You've obviously not watched the Peter Faulding interview where he said there was a man in black, as mentioned during the coroner's report, hanging around asking questions and mingling with crowd even though he was not known to locals. Needs re investigating 🤔☹️ No we don't know what happened to her, only what people think happened to her. This was not an accident.
Lancashire police from the start gave a great impression that Nicola committed suicide... no area roped off from the public. It is obvious they knew of Nicola's personal problems from the start and went with it!
@@fordcapri6288 actually he was the only one that knew what he was doing...go find his interview and listen to what he has to say...he was made a scapegoat
I'd like to see another force come in and carry out a whole new investigation into Nicola's death. Something doesn't add up. Lancashire police were convinced she'd drowned in the river from minute one.
There's been info out that they actually did find her stuck at the bottom near where she dissapeared 6 minutes in to the search, but for some reason she was left there. Another channel had some info out from Peter Faulding where he had turned in the info to the police but they dismissed the findings, so he kept looking.
The LP had their own narrative and made huge mistakes from the off set, they didn’t like the fact that SGI were called in as it left them open to further scrutiny. They didn’t allow PF to dive to retrieve/ recover Nicolas body when he originally reported his finding on his 2nd day searching as they knew it possibly might reflect badly on them and their own search efforts. Also by Nicolas body being found earlier possibly there would have been more evidence and have turned their whole narrative upside down into a murder enquiry which LP clearly were trying to steer clear from. The question is WHY ? So glad PF didn’t sign a NDA he was the one from the beginning who was professional and acting in the best interest of Nicola and her family. The police have a huge amount of explaining to do with regards to this case disgraceful
I don't think the public's reaction was "totally bizarre" at all. It was fairly obvious from the beginning that there was more to this, and that the police were mismanaging the investigation. It's perfectly normal to speculate, and if you read the inquiry about her death, it pure speculation. "She could have, she may have" etc. Such hypocrisy.
Paul's "wild speculation" at the Inquest was "totally bizarre", (Nicola was used to juggle between many jobs, and maybe she put her phone down, while still listening to the meeting, and tried to put the harness on Willow, and then slipped, and fell into the water.), the reply from the Coroner, that "we don't know how Nicola got into the water", "totally bizarre". But, it didn't end there, a male, and female had to stand in front of the cameras, and tell us to accept all the speculations, and stop speculating any further. Paul, the mastermind behind the scenes gets this message out, just after we learned the Coroners verdict. To me, it looked more like: "Don't feel sorry for Nicola, or don't even think of seeking justice for her, look at me, and how I suffer because of those evil people, who won't stop using their brains. Hide behind the children. We react perfectly normal to this case, and won't rest! Law and Order must change, because we're a new kind of people who have great energy, and are willing to use hours online to search for the truth. We just need more information, and our speculations will become "fact-finding", "truth seeking", "evidence", and "justice".
You need to watch Peters interview, it tells you everything I always said something was odd about this case no way did she kill herself case needs reopening
Are we finally admitting that she did not drown in the reeds???? It was obvious that her body was NOT in the reeds because it would have been found days earlier. The area had already been searched multiple times before. It was dumped by the killer long after.
@@Miss_Vandenburg Nicolas body was found by a man walking his dog. He saw her floating down the middle of the river and eventually she came to rest by the reeds.
Peter Faulding claims to have found Nichola within 6 mins. of searching the river but wasn't allowed to investigate properly. Also mentions a suspicious man in black asking questions. This has also been ignored
Yes and now we know why they were sure she was in the river all along. They didn't want to be the only ones who didn't find her. They knew she was there all along but didn't want Peter to take the credit for finding her
my daughter and I were in a field sorting out her ponies. in Somerset,I had a bad feeling someone was watch us. i looked up a man across a field was pointing a gun at us. we literally dropped and rang 999 no one even came and took a statement. they actually laughed . that’s your police force.
This has happened to me a few times on the green belt land we live behind and right next to a special needs school. I phoned the police, but nothing happened.
I’m not disputing your story, but who laughed, the 999 Police call handler? A report of someone with a firearm is unlikely to be ignored. How near was he, whatsort of gun. You shouldn’t have to, but didn’t you chase this up. I would not have wanted to go back to the field and would’ve been worried about the Ponies. Just saying.
@@EvEl31 Oh, but yes, a call about a firearm would be ignored here in England depending on circumstances. I live right next to green belt land and twice in all of the years I have lived here I have phoned our police about a man with a rifle in the field behind my home. He claimed to be shooting at tree branches, but he was not, he was shooting at birds, but the tree bark was flying into my garden fence. He did it again a few months later, and our Local Authority sent an environmental officer out who identified his rifle as a bolt action version, which is a type of AR 15. They said it was legal as long as he was so many metres from a highway. Unbelievable, but VERY true.
A very strange case,that still makes no sense.The one hour special on TV was weird and spooky and there seemed to be zero genuine emotion from the partner and friend,It was as if they were acting .
Oh & why did Rebecca Smith just coincidentally retire just before this investigation, LP & the lot of the are all corrupt poor Nicolas’s family & kids… Justice for Nicola x
Its extremely difficult to drown yourself especially in that slow moving river,its in your very being to get air and it dont even look that deep either.
@@ladylaughter7393the police said she went in by the bench. Have you seen the water by the bench? It's 18 inches deep and has rocks in it. Anyone sliding down the bank would just get wet calves. She would have had to be launched by a catapult to get in the middle of that river to drown. And the gilet she wore would have acted like a float. Have you ever put a padded jacket in the washer? Those things don't submerge at all
Further to the Peter Faulding interview on TH-cam, Peter said he found Nicola on the 7th of February. He reported his findings to the police and they ignored him. He found her body 75 meters from the bench, so it appears she went into the river after the weir, how she got into the river no one really knows. But I have always suspected foul play, and from the 27th of January when she went missing to the 7th of February is 11 days so it's still possible that she was abducted and kept somewhere, and then put into the river to make it appear that she fell into the river. But I don't think she did. 😢
@@physics4290200 metres away but it was high tide at 12:18 on the 7/2 so likely that although tideless the 3.8m rise in water levels moved her body enough for the police diver 3/4 hours later not to find it ..
I'm sorry, but how they condemn the assistance and proffesiolanism of Peter Faulding and his superbly capable team, smacks to me of scape goating, and incompetence!!!.
Professionalism* Peter is a dispicable human being who used a dead mother for fame. We all remember how often he was speaking to the media during that time which was not only unnecessary but unprofessional. I think we all remember how he was shouting her body wasn’t in the water and yet low and behold, she was.
@@blondie4 I must admit, his constant media work, pressers, etc was, worrying, because I thought he would state, he wouldn't be able to discuss the situation & issues during the investigation. This was a sh*t show all round, unfortunately.
@@blondie4no way is that true. You don't know anything. Ate you willing to discount how many lives he's saved. How many bodies he'd recovered being huge relief to the parents and loved ones. Your chatting utter s***. !!!
Her phone wasnt found on the bench. It was on the ground by the tree. Penny picked it up and placed it on the bench. If Nicola fell into the water while she was on the phone her phone would have gone with her plus her beloved dog would have gone in after her. The police say there was no evidence of foul play but there was no evidence of her going into the water either. She obviously dropped her phone for some reason. Yes, she did drown, but not at that part of the river. It seems pretty clear to me and loads of others that she was put in the water 3 weeks later. Even her Fitbit watch showed a heartbeat for several days after she went missing. Theres a huge cover up here.
The police aren't the reason why we thought and still think her death was suspicious, it is because it is suspicious and has always felt like a cover up. I will personally never believe the (it was an accident) verdict. Considering there were other women in the same county, around the same area within the same time frames going missing by rivers less than 20 miles apart from one another. It's odd that not long after she was found the surge of missing women in Lancashire around rivers and canals suddenly stopped and has been quiet all summer until now. The third person has never been found and has barely even made public knowledge.
Peter reported the man in black loitering around on a number of occasions but they did big fat zero about it. The man's never been tracked down to this day. Also Peter got a team member to take clear shots of his face. If this doesn't get reinvestigated properly and thoroughly this time then we know for a certainty it's a MASSIVE cover up !!!!
@@deb-1558 that's true of a lot of drowning cases. Her being pushed in is the least likely answer though, although many people seem to think they know more than others
It's almost as if the answer to this puzzle lies within the police force itself...who was pulling the strings who did Mrs Bully know in the police force .. something isn't right
Concentrating on the wrong aspects blaming so called 'Communication/Media' mistakes and loss of the narrative. Second people don't understand why her personal information was released? It was to distract, distort and ruin her character and reputation to take away from the police failures and why they couldn't find a body in 5m of water within 3 weeks. The whole operation by the police was an episode it how not to find someone, it's hugely suspicious now that the SIO has retired a couple of days/weeks just before the report released. I still don't think that she was anywhere near that field on that morning. Then the report still didn't answer any questions left open. It was almost as the whole case was a script from a soap opera. Once again main stream media asking all the wrong questions, why is Vanessa asking about Armchair detectives who went their, instead concentrate on the questions that remain unanswered! She vanished on a field, okay! Where is the CCTV/Dashcam footage of her then? She didn't take her own life She didn't fall in since she done that walk numerous times and would have known her surroundings, she was a fitness fanatic, she would have been strong enough to swim out of that river since it was not that deep. That just leaves either: Foul play in which she didn't go to that field on that day Faked her death due to having links to an intelligence service. The mainstream media are really exposing themselves in this case just like the Dando, Gareth Williams cases as well!!
On that other side of thr weir anything in there is held under water. I filmed this phenomenon at a much smaller weir in a tiny creek near me. Nicole wouldn't have had a chance in the river wyre
@@HumanimalChannel I think your deluded if you think that. It is almost shallow by the edge past the weir unless you go further out into the middle in which case she would have bee able to swim out since she was a strong swimmer & fitness fanatic.
At last a person who speaks common sense. I came to same conclusions. Either it was all a fake or she was never near that field that morning. It was like a poorly edited script. And if there is any truth in PF finding her on 8th Feb but then leaving her there that lends itself to a hoax unless it was a hit but why would the police be involved in all that hocus pocus. The partner and his families' testimonies raise many red flags. He over blinks, can't say her name and us almost taunting us... 'something happened in that field. Find out what it is.'. As if he knows what happened as surely as he knew 100 percent she wasn't in the river. And just as he asks for every outbuilding to be searched, she is found in the river by a psychic who was arrested by the same SIO in 2016 in a gang of four with an associate with Ansell as a surname. There are so many links it is hardly credible. So for a long time I thought it was fake. But if it was all fake and this was staged why us there no CCTV of her in the field or walking up the road on a dash cam. She could easily do her walk, log into the conference call, leave the phone on the bench and drop the harness, leave the dog and simply leave by the hidden field, crossing by the shallow bit of the Weir or by the path through the campsite and get the campsite owner to discover the dog. But the lack of CCTV Sheds doubt as to whether she were there at all. If you are going to stage a disappearance you need to be filmed near the location you disappear. Unless it is a bad script and they mucked that bit up. Why do you think the SIO was running the case. She normally deals in drugs cases. Do you think she has retired or gone under cover.
@@goncaloamaral7846well it was either foul play or a hoax. Paul's timeline doesn't add up. Police came to him too quickly and dismissed him and his spouse goes missing. How do they know she didn't come back to do her work call at home anda fight occurred and he asked his auntie for help.
Yeah and LP refused to let him and his team dive there to recover her body then said they wud do it. Then lied and said there was nothing there. They are so transparent it's beyond a disgrace.
Always amazing to me how people just don't see the bigger picture!. Think you'll find that Peter and his team packed up and left after having informed the police that they had marked a body in the river, then were informed that it wasn't a body....he believed them, when in actual fact, they hadn't even looked!. If the police, once informed, had then either allowed SGI to dive and recover or done so themselves, then Nicola would have been recovered on the 7th February, instead of the 19th. If correct procedure had been followed, then a cordon would have been in place and no-one would have been able to approach and question either Peter, basic police or anyone!. They didn't even cordon off when recovering her from river!. Pathetic!. Now we have people like you slagging off a man who did this for free, a man who recovers many bodies each year!. He certainly didn't need any publicity because his reputation says it all!. You need to gen up on information before opening your mouth, because you've just made yourself look ignorant!. Oh dear!.
"he believed them, when in actual fact, they hadn't even looked!" Wrong, they dived the target in good visibility and it was branches. Stop spreading BS like everybody else is.
@@random6809they dived 3/4 hours later after high tide at 12.18 and a 3.8 m rise in water level so unlikely the body would have still been there ..PF discovered the target at 10:18 and reported it at 10:52 following analysis…. It took three hours for the divers , who were searching elsewhere, to turn up … opportunity missed. The weir has a 2 metre drop so at high tide wash back occurs pulling debris and objects underwater downstream … unfortunately that was a crucial time to miss because between 12:18 and after 2pm when they dived the water was travelling at 1.3M per second pre weir FACTS and definitely not BS!!
No - he found her on the 7th the first day that he was called to search and the police didn’t search the area for 4 hours after which by then the body would have moved. If they had said to Peter search and recovery she would have been found on the 7th. She went missing on the 27th.
why did feltz repeat this personal information. Why??? so unecessary and just furthered damage to her living family. stop repeating specifics. Stop!! no lessons learnt here
The police shouldn't have blabbed personal information. The cover should be severely reprimanded. The police should have also arrested every single thrill seeker who treated the area like their own personal playground,and made nuisances of themselves asking intrusive questions of the locals just to do a damn TH-cam vid.
Effing typical. Unless there are sanctions against shoddy incompetent handling & corruption, etc, then the police will never learn. Those found wanting, should have their huge pensions, bought into jeopardy.
Lancashire police are not fit, that clown diver didn’t even check the area that Peter found her, they left her in the river for weeks. A new investigation is needed.
Peter wasn't even asked to attend the hearing...in fact he should have been ordered to attend the hearing as an expert witness...he actually located her body and this was ignored by the police
@@random6809 we don't know that until he shows us his pictures of what he thinks was a body. It is odd he wasn't called to coroner's because the police called him in as a specialist so all opinions are valid.
Of course it is, just like we are supposed to believe: A person who walks the same dangerous path daily mistakenly falls in the water A competent swimmer can’t manage to get out of shallow water A dog that loves water is bone dry when found The people finding “Willow” either can’t see a body in the water or don’t look The Fitbit used to determine likely time of death can’t be trusted when it continues recording signs of life after the reported time of death The two independent reports of screaming which timewise co-incide with the Fitbit data showing last reported signs of life are deemed to be from children at a school Peter Faulding who has assisted the Police in numerous missing people cases is demonised on this one The speculation will go away if the Police show the image of what he gave them purporting to be the body, the full Fitbit data which they have and which shows when steps stopped and what the BPM reported was, the full Phone data which they have, evidence of the branches they are saying is the body and a full explanation of why they’ve dismissed the people who heard the screams. @@random6809
First thing police do when there is a missing person is ask the public ie there will always be different scenarios that saying what you say will be used
This needs another police force to deal with this case the 3 main suspects paul emma Louise need interrogating Mr snownden doesn't represent the public he's a useless TWIT
It was none of those. I believe it was the man in black that witnesses saw including the diver Peter Faulding who found Nicolas body on the the 7th. He saw this man several times and ask one of his friends to take a photo of him. That was passed on to the police and they did nothing.
Mark Williams.Tomas sounds like just the right person we need to help us in our struggle to get the facts, and evidence, we so desperately need, and search for. We are not the enemy. Things had changed, and the UK better wake up to a whole new understanding of Law and Crime watchers. The US is the leader on the Crime Scene, and we're used to watch the whole process play out, we're in the courts for trials, we're on verdict watch, we search articles in newspapers, and we dig, and dig alongside them. If detectives did a good job, we compliment them, but we won't sing their praises if they buggered up from the start, leaving the prosecutors with nothing to work with, and the defense lawyers a chance to win the case. That's where we are now. Prosecutors with nothing.
To see a Female Police officer conducting a Press Conference whilst dressed as though she was off to a party. The impression was appalling and unprofessional.
They are still focused on controlling the narrative. One problem is that there is a huge gap between public expectations about how quickly a body should be found under these conditions and what is actually achievable with reasonable expense. They are hiding the fact that there are not enough divers funded for these incidents. And there is probably a lack of investment in robotic equipment as well. I think Peter Faulding's removal as an expert was entirely political. As an outsider watching Lancashire police from across the pond, I saw a clannish department that ostracized outside expertise and was fearful of being eclipsed by it. I am concerned by these reports that they ignored Faulding's finding 75 meters from the bench and dismissed it as a tree. There should be a review of how that was determined. Because it is very possible that was Nicola's body. It is extremely unlikely she went over the weir before they arrived that first day. I don't know how independent the College of Policing is. The fact that Andrew Snowden chose them suggests he was confident of the result. Regarding the danger of these dives, I think the public might have trouble understanding why it is so difficult to see under only 15 feet of water. Is the problem illumination? If Faulding gave them coordinates of a side scan sonar finding, is it impossible to use a pole camera to look at what is there?
If they were going to release any medical information that was relevant, it should have been that she was taking propranolol. The Independent reported it was prescribed for anxiety, but I think it is more likely it was prescribed for her migraines. It lowers blood pressure and heart rate and can cause dizziness. People taking it need to avoid alcohol. It's relevant because dizziness may explain why she fell. And I believe it was reported she suffered a fall at home when they had that ambulance call earlier in January. It is odd that there has to be evidence of a crime to call it a crime, but there doesn't have to be evidence of an accident to call it an accident. Accident is just the default cause of death in the absence of evidence. It would be better to call it undetermined. Statistically, accidental drowning is the least likely thing to have happened to a woman her age. Suicide and homicide are far more likely, and it is very hard to investigate homicides that occur near water. I am concerned that they dismissed a scream that was reported by two people as unrelated. Knowing that Faulding did have a finding near the bench that they dismissed as a tree makes me more inclined to think she did just have an accident. Because if she was on the other side of the weir from Day 1, I think she went in the water on the other side of the weir, and that does not seem accidental to me. Maybe if a finding of "accident" triggered an expensive remediation such as fencing or barriers at that bench, they would be more inclined to call it undetermined.
Having sent Mark full details re the Fitbit Nicola was wearing and his lack of reply. I question how it can be that the said Fitbit was able to record a heartbeat days after her going missing??
Day One call SOCO close the area !!! LP messed up and were arrogant with it from First Min saying shes gone in the water and we are sticking to it Not open minded Like all investigations should be ,It needs this case re opening Never printed her Fit Bit info either
The media were off the scale as well, hungary for salacious copy , always wanting to be first.... indulging every crackpot theory and indulging that sonar guy like his word was gospel 😢
@@GavinScrimgeour there's nothing more dangerous than people who know nothing being led to believe that their opinion is worthwhile. It seems that TikTok in particular has made people believe that their idiotic theories are deserving of attention, despite the fact that *actual* experts on drowning and with decades of knowledge on forensics have determined that she likely fell in and drowned. But no, that's not enough. To them, there's clearly foul play. Those experts aren't even 'the police', so the poor handling of the case isn't their doing and doesn't reflect their abilities. The stupid thing is that even a few minutes of online research will tell you that people drown in under 3 feet of water very frequently. She could have had a fit, a stroke or a panic attack. The actual mechanism behind drowning in an area like she did is completely feasible and the only story that the armchair detectives had was the phone on the bench and the dog not 'jumping in after her' - their logical extension from this is foul play to the point where they're happy to also believe that the dog didn't attack this assailant, which is another thing that a dog would generally do. It's like they only want to believe what they want to believe and aren't interested in the facts being more mundane. The same sick and twisted ghouls were blaming her partner with zero evidence, blaming her friend with zero evidence and hypothesising that her body was put back in the water. The level of dumbf**kery is beyond comprehension.
I could never understand how she entered the water if it was an accident. However I just read a couple of days ago that she had attended outpatients with a head injury. It hasn't been disclosed what caused it but she complained of feeling dizzy and nauseous. The CT scans came back clear but I'm wondering if she had a dizzy turn near the river and fell in. A long shot yes, but plausible.
Mark Williams-Thomas, an investigative journalist? Lol ok talktv 😂😂😂 hes a disgraced ex policeman grifter sacked from the force for attempted blackmail.
Wedhing some points might be not valid. More jobs lord knows. Media has its place, so law, social thought and because the absolute in other cases, as some try not changing , its not the biggest problem imo. It can be a sore spot, however, all i know want the full truth for results ..it does say not all investigative assert is agreed on. Why? Are there that many concerted efforts or because therws a divide in truth wholly? .
I suggest your journalists read the report properly instead of picking out misleading phrases and inferring they are the whole. In the report, police are praised for conducting a very good police investigation. They are criticised for not managing the communications better. The clown Peter Falding is rightly criticised for his all round unprofessional behaviour and exploitation of the family. To the point of making national recommendations so such an opportunist can never do that again. His recent 'recollection ' of finding a body has been made as a distraction to the shameful behaviour outlined in the report. Talk TV must be either naive or stupid, or they haven't actually read the report.
They failed...yet they were right she fell into the river and died. I fail to see how that's a failure. Had they said that but she'd been murder, absolutely they failed, but that didn't happen. The media also had the info on menapause and alcohol abuse, they were going to run the story, the police gt ahead of that, had they not they'd have been deemed wrong then. Lastly had she been struggling with chronic pain and mot menapause then turned to drimk no one would have given a damn. People go mising all the time and their persomal information is released, ffs what exactly where the police supposed to do? And this "expert" talking on here, he said she wasn't in the river, so why on earth is he being listened too on this? He was wrong the police were right.
Absolutely no proof she fell into the river. No foot prints or marks on the river bank. She would have only slipped into a couple of feet of water, to drown she would need to be much further out. Why did divers not find her? How did she get over the weir. Its not possible. This is why so many people didnt believe the police.
Her spouse Paul said he knew 100 percent she wasn't in the river. So he knew where she was initially. No one saw what happened so no one can say if it were an accident or not. There was a man pushing women in rivers. One survived. He was a tall man in black. People do get pushed in rivers . If it was an accident her phone and harness would have gone in too.
You've obviously not watched the Peter Faulding interview where he said there was a man in black, as mentioned during the coroner's report, hanging around asking questions and mingling with crowd even though he was not known to locals. Needs re investigating 🤔☹️ No we don't know what happened to her, only what people think happened to her. This was not an accident.
I agree!
It was most likely a TH-camr called Exploring with Danny. He apparently was there planting/moving evidence
Lancashire police from the start gave a great impression that Nicola committed suicide... no area roped off from the public. It is obvious they knew of Nicola's personal problems from the start and went with it!
@@funkinelle247it wasnt him danny isnt that slim with long legs i hired hit imo
@@princesstippytoes3😂
Incompetence or cover up. Peter Faulding has now spoken out and I believe him.
Link to faulding soaking out ?
I saw it on a TH-cam channel called.....
Break the ice.
Yup peter foulding is very unprofessional
@@fordcapri6288What the fuck are you taking about. He found her body
@@fordcapri6288 actually he was the only one that knew what he was doing...go find his interview and listen to what he has to say...he was made a scapegoat
Suspicious man in black walking close to Nicola and they completely ignored it. Yes, they failed.
Oh stop talking rot. She drowned.
It was probably a PCSO walking round like a zombie !
@@PotatoPirate123Evidence?
@@PotatoPirate123NO SHE DIDN'T
@@irenedavo3768 the evidence of forensics. You know, the professionals. Rather than TikTok theorists who can offer no evidence at all.
I'd like to see another force come in and carry out a whole new investigation into Nicola's death. Something doesn't add up. Lancashire police were convinced she'd drowned in the river from minute one.
They will all back each other up sadly
The whole of the British police force is so corrupt
As she was supposed to be in the river all along and its a definable area why didn't they stay there to look constantly.
Hairy crotch again
There's been info out that they actually did find her stuck at the bottom near where she dissapeared 6 minutes in to the search, but for some reason she was left there. Another channel had some info out from Peter Faulding where he had turned in the info to the police but they dismissed the findings, so he kept looking.
Complete cover up. WHY ??? I smell a rat. 🐀
The LP had their own narrative and made huge mistakes from the off set, they didn’t like the fact that SGI were called in as it left them open to further scrutiny. They didn’t allow PF to dive to retrieve/ recover Nicolas body when he originally reported his finding on his 2nd day searching as they knew it possibly might reflect badly on them and their own search efforts. Also by Nicolas body being found earlier possibly there would have been more evidence and have turned their whole narrative upside down into a murder enquiry which LP clearly were trying to steer clear from. The question is WHY ? So glad PF didn’t sign a NDA he was the one from the beginning who was professional and acting in the best interest of Nicola and her family. The police have a huge amount of explaining to do with regards to this case disgraceful
Where was Nicola for 23 days?
@@irenedavo3768She was in the river
Bang on the point 👉
@@suemjloaf no she wasn't
Don't be so naive. Can you not work out Falding's interest in behaving as he does, then and now ?
I always had a bad feeling about this case. That poor, lovely lady and her family. ❤
I don't think the public's reaction was "totally bizarre" at all. It was fairly obvious from the beginning that there was more to this, and that the police were mismanaging the investigation. It's perfectly normal to speculate, and if you read the inquiry about her death, it pure speculation. "She could have, she may have" etc. Such hypocrisy.
Paul's "wild speculation" at the Inquest was "totally bizarre", (Nicola was used to juggle between many jobs, and maybe she put her phone down, while still listening to the meeting, and tried to put the harness on Willow, and then slipped, and fell into the water.), the reply from the Coroner, that "we don't know how Nicola got into the water", "totally bizarre".
But, it didn't end there, a male, and female had to stand in front of the cameras, and tell us to accept all the speculations, and stop speculating any further. Paul, the mastermind behind the scenes gets this message out, just after we learned the Coroners verdict. To me, it looked more like: "Don't feel sorry for Nicola, or don't even think of seeking justice for her, look at me, and how I suffer because of those evil people, who won't stop using their brains. Hide behind the children.
We react perfectly normal to this case, and won't rest! Law and Order must change, because we're a new kind of people who have great energy, and are willing to use hours online to search for the truth. We just need more information, and our speculations will become "fact-finding", "truth seeking", "evidence", and "justice".
We lost all faith in the police well before this happened!!!
You need to watch Peters interview, it tells you everything I always said something was odd about this case no way did she kill herself case needs reopening
Where is the new interview, I can't find it
She slipped and fell.
Why are you bringing up suicide as if its ruled that this is what happened.
May Nicola Rest in Peace! 🕊 Bless her children and her parents.
Are we finally admitting that she did not drown in the reeds???? It was obvious that her body was NOT in the reeds because it would have been found days earlier. The area had already been searched multiple times before. It was dumped by the killer long after.
My thoughts exactly 💯
Have you not watched the interview with Peter Faulding ? He found her
@@Miss_Vandenburg Nicolas body was found by a man walking his dog. He saw her floating down the middle of the river and eventually she came to rest by the reeds.
@@sandrapritchard9810 you’ve obviously not watched Peter Fauldings new interview, I suggest you find it
Have a link?
Peter Faulding claims to have found Nichola within 6 mins.
of searching the river but wasn't allowed to investigate properly.
Also mentions a suspicious man in black asking questions.
This has also been ignored
Yes and now we know why they were sure she was in the river all along. They didn't want to be the only ones who didn't find her. They knew she was there all along but didn't want Peter to take the credit for finding her
@@ArcticM125The longer a body stays in the water the more forensic evidence is destroyed. They didn't want her found
This poor woman has been failed by the whole of Lancashire police 😢
Dodgy case from the start a lot of things did not add up. Feel sorry for her poor kids.
A new inquest needs to take place in view of Peter Fauldings comments today
Yes especially his claims about the man in black lurking around the scene
Professional incompetence.... only question is.... was this on purpose??!!
She was murdered
Reopen the case I say.
l have just watched the interview with Peter Faulding this should be properly investigated, PLEASE watch, this should not be ignored.
What interview?
Do the police ever really investigate anything? In my experience the police are an absolute joke!
Thank you Vanessa , Nicola needs a voice to get justice for Nicola and her girls 💛
my daughter and I were in a field sorting out her ponies. in Somerset,I had a bad feeling someone was watch us. i looked up a man across a field was pointing a gun at us. we literally dropped and rang 999 no one even came and took a statement. they actually laughed . that’s your police force.
This has happened to me a few times on the green belt land we live behind and right next to a special needs school. I phoned the police, but nothing happened.
@@1961-v9k it’s just so unbelievable isn’t it. ?
@@ladylaois8184 it’s appalling 🙄
I’m not disputing your story, but who laughed, the 999 Police call handler? A report of someone with a firearm is unlikely to be ignored. How near was he, whatsort of gun. You shouldn’t have to, but didn’t you chase this up. I would not have wanted to go back to the field and would’ve been worried about the Ponies. Just saying.
@@EvEl31 Oh, but yes, a call about a firearm would be ignored here in England depending on circumstances. I live right next to green belt land and twice in all of the years I have lived here I have phoned our police about a man with a rifle in the field behind my home. He claimed to be shooting at tree branches, but he was not, he was shooting at birds, but the tree bark was flying into my garden fence. He did it again a few months later, and our Local Authority sent an environmental officer out who identified his rifle as a bolt action version, which is a type of AR 15. They said it was legal as long as he was so many metres from a highway. Unbelievable, but VERY true.
She was murdered m8.plain and simple 😢
You're the only simple one
@@PotatoPirate123 how's that..explain lol
A very strange case,that still makes no sense.The one hour special on TV was weird and spooky and there seemed to be zero genuine emotion from the partner and friend,It was as if they were acting .
I think it is all acting. A mid winter murder.
But if it's not acting it is worrying we have such sloppy policing.
Oh & why did Rebecca Smith just coincidentally retire just before this investigation, LP & the lot of the are all corrupt poor Nicolas’s family & kids… Justice for Nicola x
Yes, there is no way her 'retirement' is a coincidence...happening around the time of this investigation into their handling of this case 🤨
and the twisted coroner retired
Is it true the coroner retired
Its a very suspicious cover up...
The whole case stinks
Its extremely difficult to drown yourself especially in that slow moving river,its in your very being to get air and it dont even look that deep either.
That's how much you know. hahaha@@mleh-qx8mo
You should go and demonstrate
@@mleh-qx8mo
January
@@ladylaughter7393the police said she went in by the bench. Have you seen the water by the bench? It's 18 inches deep and has rocks in it. Anyone sliding down the bank would just get wet calves. She would have had to be launched by a catapult to get in the middle of that river to drown. And the gilet she wore would have acted like a float. Have you ever put a padded jacket in the washer? Those things don't submerge at all
@mleh-qx8mo December doesn't mean you can't swim. If I fall in that river, I'm getting out again., albeit a bit wetter than I was before.
Further to the Peter Faulding interview on TH-cam, Peter said he found Nicola on the 7th of February. He reported his findings to the police and they ignored him. He found her body 75 meters from the bench, so it appears she went into the river after the weir, how she got into the river no one really knows. But I have always suspected foul play, and from the 27th of January when she went missing to the 7th of February is 11 days so it's still possible that she was abducted and kept somewhere, and then put into the river to make it appear that she fell into the river. But I don't think she did. 😢
Where is this interview ?
I think the weir is more than 75 meters from the bench, no?
@@soccergalsarasearch for break the ice on TH-cam .He did an interview with PF few days ago
@@physics4290200 metres away but it was high tide at 12:18 on the 7/2 so likely that although tideless the 3.8m rise in water levels moved her body enough for the police diver 3/4 hours later not to find it ..
Yes I thought the weir was further. But that means she went in from the hidden field which was where the dig was running to and fro.
Why wasn’t she on any cctv at the school etc?
Schools don't typically have CCTV. Certainly not in the playground. Also I think her own kids would know if she took them to school.
@@PotatoPirate123 no cctv anywhere.
@@TheWorldisSoDivided outside of town centres and people's front drives/Ring doorbells there isn't necessarily CCTV.
@@PotatoPirate123 the park had at least 2 cameras
cause she was already a goner
I'm sorry, but how they condemn the assistance and proffesiolanism of Peter Faulding and his superbly capable team, smacks to me of scape goating, and incompetence!!!.
Professionalism*
Peter is a dispicable human being who used a dead mother for fame. We all remember how often he was speaking to the media during that time which was not only unnecessary but unprofessional. I think we all remember how he was shouting her body wasn’t in the water and yet low and behold, she was.
@@blondie4 I must admit, his constant media work, pressers, etc was, worrying, because I thought he would state, he wouldn't be able to discuss the situation & issues during the investigation. This was a sh*t show all round, unfortunately.
@@blondie4no way is that true.
You don't know anything.
Ate you willing to discount how many lives he's saved. How many bodies he'd recovered being huge relief to the parents and loved ones.
Your chatting utter s***. !!!
Her phone wasnt found on the bench. It was on the ground by the tree. Penny picked it up and placed it on the bench. If Nicola fell into the water while she was on the phone her phone would have gone with her plus her beloved dog would have gone in after her. The police say there was no evidence of foul play but there was no evidence of her going into the water either. She obviously dropped her phone for some reason. Yes, she did drown, but not at that part of the river. It seems pretty clear to me and loads of others that she was put in the water 3 weeks later. Even her Fitbit watch showed a heartbeat for several days after she went missing. Theres a huge cover up here.
'Put in the water 3 weeks later'. Do you realise how absolutely STUPID this statement is 😂😂😂😂😂
@@PotatoPirate123Potato!
@@Fortean23I wrote to Coroner Tracked! No reply!
Where Foot Prints taken?
@@PotatoPirate123ow did she get into water with no foot prints?
I tried to buy whitewash from my local B & Q last week. They told me that all stock nationally had been bought up by COP weeks ago
Yet again people in authority won't be held to account
As always ..
Well said Mark William Thomas, you should do a documentary following this case.
Yeah, he could be a spokesperson for armchair detectives around the world. We need more information, and should not be left in the dark.
The police need to be investigated. Huge cover up here.
and coroner
The police aren't the reason why we thought and still think her death was suspicious, it is because it is suspicious and has always felt like a cover up. I will personally never believe the (it was an accident) verdict. Considering there were other women in the same county, around the same area within the same time frames going missing by rivers less than 20 miles apart from one another. It's odd that not long after she was found the surge of missing women in Lancashire around rivers and canals suddenly stopped and has been quiet all summer until now. The third person has never been found and has barely even made public knowledge.
Peter reported the man in black loitering around on a number of occasions but they did big fat zero about it.
The man's never been tracked down to this day.
Also Peter got a team member to take clear shots of his face. If this doesn't get reinvestigated properly and thoroughly this time then we know for a certainty it's a MASSIVE cover up !!!!
Also the vet
@@ArcticM125 we know that it's a massive blunder.
I've always said her death was suspicious
How does this make it suspicious?
@@PotatoPirate123 Nobody knows how she got in the water
@@deb-1558 that's true of a lot of drowning cases. Her being pushed in is the least likely answer though, although many people seem to think they know more than others
@@PotatoPirate123they do don’t they 😉
@@Lindy405 is that wink to make you look like a clever sausage?
No way did she drown, ludicrous incompetence
It's almost as if the answer to this puzzle lies within the police force itself...who was pulling the strings who did Mrs Bully know in the police force .. something isn't right
Don’t forget it was members of the public who found her.
Concentrating on the wrong aspects blaming so called 'Communication/Media' mistakes and loss of the narrative.
Second people don't understand why her personal information was released? It was to distract, distort and ruin her character and reputation to take away from the police failures and why they couldn't find a body in 5m of water within 3 weeks.
The whole operation by the police was an episode it how not to find someone, it's hugely suspicious now that the SIO has retired a couple of days/weeks just before the report released.
I still don't think that she was anywhere near that field on that morning. Then the report still didn't answer any questions left open. It was almost as the whole case was a script from a soap opera.
Once again main stream media asking all the wrong questions, why is Vanessa asking about Armchair detectives who went their, instead concentrate on the questions that remain unanswered!
She vanished on a field, okay! Where is the CCTV/Dashcam footage of her then?
She didn't take her own life
She didn't fall in since she done that walk numerous times and would have known her surroundings, she was a fitness fanatic, she would have been strong enough to swim out of that river since it was not that deep.
That just leaves either:
Foul play in which she didn't go to that field on that day
Faked her death due to having links to an intelligence service.
The mainstream media are really exposing themselves in this case just like the Dando, Gareth Williams cases as well!!
On that other side of thr weir anything in there is held under water. I filmed this phenomenon at a much smaller weir in a tiny creek near me. Nicole wouldn't have had a chance in the river wyre
@@HumanimalChannel I think your deluded if you think that. It is almost shallow by the edge past the weir unless you go further out into the middle in which case she would have bee able to swim out since she was a strong swimmer & fitness fanatic.
At last a person who speaks common sense. I came to same conclusions. Either it was all a fake or she was never near that field that morning.
It was like a poorly edited script.
And if there is any truth in PF finding her on 8th Feb but then leaving her there that lends itself to a hoax unless it was a hit but why would the police be involved in all that hocus pocus.
The partner and his families' testimonies raise many red flags. He over blinks, can't say her name and us almost taunting us... 'something happened in that field. Find out what it is.'. As if he knows what happened as surely as he knew 100 percent she wasn't in the river. And just as he asks for every outbuilding to be searched, she is found in the river by a psychic who was arrested by the same SIO in 2016 in a gang of four with an associate with Ansell as a surname.
There are so many links it is hardly credible. So for a long time I thought it was fake.
But if it was all fake and this was staged why us there no CCTV of her in the field or walking up the road on a dash cam.
She could easily do her walk, log into the conference call, leave the phone on the bench and drop the harness, leave the dog and simply leave by the hidden field, crossing by the shallow bit of the Weir or by the path through the campsite and get the campsite owner to discover the dog. But the lack of CCTV Sheds doubt as to whether she were there at all. If you are going to stage a disappearance you need to be filmed near the location you disappear. Unless it is a bad script and they mucked that bit up.
Why do you think the SIO was running the case. She normally deals in drugs cases. Do you think she has retired or gone under cover.
We ALL know she didn't just accidentally fall in and they can't say for sure she did anyway so how can you come to a conclusion with NO proof
The problem is in the inquest, some of the facts were ignored. N Bulley was pushed in the water and the police falled to recognise the crime.
You weren’t there, are making things up as you go along & have no self awareness.
Didn't fail just chose not to for various reasons time,money, arogance who know's but when they were questioned it was Police 101 Narcissism
inquest was sewn up befor inquest begun
@@burningsoul1365 no, you’re paranoid and only hope there was foul play which is weird of you.
@@goncaloamaral7846well it was either foul play or a hoax. Paul's timeline doesn't add up. Police came to him too quickly and dismissed him and his spouse goes missing. How do they know she didn't come back to do her work call at home anda fight occurred and he asked his auntie for help.
But Peter found her he's just announced
Yeah and LP refused to let him and his team dive there to recover her body then said they wud do it. Then lied and said there was nothing there.
They are so transparent it's beyond a disgrace.
Always amazing to me how people just don't see the bigger picture!. Think you'll find that Peter and his team packed up and left after having informed the police that they had marked a body in the river, then were informed that it wasn't a body....he believed them, when in actual fact, they hadn't even looked!. If the police, once informed, had then either allowed SGI to dive and recover or done so themselves, then Nicola would have been recovered on the 7th February, instead of the 19th. If correct procedure had been followed, then a cordon would have been in place and no-one would have been able to approach and question either Peter, basic police or anyone!. They didn't even cordon off when recovering her from river!. Pathetic!. Now we have people like you slagging off a man who did this for free, a man who recovers many bodies each year!. He certainly didn't need any publicity because his reputation says it all!. You need to gen up on information before opening your mouth, because you've just made yourself look ignorant!. Oh dear!.
"he believed them, when in actual fact, they hadn't even looked!"
Wrong, they dived the target in good visibility and it was branches.
Stop spreading BS like everybody else is.
@@random6809they dived 3/4 hours later after high tide at 12.18 and a 3.8 m rise in water level so unlikely the body would have still been there ..PF discovered the target at 10:18 and reported it at 10:52 following analysis…. It took three hours for the divers , who were searching elsewhere, to turn up … opportunity missed. The weir has a 2 metre drop so at high tide wash back occurs pulling debris and objects underwater downstream … unfortunately that was a crucial time to miss because between 12:18 and after 2pm when they dived the water was travelling at 1.3M per second pre weir
FACTS and definitely not BS!!
@@random6809You’re the bullshit merchant. Lair
Peter faulding actually found Nicola & cops didn’t want to know & practically hunted him
Peter Faulding found Nicola the day after she went missing..gave the police the information???
No - he found her on the 7th the first day that he was called to search and the police didn’t search the area for 4 hours after which by then the body would have moved. If they had said to Peter search and recovery she would have been found on the 7th. She went missing on the 27th.
I was always unsure about dates , now I understand thanks
Nicola and her family were failed .
Why would she leave her phone on the bench ??? That’s my question !
why did feltz repeat this personal information. Why??? so unecessary and just furthered damage to her living family. stop repeating specifics. Stop!! no lessons learnt here
Nicola was MURDERED….COVER UP
Thank you for covering this. RIP Nicola💔🙏no footprints? Carried & dropped into the water?
I wrote to Coroner! Tracked! No reply!
How did she enter the water, the man in black, the screams, the bruises on her body.
Why would the husband let Nicola take the kids to school by car if she was an alcoholic? 🤔🤨
Not a thing to do with the husband. He was manipulated by the police
It was stated that she had issues with alcohol, not that she was an alcoholic. It could be as simple as a bottle of wine each evening.
The verdict should hsve been open verdict. Or undetermined.
The police shouldn't have blabbed personal information. The cover should be severely reprimanded. The police should have also arrested every single thrill seeker who treated the area like their own personal playground,and made nuisances of themselves asking intrusive questions of the locals just to do a damn TH-cam vid.
Peter sent a photo of the man in black to the police did they interview him?
The fall in january wasnt a fall. The neighbour heard arguments and called the police. She had bruising and saud she fell.
Apparently the SIO never visited the scene??
Too busy talking to psychics to find bodies whom she had arrested before in drug gangs.
Rebecca Smith needs sacking with no pension
She actually just retired and it was a smidge earlier than she was supposed to. Gone just before the release of this report…
Effing typical. Unless there are sanctions against shoddy incompetent handling & corruption, etc, then the police will never learn. Those found wanting, should have their huge pensions, bought into jeopardy.
She had no alcohol in her system nor other drugs. What caused her to leave the bench.
Lancashire police are not fit, that clown diver didn’t even check the area that Peter found her, they left her in the river for weeks. A new investigation is needed.
I really really hope she releases a brand new album. 🙏 Her voice is so pivotal in our world. So beautiful
Peter wasn't even asked to attend the hearing...in fact he should have been ordered to attend the hearing as an expert witness...he actually located her body and this was ignored by the police
Yes I thought that odd. The police call him in then ignore his evidence.
"he actually located her body "
He located branches, as confirmed by the diver who actually looked.
@@random6809 we don't know that until he shows us his pictures of what he thinks was a body.
It is odd he wasn't called to coroner's because the police called him in as a specialist so all opinions are valid.
Of course it is, just like we are supposed to believe:
A person who walks the same dangerous path daily mistakenly falls in the water
A competent swimmer can’t manage to get out of shallow water
A dog that loves water is bone dry when found
The people finding “Willow” either can’t see a body in the water or don’t look
The Fitbit used to determine likely time of death can’t be trusted when it continues recording signs of life after the reported time of death
The two independent reports of screaming which timewise co-incide with the Fitbit data showing last reported signs of life are deemed to be from children at a school
Peter Faulding who has assisted the Police in numerous missing people cases is demonised on this one
The speculation will go away if the Police show the image of what he gave them purporting to be the body, the full Fitbit data which they have and which shows when steps stopped and what the BPM reported was, the full Phone data which they have, evidence of the branches they are saying is the body and a full explanation of why they’ve dismissed the people who heard the screams.
@@random6809
What about Per Faulding finding a target after 6 hours but police didn’t want to know. Coverup …
You mean the target that was found to be branches....LMFAO!
he found her after 6 minutes
@@random6809well until we see his picture we don't know.
@@courtneysquill8843
We DO know, two sonar experts have already told us AND a diver actually looked.
Re-open new investigation by different police. Justice for Nicola!
Whats new?? It will happen again and again, the whole world is oversharing. 😢
She was killed
Sure Marie. I imagine Facebook or TikTok told you that
@@PotatoPirate123
I read it on the Internet, so it much be true!
First thing police do when there is a missing person is ask the public ie there will always be different scenarios that saying what you say will be used
This needs another police force to deal with this case the 3 main suspects paul emma Louise need interrogating Mr snownden doesn't represent the public he's a useless TWIT
It was none of those. I believe it was the man in black that witnesses saw including the diver Peter Faulding who found Nicolas body on the the 7th. He saw this man several times and ask one of his friends to take a photo of him. That was passed on to the police and they did nothing.
andy marsh total disgrace
Mark Williams.Tomas sounds like just the right person we need to help us in our struggle to get the facts, and evidence, we so desperately need, and search for. We are not the enemy. Things had changed, and the UK better wake up to a whole new understanding of Law and Crime watchers. The US is the leader on the Crime Scene, and we're used to watch the whole process play out, we're in the courts for trials, we're on verdict watch, we search articles in newspapers, and we dig, and dig alongside them.
If detectives did a good job, we compliment them, but we won't sing their praises if they buggered up from the start, leaving the prosecutors with nothing to work with, and the defense lawyers a chance to win the case. That's where we are now. Prosecutors with nothing.
He's Not to be trusted..
To see a Female Police officer conducting a Press Conference whilst dressed as though she was off to a party. The impression was appalling and unprofessional.
Misogyny is worse.
They are still focused on controlling the narrative. One problem is that there is a huge gap between public expectations about how quickly a body should be found under these conditions and what is actually achievable with reasonable expense. They are hiding the fact that there are not enough divers funded for these incidents. And there is probably a lack of investment in robotic equipment as well. I think Peter Faulding's removal as an expert was entirely political. As an outsider watching Lancashire police from across the pond, I saw a clannish department that ostracized outside expertise and was fearful of being eclipsed by it. I am concerned by these reports that they ignored Faulding's finding 75 meters from the bench and dismissed it as a tree. There should be a review of how that was determined. Because it is very possible that was Nicola's body. It is extremely unlikely she went over the weir before they arrived that first day. I don't know how independent the College of Policing is. The fact that Andrew Snowden chose them suggests he was confident of the result. Regarding the danger of these dives, I think the public might have trouble understanding why it is so difficult to see under only 15 feet of water. Is the problem illumination? If Faulding gave them coordinates of a side scan sonar finding, is it impossible to use a pole camera to look at what is there?
So sad was she pushed in I think so 😢
If they were going to release any medical information that was relevant, it should have been that she was taking propranolol. The Independent reported it was prescribed for anxiety, but I think it is more likely it was prescribed for her migraines. It lowers blood pressure and heart rate and can cause dizziness. People taking it need to avoid alcohol. It's relevant because dizziness may explain why she fell. And I believe it was reported she suffered a fall at home when they had that ambulance call earlier in January. It is odd that there has to be evidence of a crime to call it a crime, but there doesn't have to be evidence of an accident to call it an accident. Accident is just the default cause of death in the absence of evidence. It would be better to call it undetermined. Statistically, accidental drowning is the least likely thing to have happened to a woman her age. Suicide and homicide are far more likely, and it is very hard to investigate homicides that occur near water. I am concerned that they dismissed a scream that was reported by two people as unrelated. Knowing that Faulding did have a finding near the bench that they dismissed as a tree makes me more inclined to think she did just have an accident. Because if she was on the other side of the weir from Day 1, I think she went in the water on the other side of the weir, and that does not seem accidental to me. Maybe if a finding of "accident" triggered an expensive remediation such as fencing or barriers at that bench, they would be more inclined to call it undetermined.
Vey suspicious to me fol play peter faulding foynd her in 6 mins look at his interview
So you believe his word then?
Having sent Mark full details re the Fitbit Nicola was wearing and his lack of reply. I question how it can be that the said Fitbit was able to record a heartbeat days after her going missing??
Pauls got the house up for sale now and stands to gain half a million pounds its definitely not about money or affairs with emma and Louise 😂
The house will be mortgaged, he will not get that at all you m0r0n.
Day One call SOCO close the area !!! LP messed up and were arrogant with it from First Min saying shes gone in the water and we are sticking to it Not open minded Like all investigations should be ,It needs this case re opening Never printed her Fit Bit info either
No it was it was a member if the drug gang arrested bybthe same sio in 2016 with an associate called Ansell.
Or lack of crime scene
Wrong crime scene.
@@courtneysquill8843 correct..
The media were off the scale as well, hungary for salacious copy , always wanting to be first.... indulging every crackpot theory and indulging that sonar guy like his word was gospel 😢
Willow her Dog was DRY!!!!
Her. Husband.
The Police dive team found this lady right sway. So why couldn't they find Nicola Bulley? 🏴🥃
The police dive team did not find her it was Peter Faulding who is a private company who found her.
Armchair Detectives with their magnifying glass and TH-cam channel - absolutely hilarious 😂
Ya but it seems the police in the UK keep making a mess of their investigations.
Yet do you think the police conducted a professional competent investigation?
So we shouldn't challenge civil servants when they make no sense. Ok
Sounds like some Armchair Detectives are taking a strop! What would Doctor Watson say?!
@@GavinScrimgeour there's nothing more dangerous than people who know nothing being led to believe that their opinion is worthwhile. It seems that TikTok in particular has made people believe that their idiotic theories are deserving of attention, despite the fact that *actual* experts on drowning and with decades of knowledge on forensics have determined that she likely fell in and drowned. But no, that's not enough. To them, there's clearly foul play. Those experts aren't even 'the police', so the poor handling of the case isn't their doing and doesn't reflect their abilities.
The stupid thing is that even a few minutes of online research will tell you that people drown in under 3 feet of water very frequently. She could have had a fit, a stroke or a panic attack. The actual mechanism behind drowning in an area like she did is completely feasible and the only story that the armchair detectives had was the phone on the bench and the dog not 'jumping in after her' - their logical extension from this is foul play to the point where they're happy to also believe that the dog didn't attack this assailant, which is another thing that a dog would generally do. It's like they only want to believe what they want to believe and aren't interested in the facts being more mundane.
The same sick and twisted ghouls were blaming her partner with zero evidence, blaming her friend with zero evidence and hypothesising that her body was put back in the water. The level of dumbf**kery is beyond comprehension.
False
6:00 Describing himself more like
I could never understand how she entered the water if it was an accident. However I just read a couple of days ago that she had attended outpatients with a head injury. It hasn't been disclosed what caused it but she complained of feeling dizzy and nauseous. The CT scans came back clear but I'm wondering if she had a dizzy turn near the river and fell in. A long shot yes, but plausible.
She accidentally slipped in,panicked and succumbed to the river, let her rest in peace!
Mark Williams-Thomas, an investigative journalist? Lol ok talktv 😂😂😂 hes a disgraced ex policeman grifter sacked from the force for attempted blackmail.
Was her husband able to pay off the police?
Wedhing some points might be not valid. More jobs lord knows. Media has its place, so law, social thought and because the absolute in other cases, as some try not changing , its not the biggest problem imo. It can be a sore spot, however, all i know want the full truth for results ..it does say not all investigative assert is agreed on. Why? Are there that many concerted efforts or because therws a divide in truth wholly? .
Mark Williams Thomas is linked to Nicola bulleys family with swift incorporates ltd 😊
I suggest your journalists read the report properly instead of picking out misleading phrases and inferring they are the whole. In the report, police are praised for conducting a very good police investigation. They are criticised for not managing the communications better. The clown Peter Falding is rightly criticised for his all round unprofessional behaviour and exploitation of the family. To the point of making national recommendations so such an opportunist can never do that again. His recent 'recollection ' of finding a body has been made as a distraction to the shameful behaviour outlined in the report. Talk TV must be either naive or stupid, or they haven't actually read the report.
"Talk TV must be either naive or stupid, or they haven't actually read the report."
I am going with all three!
They failed...yet they were right she fell into the river and died. I fail to see how that's a failure. Had they said that but she'd been murder, absolutely they failed, but that didn't happen.
The media also had the info on menapause and alcohol abuse, they were going to run the story, the police gt ahead of that, had they not they'd have been deemed wrong then.
Lastly had she been struggling with chronic pain and mot menapause then turned to drimk no one would have given a damn. People go mising all the time and their persomal information is released, ffs what exactly where the police supposed to do? And this "expert" talking on here, he said she wasn't in the river, so why on earth is he being listened too on this? He was wrong the police were right.
No proof of " FACTUAL RIGHT " WALLY
Absolutely no proof she fell into the river. No foot prints or marks on the river bank. She would have only slipped into a couple of feet of water, to drown she would need to be much further out. Why did divers not find her? How did she get over the weir. Its not possible. This is why so many people didnt believe the police.
Accidental was pure theory backed up by zero evidence ... and that's not a matter of opinion - that's a pure fact.
Her spouse Paul said he knew 100 percent she wasn't in the river. So he knew where she was initially.
No one saw what happened so no one can say if it were an accident or not. There was a man pushing women in rivers. One survived. He was a tall man in black.
People do get pushed in rivers . If it was an accident her phone and harness would have gone in too.
@@courtneysquill8843 proof?