HARLEY DAVIDSON 131 STAGE 4 SCREAMIN EAGLE COMPLETE BUILD & INSTALL ROAD GLIDE MILWAUKEE 8
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- IN THIS VIDEO WE DISASSEMBLE AND INSTALL A COMPLETE 131 STAGE 4 SCREAMING EAGLE KIT AND RUN IT ON THE DYNO.
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Dude, you're the type of guy that when a customer is lucky to have you work on their bike, they should never let anyone else touch it. Awesome job. Great attention to detail and a perfectionist mind. Love it. Keep'em coming!
Thanks for the compliment!
So what were the Dyno
numbers?
@@thomasmichel3838257tq 345hp
I've seen a couple 131 kit installs on TH-cam and you probably know who they are...You are very conscientious and thorough. The best I've seen yet.
You’re obviously a man who cares about his work. Anyone would be lucky to have you work on their bike. I don’t know if you do this when your cleaning parts, but you wouldn’t believe how much dirt I have removed from the center of the wrist pin. I push a brake clean soaked rag through the center and they always come out filthy. Keep up the great work!
Brad, just amazing to see how well you learn the process of putting all these parts together. It’s encouraging to see how easy you make it look.
Awesome video one tip that has saved me headaches is to cover under the piston with a towel before attempting to put the wrist pin circlip on. Sometimes they pop out trying to get them in and can easily fall in the crankcase.
I wanted that exact Harley . Looks amazing in person.
Also you are more than just professional in your job and thank you showing to us how to do it, you make us happy mechanicals.
I appreciate that!
i believe you should of installed temporary only for a few mins the backing plate for the air cleaner to only hold up straight the face of the intake manifold before tighten down the intake manifold so the intake manifold is correctly aligned to the heads for easy install of the 2 large bolts to the head going into the air cleaner backing plate. but everything you did that i saw was excellent...
A video from Brad, made my evening. Great to see you back and I sure hope you start getting your million subs you deserve as you put out the best most detailed videos.
Great job on the assembly! You would make a great instructor. Brilliant way to prove the install was done correctly, so that Harley would warranty the kit. I noticed that you also maintained the rpm below 2500 during the break in period to further guarantee your professionalism, and to prove your work. I’m a novice. Great video!
Curious what is the break in period I'm getting a 131 installed then going from MA to Kentucky. Do you think it will be ok? I should mention I am on a 2021 Low rider S.
Conventional theory says to use the brake in procedure in your owners manuals, like vary engine speeds and avoid prolonged constant speed, like express way riding. And that's probably the best thing to do. The shop may have a process of heat cycling the engine 3 times and loading it so the rings seat well. If so it be just fine le that also. At different shop that's how we did it for decades and never once did we have a problem.
Thanks brother. I enjoy your videos I just Bing watched a few. Keep posting very informative. Thank you for your quick response.
Thanks 👍
You are an undiscovered gem. Im getting a 128 installed on my Roadking. I hope my mechanic is as good as you.
Thanks. You'll love the 128 kit!!
Thanks for the great video . After watching the care to detail you take , I am nervous about letting a mechanic do one of these kits , not knowing if he would be as conscientious as you are . If I decide to do one , your the man . I live in Central Michigan . 👍
Right on. Ur probably not that far than. I'm in Farmington Hills MI at Motor City Harley Davidson.
Thank you for this explanation. You are as skilled as any professional with whom I have dealt.
This channel is brilliant! I love the commentary and learning a ton just by watching. I wish all mechanics did this while working on my bike so I can be there to watch.
Thanks for the compliment! 👍
Why didn’t you reveal the torque and horsepower numbers ? Otherwise was a great learning experience.
Great Job Brad. To bad there isn't more mechanics like you out there . Kudos to you. Hope your shop knows how lucky they are to have you
Man I wish I lived closer so you could work on my 2000 Roadking. If you were working on her, I would have no worries. Great job and great attention to detail. You have a gift and I enjoy watching you work. All the best brother!
Hats off to Brad for allowing me to speak a word of truth that we all know they are asleep at Harley design team is sleeping on the job. By the way Brad you should not shout in your intro with all those capital letters is not working for your work effort should be directed to re do on the video, i did not learn nothing about building a motor.
I can't believe you made a video on my bike build.
@@dietmdew845 around $5900.00
Good to see you doing a 131.
I love mine.
With the Harley parts and Tuner and a D&D 2-1 Billet Cat with the Big Bore Baffle I'm at 139 TQ 134 HP. Tuned by Mile High Harley of Parker, CO.
Would get it dyno tuned as soon as warranty is up, the Harley tunes are notorious for running lean and causing engine damage after extended use.
Awesome work and technique but one thing that I did not like is right before you lift the cylinders to far I would think it imperative to stuff rags in the upper crank case in case of loose debris or more importantly a broken ring fragment could have fallen in the crankcase unknowingly or even seen still could be a nightmare.
Love that build , a beautiful beast
Good afternoon Brad, just a small update , have my 2012 Electra glide out for a new paint job and in the meantime I just bought a 2020 Road GLIDE Special, will be making some changes on it and look forward for your input, stage 1 , shocks for a start, keep up the good work . enjoy your videos, Great info
You’re very thorough sir. Great work!
Excelente video, excelente trabajo 🎉
About to do the same on my RG ST… wish me luck doing it…. Great video, thank you!!
Enjoyed the video, you did an awesome job, great attention to detail. Your the guy to do my new 131 Road King. Install 16" apes, chrome forks, stage 1 & 4 headers pipes, and slip-on. 21" fat spokes front 18" rear, classic whitewall tires. Shit, let's make an appointment now, lol! As a customer, you are the tech everyone wants because we spend serious money on our bikes, I need it to run! I am retiring on June 30, I need a good touring bike. I guess I will have to meet the tech before I purchase I have 3 dealers to choose from and who would give the best deal. Take care
I’m getting 131 kit put into my bike this winter. I’m excited. I’ll make a TH-cam video of everything I’m getting done to my road glide limited.
My arse is getting too old for my rigid and I'm luvin this RK. Gr8 job!
Just wanted to add, that I hope the tech that installed my kit was as meticulous as you, in his installation, Well done sir!
Thanks for the complement
Put a set of tabs on that with zombie baffles it sounds like a sewing machine
Great video,I’m impressed with your assembling and detailed pre lubrication.I’m getting the same kit installed in my 2020 Cvo limited. To break it in I’m leaving the stock exhaust on along with the stock air filter,but using H-D auto tuner with wide range oxygen sensors. After break in, I’ll decide what mufflers to install.
@@dietmdew845 I had 131 with H-D auto tune it cost approx. $6k canadian with everything
Keep up the great work on these videos. Some of the best I've ever seen in training and instruction. Your will be recognized soon.
Thanks for the compliment👍
Brad you are a true professional and your videos are awesome. Thank you sir.
I appreciate that!
Excellent video thank you so very much for sharing your knowledge & concise explanation.
Glad it was helpful!
you did a great job on your 131 build 👏.
Thanks 👍
Thank you for this video. A true professional.
Thanks for the compliment.
The owner of this bike is a lucky man, you're the AMG of harley.
Thanks.
l like how managable that awesome power is... looks so smooth
how funny, I actually know someone who works at that same dealer! small world! Never been to that dealer, vehicle city up in flint is alot closer to me. you make the install look easy and make me want to do it on a softtail breakout.
Glad to see ya again ! I wanna do this to my Roadglide All I need is the cash 💵 lol 😂
Lol me to, my road king special needs a131 or a trask turbo
131 stage 4 , first of all I'm very sorry for your family loss (Palms 55:22) our God promised to help you carry this burden. That being said you will find much joy with that stage 4 Milwaukee eight. Be careful I have the stage 4 on my street glide it is big time aggressive and purrs like a kitten. Have fun!
Thank you for your video, but you never put rags/towels in the open spigots of the cases while working. Iam curious as your reason not too. Not trying to nitpick, as yours is the best video I've seen. You showing all your specialty tools is a bonus.
Again, THANK YOU for taking the time and effort to explain your steps. I've made a few videos for the forums and I know first hand, what a pain it is to stop and show steps your taking
Love the videos Brad. You make it look easy. Thanks and keep them coming please.
Always great videos Brad. Thank you for doing them.
Great job... just ordered some Torco for my TC rebuild was going to just use SE juice.... thank you 👍😎👍
Great day for a ride. Arsenal seems like a nice area!
Ya Waterford is nice with all the lakes ect.
Thanks to everyone for all the thumbs up and the support on my comments, but i am serious, i want the job as CEO of Harley, I want to build some f big a custom motorcycles.
Great work sir! I really dig your double, and tripple check on your stage of completion. Im exactly the same way. LOL
Thanks!
Makes me wonder why those plastic lifter cuffs weren't replaced and the cam plate and oil pump weren't up graded.
Ahhh.. I see its your first time doing this upgrade... haha.. Wow what an amazing TECH! honestly, as a tech(Generators) you can see how you understand the engine, the service repair manual, and how to adjust to the differences! I would trust you to repair any of my bikes! I wasnt even looking to do this upgrade but i was stuck watching how amazing you are at your job lol. Great work brother. Keep doing this! I hope you do well!
Thanks for the compliment! 👍
Great video and commentary. Thanks!
Great video. Thank you
Good video Brad I Measure install depth on all m8 cam bearings
These videos make my day. Question about building oil pressure & seeing it flow from the rockers. When I access the starter solenoid wire in order to roll it over, do I apply battery positive to that lead? Thanks, Bob
yes
3 years later are you still a thumbs up on the M8 stage 4 kit? Say, for a 2019 SGS w/ 40k miles on it?
Great video. Brad is super-meticulous! :)
my first job at harley is to make sure the round table meeting means at least 10 exectives are going to be needing a new job, no more pansy a employee's setting on the payrole doing nothing.
I wish I had someone around me that i can trust not to take short cuts. I'm going to look for a tech that makes youtube videos now so I can watch your skill.
Excellent video, thank you.
Way to treat the customers bike with respect also! Most ppl would b like F it and hammer it
Every time you goose it I giggle a little. Ps every monster of a motorcycle should have a cup holder.
I like having water after I stomp on other bikes...lol
@@jmdminiaturehorse63 haha.
@16.20 why not just put the cylinder you want to remove the rockers at top dead center? Seems like the same thing just easier to remember
yep. Its the same thing. Top dead center compression stroke.
Glad you're back my friend that Ring compression tool is wicked have to get me one for mine if available love good tools regards Alan from the UK.
Excellent video Brad really appreciate your attention to detail keep em coming!
I dont get why an individual would spend the money on a kit like that and not do the cam plate upgrade along with it.....strange. I love that color and decal on that bike....
He specifically gave the disclaimer, “This is how I do things. You may do it differently.”
Phenomenal Video! Thank you
I admire your work it is very clean & precise ! Question: I have a 2005 Ultra Classic with a stage IV Screaming Eagle & Heavy duty Stater & 45 amp Volt regulator----can I replace it with CREATE ENGINE 131 ?
The engine offered by harley davidson will not fit for vehicle. But Jim's offers a 131 create engine ant fits your bike and there very nice.
Thank you for your kind response----you Sir is a PROFESSIONAL ! Do you have any more Info. on Jim's 131 Crate engine for my 2005 Ultra Classic
great video!
Thanks
Big Engine, Powerfull with heavy Sound. Have the Bike any Heat problems or have it an Oil cooler and other Oil Pump from Screaming Eagle on it? Amazing Work, thank you for this Video. God Bless you!
This bike has a oil cooler. No problems so far.
Brad, thank you for the new video. I am always so impressed with the quality of your workmanship. The question is, I gather this kit can be installed without any upgrade to the crankshaft and pushrods of the stock motor - a 114 I suspect? Does a complete crate 131 motor also use the same "bottom end" of the 114?
Thanks
Yes. This 131 kit is installed on a stock 114 bottom end, flywheel, pushrods ect. And yes when you buy a 131 crate motor it comes with the exact " same as stock 114 " normal crank cases, flywheel, pushrod ect. Thanks for the complement!
Awesome videos, keep them coming. What type of break-in do you do before you hit the dyno? Is 3 or 4 heat cycles good enough? I'm going to do a 124" upgrade soon.
Thanks for all the great info!!
I'm used to doing 3 heat cycles and that's the way I've always done it with no problems. The new dealership I work at does 1000 miles just like the owners manual states. Either way is fine to me.
I think I would put the cup holder on ebay and put those funds toward a bigger cam - take the motor up to 150+ bhp and sod the warranty !
Yeah..🙌..thanks you Sir ❤👍
Don’t you just hate that we can’t leave anything alone? Can it be modified? Yes. Should it be modified? Not sure.
Leave nothing stock. I always say, best to leave it stock but I cant do it myself.
Hello, love the video, very meticulously details🙏🏼 I want to ask u if I want to upgrade my 2022 RKS 114 to stage 4. Do I need to upgrade my standard clutch into the high capacity clutch kit for M8? Also the oil into SC high volume oil pump & cam support plate kit? Much appreciated 🙏🏼
The screaming eagle kits use your stock clutch. Even with the 131 stage 4 kit your stick clutch will hold it. U can use the OEM cam support plate and oil pump that's in the bike now. We do alot of them that way and they work well. If you want higher end stuff, screaming eagle sells a higher end canplate and oil pump that would work well with it or a S&S or Fueling stuff are nice but not required.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard thank you!
Your welcome.
awsome!! thank you
Great video. I noticed you didn't torque down the cylinder bolts before putting on the cylinders. You don't get the proper torque on the head bolts if the cylinder bolts are loose.
damn, i want this too for my street bob
Impressive man
Thanks!
Great Job!!!
Thanks 👍
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard
Thanks to you. I like to get my bike in order, it is a Road King 96” 2007 model and I got tools as necessary, I enjoy disassemble and fix mechanic problems.
Upgrade to 131” is wonderful, what a solid sound.
Best regards from Spain
Brad you’re on point!
How long does it take to install one of these kits? - how long should it take a Harley Technician v how long should it take an average home mechanic?
Harley Technician 1 full work day. Average home mechanic a full 3 day week end with no drinking.
Hello Brad my friend we miss your videos I have just bought a shovelhead I love harleys I have three now but you can't have enough harleys it's on my TH-cam channel be pleased if you had a look take care you gotta love harleys regards Alan.
Great video my question is why not go with the wideband O2 sensors
It's the way the customer wanted to do it.
Do you leave the stock "plastic" lifter cuffs in when doing this? What is your opinion of Screaming Eagle parts and the expected longevity of the motor when using these parts as opposed to something like S&S parts that are often manufactured under different manufacturing standards? Also do you ever run into problems with the stock transmission assy when increasing the torque with these stage IV kits? The reason I ask is I have seen a couple of videos where the customer with a big smile on his face starts slamming thru the gears with the new build and blows up the transmission or snapping the rear drive belt while pulling the front wheel up off the ground.
Alot of times I reuse the plastic lifter cuffs, its really only if the s&s metal cuffs were up sold at the time of purchase or if the customer specifically asks for them. I haven't seen 1 problem with the plastic lifter cuffs so reusing them isn't a problem for me. Sportsters have had a plastic lifter cuff since 04 and LS chevy engines have plastic lifter cuffs so that's how I think about them. But with either option, metal or plastic I havent seen A single cuff related problem come across my bench. As for how I feel about s&s engine kits vs screaming eagle engine kits is a tough question because 95% of engine kits we install / work on are screaming eagle and so percentage wise I see many less s&s equipped bikes and also less s&s failures. I'm not super fond of screaming eagle "bigger bore" cylinders that's 117 twin cam engines I'd stay away from. And the same cylinder technology is used in the M8 screaming eagle 128/131 kit. But they seem to do much better. If it were me spending the cash I'd use s&s thicker wall cylinders + pistons and I like how s&s makes there cams and cams plates and oil pumps better so I'd buy the s&s stuff. But I see the other side of the coin too. Where a customer wants to keep warranty and possability buy extended service protection and that bacically means screaming eagle stuff for them. And the screaming eagle stuff is cheaper upfront so people like that. Situation dependent. I used to see a lot more trans problems and I don't know if m8 transmissions have gotten better but I rarely see a messed up 3rd gear like we used to. If a belt is tensioned right or tighter for a higher performance engine they can be super reliable and problem free so it all depends on how you use it. I've seen more broken belts on trikes from people admitting to popping/riding wheelies vs broken belts from power.
Will doing a big bore kit cause crank runout to worsen faster than a stock motor? Are there any specific actions that cause crank runout to get worse quicker? Everyone I see doing a big inch build has recommended balancing, truing, pinning, and welding the flywheel.
Balancing, truing, pinning, and welding the flywheel is mostly for peace of mind. If you want the best of the best, highest quality stuff and cost is not a problem it's available. Shock loading is the main reason flywheels shift and have runout out problems. The only times i've seen flywheels shift is when something in the transmission or primary breaks and the engine stops rotating instantly form a mid or high rpm. I like the highest quality stuff so I like using balanced and trued flywheels but in a dealership environment we normally don't do full out, no expense spared builds. But if the engine cases are split, you might as well send the flywheel out and have it worked, you'll be happy you did later. Even if its just for peace of mind.
What Tapered Ring Compressor would I need if I’m putting a 110 kit in my twin cam and what one if I’m just putting my twin cam back with stock rings? Thank.
I'm not sure of the stock 110 bore size off hand. But i normally do 110 piston rings with my thumb nail.
Back in the day we used to take them up on the thruway so we can tell the customer how well it pulls in high gear .. You can't tell them anything limp dicking around town
Have you ever done a big bore on a Slim w/ laced wheels? I'm thinking of going w/ a 124" or 128" kit this winter on my 2018 Slim. I'd like to know if the laced wheels will hold up though. Or should I go to cast wheels? I don't do wheelies or burnouts. Thanks
Laced wheels will hold up to alot of power. U just have to keep the spokes tight and u won't have any problems. I haven't done a big kit on a slim but I've done huge kit on older touring bikes when they came with laced wheels and have had no problems. Do the 128 kit tho.
i got a jims 131 motor dropped into a 2000 road king, god dam beast motor
Ya. I've done a couple of the Jim's engines. Deffentally a nice product.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard I go sign paperwork tuesday. Super excited. Bike had 26k worth work. Looks like it came straight out of an episode of pimp my ride. Lol
100% Brad!
Wizard I want to do this kit on a 2021 M8 114. Do you suggest a significant benefit from the aftermarket cam plate and pumps ? I have read they claim significant cooler oil temps. You are an excellent tech.
yes the S&S cam plate and oil pump is a nice part, I would definitely use it on my own bike.
I'm surprised you did not put a rag/towel under the piston when you installed the piston pin retaining clip incase you dropped it into the crank case .
I have one question....typically does oil flow to the oil filter from the oil pump to the inside of the filter outwards?...or from the pump to the outside of the filter returning from the inside?
Ya. Oil flows from the pump, past the oil pressure switch into the oil filter. It enters the outside of the filter, flows through the filter media and exits the filter through the center of the filter and flows through the cam plate and rest of the engine.
I noticed that the axles of rockers are screwed in head base, thats mean not noise as we have to use lockers rockers in oldest model, what is your opinion?
I think rocker lockers are not necessary but also dont hurt. I feel like from a visual standpoint the twin cam had a more robust and solid rocker arm mount situation but with that being said I also haven't seen or broken any milwaukee 8 rocker arm mounts so it must be engineered well.
Nice content again !
One question though :
Do you have to remove everything to swap lower rocker box covers ?
Or can you slide them out ?
(I'm taliking about a Softail 114 bur I assume it is pretty much the same as a Touring)
Thank you Sir !
U have to remove the rocker arms. So its a bit of a job.
Yay for a new video!!!
Thanks for sharing. Do the piston rings come already filed or they have to be filed?
I double check every kit but i haven't ever needed to file any of the screaming eagle kit piston rings.
Great videos Brad!
Amazing video Brad! What a cool video. Did that take you only one day? I have a 2015 Ultra Limited with the S.E. 110. Going to keep it and get a 2023 Street Glide ST and bump up to 131. Wonder if I'll feel the power difference? :). I hope all HD mechanics have the same skill sets and attn to detail
I think this video took me 2 days to record. You'll notice a difference in power going from your twin cam yo a milwaukee a for sure. And it's another noticeable bump in power when you do the 131.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Hey Brad, I have another question for you. Wondering what would you do? If you bought a new Street Glide, would you do the 131 stage 4 or consider the all new 135 replacement? I really wish you were in the Milwaukee area. Will you be coming by for the 120th? Lots to do here in Milwaukee this July