed someone on tik tok because he made some very rude comments about someone that succomed to suicide .
Parents are Soo blind! Craig...with reason..is jealous! His father has no time for him but enough for the other! Movie or real life of Arents need to wake up! See the signs!
The guy who killed himself is the guy who was one of Michael J. Fox's womanizing friends Justine Bateman left a party with in the 2nd episode of Family Ties and his dad is the guy who tried to seduce Justine Bateman in the 6th episode of Family Ties.
I saw this in high school in 2007. The parents only saw their sons for what they could do. One set paid the price for it, and the other set got a major wake up call.
Donahue reminds me of mary tyler moore in ordinary people.she's being such a beeep just like moore .moore wantes to stuff down what happened to their son while sutherland and hutton wanna talk about to be able to grieve as a family so she leaves them .
These after school specials deal with everyday problems people have to deal with in real life. This episode it sad young guy commit suicide. If person feeling depress they should talk to therapist to deal with their depression.🎥😢
I have a niece who sometimes posts things on suicide on FB. That kid needs a shrink, she's also in a toxic relationship, her boyfriend beats up on her, and she even had a daughter by him
They hurt their friends, families, committing suicide is very selfish and leads to Hell, nothing but the Devil telling them to commit suicide. Call the suicide prevention hotline. If you know someone who is suicidal and tells you not to tell or Lose a friend, tell anyway, call suicide prevention hotline, call the police. Tell your friend's parents. If your friend gets angry at you for telling others he or she is about to commit suicide, let your friend get angry at you, Better to lose a friendship than to lose friend.
@@nataliegillmore7436 Suicide does NOT lead to hell!!!! Some people still alive are living in extreme pain with some problem and that is HELL--a state of extreme agony and torment is hell....commiting suicide will end the pain and bring the person to heaven...I go to church and I know better that HELL is not a place of fire and screaming.......the bible description of hell is made up!!! Extreme fire can be the same as extreme pain from a disability!
FU! It is about their pain and that they feel there is no way out of that pain. It is about their pain and not the others. Stop trying to put more guilt on those in pain.
Kelly Dube... That's Cause He Is Really In His Early Twenties They Used To Do That All The Time Have People Who Were Actually Older Than They Look Play Teenagers.
I don't know why this was such an epidemic drain the 80s and 90s when young men were killing themselves but living through those times and seeing the difference in the 2020 I absolutely understand the struggle that young men were going through . Demonization of masculinity and the push to feminized men cause a lot of confusion in our generation and it really hasn't gotten better .
"the boy with everything to live for." That line right there just goes to show that people just don't understand depression. You can have everything in the world to live for, the perfect home the perfect life, as much money as you want, but that does not fix physiological issues in your brain. A chemical imbalance doesn't care how much money you have or how happy you should be. You can have every reason to be happy, but if you are lacking in vital chemicals and necessary hormones, the depression will come, and it will take hold, no matter how great your life is. It's not a choice, and you can't choose not to have it. You can't just snap out of it, and you can't just decide to be happy. You have to get medication that fixes the chemical imbalance or nothing is enough to make you happy. And, depression isn't always the result of an upsetting event or circumstances. It can come out of nowhere, for no reason, if your brain and it's chemicals aren't functioning properly. If you're loved one is dealing with this and can't help themselves, then you need to force them to get help. My family cared enough to force me, and it probably saved my life. Be that person for your loved one.
I use to watch all this series why cn’t they bring serious series with different true cases. So these teenagers can see what r the outcome of it positive or negative.
This episode of afterschool special was very sad two teenager suffer from mental illness and one of them commit suicide. The parents should listen to their son teacher she told them their son was depress and he need to see Psychologist. If parents gave their son attention and love him then he wouldn't commit suicide. I like afterschool school show it deal with everyday problems people have to deal with in real life.😢
Just think, back when these were made we never dreamed we'd be having to worry about students and teachers getting shot to death in schools. Couldn't even have fathomed it. What has happened to society? Where did we all go wrong
It's "Michael" from ET.....Robert McNaughton!!! Maybe it was an elf or a Leprechaun!!! Mary, can I back the car out!!!! Henry Thomas aka Elliot and Dee Wallace and Drew Barrymore should have been in this!!!
I've actually been working on a story that deals with the topic of teenage suicide for a few years. The story is told from a Christian perspective. It is about a Christian family that becomes dysfunctional when their parents begin to neglect their eighteen-year-old son and eleven-year-old daughter. The teenager dotes on his younger sister and assumes many of the parental responsibilities, but he is dealing with personal problems. After he and his manipulative girlfriend break up, his academic performance and his performance on his school's track team begin to suffer. This angers his parents, because he is on his way to going to Princeton on a track scholarship. The young man is praying every night that Jesus Christ will take his soul while he sleeps, but when this doesn't happen, he decides that he wants to take matters into his own hands by killing himself! With the help of the love of Jesus Christ and the love of his little sister, however, he decides he wants to live.
People who have never suffered depression just don't get it. It's not something you can just snap out of, or choose not to have. The worst thing you can do to someone with depression is to tell them to snap out of it or tell them they have no reason to be depressed.. That's not the way it works. It's a chemical imbalance, and your life could be absolutely perfect and it will not fix physiological problems. Back when I was in the throes of depression my mother used to say that my kids should be enough to make me happy, and not only did that not help, it added on a layer of guilt on top of it. It's not a choice, it's a disease, and it's not something that you can choose not to have. Just as you can't choose not to have cancer. It's a physiological condition in your brain for which you have no control over. Depression can come out of nowhere, for no reason. It doesn't always have to be brought on by some traumatic event or bad circumstance. I had everything I needed in my life to make me happy, I have no past trauma, but it hit me like a train out of nowhere. If you know where love someone who is dealing with depression, educate yourself. Talk to a professional or even just do a Google search on how to handle someone with depression. Because you can make things a thousand times worse with just your words, or lack of understanding. I am better now, thanks to having family who cared about me enough to force me to go get help. Sometimes that's what it takes. Be that person for your loved one. I recognized the symptoms in my son and I made him go to the doctor, and he is so much better now. Again, this is not a choice or something that we can just decide not to have. It's not a bid for attention, and it is very real.
When people are having mental pain it’s disregarded bc it can’t be seen or touched, it’s not tangible so those who have not experienced long term ongoing chronic mental pain and trauma the suffering becomes that of a terminal illness that can’t be cured with meds therapy love or anything else it’s literally terminal and when someone endures such conditions long term and they don’t take their life they often live a very long slow excruciating painful death riddled with true tangible illness such as cancer heart disease and a host of other deadly chronic diseases due to the environmental factor of long term undue extreme mental duress and I do mean extreme, as much as I disagree with people who disagree with suicide because suicide is not selfish suicide is also not an answer to short term problems or highly complex moderately extended term problems either. There are always going to be a certain percentage of people who did make that snap decision to take their life and they would have regretted it had they not done it however there is a certain percentage of people who are terminally mentally ill and they cannot live like this they can’t do it, mental illness causes physical disability, and it’s not that person’s fault does not come down to them choosing to be that way, and I firmly have to believe that the majority of people who are not compassionate to this and who do not empathize with this or sympathize with this, just can’t because they’ve never experienced it themselves or and it’s never been something that has been experienced close enough to their own home that it actually hits them a certain way. I have lost many people to suicide and I have never not once been angry at them for what they have done. I myself have absolutely considered it as an option, but I also chose not to because I wasn’t in the same type of pain or duress that some other people are but had some things not dramatically changed for me and they were things that were beyond my control. It took assistance from another person, and it took a lot of time a lot of love and a lot more patience than the majority of anyone has I mean seriously it took a saint to bring me back from the ledge having known how I felt and having known why I considered it when I considered it and having come out on the other side of choosing not to actually do it, I do not disagree with the fact that some people don’t have any other options and there is no way to find peace and for anybody to not want another person to have peace is utterly selfish and there isn’t an excuse or an explanation for that. This is also why the most series of the series people do not leave signs because they don’t want to be stopped so if you ever encounter a situation where there weren’t even any signs really to see that really solidify inside of your heart and soul that that to think or wish for them to not have chosen suicide to find peace that they now have attained they are resting in peace , is a sin on behalf of oneself because you’re wishing for them to continue to endure, ongoing suffering and pain that nobody wants to willfully do. Just know that if it was a surprise that needed to happen and there wasn’t anything that could’ve changed it or could’ve stopped they could not be helped and it wouldn’t have been right to even stop them because they deserve to find peace everybody deserves to find peace. Anytime I think that I catch myself wishing that my loved ones were still here, I immediately catch myself and I don’t get sad and I don’t cry because I remember to myself. No they can’t be here. They could not have continued to live the way that they were living. I wouldn’t want them to be here in that state and that’s the only state that they were in that’s the only state that they could be in, so if that’s the only state that they could be in, then I’m happy that they have found peace, and I’m at peace with their choice to choose to do suicide to find it.
The wanna be psychologist woman should not have been talking to the reporter lady like that! She needed to keep her mouth shut at the end just as that boys parents told her to!
OD'd on ibuprofen? 🤔 You're either mistaken, or perhaps you weren't given the correct details, because you can't overdose on ibuprofen and die. It can make you extremely sick, and can lead to liver and kidney function issues that could end up being a contributing factor in death months or years down the road, but it's just not possible to take too much ibuprofen and immediately expire. I'm a deputy coroner, and former doctor of EM, and that just is not possible. If you do indeed have a friend who took their own life, I'm sorry for your loss.
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I’ve had 2 members of my family take their own lives. It is nothing to be glamorized . The pain they must have been going through in silence they suffered. We must not let mental illness be stigmatized any longer. Enough is enough!
Soo sorry for your losses😰
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Two sisters, a best friend, a favourite uncle, a damaged cousin…. all suicided. So much damage. 4:14 4:16
My sister who doesn’t live in the same state as me has stigma against me because of my mental health; Major Depression, Anxiety and Borderline Personality Disorder. She said she loves me from a far? I’m not normal? And she doesn’t owe me anything? I don’t know how she can be so cruel, selfish and mean? It’s all bs and abuse. I said it’s unwarranted and I don’t deserve that. Nothing I say matters to her. She’ll never change and she’s missing out on being my sister and close to me and having a good relationship with me her sister. She judges me, belittles and insults me and I don’t have the energy and just want peace and not waste my time on her. Myself, my husband and our 3 cats are my priorities, not her.
My sister who doesn’t live in the same state as me has stigma against me because of my mental health; Major Depression, Anxiety and Borderline Personality Disorder. She said she loves me from a far? I’m not normal? And she doesn’t owe me anything? I don’t know how she can be so cruel, selfish and mean? It’s all bs and abuse. I said it’s unwarranted and I don’t deserve that. Nothing I say matters to her. She’ll never change and she’s missing out on being my sister and close to me and having a good relationship with me her sister. She judges me, belittles and insults me and I don’t have the energy and just want peace and not waste my time on her. Myself, my husband and our 3 cats are my priorities, not her.
This short was written very well. The boy who appeared to have everything was missing the most important thing and that was someone who cared. His parents ignored all the signs, even when they were staring them right in the face.
I just wish they hadn't written in the part about his brother. There is still a misconception today that people need a reason to be depressed. The reality is that it can happen to anyone
This is a hard subject and my condolences to those who have been affected by it. Along with Out of Step, these is one of my favorites. We really need to listen to one another. I know someone who took his life and I didn't know he was suffering. My heart goes out to his family.
That's such a good point.
This was really good, thanks. I love these 70s and 80s afterschool special types so much.
So do I
So do i
During the 1970's and 1980's they also had night time movies of the week on ABC Channel 7. I think it was every Monday night at 8 p.m in Los Angeles.
These were movies that were for TV and not movies that were ever at movie theaters. I used to watch these every Monday night from
8 p.m. to 10 p.m. A lot of great made for TV movies!
I turned 50 recently and still love this stuff. The 70s and 80s are my favorite for TV.
As a suicide survivor.people need to wake the F up and just listen and not judge what you don't understand.if you have a broken arm how fast the doctors are to fix it.But God forbid you tell someone you have a mental illness they tell you get over it,take a pill ,pray to God, Tom will be better.
Pazuzu takes many forms
I'm glad you are still here
My oldest daughter committed suicide in 2022, the pain never goes away😢
I always loved After School Specials in my youth.
I miss these days
@@tarap9924 I loved these Afterschool Specials, and I was already grown when they aired. (Don't figure out my age. LOLOLOL) .
praying for a those who suffer from depression..and mental illness..as an adult still fight against it, and not let it overcome...
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My youngest son who is 28 years old came to me About 6 plus months ago & told me that he was feeling the same way as these 2 you young kids were feeling he said that he tried to talk to his wife about how he’s has been feeling he said that she called him a pu..sy & she wanted a divorce this sent my son over the edge they had a 3 year old daughter his wife told him that she doesn’t want to be a mother anymore or a wife so as of now my son & my granddaughter has been living with me for 6 or so many months now it has been so hard on me with my son crying in my arms saying that he doesn’t want to live anymore it got to the point that I was afraid to go to sleep for days at a time but thankfully he got the help that he needed sometimes he still cries because he doesn’t understand why his wife would turn hir back on him but especially their daughter so from 1 parents to another 1 please pay attention to what your child is going through if you think that they need help or even if you think they don’t then found them help please because 1day it might be to late ty for listening to my story
I just said a prayer for you. I asked the lord to calm his heart and head…giving him the peace he needs to heal and move on.
I found the Lord when I couldn’t carry the weight of the world anymore and He saved me. I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t have Him.❤
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Obviously he puts his trust in people instead of the Lord.
Well someday he will see that she didn't deserve him in the first place. I know it doesn't seem that way now to him, but if he will just hang in there, one day he will look back and be glad she's gone. I've been through heartache, and major depression, and it does get better.
@@missymarie2698
Amen.
My Lord Jesus has delivered and saved me from suicidal depression and a host of other issues and sinful addictions years ago, too!
He saves everyone who comes to Him. I hope and pray that everybody who’s feeling the same way will get to to meet God and be saved, instead of believing and following the lies of the devil!
Lord Jesus have mercy on all these young souls all over the world!
I pray that all of them get saved and find eternal peace and joy in Christ Jesus - the holy God of Israel!!!
Amen.
@@HEAVENBOUND267
Obviously, he doesn’t know the Lord! Duh 😒
How can you trust someone you don’t know even exists?!?!?!
I didn’t know the Lord Jesus and suffered and lived in hell for over 15 years, until God finally called me and gave me repentance, when I was ready for another suicide attempt.
So if you are a Christian, then instead of criticizing, we must pray that the Lord miraculously show himself and his truth and his love to this poor soul soul as soon as possible! God knows how exactly to approach every soul.
We just need to intercede for this poor young man and ask for God‘s mercy and salvation for him, his daughter and his family!!!
In Jesus holy name. Amen.
My son is still devastated about his father's suicide 😢
my youngest jumped in front of a car just over 2 weeks ago, thank god he is ok, hes in a neck brace for 2 months as he had a rare break in his neck . he has been depressed for months , but I didnt realise how bad he was. I just hope he gets the help he needs . Im trying my hardest to help him, but Im on the edge with worrying about him , whether he will do it again , as he told me he had been planning it for weeks .
So sad how the teacher saw his pain more than the parents!
I know, right?. She apparently knew him better than his own parents did.
@@robinwagner3293 exactly! The were so focused on wanting him to follow in his brother's footsteps that they weren't allowing much room for David to make his own decisions about what he wanted to do with his life.
I want to just slap both of his parents to reality. Snobs!
My friend Lee acts in this! Im so glad you posted it!
How cool! Lee has always been one of my favorite actors! I hope he is happy and well. 😸
One of my favourite actors!
Been watching everything I can find with him in it. Some is hard to find.
Big fan. It's a shame he quit acting.
Shadows Pond How blessed are you to know Lee Harcourt Montgomery. If my memory serves me, he also starred in the sequel to 'Williard'--'Ben', and his siter is Belinda J. Montgomery, right?
Riigghhttt.
quit lying.
The curve ball happens in real life. Sometimes the "person with everything to live for" is the one who kills themselves".
Because people just see and admire the outside and not what is actually going on.
@@teijaflink2226 , precisely.
This was so sad. The speech at the end was so riveting. Thank you for sharing this. I hope it might save some lives. So many ignore the signs that someone may be thinking about taking their own life. We need to pay attention and get them the help they need. God Bless You & stay safe.
Elinor Donahue had the BEST career of the child actors who appeared on 'Father Knows Best'.
She is always excellent. I wasn't sure I wanted to watch this, but as soon as I saw her name in the credits, I decided to view the program.
Now that you mention it her voice sounds familiar… Thank you for saying who she is.
Oh, I haven't seen this movie in years. Thanks for posting it. It shows that people become uncomfortable if others express their feelings, and they become uncomfortable when they do not. Talking to someone who could really help-- a professional--when someone is depressed and considering suicide is always a good thing. I think that Craig's family had it right when they told him. "I love you and I'm here."
David's parents were so oblivious of the fact that he was suffering. His teacher seemed to be more concerned for him than his parents.
I remember watching this episode when it aired and how much it deeply affected me especially being a teenager in high school at the time going through my own personal issues.
Thank you for the upload!
“ first you have to tell me whose life plan I’m supposed to be living”
The warning signs were there. The parents, too self-absorbed, or lacked the knowledge-didn’t recognize it.
I grew up on these after school specials you can truly relate ❤
Horrible the way the parents just didn’t even listen to the teacher. She really tried to help them.
And why were they mad at their son's friend in the end?
Yes, and people think it was David who was selfish for killing himself when it was his parents who were selfish for forcing him to be the second attempt at their expectations for their first child. And manipulating him into believing he killed the first child is disgusting. David’s parents were extremely manipulative and resolutely oblivious to him. Often when a teen attempts or dies by suicide, there are a lot of selfish or inattentive adults in the picture. Even when the adults are paying attention and doing their best, the teen is sick. Sometimes mental illness cannot be understood or managed. This process is complicated and ongoing. And yes, I AM a licensed mental health professional.
Both protagonists had suicidal thoughts because of a (step)sibling and (step)sibling rivalry. Both thought that they could not match up to their respective (step)brother and craved for their parent(s) in question to love them for who they were.
@@andrewcolinwilson1 probably thought he encouraged him to do it
@@KQuinn672 I'm sure they didn't mean what they said when they saw him at their son's funeral.
Thank you for sharing this film.
I sometimes wonder what made the guy who did not die change his mind at the last minute
Bibi Besch played an unemotional non-maternal mother about ten years later in “Doing Time on Maple Drive.” She’s 42 in 1984 and looks and sounds late 50’s.
The lady who played Lee Montgomery's mother in this was the real-life mother of actress Samantha Mathis. This is such a sad story. It reminds us to pay attention to the warning signs that someone is contemplating suicide. This tragedy could have been prevented. David's parents should not have wanted David to do everything they wanted his deceased brother to do. His girlfriend wasn't very understanding, either. Sadly, no one really got that he needed someone to talk to. If they had gotten it, the tragedy could have been prevented.
No "tragedy", it's a MOVIE.
@@llamalady8700 sadly, it isn't just a movie. Suicide is a tragedy. This tragedy happens all too often in real life, too.
This was very powerful and very well done.
Thanks for uploading.
Thanks for sharing! Never seen this one B4 😊
I recognized Lee Montgomery before I even pushed on the video. I always liked him in Girls Just Wanna Have Fun with Sarah Jessica Parker and Shannen Doherty
Thanks for posting!
This is from 1984, not 1988.
10:10 "David, you're going to be 16 next week". Actually actor Lee Montgomery was 22 when this was filmed. 25:00 "Remember to take your new license". So he magically has his license on his 16th birthday; did the DMV beam it into his pocket?
One of the reasons why I prefer looking at stuff from the early 2000s and before is that the producers weren't so afraid of offending people for silly reasons, like the mother (a female) being clueless (which ironically people see today as sexist although they do that to men all the time). Therefore they not only had much more creative freedom, but more often the best writers/producers were chosen without their "morality" being taken into account.
Suicide is not sick or selfish!!! Hate people that think that way! That is just ignorance.....sucidal people are in extreme pain and want to end it and there is nothing selfish about wanting to end one's pain....it's selfish for suicidal people to live because folks want them too....that lady makes me mad-just another ignorant person not knowing that young man's pain!
Well said!
this is selfishness, because people who loved a suicide will experience excruciating pain for the rest of their lives. Suicide is not an option or a solution to problems. often a difficult period passes and better times come. Or a person comes to a vivid realization of how he can become happy and it is not so difficult.
@@jus5240 Another complete stranger with a totaly ignorant comment knowing NOTHING about a sucidal person living with already excrusiating pain.!!!..it's the person living in extreme pain who experiences suffering that does not commit suicide that is cruel!! Suicide IS the solution to excrusiating pain...and some problems ARE permanent and will end with suicide...the problem is many suicidal people dont end their lives because the physical pain of going through with it is just so great it scares them to go through with it. It is SELFISH for others to want a sucicidal person to live in excrusiating pain just to make them happy.
@@jus5240 But depression robs the person of all *choice* and reason, it's not their fault.
@jus5240 What if better times never come? What if they're constantly in physical pain and they can't take it anymore? What if they are feeling unloved or unwanted and alone? The living will continue to live. Those that don't want to continue to live should not feel forced to go on out of guilt.
Great movie, but your copy is missing important scenes. When David gives away his prized possessions and his letter jacket to his coach.
That’s stupid to delete such and important scene. That is usually one of the first signs that someone is planning to commit suicide.
Does anyone know where we can find it? I'd like to see it.
@@abinashmishra329 Why don't you be grateful for the free content here? It's not tainlor's fault that those scenes were accidentally erased from the 30-year old tape.You should think about not being so entitled.
It is also missing the final car ride itself where the surviving guy jumps out--the most important scene in the episode.
@@amelieholbrook3001
You should think about looking up the definition of "entitled".
The actor who played the kid who killed himself is the same actor who played Elliot’s older brother in E.T. the Extraterrestrial.
That was the other guy. The "nerd" with the glasses. The one who chickened out.
I didn’t know that.
I think as cheesy as these were they were good for starting a conversation with your children and maybe made it a little easier for them to broach a conversation with their parents especially if the kids didn’t know how to start a tough /uncomfortable conversation those of us who grew up in the 80’s grew up with a lot of parents who were perfectly happy to shelve the tough topics 😢😢💔
Traggic story about a very prominent problem existing in our society today. Suicide is one of the leading causes of teenage deaths currently!
I remember watching this in health class my senior year of high school, 1997. Crazy that it was recommended to me
David looks like the 80’s actor Joey Lawrence a little bit.
This really hits home for me My cousin committed suicide and it is not the same ever since . It’s very sad and devastating . I try not to blame myself for what happened and I have forgiven her because I know it wasn’t her intent to take her own life . I miss her every day . Suicide is nothing to be glamorized and definitely not something to take lightly and not to joke about ❤️❤️❤️❤️😢😢😢😢😢
Mean and hurtful and harmful and hateful and disrespectful and disgusting and distracting and disturbing and satanic rumors can 🥫 really hurt 🤕😷 people in general! 24:24
Carmen Zapata always gives great performances.
my mom is also named Carmen Zapata .she was born Carmen Zapata.and yes had to watch for Carmen Zapata
My Best Friend committed suicide when I was 16, and she was 18; My stupid phone stopped working, and I see where she called me, and I didn't hear from her, and told my use to be childhood Best Friend, and she told me she **'d on Ibuprofen, and OMG, I lost it, I screamed, hollared, and blamed myself; My Nurse Practitioner told me I wasn't my fault, and I shouldn't beat myself up about it, and etc, and I was a good friend, she was sick, and needed help. Yeah, his parents disgust me for not listening, and how his parents talk to him now I see why he didn't want to be around...UGH... ANNOYING...
I can relate my cousin committed suicide in November 2022 she was only 20 years old
OD'd on ibuprofen? 🤔
I deal with 2 death i lost my mom n 2017 to cancer. We were not bff but she love me n that was my mom. I lost my bff n 2019 she was my sec my mom. I live n crazy neighborhood n the apartment is nightmare n landlord is clueless n no help n the outside n inside is out of control smh. Just bad. The job is just bad. I deal with haters and nepotism. The girl that just came on board recently smh. I am learning that she may be my new manager n she is awful n rude. Bad enough the i have x coworkers i have deal who r just devils . So i understand about not wanting to be around smh. But there a better way. I keep praying n praying smh. U can't let thoughts get n your mind.❤
I'm so sorry for the loss of your Mom. I pray things get better for you.🙏. God bless
Im sorry for the loss of your Mom and your best friend 😔💔😢 i 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 things get better for you 🦋
thank you
Good movie! I dont know how i missed it. I used to watch all the after scool specials.
The guy who played David kinda reminds me of Joey Lawrence yet he was probably working on Gimme a Break when this after school special came out at the time.
This is a million times better than 13 Reasons Why. Bravo!
I had a cousin that did it
In fact he came to my house and asked me how I was coping with the split of my husband and I..
He was a reck..
I took it very hard..I could see how much he was hurting..I did the best I could.. never showed he was giving up..I hurt myself
When I heard what happened..💔💔💔💔...
All the sadness to the family and friends..it's something you never get over..
I just couldn't do anything like that to my parents other..
So anyone out there.. speak up..ask for help..💔💔💔
I had a cousin, she took away her owon life at 27 years old. And my sister said twice she was going to kill herself, because she had a broken heart. Wirde she does have those suicidal toughts. It is sad.
I think this version is truncated. They used to show the recorded CBS broadcast version which was at least 45 minutes
Agreed. I can't find the full version anywhere. Have you had any luck?
This was a good movie. Good acting too.
That big guy is 15?!
That's entertainment for ya.
He'd be about 22 or 23 at the time of making it.
He really looks 30
It's interesting this episode pops up as the news of singer Sinead O'Connor came out this week .the disrespectful disgusting heartless comments 😔, I actually unfollowed someone on tik tok because he made some very rude comments about someone that succomed to suicide .
Permissive love is not what our children need give
Them everything but not love
David’s parents have to be the dumbest tv parents I’ve ever seen
the special is from 1984, not 1988
Parents are Soo blind! Craig...with reason..is jealous! His father has no time for him but enough for the other! Movie or real life of Arents need to wake up! See the signs!
The guy who killed himself is the guy who was one of Michael J. Fox's womanizing friends Justine Bateman left a party with in the 2nd episode of Family Ties and his dad is the guy who tried to seduce Justine Bateman in the 6th episode of Family Ties.
He also played a suicidal character on the tv series Fame. (s2,e21)
The girlfriend of the guy who killed himself played Michael J. Fox’s girlfriend in the first Back to the Future movie.
Interestingly enough, like MJF, he is also Canadian.
Six degrees of Lee Montgomery. 😁
I didn’t even know that.
I saw this in high school in 2007.
The parents only saw their sons for what they could do. One set paid the price for it, and the other set got a major wake up call.
Claudia Wells' hair is glorious.
Donahue reminds me of mary tyler moore in ordinary people.she's being such a beeep just like moore .moore wantes to stuff down what happened to their son while sutherland and hutton wanna talk about to be able to grieve as a family so she leaves them .
Ordinary People is such a great movie. Amazing performances by all involved.
I was thinking the same thing.
She was in Father Knows Best as Betty Anderson.
Elenor Donahue is her name. She’s in her 70’s now.
Wow...I wonder where they filmed it...
These after school specials deal with everyday problems people have to deal with in real life. This episode it sad young guy commit suicide. If person feeling depress they should talk to therapist to deal with their depression.🎥😢
8:45 james hetfields secret band 😆
Anyone recognize the band posters at 23:04 ?
Yes. Siouxsie and The Pyschedelic Furs. The poster in the middle looks like a metal hair glam band but don't know who they are.
Why would another team member tell on another teammate for some pot? Lame
I have a niece who sometimes posts things on suicide on FB. That kid needs a shrink, she's also in a toxic relationship, her boyfriend beats up on her, and she even had a daughter by him
I also really don't want to be a part of her life anymore.
It sounds like she needs more people. Just my 2 cents
@@GaunletofDestruction I’ve had Major Depression and Anxiety my entire life and BPD, Borderline Personality Disorder. What genre of music is that?
very good movie what most teens do not realize that they are hurting more than themselves they HURT OTHERS
They hurt their friends, families, committing suicide is very selfish and leads to Hell, nothing but the Devil telling them to commit suicide. Call the suicide prevention hotline. If you know someone who is suicidal and tells you not to tell or Lose a friend, tell anyway, call suicide prevention hotline, call the police. Tell your friend's parents. If your friend gets angry at you for telling others he or she is about to commit suicide, let your friend get angry at you, Better to lose a friendship than to lose friend.
@@nataliegillmore7436 Suicide does NOT lead to hell!!!! Some people still alive are living in extreme pain with some problem and that is HELL--a state of extreme agony and torment is hell....commiting suicide will end the pain and bring the person to heaven...I go to church and I know better that HELL is not a place of fire and screaming.......the bible description of hell is made up!!! Extreme fire can be the same as extreme pain from a disability!
FU! It is about their pain and that they feel there is no way out of that pain. It is about their pain and not the others. Stop trying to put more guilt on those in pain.
We love you Lee h montgery! Followed you since Ben ❤
I was 15 in 1984..guy looks way too old for 15
Kelly Dube... That's Cause He Is Really In His Early Twenties They Used To Do That All The Time Have People Who Were Actually Older Than They Look Play Teenagers.
Child labour laws is why innit?
@@vincentharris2259child labour laws innit?
Same here.
Lee Montgomery was quite good looking!!
For sure!
Yes he was,..you'd never recognize him today. Years of smoking have destroyed his good looks.
@@fool4singing was he the kid in ‘Burnt Offerings’? I don’t recognize his face, but I think I recognized the name?
@@cici2562 - Yep, same boy. Played Davey.
@@julie11307 thanks - I thought so! He was a good actor.
I don't know why this was such an epidemic drain the 80s and 90s when young men were killing themselves but living through those times and seeing the difference in the 2020 I absolutely understand the struggle that young men were going through . Demonization of masculinity and the push to feminized men cause a lot of confusion in our generation and it really hasn't gotten better .
Yes. These males have been raped abused more than females have! And nobody has been listening!
"the boy with everything to live for."
That line right there just goes to show that people just don't understand depression. You can have everything in the world to live for, the perfect home the perfect life, as much money as you want, but that does not fix physiological issues in your brain. A chemical imbalance doesn't care how much money you have or how happy you should be. You can have every reason to be happy, but if you are lacking in vital chemicals and necessary hormones, the depression will come, and it will take hold, no matter how great your life is. It's not a choice, and you can't choose not to have it. You can't just snap out of it, and you can't just decide to be happy. You have to get medication that fixes the chemical imbalance or nothing is enough to make you happy. And, depression isn't always the result of an upsetting event or circumstances. It can come out of nowhere, for no reason, if your brain and it's chemicals aren't functioning properly. If you're loved one is dealing with this and can't help themselves, then you need to force them to get help. My family cared enough to force me, and it probably saved my life. Be that person for your loved one.
15HE LOOKS ABOUT 30
He was 21 then
Thought child labour laws is why he needed to be older than his character.
There’s a Rebel Flag in the guy’s bedroom! 😮
I notice that bs smh 2 😮
Racist mess
They played Change Today era T.S.O.L. I am so impressed.
18:33 is that a confederate flag in his room? 😂
He could have been a fan of the Dukes of Hazzard show...remember this was the 80s
Sic mess
I use to watch all this series why cn’t they bring serious series with different true cases. So these teenagers can see what r the outcome of it positive or negative.
This episode of afterschool special was very sad two teenager suffer from mental illness and one of them commit suicide. The parents should listen to their son teacher she told them their son was depress and he need to see Psychologist. If parents gave their son attention and love him then he wouldn't commit suicide. I like afterschool school show it deal with everyday problems people have to deal with in real life.😢
Omg is that the dude that played wheels in degrassi junior high and degrassi high he looks really familiar 😮
Phenomenal taste in music lol!
Just think, back when these were made we never dreamed we'd be having to worry about students and teachers getting shot to death in schools. Couldn't even have fathomed it. What has happened to society? Where did we all go wrong
This movie is like if Napoleon Dynamite met Andrew Clark (Emilio Estevez in Breakfast Club) and they became besties.
It's "Michael" from ET.....Robert McNaughton!!! Maybe it was an elf or a Leprechaun!!! Mary, can I back the car out!!!! Henry Thomas aka Elliot and Dee Wallace and Drew Barrymore should have been in this!!!
18:40 - Digging that flag behind his bed
I love the way that they put Miami Vice music behind it
I've actually been working on a story that deals with the topic of teenage suicide for a few years. The story is told from a Christian perspective. It is about a Christian family that becomes dysfunctional when their parents begin to neglect their eighteen-year-old son and eleven-year-old daughter. The teenager dotes on his younger sister and assumes many of the parental responsibilities, but he is dealing with personal problems. After he and his manipulative girlfriend break up, his academic performance and his performance on his school's track team begin to suffer. This angers his parents, because he is on his way to going to Princeton on a track scholarship. The young man is praying every night that Jesus Christ will take his soul while he sleeps, but when this doesn't happen, he decides that he wants to take matters into his own hands by killing himself! With the help of the love of Jesus Christ and the love of his little sister, however, he decides he wants to live.
David's mom is controlling
Now I see why he self deleted, poor kid...😢
Bibi also played the doctor's wife on Tremors. She's the one pulled into the ground inside the station wagon by the Graboid.
People who have never suffered depression just don't get it. It's not something you can just snap out of, or choose not to have. The worst thing you can do to someone with depression is to tell them to snap out of it or tell them they have no reason to be depressed.. That's not the way it works. It's a chemical imbalance, and your life could be absolutely perfect and it will not fix physiological problems. Back when I was in the throes of depression my mother used to say that my kids should be enough to make me happy, and not only did that not help, it added on a layer of guilt on top of it. It's not a choice, it's a disease, and it's not something that you can choose not to have. Just as you can't choose not to have cancer. It's a physiological condition in your brain for which you have no control over. Depression can come out of nowhere, for no reason. It doesn't always have to be brought on by some traumatic event or bad circumstance. I had everything I needed in my life to make me happy, I have no past trauma, but it hit me like a train out of nowhere. If you know where love someone who is dealing with depression, educate yourself. Talk to a professional or even just do a Google search on how to handle someone with depression. Because you can make things a thousand times worse with just your words, or lack of understanding. I am better now, thanks to having family who cared about me enough to force me to go get help. Sometimes that's what it takes. Be that person for your loved one. I recognized the symptoms in my son and I made him go to the doctor, and he is so much better now. Again, this is not a choice or something that we can just decide not to have. It's not a bid for attention, and it is very real.
David character playing a 15 almost 16 year old ! He definitely looks to old to be playing that part .
Right?! Nobody has that much chest hair at fifteen!
He was 21 at that time. We went to HS together at Chadwick in Palis Verdes and he would have graduated in 1979.
Hold on.
Very moving ending.
I have a Commodore 64 still
🙏🏻💙😥💙😥🙏🏻
When people are having mental pain it’s disregarded bc it can’t be seen or touched, it’s not tangible so those who have not experienced long term ongoing chronic mental pain and trauma the suffering becomes that of a terminal illness that can’t be cured with meds therapy love or anything else it’s literally terminal and when someone endures such conditions long term and they don’t take their life they often live a very long slow excruciating painful death riddled with true tangible illness such as cancer heart disease and a host of other deadly chronic diseases due to the environmental factor of long term undue extreme mental duress and I do mean extreme, as much as I disagree with people who disagree with suicide because suicide is not selfish suicide is also not an answer to short term problems or highly complex moderately extended term problems either. There are always going to be a certain percentage of people who did make that snap decision to take their life and they would have regretted it had they not done it however there is a certain percentage of people who are terminally mentally ill and they cannot live like this they can’t do it, mental illness causes physical disability, and it’s not that person’s fault does not come down to them choosing to be that way, and I firmly have to believe that the majority of people who are not compassionate to this and who do not empathize with this or sympathize with this, just can’t because they’ve never experienced it themselves or and it’s never been something that has been experienced close enough to their own home that it actually hits them a certain way. I have lost many people to suicide and I have never not once been angry at them for what they have done. I myself have absolutely considered it as an option, but I also chose not to because I wasn’t in the same type of pain or duress that some other people are but had some things not dramatically changed for me and they were things that were beyond my control. It took assistance from another person, and it took a lot of time a lot of love and a lot more patience than the majority of anyone has I mean seriously it took a saint to bring me back from the ledge having known how I felt and having known why I considered it when I considered it and having come out on the other side of choosing not to actually do it, I do not disagree with the fact that some people don’t have any other options and there is no way to find peace and for anybody to not want another person to have peace is utterly selfish and there isn’t an excuse or an explanation for that. This is also why the most series of the series people do not leave signs because they don’t want to be stopped so if you ever encounter a situation where there weren’t even any signs really to see that really solidify inside of your heart and soul that that to think or wish for them to not have chosen suicide to find peace that they now have attained they are resting in peace , is a sin on behalf of oneself because you’re wishing for them to continue to endure, ongoing suffering and pain that nobody wants to willfully do. Just know that if it was a surprise that needed to happen and there wasn’t anything that could’ve changed it or could’ve stopped they could not be helped and it wouldn’t have been right to even stop them because they deserve to find peace everybody deserves to find peace. Anytime I think that I catch myself wishing that my loved ones were still here, I immediately catch myself and I don’t get sad and I don’t cry because I remember to myself. No they can’t be here. They could not have continued to live the way that they were living. I wouldn’t want them to be here in that state and that’s the only state that they were in that’s the only state that they could be in, so if that’s the only state that they could be in, then I’m happy that they have found peace, and I’m at peace with their choice to choose to do suicide to find it.
The wanna be psychologist woman should not have been talking to the reporter lady like that! She needed to keep her mouth shut at the end just as that boys parents told her to!
OD'd on ibuprofen? 🤔
You're either mistaken, or perhaps you weren't given the correct details, because you can't overdose on ibuprofen and die. It can make you extremely sick, and can lead to liver and kidney function issues that could end up being a contributing factor in death months or years down the road, but it's just not possible to take too much ibuprofen and immediately expire. I'm a deputy coroner, and former doctor of EM, and that just is not possible. If you do indeed have a friend who took their own life, I'm sorry for your loss.