TL111 is the NCAGE code for Alpharms. These import serial numbers begin with their NCAGE codes. Safe to say that all pistols with code TL111 are made by Alpharms.
I can see the rage coming that this manufacturer retained the same features that the Tier 1 operators from the British, Australian, New Zealand, etc SAS, the Rhodesians and South Africans, etc chose to leave in place through 80 years of wars and anti-terrorist operations: The Dreaded Magazine Disconnect, The Dreaded Magazine That Doesn't Drop Free, etc. Our resident Kitchen Table Gunfighting Experts know better than they do! That said, in the civilian world, not the world of warriors carrying them with an expectation they might likely be soon using them in a TIC, we get to not only choose whatever sword we want to have in our hands, but do whatever we want to modify it to suit our beliefs, there's lots of things we can do. That's what freedom and the Second Amendment is about.
On the surface, looks like a nice and faithful copy of the FN GP35 MkIII. While I'm equipped for the remainder of my life with the 69C series High Power I purchased sometime around 1974, I do wish somebody deciding to make clones would do a copy of the T and C series pistols prior to the slightly chubbier MkII and MkIII pistols that replaced them. I'm not a marketing guy, but advertising them as a copy of the original T series HPs preferred by most collectors and knowledgeable users would help sell them versus the MkIII copies of competitors. With so many clone manufacturers popping up, the market for people wanting a High Power replica is eventually going to dry up... there's only so many potential buyers.
@AndrewRice-b4e Don't understand the comment about the black line on the barrel. If your pistol was new stock in 1974, then the serial number probably starts with the year of manufacture, followed by the letter 'C', then the rest of the serial number: 73C123456. These aren't really a series and FN was pretty casual about models and serial numbers. The original hi Powers had the internal extractor. When they modified the extractor to the external extractor, that was the beginning of the "T" series serial numbers. That morphed into the "C" series. With the introduction of the 40 S&W, that was the beginning of the Mk2 ans subsequent Mk3 series. Those pistols had slightly larger frames
@AirborneMOC031 I bought the gun from a collector and on the barrel by the ejection port is a thin black line. He told me they came from the factory with that line and when you fired the gun it would wear off. He told me that is the proof the gun has never been fired. I did check the serial number and it is a 74 C serious. I am by far no expert on the Hi Power. I bought the gun hoping one day it would be worth something plus I love the Hi power. I also have a like new 09 model. Thanks for your info.
I don't know and I've wondered myself. I guess Centurion 14 takes the 14 from Alpha 14 and the Centurion from Century (Arms). Where Alpha got the 14 from, I don't know. Maybe 13+1 or maybe they started production in 2014.
I believe it’s because the first design for the P-35 was actually devised in 1914 as a striker fired pistol but eventually that design evolved into the Grand Pistole
Hello, I recently bought a Centurion 14, its a nicely fit and finished gun but i've been having problems with ejection and ftf. The gun tends to jam with a spent casing and a live round jammed into each other and also the last round in the gun fails to eject and it just sits loosely on the mag follower, I can rotate the gun and it will fall out freely. I believe it is an extractor issue, my question is, is this 100% browning parts compatible? I know C&S makes an extractor for the tisas BR-9, i've heard turkish clones have narrower extractor channels, just wanted to be sure i bought the correct part, thanks.
That does sound like an extractor issue. I really do not know how interchangeable the parts are. C&S or BH Spring Solutions might have a write up somewhere about interchangeability. The Tisas extractor will probably fit. I have a strong suspension they are closely related. I could also be a weak extractor spring. Good luck.
It's not my pistol, so I did not fire it. The trigger was OK but the owner asked me to remove the magazine disconnect and that improved the trigger to about 3 or 3 1/2 pounds. Did not measure it though.
Good looking clone, I'm glad companies are making clones of classic metal pistols and not just glock clones
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I polished the sear and hammer teeth due to the atrocious trigger pull. about an hour of work but a significant improvement
Hardest to cock pistol I ever owned. Crazy!
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TL111 is the NCAGE code for Alpharms. These import serial numbers begin with their NCAGE codes. Safe to say that all pistols with code TL111 are made by Alpharms.
This is good info. Thank you.
I can see the rage coming that this manufacturer retained the same features that the Tier 1 operators from the British, Australian, New Zealand, etc SAS, the Rhodesians and South Africans, etc chose to leave in place through 80 years of wars and anti-terrorist operations: The Dreaded Magazine Disconnect, The Dreaded Magazine That Doesn't Drop Free, etc. Our resident Kitchen Table Gunfighting Experts know better than they do!
That said, in the civilian world, not the world of warriors carrying them with an expectation they might likely be soon using them in a TIC, we get to not only choose whatever sword we want to have in our hands, but do whatever we want to modify it to suit our beliefs, there's lots of things we can do. That's what freedom and the Second Amendment is about.
Second world operators need all the safeties.
See this finger? That's my safety....immediately picks his nose with it.....😅
On the surface, looks like a nice and faithful copy of the FN GP35 MkIII.
While I'm equipped for the remainder of my life with the 69C series High Power I purchased sometime around 1974, I do wish somebody deciding to make clones would do a copy of the T and C series pistols prior to the slightly chubbier MkII and MkIII pistols that replaced them.
I'm not a marketing guy, but advertising them as a copy of the original T series HPs preferred by most collectors and knowledgeable users would help sell them versus the MkIII copies of competitors.
With so many clone manufacturers popping up, the market for people wanting a High Power replica is eventually going to dry up... there's only so many potential buyers.
I picked a unfired 1974 Hi Power still has the black line on the barrel. How do I tell what series it is?
@AndrewRice-b4e Don't understand the comment about the black line on the barrel.
If your pistol was new stock in 1974, then the serial number probably starts with the year of manufacture, followed by the letter 'C', then the rest of the serial number: 73C123456.
These aren't really a series and FN was pretty casual about models and serial numbers.
The original hi Powers had the internal extractor.
When they modified the extractor to the external extractor, that was the beginning of the "T" series serial numbers. That morphed into the "C" series.
With the introduction of the 40 S&W, that was the beginning of the Mk2 ans subsequent Mk3 series. Those pistols had slightly larger frames
@AirborneMOC031 I bought the gun from a collector and on the barrel by the ejection port is a thin black line. He told me they came from the factory with that line and when you fired the gun it would wear off. He told me that is the proof the gun has never been fired. I did check the serial number and it is a 74 C serious. I am by far no expert on the Hi Power. I bought the gun hoping one day it would be worth something plus I love the Hi power. I also have a like new 09 model. Thanks for your info.
$389 at my local outdoors world ( cabelas )
I am sure someone will like it
I wonder why they named it Centurion 14 or Alpha 14? Do you think maybe because the original Hi Power was a 13 + 1 capacity ?
I don't know and I've wondered myself. I guess Centurion 14 takes the 14 from Alpha 14 and the Centurion from Century (Arms). Where Alpha got the 14 from, I don't know. Maybe 13+1 or maybe they started production in 2014.
I believe it’s because the first design for the P-35 was actually devised in 1914 as a striker fired pistol but eventually that design evolved into the Grand Pistole
@@calebjamessmith5605 Definitely plausible.
The barrel feed ramp appears to be a bit wider on the FN, and the ramp angle isn't as steep as the CAI?
Hello, I recently bought a Centurion 14, its a nicely fit and finished gun but i've been having problems with ejection and ftf. The gun tends to jam with a spent casing and a live round jammed into each other and also the last round in the gun fails to eject and it just sits loosely on the mag follower, I can rotate the gun and it will fall out freely. I believe it is an extractor issue, my question is, is this 100% browning parts compatible? I know C&S makes an extractor for the tisas BR-9, i've heard turkish clones have narrower extractor channels, just wanted to be sure i bought the correct part, thanks.
That does sound like an extractor issue. I really do not know how interchangeable the parts are. C&S or BH Spring Solutions might have a write up somewhere about interchangeability. The Tisas extractor will probably fit. I have a strong suspension they are closely related. I could also be a weak extractor spring. Good luck.
Thank you, appreciate your help👍
Looks like it may have hammer bite issues? How's the trigger? Any idea on the break weight?
It's not my pistol, so I did not fire it. The trigger was OK but the owner asked me to remove the magazine disconnect and that improved the trigger to about 3 or 3 1/2 pounds. Did not measure it though.
@@ThrowingCopperCRA-2022 Thank you. I removed the mag disconnect from my Girsan and the effect is negligible.
@@plantguy100 On some it makes a big difference.
Is the EAA Girsan MCP 35 a Browning clone?
Yes it is. However, not all parts will interchange. So maybe "copy" is a better term.