I loved these Fieros as an 80s teenager,I wanted one because I knew I couldn't afford a C4 Corvette,but now I finally got my beautiful white 87 Corvette coupe,but I still love these to...I love the 80s period!!!
My 86 2M6 (5-speed standard) only has 5,1xx miles on it. Original everything, not restored. It only had 632 miles on it when I bought it from a collector. True story. :-) Watch those "in the world" claims.
Either yours had a new transmission installed or it’s a very, VERY late 86 model because the Getrag 5-speed was introduced in the 1987 model. The four cylinder model had a 5-speed in 1986 but that was an Isuzu-produced unit and was not used in the V6 model.
I say buy it.there cheap to keep on the road and a ton of upgrades from 3.8 supercharged engines to eat mustangs gt alive LOL or V8 4.9L 0-116.7 in 11.2 sec plus supercar body kits that make you stand out off the crowd I own a 87 since 1997 with $13,000 in upgrades.I say this one is a cherry an very rare to fine.
I understand what your saying. I have owned 1, I bought a 87 fiero in 1992, it had just over 70,000 miles on it and I had it in the shop at least a dozen times in the 2 years I owned it. At the time, I talked to several fiero owners and 80% said they didn't like the reliability of them. BUT, That car was a BLAST to drive! I wont knock them for that! VERY fun car!
I've heard that this car was originally designed by John DeLorean. He was planning the car that would later become the DMC-12. When GM fired DeLorean, they locked him out of his office where the plans for this car were. Years later Pontiac took the plans and created the Fiero. Supposedly when GM execs found out where the idea for this car really came from they killed it off because GM was still holding a grudge against DeLorean. Damn shame because not only was this an awesome car, what Pontiac had planned for 1989 was gonna be even better.
Not sure about John being behind this car. Sure, the Delorean has a similar GT styling but they were designed by two different people. John went with a steel frame where as this was plastic. It would make sense tho, considering both were designed to stay on the road without rusting, and both have a rear or mid engine layout..
No the sell of Corvettes were down because people were buying theses instead they complained and the fiero was done.Some say in secret that GM bought the DMC12 dyes and got rid of them funny how then the fiero came out all of a sudden with the car after Delorean was gone.My husband and I had a DMC but I would take a Fiero over one of them if I had too do it all over with.
That is total BS. I watched my Dad lay out that car on Christmas break in our drafting room in our house. He hated DeLorean as a poser windbag. The DMC was a horrible heavy car, underpowered with poor handling. Dad designed a fast nimble car that GM wrecked by only letting him use a Chevette suspension and the old iron duke engine. Where do you get this total stupid shit from? I was with him in the wind tunnel testing in CA.
There's about a dozen Fieros with lower mileage, but most of them you couldn't just take out and drive because they still have all the original fluids and rubber parts on them.
I just bought a 1987 Fiero GT off a Marine, it needs a bit of cosmetic work (needs some trim and the quarter glass panels) and the paint is faded in a number of spots. Interior could use some work. And I had to replace the distributor cap and flush out the tank. Plus the suspension sounds like it needs to be replaced BUT for $900, this is one hell of a project car! Plus even in her current state, she turns heads and impresses!
Hey man love your video on this old girl here.. Yes even though the early models caught fire due to header leaks the later versions like the 1987-to 1988 were were just like you said Amazing. Tropical GM i don't know why they killed the rest of the new breeds of fiero's and it all just ended there.. For my self Love fiero's those little fast cars kind of rare now....thanks the GM but any ways love the video keep posting new one when you can. YOUR FIERO FAN --Omario
@patwregan Fieros actually have little plastic, when compared to the fiero's actual weight. The fiero has around 175-225lbs of various body panels on it, depending on trim. The fiero weighs between 2550 and 2850lbs, again depending on trim. The panels are purely cosmetic and carry no load, and are bolted to a 650lb steel spaceframe.The fiero is fully driveable without its skin, and retains all sefety features. I stripped one down, put studded tires on it and turned it into a dune buggy :D
@omario35 1984 models were prone to connecting rod failure due to a low 3-quart oil capacity, combined with the "its a mid-engine sports car" abuse. The rod would break, exit the block and spray oil on the catalytic converter. According to the NHTSA, there were only 135 confirmed complaints of fire in 1984-1988 Fieros. They recalled the car, which added new heat shields, along with a recalibrated dipstick and larger oil filter, which increased the oil capacity to 4.0 Quarts. :)
Not always true. I bought my '85 Sport 2 years back for $1600, with 178,000 miles on it, and it just goes and goes. With the exception of the drivers door skin, it is all original paint and it is as slick as you'll ever find. The body shop instructor at my local university says it's the cleanest one he's ever seen and he's seen quite a few. It does have its quirks, but there's something about mid engine cars that just speaks to me. Oh, and it gets 30 miles to the gallon.
My first car was a 1987 Fiero GT 5 speed which was my daily driver (and I worked far) for 9 years. Just the cooling fan switch went out in that decade. I bought it used with 33k miles. When I sold it: 127k miles. I have a 2006 RSX-S now with only 25k miles that I'm thinking about selling to pursue another Fiero GT, this time a 1988. There's one for sale in Washington that has never been sold/titled with only 211 miles, but they want $40,000 bucks for it. There's a sweet '88 with only 46k miles but it's for sale on the other side of the U.S. from where I live. Otherwise I would offer to swap cars.
the fiero`s are neat little things for what they are, no doubt about it, i never get it when people trash talk them, i bet most of those haven't ever even been anywhere near one much less driven/owned one. nimble and agile little things, especially the GTs look great, and they are getting fairly popular among collectors and enthusiasts, so you can't possibly loose money on one unless you don't trash it of course. plus with todays aftermarket possibilities you can truly build them into rockets.
@pdgable You do realize very few fieros have actually caught fire, right? According to the NHTSA VSR, there have only been 135 confirmed engine fires in 1984-1988 pontiac fieros. Fires were almost entirely exclusive to the 1984 model year. The fiero was recalled and the problem was fixed by early 1986. Any fieros to catch fire today would most likely be caused by shadetree, hilbilly repairs. Most fieros have over 100,000 miles on them by now. How much longer do we have to wait?
I wish they kept pontiac, I would have gotten a G8 GXP with a 6spd. vs my now current SRT8 392 challenger. only one with a 6spd, not even the charger has it. or the 300. which is a sleep in itself.
Very nice One of the rumors was GM killed it cause Pontiac was going to put the 3.4 DOHC v6 in the 1989 model Bring it too close to the corvette performance for less money
The Fiero illustrates what was wrong about GM. They had a great idea for a high mpg commuter car, and the gas miliage on these was/is terrific.By pure luck the design turned out to be a great poor man's sports car design. They refined it to perfection, then of course they killed it! By 1988 these were awesome cars for their time, although still with that crappy GM fit and finish. I have a 86 gt and it's a ton of fun.
There are still plenty of Fieros on the road in excellent condition, so apparently lots of people would want that so called POS. I would not mind owning one myself.
damum i have this same exzact car but mines a red 1988 fiero gt and its just as good condition as this one but with 68k miles and i only paid $8,500 for it.
Love pontiac ...own a 77 firebird all stock and awesome but the fiero I've always heard problems about them ...I'd buy one just to drive though ...that's my opinion though :)
odo rolled back...lol i got a 218k miles fiero and its still awesome except the need for diff bushing/mounts i think as it clunks at times when i shift in and out too fast
Had a 87 GT standard V6 and loved the car. Drove it to Florida from Ar. Two times and never had any problems. Great fun car! My wife and I really miss it. Time to buy one again. I hate it when people bad mouth these great little cars. I am a Ford man, but love my Fiero!
I agree with you. I dont mean any disrespect to the fiero lovers but yes, if you bought this car, its still a fiero. These cars were VERY well known as "LEMONS", VERY unreliable car, unless you wanna work on them for a week, so you can drive it for a day. I dont care how few of miles it has, I wouldnt buy the damn thing.
1987-2012 = 30 years? Lol. Nice car. Only problem is you can't get parts and that rear engine had a tendency to catch on fire. I had this car in white. Lemon
I loved these Fieros as an 80s teenager,I wanted one because I knew I couldn't afford a C4 Corvette,but now I finally got my beautiful white 87 Corvette coupe,but I still love these to...I love the 80s period!!!
Next time you're in the DC Area, come check us out. we currently have a bunch of 80s cars in!
@GammaRays134 DO you have pictures of that dune buggy?
HOW MUCH?
My 86 2M6 (5-speed standard) only has 5,1xx miles on it. Original everything, not restored. It only had 632 miles on it when I bought it from a collector. True story. :-) Watch those "in the world" claims.
right , it's not as if salesmen ever you hyperbole to "sell" a car. besides he said maybe
Either yours had a new transmission installed or it’s a very, VERY late 86 model because the Getrag 5-speed was introduced in the 1987 model. The four cylinder model had a 5-speed in 1986 but that was an Isuzu-produced unit and was not used in the V6 model.
this car is same age as me
I say buy it.there cheap to keep on the road and a ton of upgrades from 3.8 supercharged engines to eat mustangs gt alive LOL or V8 4.9L 0-116.7 in 11.2 sec plus supercar body kits that make you stand out off the crowd I own a 87 since 1997 with $13,000 in upgrades.I say this one is a cherry an very rare to fine.
Like the blue joke at 1:08. Like my mom always says "if you remember the 80s, you weren't there"
i love when you do the drive bys at the end. really completes the video
I understand what your saying. I have owned 1, I bought a 87 fiero in 1992, it had just over 70,000 miles on it and I had it in the shop at least a dozen times in the 2 years I owned it. At the time, I talked to several fiero owners and 80% said they didn't like the reliability of them. BUT, That car was a BLAST to drive! I wont knock them for that! VERY fun car!
I've heard that this car was originally designed by John DeLorean. He was planning the car that would later become the DMC-12. When GM fired DeLorean, they locked him out of his office where the plans for this car were. Years later Pontiac took the plans and created the Fiero. Supposedly when GM execs found out where the idea for this car really came from they killed it off because GM was still holding a grudge against DeLorean. Damn shame because not only was this an awesome car, what Pontiac had planned for 1989 was gonna be even better.
Not sure about John being behind this car. Sure, the Delorean has a similar GT styling but they were designed by two different people. John went with a steel frame where as this was plastic. It would make sense tho, considering both were designed to stay on the road without rusting, and both have a rear or mid engine layout..
No the sell of Corvettes were down because people were buying theses instead they complained and the fiero was done.Some say in secret that GM bought the DMC12 dyes and got rid of them funny how then the fiero came out all of a sudden with the car after Delorean was gone.My husband and I had a DMC but I would take a Fiero over one of them if I had too do it all over with.
That is total BS. I watched my Dad lay out that car on Christmas break in our drafting room in our house. He hated DeLorean as a poser windbag. The DMC was a horrible heavy car, underpowered with poor handling. Dad designed a fast nimble car that GM wrecked by only letting him use a Chevette suspension and the old iron duke engine. Where do you get this total stupid shit from? I was with him in the wind tunnel testing in CA.
@@jamesfalardeau3886friggin cool man! 👍
I just purchased a 87 from bat auctions with only 11k miles.... It looks identical
There's about a dozen Fieros with lower mileage, but most of them you couldn't just take out and drive because they still have all the original fluids and rubber parts on them.
I got 35 thousand miles on a 3.8 supercharged hehe nice fiero nine was the same color
Thanks Earl!
I just bought a 1987 Fiero GT off a Marine, it needs a bit of cosmetic work (needs some trim and the quarter glass panels) and the paint is faded in a number of spots. Interior could use some work. And I had to replace the distributor cap and flush out the tank. Plus the suspension sounds like it needs to be replaced
BUT for $900, this is one hell of a project car! Plus even in her current state, she turns heads and impresses!
i got a 86 gt these fieros are very nice cars.
Looks like the frame is damaged as seen at 6:33.. look at the gap between the front bumper cover and the fender.. That aint right..
Stan Skaggs thats how all of the are its how mine is and its never been in a wreck
Hey man love your video on this old girl here.. Yes even though the early models caught fire due to header leaks the later versions like the 1987-to 1988 were were just like you said Amazing. Tropical GM i don't know why they killed the rest of the new breeds of fiero's and it all just ended there.. For my self Love fiero's those little fast cars kind of rare now....thanks the GM but any ways love the video keep posting new one when you can.
YOUR FIERO FAN
--Omario
As long as the Fiero Store stays in business, there will always be parts to restore and maintain the Fiero. :-)
25 years old not 30+ years
@patwregan Fieros actually have little plastic, when compared to the fiero's actual weight. The fiero has around 175-225lbs of various body panels on it, depending on trim. The fiero weighs between 2550 and 2850lbs, again depending on trim. The panels are purely cosmetic and carry no load, and are bolted to a 650lb steel spaceframe.The fiero is fully driveable without its skin, and retains all sefety features. I stripped one down, put studded tires on it and turned it into a dune buggy :D
@omario35 1984 models were prone to connecting rod failure due to a low 3-quart oil capacity, combined with the "its a mid-engine sports car" abuse. The rod would break, exit the block and spray oil on the catalytic converter. According to the NHTSA, there were only 135 confirmed complaints of fire in 1984-1988 Fieros. They recalled the car, which added new heat shields, along with a recalibrated dipstick and larger oil filter, which increased the oil capacity to 4.0 Quarts. :)
Not always true. I bought my '85 Sport 2 years back for $1600, with 178,000 miles on it, and it just goes and goes. With the exception of the drivers door skin, it is all original paint and it is as slick as you'll ever find. The body shop instructor at my local university says it's the cleanest one he's ever seen and he's seen quite a few. It does have its quirks, but there's something about mid engine cars that just speaks to me. Oh, and it gets 30 miles to the gallon.
My dad has a 1984 Indy pace car with 3,000 original miles and still has the window stickers and it's perfect and it's for sale
My first car was a 1987 Fiero GT 5 speed which was my daily driver (and I worked far) for 9 years. Just the cooling fan switch went out in that decade. I bought it used with 33k miles. When I sold it: 127k miles. I have a 2006 RSX-S now with only 25k miles that I'm thinking about selling to pursue another Fiero GT, this time a 1988. There's one for sale in Washington that has never been sold/titled with only 211 miles, but they want $40,000 bucks for it. There's a sweet '88 with only 46k miles but it's for sale on the other side of the U.S. from where I live. Otherwise I would offer to swap cars.
I love Fieros!! my secind favorite car of all time!
the fiero`s are neat little things for what they are, no doubt about it, i never get it when people trash talk them, i bet most of those haven't ever even been anywhere near one much less driven/owned one. nimble and agile little things, especially the GTs look great, and they are getting fairly popular among collectors and enthusiasts, so you can't possibly loose money on one unless you don't trash it of course. plus with todays aftermarket possibilities you can truly build them into rockets.
I bought mine for 700 bucks in Cali then payed 400 in brake work and drove it 1800 miles back home to Texas. Its a 1985 Fiero GT
A lot of ridiculouse misconceptions about these cars. Ive owned five GT's and 4 cylinders. Lots of fun and very reliable.
@pdgable You do realize very few fieros have actually caught fire, right? According to the NHTSA VSR, there have only been 135 confirmed engine fires in 1984-1988 pontiac fieros. Fires were almost entirely exclusive to the 1984 model year. The fiero was recalled and the problem was fixed by early 1986. Any fieros to catch fire today would most likely be caused by shadetree, hilbilly repairs. Most fieros have over 100,000 miles on them by now. How much longer do we have to wait?
if you get ahold of one of these, youll never part with it
I wish they could have kept Pontiac I was going to by a G8 GXP and THEEEEEN.. bleth..
My 1984 fiero 2m4 has 22k miles
I wish they kept pontiac, I would have gotten a G8 GXP with a 6spd. vs my now current SRT8 392 challenger. only one with a 6spd, not even the charger has it. or the 300. which is a sleep in itself.
Does this guy ever test drive the cars? I mean it would be nice to get a go-pro on board with him in a test drive.
Very nice
One of the rumors was GM killed it cause Pontiac was going to put the 3.4 DOHC v6 in the 1989 model
Bring it too close to the corvette performance for less money
mine had 60k miles on it when i bought it. same thing, original tires, brakes. everything. stickers on body panels the works. man i miss that car :'(
I would love one and just change the interior.
The Fiero illustrates what was wrong about GM. They had a great idea for a high mpg commuter car, and the gas miliage on these was/is terrific.By pure luck the design turned out to be a great poor man's sports car design. They refined it to perfection, then of course they killed it! By 1988 these were awesome cars for their time, although still with that crappy GM fit and finish. I have a 86 gt and it's a ton of fun.
There are still plenty of Fieros on the road in excellent condition, so apparently lots of people would want that so called POS. I would not mind owning one myself.
Just bought an 87 with only 11k
@partyfriek
Why?
damum i have this same exzact car but mines a red 1988 fiero gt and its just as good condition as this one but with 68k miles and i only paid $8,500 for it.
i got an 88 gt. fun cars.
only part i dont like is its automatic
Love pontiac ...own a 77 firebird all stock and awesome but the fiero I've always heard problems about them ...I'd buy one just to drive though ...that's my opinion though :)
sold?
nice car and video , bought one brand new in 87 bright blue metallic , awesome car . did i mention the girls loved it ?
All these videos state a Test Drive! I have yet to see him really test drive a car????
30 plus years?.... um its a 25 year old car :)
80's style, nothing like it
the fact that they "got it right about now... 87" has nothing to do with the fact he selling one folks!!!! is just plain coincidence!
I want one of these things so much i recon it's probably unhealthy lol
I watched the 88 mustang too
odo rolled back...lol i got a 218k miles fiero and its still awesome except the need for diff bushing/mounts i think as it clunks at times when i shift in and out too fast
Had a 87 GT standard V6 and loved the car. Drove it to Florida from Ar. Two times and never had any problems. Great fun car! My wife and I really miss it. Time to buy one again. I hate it when people bad mouth these great little cars. I am a Ford man, but love my Fiero!
I want this car
sweet!
@joewhiteyipee
It's perfect the way it is
It surely is a nice '87. But the '88 are the best by far.
I agree with you. I dont mean any disrespect to the fiero lovers but yes, if you bought this car, its still a fiero. These cars were VERY well known as "LEMONS", VERY unreliable car, unless you wanna work on them for a week, so you can drive it for a day. I dont care how few of miles it has, I wouldnt buy the damn thing.
only 5667 miles- wow
original owner was too embarrassed to drive it
how many plastic trees had to be killed to make this abomination?
1987-2012 = 30 years? Lol. Nice car. Only problem is you can't get parts and that rear engine had a tendency to catch on fire. I had this car in white. Lemon