AUTO UPDATE!!!!!! That solves a major issue I was having! I was shooting an outdoor concert and as dusk and night came I would tweak my settings but everytime I swapped lenses it went back to how I originally had that mode setup. I had to keep manually resaving the C mode as I went. Was very annoying.
Thanks. This is a very clear explanation of the Canon custom modes - especially the auto-update feature. The design is, shall we say, surprising! Or perhaps not yet very good. If I select a custom mode, I want things to be in a known condition from when I defined the mode. When I make changes during shooting, I do not want to change the base mode settings, but change the current behaviour. And no-one wants it to revert to the base mode settings if the camera does an auto power-off or is turned off (e.g. to change a lens). The right design would be to have an explicit load/save for the custom mode settings and allow for normal modifications as one shoots (which have to persist across power-offs). It is like a word processor - open a document, save a document, and auto-save while editing. We've been doing that for a very long time, Canon should fix their design.
I'll have to give auto update a try. I knew about this feature but was always afraid I would mess up my settings but I think I'm over thinking it. One feature I REALLY wish Canon would add is the ability to name the modes after you set them up. Sometimes it can be difficult to remember what you set up a custom mode for. A friend of mine even went as far as to put some labels on the back of his camera behind the screen... The ability to type out a name or label for each custom mode seems obvious to me. Bonus points if Canon gave you an info menu of what settings are set in a given custom mode.
Great video. I have been using the Fuji system for years, but in June I purchased the R5 from B&H. I several issues understanding the focus tracking (not eye, that worked great) and could not get answers from Canon and B&H tech video support (they weren't doing in person yet) was hard to do. I also had the same issue that David Putzier commented on. I shot a dance recital using C1 that I had setup for the event, and as the lighting changed (ISO) or the dynamics of the dance (shutter speed) I changed those settings. Then as I waited the next act I turned off the R5 to save battery, and then when I turned it on it went back to the C1 settings. Drove me crazy. I was shooting with the Fuji XT3 using it's custom mode and didn't have the problem. I was just beyond my comprehension why the camera would reset, and I was in manual mode. So I returned the R5 (with kit lens) to B&H (who gave me a full refund) after two weeks. But as I did more research and got more comfortable with the issues I had, I purchased the R5 kit mid September. I've been doing well with it, but still have to figure out how to control focus tracking (the dancing blue grid) to focus where I want. I'm going to check if you did a video about that. I have no problem with the eye detect and have back button setup to do eye tracking on AE lock and spot on *, and that has worked great. I recently used that very successfully to photography hummingbirds and at the Bronx Zoo, young baboons. (Instagram @frantvisuals). You don't address this either in your video, but with Fuji you can move the custom to C1 (there are 7 on Fuji) and the camera sets to your saved settings, but then as you make changes, they stick as you turn off the camera (or it goes to sleep). If you want to get back to your base C1, you just press C1 (on their touch screen) again and it resets. So the theory is you have a way to get to a set base custom setting then as you shoot you can makes changes that hold even when powered off. Canon customer support couldn't explain it, and on a B&H video tech call they had an R5 and duplicated what I did but didn't have my issue. Finally, with us both going through the settings together we found the "auto update" was set enabled on B&H's R5 but not on mine. Your video is the first that I found that explained this - and I searched a lot. So thank you. And watching your video I came up with a work around to get to how the Fuji does it. I now realize that if I only use C2 and C3 as custom modes, I can then copy either of those to C1 and enable auto update. When I want to get back to my base custom settings, I can copy either C2 or C3 to C1. I just have to be careful to not be in C2 or C3 so they stay as I originally wanted them. When I finally got a person at Canon who had knowledge of what I was talking about, they said that I could save the configuration to my memory card and recall that to restore the custom modes. But that is a stupid way to do it since once you format the card, your configuration is wiped out. Obviously, you can copy the configuration file to a laptop or computer, but that isn't really practical, IMHO.
Hi, thanks for watching, and I'm glad you found the video useful. You're right, on Canon's cameras there's no way to restore a custom setting without doing your workaround of saving the setting to one of the other C modes, then over writing the C mode you use with the settings from the unaltered one. And quite honestly, I don't think Canon's recommendation of saving the config to your card is a good one either, as that saves all the camera settings and would overwrite all the settings you've changed in all the modes when you restore the config. Saving settings to a card, at least as far as I can tell, is really only good for either backing up your config before sending the camera in for service, or syncing your config to multiple identical cameras. And quite honestly, what Fuji's cameras do would be a really handy feature. Since you're in the US, you can submit feedback to Canon USA through the feedback link in the top left corner of the site (at least when it's not broken). I don't know if it will ultimately make any difference to Canon Japan's decisions going forward, but I'd encourage you to submit this as a product improvement you'd like to see. I'd definitely support having that capability, in fact, I may send that as feedback too.
@@PointsInFocus @cessna6535 - Thanks! This is a truly horrible work-around, but it is a work-around. I'll also try load/save settings (which may not have been possible when this original comment was made) to the card.
10:51 Thank you for the very helpful tips! How can I change my exposure mode so that my C1 is C1M and not C1P ( I'm using a rental camera), I'm having such a hard time finding an answer for this online
Set the camera to manual exposure mode, then go to the setup5 menu, custom shooting modes, then register settings and save the settings as C1. The initial setup of the custom user modes should be done in the normal exposure mode you want it to use. And as an aside, since it's a rental camera, when you're done you can use the reset camera entry on that same menu page to reset it to the factor defaults before you return it.
Great video, Jason. For me, the most frustrating thing about the custom shooting modes is the lack of documentation specifying what you can save and what you can't. It would be great to have the ability to configure a different set of My Menu tabs for each C mode in stills and in video. You can't. Even apart from custom shooting modes, if you make a change on some tabs in the menu, that change is propagated to both stills and video. In other tabs, the setting is independent in stills and video. The fact that users have to rely on trial and error to figure this all out is a little frustrating. So far, it appears that for the *Shoot* and *AF* menus, all settings can be saved to C1-C3, and even configuration changes made in standard modes (i.e., Av, Tv, Fv, etc) are saved independently between Stills and Movie. IOW, turning on Peaking while in a standard Stills mode will not turn it on for standard Movie modes. For *Playback* , *Network* , *Set-up* , and *Custom Functions* menus, all settings can be saved to C1-C3, but configuration changes made in standard modes (i.e., Av, Tv, Fv, etc) are propagated from Stills to Movie and vice-versa. IOW, turn Airplane mode on in any standard Stills mode and it will remain on if you switch to a standard Movie mode. As I said earlier, there can only be one set of *My Menu* tabs. You cannot modify them to be different when switching into the custom shooting modes and they remain the same for Stills and Movie. IOW, make a change to *My Menu* in one place and that change is reflected everywhere else. I have not tested every setting but I have tested every menu so this information should be accurate assuming all settings in a particular menu respond the same way.
Valuable, as always. Having trouble with one aspect of the R5 - which is the speed at which I can acquire my custom shooting mode for BIF. This was simple, and fast, with my old 7D: turn the mode dial until it stopped - because it could go no further. That was at C3, where I had my BIF settings.All the while my eyes were on the target and the camera was coming up. With the R5 I have to take my eye off the target/potential target, scale through the mode dial, and only then raise the camera. Too late, usually. Am told there is a way of getting faster access by assigning custom modes to the multi-function button but, despite many attempts, cannot achieve it. Approaching desperation on this one, if anybody can help.
I have set up C1 to Av mode, to record stills to "Rec. to multiple" & changed the function of the * button to bring up the flash menu. I have noticed that the "Rec. to multiple" selection is now selected when I go out of C1 into Av, Tv & M modes. The * button in Av mode is still the same as before. When I change "Rec. to multiple" back to "Auto switch card" in Av mode, this same change is now in C1. Surely this is an error or can't you change Menu options in Custom Shooting Mode or can you only change "Customize buttons" & "Customize dials"? I have "Auto update set." to "Disable" under the Custom shooting mode (C1-C3) menu.
There are some settings that don't get saved to the custom shooting modes, I don't have an exhaustive list, but things like your metadata and IPTC copyright info is shared across all modes on the camera. I believe that's what's going on with the Rec to multiple setting.
Is it possible to save HDR settings to a custom setting (C1-C3)? I may have done something incorrectly, but with HDR enabled, I got a message said, "Not available because of the associated function's setting: HDR Mode. Thanks for any guidance.
Unfortunately, no. HDR is one of the handful of things that can't be saved to a custom shooting mode or generally kept enabled by default (lots of stuff will cause it to turn off automatically).
Sir, your excellent and very helpful tutorials are becoming an indispensable knowledge base! Thank you... Could i please ask you something. The R5 is iso-invariant ( i learned about that in a Whistling Wings video). For this, do i need to use the DPP software from Canon, or does it hold true with any postproduction software? Thank you for considering.....
First, set your camera to manual exposure mode. Then go into custom shooting mode menu, and use register settings to save the current camera settings (including the manual exposure mode) to C1.
AUTO UPDATE!!!!!! That solves a major issue I was having! I was shooting an outdoor concert and as dusk and night came I would tweak my settings but everytime I swapped lenses it went back to how I originally had that mode setup. I had to keep manually resaving the C mode as I went. Was very annoying.
Thanks. This is a very clear explanation of the Canon custom modes - especially the auto-update feature. The design is, shall we say, surprising! Or perhaps not yet very good. If I select a custom mode, I want things to be in a known condition from when I defined the mode. When I make changes during shooting, I do not want to change the base mode settings, but change the current behaviour. And no-one wants it to revert to the base mode settings if the camera does an auto power-off or is turned off (e.g. to change a lens). The right design would be to have an explicit load/save for the custom mode settings and allow for normal modifications as one shoots (which have to persist across power-offs). It is like a word processor - open a document, save a document, and auto-save while editing. We've been doing that for a very long time, Canon should fix their design.
Excellent, easy to understand and very clear! Many thanks 👍
Agree! Very good and easy to understand.
I'll have to give auto update a try. I knew about this feature but was always afraid I would mess up my settings but I think I'm over thinking it. One feature I REALLY wish Canon would add is the ability to name the modes after you set them up. Sometimes it can be difficult to remember what you set up a custom mode for. A friend of mine even went as far as to put some labels on the back of his camera behind the screen... The ability to type out a name or label for each custom mode seems obvious to me. Bonus points if Canon gave you an info menu of what settings are set in a given custom mode.
Great video. I have been using the Fuji system for years, but in June I purchased the R5 from B&H. I several issues understanding the focus tracking (not eye, that worked great) and could not get answers from Canon and B&H tech video support (they weren't doing in person yet) was hard to do. I also had the same issue that David Putzier commented on. I shot a dance recital using C1 that I had setup for the event, and as the lighting changed (ISO) or the dynamics of the dance (shutter speed) I changed those settings. Then as I waited the next act I turned off the R5 to save battery, and then when I turned it on it went back to the C1 settings. Drove me crazy. I was shooting with the Fuji XT3 using it's custom mode and didn't have the problem. I was just beyond my comprehension why the camera would reset, and I was in manual mode. So I returned the R5 (with kit lens) to B&H (who gave me a full refund) after two weeks. But as I did more research and got more comfortable with the issues I had, I purchased the R5 kit mid September. I've been doing well with it, but still have to figure out how to control focus tracking (the dancing blue grid) to focus where I want. I'm going to check if you did a video about that. I have no problem with the eye detect and have back button setup to do eye tracking on AE lock and spot on *, and that has worked great. I recently used that very successfully to photography hummingbirds and at the Bronx Zoo, young baboons. (Instagram @frantvisuals).
You don't address this either in your video, but with Fuji you can move the custom to C1 (there are 7 on Fuji) and the camera sets to your saved settings, but then as you make changes, they stick as you turn off the camera (or it goes to sleep). If you want to get back to your base C1, you just press C1 (on their touch screen) again and it resets. So the theory is you have a way to get to a set base custom setting then as you shoot you can makes changes that hold even when powered off. Canon customer support couldn't explain it, and on a B&H video tech call they had an R5 and duplicated what I did but didn't have my issue. Finally, with us both going through the settings together we found the "auto update" was set enabled on B&H's R5 but not on mine. Your video is the first that I found that explained this - and I searched a lot. So thank you.
And watching your video I came up with a work around to get to how the Fuji does it. I now realize that if I only use C2 and C3 as custom modes, I can then copy either of those to C1 and enable auto update. When I want to get back to my base custom settings, I can copy either C2 or C3 to C1. I just have to be careful to not be in C2 or C3 so they stay as I originally wanted them. When I finally got a person at Canon who had knowledge of what I was talking about, they said that I could save the configuration to my memory card and recall that to restore the custom modes. But that is a stupid way to do it since once you format the card, your configuration is wiped out. Obviously, you can copy the configuration file to a laptop or computer, but that isn't really practical, IMHO.
Hi, thanks for watching, and I'm glad you found the video useful.
You're right, on Canon's cameras there's no way to restore a custom setting without doing your workaround of saving the setting to one of the other C modes, then over writing the C mode you use with the settings from the unaltered one.
And quite honestly, I don't think Canon's recommendation of saving the config to your card is a good one either, as that saves all the camera settings and would overwrite all the settings you've changed in all the modes when you restore the config. Saving settings to a card, at least as far as I can tell, is really only good for either backing up your config before sending the camera in for service, or syncing your config to multiple identical cameras.
And quite honestly, what Fuji's cameras do would be a really handy feature. Since you're in the US, you can submit feedback to Canon USA through the feedback link in the top left corner of the site (at least when it's not broken). I don't know if it will ultimately make any difference to Canon Japan's decisions going forward, but I'd encourage you to submit this as a product improvement you'd like to see. I'd definitely support having that capability, in fact, I may send that as feedback too.
@@PointsInFocus @cessna6535 - Thanks! This is a truly horrible work-around, but it is a work-around. I'll also try load/save settings (which may not have been possible when this original comment was made) to the card.
10:51 Thank you for the very helpful tips! How can I change my exposure mode so that my C1 is C1M and not C1P ( I'm using a rental camera), I'm having such a hard time finding an answer for this online
Set the camera to manual exposure mode, then go to the setup5 menu, custom shooting modes, then register settings and save the settings as C1.
The initial setup of the custom user modes should be done in the normal exposure mode you want it to use.
And as an aside, since it's a rental camera, when you're done you can use the reset camera entry on that same menu page to reset it to the factor defaults before you return it.
Great video, Jason. For me, the most frustrating thing about the custom shooting modes is the lack of documentation specifying what you can save and what you can't. It would be great to have the ability to configure a different set of My Menu tabs for each C mode in stills and in video. You can't. Even apart from custom shooting modes, if you make a change on some tabs in the menu, that change is propagated to both stills and video. In other tabs, the setting is independent in stills and video. The fact that users have to rely on trial and error to figure this all out is a little frustrating.
So far, it appears that for the *Shoot* and *AF* menus, all settings can be saved to C1-C3, and even configuration changes made in standard modes (i.e., Av, Tv, Fv, etc) are saved independently between Stills and Movie. IOW, turning on Peaking while in a standard Stills mode will not turn it on for standard Movie modes.
For *Playback* , *Network* , *Set-up* , and *Custom Functions* menus, all settings can be saved to C1-C3, but configuration changes made in standard modes (i.e., Av, Tv, Fv, etc) are propagated from Stills to Movie and vice-versa. IOW, turn Airplane mode on in any standard Stills mode and it will remain on if you switch to a standard Movie mode.
As I said earlier, there can only be one set of *My Menu* tabs. You cannot modify them to be different when switching into the custom shooting modes and they remain the same for Stills and Movie. IOW, make a change to *My Menu* in one place and that change is reflected everywhere else.
I have not tested every setting but I have tested every menu so this information should be accurate assuming all settings in a particular menu respond the same way.
LIke your videos, but wish you showed more of the hands-on with the camera and not a long boring talking head video. Just a suggestion.
Valuable, as always. Having trouble with one aspect of the R5 - which is the speed at which I can acquire my custom shooting mode for BIF. This was simple, and fast, with my old 7D: turn the mode dial until it stopped - because it could go no further. That was at C3, where I had my BIF settings.All the while my eyes were on the target and the camera was coming up. With the R5 I have to take my eye off the target/potential target, scale through the mode dial, and only then raise the camera. Too late, usually. Am told there is a way of getting faster access by assigning custom modes to the multi-function button but, despite many attempts, cannot achieve it. Approaching desperation on this one, if anybody can help.
I have set up C1 to Av mode, to record stills to "Rec. to multiple" & changed the function of the * button to bring up the flash menu. I have noticed that the "Rec. to multiple" selection is now selected when I go out of C1 into Av, Tv & M modes. The * button in Av mode is still the same as before. When I change "Rec. to multiple" back to "Auto switch card" in Av mode, this same change is now in C1. Surely this is an error or can't you change Menu options in Custom Shooting Mode or can you only change "Customize buttons" & "Customize dials"? I have "Auto update set." to "Disable" under the Custom shooting mode (C1-C3) menu.
There are some settings that don't get saved to the custom shooting modes, I don't have an exhaustive list, but things like your metadata and IPTC copyright info is shared across all modes on the camera. I believe that's what's going on with the Rec to multiple setting.
@@PointsInFocus I did some further testing with other menu options & that is the conclusion I came up with as well. Cheers
Is it possible to save HDR settings to a custom setting (C1-C3)? I may have done something incorrectly, but with HDR enabled, I got a message said, "Not available because of the associated function's setting: HDR Mode. Thanks for any guidance.
Unfortunately, no. HDR is one of the handful of things that can't be saved to a custom shooting mode or generally kept enabled by default (lots of stuff will cause it to turn off automatically).
@@PointsInFocus Thank you for taking the time to verify that for me. I really appreciate it.
Sir, your excellent and very helpful tutorials are becoming an indispensable knowledge base! Thank you...
Could i please ask you something.
The R5 is iso-invariant ( i learned about that in a Whistling Wings video).
For this, do i need to use the DPP software from Canon, or does it hold true with any postproduction software?
Thank you for considering.....
You can use any software you want.
Very helpful,thank you
Is there any way to add more than three custom modes?
Unfortunately, no.
How to change from c1P to c1M ?
First, set your camera to manual exposure mode. Then go into custom shooting mode menu, and use register settings to save the current camera settings (including the manual exposure mode) to C1.
Thanks again.
Thanks much
Thanks
your videos are extremely difficult to follow. Lots of talking... not much showing.
Das Video ist viel zu lang und immer die hundert Beispiele. Komm doch mal auf den Punkt!