Can you help me bro, so for fps game like valorant and apex and little bit of music Which one is better between salnote zero 2 and tripowin picollo, cuz these two has similar price right now
I got the Chu 2 and I'm loving it! I might try the Zero 2 as well as Wan'er SG, the ultra budget competition this year is just amazing it could compete with the $50 category and slaps some of them for real except project RED from crinacle, that one was out of its league.
I was about the buy the zero but someone in reddit said zero 2 was coming. Waiting for it release. Gonna be me first Iem. I own a philips shp9600 which is an openback headphone. Never tried any iem tho. So excited
Especially since you are used to the 9600 (which I also had in the past) I think the Zero 2 is better for you. The 9600 is pretty bass heavy (especially in the upper bass) and has a dip in the upper midrange and both things together make it sound really warm and relaxed. The first Zero is pretty much the complete opposite to that and I think you would find it even more weird than I did, but the Zero 2 sounds alot better and is definently a good choice as a first IEM. If it is still to fatiguing to listen to for you, you can look at the TRN MT4, same price. Its pretty new too and kind of unknown, but I have it here and really like that one. Comfortable and a bit bassier and more relaxed sounding than the Zero 2 but still good midrange/treble.
Thank you! Glad you liked it. Hope you get it soon, I mostly buy via Linsoul or Shenzhenaudio and Amazon, although it sometimes takes up to a month or so.
Your videos are awesome, mate! I am comenting for them to get more views! Thanks for the review! (I recommend putting some background music and maybe a logo) Hope you get more friends ♥
If the sharp edges hurting your ears, just buy the cheapest foam tips you can find and it actually makes it wearable. But yeah the zero 2 sounds like original zero if it has more bass and less treble. Which good you have reason to buy IEM that sounds different but the bad news is people who love the original sound need to skip on this one.
Yeah I have already read that some people prefer the first version. I do like that 7hz listened to what people were complaning about regarding bass and treble and did not release a Zero 1.1 with minimal changes. And I mean the IEM market is still exploding so at least it's good for your wallet if you like the older Zero more haha.
Since this are my first IEM not sure what im looking for but what I can say is I'm hearing a lot more details that I didn't hear before. Bass is a little on the low end though, other than that they're great and I'm happy I have them. @@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews
Thank you! To answer your question, unfortunately I havent listened to any KBear IEMs, but I took a look at the frequency response of the KS1 and it is pretty different from the Zero 2. The KBear is more V-shaped, meaning it has more bass and more treble, but a weaker midrange. The Zero 2 should sound more natural with instruments and less artificial with guitars for example (they will be more in the foreground). But maybe a bit less exciting with eletronic/bass heavy stuff (although the Zero 2 now has a good amount of bass, so it still sounds good with that too). The Zero may also sound somewhat harsher to you than the KBears at first, the Bears just have an overall "warmer" sound. Hope that helps a little. :)
Could you compare these to the KZ ZS10 Pro? I use them mostly for gaming usually if I wanna listen to music I use my speaker setup or other headphones because I like bass. I really like the way the Zero:2 looks but I don’t wanna buy them if it’s not better, or at least the same quality since for me price isn’t an issue. I am just wondering if more expensive=better, because the ZS10 Pro are $50 and the Zero:2 is $24
So I havent listened to that one, but the ZS10 Pro is a prime example of the older KZ house sound. Basically big boost in the bass that strongly reach into the lower midrange and then huge elevations in the upper midrange and treble, possibly making it harsh for music (mostly instruments like guitars and voices). The Zero 2 will sound more balanced, but it will have less bass, so if you really like your bass and do not care for real sounding instruments you should maybe look at some other IEMs. Tuningwise, the Zero 2 is alot better in most cases, just because you have better separation between bass and midrange and less treble. Now, its important what kind of gaming. Like do you need directional audio? Then I cannot say for sure because I did not hear the ZS10 Pro and you can only go so far reading graphs, but the Zero 2 is pretty good with directional cues for the price. I also think with all the competition nowadays the ZS 10 Pro is way overpriced and should be around 25€. Even KZ changed their house sound nowadays and the ZS10 Pro is not as competitive anymore. I can give you a little list with IEMs where I am sure you will feel like these being an upgrade regarding competitive gaming: - 7hz Sonus (pretty new, more neutral sound so less bass, but great technical abilities and you can point out stuff really well) - Truthear Hexa (smoother sound than the Sonus, a personal favorite of mine, but some people say the Sonus is alittle better which I still havent decided on) Just as an addition, there are nice budget IEMs that have been released recently with a good amount of bass, so maybe take a look at these too: - TRN MT 4 (kind of a more V-shaped Zero 2, so more bass and a bit more treble, but still nicely done and still good midrange) - KZ Castor Black (you have switches that influence the tuning, in its most bass heavy setting it has a nice smooth sound that works well with lots of music and gaming) - Hidisz MS 1 Galaxy (loooots of bass and pushed back midrange, so it mostly works with electronic music, but its just so laid back I like it alot. Not good for directional stuff though because bass overshadows other frequencies)
Great video! I'm trying to decide between the 7Hz Zero 2 and the Truthear Zero Red. Do you think the Reds are worth the extra cost? I want some general IEMs to upgrade from my old Chus for work/entertainment/gaming.
I havent listened to the Red Truthear, only to its blue predecessor (the red should be a little better I think), so I have to recall my memories here. The 7hz are faaaar more comfortable than the Truthears. Really wide nozzle that felt uncomfortable and fatiguing to me and an overall chunky feeling. Soundwise, it basically comes to you liking the harman target or not. If you like that harman sound, the Truthears are the epitome for that for not alot of money and definently worth it. I am not such a big fan of it because the lower midrange is kinda thin and its pretty aggressive in the upper midrange (so guitars and vocals can sound "screeching" sometimes). The Zero has a better tuned midrange for my ears (still aggressive, but a bit "thicker"). The Truthears do have better technical capability I think. Better sounding bass, better separation and everything (if you care about that). Personally I would either buy the 7hz Zero 2 or save some more money and get something like the Hexa (the new 7hz Sonus is also good, but the Hexa is a bit more relaxed sounding) for more neutral and still fun sound or the new Kiwi Ears Melody or Tangzu Fudu if you want a more bassy sound.
I got them not long ago to replace the stock earbuds that came with my phone and boi I got disapointed. On one hand they were super confortable, I could wear them for hours no problem. But at the same time my music was boring, it didn't made me want to move at all, I don't have any precise term to describe them since I barely know a shit about music and sound in general. So yeah, I wore them for a week, found them comfortable, but the music was rather shallow and boring, but quite sharp at the same time, I could ear everything clearly As for build quality, not much to say, the iems themselves feels and looks very good, the cable on the other hand, not so much. You ear a lot of vibrations once you are walking, when, the cable move and jump on you Since then I bought the Kbear Lark and they feel much better to me ! They are a little more expensive tho, 35€ instead of 26 I believe
Thanks! Next Video is a comparison between the Castor Black and the MS1 Galaxy, already listening to it right now. :) What I can already tell you is that it is pretty bass heavy, pretty warm and does get somewhat muddy with instruments and has a little edge somewhere in the treble. Its still very pleasant to listen to, I kinda like it.
How do you compare these to the KZ Castor Black, and would you consider this a hard to drive IEM that would require a DAC to listen at reasonable volume on a smartphone?
My Castor Black just came in! I will take a listen after work and then get back to you here, but looking at the frequency response graph it should have significantly more bass. And the Zero 2 is really easy to drive, you can basically use a potato for it to sound good and loud enough.
So I just listened to a few songs with the Castor. Its also quite comfortable. The little tuning switches actually make a noticeable difference, I have them on UUDD (D=down/U=up), which is the most bass heavy setting. Its quite nice, alot more bass then the Zero 2, especially midbass, makes the sound punchy as hell. Still nice midrange, but less clean and forward then the Zero 2, even with the switches in stock position or with a boost to the mid-highs (DDUU, also makes the sound kinda harsh, too much treble). All switches activated is kinda fun but again, takes away some of the smoothness that makes it really nice to listen to. Generally there is a little boost in the upper midrange and treble, but the bass smoothes out most shouty vocals and stuff. So the Castor is more mainstream than the Zero 2 and is not fatiguing to listen to. Both would be a good choice. With the Castor you have a few fast tuning options with the switches and it just sounds pretty groovy and smoother haha, but the Zero 2 is just better balanced in the midrange and sounds a bit more natural with guitars und vocals.
hyped to see what I think of these... I'm a mixer and even though I don't think I'm the biggest hi-fi nerd, I enjoy good headphones. I bought these as I wanted to see how much you can get for cheap, and I can always use an extra pair of IEMs in the studio for recording. The danger of headphone youtubers is the question you allways get, "but how do they actually sound" I've stoped myself so many times from buying headphones and IEMs I don't need
I am really interested in what you think about the Zero 2, especially as a mixer. :) So if you remember, please tell me after you tried these. And yeah sound is such a subjective topic, of course there are some basics like general tuning/graphs and everything and I try to describe the sound as understandable as possible, but every ear is different, especially for the higher frequencies. Also people are used to their headphone/IEM, so will perceive a new one differently. And just like with alot of other hobbies, the fear of missing out is as big as ever in the audio community haha. I try to use my reviews as an excuse for buing more audio stuff (but its also a lot of fun!). But if you just want to have something to listen to music or use for work, think about your budget and then take a look in that range, buy one that fits your preferences, see if you are happy with it and stop looking at reviews and whats new. There are good IEMs in every price range, although I personally do not go over 100-120€ for a single IEM. Over Ears are expensive enough haha.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews Finally got them! Only listen about 30 minutes but damn these are great. Love the tuning! The bas i so much fun, probably honestly the best in a fun perspektive of the ones I have. Feels like it goes super low and feels big without putting a big vale over the rest. I really also like the staging. Feels verry natural and things have suprisingly good separation. The only fault I can find right now is that it feels like they don't really keep up when you throw something verry distortet at them. If a pop song throws a distortet blast or when I listen to metal they don't feel as "fast" and responsive but I think that is because they feel super dynamic otherwise. Also feel like there are some ringing around 1k and 4k. not sure. My other headphones are Bose Qc35, Samsung buds 2, sennheiser HD650. And it might be the bluetooth but I think these holds upp really well with the wireless ones and I deffinetely more fun than the Sernnheiser.
Thanks for posting and glad you like the Zero 2! Regarding the ringing, I think they have two little peaks there which come through sometimes. This is what sometimes makes them sound brighter than they actually are and at least for me was even more noticeable in the first one. With the Zero 2 I do not really have issues here (guess I get used to it after 1 or 2 songs). Just sounds like an emphasis here to me. Or maybe it is just unit variation. And yeah its crazy to think that these sound more "hifi" BT-Headphones that are 10x the price.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews Ye more I've used them the more i find them kinda fatigueing sometimes and almost to soft others. Some speaking voices in discord and stuff can get really harsh. But overall they are deffinetely a great value. And they would even be a good value at 2-3 times the price.
Yes I had the Hola, there is also a review/comparison of it on this channel if you want to watch that one. :) Zero:2 has more and better bass, Hola felt kinda flat to me regarding impact of bass and just somewhat weak. It is also pretty laid back in the highs and to me sounded like it died off somewhere in the region where things like cymbals start to shine. I guess its nice for treble sensitive listeners, but it really wasnt for me. Zero:2 is more aggressive and brighter sounding (but not harsh, just more intense).
Honestly they are about the same? I sold my Chu 2 but I do not remember the cable being significantly better. In this price range most cables are similar, some appear a bit more sturdy then others, but they wont break thaaat easy if you do not throw them around or walk over them all the time. I never had a cable break on my until now, but a friend of mine went through 2 Hexa cables, so sometimes its just bad luck too. If you want to invest in a good cable for future use take a look at the "Tripowin Zonie" cables. Around 20 bucks and really well built.
I cannot really decide if this is a compliment or not haha. So the sound is good? I will upgrade my microphone next year and also get an interface, so it can only get better.
Hey Tim :) Da sich dein Englisch genauso anhört wie meins schreibe ich mal auf Deutsch 😂. Erstmal ein schönes Video mit einer guten Erklärung hast du da gemacht! Ich hab mal ne Frage... Ich bin relativ neu im iem-Bereich und hatte die Möglichkeit die Moondrop Chu 2 auszuprobieren. Da war ich echt schockiert wie klar der Ton ist und wie viel mehr Details man hören kann (im Vergleich zu meinen alten Soundcore Liberty 2 Pro Kopfhörer zu dem Preis!). Alles in einem will ich mir auch iems zulegen, allerdings hauptsächlich für Gaming (überwiegend single player games)aber auch um Videos zu schauen oder Musik zu hören. Es sollte am besten nicht zu neutral/flach klingen und leicht besseren bass haben als die Moondrop Chu 2. Die Frage wäre dann, bin ich mit den Zero 2 gut bedient oder lohnt es sich für etwas mehr Geld bspw. die Truthear x Zero (Red) oder 7hz Sonus zu kaufen. (Puh, der Text ist jetzt doch etwas länger geworden). Hast du da eine Empfehlung für mich? Würde mich über eine Antwort freuen ^^
Haha verdammt, ich gebe mir echt Mühe aber dieser Akzent lässt sich einfach nicht verbergen. :D Danke für dein Kompliment! Nun zu deiner Frage: Wenn du von Bluetooth-Earbuds in dem Preisbereich kommst in dem Soundcore (wird überall gelobt, aber so dolle sind die nicht, vor allem ohne EQ. Alle bestochen diese TH-camr haha) unterwegs ist kann ich mir gut vorstellen, dass sich ein professionell getunter IEM erstmal krass anders/besser anhört. Soundcore hat halt immer und überall viel Bass (aber keinen guten), dann irgendwo was in den Höhen oder oberen Mitten damit bisschen Vocals oder Instrumente durchkommen und fertig. Die Chu 2 sind auch tatsächlich ganz in Ordnung, mir gefallen wie gesagt die Zero 2 in dem Bereich etwas mehr. Die Truthear Zeros gefallen mir persönlich nicht so. Wenig tiefe Mitten und dazu die sehr präsenten oberen Mitten der Harman Target fühlen sich für mich immer schrill an, sowohl bei Stimmen als auch Instrumenten. Außerdem sind sie riesig und für viele Ohren zumindest etwas unkomfortabel. Die Sonus sind super, aber für dich wohl doch zu neutral gehalten. Bass ist angenehm straff und kontrolliert, aber doch weniger als alle anderen hier genannten. Klingt dennoch echt gut und nicht anstrengend zu hören oder dünn. Die Zero 2 sind super, aber wenn du allgemein noch etwas mehr Bass haben willst als die Chu, mache ich dir mal ne kleine Liste. Wenn du in dem Preisbereich bleiben willst, schaue dir mal die hier an: TRN MT 4 - gefällt mir persönlich besser als die Chu 2, etwas mehr Bass und trotzdem präsente Höhen und Mitten KZ Castor Black - noch günstiger, da hast du kleine Schalter mit denen du den Sound beeinflussen kannst, gefallen mir auch Bisschen teurer: (nur als Seitenvermerk->) Truthear Hexa - alltime Favorite von mir, hat smootheren Ton als der Sonus, also auch eher neutral und nicht wirklich viel Bass, aber super gute Tiefbasswiedergabe und tolles restliches Soundprofil, mir gefällt damit irgendwie alles haha Tangzu Fudu - den habe ich auch noch hier und kurz reingehört, fand ich aber schon sehr vielversprechend. Angenehm bassig-warmer Sound, der aber nicht matschig oder so klingt. Weniger Höhenpräsenz als die Chu 2, aber dafür besser Moondrop Aria 2 - etwas weniger Bass als der Fudu, dafür hier wieder bisschen klarerer Sound, gutes Upgrade von Moondrops erstem Aria Kiwi Ears Melody - Planar-Treiber, hier brauchst du auch einen etwas kräftigeren DAC/AMP (also quasi alles über einem billigen USB-C Dongle, zb den 7hz 71, ich empfehle aber auf die Dauer etwas mit abnehmbarem Kabel zu kaufen, habe nur Pech mit diesen Dingern). Ist noch neu, man hört aber gutes und ich werde mir den auch mal ansehen. Geht wieder in Richtung Chu 2, präsente Bässe und Höhen, Mitten bisschen zurückgenommen Mit keinem davon wirst du etwas falsch machen. Hoffe ich konnte dir etwas weiterhelfen, und dich nicht noch mehr verwirren. Der Markt ist weiterhin am explodieren, und es erscheinen fast im Wochentakt neue IEMs.
Vielen Dank für deine Liste! Ich hab die IEMs deiner Liste sowie anderen die dazwischen gekommen sind verglichen. Am Ende bin ich aber immer wieder bei den Kiwi Ears Melody gelandet, die scheinen so ziemlich das zu sein wonach ich suche. Die sind zwar etwas über mein Budget, aber ich hoffe mal das die mich direkt zufriedenstellen für die nächsten Jahre (ähnlich wie meine alten Soundcore Erabuds damals). Außerdem kann ich die auch ohne Pre-order vom Hersteller (leicht über MSRP von 89,99USD) auch direkt bei Amazon für 95Euro kaufen. Du hast ja noch was von einem Konverter und Verstärker (DAC/AMP) geschrieben. Reicht es da auch aus direkt den Klinkenanschluss z.B. vom Laptop oder der Switch zu verwenden? Für mein Handy könnte ich dann mein alten Adapter (USB C auf 3,5mm Klinke vom Xiaomi MI9) weiter benutzen oder gibt es da noch was zu beachten?
Bei Planar-magnetischen IEMs würde ich immer einen halbwegs guten DAC dazwischen schalten, weil eben so ein normaler onboard soundchip vom Mainboard eines Laptops und erst recht der Switch doch schon an seine Grenzen kommen könnte. Heißt dann im blödesten Fall der IEM wird nicht laut genug oder klingt "lasch". Die Welt der DACs/Amps ist dann aber nochmal eine andere, es gibt größere eher für den stationären Einsatz am PC gedacht (zb. der Fiio K7, wird per Steckdose betrieben, den werde ich mir noch holen), kleinere Varianten fürs Smartphone (Moondrop Dawn Pro, einfach per USB-C ans Handy), oder welche die etwas dazwischen liegen (Fiio E10K, ein super Gerät das ewig hält, für quasi alles ausreicht und auch per USB-C geht). Das Problem bei günstigen Adaptern, ist die Abschirmung. Ich habe mehrere no-name Adapter davon hier um mich da mal durchzuprobieren, und nahezu bei allen kommen Störgeräusche durch oder ein konstantes Rauschen. Ein Samsung Adapter war da mal ne Ausnahme, allerdings finde ich da nur noch Plagiate auf Amazon. Den günstigsten "guten" Adapter den ich hier habe ist der "Moondrop Click". Kostet ca. 20€. Ich habe gerade auch nochmal bei Linsoul nachgeschaut wie viel Power der Melody braucht, und er scheint doch genügsamer als gedacht, denke der Click würde sogar schon reichen. Bei den Kabeln immer mit dem Knicken aufpassen, die sind doch gut empfindlich.
Mal wieder vielen Dank für deine Hilfe:) Du sparst mir einiges an Suchzeit mit deinen Empfehlungen! Die Moondrop Dawn Pro gefallen mir ganz gut, ich bin aber noch auf die Moondrop free DSP gestoßen. Meinst du die wären eine gute Alternative zu den Dawn Pro? Alle meine Geräte die ich benutze haben ein USB-C Anschluss und ich nutze derzeit keine weiteren Kopfhörer bzw. Headphones (sprich die kiwi ears auf dem Typ c Stecker würden mir für meine Anwendungsfälle komplett ausreichen) Edit: vergiss was ich vorhin geschrieben hab, ich hab mir jetzt die fiio ka13 gekauft 😂
I have never listened to the Blon, but for the price the Zero 2 is pretty good and has a flatter midrange and just more balanced treble than the Blon. So it should sound somewhat more clean and natural with instruments.
Havent listened to that one, but it seems to get good reviews, and looking at the graph its a nice smooth and slightly warm tuning. Maybe a bit bright in the treble, but well extended. Should be a good choice too, at least theoretically from my perspective.
Cant say anything about comfort since I do not have that one, but looking at the frequency response graphs the Simgot has less bass than the Zero:2 and should sound brighter.
I never listened to the Galaxy Buds Pro, so I can really only judge by looking the graphs and at BT-Earbuds in general. The Buds Pro should have a more V-shaped Sound, meaning even more bass quantity and more highs, but less midrange (instruments sound less forward and less natural). They have a pretty strong emphasis in the upper bass and lower midrange, which means bass can muddy up the midrange and make it quite boomy sounding. That takes away from the clarity and makes instruments and voices sound more veiled and distant. Looking at the Zero 2, you should expect a cleaner sound where you get the feeling you can hear more while still having a good amount of bass, but less so than on the Buds Pro. It will work better for all kinds of music with guitar work for example, but you will probably feel a bit less "thickness" and oomph in the sound when listening to electronic stuff. I hope that helps a bit. What music do you listen too? Do you have any preferences regarding sound?
For those who dislike a certain tuning, why not just fukken get a DAP that has a custom EQ??? I do, and I can get the exact sound I like! I just got the CHu Chu 2 and EQ'd it, done.
Thats actually a huge topic in the audio world! Why would you not buy a cheap IEM, tune it the way you and like be done with it? For me personally, I kinda like to explore what the creator of the IEM wanted music to sound like. The difference between the headphones/IEMs themselves is what makes this interesting for me. If you want "your sound", than EQ is more valid here. Also, its pretty unpractical to use EQ for me. I listen to music on my phone, PC, use it for recording with separate devices and for bass/guitar playing and whatnot which would require different tunings. It would just be exhausting to adjust the EQ every time, especially if you have more than one headphone/IEM. Than of course, the huge elephant in the room: Even if you tune two IEMs/Headphones to the exact same tuning, it will not sound the same. Otherwise you could throw a cheap dynamic driver in everything and it wouldnt make sense that we have different driver combinations, sizes and stuff like planar drivers. I do not want to throw snake oil shit around here and I know that diminishing returns is definetly a thing. The whole IEM/Headphones game has became so good that you really do not need to pay that much to get a really good sound. But a 10mm dynamic driver sounds different than an 8mm dynamic or a 14,5mm planar for example. So there are reasons to get an IEM/Headphone that comes close to the tuning you like without EQ.
for gaming definitely zero 2, i heard chu 2 is a little more distracting sounding and less clean so for competitive gaming u will can focus on sounds better on zero 2
Yeah as the other guy said the Zero 2 is somewhat better, at least for me the Chu 2 has some weird things going on in the treble where it sounds a bit "dirty" (little edges in the sound coming through, makes it sound less clean).
You're welcome! :) Why do you think these two would be more fitting? I chose the Waner because it is such a well known and popular IEM that I also really like and the Chu 2 because it was released pretty recently and kind of fits in the same category regarding sound and price. I actually have the Tanchjim One here and I really don't like it haha. Will also make a review for that one, just little time right now, but I have like 5-6 relatively new IEMs here that I have to go through.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews reason i called "one" fitting because of elevation in bass but not so much in treble and cleaner details at $25. Forget about laidback hola, i should not have mentioned it. Which "one" do you have? 3.5mm or the type-c?
I have the Type-C one, and it has a reeeeally boosted upper midrange and treble. This combines with the weird comfort (I wanted to try these different shaped IEMs without the hooks) makes it pretty awful. Also feels really cheap, like alot cheaper than your usual budget IEM.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews i was prioritizing for "one" over zero 2 but your quality control issues seems serious. I have kz edxpro it has poor quality cable and how can it be worse than that! You are the first one to be so critical on quality on "one". Bullets are small, how can there be problematic fitting 😵. Is the problem only about hooks? My phone has 3.5mm.
I am not yet done with my full assessment so take this with a grain of salt. I do not think it is broken, it just feels really cheap. Like the IEM itself has this greyish metal look on pictures but feels like really cheap plastic in reality, the Zero 2 feels 10x better just holding it. The shell itself (the translucent part) is fine. Cable is abit flimsy, but standard quality. Pretty much resembles the typical KZ cables in this price range. Maybe my ears just do not work with the bullet design. I am still trying different eartips but they just feel really loose in my ear and with every movement I lose the seal, so less bass and more treble. Maybe people with smaller ear canals will appreciate them more, it actually feels too small for me. The USB-C one also follows the Tanchjim target curve, which does have a little boost in the lower bass (but less so than the Zero 2) and then basically a thin lower midrange with an emphasis on the upper midrange (2k-3k), which combined sounds thin and shouty to me (at least up to this point, again I am not yet done, maybe I still need to find the right tips). The 3.5mm one sounds a bit different, more bass and thicker lower midrange which should make it less harsh, but still a bit bright. I would prefer the Zero 2 any day.
So I havent listened to the ZS6, but looking at the graph I can only concur with the other dude who answered your question: The Zero has a better tuning. The ZS6 seems to have significant boosts in the bass, upper treble and upper midrange. This is something KZ did with their earlier IEMs, basically was their "house-sound" in the past. The Zero will sound more balanced and natural with basically everything. Instruments and vocals will sound fuller but not in a bassy sense. With the ZS6, imagine strumming an acoustic guitar and getting a bright, kinda thin sound. The Zero 2 wont do that and will sound more real. Sometimes midrange is difficult to describe haha and I need to work on that, like describing some sounds. It is still not a laidback IEM (but if you are used to the ZS6, you should be fine) but has nice bass and will not be as harsh to your ears.
Is the 7 Hz Crinacle Zero 2 better than the 7 Hz salnotes zero? for FPS games where I need to know how far away and where the sound of enemy footsteps is coming from?
short answer newer is better also if you only want imaging get something that only emphasizes the footstep range and has good imaging. or tune to that yourself. if ur that hard core go do it for any decent iem. poor sound lol but youll get that function
"Can you recommend IEMs that emphasize the footstep range and imaging? Also, how can I tune my IEMs myself to better hear footsteps in terms of distance and direction?" @@mooseonshrooms
I Like the Zero 2 more. The Chu has a little more bass and is a bit more punchy, but the Zero 2 just has an overall more natural sound and still nicely present bass. Treble is also better on the Zero 2, sounds cleaner and more pleasant to my ears.
Both are really good, but I think the Zero 2 is alittle better for you. Waner is a very smooth sounding IEM, Zero 2 could be better for gaming since it works a bit better for footsteps and stuff. Depending on what music you are listening too, the Zero also has cleaner while still very present bass. If you are not especially sensitive to treble (does music sound harsh to you fast?) I would take the Zero 2.
You do not need any special DAC for the Zero 2. Just get something like the Moondrop Click if you want to go cheap (usb-c cables break easily though if bend alot) or the Truthear Shio. Detachable cables are always a big plus for mobile use, but these DACs are usually more expensive.
Dude do not buy any IEM just because it gets good reviews, the Waner is completly fine and maybe even better for you, who knows. :) If you want to go up the ladder save a bit of money and take a look at more expensive IEMs like the Truthear Hexa, Tangzu Fudu or Moondrop Aria 2. Will feel more like an upgrade to you then.
The Blon Jojo sounds nice if you're looking for bass, but comfort really depends on your ears (getting a good seal can be difficult). The Hidizs MS-1 Galaxy is also a relaxed and bassy IEM and pretty cheap.
Zero 2 is somewhat bassier if I remember the Hola correct. Although the graphs show that Hola should have sufficient bass for most genres, it always felt kinda flat to me and just weak regarding impact and stuff. Do not have this problem with the Zero 2. All in all Zero is more intense sounding though, Hola is pretty laid back.
I buy most of my IEMs at Linsoul and Shenzhenaudio, these two are basically THE big sellers in the Chifi market. They have most of their stuff on Amazon, so you can buy stuff there if you have an account.
zero:2 this should be good for music and for gaming and i think even for competitive gaming should be pretty cuz it dont has a distracting sound but still has details just in less distracting way and not over emphasize them, ew200 is considered "good" but definitely not good for many hours of use and also very distracting sound so zero 2 is definitely a good all rounder
"Best" is really subjective, it highly depends on what music do you listen too. The Zero 2 is a really good allrounder and for under 40 could be considered one of the best for most people. If you like a more bassy sound, take a look at the TRN MT4, I really like that one, just as the new KZ Castor. If you want a loooot of bass and laid back sound and you do not care for clean midrange, the Hidisz MS1 is comfortable and nice for bass heavy music.
Don’t buy it if you want a more solid, bassy sound! I have both versions and they are the same basically, the second has a tiny bit more bass that’s all…..and it’s not much!
Can we finally hear 7hz with this?
If you are a whale, then yes
🐳
No, it stops at 10
Dumb.
Can you help me bro, so for fps game like valorant and apex and little bit of music Which one is better between salnote zero 2 and tripowin picollo, cuz these two has similar price right now
You nailed the description of the original Zeros. I mostly liked them (as my workout IEMs), but was surprised by the hype.
Thank you! Yeah especially nowadays the competition is just insane so I am glad 7hz released another version and listened to what people were saying.
Thanks for the detail and great review! (Ray from 7hz)
Thank you so much!
I got the Chu 2 and I'm loving it! I might try the Zero 2 as well as Wan'er SG, the ultra budget competition this year is just amazing it could compete with the $50 category and slaps some of them for real except project RED from crinacle, that one was out of its league.
I was about the buy the zero but someone in reddit said zero 2 was coming. Waiting for it release. Gonna be me first Iem. I own a philips shp9600 which is an openback headphone. Never tried any iem tho. So excited
Especially since you are used to the 9600 (which I also had in the past) I think the Zero 2 is better for you. The 9600 is pretty bass heavy (especially in the upper bass) and has a dip in the upper midrange and both things together make it sound really warm and relaxed. The first Zero is pretty much the complete opposite to that and I think you would find it even more weird than I did, but the Zero 2 sounds alot better and is definently a good choice as a first IEM.
If it is still to fatiguing to listen to for you, you can look at the TRN MT4, same price. Its pretty new too and kind of unknown, but I have it here and really like that one. Comfortable and a bit bassier and more relaxed sounding than the Zero 2 but still good midrange/treble.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews Thanks 👍 . Will look into that one , 😊 sure.
Loved your review. Still kinda waiting this to be available on my country. Local seller still waiting on the preorder.
Thank you! Glad you liked it. Hope you get it soon, I mostly buy via Linsoul or Shenzhenaudio and Amazon, although it sometimes takes up to a month or so.
Your videos are awesome, mate! I am comenting for them to get more views! Thanks for the review! (I recommend putting some background music and maybe a logo)
Hope you get more friends ♥
Thank you so much dude! Really appreciate the nice words. And yeah maybe time to get some professional stuff in there haha.
If the sharp edges hurting your ears, just buy the cheapest foam tips you can find and it actually makes it wearable. But yeah the zero 2 sounds like original zero if it has more bass and less treble. Which good you have reason to buy IEM that sounds different but the bad news is people who love the original sound need to skip on this one.
Yeah I have already read that some people prefer the first version. I do like that 7hz listened to what people were complaning about regarding bass and treble and did not release a Zero 1.1 with minimal changes.
And I mean the IEM market is still exploding so at least it's good for your wallet if you like the older Zero more haha.
Nice review! Figures i'll retire my old KZ, and get Zero 2
Thanks! Yeah its a great budget IEM. :)
First pair of IEMs! Can’t wait to hear them 😎
Yeah! If you still remember please tell me what you think of these when you get them. :)
Since this are my first IEM not sure what im looking for but what I can say is I'm hearing a lot more details that I didn't hear before. Bass is a little on the low end though, other than that they're great and I'm happy I have them. @@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews
Glad you like them! If its not bassy enough you could use an Equalizer and boost it a bit. What headphones did you use before? :)
Thanks for the great review! (Larry from 7Hz)
Thanks alot!
Loved your video! Would you know how the Zero:2 compare to the KbEar KS1? Cheers
Thank you! To answer your question, unfortunately I havent listened to any KBear IEMs, but I took a look at the frequency response of the KS1 and it is pretty different from the Zero 2. The KBear is more V-shaped, meaning it has more bass and more treble, but a weaker midrange. The Zero 2 should sound more natural with instruments and less artificial with guitars for example (they will be more in the foreground). But maybe a bit less exciting with eletronic/bass heavy stuff (although the Zero 2 now has a good amount of bass, so it still sounds good with that too). The Zero may also sound somewhat harsher to you than the KBears at first, the Bears just have an overall "warmer" sound.
Hope that helps a little. :)
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews gotcha, I'll get them and see how they sound since they're relatively cheap, thanks for the message anyways!
Could you compare these to the KZ ZS10 Pro? I use them mostly for gaming usually if I wanna listen to music I use my speaker setup or other headphones because I like bass. I really like the way the Zero:2 looks but I don’t wanna buy them if it’s not better, or at least the same quality since for me price isn’t an issue. I am just wondering if more expensive=better, because the ZS10 Pro are $50 and the Zero:2 is $24
So I havent listened to that one, but the ZS10 Pro is a prime example of the older KZ house sound. Basically big boost in the bass that strongly reach into the lower midrange and then huge elevations in the upper midrange and treble, possibly making it harsh for music (mostly instruments like guitars and voices). The Zero 2 will sound more balanced, but it will have less bass, so if you really like your bass and do not care for real sounding instruments you should maybe look at some other IEMs. Tuningwise, the Zero 2 is alot better in most cases, just because you have better separation between bass and midrange and less treble.
Now, its important what kind of gaming. Like do you need directional audio? Then I cannot say for sure because I did not hear the ZS10 Pro and you can only go so far reading graphs, but the Zero 2 is pretty good with directional cues for the price. I also think with all the competition nowadays the ZS 10 Pro is way overpriced and should be around 25€. Even KZ changed their house sound nowadays and the ZS10 Pro is not as competitive anymore.
I can give you a little list with IEMs where I am sure you will feel like these being an upgrade regarding competitive gaming:
- 7hz Sonus (pretty new, more neutral sound so less bass, but great technical abilities and you can point out stuff really well)
- Truthear Hexa (smoother sound than the Sonus, a personal favorite of mine, but some people say the Sonus is alittle better which I still havent decided on)
Just as an addition, there are nice budget IEMs that have been released recently with a good amount of bass, so maybe take a look at these too:
- TRN MT 4 (kind of a more V-shaped Zero 2, so more bass and a bit more treble, but still nicely done and still good midrange)
- KZ Castor Black (you have switches that influence the tuning, in its most bass heavy setting it has a nice smooth sound that works well with lots of music and gaming)
- Hidisz MS 1 Galaxy (loooots of bass and pushed back midrange, so it mostly works with electronic music, but its just so laid back I like it alot. Not good for directional stuff though because bass overshadows other frequencies)
Great video! I'm trying to decide between the 7Hz Zero 2 and the Truthear Zero Red. Do you think the Reds are worth the extra cost? I want some general IEMs to upgrade from my old Chus for work/entertainment/gaming.
I havent listened to the Red Truthear, only to its blue predecessor (the red should be a little better I think), so I have to recall my memories here. The 7hz are faaaar more comfortable than the Truthears. Really wide nozzle that felt uncomfortable and fatiguing to me and an overall chunky feeling.
Soundwise, it basically comes to you liking the harman target or not. If you like that harman sound, the Truthears are the epitome for that for not alot of money and definently worth it. I am not such a big fan of it because the lower midrange is kinda thin and its pretty aggressive in the upper midrange (so guitars and vocals can sound "screeching" sometimes). The Zero has a better tuned midrange for my ears (still aggressive, but a bit "thicker").
The Truthears do have better technical capability I think. Better sounding bass, better separation and everything (if you care about that).
Personally I would either buy the 7hz Zero 2 or save some more money and get something like the Hexa (the new 7hz Sonus is also good, but the Hexa is a bit more relaxed sounding) for more neutral and still fun sound or the new Kiwi Ears Melody or Tangzu Fudu if you want a more bassy sound.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews Thanks for the response! I'll checkout the Hexa.
I got them not long ago to replace the stock earbuds that came with my phone and boi I got disapointed.
On one hand they were super confortable, I could wear them for hours no problem.
But at the same time my music was boring, it didn't made me want to move at all, I don't have any precise term to describe them since I barely know a shit about music and sound in general.
So yeah, I wore them for a week, found them comfortable, but the music was rather shallow and boring, but quite sharp at the same time, I could ear everything clearly
As for build quality, not much to say, the iems themselves feels and looks very good, the cable on the other hand, not so much. You ear a lot of vibrations once you are walking, when, the cable move and jump on you
Since then I bought the Kbear Lark and they feel much better to me ! They are a little more expensive tho, 35€ instead of 26 I believe
Nice to listen this review. I would like to listen a review about Hidizs MS1 Galaxy, same cost, would be nice to know your opinion.
Thanks! Next Video is a comparison between the Castor Black and the MS1 Galaxy, already listening to it right now. :) What I can already tell you is that it is pretty bass heavy, pretty warm and does get somewhat muddy with instruments and has a little edge somewhere in the treble. Its still very pleasant to listen to, I kinda like it.
How do you compare these to the KZ Castor Black, and would you consider this a hard to drive IEM that would require a DAC to listen at reasonable volume on a smartphone?
My Castor Black just came in! I will take a listen after work and then get back to you here, but looking at the frequency response graph it should have significantly more bass.
And the Zero 2 is really easy to drive, you can basically use a potato for it to sound good and loud enough.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews Thanks for the reply, cant wait to see your Castor review
So I just listened to a few songs with the Castor. Its also quite comfortable. The little tuning switches actually make a noticeable difference, I have them on UUDD (D=down/U=up), which is the most bass heavy setting. Its quite nice, alot more bass then the Zero 2, especially midbass, makes the sound punchy as hell. Still nice midrange, but less clean and forward then the Zero 2, even with the switches in stock position or with a boost to the mid-highs (DDUU, also makes the sound kinda harsh, too much treble). All switches activated is kinda fun but again, takes away some of the smoothness that makes it really nice to listen to.
Generally there is a little boost in the upper midrange and treble, but the bass smoothes out most shouty vocals and stuff. So the Castor is more mainstream than the Zero 2 and is not fatiguing to listen to.
Both would be a good choice. With the Castor you have a few fast tuning options with the switches and it just sounds pretty groovy and smoother haha, but the Zero 2 is just better balanced in the midrange and sounds a bit more natural with guitars und vocals.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews That was a very thoughtful, informative review. Thanks friend
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews Which one, do u think has a better sound stage?
hyped to see what I think of these... I'm a mixer and even though I don't think I'm the biggest hi-fi nerd, I enjoy good headphones. I bought these as I wanted to see how much you can get for cheap, and I can always use an extra pair of IEMs in the studio for recording. The danger of headphone youtubers is the question you allways get, "but how do they actually sound" I've stoped myself so many times from buying headphones and IEMs I don't need
I am really interested in what you think about the Zero 2, especially as a mixer. :) So if you remember, please tell me after you tried these.
And yeah sound is such a subjective topic, of course there are some basics like general tuning/graphs and everything and I try to describe the sound as understandable as possible, but every ear is different, especially for the higher frequencies. Also people are used to their headphone/IEM, so will perceive a new one differently. And just like with alot of other hobbies, the fear of missing out is as big as ever in the audio community haha. I try to use my reviews as an excuse for buing more audio stuff (but its also a lot of fun!).
But if you just want to have something to listen to music or use for work, think about your budget and then take a look in that range, buy one that fits your preferences, see if you are happy with it and stop looking at reviews and whats new. There are good IEMs in every price range, although I personally do not go over 100-120€ for a single IEM. Over Ears are expensive enough haha.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews Finally got them! Only listen about 30 minutes but damn these are great. Love the tuning! The bas i so much fun, probably honestly the best in a fun perspektive of the ones I have. Feels like it goes super low and feels big without putting a big vale over the rest. I really also like the staging. Feels verry natural and things have suprisingly good separation.
The only fault I can find right now is that it feels like they don't really keep up when you throw something verry distortet at them. If a pop song throws a distortet blast or when I listen to metal they don't feel as "fast" and responsive but I think that is because they feel super dynamic otherwise. Also feel like there are some ringing around 1k and 4k. not sure.
My other headphones are Bose Qc35, Samsung buds 2, sennheiser HD650. And it might be the bluetooth but I think these holds upp really well with the wireless ones and I deffinetely more fun than the Sernnheiser.
Oh I also have the ATH-E40 for drumming. Not a lot of critical listening there but I think these would win tbh
Thanks for posting and glad you like the Zero 2!
Regarding the ringing, I think they have two little peaks there which come through sometimes. This is what sometimes makes them sound brighter than they actually are and at least for me was even more noticeable in the first one. With the Zero 2 I do not really have issues here (guess I get used to it after 1 or 2 songs). Just sounds like an emphasis here to me. Or maybe it is just unit variation.
And yeah its crazy to think that these sound more "hifi" BT-Headphones that are 10x the price.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews Ye more I've used them the more i find them kinda fatigueing sometimes and almost to soft others. Some speaking voices in discord and stuff can get really harsh. But overall they are deffinetely a great value. And they would even be a good value at 2-3 times the price.
nice review keep it up👍
Thanks dude!
Have you tried Truthear Hola ?
How does the Selnotes Zero 2 compares to the Truthear Hola ?
Yes I had the Hola, there is also a review/comparison of it on this channel if you want to watch that one. :)
Zero:2 has more and better bass, Hola felt kinda flat to me regarding impact of bass and just somewhat weak. It is also pretty laid back in the highs and to me sounded like it died off somewhere in the region where things like cymbals start to shine. I guess its nice for treble sensitive listeners, but it really wasnt for me. Zero:2 is more aggressive and brighter sounding (but not harsh, just more intense).
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviewsThank you I'm going with Zero 2. Btw subbed !
Surprisingly, i have the aria and og zero. The zero have better,less sharp treble compare to aria. Cymbals,kick drums sounds better in zero.
How do you compare the cable of Zero 2 and moondrop chu 2? I am worried about the cable of zero 2, everyone is saying its cheap made.
Honestly they are about the same? I sold my Chu 2 but I do not remember the cable being significantly better. In this price range most cables are similar, some appear a bit more sturdy then others, but they wont break thaaat easy if you do not throw them around or walk over them all the time. I never had a cable break on my until now, but a friend of mine went through 2 Hexa cables, so sometimes its just bad luck too.
If you want to invest in a good cable for future use take a look at the "Tripowin Zonie" cables. Around 20 bucks and really well built.
Ah yes. My dose of asmr has arrived with an iem review. Perfect
I cannot really decide if this is a compliment or not haha. So the sound is good? I will upgrade my microphone next year and also get an interface, so it can only get better.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews sound is good. Your voice is just relaxing haha
Oh wow thank you! Glad you like it. :)
Hey Tim :)
Da sich dein Englisch genauso anhört wie meins schreibe ich mal auf Deutsch 😂.
Erstmal ein schönes Video mit einer guten Erklärung hast du da gemacht!
Ich hab mal ne Frage... Ich bin relativ neu im iem-Bereich und hatte die Möglichkeit die Moondrop Chu 2 auszuprobieren. Da war ich echt schockiert wie klar der Ton ist und wie viel mehr Details man hören kann (im Vergleich zu meinen alten Soundcore Liberty 2 Pro Kopfhörer zu dem Preis!). Alles in einem will ich mir auch iems zulegen, allerdings hauptsächlich für Gaming (überwiegend single player games)aber auch um Videos zu schauen oder Musik zu hören. Es sollte am besten nicht zu neutral/flach klingen und leicht besseren bass haben als die Moondrop Chu 2. Die Frage wäre dann, bin ich mit den Zero 2 gut bedient oder lohnt es sich für etwas mehr Geld bspw. die Truthear x Zero (Red) oder 7hz Sonus zu kaufen. (Puh, der Text ist jetzt doch etwas länger geworden). Hast du da eine Empfehlung für mich? Würde mich über eine Antwort freuen ^^
Haha verdammt, ich gebe mir echt Mühe aber dieser Akzent lässt sich einfach nicht verbergen. :D
Danke für dein Kompliment!
Nun zu deiner Frage:
Wenn du von Bluetooth-Earbuds in dem Preisbereich kommst in dem Soundcore (wird überall gelobt, aber so dolle sind die nicht, vor allem ohne EQ. Alle bestochen diese TH-camr haha) unterwegs ist kann ich mir gut vorstellen, dass sich ein professionell getunter IEM erstmal krass anders/besser anhört. Soundcore hat halt immer und überall viel Bass (aber keinen guten), dann irgendwo was in den Höhen oder oberen Mitten damit bisschen Vocals oder Instrumente durchkommen und fertig. Die Chu 2 sind auch tatsächlich ganz in Ordnung, mir gefallen wie gesagt die Zero 2 in dem Bereich etwas mehr.
Die Truthear Zeros gefallen mir persönlich nicht so. Wenig tiefe Mitten und dazu die sehr präsenten oberen Mitten der Harman Target fühlen sich für mich immer schrill an, sowohl bei Stimmen als auch Instrumenten. Außerdem sind sie riesig und für viele Ohren zumindest etwas unkomfortabel. Die Sonus sind super, aber für dich wohl doch zu neutral gehalten. Bass ist angenehm straff und kontrolliert, aber doch weniger als alle anderen hier genannten. Klingt dennoch echt gut und nicht anstrengend zu hören oder dünn.
Die Zero 2 sind super, aber wenn du allgemein noch etwas mehr Bass haben willst als die Chu, mache ich dir mal ne kleine Liste.
Wenn du in dem Preisbereich bleiben willst, schaue dir mal die hier an:
TRN MT 4 - gefällt mir persönlich besser als die Chu 2, etwas mehr Bass und trotzdem präsente Höhen und Mitten
KZ Castor Black - noch günstiger, da hast du kleine Schalter mit denen du den Sound beeinflussen kannst, gefallen mir auch
Bisschen teurer:
(nur als Seitenvermerk->) Truthear Hexa - alltime Favorite von mir, hat smootheren Ton als der Sonus, also auch eher neutral und nicht wirklich viel Bass, aber super gute Tiefbasswiedergabe und tolles restliches Soundprofil, mir gefällt damit irgendwie alles haha
Tangzu Fudu - den habe ich auch noch hier und kurz reingehört, fand ich aber schon sehr vielversprechend. Angenehm bassig-warmer Sound, der aber nicht matschig oder so klingt. Weniger Höhenpräsenz als die Chu 2, aber dafür besser
Moondrop Aria 2 - etwas weniger Bass als der Fudu, dafür hier wieder bisschen klarerer Sound, gutes Upgrade von Moondrops erstem Aria
Kiwi Ears Melody - Planar-Treiber, hier brauchst du auch einen etwas kräftigeren DAC/AMP (also quasi alles über einem billigen USB-C Dongle, zb den 7hz 71, ich empfehle aber auf die Dauer etwas mit abnehmbarem Kabel zu kaufen, habe nur Pech mit diesen Dingern). Ist noch neu, man hört aber gutes und ich werde mir den auch mal ansehen. Geht wieder in Richtung Chu 2, präsente Bässe und Höhen, Mitten bisschen zurückgenommen
Mit keinem davon wirst du etwas falsch machen. Hoffe ich konnte dir etwas weiterhelfen, und dich nicht noch mehr verwirren. Der Markt ist weiterhin am explodieren, und es erscheinen fast im Wochentakt neue IEMs.
Vielen Dank für deine Liste!
Ich hab die IEMs deiner Liste sowie anderen die dazwischen gekommen sind verglichen. Am Ende bin ich aber immer wieder bei den Kiwi Ears Melody gelandet, die scheinen so ziemlich das zu sein wonach ich suche. Die sind zwar etwas über mein Budget, aber ich hoffe mal das die mich direkt zufriedenstellen für die nächsten Jahre (ähnlich wie meine alten Soundcore Erabuds damals). Außerdem kann ich die auch ohne Pre-order vom Hersteller (leicht über MSRP von 89,99USD) auch direkt bei Amazon für 95Euro kaufen.
Du hast ja noch was von einem Konverter und Verstärker (DAC/AMP) geschrieben. Reicht es da auch aus direkt den Klinkenanschluss z.B. vom Laptop oder der Switch zu verwenden?
Für mein Handy könnte ich dann mein alten Adapter (USB C auf 3,5mm Klinke vom Xiaomi MI9) weiter benutzen oder gibt es da noch was zu beachten?
Bei Planar-magnetischen IEMs würde ich immer einen halbwegs guten DAC dazwischen schalten, weil eben so ein normaler onboard soundchip vom Mainboard eines Laptops und erst recht der Switch doch schon an seine Grenzen kommen könnte. Heißt dann im blödesten Fall der IEM wird nicht laut genug oder klingt "lasch". Die Welt der DACs/Amps ist dann aber nochmal eine andere, es gibt größere eher für den stationären Einsatz am PC gedacht (zb. der Fiio K7, wird per Steckdose betrieben, den werde ich mir noch holen), kleinere Varianten fürs Smartphone (Moondrop Dawn Pro, einfach per USB-C ans Handy), oder welche die etwas dazwischen liegen (Fiio E10K, ein super Gerät das ewig hält, für quasi alles ausreicht und auch per USB-C geht).
Das Problem bei günstigen Adaptern, ist die Abschirmung. Ich habe mehrere no-name Adapter davon hier um mich da mal durchzuprobieren, und nahezu bei allen kommen Störgeräusche durch oder ein konstantes Rauschen. Ein Samsung Adapter war da mal ne Ausnahme, allerdings finde ich da nur noch Plagiate auf Amazon.
Den günstigsten "guten" Adapter den ich hier habe ist der "Moondrop Click". Kostet ca. 20€.
Ich habe gerade auch nochmal bei Linsoul nachgeschaut wie viel Power der Melody braucht, und er scheint doch genügsamer als gedacht, denke der Click würde sogar schon reichen. Bei den Kabeln immer mit dem Knicken aufpassen, die sind doch gut empfindlich.
Mal wieder vielen Dank für deine Hilfe:)
Du sparst mir einiges an Suchzeit mit deinen Empfehlungen!
Die Moondrop Dawn Pro gefallen mir ganz gut, ich bin aber noch auf die Moondrop free DSP gestoßen. Meinst du die wären eine gute Alternative zu den Dawn Pro? Alle meine Geräte die ich benutze haben ein USB-C Anschluss und ich nutze derzeit keine weiteren Kopfhörer bzw. Headphones (sprich die kiwi ears auf dem Typ c Stecker würden mir für meine Anwendungsfälle komplett ausreichen)
Edit: vergiss was ich vorhin geschrieben hab, ich hab mir jetzt die fiio ka13 gekauft 😂
Und, hast du den Melody bekommen? Wie gefällt der IEM dir? :)
Sir ..Does this have better clarity and seperation than the blon 03???
I have never listened to the Blon, but for the price the Zero 2 is pretty good and has a flatter midrange and just more balanced treble than the Blon. So it should sound somewhat more clean and natural with instruments.
Just cancelled my tangzu wan'er order, going to order these when it's available in my country!
Wanner is 16-18$ while zero 2 is 25$ so yes you pay extra for the improvement.
Tell me if you like it when its there. :)
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews nvm, I ordered the simgot ew200 for 30 dollars! Is it better than the zero two?
Havent listened to that one, but it seems to get good reviews, and looking at the graph its a nice smooth and slightly warm tuning. Maybe a bit bright in the treble, but well extended. Should be a good choice too, at least theoretically from my perspective.
How would you compares this to the simgot ew200 in terms of comfort and sound quality?
Cant say anything about comfort since I do not have that one, but looking at the frequency response graphs the Simgot has less bass than the Zero:2 and should sound brighter.
Hey man, I am using samsung buds pro as my daily driver, is this a better option in terms of overall sound quality?
I never listened to the Galaxy Buds Pro, so I can really only judge by looking the graphs and at BT-Earbuds in general.
The Buds Pro should have a more V-shaped Sound, meaning even more bass quantity and more highs, but less midrange (instruments sound less forward and less natural). They have a pretty strong emphasis in the upper bass and lower midrange, which means bass can muddy up the midrange and make it quite boomy sounding. That takes away from the clarity and makes instruments and voices sound more veiled and distant.
Looking at the Zero 2, you should expect a cleaner sound where you get the feeling you can hear more while still having a good amount of bass, but less so than on the Buds Pro. It will work better for all kinds of music with guitar work for example, but you will probably feel a bit less "thickness" and oomph in the sound when listening to electronic stuff.
I hope that helps a bit. What music do you listen too? Do you have any preferences regarding sound?
Seal and Fit in general are nice, but the "sharp" edges of the IEM are hurting my ears after a while.
Do you have a shape you prefer and which feels comfortable to you? :)
Could you review the KZ EDX Pro, mate?
Damn dude that one is quite old, dont know if I will buy the EDX. But what do you wanna know? Maybe I can help you without doing a whole video haha.
For those who dislike a certain tuning, why not just fukken get a DAP that has a custom EQ??? I do, and I can get the exact sound I like! I just got the CHu Chu 2 and EQ'd it, done.
Thats actually a huge topic in the audio world! Why would you not buy a cheap IEM, tune it the way you and like be done with it?
For me personally, I kinda like to explore what the creator of the IEM wanted music to sound like. The difference between the headphones/IEMs themselves is what makes this interesting for me. If you want "your sound", than EQ is more valid here.
Also, its pretty unpractical to use EQ for me. I listen to music on my phone, PC, use it for recording with separate devices and for bass/guitar playing and whatnot which would require different tunings. It would just be exhausting to adjust the EQ every time, especially if you have more than one headphone/IEM.
Than of course, the huge elephant in the room: Even if you tune two IEMs/Headphones to the exact same tuning, it will not sound the same. Otherwise you could throw a cheap dynamic driver in everything and it wouldnt make sense that we have different driver combinations, sizes and stuff like planar drivers. I do not want to throw snake oil shit around here and I know that diminishing returns is definetly a thing. The whole IEM/Headphones game has became so good that you really do not need to pay that much to get a really good sound. But a 10mm dynamic driver sounds different than an 8mm dynamic or a 14,5mm planar for example. So there are reasons to get an IEM/Headphone that comes close to the tuning you like without EQ.
Compared to chu 2
And this which one is good for overall gaming, music listening
for gaming definitely zero 2, i heard chu 2 is a little more distracting sounding and less clean so for competitive gaming u will can focus on sounds better on zero 2
Yeah as the other guy said the Zero 2 is somewhat better, at least for me the Chu 2 has some weird things going on in the treble where it sounds a bit "dirty" (little edges in the sound coming through, makes it sound less clean).
Is the sound quality and clean , clarity is same as og zero? In og they sounded thin does it sound full now
Feels similar to me, just less harsh and with bass, so fuller. Still not a bassy or laid back IEM, but better than the first one.
Thanks for comparison but tanchjim one and hola would have been more appropriate.
You're welcome! :) Why do you think these two would be more fitting? I chose the Waner because it is such a well known and popular IEM that I also really like and the Chu 2 because it was released pretty recently and kind of fits in the same category regarding sound and price.
I actually have the Tanchjim One here and I really don't like it haha. Will also make a review for that one, just little time right now, but I have like 5-6 relatively new IEMs here that I have to go through.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews reason i called "one" fitting because of elevation in bass but not so much in treble and cleaner details at $25. Forget about laidback hola, i should not have mentioned it.
Which "one" do you have? 3.5mm or the type-c?
I have the Type-C one, and it has a reeeeally boosted upper midrange and treble. This combines with the weird comfort (I wanted to try these different shaped IEMs without the hooks) makes it pretty awful. Also feels really cheap, like alot cheaper than your usual budget IEM.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews i was prioritizing for "one" over zero 2 but your quality control issues seems serious. I have kz edxpro it has poor quality cable and how can it be worse than that! You are the first one to be so critical on quality on "one". Bullets are small, how can there be problematic fitting 😵. Is the problem only about hooks?
My phone has 3.5mm.
I am not yet done with my full assessment so take this with a grain of salt. I do not think it is broken, it just feels really cheap. Like the IEM itself has this greyish metal look on pictures but feels like really cheap plastic in reality, the Zero 2 feels 10x better just holding it. The shell itself (the translucent part) is fine. Cable is abit flimsy, but standard quality. Pretty much resembles the typical KZ cables in this price range.
Maybe my ears just do not work with the bullet design. I am still trying different eartips but they just feel really loose in my ear and with every movement I lose the seal, so less bass and more treble. Maybe people with smaller ear canals will appreciate them more, it actually feels too small for me.
The USB-C one also follows the Tanchjim target curve, which does have a little boost in the lower bass (but less so than the Zero 2) and then basically a thin lower midrange with an emphasis on the upper midrange (2k-3k), which combined sounds thin and shouty to me (at least up to this point, again I am not yet done, maybe I still need to find the right tips). The 3.5mm one sounds a bit different, more bass and thicker lower midrange which should make it less harsh, but still a bit bright. I would prefer the Zero 2 any day.
I have Kz ZS6 , how this compare to Salnotes Zero 2?
The zero 2s will stomp the zs6s in just about every conceivable way.
@@lordnikon4050 haha nice, I will order zero 2 right away
So I havent listened to the ZS6, but looking at the graph I can only concur with the other dude who answered your question: The Zero has a better tuning. The ZS6 seems to have significant boosts in the bass, upper treble and upper midrange. This is something KZ did with their earlier IEMs, basically was their "house-sound" in the past. The Zero will sound more balanced and natural with basically everything. Instruments and vocals will sound fuller but not in a bassy sense. With the ZS6, imagine strumming an acoustic guitar and getting a bright, kinda thin sound. The Zero 2 wont do that and will sound more real. Sometimes midrange is difficult to describe haha and I need to work on that, like describing some sounds.
It is still not a laidback IEM (but if you are used to the ZS6, you should be fine) but has nice bass and will not be as harsh to your ears.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews thankyou for your detailed reply, can't wait for Zero 2 😂
Is the 7 Hz Crinacle Zero 2 better than the 7 Hz salnotes zero? for FPS games where I need to know how far away and where the sound of enemy footsteps is coming from?
short answer newer is better also if you only want imaging get something that only emphasizes the footstep range and has good imaging. or tune to that yourself. if ur that hard core go do it for any decent iem. poor sound lol but youll get that function
"Can you recommend IEMs that emphasize the footstep range and imaging? Also, how can I tune my IEMs myself to better hear footsteps in terms of distance and direction?"
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@@kelvenaguiar1073 qkz x hbb and castor bass, is probably the best in the price range for imaging.
7hz zero 2 or moondrop chu 2? Which is the best? Pliss
zero 2 better, less distracting overall
I Like the Zero 2 more. The Chu has a little more bass and is a bit more punchy, but the Zero 2 just has an overall more natural sound and still nicely present bass. Treble is also better on the Zero 2, sounds cleaner and more pleasant to my ears.
This or tanzu waner s.g for gaming and music ?. Im new to iem .
Both are really good, but I think the Zero 2 is alittle better for you. Waner is a very smooth sounding IEM, Zero 2 could be better for gaming since it works a bit better for footsteps and stuff. Depending on what music you are listening too, the Zero also has cleaner while still very present bass. If you are not especially sensitive to treble (does music sound harsh to you fast?) I would take the Zero 2.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews thanks I'll check it out.
Can u recommend best DAC for zero 2 ?
You do not need any special DAC for the Zero 2. Just get something like the Moondrop Click if you want to go cheap (usb-c cables break easily though if bend alot) or the Truthear Shio. Detachable cables are always a big plus for mobile use, but these DACs are usually more expensive.
Bruh i just bought the waner now i got to save money again
Dude do not buy any IEM just because it gets good reviews, the Waner is completly fine and maybe even better for you, who knows. :) If you want to go up the ladder save a bit of money and take a look at more expensive IEMs like the Truthear Hexa, Tangzu Fudu or Moondrop Aria 2. Will feel more like an upgrade to you then.
Recommend me a bassy IEM under 50$
The Blon Jojo sounds nice if you're looking for bass, but comfort really depends on your ears (getting a good seal can be difficult). The Hidizs MS-1 Galaxy is also a relaxed and bassy IEM and pretty cheap.
How is the bass compared to Truthear hola
Zero 2 is somewhat bassier if I remember the Hola correct. Although the graphs show that Hola should have sufficient bass for most genres, it always felt kinda flat to me and just weak regarding impact and stuff. Do not have this problem with the Zero 2. All in all Zero is more intense sounding though, Hola is pretty laid back.
@@absolutelyaverageaudioreviews absolutely agree with you. Hola lacks the punch and oomph in bass region also I find it less detailed.
Does salnotes zero 2 comes with mic? Pls reply plss fastt
no this doesn't come with mic option
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For gaming zero:2 or chu 2?
I prefer the Zero, sounds alittle cleaner with directional audio.
Where can you buy these places wise?
I buy most of my IEMs at Linsoul and Shenzhenaudio, these two are basically THE big sellers in the Chifi market. They have most of their stuff on Amazon, so you can buy stuff there if you have an account.
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Best iems under $40?
zero:2 this should be good for music and for gaming and i think even for competitive gaming should be pretty cuz it dont has a distracting sound but still has details just in less distracting way and not over emphasize them, ew200 is considered "good" but definitely not good for many hours of use and also very distracting sound so zero 2 is definitely a good all rounder
"Best" is really subjective, it highly depends on what music do you listen too. The Zero 2 is a really good allrounder and for under 40 could be considered one of the best for most people. If you like a more bassy sound, take a look at the TRN MT4, I really like that one, just as the new KZ Castor. If you want a loooot of bass and laid back sound and you do not care for clean midrange, the Hidisz MS1 is comfortable and nice for bass heavy music.
tanchjim one, and ew200 are the best under $40. Castor, tangzu, and zero 2, win the 25$ dollar department.
Don’t buy it if you want a more solid, bassy sound! I have both versions and they are the same basically, the second has a tiny bit more bass that’s all…..and it’s not much!
Loads of bass on the Zero 2 if you have a good fit and know how to EQ
@@kona328WH I have Fiio players which have amazing sound plus EQ, but these headphones are distinctly average on bass. But if you like them great!
Price?
Around 25€ where I live.
with mice or without ??
What do you mean? :)
without mic
mice are cute but they might chew through the cable
@@aesononeYou clip them on the cable, they cant chew it. I would take the one with mice.
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