To address a few suggestions on here: 1. I am not being paid by Toyota and they did not give me a free car. 2. It’s not a massive round trip to refuel. There are two stations within five miles of my house (one of the reasons I wanted to try an H2 car). 3. I know how most hydrogen is currently produced. 4. The bit about the flowers growing is a gag. 5. Now sod off.
Bit touchy, nothing wrong with a bit of balance. Was about to say green Hydrogen should sort things out when we can produce enough of it. The bit about killing joggers was a gag.
Hi James, I work as a marine design engineer by trade, so I understand the issues with green drives and I am quite interested in fuel cell technology. One thing I can't help thinking, do you think Toyota may have missed a trick by not making it plug in with a commuter-scale battery in addition to the fuel cell and tanks? The two drivetrain types seem to be quite complementary: - Batteries are compatible with the household, lower energy varieties can stand up to more frequent use then fuel cells, and are efficient enough to chow down on costs and location inconvenience and workplace charging and use of them reduces demand on building H2 stations! - Fuel cells can accept hydrogen, a transferable gas that allows for scalable energy content and fast transfer from a major station for occasioanal long journeys, at the cost of lower efficiency. As H2 FC vehicles actually utilise small batteries anyway to help buffer the power output of the slow-throttling fuel cell, it would actually take that much more battery. If one conservatively assumes a high-durability chemistry at 8 kg / kWh and a daily range of 30 miles at 3 miles/kWh, that's about 80 kilos of battery at worst? Not much considering a Tesla has a battery typically about 500kg and the bigger battery displacing some tank volume in a rectilinear form. As you are someone who owns a Tesla (I think) as well as this car, I thought it'd be interesting to hear from you.
James is not an influencer. He does not need Toyota's free car or freebies in general like the JWWs and Stupidcar Blondies of this world. Cheers, mate. Enjoy the vapour mobile.
I would love to try out the Mirai but I'm in Devon... There are no H2 stations about. Really need them rolled out across the country quickly otherwise I don't think H2 cars will take off here any time soon.
HP and torque are not relevant on such a vehicle. It's not meant for racing (as most cars aren't) Comfort and safety however are important, as it appears to be designed as a commuter car.
@@luigiwastaken the term youtuber refers to someone who creates content specifically for TH-cam in a professional, amateur or hobbyist capacity. TH-cam is a platform. Yes. But people specifically have careers based on said platform. Thus the term "youtuber" is born.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat why is it silly to say? This format is literally no different than anything he's done in the past 15 years it's just that it was uploaded to TH-cam ...
@@mariuscaminschi2742 Top Gear was mature. This is exactly what Top Gear was in it's original form, except this is more entertaining because it's James May. It was a car show that reviewed cars in detail. It was many years later that it evolved into the Top Gear most people know. :-)
Very funny, but I remember hearing that the "new car smell" is actually carcinogenic chemicals (e.g, glue) and some manufacturers actually air out new cars to rid new cars of that smell.
What I really appreciate about James is he genuinely loves engineering. He doesn't attach weird personal views and insecurities to his analysis of just a very interesting machine.
I realize that car reviews are sort of James' bread & butter so no one should be surprised, but I thought this one was very well made, informative & enjoyable.
Problem is, that hydrogen is a fool's errand. At least if you're arguing about shifting to hydrogen, instead of fossil fuels (currently hydrogen is nothing but a fossil fuel actually), and will be for a very long time. It doesn't make sense to create green energy, and then waste it by creating hydrogen from electrolysis, as that same energy could be much better spent on charging your car or powering everything else in your home, including heating. th-cam.com/video/2EA4tDYwNYo/w-d-xo.html
What I love most of all of James May is that in TopGear he got the image of 'the old fashioned one', but by the looks of it he's actually the one from the trio who's the most knowledgeable and serious about the future and nowadays' technology.
As time goes by, I'm realising more and more how talented James is. His work is always of amazing quality. I genuinely think he's the best of Top Gear and GT.
James May is such a treasure. I aspire to be like him, moving on and embracing the future rather than holding on to the past. I would absolutely love to take part in this anti-pollution revolution once it becomes more affordable for me. Until then, I'll continue cutting down my usage of harmful energy sources. Thank you guys at DriveTribe for documenting all this as well! Having such an experienced reviewer like May drive cars like this gives me confidence in the performance of these types of cars.
I work with patents and I keep seeing strong R&D in fuel cells, although in the media EVs are praised as the future of vehicles. My guess is that not only the OEMs bet in various tech, but fuel cell can diversify the vehicle's fleet in terms of energy source and materials. It might put less stress on the grid and require less lithium for example
I've always thought hydrogen vehicles should be the future, even since I saw James review the Honda Clarity on Top Gear.# They have all the convenience of petrol / diesel vehicles when it comes to refuelling, with all the environmental benefits of battery vehicles. Plus, as you mentioned, they probably use less energy and fewer resources in the manufacturing process...and won't cause the national grid to go into meltdown.
@@phantomechelon3628 Nothing has the energy density of hydrocarbons. Especially when you consider if we were to develop synthetic fuels we could actually invent hydrocarbons with even more energy density than kerosene.
@@RoScFan You're missing the point. We don't want...or need hydrocarbon fuels. They're a major reason we're in this environmental mess. Hydrogen on its own produces no harmful pollutants. Hence why fuel cell R&D needs to be pushed. At least until battery and charging technology has reached a point to make them more practical.
My guess was they charged more for the first Mirai to pay for R and D costs, then they could charge less for the finished product once they knew it was more road worthy
I thought the same!!!! And what about the tram lines in 8 shape!! James, Jeremy and Richard are the best! Looking forward to have much more content from them
Sometimes it’s unavoidable to get those sort of “gooseneck” tramlines. With odd shaped fields, often ones with a diagonal edge, your set GPS A B lines,which are parallel to your original A B line, just position themselves to where your specific implement (for example a sprayer) sections will first turn on to minimise Over application and the only way to achieve this is by u turning. Particularly in this country where we have mainly smaller fields compared to places like America or Australia, it is somewhat less common to have a perfectly square field that gives you ‘perfect’ tramlines without u turns. However, some of the fields in the video where root vegetables or tuners (probably potatoes, carrots or sugar beet) so they had straight tramlines without any visible turns as you don’t bother planting the headlands as it’s too awkward to access the rows without damaging them and therefore don’t get the gooseneck tramlines. Sorry for the long comment, I got a bit carried away!
@@nrusimhanseshadri9993 Lexus IS Toyota. It's only a more luxurious line of cars... so it's not more a Lexus than Toyota. Yet you are correct that it is more like a lexus as the interior and the basis are of the more luxurious line as used in lexus'
Yeah, I think they shot themselves in the foot with the styling of each generation Prius and the previous Mirai. I think most people wouldn't be seen dead in one and it has really harmed the uptake of EVs.
Sandy monroe was talking about a cool new tech the other day where they have these discs that look like a purple CD and they hit it with a lazer and hydrogen comes off them and can be used as a fuel source. The discs are totally inert without the lazer and are produces through like recycled sewer gasses or something. It was frickin unreal if that could be scaled
@@iainansell5930 I love the idea of those stations that produce right on site. It's just very either electricity hungry to produce or using natural gas to produce. Just like EV charging it really depends where the electricity is coming from if it's environmentally friendly or not. Every time you convert an energy source there are efficiency losses. So right now in ev will go farther on the electricity used to convert the hydrogen than a fuel cell vehicle can go using that hydrogen that is produced. In some ways it's similar to gas in that an ev can drive about 30 Miles just on the electricity that is needed to refine one gallon of gas. All the refining and processing requires large amounts of electricity so in some ways it makes more sense to just put that electricity straight into an ev rather than losing energy along the processing process. But Evs don't work for all applications so we need other technologies as well to cover all use cases.
@@iainansell5930 I did some calculations the other day. I can drive my EV about 500kms on 80kwh of power. It takes about 80kwh of power to make 2kgs of hydrogen. 2 kgs of hydrogen can drive you about 200kms in a fuel cell car.
FOR the FIRST TIME, DRIVETRIVE has finally brought in the Actual Top Gear, Grand Tour Production feel. The script is there at par with Cars of the People Show. No wonder, these three are called the "HOLY TRINITY" of the Automotive World.
1:33 lots of physical controls, knobs and levers. Love it. Quite sure I could press those blind without worrying of pressing something wrong compared to touchscreens. Wish EV manufacturers like Ford and Tesla didn't move too many functions to the touchscreen...
I agree. To operate touchscreens and touch buttons successfully requires precise finger coordination and taking your eyes off the road for way too long. It'll get worse because I heard there's cars with touch buttons on the steering wheel. There's going to be lots of accidental touches and then more time with eyes off the road to undo what you've just accidentally touched.
the new mirai evolved quite nicely imo. it used to look like a compressed block of depression, now it looks like a car batman would drive if he was an environmentalist businessman.
After being fed on a diet on TH-camrs, it's refreshing to watch a review by an actual TV presenter. And honestly, James, Richard and Jeremy are the best presenters I have ever seen - fabulous individually and fantastic as a trio!
In fairness, you can't say that Hydrogen is a viable option in Germany, at best it's a viable option for _some_ , those that live close to certain bigger cities. But if you don't there are unreasonable gaps. The closest Hydrogen station to me is about 60-70 kilometres away
@@arrowmouse and nothing ever changes or changes faar too slowly because not enough people care, to say, drive 60km just to get a full tank, as it's really inconvenient, so the demand stays the same, and no new stations are built.
The fact that the price decreased with such a spike in quality of both materials and of the car, as well as capabilities improved all around… it blew my mind
That's what happens when you aren't at the endpoint of developing a technology. Internal combustion engines have very little room left for improvement whereas electric and hydrogen powertrains do.
James May is the man. You can tell 'cos I caught this clip an hour after it was posted, already up to 5k likes. So glad he keeps in touch. Keep moving forward, brov. We're right behind you.
Insisting on having analogue dials is beyond you, James? Well, let me tell you something - not everyone can read digital speedometers properly! Like, those of us afflicted with dyscalculia for example. If it's an LCD display it can display literally anything, so why can't carmakers let us have the freedom of choice of whether to have a digital speedo or an analogue one?
This TH-cam video seemed to have the production levels of a multi-million pound TV show behind it. A genuine well-done to you guys for upping the stakes and producing such a high-quality film! Loved it and can’t wait to see more!
Why doesn’t Toyota put a hydrogen fuel station in all its dealerships. Tesla built charging stations throughout California and now Tesla’s are everywhere here.
This is ofcourse way to expensive to do. For a garage/dealership owning a normal petrol pump is already not viable unless u exploid it big time. An ultra simpel fuell cell pump will set you back 1,6 miljoen euro's to start with. That is more then the building and tools cost on a typical garage
That is indeed a problem. James said seven out of ten hydrogen stations are currently closed; if the one in Cobham closes as well he'll be stuck with a £65,000 garden ornament.
After reading your comment I tried to look online for stations in my part of Canada and all I could find were three locations, and none of them are within an hour’s drive from where I live 😢
That's becuase you need 1 million+ to build a station. And you can service 10 car total a day. Now remember fuel stations live off snack and coffee, Would you offer to take on the station and pay back the 1million in usual 8 year plus interest by selling 10 packets off overpriced crops a day... Or 100k rapid charger selling 25 full families with enough time to buy a 3 course meals.
James: I'm getting rid of my Mirai because I'm fed up with the lack of Hydrogen stations in the UK. Also James: I got a new Mirai! Makes perfect sense...
You didn’t seriously think James gives up on hydrogen fuel cell cars that easily, did you? He even made a segment on Top Gear in 2009 on the Honda Clarity, where he said that only hydrogen fuel cells allow us to use cars like we use petrol cars today, unlike battery electric vehicles. James has always been fascinated by the idea that you can just fill your car up in 3 minutes, drive 600+ miles, and all you leave behind is a trail of water drops.
@@KevinKickChannel Where do you get 600+ miles Toyota Mirai 2021 only has 400 miles and that's because they made it more aerodynamic but reduced the space in the rear passenger seat
Can we just appreciate how nice a video this is? It would have worked perfectly as a review for top gear/the grand tour, and although he talks about moving forward, this video takes me back to the nice times I had watching those in the past
@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Germany has the second biggest H2 network outside of Japan- or third, if you consider Califonia a country, so it's a surprise.
@@stewdean Yeah and a detriment to the state of H2 infrastructure worldwide. The only H2 sources for customers are probably in the big population centres like Munich, Berlin or NRW.
We now have Hydrogen powered busses at my work, (yes i'm a busdriver) next to the electric and diesel ones. And I can only say it brings the best of both worlds, the quiet and environmental friendliness of the EV and going towards the range and driving properties of the diesels. Let's hope they do get on with it and that Hydrogen powered cars will be just as accessible to the public in the near future as fossil fueled ones are.
The word 'mirai' (未来) in Japanese does actually mean 'future', therefore effectively implying that electric cars (whether fuel cell or battery powered) is the future of cars. Hopefully there will be more of these cars as well as infrastructure that support this in the future. Also battery and fuel cell shall be complementary to each other and not a competitor since the bottomline is that these technologies can help reduce people's reliance on fuel, at least at an automotive level.
Japan is actually quite far ahead in hydrogen electric cars, they have recognized they cant meet the needs on charging if all of them would go battery electric + battery electric is wasteful. Both of these facts are obvious and should lead to an end of "race of technology to make a better future", because this race is just money making, otherwise we would have gone this was long ago.
@@freddieparrydrums Sorry to ruin your fun mate, but percentage talk is always down playing it. Out of a million people, which there are quite a few in London, that 0.003% is 30 people. Now for me even one person dying would be objectively shocking and/or saddening. So i hope you understand that 30 people dying would be quite disastrous. Not trying to be annoying, but statistics are often tricky in the way they let us go over things so easily.
@@VNitrofrey "for me even one person dying would be objectively shocking" Utterly insane. What about the hundreds of millions who will die due to the economic crisis *caused by lockdowns that DON'T WORK?* The UN (who's incentive is to lowball it) says 300m people will starve in Africa alone due to the economic collapse. But you know, so long as one Londoner doesn't get a bad cold when they're already dying of cancer, that's all fine and dandy right? 80,000 excess cancer deaths due to the NHS closing doors and the insane backlog. Doesn't count right, because it's not the political virus. One life. Just one. Pathetic. You've been brainwashed.
@「 Deadpoppin 」 Anyone who still thinks this is about a virus is willfully ignorant. Anyone who doesn't know that this is about the economy, and covering for the insane ultra-Keynsian economic policies that have made complete collapse inevitable is just brainwashed. Ask yourself this - why is basic economics, one of the most useful subjects known to humanity, not taught in schools? Answer that and you'll discover the reason why lockdown brainwashing is happening.
toyota, kia/hyundai and honda could put their money where their mouth is and install a hydrogen pump at their dealerships........ nissan did for ev stations... i know its more expensive... but if companie like esso and bp see a market for it, they'll start installing them... it didn't take long for LPG infrastructure to take off did it?
Hydrogen is a highly reactive unstable atom. There have been many plants that exploded. That is why Hydrogen isn't fully out yet. They couldn't store it properly.
@@SzabeeHUN you mean nobody prepared to pay for it. Government have gone cold now the EV industry is building its own infrastructure,, universities have done the maths and can't see viability,, companies can't see how they can make a profit.
@@n8pls543 Lithium is actually quite worse. You can actually create hydrogen from water by electrolysis so there's ample supply in the long run. Lithium cobalt etc are very limited.
The government's push for electric cars is strangling innovation in this area. Hydrogen is undoubtable a better solution than BEV, but the government is blinkered.
Hydrogen Cars are dead on arrival. It's far less efficient to fill up the hydrogen cells and then convert them into electricity than it is to just use electricity from the get go
Toyota, Hyundai, and Honda need to form a coalition and invest in Hydrogen infrastructure and generation the same way Tesla invested in the supercharger network.
Implementing a Hydrogen infrastructure is a bit more expensive than charging stations. If they start converting existing gas stations, which they'll need funding from the government, just like Tesla, it's possible. This is what Germany and Japan have been doing.
In America, the courts forced VW (and bmw and Mercedes) to spend money on "Electrify America", which has turned out rather well for them, because it is becoming easier to do long trips in another EV other than a Tesla) Now they are doing something similar with Ionity in Europe, and discovering that it is now possible to buy something other than a Tesla and it is possible to do longer trips in an EV in Europe now. In the early days, it was a well known secret that £10,000 of the purchase price of a Tesla was going towards building the supercharger network. (and another £10,000 towards building the factory that would be making the next generation car, the Model 3) This new Mirai is already £65,000 but no one is going to buy it, because of the lack of infrastruture. (unless you live near Cobham and only want to go 100 miles away and still be able to get backp) would people buy it f it was £75,000, and the infrasture would be expanding over the next year or two that it takes to build that many H2 filling stations?
How much has Tesla invested in generating the power, at metropolitan scales, that powers their Supercharger network?!? The energy distribution stations (be they electric or Hydrogen) are just a small--maybe the smallest--part of the total problem of getting energy into mobile vehicles. Tesla has started down the path of sourcing the power for their Supercharger network from their own battery backed solar panels; but who knows how far they have made this transition over the whole of their network. I can't find any current hard data--not rosy Elon assertions--as to how far they've really gotten with this.
It's too late. BEVs have already won this battle. VW, GM, Ford, etc, have already acknowledged this by the vehicles they have coming soon. Toyota dreamed of cornering the fuel market in Japan so they've refused to let this die. But it's a lost cause, even if one thinks it's better.
@@obscurazone Google fashion mag articles on the movie, or look at the movie credits to see who did the wardrobe and ask them, although 14 years is a long time. Contact May or someone in the DriveTribe team to ask if May can give you the brand.
Now that you mention it, I also notice that it has an uneven bottom cut and he's not wearing it tucked in, which cancels out some of those fashion points, no?
"all of this grew because I drove past in my Mirai" *Soft music* I was fully expecting the studio audience to applaud and the camera to swoop back in from overhead
Just a hint.. You can buy a Haltech digital display insert for any car.. has all the digital display options.. Plus a cheap gps head up display.. and a 12v dehumidifier.. that cleans the air.. So? My crapy old car does all that this car does.. So? What's new?
An even worse problem is that 3/4 of the energy is lost when using electric power to produce hydrogen. Hydrogen is a very nice power-source, but not viable unless there's s surplus of power ... which we're unlikely to have until someone manages to create fusion power-plants.
@@phel21 Actually it is very easy to have surplus green power and it is already happening. If the wind is blowing or the sun is shining (or both) and there is low consumption, you get excess power. Energy companies around the world pay their customers to use electricity because there is surplus power. There is talk in Australia about using giant solar farms in the desert to make electricity for green hydrogen. There is plenty of space for it. No need for science fiction.
But if we have solar panels at home using excess energy can't we produce hydrogen through electrolysis? Another question would be, how to store and pump it?
I remember seeing a Toyota Mirai past my school as me and my friend was walking near. I remember going, Yo Sammy, THATS THE MIRAI I WAS TALKING ABOUT! We were both happy to see how beautiful modern and clean technology is. I couldn't stop smiling that day :D
Now that you mentioned it. Given the fact that Captain Slow is a World War II veteran who has the highest number of Luftwaffe kills from Hammersmith. And he defeated Generalfeldmarschall von Clarkson during the North Africa Campaign. So yeah, a bit like that and James would love that.
Did I just miss it or has did James not mention this is built on the Lexus LS platform in either of the videos? Which is a large part of why it's so nice vs. the old one
I wanted so badly for the video ending with James pulling up to the Diddly Squat Shop and Jeremy turning up in either that Lambo tractor or the Madagascar Bentley, before yelling at James about why he's got yet another electric car.
I actually would prefer most cars to be hydrogen or "clean electric" , but give sports car a bit more flexibility since they're not being daily driving and are the Minority
Engines are phenomenal pieces of engineering and it's idiotic to throw out 150 years of innovation and advancement to try and use brute force of electric, and fail to solve any of the pressing issues of the automotive world. Engines can only get better, especially with synthetic fuel. Electric is a trend of the present but will not last into the future.
@C J B You realise that the main beneficiary of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles is the oil industry, right? Where did you think that the hydrogen was coming from?
@@littlebluepanda394 Where is your source? I see tons of new green hydrogen plants being built. None of them are oil companies. Air Liquide, Air Products, Linde, Iwatani, True Zero... Are these owned by the oil industry?
James have a uniqueness in him that is marvelous, clear minded speaker, center and eloquent, and this is being said from someone Who thinks 90% of the humanity is comprised of "idiots"... I simply enjoy every word his says because he chooses nicely what would come out from his mouth, now days that's "remarkable"
In the UK theres 11 hydrogen refilling stations, with only 2 in Scotland. Compared to BEV theres over 35,000 public charge points with thousands more being built and not including everyone’s house/driveway either.
And you can bet the fuel companies will monopolise hydrogen refill stations just like they did with fossil fuels, and make it overly expensive in the future. Pure electric freedom all the way.
Until you start getting hammered for the electricity used to charge the cars. Plus they will eventually pile on road tax to make up for the lost fuel duty. EVs were never about saving money and the government will make sure they aren't. Meanwhile my classic gains about 2-3k in value every year. Beat that with an electric car :)
@@BlatentlyFakeName here in Victoria Australia they passed legislation to do just that and they have started collected ODO meter readings to tax for road use. Im just waiting for the next bit which is electricity companies mandating different tariffs for charging cars at home. Im not against EV's, i really want to try it but at the moment a) EVs are wildly expensive to buy b) running an EV is getting costlier day by day so really we will have to wait and see how expensive it gets. Everyone is ranting and raving about how its cheap and cheerful owning an EV is and how it's the future... im sure it is right now... but those oil companies, electricity providers etc wont just let it go and they will find a way to earn something off the electric car...
@@Martin-jc6nu LPG typically cleaner than other fossil fuels, helping to improve air quality and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. ... Additionally, LPG emits virtually no soot; it doesn't pose a risk to soil and groundwater and emits lower nitrogen and sulphur oxides (NOx and SOx) than most other fuels.
@@hockeymann88 the production of hydrogen is changing companies are moving away from the burning methane method and going into producing hydrogen by use of the sun and renewable methods.
@Jimmy Edward As of Now. Look at battery tech 20 years ago. Things will progress. And seeing as airplane manufacturers are thinking of using hydrogen instead of batteries, it will probably move forward. It will take time, but we will probably get there.
@Jimmy Edward thats true of every energy source. Petrol requires more energy to produce than it contains, why do we do it? To make it into a convenient form thats why. The same applies to hydrogen. A 100kwh car battery weighs over 500kg and contains 360Mj of energy. thats the same as 3kg of hydrogen. account for 50% efficiency of fuel cell and you then require 6kg of hydrogen. 500kg vs 6kg!. The electricity in a BEV's batteries come from 20% efficient solar panels and 40% wind efficient wind turbines.
@@lillypichu4566 They will make H2 cheap to make everyone buy fuel cell cars. Once everyone jumps in, price of H2 will increase because guess what? You can only get H2 from fuel stations. BEV's can charge at home for free with solar panels or other renewables. You are in control.
8:07 It's most definitely something Toyota, or Honda or Hyundai can control. Just look at Tesla - was there any infrastructure when they released the Model S? No. Did they wait for fairies to build it? No. Tesla built its infrastructure, and if hydrogen manufacturers want to succeed, they have to build theirs too.
They won’t do it, hydrogen is a dead dog for personal transport as it’s only 20% as efficient as a BEV when you take into account the energy needed to make green hydrogen, the transportation, storage / pressurisation of the hydrogen and the inefficiency of the fuel cell. It models far better for larger transport.
Eric Pisch And wisdom would put larger transportation back onto the railways where it once proliferated, especially as night cargo. But childishness in a fast pace egotism fuelled world means babies must have their consumer entitlement the next day. When did we go into reverse at such a fast pace?
To address a few suggestions on here:
1. I am not being paid by Toyota and they did not give me a free car.
2. It’s not a massive round trip to refuel. There are two stations within five miles of my house (one of the reasons I wanted to try an H2 car).
3. I know how most hydrogen is currently produced.
4. The bit about the flowers growing is a gag.
5. Now sod off.
Bit touchy, nothing wrong with a bit of balance. Was about to say green Hydrogen should sort things out when we can produce enough of it. The bit about killing joggers was a gag.
Hi James,
I work as a marine design engineer by trade, so I understand the issues with green drives and I am quite interested in fuel cell technology.
One thing I can't help thinking, do you think Toyota may have missed a trick by not making it plug in with a commuter-scale battery in addition to the fuel cell and tanks?
The two drivetrain types seem to be quite complementary:
- Batteries are compatible with the household, lower energy varieties can stand up to more frequent use then fuel cells, and are efficient enough to chow down on costs and location inconvenience and workplace charging and use of them reduces demand on building H2 stations!
- Fuel cells can accept hydrogen, a transferable gas that allows for scalable energy content and fast transfer from a major station for occasioanal long journeys, at the cost of lower efficiency.
As H2 FC vehicles actually utilise small batteries anyway to help buffer the power output of the slow-throttling fuel cell, it would actually take that much more battery. If one conservatively assumes a high-durability chemistry at 8 kg / kWh and a daily range of 30 miles at 3 miles/kWh, that's about 80 kilos of battery at worst? Not much considering a Tesla has a battery typically about 500kg and the bigger battery displacing some tank volume in a rectilinear form.
As you are someone who owns a Tesla (I think) as well as this car, I thought it'd be interesting to hear from you.
Lol the flowers bit is the best bit
James is not an influencer. He does not need Toyota's free car or freebies in general like the JWWs and Stupidcar Blondies of this world. Cheers, mate. Enjoy the vapour mobile.
I would love to try out the Mirai but I'm in Devon... There are no H2 stations about. Really need them rolled out across the country quickly otherwise I don't think H2 cars will take off here any time soon.
James is the most fascinating motoring journalist ever, especially when he gets philosophical
You really need to follow "Regular car reviews" then 😅
He's brilliant.
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I can watch anything he stars in. 'James May ... Our Man in Japan' is still one of my favourites.
@@TheCronan I was gonna mention him myself. Dudes a genius
Other journalists: « it has X horsepower and Y pound-feet of torque ».
May: « no smell, like comment subscribe »
Best review. Love the guy.
HP and torque are not relevant on such a vehicle. It's not meant for racing (as most cars aren't)
Comfort and safety however are important, as it appears to be designed as a commuter car.
These days having no smell is a scary thing. You might want to stay at home for a while if you can't smell anything at all.
@@elimalinsky7069 Haha, that was my first thought as well, but then i figured if he had covid, Lucy would flip.
Newton meter
It's "not relevant" because he doesn't want to give a bad image. It's only 182hp. For £65k.
James May is literally becoming a genuine TH-camr... & he's doing a better job at it than most!
Yeah I'd watch a million of these. Keep making em!
He's been a "TH-camr" for decades now. TH-cam is a platform not a way of making videos.
@@luigiwastaken the term youtuber refers to someone who creates content specifically for TH-cam in a professional, amateur or hobbyist capacity.
TH-cam is a platform. Yes. But people specifically have careers based on said platform. Thus the term "youtuber" is born.
@@luigiwastaken Gonna be real with you Luig, pretty silly thing to say. No wonder everyone likes your brother more.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat why is it silly to say? This format is literally no different than anything he's done in the past 15 years it's just that it was uploaded to TH-cam ...
This feels like a matured, grown-up version of a Top Gear review
IF only it's Top Gear...🙂
Top gear wasn’t supposed to mature. Don’t get me wrong, I love matured content, but top gear was something else.
@@mariuscaminschi2742 James May's solo stuff was always like that too. The Cars of the People one comes to mind.
Affordable version
@@mariuscaminschi2742 Top Gear was mature. This is exactly what Top Gear was in it's original form, except this is more entertaining because it's James May. It was a car show that reviewed cars in detail. It was many years later that it evolved into the Top Gear most people know. :-)
James: "it has no smell"
Producer: *checks James' covid results"
LOl =))
😂😂🤣🤣Loss of smell lol
😮😷 Poor Lucy!
covid is a fraud
Very funny, but I remember hearing that the "new car smell" is actually carcinogenic chemicals (e.g, glue) and some manufacturers actually air out new cars to rid new cars of that smell.
"lovely indicator noise" is the most James May comment he could have made in that moment
I know😂. He’s right though.
I’m so glad I’m not the only person is obsessed with a car having a nice indicator noise 😂
Nice to see James is wearing his mother's curtains again.
Nothing against his mum though! ☝
Hahahaha
I spat my coffee reading this
You finished watching before the "be open minded and kind" bit.
You mean Richard Branston?
Clarkson: does a show on a farm.
Hammond: does a show on a desert island.
May: does car reviews!!!
Maybe you missed his cookery show.
James May: Our Man in Japan. Its pretty funny.
may, making ads
Is Hammond on Clarkson Island? Clarkson Island on youtube if you haven't seen it.
I wished the other two would appear in each other's shows. Not necessarily all together, but one episode with one of the trio
Anyone else watching this and noticing the tram lines in the fields during the aerial shots?!? Petrol heads now are experts at farming!
Hahah... exactly. First thing I thought was that these tram lines don't appear too far apart. Now everyone would laugh at the farmer.
haha, fk yes xD
Kaleb would be proud
@@ChickenLegs-fp9py lol yes
Kaleb must have done that part of the field, they didn't want to show Jeremy's tram lines, because there wouldn't be any.
What I really appreciate about James is he genuinely loves engineering. He doesn't attach weird personal views and insecurities to his analysis of just a very interesting machine.
I realize that car reviews are sort of James' bread & butter so no one should be surprised, but I thought this one was very well made, informative & enjoyable.
seriously I forgot I was watching a TH-cam video. for a second I was thinking it was TG/GT
Problem is, that hydrogen is a fool's errand. At least if you're arguing about shifting to hydrogen, instead of fossil fuels (currently hydrogen is nothing but a fossil fuel actually), and will be for a very long time. It doesn't make sense to create green energy, and then waste it by creating hydrogen from electrolysis, as that same energy could be much better spent on charging your car or powering everything else in your home, including heating.
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"we're gonna get another jogger in a minute" ... B-movie serial killers say the same
i'm just dying about the "b-" movie part, why b-?
@@ridgefrost because what top grade movie ever had a serial killer after joggers?!? Lol
“I got a women and a man, I think I will get a women next”
"Figurative joggers" only haha
That could be mistaken as a tally of all the pedestrians you've ran over.
Jeremy Clarkson : "Now lets see how it did , in the Eboladrome."
Yeah, what’s up with the Eboladrome did they sell it? They need to get back to doing the original format of the shows ASAP!
@@mikeheissler9824 I don't think the old grandma will like it
@@mikeheissler9824 Grand tour team has announced that there'll only be specials from now on, maybe forever.
They needs to change the name and call it CoronaDrome🤣🤣
I'd like James to drive his Mirai to Chaddlignton once and see the looks of Jeremy and Kaleb
What I love most of all of James May is that in TopGear he got the image of 'the old fashioned one', but by the looks of it he's actually the one from the trio who's the most knowledgeable and serious about the future and nowadays' technology.
I love getting a 2004 style Top Gear review, makes me feel young again.
As time goes by, I'm realising more and more how talented James is. His work is always of amazing quality. I genuinely think he's the best of Top Gear and GT.
Best yes, most entertaining? Probably no. I think it get's entertaining when they "get in each other's hair".
"Hold my beer"
..Jeremy Clarkson
What about a 'mashup' show with James May and Edd China?
i think he’s the perfect person to transition onto TH-cam. many don’t fare too well from TV to TH-cam.
They all have their appeal and compliment each other well
"Look at all the stuff"
One of the best motoring journalist we have ever seen
That was his OK BOOMER moment.
"Look at all the stuff" To go wrong!
James May is such a treasure. I aspire to be like him, moving on and embracing the future rather than holding on to the past. I would absolutely love to take part in this anti-pollution revolution once it becomes more affordable for me. Until then, I'll continue cutting down my usage of harmful energy sources.
Thank you guys at DriveTribe for documenting all this as well! Having such an experienced reviewer like May drive cars like this gives me confidence in the performance of these types of cars.
There are more affordable actions as well. Cycling for example is very cheap compared to cars.
Toyota now has the best promoter in the world for their Mirai .
...only.
Not that hard when pretty much everyone else has given up.
@@simonhenry7867 Hang on a minute! Only the stations are missing and you'd be surprised how many fans the Mirai has!
after Scotty Kilmer :-)
@@simonhenry7867 Should there be more? I'm sure if others jumped on the bandwagon they'd get ignored, because James.
"I have got one man and one woman so far, I reckon I will get another woman next...." - James May, 2021
He was going to get in an accident because he was anticipating the arrival of virtual woman.
Looking at some of those tramlines on the fields, Clarkson could have seeded them
So true
NO...No he couldn't. LOL he'll leave it to Kaleb and say he did it.
you can't unsee that now that you know
Was thinking the same thing LoL
now that sounds wrong on many level ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I work with patents and I keep seeing strong R&D in fuel cells, although in the media EVs are praised as the future of vehicles. My guess is that not only the OEMs bet in various tech, but fuel cell can diversify the vehicle's fleet in terms of energy source and materials. It might put less stress on the grid and require less lithium for example
Yea but if gas goes away i feel most people who enjoy driving will probably go ev as they are simply the fastest road cars
Is there any R&D in hydrocarbon fuel cells? Turning petrol into electricty? What about R&D into synthetic fuels or biofuels?
I've always thought hydrogen vehicles should be the future, even since I saw James review the Honda Clarity on Top Gear.#
They have all the convenience of petrol / diesel vehicles when it comes to refuelling, with all the environmental benefits of battery vehicles.
Plus, as you mentioned, they probably use less energy and fewer resources in the manufacturing process...and won't cause the national grid to go into meltdown.
@@phantomechelon3628 Nothing has the energy density of hydrocarbons. Especially when you consider if we were to develop synthetic fuels we could actually invent hydrocarbons with even more energy density than kerosene.
@@RoScFan You're missing the point. We don't want...or need hydrocarbon fuels. They're a major reason we're in this environmental mess.
Hydrogen on its own produces no harmful pollutants. Hence why fuel cell R&D needs to be pushed. At least until battery and charging technology has reached a point to make them more practical.
11 mins of James driving a HEPA filter whilst dressed in a curtain.
James May Prog-Rock shirt collection for the win, it slowly goes out of style over 30+ years.
More please
LOL
His shirt is environmental friendly just like the car
best comment. Up you go sir.
"and the price... goes... down."
What an incredible idea. Boardroom disapproves.
That's how you make money - make and sell a lot of a thing with a lower per unit profit margin.
@@tonyclewes8 ferrari disagrees
you can make money both ways.
or you can be apple and do both at the same time, sell loads at insanse margins
@@manaspradhan8041 Ferrari do both, they make about as much money from keyrings and caps as cars
My guess was they charged more for the first Mirai to pay for R and D costs, then they could charge less for the finished product once they knew it was more road worthy
@@manaspradhan8041 Well Ferrari might but Aston Martin have struggled over the past few years
As James strolls around in the countryside, I couldn't miss the "Tramlines" in the fields😀.
I thought the same!!!! And what about the tram lines in 8 shape!! James, Jeremy and Richard are the best! Looking forward to have much more content from them
@@alvarojdn Caleb would be disappointed with the 8 shaped ones.
i learnt what are tramlines by watching jeremy farm on amazon
@@harshithsadhana7475 It was a reference to Clarkson's Farm!!
Sometimes it’s unavoidable to get those sort of “gooseneck” tramlines. With odd shaped fields, often ones with a diagonal edge, your set GPS A B lines,which are parallel to your original A B line, just position themselves to where your specific implement (for example a sprayer) sections will first turn on to minimise Over application and the only way to achieve this is by u turning. Particularly in this country where we have mainly smaller fields compared to places like America or Australia, it is somewhat less common to have a perfectly square field that gives you ‘perfect’ tramlines without u turns. However, some of the fields in the video where root vegetables or tuners (probably potatoes, carrots or sugar beet) so they had straight tramlines without any visible turns as you don’t bother planting the headlands as it’s too awkward to access the rows without damaging them and therefore don’t get the gooseneck tramlines. Sorry for the long comment, I got a bit carried away!
The final minute and a half perfectly encapsulates the reason why I like James May way more than the other two.
I didn’t like the old mirai because of the Prius-like styling. But this new one, I like it a lot
It's more lexus than a toyota
@@nrusimhanseshadri9993 Lexus IS Toyota. It's only a more luxurious line of cars... so it's not more a Lexus than Toyota. Yet you are correct that it is more like a lexus as the interior and the basis are of the more luxurious line as used in lexus'
@@legarambor I think he knows that
Yeah, I think they shot themselves in the foot with the styling of each generation Prius and the previous Mirai. I think most people wouldn't be seen dead in one and it has really harmed the uptake of EVs.
And gladly it's rear wheel drive since it shares it's platform with the Toyota Crown
James makes a great point regarding pricing.
The production costs have reduced so much that Toyota have passed a saving on to potential customers.
Don't think they are making much on each but they are getting cheaper.
Sandy monroe was talking about a cool new tech the other day where they have these discs that look like a purple CD and they hit it with a lazer and hydrogen comes off them and can be used as a fuel source. The discs are totally inert without the lazer and are produces through like recycled sewer gasses or something. It was frickin unreal if that could be scaled
@@themeach011 some of the hydrogen stations produce a small amount of hydrogen themselves, passively, from the atmosphere around it.....
@@iainansell5930 I love the idea of those stations that produce right on site. It's just very either electricity hungry to produce or using natural gas to produce. Just like EV charging it really depends where the electricity is coming from if it's environmentally friendly or not. Every time you convert an energy source there are efficiency losses. So right now in ev will go farther on the electricity used to convert the hydrogen than a fuel cell vehicle can go using that hydrogen that is produced. In some ways it's similar to gas in that an ev can drive about 30 Miles just on the electricity that is needed to refine one gallon of gas. All the refining and processing requires large amounts of electricity so in some ways it makes more sense to just put that electricity straight into an ev rather than losing energy along the processing process. But Evs don't work for all applications so we need other technologies as well to cover all use cases.
@@iainansell5930 I did some calculations the other day. I can drive my EV about 500kms on 80kwh of power. It takes about 80kwh of power to make 2kgs of hydrogen. 2 kgs of hydrogen can drive you about 200kms in a fuel cell car.
If you want to meet May in Person just go to one of those three stations and stay there all day
“It has no smell” - no James you just have covid
looooooooool such post 2020 joke
@@DobbieZ 2021
@@louisbeerreviews8964 2022 ^-^
@@azuresflames2473 20220
Does that mean he's not going to make another video, then?
FOR the FIRST TIME, DRIVETRIVE has finally brought in the Actual Top Gear, Grand Tour Production feel. The script is there at par with Cars of the People Show. No wonder, these three are called the "HOLY TRINITY" of the Automotive World.
For a second there i thought 'brought' was 'bought'
More like the three stooges 😂
"The car improved in every way possible, and the price comes down"
@John James no, the thing is growing on service
@John James This one wont fall that far down
I would watch a full-length film of James May just driving about.
All the stuff they’d cut out or make a montage of in top gear basically
I would watch one of him just talking in fields flowers.
1:33 lots of physical controls, knobs and levers. Love it. Quite sure I could press those blind without worrying of pressing something wrong compared to touchscreens.
Wish EV manufacturers like Ford and Tesla didn't move too many functions to the touchscreen...
I agree. To operate touchscreens and touch buttons successfully requires precise finger coordination and taking your eyes off the road for way too long. It'll get worse because I heard there's cars with touch buttons on the steering wheel. There's going to be lots of accidental touches and then more time with eyes off the road to undo what you've just accidentally touched.
Therapist: Deep fried James May isn’t real he can’t hurt you
Deep fried James May: 7:40
Is that what that meme is called
@@shifugurugaming deep fried memes
this comment is uNNeCeSSaRY
bruh i was falling asleep and been woken up bc of this whyyyyyyyyyy
“This car has no smell”
James has just revealed he has COVID
😂😂
Maybe the car just smells like him so he doesn't notice the smell
@@tobiasdierks bruh
Took the words right of my mouth 👃😂
Can’t be,his not Hysterical 😂
the new mirai evolved quite nicely imo. it used to look like a compressed block of depression, now it looks like a car batman would drive if he was an environmentalist businessman.
After being fed on a diet on TH-camrs, it's refreshing to watch a review by an actual TV presenter. And honestly, James, Richard and Jeremy are the best presenters I have ever seen - fabulous individually and fantastic as a trio!
That jogger thing is the kind of quirk Doug Demuro would die for
Doug already reviewed it quite some time ago
I love James May. Best car journalist in the world, ever
also, the slowest. ;P
You've never read anything by Russell Bulgin, or LJK Setright then.
There is always someone who needs to comment on someone elses opinion with their own belief...
"So if you're watching this and you're from the government... GET ON WITH IT!"
10/10
What would you like them to 'get on with'?
@@FFVoyager the infrastructure. Building more hydrogen filling stations. Hes quoting James May. Did you even watch the video.
@@MrJ-ro1yr not gonna happen, its the most terrible way to move a car.
In fairness, you can't say that Hydrogen is a viable option in Germany, at best it's a viable option for _some_ , those that live close to certain bigger cities. But if you don't there are unreasonable gaps. The closest Hydrogen station to me is about 60-70 kilometres away
@@arrowmouse and nothing ever changes or changes faar too slowly because not enough people care, to say, drive 60km just to get a full tank, as it's really inconvenient, so the demand stays the same, and no new stations are built.
I’ve always been a fan of hydrogen and is the better alternative. Lord I miss watching you and others together on tv!
The fact that the price decreased with such a spike in quality of both materials and of the car, as well as capabilities improved all around… it blew my mind
That's what happens when you aren't at the endpoint of developing a technology. Internal combustion engines have very little room left for improvement whereas electric and hydrogen powertrains do.
James May is the man. You can tell 'cos I caught this clip an hour after it was posted, already up to 5k likes. So glad he keeps in touch. Keep moving forward, brov. We're right behind you.
This bought me back to the Top Gear days…a calm gentle on road experience about a new car from James May himself. Miss those Top Gear ⚙️ dayys 🥲
Check out the behind the scenes here: th-cam.com/video/q-dfGHAaLI4/w-d-xo.html
Insisting on having analogue dials is beyond you, James? Well, let me tell you something - not everyone can read digital speedometers properly! Like, those of us afflicted with dyscalculia for example. If it's an LCD display it can display literally anything, so why can't carmakers let us have the freedom of choice of whether to have a digital speedo or an analogue one?
@@martinevans7090 Choice costs money to design, manufacture and logistics. Analogue dials can stay in the past on old cars,
@@TheBroz Why? Just so they can appear to be all futuristic? Like Knight Rider?
Liked and subscribed. And I realized why Clarkson hate you.
How pure does the Hydrogen have to be for this process to work?
This TH-cam video seemed to have the production levels of a multi-million pound TV show behind it. A genuine well-done to you guys for upping the stakes and producing such a high-quality film! Loved it and can’t wait to see more!
Why doesn’t Toyota put a hydrogen fuel station in all its dealerships. Tesla built charging stations throughout California and now Tesla’s are everywhere here.
Electricity cable is much easier to be hooked to the existing grid than establishing a completely new hydrogen supply network
This is ofcourse way to expensive to do. For a garage/dealership owning a normal petrol pump is already not viable unless u exploid it big time. An ultra simpel fuell cell pump will set you back 1,6 miljoen euro's to start with. That is more then the building and tools cost on a typical garage
I shouldn't have said 99%. The worst EVs are ~75% efficient. Some Teslas are 90-94% efficient.
Toyota has not yet even placed Mirai's in all it's dealerships....
@@EUC-lid a Petrol car is less then 30% efficient...
I like seeing how May is still doing proper car content here on Drive Tribe. It's what I've been missing most from Britain's most infamous trio
It has no smell... Or James has just revealed he has covid... :/
Definitely
nice deduction
I was reasonably impressed, so looked up the availability of filling stations... it may as well run on unicorn tears.
You can run it on the _get you home_ gas from pouring iron filings into concentrated sulphuric acid, a wee job for the kids.
That is indeed a problem. James said seven out of ten hydrogen stations are currently closed; if the one in Cobham closes as well he'll be stuck with a £65,000 garden ornament.
@@ChrisBLong he will set up a hydrogen filling station in front of his pub before that happens 😅
After reading your comment I tried to look online for stations in my part of Canada and all I could find were three locations, and none of them are within an hour’s drive from where I live 😢
That's becuase you need 1 million+ to build a station.
And you can service 10 car total a day.
Now remember fuel stations live off snack and coffee,
Would you offer to take on the station and pay back the 1million in usual 8 year plus interest by selling 10 packets off overpriced crops a day...
Or 100k rapid charger selling 25 full families with enough time to buy a 3 course meals.
James is beginning to look a bit like Robert Plant.
Yes, I thought that too.
I thought Billy Connolly.
Have you ever seen them together? Maybe they're the same person
I expect he shares the same dislike for Robbie Williams as well..
James May has been looking like various types of aging rock stars for 15 years.
I was wondering why the air I inhaled today was so pure. Thank you James. You are a true hero!
James: I'm getting rid of my Mirai because I'm fed up with the lack of Hydrogen stations in the UK.
Also James: I got a new Mirai!
Makes perfect sense...
You didn’t seriously think James gives up on hydrogen fuel cell cars that easily, did you? He even made a segment on Top Gear in 2009 on the Honda Clarity, where he said that only hydrogen fuel cells allow us to use cars like we use petrol cars today, unlike battery electric vehicles. James has always been fascinated by the idea that you can just fill your car up in 3 minutes, drive 600+ miles, and all you leave behind is a trail of water drops.
@@KevinKickChannel Where do you get 600+ miles
Toyota Mirai 2021 only has 400 miles and that's because they made it more aerodynamic but reduced the space in the rear passenger seat
@@lillypichu4566 it's conceptual. If H2 had 10% of the R&D money EVs have it would rapidly crush those numbers. So it's a matter of when, not if.
@@cd.knuckles so is not real
@@lillypichu4566 as the original commenter said, it's an idea. It's what H2 will be capable of in the future
My mother would also say "it's unnecessary" all the time.
After seeing clarkson's farm every time they show a field I'm like "ooooh tram lines"
Haha same here
lambo tractor skids
Yes😂
James May could literally make anything interesting. It's great to see Captain Slow doing some proper car reviews!
Can we just appreciate how nice a video this is? It would have worked perfectly as a review for top gear/the grand tour, and although he talks about moving forward, this video takes me back to the nice times I had watching those in the past
I thought that too. The whole video works together so well and culminates in a beautiful message.
It had me expecting the cut away to the audience at the end
"Mirai" means "future".
Maybe that's why we don't have hydrogen filling stations yet.
Civilized car, indeed.
I'm so bummed out, i want this car here in Germany, but nobody cares about H2 here and therefore no infrastructure gets built. Sad.
A few years ago we have, on average, about 10 working hydrogen stations in the UK. Now we have, er, 8. Yep it's going down.
@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Germany has the second biggest H2 network outside of Japan- or third, if you consider Califonia a country, so it's a surprise.
Why don't Toyota setup hydrogen pumps at dealership for public use? Would be a positive start.
@@stewdean Yeah and a detriment to the state of H2 infrastructure worldwide. The only H2 sources for customers are probably in the big population centres like Munich, Berlin or NRW.
Tonight!!!
James loses his sense of smell,
I start my own farm,
And Hammond is stranded on a desert island
We now have Hydrogen powered busses at my work, (yes i'm a busdriver) next to the electric and diesel ones. And I can only say it brings the best of both worlds, the quiet and environmental friendliness of the EV and going towards the range and driving properties of the diesels. Let's hope they do get on with it and that Hydrogen powered cars will be just as accessible to the public in the near future as fossil fueled ones are.
The word 'mirai' (未来) in Japanese does actually mean 'future', therefore effectively implying that electric cars (whether fuel cell or battery powered) is the future of cars. Hopefully there will be more of these cars as well as infrastructure that support this in the future. Also battery and fuel cell shall be complementary to each other and not a competitor since the bottomline is that these technologies can help reduce people's reliance on fuel, at least at an automotive level.
Japan is actually quite far ahead in hydrogen electric cars, they have recognized they cant meet the needs on charging if all of them would go battery electric + battery electric is wasteful.
Both of these facts are obvious and should lead to an end of "race of technology to make a better future", because this race is just money making, otherwise we would have gone this was long ago.
James may : saving the world 1 jogger at a time
Guess we have to buy James a new car everytime we want a car review.
I've got a buck, what can we get May to review with that?
Polestar? Or electric motorcycle
James May: this car has no smell at all...
Covid19 virus: yeeess...
my buddy James here may have covid.......sheeeeet!!
@@ettorenamias Oh no! A 0.003% chance of death!
@@freddieparrydrums Sorry to ruin your fun mate, but percentage talk is always down playing it. Out of a million people, which there are quite a few in London, that 0.003% is 30 people. Now for me even one person dying would be objectively shocking and/or saddening. So i hope you understand that 30 people dying would be quite disastrous. Not trying to be annoying, but statistics are often tricky in the way they let us go over things so easily.
@@VNitrofrey "for me even one person dying would be objectively shocking"
Utterly insane.
What about the hundreds of millions who will die due to the economic crisis *caused by lockdowns that DON'T WORK?* The UN (who's incentive is to lowball it) says 300m people will starve in Africa alone due to the economic collapse.
But you know, so long as one Londoner doesn't get a bad cold when they're already dying of cancer, that's all fine and dandy right?
80,000 excess cancer deaths due to the NHS closing doors and the insane backlog. Doesn't count right, because it's not the political virus. One life. Just one.
Pathetic.
You've been brainwashed.
@「 Deadpoppin 」 Anyone who still thinks this is about a virus is willfully ignorant.
Anyone who doesn't know that this is about the economy, and covering for the insane ultra-Keynsian economic policies that have made complete collapse inevitable is just brainwashed.
Ask yourself this - why is basic economics, one of the most useful subjects known to humanity, not taught in schools?
Answer that and you'll discover the reason why lockdown brainwashing is happening.
I’d buy one in a heart beat if there was a station near me.
Myself as well. But being very rural, that wont happen for a long, long, long time.
@@bygodfreeman yea I’ve heard each station costs upwards of 2-3 million which is probably the biggest issue with hydrogen right now.
toyota, kia/hyundai and honda could put their money where their mouth is and install a hydrogen pump at their dealerships........ nissan did for ev stations... i know its more expensive... but if companie like esso and bp see a market for it, they'll start installing them... it didn't take long for LPG infrastructure to take off did it?
There is one near me but it's kind of private, it's for city buses in my city. I'm not sure they'll let me buy some of their hydrogen.
Also, hydrogen production isn't really carbon friendly
Next video: James May builds a hydrogen plant to refuel his car
Hydrogen is a highly reactive unstable atom. There have been many plants that exploded. That is why Hydrogen isn't fully out yet. They couldn't store it properly.
@@makemap they can store it now without a hassle. It costs money and there is nobody lobbying it which is the problem
@@SzabeeHUN you mean nobody prepared to pay for it.
Government have gone cold now the EV industry is building its own infrastructure,, universities have done the maths and can't see viability,, companies can't see how they can make a profit.
@@makemap Lithium isn't really any better, and it's not one of the most plentiful elements in the universe.
@@n8pls543 Lithium is actually quite worse. You can actually create hydrogen from water by electrolysis so there's ample supply in the long run. Lithium cobalt etc are very limited.
James with a goatee is something I didn't realize we needed; he seems like an aged, wizened master now.
The government's push for electric cars is strangling innovation in this area. Hydrogen is undoubtable a better solution than BEV, but the government is blinkered.
Why is this better than Tesla? I can charge a Renault Zoe at home for free. I can't do that with this Toyota.
Hydrogen Cars are dead on arrival. It's far less efficient to fill up the hydrogen cells and then convert them into electricity than it is to just use electricity from the get go
Toyota, Hyundai, and Honda need to form a coalition and invest in Hydrogen infrastructure and generation the same way Tesla invested in the supercharger network.
Implementing a Hydrogen infrastructure is a bit more expensive than charging stations. If they start converting existing gas stations, which they'll need funding from the government, just like Tesla, it's possible.
This is what Germany and Japan have been doing.
In America, the courts forced VW (and bmw and Mercedes) to spend money on "Electrify America", which has turned out rather well for them, because it is becoming easier to do long trips in another EV other than a Tesla)
Now they are doing something similar with Ionity in Europe, and discovering that it is now possible to buy something other than a Tesla and it is possible to do longer trips in an EV in Europe now.
In the early days, it was a well known secret that £10,000 of the purchase price of a Tesla was going towards building the supercharger network.
(and another £10,000 towards building the factory that would be making the next generation car, the Model 3)
This new Mirai is already £65,000 but no one is going to buy it, because of the lack of infrastruture. (unless you live near Cobham and only want to go 100 miles away and still be able to get backp)
would people buy it f it was £75,000, and the infrasture would be expanding over the next year or two that it takes to build that many H2 filling stations?
China would never allow that...banned.video
How much has Tesla invested in generating the power, at metropolitan scales, that powers their Supercharger network?!? The energy distribution stations (be they electric or Hydrogen) are just a small--maybe the smallest--part of the total problem of getting energy into mobile vehicles. Tesla has started down the path of sourcing the power for their Supercharger network from their own battery backed solar panels; but who knows how far they have made this transition over the whole of their network. I can't find any current hard data--not rosy Elon assertions--as to how far they've really gotten with this.
It's too late. BEVs have already won this battle. VW, GM, Ford, etc, have already acknowledged this by the vehicles they have coming soon. Toyota dreamed of cornering the fuel market in Japan so they've refused to let this die. But it's a lost cause, even if one thinks it's better.
Daniel Craig wore this shirt in Madagascar; Casino Royale 2006. James is wearing bond style and no one notices. Fashion icon.
@@obscurazone Google fashion mag articles on the movie, or look at the movie credits to see who did the wardrobe and ask them, although 14 years is a long time. Contact May or someone in the DriveTribe team to ask if May can give you the brand.
If anything they copied him because May hasn’t changed his wardrobe in 40 years
@@TSL73 that’s a very valid point. James May; Bond style influencer
Now that you mention it, I also notice that it has an uneven bottom cut and he's not wearing it tucked in, which cancels out some of those fashion points, no?
when James May said "The quality improves in every way but the price comes down" I felt that
At 3:47 a praise of the digital display, and the watch on the wrist ...ehmmm..... analogue... Well, I don't blame You, Mr May - I like it.
"all of this grew because I drove past in my Mirai"
*Soft music*
I was fully expecting the studio audience to applaud and the camera to swoop back in from overhead
*Audience applauds as Jeremy or Richard hold their hands up whilst saying the obligatory line "hang on, hang on, so what you're saying is..."
@@c.d.c9425 Ahh those were the golden days. I might have to go and watch an old top gear episode.
May's little speech at the end is very fitting and powerful especially when you consider what the name of the car actually means.
They did a beautiful job on this vid. Especially the end
"Toyota is pioneering the Car industry."
James May, driving a -sunburst orange- brown BMW M8 (or is it)
Just a hint..
You can buy a Haltech digital display insert for any car.. has all the digital display options..
Plus a cheap gps head up display.. and a 12v dehumidifier.. that cleans the air..
So? My crapy old car does all that this car does..
So? What's new?
@@graemejohnson9025 maybe, but I think James May wouldn't do that
@@graemejohnson9025 xD this is fantastic "a 12v humidifier" xD keep being you
@@manuelhnieves yep a 12v dehumidifier is available for campervans. Like a 12v air-conditioning..
The 12v dehumidifier stops mold in your campervans..
Watching these videos, I keep expecting Clarkson to pop up at the end and explain how everything James said is wrong
"Its also rwd"
me: happiness noise
This should default with EV drive trains. Costs nothing extra and makes cars more pleasurable to drive.
The id3 y clones all are.
@@simonhenry7867 it is default
@@HermanWillems my leaf and ioniq says otherwise.
Tonight
James buys a hydrogen car but he can‘t fill it up.
An even worse problem is that 3/4 of the energy is lost when using electric power to produce hydrogen. Hydrogen is a very nice power-source, but not viable unless there's s surplus of power ... which we're unlikely to have until someone manages to create fusion power-plants.
@@phel21 it is a trade off for the quick refuelling like regular gasoline car
@@phel21 Actually it is very easy to have surplus green power and it is already happening. If the wind is blowing or the sun is shining (or both) and there is low consumption, you get excess power. Energy companies around the world pay their customers to use electricity because there is surplus power. There is talk in Australia about using giant solar farms in the desert to make electricity for green hydrogen. There is plenty of space for it. No need for science fiction.
But if we have solar panels at home using excess energy can't we produce hydrogen through electrolysis? Another question would be, how to store and pump it?
@@surecom12 it will not be much costly but solar panels are costly and you will need lots of solar panels
Sooo fascinating! Hearing James May talk about literally ANYTHING makes my day.
I remember seeing a Toyota Mirai past my school as me and my friend was walking near. I remember going, Yo Sammy, THATS THE MIRAI I WAS TALKING ABOUT! We were both happy to see how beautiful modern and clean technology is. I couldn't stop smiling that day :D
it was kinda sad when he was walking in those flowers and said I'm getting older
He looks better, i.e. healthier now than he did 5 years ago though
@@nakoma5 it is because he hasn't seen Clarkson in a while, he is finally relaxing and recovering some years out of stress lol
When he said "collecting joggers" I assumed he meant like fighter pilots used to tally their total kills on the side of the plane.
GTA style, that would be hilarious, actually no.
I thought he was saying ‘doggers’!
@@johnparsons9930 Oh lordy! What would be the onscreen graphic for that?!
Now that you mentioned it. Given the fact that Captain Slow is a World War II veteran who has the highest number of Luftwaffe kills from Hammersmith. And he defeated Generalfeldmarschall von Clarkson during the North Africa Campaign. So yeah, a bit like that and James would love that.
When he said "collecting joggers" I said "bruh does he really need the hard R?"
Did I just miss it or has did James not mention this is built on the Lexus LS platform in either of the videos? Which is a large part of why it's so nice vs. the old one
Yep. It's a shame tmc has given up on it though for smaller sedans because they weren't able to keep the weight down apparently.
No wonder the rear portion looked familiar to the ls500!!
Professor May
please don't change your look, it's very cool and suits you. Drive on
The endpoint better be Jeremy’s farm
I wanted so badly for the video ending with James pulling up to the Diddly Squat Shop and Jeremy turning up in either that Lambo tractor or the Madagascar Bentley, before yelling at James about why he's got yet another electric car.
I actually would prefer most cars to be hydrogen or "clean electric" , but give sports car a bit more flexibility since they're not being daily driving and are the Minority
Sure, they can be sport electric - 1 cent more per mile.
The automobile turned the horse from a machine of labor into a leisure pastime. Electric will do the same thing to engines.
Engines are phenomenal pieces of engineering and it's idiotic to throw out 150 years of innovation and advancement to try and use brute force of electric, and fail to solve any of the pressing issues of the automotive world. Engines can only get better, especially with synthetic fuel. Electric is a trend of the present but will not last into the future.
@C J B You realise that the main beneficiary of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles is the oil industry, right? Where did you think that the hydrogen was coming from?
@@littlebluepanda394 Where is your source? I see tons of new green hydrogen plants being built. None of them are oil companies. Air Liquide, Air Products, Linde, Iwatani, True Zero... Are these owned by the oil industry?
‘No smell’
Get this man a PCR test...
Very apt really in today's world that we live in!!
be quiet you panikar
My thoughts as well. LOL
I know he might have that deadly virus you need a test to know you have
@@williammcphee8760 you mean the one can have and be asymptomatic thus spreading it unwittingly to others at much greasier risk?
Yes that one
James have a uniqueness in him that is marvelous, clear minded speaker, center and eloquent, and this is being said from someone
Who thinks 90% of the humanity is comprised of "idiots"... I simply enjoy every word his says because he chooses nicely what would come out from his mouth, now days that's "remarkable"
7:38 almost gave me a heart attack 😂
well this comment was 7:40
"Unnecessary editing".
@@GaffaTV it’s called the new era, as James said “GET ON WITH IT!”
In the UK theres 11 hydrogen refilling stations, with only 2 in Scotland. Compared to BEV theres over 35,000 public charge points with thousands more being built and not including everyone’s house/driveway either.
And you can bet the fuel companies will monopolise hydrogen refill stations just like they did with fossil fuels, and make it overly expensive in the future.
Pure electric freedom all the way.
Until you start getting hammered for the electricity used to charge the cars. Plus they will eventually pile on road tax to make up for the lost fuel duty. EVs were never about saving money and the government will make sure they aren't.
Meanwhile my classic gains about 2-3k in value every year. Beat that with an electric car :)
@@BlatentlyFakeName here in Victoria Australia they passed legislation to do just that and they have started collected ODO meter readings to tax for road use. Im just waiting for the next bit which is electricity companies mandating different tariffs for charging cars at home. Im not against EV's, i really want to try it but at the moment a) EVs are wildly expensive to buy b) running an EV is getting costlier day by day so really we will have to wait and see how expensive it gets. Everyone is ranting and raving about how its cheap and cheerful owning an EV is and how it's the future... im sure it is right now... but those oil companies, electricity providers etc wont just let it go and they will find a way to earn something off the electric car...
@@Martin-jc6nu LPG typically cleaner than other fossil fuels, helping to improve air quality and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. ... Additionally, LPG emits virtually no soot; it doesn't pose a risk to soil and groundwater and emits lower nitrogen and sulphur oxides (NOx and SOx) than most other fuels.
so if we get enough Toyota Mirai's we can drive around in 1 mpg Hummers
As long as we ignore the production of hydrogen, then yes, otherwise, no.
Well yes, but actually no
@@hockeymann88 the production of hydrogen is changing companies are moving away from the burning methane method and going into producing hydrogen by use of the sun and renewable methods.
@Jimmy Edward As of Now. Look at battery tech 20 years ago. Things will progress. And seeing as airplane manufacturers are thinking of using hydrogen instead of batteries, it will probably move forward. It will take time, but we will probably get there.
@Jimmy Edward thats true of every energy source. Petrol requires more energy to produce than it contains, why do we do it? To make it into a convenient form thats why. The same applies to hydrogen. A 100kwh car battery weighs over 500kg and contains 360Mj of energy. thats the same as 3kg of hydrogen. account for 50% efficiency of fuel cell and you then require 6kg of hydrogen. 500kg vs 6kg!. The electricity in a BEV's batteries come from 20% efficient solar panels and 40% wind efficient wind turbines.
James May is just at another level on youtube
Nice lovely words at the end he may be old but he's a legend
If we had the infrastructure, I would have one of these any day over a Tesla.
Everyone would but only because you don't have to wait 20-30 minutes to fill it up + the fact that it's a HEPA filter on wheels.
Yeah definitely
If they can make the price of hydrogen close to the price of electricity, maybe
@@lillypichu4566 They will make H2 cheap to make everyone buy fuel cell cars. Once everyone jumps in, price of H2 will increase because guess what? You can only get H2 from fuel stations. BEV's can charge at home for free with solar panels or other renewables. You are in control.
8:07 It's most definitely something Toyota, or Honda or Hyundai can control. Just look at Tesla - was there any infrastructure when they released the Model S? No. Did they wait for fairies to build it? No. Tesla built its infrastructure, and if hydrogen manufacturers want to succeed, they have to build theirs too.
Everyones grandparents had a clock that sounded like that james.
Captain Slow telling the government to hurry up says a lot about how leasurely the UK government does things
They're all too busy paying off their buddies and banging their mistresses to get any real work done.
They won’t do it, hydrogen is a dead dog for personal transport as it’s only 20% as efficient as a BEV when you take into account the energy needed to make green hydrogen, the transportation, storage / pressurisation of the hydrogen and the inefficiency of the fuel cell. It models far better for larger transport.
Eric Pisch And wisdom would put larger transportation back onto the railways where it once proliferated, especially as night cargo. But childishness in a fast pace egotism fuelled world means babies must have their consumer entitlement the next day. When did we go into reverse at such a fast pace?